You guys know that I’m actually a really squeamish person when it comes to medical issues and anything involving major surgery and the like? It’s true. I once threw up upon viewing one of those “scared celibate” sex-ed photos of an untreated STD. So I say this with an abundance of caution: do not view the photos at this TMZ link while you’re eating. If you’re squeamish, just don’t look. I’ll describe the photo: Johnny Depp sliced off the top of his finger while drunk and high on ecstasy last year. The photo is of Depp’s finger with the top sliced off. I wish I could un-see it. But here we are. This is what happened:
Johnny Depp accidentally cut off his fingertip in a fit of rage … then dipped the stump in dark blue paint and wrote on the wall in paint and blood the name “Billy Bob” — the actor with whom Johnny accused Amber Heard of cheating — this according to Amber and her people. TMZ has obtained this gruesome photo of Johnny’s butchered finger… It’s an exhibit in her domestic violence case against Johnny.
We’re told the incident went down in March of last year, just a month after Amber and Johnny married. They were in a villa in Australia when a fierce argument erupted. According to Amber’s version of events Johnny, who was drunk and high on ecstasy, smashed several bottles and windows and also slammed a plastic phone against the wall unit. She claims a piece of one of the items cut off a portion of his forefinger.
Amber’s version goes on … she’s a painter and had dark blue paint in the room. She claims Johnny dipped what remained of his forefinger in the paint and then used the gnarly digit to write various words on the wall, including “Billy Bob” and “Easy Amber.” Amber had done a movie with Billy Bob Thornton and she claims Johnny accused the 2 of sleeping together — something she strongly denied, adding he accused her of infidelity with other men as well.
Amber’s people say Johnny didn’t get medical help for nearly 24 hours, so doctors could not reattach the fingertip … they used a flap from his hand to sew on a new tip.
For those of you eagle-eyed gossip hounds, I had the same thought as all of you: was this the mysterious hand injury Depp suffered last year? Back in March of 2015, we were told that Depp “suffered an injury while on location for Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales in Australia” but that the injury was not sustained during filming. Is this the injury? I wonder how Disney feels about suspending production on Pirates because Depp wanted to get drunk, do ecstasy and smash open his hand? As for the claims that he dipped his finger in paint and wrote that stuff, yes, I believe it. TMZ has photos of that too.
Johnny Depp — Cuts Off Fingertip in Fit of Rage … Amber Claims (PHOTOS) https://t.co/oDBjSJFhhP
— TMZ (@TMZ) August 15, 2016
Photos courtesy of Fame/Flynet.
Not that all people who use drugs are abusive, but this further solidifies Amber Heard’s claims that he is a strung out mess with issues.
He has clearly formed a wall of enablers around him. If he had even one true friend, he would be in rehab. How much longer until he’s found dead in a hotel?
I’m an estate attorney, so I speak very pragmatically about death. It freaks my husband out. The other day he made a comment about something I said being like that game where you pick the celebrities who will die in the coming year. No kidding, his example was – Like Johnny Depp will die from a drug overdose.
I do think Hollywood is full of enablers and yes-people–and that the more famous you are, the worse it is, but having had a friend with drug and mental health issues (not as rageful as Depp), it is harder than people think to get an unwilling adult to get help, especially if they have resources. With my friend, many of us tried to help him, calling mental health professionals, family, hospitals, but our hands were tied.
In this case, the studio should intervene. He’s going to be like RDJ was in the day– uninsurable by a major studio.
@Megan This!
Then again in his mind he probably thinks that will solidify his status as a myth and a martyr.
Saint Depp
This pretty much nixes Vanessa Paradis’ claims that he was never an abusive person.
Normal people don’t cut off their finger tips and paint accusations with them. This is one step away from padded cell fecal finger painting.
My guess is that he got increasingly crazy in their last years together. We’ve always suspected Vanessa was relieved to be rid of him, but I suspect that his abusive, controlling behavior didn’t really emerge until Amber. He didn’t view Vanessa as a possession and a play thing, which I think was exactly how he viewed Amber.
He didn’t “cut” it off, though, if you read the full story. Apparently, a piece of smashed phone cut it off. Now, painting is weird. But I wonder if that’s what we were seeing in a video yesterday?
But if a piece of one of the items he smashed (bottles, windows, or a phone — the article doesn’t say which item was the slicing instrument) cut his finger, then he cut his finger. Thus the headline: “Johnny Depp Cuts Off Fingertip in Fit of Rage.” If his actions led to him having a cut finger, then he cut his finger. No one said he deliberately sliced off the tip of his finger.
If anyone thought Amber leaked the video…I’d say this makes it pretty clear that there is a courthouse leak.
I 100% agree. Why is it only her submitted evidence that is leaking? Why not his against her? Especially that “scandalous picture” of their bed?
Yeah it goes to show just how dirty TMZ is even if they are more pro Depp they really are only interested in the seedy dirt they can get out of court details.
TMZ were the ones who leaked police photographs of Rihanna after Chris Brown beat her…..there is NO depth to which they will not sink, to get news.
Also, if she is trying to settle, publishing this info doesn’t help her, it shows lack of goodwill, like she is trying to pressure his side. I would guess that the ones leaking it don’t care, they just want drama and be paid for it. TMZ always appreciate that.
