The controversy and general discomfort about and around Nate Parker has cooled off in the past few weeks. He managed to get through TIFF with few incidents, and last night’s LA premiere of The Birth of a Nation was pretty straight-forward too. According to Deadline, there were no protesters and attendees generally wanted to see the film, regardless of Parker’s controversies.
It doesn’t seem like Parker was doing many red carpet interviews, but he did walk the carpet. I’m also including photos of Gabrielle Union, Armie Hammer and his wife, and Chadwick Boseman (who is not in the film, but came out to support the film). In lieu of any interviews with Parker, I did want to repost the link to this fantastic new Gabrielle Union interview, which I included in the links yesterday. Gabrielle spoke to xoNeCole in what turned out to be a far-ranging interview about white privilege, being a rape survivor, race and more – go here to read the full piece. There’s one part getting a lot of attention, and it’s a pretty great part. Union is discussing privilege and how she would like to challenge her white colleagues to recognize their privilege, and how they are able to operate within the industry in a completely different way from black artists. Union named names.
The reason why most people aren’t willing to go the extra mile to really have equality is because it won’t benefit them. Most people are self-serving, which is human nature so you have to fight back against that. In order to begin to see change start to occur, we have to be willing to have conversations with people who have different opinions than us. I’ve already talked to Lena Dunham; I would love to talk to Kate Upton and Amy Schumer. Maybe I can help to explain the oppressive systems that have benefited and allowed them to say these careless, insensitive and offensive things. Those conversations are awkward as f–k and they get heated. Similar to watching people have conversations about consent.
LOL. I would have loved to have heard the conversation between Lena Dunham and Gabrielle Union. If Lena was smart (??) she would have just listened and not spoken. But yes, I am here for Gabrielle Union calling Amy Schumer and Kate Upton “careless, insensitive and offensive.” Gabby has said no lies.
Photos courtesy of Fame/Flynet and WENN.
I imagine the conversation with Dunham went down rather like Trump’s immediate response of cowering to that pastor in Flint who shut him down. Dunham was probably scared witless.
That dress has to be Marchesa.
I still won’t see the film. No matter how good it looks or what reviews say the man harassed and raped a woman. It doesn’t erase that fact.
Yes, sorry not sorry Nate Parker. I would rather support other black directors and filmmakers that are making a difference and are decent human beings.
My thoughts exactly! I’ll support Barry Jenkins and his film Moonlight. There are other black directors, filmmakers and storytellers out there.
Yeah, I’ve already had to tell PGrant that I won’t be seeing the movie and explained why. He was really surprised to hear the Parker story and said something to the effect of “wow, I can’t support a guy like that either.” So that’s $25-ish the movie won’t be making.
And I hate to put this on a post like this, but: Chadwick Boseman. Damn! He is fine.
I can’t even look at his without feeling disgusted and wanting to slap him, I can’t sitting through the whole movie.
Yes! I love Gabrielle Union and really respect her speaking out as a survivor, but I just can’t bring myself to get anywhere near this film. Commenting here is the closest I’ll ever get.
I did not know he raped a woman, why is she a rape survivor be part of this and defend him?
Never been a Big Gabrielle Union Person (even before the Dwayne Wade Imbroglio!) but I ALWAYS have time for a girl naming em/shaming em and giving em the work!, she Is Taking on a very very hard task as a rape survivor and as a Black woman, as an actress this might cost her dearly and She Is STILL doing it! ✊🏾
Why isn’t she naming and shaming her director?
Because as she said humans are self-serving. She needs and wants this movie to do well. That is why she wrote a non committal essay a few weeks back and managed to mostly avoid taking about him. I have never liked her, I do applaud her openness and willingness to talk about her own rape as well as other social issues, but she is full of sh*t when it comes to this.
I can’t tell her how to feel but I would have a hard time working with and promoting something with men like Nate Parker and his writing partner. Unfortunately Hollywood refuses to give black actors/directors a chance so then we end up with this situation where people find him terrible, but want to support the movie so more opportunities can be had. People have also convinced themselves that the media and Hollywood power players are trying to ruin Nate forgetting how well received and enthusiastic people were about this movie before his past exploded into the open by his own doing.
She kind of did.
@ OriginallyBlue, so you can relate to the social and rape isssues but not the black issues. So like she said, “white privilege”
Nikko by saying “she is full of shit when it come to this” I was referring to the situation with Nate Parker. I have no problem with her calling out Lena etc. for their ignorance.
