Last year, I wrote a story about how Angelina Jolie was involving her kids in some of her humanitarian work. Within the span of a few weeks, she had taken Pax in Namibia to check in on the conservation work being done with the charitable foundation she and Brad had set up in the country. Then she took Shiloh to a refugee camp in Lebanon just days later. It’s worth going back and reading that story – Angelina told People Mag that she talks to her kids about her UNHCR work and conservation work around the world. She tells her kids about the refugee children she meets, and Angelina said that Shiloh specifically asked to go to the refugee camp in Lebanon to meet the refugee kids. At the time, I described it as Angelina being a good mom – she was exposing her privileged Hollywood children to a bigger world and she was there to help give them context in real time.
That wasn’t the first time Angelina included her kids in her work – over the years, she taken Maddox to see Iraqi refugees, she’s taken Zahara to see the International Criminal Court and much more. All of her kids have charities set up in their names, set up in various countries, and Angelina has often taken her kids to see the work being done by those charities. And according to sources close to Brad Pitt, that makes Jolie a terrible mother and Brad is a saint because he never wanted his kids to meet refugees.
Angelina Jolie is so obsessed with becoming the head of the United Nations … it caused major marital issues with Brad Pitt. Sources close to the couple tell us … Brad became increasingly upset over Angelina’s political ambitions … we’re told her dream is to become the top UN official … she was never specific. Toward that end, we’re told she has 2 political advisers and a “war room” to help with decisions and image.
Brad, we’re told, was especially upset that Angelina had taken the kids to various war-torn countries, including Lebanon and Iraq. We’re told Angelina would always make sure to bring a security team that was the best of the best on her trips … but for Brad, it still wasn’t enough. We’re told things got extremely tense when Brad and Angie argued over taking the kids to Syria to help rebuild the war torn country. Our sources say Brad was always supportive of Jolie’s solo charity work, but travels with the kids became a bone of contention for several years.
Ugh. The whole “Angelina has UN ambitions, therefore is a terrible mom” thing is bugging me for a lot of different reasons. For years now, Angelina has cared less and less about Hollywood. For years now, her biggest focus has been on her activism and advocacy work. And for years now, she’s included her kids in that work and I strongly believe that the kids are going to be better, more well-adjusted people because of it. Like, why is it a bad thing that Shiloh spent time with refugee children? Why is it a bad thing to expose kids to the larger world?
And in case you couldn’t tell, sources close to Brad are telling TMZ that he will “fight for joint physical custody” of the kids. Yeah. And apparently his first order of duty is villainizing Angelina for wanting to shift away from Hollywood and go full-time humanitarian.
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get the popcorn..this is going to be the divorce of the century
ITA. Brangeleaveya is going to be epic.
“Brangeleaveya.” You win the Internet today.
+1000000
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haha yes!
Best comment ever
so strange…for SO long, they were this couple that so many people assumed were the epitome of what a hollywood couple SHOULD be…gorgeous, glamorous, in love, good parents, a seemingly happy marriage…
and I was one of those who assumed they were completely happy (with ups and downs that any couple would go through) and in it for the long haul. and now?…
as you said, the divorce of the century. because of 1) what so many of us assumed they were, 2) how “suddenly” (but not really) this all happened and 3) how quickly the dirt is being thrown.
I’m just so sad for their kids. as I said previously, I hope they’re in a place where they feel emotionally safe.
We assume these things because its convenient and we want to fantasize about their perfection. Nobody is that perfect. This is coming from a straight up Genexer who had an epiphany when we all realized that the Brady Bunch was pure fiction. Believe it or not us kids thought they were the normal family and we were the freaks. We had no other frame of reference. But even with the advent of the internets and reality tv we all still want someone to put on a pedestal.
I still think she is a cool lady, but she is human.
I guess I can see why he would be apprehensive about his kids going into dangerous situations. I also think that AJ does some amazing humanitarian work, and that it is wonderful that the kids see beyond the normal Hollywood scope. Either way, MESSY and MEAN!
I do agree with the issues of bringing the children to war torn countries. Journalists and the general population is killed daily. There is no amount of security that can provide 100% protection. Pitt was supportive of her solo trips, but they are his children too. If I was in his shoes, I would be fearful for their safety too.
Agree. Exposing children to the global community and charity work is good. Taking them to Iraq and Syria is where I would put my foot down. I feel badly for ALL children in those ravaged places, but I can’t see bringing my own young children along with me.
Not that I think she’s a bad mother. I don’t at all. I’m not a huge fan of hers, but I’ve always respected her charity/awareness work and her decision to adopt.
This. I think this was probably his main concern and that the gossip mags blew it up into something bigger. At some point, it becomes the kids’ decision about what they are willing to risk, but at this age I think they’re still a bit young for that and may feel the pressure of impressing their mom (and I could see as a kid, wanting to impress Angelina).