TMZ doesn’t need a “leak” if something is filed into evidence in court. The proceedings aren’t sealed, so they can get copies of anything they want themselves. You could park yourself at the courthouse and get all these documents on your own too. It’s just that TMZ (barely) pays people to do just that.
–TheRealPinky
I agree most info that get is actually public info.They also have paid sources at the courthouse,police dept ,hospitals,coroner,etc.That’s how they are first to report marriages,divorces,hospitalization,deaths,etc.
@PInky, but if this is all public info (we had access to a list of witnesses and the number of videos, etc.) why is just TMZ reporting it and why is Amber trying to take it off the internet? It’s one thing to know that a video exists and another thing to have the video in your power. One thing ais a written report, another is a file with a video..
During a case for Stevie Wonder years ago they found a bug (tiny microphone) on the judge’s desk. It was transmitting to an office owned by TMZ. They absolutely have plants at the LA courthouse, both human and technological.
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That’s scary.
How does TMZ get away with it? Would sue them for all of their worth of it.
Harvey is a lawyer. Imagine he has lots of connections in legal profession in LA.
TMZ has leaked supposedly private court info many times before thanks to people that work there trying to cash in. None of JD’s evidence is being leaked, of course, only Amber’s. How very interesting…Some employee is leaking things to TMZ for Depp so all Amber’s key evidence can be rendered inadmissible in court. Why on earth would she be giving information to the people trashing her for him since day 1? And affect her settlement like so many claim she’s after? I think the handlers have lost control of the master; Johnny just wants Amber to be declared a evil manipulative liar and have no case so bad, even stuff that makes himself look unstable and crazy, he wants put out in the hope that everyone’s focus will be: “OMG see how she’s been filming and setting him up since the beginning?!!” Rather than realizing what a raging, all consumed, addict Johnny Depp must be to get so high that he essentially amputated his finger and felt nothing. Or I could be totally wrong and TMZ will just leak anything for cash no matter who’s side their supposed to be on. Like a backwards Switzerland…
Yes to all of this! It’s exactly what I’ve been trying to say.
I keep hearing people say that the evidence will be inadmissible in court if it’s leaked to the media, but is that really the case? I mean, videos of crimes are shown on the news regularly, and I don’t think that prevents the videos from being used in court as evidence. Maybe official crime scene investigation evidence, like fingerprints or photos taken by investigators is not permitted in court if it’s been leaked to the media. But I don’t think that would apply to personal pics and videos that Amber took.
Regardless, I do agree that it’s very sleazy for people to be selling confidential court info to the media. (If that is what’s happening)
” Or I could be totally wrong and TMZ will just leak anything for cash no matter who’s side their supposed to be on.”
They do pay for stories/photos/videos, no matter the source. They’re currently being sued by Jared Leto for buying a video (the one where he dissed Taylor Swift) that they may not have had the right to buy. Once Leto sued TMZ, TMZ turned around and sued their source. Nice guys (not). They don’t care about legality as long as they get their scoop. Especially pathetic considering how often Harvey Levin brags about being a lawyer.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/tmz-contends-jared-leto-doesnt-910544
Interesting coincidence: Leto & Depp share the same PR– Robin Baum at Slate.
You are correct, Goldie. It would not be inadmissible simply because it’s now public knowledge.
Thanks for clarifying Rachel.
Excellent point. You’re exactly right.
That’s a valid point, but it also highlights how she may come out of it with an advantage and rightly so. Any of his partners would need danger money to live with him. It also explains his huge financially settlement with Paradis. There is only so much that the studios can do to salvage Depp. He hasn’t produced the financial goods. His last few films have flopped significantly (and deservedly, as he is an overacting ham of a thespian) and he is more a liability than anything else.
No wonder the last Pirates film was delayed – now we know it was due to Depp’s drug use. I’d call it recreational, but it ceases to be recreational when you delay film sets for months at a time.
Remember the story that went out at the time of filming? That he injured his hand on the film set – presumably while working? Now we know the truth. I imagine that his co-stars have become fed up with him as well and no insurance company will touch him anymore, so his career may be done.
IIRC, the studio was very careful to point out that he injured his hand on location but not while working. On location simply means not at home, so yeah, the studio was sending a clear message even back then that they were not going to cover for him. And the stories more recently that he’s been liquidating assets including fine art – if he isn’t aware, at least his financial advisors are that he will need to pony up some more cash soon.
Wow. Just wow.
Will someone force this drunk nutcase woman-beater on rehab already before he hurts someone else. Shame on Vanessa Paradis for willing to back him up.
I can give VP a break because I believe she’s trying to protect her children from the reality of who their father is and I’m positive she harbors resentment towards Amber for carrying on an affair with Johnny.
That resentment would be place on Johnny not Amber who she was In a relationship with and who also trashed her in the media when they split.
Yeah, no. There’s no way to protect them from This reality. But they must be protected from This psychopath-level stuff and enabling it is the opposite of what she should do to protect her kids.
It doesn’t matter if Vanessa is lying or not. Even if she’s telling the truth and Johnny never harmed her, he could still have abused Amber. You don’t have to have abused one person to have abused another.
I don’t think he was abusing substances (including booze) that much when he was with Paradis. I think she managed him, and Amber wasn’t playing that role (he didn’t want her to – he had Paradis in it already) so was happy to party with him because she had no clue what she was taking on till too late.