I’m assuming that’s what you are taking issue with after going back and reading my post. I’m not 100% sure what you are saying.
She already did that in another interview. She talked at length about her feelings about what Nate Parker did and her conflict over working with him.
Today she is talking about white privilege. And you attempting to shift the focus away from that is exactly what she’s talking about.
I wonder if the conversation about consent with Parker got heated.
I’m really sad about this, because I like Gabrielle and Aja Naomi King, and this movie was/is her hig break, but I can’t support human garbage that is Nate Parker. Will not see the film.
Was there a conversation? She has that last line about conversations about consent, but it isn’t clear. And a “conversation” isn’t nearly enough (assuming he’s guilty, which I don’t know.
She seems to have gone out of her way to not address Parker directly. I respect her a little bit less for this.
She’s openly spoken about Nate Parker and the rape allegations:
http://www.laineygossip.com/Gabrielle-Union-releases-op-ed-about-Nate-Parker-and-rape-allegations-in-the-LA-Times/44820
Same. Love them both but I won’t be seeing it. Not supporting human garbage.
Here for Union calling out Amy and Kate. Notice how silent they are this week….
…one Twitter user (goes by X I believe) was outright tagging everyone who had something to say about Kaep and asking them how they felt about the latest news. Some people actually responded.
Get her, Jade 👏🏽
I love this reference.
I love that she is living and speaking her truth with no fear or shame. I really respect that she’s being so vocal. On another note, she is living another type of privilege. She’s married to one of the most successful NBA players in the league and I am sure they have enough money for her to not have to work in another film or TV show again. She is able to speak openly and “school” because of her status as a NBA wife. I say this with no judgement and just as an observation. When you have f-you money, the truth come out of your mouth a lot easier.
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Excuse yourself, she had a career before wade. Don’t belittle her accomplishments. She works because she loves her career. A career that spans almost 20 years.
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Does this means she shouldn’t speak up because she is a Black successful woman. Are you implying that only Black women who don’t have a successful career or not in the entertainment business, or not privilege are the only ones who should speak about White privilege. She works because she likes it. She was doing this before Wade came along. Her career didn’t get better because of him, she already had a pretty good career.
I understand she had a career before she got married. She worked hard and rose to work consistently as a black actress in a blatantly racist industry. That is the definition of success. What I am saying is that she is able to put all of that on the line because of her privilege – being married to a man that makes millions. She can “afford” to be blackballed if she offends the wrong person. I am giving her props because she is using her privilege for good and not for self promotion.
She is also stunningly beautiful. Lena is not. If we remove all of Lena’s problematic behaviour and family connections, she wouldn’t have made it in Hollywood even if she was Meryl Streep level talented.
There are so many things you need to be these days to make it in the industry it’s crazy. You have to be pretty AND white AND connected, etc.
I don’t think any of that is fair. She speaks really eloquently about her own privilege in the interview, and the options open to her throughout her life that have not been open for many other people. And, to be honest, I don’t understand how being married to Dwyane Wade is somehow relevant here. If she cared that much about material stuff, why would she even act anymore, let alone speak out about something that she could so easily not speak about.
I loved the interview. She’s incredibly smart. But man would I have killed to be a fly on the wall during that interaction with Lena Dunham. It would have been hilarious.
If she had gotten famous because of that marriage I’d say maybe, but she’s been working in Hollywood long before she met him, and I think is well experienced enough in it to talk about these issues.
Calling out white people or being called out as one is a good thing, I’m grateful when people remind me of my privilege but it’s a changing, constant, thing… I have to remind myself again and again of white colonialism and privilege blinders because I grew up entrenched in whiteness and covert, liberal, racism. But why does being stunningly beautiful or rich discount the message when it comes from a woman of color? Is it only true if a haggard woman on welfare says it? To me, it really doesn’t matter how much money she has. But that said, I have no shade to throw at white girls who don’t get this yet. It might be an opportunity they’ve never had. These conversations don’t have to be awkward as f*ck or heated, or even angry. They can also just be constructive, honest, and come from a place of vulnerability. Now, Lena Dunham can really have all the seats because I know she’s had the opportunity to have these conversations and she should know by now to stfu but noooo… Gotta make racially charged accusations about men sitting next to her, etc.
Ugh – she didn’t make an accusation about him – she made a joke that she was the butt of and people took it as offensive because of sexual stereotypes about black males. I can’t stand Lena Dunham, but she didn’t accuse him of anything.