It does make a certain statement when you are willing to put yourselves in harms way to get the point across that no one should be in that position. Maybe Angie feels pressured to demonstrate this. Although parents in the countries she’s visiting might advise against it. It’s also the best time, I think, to develop a child into a philanthropist. Later they might not be as receptive.
Agree 100% this particular subject should be something that they both agree on.
@Kaiser: AJ will have to work in H-Wood more, now. Whether she likes it or not. Brad will no longer be supporting her world travels.
She will have to modify her lifestyle but the traveling won’t be an issue. When she goes as a Goodwill Ambassador the UN handles the logistics. When she travels for her charities she can bill the charities or take the tax write off. Down the road if she keeps doing philanthropy and getting away from Hollywood, paparazzi, constant press intrusion she will be able to fly commercial which will bring the cost of the trips WAY down. She also is well connected and could do what Will and Kate to and use her friends’ planes. She’ll probably have any easier time of it anyway. She doesn’t have William’s extreme entitlement issues and they will feel better about themselves (and get a tax break) for helping her philanthropic efforts vs enabling someone to take their tenth vacation of the year. If she is smart about it she will be fine. Her rental house is almost $100,000 per month, she is hardly destitute.
Hi, there.. long time reader, first time commentator 🙂 I think Brad is not worried about the humanantarian work as such.. its the safety aspect AND also these kids do need regular schooling and discipline. I suppose, considering his background, he prefers structure (despite his potsmoking and drinking) whereas she is a more learn-from-experience..
I see he is playing dirty. Asshole.
but his friends say he was crying… poor little lost boy.
I cannot help but laugh at some comments towards Jolie. I know this is serious, but you have to be dumb as rock to take the rumors seriously. Yes, working for UN makes you an awful mother, yes she is sleeping with her assistant, British politician, Depp, no, Pitt cannot be an alcoholic a-hole, because she USED to be addicted to drugs, therefore, she is the problem…
This is A. Jolie we are talking about, not some Playboy bunny FFS. Yes, she had wild childhood, but she also became an admirable woman and no she did not STEAL Pitt, you cannot steal an adult man. You can kidnap him, but that is illegal.
“but his friends say he was crying… poor little lost boy”
So maybe those rumors were true about poor Brad running screaming from the room after the leg of doom screamed at him. 🙂
These stories that keep making Angie in to the villain and oh poor Brad are killing me. Poor Brad he hasn’t seen the kids in a week. After his bad performance do you think they wanted to see him? This PR poor me image he is trying to set up is pretty bogus if you ask me. I hope Angie stays strong. If she wants him back fine but if he keeps letting his friends and pr team paint her in a bad light then I am done with him. As far as her bad mouthing him? Excuse me who is the FBI talking to and who got drunk? Oh right that is Angie’s fault too. Please!!!!
“So maybe those rumors were true about poor Brad running screaming from the room after the leg of doom screamed at him.”
Leaving a river of crystalline tears behind!
Because it can not be true if Brad wasn´t crying!!!
+1000
I don’t know about the rest and I’m not going to judge either side but @mini who said ‘after his poor performance do you think they wanted to see him?’ Trust me when I say your love for your parent or anyone that is a parent figure is such that no matter what they do, u will love and miss them. There isn’t just one child. There are multiple children with different personalities and different relationships with thier father. At least one of them yearns to see him. Please don’t be blasé about children not seeing thier father.
I totally agree Lilian. I don’t think his “bad performance” made all six turn on their dad and they are the ones who have decided not to see him. She is making that choice.
Her lawyer is going after Brad and asking for physical custody of the kids is an aggressive action. She seems to be totally, 100% done and over it. The statement about this being for “the health of the family”, the coy reference to an incident and throwing him to the wolves as the rumors grew (including the assumption he has been molesting children since the 1980’s on this site) surprising him by filing, not filing together and issuing a joint statement, having 24/7 security posted outside her home in a gated, very private and exclusive community, allegedly blocking his numbers so he can’t reach her, holing up with her kids for a week and not allowing him to see them. She understands PR and plays the game better than most. She knows exactly what she is doing. Her choice of attorney was also pretty telling. I know she used her before but during that divorce she was also pushing an eventually accepted narrative then too.
These are all statements from unnamed ‘sources’ though. Most of the commentary on this divorce so far are only a little removed from fan fiction. Neither of them has directly said anything so far so who knows what’s actually going on.
Tabloids will take a quote from anyone and then the journalists rewrite it to suit their agenda or to make a better story; I was recently interviewed by a reporter and the article that came out bore no relation to anything I’d actually said so I’m reserving judgement on ALL of this so far.
Yes, I take nearly everything with a huge grain of salt.
Thank you, I feel the same way. These are from “sources” and not from Brad or Angelina themselves. Also, I can see why Brad would be uncomfortable with the kids going to war torn countries – even with good security.
This all day. A grain of salt is an understatement. I’ll just assume everything written about this divorce is a lie, unless we’re talking about direct quotes and court documents. I don’t know the Jolie-Pitts, but I know the pink press.