I say that because if you look at the image of him and Heard in the story about Angelina linked below, he’s recognisably Johnny Depp of old. He has the bone structure and the skin tone and slenderness. Now, he’s a bloated raddled mess, and it was only 5 years or so ago. That’s got to be abuse. The man is too old to get away with it as he did in his 20s and 30s and Dorian Grey’s picture is come to life.
Also, shame on Paul Bethany and Benicio Del Toro. You dont use your platform to discredit the victim without a 100percent certainty of what you are alleging. And the only way to be 100 percent certain is to be with the couple every minute of every day. And dear Wino Ryder, if somebody asks you about an ongoing DV allegation, your response should always, ALWAYS be “no comment”. Thats not your opportunity to give a character reference and plug your TV show.
I would hope they regret inserting themselves and making Ambers public battle even harder but that would be assuming any of these people possess a conscience and thats not an assumption we can make anymore.
They all look stupid now don’t they? Bettany, Del Toro and Ryder want to insert themselves somewhere in this sordid mess – like an anal suppository. They are all acting ‘has-beens,’ desperate for mentions.
Naya, Winona was doing an interview specifically to promote her TV show. She was asked about the Johnny situation, and said DV was a very serious issue and she could only speak to her experience. And she didn’t throw in a “Hey, watch my TV show,” at the end. Both times that you’ve brought her up you’ve misrepresented what she said to fit this narrative that she’s the bad guy. Would it have been better if she said no comment? Yes. But she isn’t the villain here. It’s not Vanessa or Winona’s fault that Johnny Depp is a profoundly disturbed individual, and it’s just as unfair to blame them for this as it is to blame Amber.
+1 to all this.
@Shambles, I get and agree to what you’re saying, but I also agree with the point I think Naya was trying to make. These people, including Winona and Vanessa especially, don’t realize that even though they say the are speaking of their own experience, they are pretty much denouncing Amber’s claim that Johnny subjected her to years of domestic violence. That was exactly the effect it had, it was exactly what people deducted from the accounts of both women. Amber was fighting an uphill battle from the very beginning, and their comments just made it 1,000x’s worse. Johnny didn’t need their character reference; he was always going to be fine.
Now, as more information comes to light and we find out more of what Amber was subjected to in chilling detail, the worse these people come off. They did not live in that home with them at all times, they didn’t know what happened between closed doors between those two, and they never should have opened their mouths to begin with. They, indeed, make things so much more difficult for Amber by doing so. Johnny was the perpetrator of the domestic violence, but being in a position of power and coming forward to defend him when they knew NOTHING about the lives of these two, they pretty much victimized her all over again in the court of public opinion.
“She turned out to be manipulative…” “DV is serious but that was not my experience with him and I find it hard to believe…” “That is not the man I spent 14 wonderful years…” “He said she was blackmailing him…” “I’ve known him for years and he would never…” Where did that leave Amber? They all advocated for Johnny not to be judged in the court of public opinion, but they didn’t extend the same courtesy to Amber, the actual victim in this situation.
If she’d said no comment everyone would have taken that to mean he did abuse her and she doesn’t want to talk about it, and there’s many reasons why someone wouldn’t want that, not least that it’s offensive to people who have been abused. People were pulling up old interviews and pictures and claiming they showed signs of abuse and that there was no doubt Ryder was a victim. There’s nothing wrong with her wanting to shut that down.
Abusers abusing some people and not others is standard. There’s nothing at all inconsistent about one ex having lovely memories and another having nightmarish memories. People shouldn’t have to play coy and act like maybe they were abused when they weren’t just because some other people are too thick to understand abusers behaviour varies wildly depending on dozens of factors.
@Kate, then the more responsible answer would have been similar to what Winona said, that DV is very serious, and it wasn’t their experience, but that just because it doesn’t happen in one relationship doesn’t mean it can’t happen or have happened in another. Or in fact, they could have easily said, “It isn’t my relationship, and it’s not my place to comment.” They’ve been in the public eye long enough to know how media is always looking to twist things to whatever narrative they are looking for.
And that’s just as it relates to Vanessa and Winona. The other morons that tried mansplaining the situation just have no excuse. None. Nobody was asking them, and they never should have spoken about it. They could have just been like, “I’ve known Johnny for a long time and I hope they can resolve this issue privately.” Period; end of story.
Agree that I really don’t think Winona deserves to be lumped in with the Johnny apologists. She was very careful to say that her experience with Johnny was good, but it was also a long time ago and she doesn’t know what could have been going on recently.
He makes Mel Gibson look like a kindergartener.
Yep. Made me queasy and a little weak in the knees. Please get to rehab for the sake of yourself and your children, Johnny. God, this is an awful story.
In this state, his children are not a priority. He’s probably blown them off 50 times in the past 2 years. I’m sure his behaviour has confused and even scared them when he is around them.
Sadly, I know you’re right.
Wow Charlie is clearly one disturbed individual. He’s giving me major Charlie Sheen vibes. I remember people didn’t take Denise Richards claims against him seriously either.
I hope he gets help, but sadly, I don’t think he will. In a way, I think he enjoys playing the role of the “tortured artist”.
This! Charlie’s disgusting and TMZ is treating Johnny the same way they do/did Charlie – like he’s some sort of super cool guy who might be their BFF if they write flattering articles about him.