I really don’t think about these girls in Hollywood, except for the point that even a mediocre person like Lena, gets paid double what a black woman gets paid, and has the nerve to complain about her salary in one breath. I am black by the way and see job descrimation all the time.
Someone like Lena Dunham or Amy Schumer probably wouldn’t cast Gabrielle Union in anything anyway so I don’t think having money really makes a difference here. Dunham, from what I can tell, likes her all-white casts. I’d be shocked if they even tried to cast Halle Berry in anything.
Kate Upton is just a model, has no power in casting, and from what I can tell isn’t even much of an entrepreneur like other models (not yet anyway) so I don’t know if a huge amount of economic privilege is needed in this instance to call her out.
Obviously, money benefits people as a general rule, but these are three women who either wouldn’t be willing to help her out because of their preference for all-white casts or can’t (in the instance of Upton) so I guess I fail to see how money would help her out here in this instance in terms of standing up to them or calling them out publicly. Since Dunham, Schumer, and Upton manage to annoy even white people, I can’t imagine anyone of any race really getting all upset on their behalf either. Sure, Judd Apatow likes Dunham well enough to hire her, but I don’t know if he’d go out of his way to stop hiring other people because of her either (and he seems to like his all-white casts too from what I can tell. I can’t really any people of color in Knocked Up or This is 40 — maybe they were in the background somewhere. Union most likely has no chance of being cast in one his films anyway, so she can speak her mind about one of his proteges without worrying that he won’t hire her because he wouldn’t have in the first place).
What’s interesting is that if you go back and read the pre-premiere story on Deadline it was that a”large contingent” of actors and directors would be guests. Names on the list included: Ice Cube, Samuel L. Jackson, Alfre Woodard…none of whom showed up apparently. No “large contingent” either. I take heart at that.
I understand the cast being there, no judgment (contractually obligated too); but Chadwick Boseman and Jesse Williams get a side eye from me. It’s their right to support the film, and my right to side eye the hell out of both of them.
I agree, the absence of so many, though subtle is VERY telling. I find myself disappointed with Boseman who I’ve started to fan girl for recently. It’s his decision to go but I find myself wondering if he is a Nate Parker apologist and it lowers him in my estimation.
I gave a loud involuntary UGH when I scrolled down to the picture of Parker. Ick ick ick.
Btw is anyone following the Derrick Rose rape case? He’s another sick one that needs to be hit with a brick (or have an entire house fall on him).
I’m really surprised at Jesse Williams. He is usually so woke. I guess you can be intelligent about black issues and not be about women’s rights.
Black men have often overlooked the plight of black women and women in general. They have a tendency to be hyper masculine and their fight for rights often is a fight for manly MEN of colour not people of colour (women, transgender people etc). I’m not saying this about all but quite a few are right up there with every other race of males protecting manliness and the patriarchy and not seeing the suffering of women (of all races).
I hope this is merely an oversight on Jessie William’s part
Sadly, many men who are woke on one issue seem to go deaf and dumb when it comes to women’s issues.
I think most dudes can’t honestly conceive of women’s issues just in general can’t see their male privilege. I don’t think it’s men of color more than another group.
This isnt fair on Jesse, he is on record for pointing out the irony of misogyny in black communities. Even in his controversial BET speech, his first message was to black women. Speaking of the award he was getting he said, “this is for black women in particular, who throughout history have put the needs of others before their own. We can and will do better for you.”
Me too! I love him but this bums me out.
Jesse Williams is woke AF. Just because he is choosing to see this film doesn’t negate that. I have wrestled with whether or not I’m going to see it.
And @ElleBee that is an offensive and untrue blanket you’re throwing over Black men. Black men have not cornered the market on sexism. There isn’t an ethnic group in this country that your statement wouldn’t apply to.
@WTF “I’m not saying this about all but quite a few are right up there with every other race of males protecting manliness and the patriarchy and not seeing the suffering of women (of all races).”
I never said ONLY black men and I would never say ALL black men. But my statement is not untrue and I can say this as a black woman.
I’m sorry for offending you and this is not a statement that I made to bash or discredit black males. I simply wanted to point out that woke folks can sometimes be aware of one issue and not the next. I spoke of black males in my post because I was speaking of Jesse Williams and Chadwick Boseman who are black.
Jesse has represented black women well though but Boseman recently (in a speech) encouraged black women to support this BOAN film and he got a huge side eye.
The whole article made me respect her a lot more. I’m still not crazy about some of the wording she used in her last letter, but this interview was great.