@swak I was thinking the same thing. No matter how good your security team is there is always a chance of something going wrong.
A lot of the men/women in the military are the best of the best but a lot of them still get killed or injured.
Right? I’m not judging anyone, yet.
Yeah- the tabloids are going to put something out there. If Angie & Brad play this tight & they leak nothing…..there will still be crap stories run every day from the guy whose sister bumped into the dog walker for Angie’s hairdresser who said that she seemed really sad when she got a text three weeks ago. Since she was so sad it could have been from Brad. And don’t try to steal that story because I already called radar.
Whoa, you’re being way too logical right now ma’am 😉
At this point I am refusing to believe that Brad Pitt would say something so unkind about Angelina. When she comes out and verifies what’s being said by “unnamed” sources as accurate then I will believe it.
Thank god there’s a voice of reason here. You’re right, we don’t know anything for sure yet. It all looks a lot like guesswork. I also think it’s not about her work at UNHCR, but probably much more about different ideas about how te kids should grow up. This isn’t about being right or wrong, good or bad mother/father, but obviously about two very different concepts about how to live your life. I’m sure they both are good parents who want the best for their kids.
Yep, too logical and I like it. The same tabloid will contradict itself in the same 24 hours. There is no way BP doesn’t appreciate his children learning about and experiencing what is going on in the world. That was his whole mantra for leaving JA … he was bored and wanted to challenge himself. The tabloids suck. I hope they both get joint custody though … Based on the very little facts that have come to light, I hope it spurs him on to get his life on track because to think those kids don’t love their father, flaws and all, is crazy.
If he is the source of this story, then it does not reflect well on his character.
Right? And I want to tell all these “Let’s go back to the 50’s” Trumpeteers that WE DON’T THINK THE SAME WAY YOU DO. You cannot villainise women for not being your Leave it to Beaver stereotypes anymore. Or you can try but most of us don’t buy into that crap and we laugh at your attempting to insult a woman in that way.
I don’t fault him for being scared for his kids in war zones. Imagine that family as a kidnapping prize. Doesn’t mean she’s a bad mother or he’s a bad father but I would be concerned as well.
Yes!
The POINT of refugee camps is that they are theoretically safe zones, where people have run to in order to escape the dangers of war. There are millions of children living in refugee camps. In part, she is showing that the children who live in those camps are as valuable, as important, as her own children. This is hardcore, plus the media coverage for these events is HUGE.
I applaud her so much.
Kidnapping risk in the locations they go to is really not a factor. Can you name me one celebrity who has been kidnapped or even harmed due to their work with the UN/UNICEF?
(As for Lebanon proper, it’s still a big holiday destination–20% of their GDP is from tourism)
And if BP was so concerned about the children, he could apply that concern closer to home: stop smoking and stop riding a motorcycle.
@Totallybiased,
Yes they are supposed to be a safe place, but the Lebanese ones have had a huge amount of violence. The Lebanese people haven’t welcomed the Syrians with open arms, they have been shooting the refugees, stabbing them and even burned a camp down.
Any residual sympathy I may have had for Brad out the window behind this. This is just foul.
For the past year he’s been running off to Europe drinking and drugging and completely neglecting Angie and the kids, and now SHE’s the bad parent? GMAFB.
Why wouldn’t the kids want to see their father?!
I’m not really buying this. I can see not wanting your kids to go to a war zone, but I can’t picture his team being foolish enough to attack her over humanitarian work.
I’m not buying this either. His team wouldn’t release this ” thinks she’s a bad mother ” narrative. All the moms would be running to her defense.
I don’t believe the moms will run to her defense.
On the contrary, most likely they will praise Brad’s desire to provide a secure environment for the kids. A secure environment where, most likely, they get to see daddy drunk off his ass, on weed, fighting with mom, but still, secure environment. (in their mind at least)
Whomever is working this angle, knows the mentality of the so-called ‘minivan majority’ (apologize to all those moms that have minivans and don’t belong in this category)
Exactly. Dumb move
They already do;-)
I don’t buy it either. I have no horse in the race, but this makes laughably little sense, it shows flaccid gossip muscle. Brad worked to help Katrina victims by building homes; he works on other architectural projects in addition to films, as she does. He founded Not On Our Watch with Clooney and Damon and Cheadle. Look to the Stars lists his giving and involvement. And I would suppose that he knows he didn’t marry a stay at home mom, and that many many stay at home moms often stay involved in community or world issues and causes. It’s 2016.
Maybe the England relocation concept was more of the issue, and it’s been turned into this by PR flacks or tab writers.
Yeah, this!
Add me to the not buying it corner. I can’t believe that many a parent would not be worried about their children going to Iraq or Syria.
Ditto.
He probably questioned one occasion for some reason like this and it got twisted into ‘she’s a bad mother because she cares about refugees’ because that makes a better headline.
Agree. I would fight my spouse tooth and nail if he wanted to bring my kids from safety to a war zone. Who wouldn’t ?
This actually sounds like something Jolie put out there, rather than Brad.