I think any marriage breaking up is sad, so I was sad for them when she filed for divorce. Then she filed for the RO and I really felt for her and was sad for her for having to endure that throughout their relationship, and appalled by Johnny.
Now I think he is definitely one SICK MF. To be that drunk and high to not only basically slice off your WHOLE fingertip except for the nail (it is THAT gruesome), but to also dip it in paint and then paint a message on a mirror.
And then I realize how freaking scary for her. Someone that high and drunk, doing that, is capable of seriously hurting you. They are demented in that moment. I really think he was paranoid. Super, super paranoid and nothing he was alleging was true.
Yes, that would be really scary to see someone act that immune to pain who is also directing their rage at you. Terrifying.
This. So much this.
I felt for Amber before, but now I’m so fully in her corner. She must have been terrified by his behavior. I’m glad that these videos are being made public, it gives her a certain amount of safety. If anything happens to Amber everyone will know who to look at.
“I’m glad that these videos are being made public, it gives her a certain amount of safety. If anything happens to Amber everyone will know who to look at.”
THIS!!!!
You know what else? It makes me think that it is possible that at some point HE could have blackmailed HER, telling her that nobody would believe her and that he would ruin her name and career if she ever spoke up. I’m just in utter shock to realize what this girl has been going through.
@Silliness
Oh I’m sure that he said that too her! He is a powerful and incredibly wealthy man with major drug/alcohol/mental issues, I’m sure he threw his weight around to intimidate & control her.
Also, I think her friendship/relationship with Elon Musk is also a good safety idea. He’s one of the very few people with more money than Depp. I’m sure that Musk’s security is probably pretty good.
@Melly, that makes so much sense now that I think about it. When the news came out, I know we were all finding it too soon for her to move from one relationship to the next, with another man that has been described as controlling by his first wife (although his second wife now twice divorced from him adores him and wouldn’t rule out marrying him again according to a recent E! News article). I know they’ve been friends for a long time because they are both involved in the Art of Elysium charity, which Amber has been a part of since the very beginning. Now thinking about it in this perspective, I do hope he is able to help her in some way.
Lily is getting death threats over this. Check out her. IG. Some comments are already deleted, but they keep popping up. Vanessa just posted sweet pic of her and Depp on IG.
@Silliness
I think we cracked the case!
The moment I found out she was in a possible maybe relationship with Elon, I immediately thought that she was doing so for safety. All these videos of Depp just seem to confirm my suspicion. She’s worried that he’s going to kill her or hurt her – or have someone else do it.
My bet is Depp is going to stop at nothing to destroy her career. We all need to support Amber’s next project! It’ll drive Depp crazy and maybe he’ll implode.
@Melly, I plan to support every project she’s in from now on. She is going to need the support because I am sure he’s going to really try to crush her career.
@Silliness
I’m with ya! I’ll be supporting whatever she’s in. I never go to the movies, I’d rather wait and watch it at home, but for Amber I’ll make an exception.
He is dangerous, there is really no other way of saying it and I think he still will drag this out for as long as possible just to hurt her further in the publics opinion and continue to try to control her. All these people defending him in comments on other sites are just reinforcing his sense of victim hood.
ITA – and he is clearly prepared to tarnish his own image in his obsession to control her and the narrative surrounding her during the proceedings. These leaks only prove her claims and damage his image. But given his issues with control and jealousy it kinda makes sense that he maybe behind these leaks plus the evidence is likely going to non admissible in court if it goes to trial. She clearly wants to settle but am not sure he does. He’s hell bent on revenge and given the way the Vanessa was trashed in the press after she dared end it with him, its history repeating itself.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Disney shelve the next Pirates movie for a few years plus don’t they have morality clauses in all their contracts? They will have no choice but to drop him.
Why do people keep saying it would be inadmissible? Are you confusing the finger photos for the kitchen trashing video? The kitchen trashing video would be inadmissible due to how it was obtained. A description of the incident and any auditory witnesses would be admissible unless the judge excludes it. A description of the finger tip incident and the photos are admissible, the leak doesnt affect that.
@Naya, I don’t know about elsewhere, but here in California, as far as I know, if it’s discovered that you leak evidence about your case to the media, that piece of evidence can be thrown out if his lawyers were to request it. For that reason I don’t think it was her team that leaked it. However, I otherwise agree with you.
I didn’t really think I could be shocked by anything in this case but this is just so awful what a pathetic and disturbed man. Shame on all the people in the industry and his entourage that enable him.
yep. i’ve seen people on drugs do some sick s**t but this is something else. dipping a bloody stump in paint and writing on the wall with it? i wasn’t shocked or surprised about the video, but i am now. holy crap, imagine living with that. imagine all his people telling amber to make him better, change his bandage… i feel sick now.
That’s an interesting looking injury— definitely not caused by something especially sharp. I’d be curious to know what did that. (I’m in nursing school, and I love gruesome stuff. I know.)
That doesn’t even look like a real finger. Whose finger is hollow in the center? Not mine.
Just your heart?
@iheartjacksparrow
That totally wasn’t even him in the video yesterday either. It heard was a body double Amber personally taught by skype and carrier pigeon for six weeks to just sound like Johnny!
Your comment is not surprising. Sadly you could have witness the abuse right in front of you and you would still make exuses for Johnny behavior.