What bothers me most about the Lena Dunhams and Amy Schumers of the world is that they will scream how they are all about progressiveness and feminism, but then turn around and say something incredibly offensive. They have all the tools and opportunities available to educate themselves, but they don’t. That is true ignorance.
Their brand of feminism is descended from the white feminists who fought for equality while saying nothing in their own homes when their husbands raped the help. They surprise me not.
I swear sometimes I feel like America is this alternate universe where things work a certain way, but every last person around you has determined things do not, in fact, work this way and you are starting to question your sanity. There’s all this public discourse around the stupidest stuff–standing for an anthem–and you never hear anyone mention the obvious: that white people are blaming black Americans for a stereotype WHITE PEOPLE ACTIVELY CREATED and using that to justify police brutality and a malevolently malfunctioning criminal justice system.
Then someone interviews a black police chief in Dallas, or Gabrielle, or any reasonably informed black American really….and it’s like, finally. People DO realize the Emperor Has No Clothes. Because I feel like I’m drowning in a sea of white ambivalence and ignorance. FB is the WORST, most depressing, most inescapable platform for showcasing just how deep white entrenchment is.
+1. I feel like I’m in the matrix and I’m the only one (or one of the few) who can see outside of it. It’s very depressing. Someone (a white guy) on my FB feed said the other day “people are jumping on the Black Lives Matter bandwagon because there’s no benefit to being white in this country. The only group of people you can legally discriminate against are whites.” What???? Do you know nothing about American history? I unfriended him immediately. So tired.
+2. I REALLY needed to read comments like this from intelligent, rational people. I have gone years without posting or commenting on anything too political or controversial on FB because I’m always afraid of offending someone or getting bashed by a friend’s friend. But this week I got sucked into it when my 19yr old (male & white) nephew posted a couple just grossly offensive memes. I was trying to educate him while his douche bro friends were just so insulting & ignorant. I know it may sound melodramatic, but it has really made me worry so much for the future of humanity that it keeps me up at night. These 19yr old white males who think society is “way more sexist toward guys,” “all feminists are b*tches who want to put men down,” “black lives matter is a joke,” “girls lie about rape all the time,” etc. It’s literally sickening. And SO MUCH more prevalent than I thought. Ugh…
Hence Donald Trump, channelling the oppressed white male schtick and doing worryingly well in the polls by doing so.
Oh don’t even get me started…Yesterday my friend posted a link about Chastity Jones and the ruling that it’s legal for employers to discriminate based on locs.
This douche canoe chimed in with the most asinine rant that I won’t repeat because y’all would get dumber just reading it but my favorite comment was “I’m white and short but the NBA won’t hire me. Racial discrimination!”
I just can’t with the level of idiocy…like I know toddlers who are quicker than this guy. Yeah dude, the NBA won’t hire you because you’re white..has nothing to do with the fact that you can’t play basketball for sh*t.
Aside from the false equivalencies, every single thing he posted completely missed the point. I mean, the dumbassery is astounding. Anyway my friend told him to “go be a f*cking bigot on your own page” lol. Love her!
Urgh, Facebook . Don’t get me started. What enrages me are the white people who throw out the Martin Luther King quotes or that Morgan Freeman quote (you know the one) and super quick to repost or retweet some ignorant black person defending the police or saying All Lives Matter and ‘I don’t see colour. ‘ As if to say, see these black folks are not complaining or these black folks agree with us so why don’t the rest of you just shut up, stay in your lane and stop making me uncomfortable/hurting my poor feels.
No you don’t get ME started! 😉
And YES to the racists who come out for MLK Day with a wispy, peaceful quote meme and then turn around with the ALM sh*t. God I hate humanity sometimes.
White people using a Black man who was murdered by a White person to teach Black people how to be Black while spouting the same rhetoric as the White man who killed that Black man. So, you’re saying that everything playing out exactly the same way will render a different outcome, are you? ‘Just be exactly like the man who was murdered by us and maybe we won’t murder you, but only if you’re good… and even if you are.’ That’s so reassuring.
If he were killed today, those same people would be kvetching about how he had been arrested dozens of times, got into riots with police and blocked traffic. Then they’d be asking why he couldn’t be more like Booker T. Washington and I’d be rolling my eyes because I have no patience for these self-righteous, inert and low-key hostile Kumbaya Bigots who decide on their own that the way to change things for others is to not change them at all in order to keep their comfort as the main prize, while telling others to be patient. And are forever bellowing to the people for whom this is life and death, ‘Shhh, later.’