Except she hasn’t taken them to Iraq or Syria, she isn’t taking them to the actual war zones. She took Shiloh to a refugee camp in Lebanon. TMZ and the Mirror claim that she wants to take them to Syria and they fought over it, but we all know how accurate the tabs are!
Yeah, this is just ridiculous. It’s lazy gossip, feeding into the same narrative that everyone has been trying to spin for years. Angelina is a cold, terrible woman because she does charity work? Like wtf?
And… anyone… who uses… this many… elipses… is automatically… full… of… shit.
AW…is that your kitty, Shamby?
That is my boy, when he was but a baby. I’m going on a trip and my brother is watching him, and I miss his little face and little paws and little everything so I’m feeling nostalgic.
Beware Shambles of the kitty who will give you dirty looks when you come back! I left my two for a week and the one sat on the floor when I got home and didn’t come to me. When I tried to pick him up he laid his ears back (never does this to me). But forgave me. He now follows me around to make sure I don’t leave again! 🙂
Aww Shambles, cute baby!!! We left ours for one week (with a lady living nearby) and we missed them terribly!! They were also sulking for a couple of days afterwards!
Cute kitties guys!!! I might have to replace my avatar with my two yorkie puppies, love them so much!!
Kitten; I’ve been thinking about you! Sending you love hon!
I think this is all very, very aggressive work by her camp.
I find it so sad, this level of animosity between the two of them. I know she’s probably done, and maybe she was scared and maybe the kids are scared, but to start a divorce this way has just got to take an incredible amount of courage and moxie. I hope she is really thinking about the kids and the long term affects of a smear campaign like this. Of course it’s all better if the household was volatile, I just never ever expected that between the two of them we’d see such disgusting garbage in a contentious divorce.
I’m not buying it either. It does make a great story that adds fuel to the fire, which is exactly why someone made the editorial decision to go with this narrative.
I’m also not sure she has ambitions to be the “top” UN official either, but that also makes a good story full of tension.
Also, “top oficial, she wasn’t especific” sounds more like, I don’t know ish about the UN so I don’t know what the higher office is called.
top job would be secretary-general of the United Nations.
And in the back of my mind, she’d make a great one….eventually.
Right now, she doesn’t have enough seniority.
Secretary General is way out of her reach , but perhaps UNICEF chief, even that is pretty pie in the sky, she simple doesn’t have the experience and political powerbase.
I don’t think he is attacking her over *her* humanitarian work–that’s just a misleading title the tabs are running with. It is not weird that they might disagree about taking young children to war zones. I wouldn’t do it, nor would I be happy if my partner wanted to.
Exactly. This is how I took it, too.
Personally, I think it’s amazing that her kids get to experience different cultures (the good AND the bad), but I also understand why their father might be uneasy about it.
Agree except, she’s never taken any of her children into a war zone. How did refugee camp become war zone?
War zone isn’t really an accurate description though. Refugee camps are, by design, outside of war zones.
+1
Also, from this parent’s perspective: totally rational not to want your children in an active war zone. Millions of children live in that insecurity; there is zero reason to bring children from safety to a war zone.
Maybe to instill compassion in them, remind them of their privilege, and teach them that there’s way more to life than the bubble of “safety” they live in
But I think there are ways to instill compassion and teach them about the rest of the world without taking a child to a dangerous place.
Yes, who in their right mind would bring a kid to a war zone? (And apparently she hasn’t, but just the notion is ridiculous.)
You can instill compassion without actually putting your children in danger. There are plenty of place you can do humanitarian work that are far less dangerous than an active war zone. That’s not to say that she should stop working in those places, at all.
As people have pointed out above, a refugee camp is, usually by definition, NOT in an actual war zone. If it were actually IN the war zone, the refugees from the war wouldn’t be staying in it to escape the war in question.
+1. Not buying.
They lost me at “she wants to be the head of the UN” …. She obviously likes the chance to actually meet with people in the situations. No indication she wants to work behind a desk. There are a lot of fantasies being peddled right now.
And this is one of the most ridiculous fantasies. She doesn’t have the necessary background to become Secretary General of the UN even if she wanted to, which she almost certainly doesn’t.
It’s right up there with the House of Lords nonsense.
I’m not buying this story either. As far as I’m concerned, this is some very clever double-and triple-think strategy from Wasser’s team. Much subtler warfare than you see in most celeb divorces: spin the fact that he worries about his kids’ safety while in warzones to mean Brad has blasphemed by undermining or outright criticizing her charitable works.
I’m not commenting much on this break-up because I see fault on both sides and a hell of a lot of well-placed leaks from both teams. I think there is a lot more going on here than the dissolution of a marriage, in terms of motivations and underlying reasons for the split.
At this point I think his team is throwing whatever they can get their hands on at the wall just hoping something will stick.
JESUS!.. COME. ON Sir!!! This is the card he is Playing?? FR fr??
If this is the card he’s playing then: Deal Me In.