@Cinder – LOL. Troll Level: Jedi Master. That was awesome. 😀
That was obviously a hologram of Depp in the video,people are so gullible.
Just to clarify: is that a throwaway comment, or are you genuinely trying to claim these photos aren’t legit? Because no denials are coming from his camp, are they? And they confirmed the film by saying it was edited, she provoked him, blah blah blah, too.
I think you need to face it. He is not a pleasant man.
OK Doogie Howser.
I think its just the way the light is directed in the photo? Not sure, but the alternate is that whatever created the injury actually ripped out a chunk of flesh from the interior as the tip pulled away during the injury event. It’s gross, yes— but completely fascinating.
It looks torn, not cut, I agree.
Or maybe it was cut, but he did additional damage to it, giving it that ragged, torn appearance. Quite gruesome.
He absolutely damaged it further – first by using it as a fricking paintbrush (WTF?!) and then by not seeking medical attention for 24 hours. He’s lucky he didn’t end up with a massive systemic infection.
What an idiot.
Alcohol, drugs, a celebrity ego surrounded by yes men, and a society that sees women as things = this situation. I hope she gets a good settlement and donates to women’s shelters and organisations. I hope he goes to rehab and has intense therapy, but he’ll probably just retire to his island and truly become the Hunter S Thompson clone he has always wanted to be, never feeling guilt, never thinking he’s done wrong.
Thompson committed suicide though. I have a feeling JD would either have a massive heart attack or stroke from trying to achieve the “ultimate high” by doing too many different drugs at once or taking huge amounts of them. Or his liver would just finally give out from so many decades of drinking.
We thought thats how Hunter would go too. In the end, he wrote a suicide note to himself (not kidding) and then shot himself with his grandson in the next room. Selfish to the very end. And Johnny thinks the man was a god….
That’s about the size of it.
While the rest of us sit here in despair at the vast numbers of fellow human beings who think abuse starts and ends with a punch – and then only if they see it and the woman meets their exacting standards of worthiness.
Hear….hear!
I’m reading comments from women basically saying that breaking stuff around them and being aggressive in not abuse as long as their partners are not hitting them and I wonder how many have dealt with stuff like this and accepted certain behaviours with this mindset. It’s quite shocking. We had these kind of comments when talking about him breaking hotel rooms, but seeing this video and assume that even if not normal is sort of ok really disturbs me. And hearing her voice shaking, I mean… This is really heartbreaking on many different levels.
Sixer you nailed it.
Amber & Billy Bob share the same manager Geyer Kosinski. Depp is probably delusional and he really needs to clean up his act, if not for himself he then needs to think of his kids. He is nothing more than a toxic mess right now.
His behaviour is more to do with isolation.
She is accused of cheating when she works with men and accused of cheating when she is out with her girlfriends (women). Therefore, she is not really allowed to mix with anyone. This is bog standard isolation tactics.
In the end, she would have been scared to have any friends or take any work so that her abuser does not find a ‘reason’ to get cross and hit.
Exactly.
Exactly Brit. Classic abuse tactics. I worked with a woman who was grossly overweight and her husband was slim. She worked in an office with lots of women and two men – both physicians. Her husband would come to the office at different times of the day and if she was interacting with any of us, he accused her of having affairs with us (she was not bi-sexual) and if he saw her with one of the physicians, he accused her of cheating. She really wanted to loose weight and would join the office’s Weight Watchers group but hubby would find out and forbid her to do so. She was only able to come to work (and help support him) but beyond that she could do nothing. It got so bad with his threats to one of the doctors that they reluctantly had to let her go even tho she was a good worker. This was in the 70’s when everyone pretty much accepted this kind of behavior and nothing was done to help her. I still think of her and wondered what happened to her and pray that she eventually made it out of that relationship.
Johnny strikes me as the same kind of controller but thankfully times have changed a bit and Amber is a smarter woman. Hopefully Amber will come out of this on the other side a stronger and happier woman. She could use her fame to speak to women about abuse but I’m sure part of her settlement will include she not talk about it ever again.
Disgusting. And not only the injury but his dirty af nails as well. I hope thats some Jack Sparrow dirt and that he isnt that nasty in his personal life on top of all the other shit that he is. Poor Amber
I thought the same thing — that was a seriously disgusting hand, although personal hygiene falls by the wayside with addicts.
I have never paid much attention to Amber but I truly and sincerely hope she comes out of this with a healthy career and the next time she dates someone – it’s someone clean and sober and good. She is taking such a brutal hit in the media but I hope she never backs down from her truth.
Drunk and High on Ecstasy? I call shenanigans on that. Alcohol and E do not mix and moreover ecstasy does not make you aggressive. In fact, given ecstasy’s effect on the brain, this makes no sense whatsoever.
Drugs and alcohol should never be mixed, and you’d be surprised what people with a high tolerance can get away with ingesting and not freaking killing themselves instantly.
Yah, but ecstasy does not make you aggressive at all, and inhibits a lot of the impact of alcohol. Also, Depp (and I’m not team either), is a known drug user/ abuser. As such I’m sure he would know that alcohol/ e is not a pleasurable combination. E is also non-addictive so….
Also, I would expect that if this is a truthful report, Alcahol + cocaine would be more likely to replicate this incident.
Finally, while you can kill yourself through drinking too much, taking too much ecstasy too often only leads to less effective use. You have to have available serotonin in the body for it to release it.