Go suck a peace sign.
@Greenieweenie, Jo “Mama’ Besser, Kitten, I Choose Me, AnneTommy, Scarlet Vixen (auto correct originally changed Vicente to Biden), and Santia, You all have spoken such truth!
She’s right. People of privilege do not want to have to conversation. They want to deny that privilege exists and they want to deny everything that’s happening today. We see it all the time in the comment section here.
As a sidenote, would be nice if the celebs and people who spoke out against Kaepernick and were outraged with him would now speak up about Terence Crutcher and Keith Lamont Scott. But nah, all you hear is silence. This is why Colin took the knee. And Kate Upton’s ig in shambles, if anyone cares to look: https://instagram.com/p/BKZj8x0A9SV/
I won’t be supporting the movie either, but what Gabby is speaking about here and what Nate Parker did are two separate conversations. Both need to be addressed.
Yup, or if 2nd amendment a-holes (i.e. NRA) spoke up about Philando Castile but no, they didn’t. Because gun rights are white rights.
Idk, everything blurs together for me. Ultimately, white privilege/male privilege/the criminal justice system and the way it treats women and minorities=the white status quo. It’s the status quo created by white men that will sometimes bend toward gender (to co-opt black men) or bend toward race (to co-opt white women) but it is the same system nonetheless.
I truly think it all comes down to white people being terrified of black people rising up.
We’re scared of not being number one, scared of being called out on our sh*t, scared of not being the mainstream dominant race in every facet of American culture, scared of not being worshipped, scared of not being able to do whatever we want with no consequences.
We’re suddenly so offended that PoC don’t love us and we can’t f*cking handle it.
Frankly, I’m so damn tired of sharing the same race as all these butthurt whites.
Like, stay over there guys…I don’t want to be lumped in with you sh*t stains.
I’m exhausted guys… How are you all Holding up?? Seriously Last night I think I barely spoke to my bf cause im just drained, I see how me and my friends are sorta avoiding each other viaa text cause there isn’t much lighthearted anything to go around… after a couple days of non discussion and such I have to take a day to check on everyone’s spirits , my6 Guy friends, my Girlfriends, my Pregnant friends, my gfs with brown babies, my gfs with Tall boys… Is just so f*cking much
I’m exhausted, too. Just tired. Thank god my significant other “gets it,” otherwise, it would be tough. People are either oblivious or willfully ignorant. Either way, it sucks.
Same Santia, He is also Very good now at giving me wide berth and making sure im fed an watching Light stuff when it gets this heavy, speaking our when he sees people around him start their coded bS that they would never utter in front of me… but f*ck Is hard Like I told him… when I see yur friends etc Chit Chatting Online like NOTHING is going on or my sister’s in laws getting churchy and actually quasi demanding that ” we share nice things online cause is too much negative stuff and all lives matter cause God told Us blah blah blah” I get this …RAGE like .. I can’t even explain
To Boot I have one of those Lick booter Bosses that Had all the fun to make about trump but is now sending him letters that all bug beg to let him figure out tax policy and essentially come such at the Teat of this clown, I legit keep glaring at him as he attempts to suss out any kind of reaction about me ( Am I supposed to be impressed you are a racist? dont @ me on this the man keeps a toiet roll on his desk with our current president’s face)
QQ – I’m convinced most people are just a-holes. Your boss sounds horrible. I hope it’s an otherwise great job…
Can I just express how much I HATE YOUR BOSS
My girls and I have been checking in with each other via text and while most of us do not identify as Christian, one just sent some soothing gospel songs to help ease our day.
Now I’m going to tell them about sisters checking in with one another on threads of the web- It’s brought more light to my day (I’m hiding out in the office with the door firmly shut).
QQ- I hope your boss trips and falls and busts his face on his desk and that you get to see it and laugh before you decide whether or not to call the ambulance first or post the video for wide viewership.
All of you we-folk stay strong and be kind to yourselves. <3
I am tired too. Tired of the violence, death, excuses and lies. I actually cried myself to sleep last night. Being on Twitter and seeing all the stuff going on in Charlotte, reading the comments (need to stop doing that) it was too much. Part of me wants to get involved, but part of me wants to curl up in a hole and forget this world exists. Being in another country and having no one to talk to doesn’t help.
Well, I’m curled up right now on my sofa with my ice cream pint and my late mothers’ quilt. Listening to Aretha Franklin and Bridge over Troubled Waters. It’s helping somewhat. Still feeling a little down.