Sorry. I have Presidential debate fever.
If it’s leaked to TMZ, I’m guessing it’s Jolie playing this card. Woman’s got game.
Well to be fair, I really think this is just some nonsense, that is written… brad always knew how angie is and was cool with it
Let the mud slinging begin. It doesn’t maker her a bad mother but I can sort of see where he is coming from – they are always travelling with her/them so they haven’t really had a chance to settle and root themselves in school, make friends etc.., so in that way they maybe missing out on a ‘normal’ childhood.
We really don’t know about their day to day lives, how many play dates they have or with whom, or if they belong to arts or sports clubs and go to classes there.
I’m sorry, but how are they always traveling with her? Over the past 12 years he was the one who made way more movies than her, and they always relocated to be with HIM. She usually travels alone to her UNHCR trips, and they hardly ever last more than 3 days. Why would be so hard to relocate to London? They worked and lived in London (mostly, again, when HE was filming the movies) more than in LA. Many people live in both countries, and I don’t see how that could be a big problem.
I agree that moving to London shouldn’t be a big deal for an international family, but… Angelina has bigger plans vis a vis her political future; her goal is to become a peer in the House of Lords requiring her to become a UK citizen and to give up her American citizenship permanently. Presumably she’d want the kids to be UK citizens too, so this is why she wants sole custody. All in all, this move is a lot bigger and with many more serious implications than it appears on the surface.
This is just speculation, but I have serious doubts that giving up his American citizenship is a choice Brad would be prepared to make.
In my opinion (which is ALL it is) one of Brad’s biggest jobs over the past dozen years is keeping AJ’s craziness under wraps. She strikes me as a fragile, deeply damaged person struggling with mental illness. On the plus side, she is/was deeply loved by her husband and has benefitted from the love and responsibility of children who keep her focused and out of her head, keeping her doubts, suspicions, jealousy and paranoia quite than they would otherwise be. I would guess she’s bi-polar and not entirely reliable with her meds… and I think cutting off her husband, best friend and most dedicated, loving supporter was a HUGE mistake that will begin to reveal itself sooner rather than later.
I feel pity for her, but fundamentally I believe those children need far more stability than their mother alone is well enough to give.
I am sorry, whirdly, but she wanting to become member of HOL is speculation. Also, according to her husband, she was always the levelheaded one, organized and serious one, so I don’t know why are you thinking that she has mental issues. Brad said that he is 12 years older than her, but buy maturity level they are same age. She, also, did not ask for sole LEGAL custody, which means that every decision about kids will be made jointly.
Also, how do you know that she is jealous or paranoid?
Whirldly, I think there are many things wrong with the scenario you’ve concocted, but I’ll stick to a factual issue. You do not have to renounce your U.S. citizenship to become a UK citizen, nor do you have to give up any non-UK citizenships to sit in the House of Lords — the criteria for nomination to a peerage state simply that the nominee must “be over 21 years of age and a citizen of the UK, another Commonwealth country, or Ireland.” The nominee must also be resident in the UK for tax purposes and willing to remain so.
That said, it is incredibly, vanishingly unlikely, given the machinations of UK politics and the views of the electorate, that any party would nominate Angelina Jolie for a peerage. Now or ever. Odds are probably better of my dying from getting hit on the head by a meteorite.
I’m torn about this. Obviously AJ shouldn’t be villianised for the work that she does–she is doing admirable things and showing her children that there is life outside the Hollywood bubble. But I have 3 kids, and I wouldn’t take them to Iraq or other war torn countries like Syria, even if I had a huge security detail, just out of fear for their safety. So I can see where the conflict might be with this.
Same here. I doubt the conflicts were over AJ taking the kids to meet refugee children, but WHERE she was taking them to meet refugee children.
I’m all for exposing kids to different cultures and helping them understand the issues facing the world today, and that not all kids have the same opportunities or privileges, but I would be very, very reluctant to take kids into unstable regions where there is a real risk to their lives – safety teams or not.
She took Shiloh to Lebanon & turkey there are stable countries not torn war countries like Syria Iraqi
Fa, I live very near the Lebanon and Turkey and even though my country is very safe; members of my family have been concerned about where I live for years and have tried to persuade me to change jobs so I can come back. I think it’s natural to be concerned these days about your family travelling anywhere near war zones; my family reason that just because nothing has yet happened in my area, it doesn’t mean it is never going to and to a certain extent they are right.
We don’t know what actually happened here but if it was as simple as expressing concern over the children going to the Middle East, even a safe area, then I think that’s not unreasonable. I believe Turkey has experienced some bombings in recent years actually, so I would find it understandable to want to know more about their plans.
Given that 20% of Lebanon’s GDP is from tourism, there are clearly a lot of people who don’t think it is a war zone. As for bombings, well we’ve seen them in Paris, London, and various parts of the US–so would you recommend she avoid those locations with the children?