Basically, I would call into question much of the veracity of this report. Nor is there any blood on the mirror, which you would expect if you were writing in your own blood + paint.
He dipped his finger in dark blue paint before touching the mirror. That may be masking the blood.
We also don’t know how much he drank vs how much ecstasy he took, but he appears to drink A LOT and we have now seen with our own eyes on video what he acts like when drunk.
I’m with Horsforth on this one. E does not make you violent. I’d be far more inclined to believe that Johnny did coke/meth/basically any kind of upper & combined it with alcohol to get this result. But the exact drugs he took is pretty inconsequential.
I agree with Izzy that he likely drank double than what he took in X. From the long history of statements he’s made on his addiction, I imagine it as a steak with mash potatoes on the side. The steak would represent how much alcohol takes up on his addiction, the potatoes represent all the other drugs. He’s largely an alcoholic but you can’t discount the big use of drugs he still does. He needs to be informed that mixing them together in big amounts is only going to get more and more dangerous the older he and his heart continue to get and the less and less his ageing heart and cardio. system can continue to take of these substances all at once. Especially when you think of how high his tolerance level must have become over the decades and he needs more and more to get off…
Horsforth said: “Basically, I would call into question much of the veracity of this report. Nor is there any blood on the mirror, which you would expect if you were writing in your own blood + paint.”
You do realize that blood turns dark when it dries? Mixed with dark blue paint you wouldn’t exactly be seeing a color that you’re expecting from too much TV/movies.
From the way you’re attempting to sound like an authority on “E”, brain chemistry, and the drying of blood, I can only conclude that you’ve learned all this through reading and TV exclusively. Researching and reading about the brain is a wonderful use of your time, but really if you want to be taken seriously as an authority on anything, you should get out more. There’s no substitute for real life.
@ rosettastoned
I don’t think anyone was trying to be an expert on anything. Just people’s opinion about some gossip.
@rosettastoned: Seems like you’re advocating for @Horsforth to do ecstasy?
I’ve seen many people drunk and high on ecstacy at the same during my partying years. It definitely is not safe but doable. It NEVER has a good result. The combination does tend to make people extremely aggressive with way too much energy and strength. You’d be surprised. I certainly was.
same yo. i had friends who dropped a couple pills every single day for years. and after awhile your serotonin is so low it doesnt have the same effect. super aggressive? confrontational? delusions and paranoia? you bet: that was just the pregame party. wait till they had a bottle of wine!
I’ve seen someone get into a screaming match with their significant other that went physical (she was kicking him, throwing things, etc) while drunk and on E. E doesn’t necessarily mean “I love everything and everyone and let’s all hug!” although that is what usually happens on it. Everyone’s brain works differently. Saying that there is no way he was drunk and on E for this to happen because E makes you happy is like saying that everyone reacts exactly the same to the same dosage of the same drug which obviously is not true. Body chemistry, prior use, even how much you ate that day will affect things in different ways. If you have a tolerance to it and are also drinking it could cause an emotional response that goes the other way – IE hateful, aggressive, jealous, unable to control your emotions, and full of rage. Especially if he had taken it recently before that night his serotonin levels could have been depleted to the point where the ‘happiness’ factor of the drug simply wasn’t working anymore, therefore putting him in a bad mental place.
Based on what I’ve seen yes I absolutely believe that Johnny could have done this while drinking and on E. It wouldn’t surprise me if he were mixing other drugs in like coke or painkillers. If he was on a bender it would also explain how he could hurt his finger so badly and wait 24 hours for treatment. I can’t even imagine how much that injury would hurt and how much drugs you’d have to have ingested to be ok with waiting for treatment for an injury like that.
EDIT: just realized I meant to post this comment above, not in response to you @Bubbles
Thank you, Bubbles. That was also the effect the combination of the two caused as I’d seen it in those brave-stupid souls that give no F’s in life.
Another thing to keep in mind, someone that has substance abuse issues doesn’t always know or care what they’re ingesting, or often don’t admit what they really ingest. I wouldn’t doubt that she thought he took ecstasy when in reality it was something else.
Spoken like someone who has very little experience with “E” and who doesn’t understand brain chemistry as much as they’d like to think.
You know that most ecstasy is cut, right? Although it can be cut with absolutely anything, it’s often cut with a stimulant. Most frequently, that stimulant is meth.
Now, I’m sure Johnny gets the best drugs in the world (e.g.: pure, uncut Molly), but the report doesn’t say Molly, it says ecstasy. And sometimes when one is traveling, one has to compromise on one’s drugs.
And, yes, ecstasy makes a lot of people feel warm and empathetic, but only if you catch them at the right point in their roll. At JD’s age, with his drug history, and with the alcohol mixed in, he must have horrific and lengthy comedowns. Maybe the fingerpainting incident occurred after he peaked.
(People who don’t have nasty E comedowns are usually young, in good health, without a big drug history, and without a history with depression/anxiety.)
E makes most people feel happy and free and loose. Other people, it just makes them feel a lot of feelings, and if what they were feeling before taking it was rage and distrust, that’s going to be heightened on E.
I used to be big into the club scene. For every 10 people E makes feel giddy, there’s one who winds up sobbing or screaming.