Greenieweenie: excellent points. They’re not gonna speak up.
QQ: I’m heartbroken and exhausted. I can’t stop crying.
Or Tavon Boyd to succumbed to heart and renal failure yesterday three days after he was beaten by police. He was agitated and acting strangely, his girlfriend called the police and he continued to be agitated and strange when police arrived. I don’t know what was wrong with him, if he was on drugs or suffered some kind of mental break, or what, but he’s dead now. 21 years old.
Jo Mama you always come through with facts 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
IMO, right message; wrong messenger.
She’s pretty self-serving in skating around the evidence against Parker and, in the end, her tacit support of him.
Talking to Dunham (and Schumer) would be a waste of breath. They’re both perpetual narcissistic professional superior/inferior victims. I just don’t think either of them is worth the effort. I don’t know anything about Upton, so, I can’t comment on whether or not she’s even worth talking to.
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This x1000. Interesting how she goes after other women, but not her rapist director.
May I ask who the right messenger to speak about racism and privilege would be? It seems every time a black person speaks about racism they’re not the right person or it wasn’t done the right way.
As I said earlier, what Gabby is speaking about here and what Nate Parker did are two separate conversations. Both need to be addressed. He is absolutely despicable but I don’t feel that she should be held responsible.
I’m not arguing with you about being the wrong or right person to speak about racism; I’m talking about the self-serving comment/assertion. She’s as responsible for Nate Parker as any actor is for Woody Allen or Roman Polanski…anyone who works with these people and shills for them (their projects) is equally complicit. That’s my opinion.
Yes I agree that anybody who works with Nate, Woody or Roman is complicit. I don’t see how that applies to Gabrielle seeing as how she did not find out about Nate being a rapist until after the movie was made. Now if she agrees to work with him AGAIN after learning the truth about him then that’s a completely different story.
Gabby is like the anti-Stacey Dash and I love her for that.
Wow. She is incredible. I have been so impressed by her and how she’s handled the sexual assault and privilege issues lately. I don’t care if she’s married to DW (I like that she points out that’s not an accomplishment) or has a ton of money – the way she’s speaking up and calling people out is brave. Their are people richer and more famous than her who are afraid to do it. She is awesome!
I have liked Gabby since she confessed to being a jealous mean girl at that Essence luncheon years ago.A lot of women claim to be a girl’s girl but talk about women,put women down to make themselves look better,etc.
It was refreshing to hear Gabby talk about how petty and shady she had been to her fellow actresses and women in general.I became a fan,then.
I really love that she called out these clueless white girls who act like the world should give two real f–ks about what they have to say.
But why shouldn’t someone care about what these “clueless, white” women have to say? I always took it as it’s just WOMEN wanting to be heard. Maybe I’ve missed comments regarding race that they’ve said. If so, then disregard what I’m saying. In the early stages of Amy’s career, I always thought she was trying to be accepted as a outspoken woman in a predominantly male (comedic) environment. She certainly isn’t the prettiest or the funniest so TO ME I felt like she was always trying to be heard! I really liked her in the beginning bc she was outspoken. Maybe I’m just a dumb white woman wanting to be heard too. But I think for us to grow past any race issues, we shouldn’t knock others races down. Saying white women need to hush bc they’re privileged is so backwards to me. Isnt the point to be equal? I have many friends of multiple races & cultures. I feel like at the end of the day, our life issues/conflicts are always pretty similar. We all have our struggles.
well said, Kitten Farts
I think you might be missing the point @kittenfarts. She specifically named Kate Upton and Amy Schumer because of things that both of them have said in the past.
And this is just my own personal pet peeve, but when you are talking about issues as complicated and devastating as racism and sexism it really bothers me when you end with some flippant comment like “we all have our struggles” as if living with racsim and sexism is like that pesky baby weight or that boss that is a jerk. The white privilege that you enjoy every day while you are dealing with your “struggles” comes at my expense. And I’m not asking you to parade around with shaved head and sack cloth because of it, but I would appreciate it if you would stop defending it.
It’s ah-mazing when we see Institution’s such like Berkeley broadening their scope of academia in offering classes on White Privilege, which is proof that we must gain insight and understanding & hush up when we know no better than to succumb to ignorance.
I avoid anything Amy Schumer as it is, but I’ve been battling some health issues for months and am only just returning to my gossip fun. I have no idea what she’s being called out for…but I’m still kind of glad. XD
Feel better, Sparkly!
Thanks so very much, Almondjoy! <3