Exactly, Jessie. Especially when they are the children of world-famous celebrities worth an estimated $400 million, making them huge kidnap targets. Of course their father worries. It takes some balls to publicly spin that to mean Brad is criticizing Angelina’s UNHCR work. She was involved in that when he met her, and I think it’s been clear over the years how proud of her he has been, and how it was actually a part of what drew him to her by comparison with the superficial life he was living with Aniston. Jesus, the spin has become so ridiculous in this break-up that a dad’s understandable concern for his kids’ safety is reported as a despicable attitude toward his wife’s noble work.
Yes. IF this story is true and IF this is how Brad actually feels, he never called her a bad mother. He apparently disagreed with her taking their children into high-danger areas like Syria and Iraq…and I agree with him. It’s great to expose your children to how people less privileged than you live, but taking them to a place where they require an actual team of security and could be in very real danger? Yeah, I wouldn’t want my kids to go either.
Re: her UN aspirations. If it’s true she wants to be top dog at the UN and has staff and ‘war rooms’ dedicated to making that happen, I could see how that would cause some distance between Brad and Angie. She’s been involved with humanitarian work as long as he’s known her, but if it’s become all-consuming as this story suggests, their aspirations and visions of the future may not be in sync. Happens to couples every day. Doesn’t make one bad or one good, they just aren’t on the same page anymore.
Angelina didn’t take the kids to Syria. She took Shiloh to a refugee camp on the Lebanon border, a camp which houses Syrian refugees.
I know, right? I honestly can’t recall her taking Maddox to Iraq. Maybe Iraquie refugees somwhere else, but I remember Angie going a few times to Iraq, always alone.
Thank you Kaiser clarifying this, she never took her kids to a war torn country
She took Maddox to a refugee camp in Iraq and also to visit with soldiers in Iraq as a birthday trip.
http://www.popsugar.com/celebrity/Photos-Angelina-Jolie-Maddox-Jolie-Pitt-London-Heathrow-Airport-After-Visiting-Iraq-Jordan-3573337
Also, refugee camps can be dangerous regardless of location (hence her insistence on big security teams.) It also effects adults in a profound way emotionally, worrying about the effect on their mental health is also a valid concern.
She has spoken about wanting to bring her kids to Syria. Just because they disagreed on the perceived risk and if the risk was worth the benefit doesn’t make either one bad people. It only shows they were concerned for their children.
Lindsay, she didn’t take Maddox for the Iraq part of that trip. She went there alone.
That doesn’t necessarily mean she didn’t want to take them to those places or that they didn’t argue about it. Still, I’m taking these comments with a grain of salt for now.
I think it is made up, but I can see this being a real issue. I am a lot more conservative now about where I would travel with kids. I mean, I’ve been to Mexico and have good friends there, but even so there are some parts now that I feel hesitant to go with my kids. I wouldn’t sign up for a trip to a refugee camp in Lebanon, especially since they are a high-profile family. I was talking about traveling to Turkey a few weeks ago with my husband and we both felt a little hesitant given what’s been going on. I certainly would not judge other people for making those decisions, but I wouldn’t be totally shocked if Brad did have different levels of comfort than Angelina.
I live in Mexico, we travel a lot by road and we are watchful of where we go and the time of the day that we drive. I have been wanting to renew my US visa to visit elder relatives in the US, I also have family in Europe. I am more worried about being in a big-ish city in the US or traveling in Europe and be in the midst of a terrorist attack.
Nowadays, few places are really really safe. Crazies, fanatics and can sprout anywhere and in our case we have drug war, but it is violence either way.oh, I forgot the US also has those trigger happy cops.
I was deeply saddened when I learned about Terence Crutcher and how he lost his life. My condolences to everyone who relates.
@Ennie agree with everything you said.
Yes, Ennie. It is much easier to freak out about unfamiliar dangers than familiar dangers. Although, I also have weird feelings that pop out now when I take my small kids to the movies in the US. I am not justifying them, rather pointing out that they are common fears and I wouldn’t be surprised if Brad felt that way.
I’ve worked in war zones and some aid workers did bring their children into them (some but not many). Most aid workers live in areas that are secure sometimes with guards but 100% agree, would never bring my children into them during the heat of war. The big difference is if the UN and several big relief groups are present or not. Honesty by the time the UN shows up the war is often “over” even though it technically may be called a war zone. The UN tends not to enter the country until the conflicts are lessened and from I’ve seen of her she follows the UN. Also refugee camps, and I’ve been in a lot of them, are closer to other borders away from the actual so called war areas. Would imagine she met these people in refugee camps or in safe areas and yes…even in war zones there are safer areas. In refugee camps she probably not only was escorted by security but officials as well. Don’t think she was allowed to jsut wander around meeting people.
With the political situation between the US and Syria, there is no way AJ would be granted a visa to enter in the country and I doubt the UN would allow her to take her kids into Iraq, this is a high-risk country, UN staff members serving there cannot bring their families, neither can most diplomatic personal. Whoever this “source” is has very little understanding of how foreign service works.