@Horsforth – My sister DIED from Ecstacy, and she was not a drug user (not a habitual one, I mean). We think it was tainted – you never know what’s in that poison. It could be that he reacts differently, or he got some that wasn’t “clean” (bitter irony alert) – there are any number of scenarios. Or presumably he takes many different drugs, and Amber was just assuming that it was Ecstasy that time – or Ecstasy was part of a mix. There’s no 100% – and then you lose someone.
I find several things intriguing here: for starters, if this article is correct and he required a flap, he would have had to stay under medical supervision for several days, and sobered up completely (flaps die easily). Also, the hole In his fingertip looks like where the last bone digit should be so that’s legit. Lastly, this type of injury is extremely severe and to make it 24hrs before getting treatment just shows how inebriated he must’ve been. 🙁 poor girl.
One of the earliest reports about the injury mentions a pin being inserted – so that makes even more sense, if the last bone digit was missing.
ITA about being unbelievably inebriated to wait 24 hours before getting treatment.
FINALLY we are getting the juicy gossip. Keep it coming.
The human body is a marvelous machine. I don’t understand sqeamishness about it. That finger picture is pretty damn cool.
The comments on TMZ are so disgusting. She’s lying! Okay, she’s not lying but she totally deserved to be beat because she dared to open her mouth. Makes me sick.
Johnny, you’re king of the world and you are losing your sh$t over a B-rate hussy, albeit with good legs. I have to ask: Is that all there is Johnny?…is that all there is?
He is disgusting, he looks a raddled mess. It sounds like he’s been getting away with this sort of behaviour all his career.
I don’t think it will end well for him. He must have a liver like a vagrants old shoe.
I’m seriously surprised she’s still here, with all her abilities and body parts intact. He was/is so erratic and violent and hateful and out of control around her, the escalation is terrifying. I’m so glad she got out.
While I firmly believe Amber, I don’t understand what a pic of his fingertip proofs? It’s a known injury, and there’s no proof as to the how or why. The mirror pic shows no blood while, according the story, he dipped his bleeding finger in the paint.
I think there’s a leak, and it’s not Amber but someone playing a really dirty game.
It’s a known injury? So is it known HOW he was injured besides the fact he wasn’t injured while filming?
I think that close-up of the finger is at the hospital. That finger is clean while the others are not + there is a gloved hand in that photo. I think the docs took the picture, perhaps to aid in documenting the injury & figure out how to fix it.
I mean, c’mon. Who among us has not sliced off at least a pinky whilst high on ecstasy? This says nothing about his issues. Nothing!!
Hahaha!!
Is it the same finger that TMZ shows healed? The damaged one looks like a ring finger and the other middle finger? I’d believe he’s crazy enough but I just thought they looked like different fingers…
Also… It looks like he has a tattoo on the healed finger/hand but you can’t see it in the injury photo. Hmmmm…
You sleuths do your magic! :/
Well I am no sleuth but maybe he got another tattoo sometime AFTER the injury healed.
Or he may get tattoos to cover scars.
Bloody hell, it just gets worse and worse doesn’t it? What gets me is the timing of this event and the fact that she continued to stay in the marriage. It’s not like they were together a long time. She had ample opportunity to get out. Affair accusations and sexual jealousy and insecurity usually rear their head within the first year of a relationship. Yes, I’m aware commenters will rant at me and ask how dare I questioned her staying in the relationship, but it’s a valid question to throw out there as well. I’m sure his lawyers will ask that very question too.
This was an awful relationship combination from day one. It makes you wonder what Vanessa Paradis has been hiding. Depp has lost his mind.
I wonder how much hush money they had to pay the owner of the villa to keep everything hushed up.
Addicts have a kind of pitiful appeal to them in that you desperately want to help them, even as they drag you down. It probably doesn’t help that we live in a society that sells women a romantic narrative that tells them it’s okay to “fix” a man with your love.
Beyond that, he’s surrounded by enablers and handlers who likely downplay his behavior at every turn. It’s not easy to walk away when everyone is telling you “he didn’t mean it.”
Exactly
It does look like she was in it to win it, doesn’t it…
In it to win her life? Yes, it does appear that Amber Heard is trying to get through this alive, with her concern for her career and her reputation taking a backseat to her concern with her own survival.
Valid points. My initial attitude, when news of divorce broke out, was ‘gold digger’, but after thinking over it, he must have performed well -like narcissists do in the beginning of every relationship, and once they have you, they strike, you don’t know how on earth it went downhill and it all feels like slow motion.
I hope she gets a sh$%tload of a settlement. This fingerpainting scenario is nutjob central
To get through it alive? You have reliable info that JD was threatening to kill her or is it just your imagination?
hi annie! welcome back. good to see you reflected on your position to support a rich and violent movie-star.
alrighty. nothing to see here. dude just had a bad day at work.
It is actually well documented that he has a history of cutting and self-harming. So to make it even worse this “accident” was most likely not accidental………
I don’t understand on any level why people are concerned about who “leaked” anything??!! Who cares! What if this was your sister, mother, daughter, best friend? He’s an abusive, drunk addict.
THIS 100000000000%
The question who leaked the video/pic has nothing to do with doubting the abuse. And it DOES matter, since it looks like someone is trying to provoke and promote exactly the responses you can find on a lot of media outlets: that she set him up from the start. So it’s a legitimate question.
But….. Why does it matter if she planned it? If he wasn’t abusive, there would be nothing to record. I used to get mad and throw things when my husband and I fought. I don’t anymore. Why? Not because he doesn’t irritate me or make me mad. It’s because i decided I was acting crazy and needed to stop. But it was my fault I didn’t control my temper before that. It felt good to throw things around and have a tantrum. But I knew I was acting crazy and decided to stop. I have not gotten violent since. If you can’t control your temper, that’s your fault and you need to figure out how to manage it. It’s not somebody else’s responsibility to walk on eggshells so they don’t upset you. Adults control their temper. If you can’t, you need to get help.
you cannot provoke someone to abuse. he either will or won’t but he is the only person in control of his actions. i could slap my husband silly and he would never lay a hand on me because it’s not in his nature. you give Amber too much power by saying Johnny is such a weak man that she was able to manipulate him to follow her bidding. she is no evil genius.
if Johnny was not a rage monster abuser it would not matter what Amber did. to blame her for his actions is saying he is an infant with no control over his emotions otherwise known as a ragey abuser.
It’s a shady question. Why would it even be a question even if she DID provide any of that information? if she didn’t think it would help her case. If none of it was leaked you KNOW he’d get off. It’s gross to me that the leak defense is the angle. His attorneys and PR people are assholes in my opinion.
I just made the most BLEGH face seeing that photo, and I work in a hospital. I have seen some SHIT, but that’s pretty bad. He straight up gouged out the top half of his finger. I can 100% believe that was done under the influence because that is not easy to do.
Wow…disgusting…it cannot be unseen… I truly hope Amber gets a nice settlement. I cannot imagine living with that man.
I’m seriously starting to see why she also wanted the restraining order to extend to Pistol. I’m sure she only reluctantly handed Boo over. He is dangerous. I wouldn’t put it past him to hurt her or find someone to hurt her in some way, including those close to her. In the beginning I thought she wanted the RO to be permanent to prove a point, but no, she seriously fears for her life even after everything settles. She NEEDS this restraining order to be permanent.
I don’t want to jinx it, but I think the tables may be starting to turn. There are upvoted comments on the latest article on Daily Mail (the Daily Mail!!) in support of Amber. Still a lot calling her a manipulative gold digger, but there are some there.
You are so right, Beluga:
The tables have toppled over.
I think his family tried mightily to help him and his new wife tried to help him, but he was surrounded by users who didn’t give a damn that he was falling apart, with what I believe is a terminal brain disease. It never had to come to this.
Someone upthread said that people are posting hateful messages and threats to Lily-Rose’s instagram account. I just saw a bunch of them, mostly from one user that probably created the account to do it, since it’s set to private and only has one post to it.
That’s despicable. She’s his child, not his keeper. She is not responsible for him or his actions. The fact that she spoke up in his favor early on is understandable because for one, it’s her father, and two, she was probably not around the abuse. She lives with her mother most of the time; what is she supposed to know?
I agree some people are being assholes all Lilly said was that isn’t the man she knows witch is most likely true because he was sober with vanessa and when he started to drink again she quickly kicked him out and she doesn’t live with him full time so the only side she see is great loving daddy
Trolls go for vulnerability. It’s sick and horrible, given she’s a victim of him as well, being his child having to see all this, but they’d be going for Amber just as happily.
A young girl died of cancer in the UK a few years ago and trolls poured all over her blog page when she made the news as terminally ill, mocking her.
There need to be laws against this. It’s not about free speech when it tips over into psychological violence and I don’t think the law has caught up with the technology yet.
People certainly DO mix alcohol and ecstasy! I’ve seen it many times. Alcohol lessens the joy of rolling, so it’s rather wasteful. Plus the combo does a number on your neurochemistry. But what does JD care about either of those? He can always get more drugs/better drugs/different drugs. As for caring about his health, the man seems to have absolutely dreadful self-care, so I’m not surprised that he beats his brain up.
Disney didn’t care, they were the ones who hushed it up and gave some ‘accident on set’ story to the insurance company. If I recall there was some talk of skin grafts from Johnny’s team at the time. They hustled him out of Australia which has top class medical facilities and flew him half way around the world back to the USA for medical treatment by their own doctors. Many because they didn’t want anyone in Australia asking too many questions and testing him for drugs because the production’s insurance company could have cancelled the policy and pulled the plug on the whole movie as anything regarding major actors using illegal drugs causing production delays is specifically not covered.
If the insurers paid out for the two week delay they will probably be calling their lawyers right now as well.
I still don’t understand how she could have got the picture of his writing on the mirror when she was not even in Australia during the alleged fight. How will she explain the source?
It seems like someone from Depp’s team who cleans after him must have been collecting evidence to help Amber. Probably the same person(s) who have been leaking about their fights to the media.
And the court has imposed confidentiality so it would jeopordize either party to leak things. Either a malicious third party is there or someone from the court has been doing it.
@Naya
“public battle even harder but that would be assuming any of these people possess a conscience and thats not an assumption we can make anymore.”
No, it isn’t, not after everything that’s happened.
Lord have mercy! I just made the mistake of reading the comments at TMZ. Apparently that’s not Johnny Depp’s hand. It’s probably definitely the hand of a mechanic, not our scarfy golden boy. And apparently Amber Heard isn’t a painter because we’ve never seen her painting before. Johnny Depp, on the other hand, is a great painter!