+1
?!?! If this is true (which I doubt it), it would reflect bad on Brad, not Angelina.
I’d be tempted not to believe anything coming from TMZ … Reserving judgement on the whole thing.
Yeah, Angelina’s attorney is known to use TMZ as her mouthpiece (and she got a lot of shit for it when she was using TMZ to discredit Amber Heard recently). I’m gonna take this story with a big ass bucket of salt.
i bet the 50% of the country voting for trump would think it makes brad look great
I’m 100% team Angie.
I think Brad loved Hollywood power couple, and he even liked the humanitarian work when it was enhancing the Hollywood image. But once Angie started pulling back from Hollywood, I think Brad was done.
The whole thing will get ugly, and I don’t think any of the kids are in Brad’s side. Angie is too involved in their lives.
That is a lot of speculation and projection. I also highly doubt the kids are playing #TeamBrad and #TeamAngie. It is not a zero sum game. They love both their parents and both were involved in their lives. You really should want things to have gotten so bad that the kids want to be estranged from their father.
I think they have been fighting many times through the years about parenting. When it started getting worse, the children got scared and asked them to get married for reassurance. That is why both adults kept saying they got married because their children wanted it. Poor babes 🙁
I don’t see the UN = bad mom narrative anywhere. What I see is that he didn’t want the kids in dangerous areas. And we’ve seen the stories that say she can’t eat because she is too traumatized by the refugee’s plight, she wants to be in solidarity with them. If what she sees can do that to her, it might be a bit much for the kids. Maybe he is right.
(My comments here are not necessarily what I believe, because it is impossible to know the truth, but a counter argument. It’s always good to see things from both sides.)
I couldn’t agree more. I find I often can’t help but present an opposing view, regardless of my opinion on a subject.
Agree with you and I’ll do the smae thing sometimes also.
Yep. I’ve traveled to Kenya to live and work for years with my main base being Nairobi. Although it had traditionally been stable for quite awhile right before I was going to move there for 1.5 years all h$*l broke loose with election riots. My parents were understandably scared and being in my 20s and single I was a bit dismissive of it. While I was there I was a witness to riots, police shoot outs and was mugged on several occasions. My mind and body took hits that I wasn’t acknowledging as I slowly became more reclusive and ate and drank more to the point of gaining twenty pounds. It took me two years to work that off and learn how to be healthier in every sense each time I traveled back there. On my wedding day, in the US, Westgate shopping mall was attacked and all my guests (many of whom travel and live in Kenya with me frequently) kept it from me. We all had spent many hours there together. Going back to Nairobi as a married stepmom who was much more aware of the dangers of the country was a completely different experience and I felt more cautious about it. I apologized to my parents for not recognizing all their fears and worries. Does it make my work bad? Nope. Did anyone say it does? Nope. But would I and my husband question my taking my stepson or our child there? Yep. Your perspective changes as you have more to protect and lose and you also recognize what that stress does to yourself.
Ugh ! I hate it when one parent is being supposedly protective by preventing his kids from leaving their golden cage and visiting some troubled places in the world. As if his kids are more valuable than other people’s kids. Or as if (in this case) AJ is going into the war zone without protection.
My cousin lives in the UK and married to a British. This year he didn’t let her go visit her family with their daughter saying that she looks Arab she won’t be hurt but their daughter looks like a Brit and they will hurt her. WTF. It’s is always enriching for kids to understand that the world isn’t only like their school and neighborhood. They grow up more cultivated and emphatic.
Bit ridiculous, I agree. Especially considering the rise of hate crimes in UK! I think she might be more in danger in this country than there.
Yes. Thank you. He came to Tunisia so many times and spent the summer by the sea in our coastal small town. He knows it is far from any touristic resorts. I live in Canada and am never afraid of visiting.
@ReineDidon
Don’t worry, they’ve gone overboard in Uk with the whole thing against Muslim people and countries. It’s Trumpland 1.0 at the moment, some of them were even thinking that getting out of the EU was limiting Muslim migration, unbelievable. Non-British people here fear to go out but nobody wants to hear that because saying it aloud is ‘unappropriate’ or considered scaremongering.
I don’t know if you have children or not… But generally I think most people regard their own children as more important than other children. My son comes first without a doubt… And then someone else’s child. I don’t think that is such a strange thing.
Right? Also, being a parent is about keeping your kids safe, happy, healthy and able to grow up to good people while working with the cards you have been dealt. I am sure there are tons of women in Syria that would rather not raise their children in the midst of a brutal civil war but there is very little they can do about it. Just because you don’t want a child to leave a safe place to go to a dangerous place doesn’t mean you think your kid is superior to the kids that live there. It would be wonderful if every child had a perfect childhood in a safe environment but it isn’t reality. There is only so much you can do to help the children of the world but you can and should protect your own kids to the best of your ability.
My daughter goes on an annual trip to Florida with her friend and her parents (who are good friends of ours) every year. She went this last weekend and I can tell you I was nervous and worried. She’s 13. When you’re a parent you imagine anything can happen when you’re not there. I get scared for her in her school with all the shootings….parents worry. It’s our job. Whether it’s a valid worry or not doesn’t matter.
Neither are bad parents and I doubt Aj would put her kids in danger, but if he was worrying, I don’t blame him. He’s their PARENT.
Turning all this into reasons for the public to take a side is STUPID. This is the last thing those kids need.
I am sorry, but things have changed a lot in recent years. A friend of mine arranges travel for engineers to go all over the world. Part of her job is to be aware of official travel guidance and potential risks. She has always sent people to hazardous regions and organized training to help them minimize risks, but now there are more and more places that are out of bounds. She herself has always traveled widely, but now there are very few places she will go in Northern African and the Eastern Mediterranean. I don’t blame anyone for taking extra care and the tourist business in the UK is booming because people are coming here, even in preference to countries like France and Belgium.
Nonsense. I live near the Lake District and they had a bad season, if you listen to shop/hotel owners in the area. Never mind all the press reports otherwise because, you know, saying the truth becomes scaremongering after Brexit.
Sorry, but no, you are wrong. Surely I wouldn’t forbid my children to visit any country where their relatives are living only because the other parent is a stubborn isolationist. Plus Tunisia is not Syria.
I live in the South West and it has been good. Plus Tunisia is one of the places my friend has advised me not to visit. She has security clearance and inside info, so I am inclined to listen to her.
It would be bad parenting to take your kids to a truly dangerous place with the notion that “my kids aren’t more important than other kids” – protecting your children is your primary job. And it’s not like taking kids to a war zone helps the kids already in the war zone.
It’s not about somebody’s kids being more ‘valuable’ than others. Everybody is valuable. But it’s YOUR job as a parent to keep YOUR kids safe. And of course they are every parent’s ‘most important’ kids.
To be honest , in this situation the Jolie-Pitt kids are way more valuable than other kids. Possible kidnap (not likely) but as high profile valuable Western propaganda targets , way more valuable in a terrorists mind than 10,000 dead children in Aleppo. To them it would be almost as good as killing a western President or PM. They may as well have a target painted on them.
Wow. I am lost for Words. I didn’t expect this kind of attacks with these two. I am struggling to believe this coming from Brad team. Someone said that his whole family man thing was a facade, i am starting to believe it’s true. I am so desappointed. Wow.
Ummm wow that’s a bullshit stand. If that’s how he’s fighting back he really needs a new team
Ya, I’ve long admired her refugee commitment but I’d be drawing the line at taking my 9yold to a country that destabilized and dangerous. I don’t think BP would be dumb enuff to object to her work but taking the kids ( and yes I get it in terms of not wanting to raise over privileged children) but I can see this causing a lot of friction…
I agree, it seems unnecessary to take little children into dangerous situations like these. It also seems unfair that they are constantly on planes, which are more uncomfortable the more you use them – not a stable feeling for children.
See above, she didn’t take them into Syria or Iraq.
Just because Lebanon is stable today doesn’t mean it will be stable tomorrow. Maybe it’s more because he was worried word would get out Angelina Jolie was taking her kids to a refugee camp? You don’t know why he’s worried.
She took Maddox to Iraq.
Lindsay–no she didn’t (PopSugar isn’t known for the most accurate journalism.) She went to visit troops in Baghdad as part of a larger trip, and the First Cav would CERTAINLY not allowed her to bring her son, no matter how safe the environment was at the time.
Lindsay, please stop saying that. She went to Jordan with him, and he was waiting there while she went to Iraq by herself, for one day, before they went home together.
As a former aid worker, that has worked in war zones, honestly would be more worried about disease and other illness more than them being in a war zone.
agreed. and honestly, they wouldn’t have allowed it if it was no go.
Again, we don’t actually know how the children react and feel during and after these visits. Maybe they go because they love their mother, and it’s important to her. We know nothing about these children’s education, mental health. I don’t think it is a bad mom issue, or downplaying the humanitarian efforts. It will become an issue how a judge sees it if it indeed becomes a battle for joint physical custody.
He always say he supports Angie work why the change of heart now, they both always on the move they love to travel, he always proud his kids are learning different cultures he even said in his last interview with New York magazine
I’m inclined to believe this actually came from Angelina’s camp since it makes him look bad, not her.
I agree. I don’t know why but I thought these two would divorce quietly when they got sick of each other. I never expected this.
Or, maybe it’s totally made up BS?!
I don’t for one second believe this came from Brad’s camp.
Obvious made up story is obvious. This breakup is gossip mana to many publications and they will run on this for months and years to come. I believe they will spin anything.
+1
Didn’t read all the comments before posting my own but I’m relieved to see that most commenters are calling this out for the bs tabloid story it is.
I didn’t hit his face
Have been verbally aggressive but never physically aggressive
She pushes my buttons
She’s a bad mom for helping other kids / having our kids volunteer
I don’t believe this. On another note, no parent would be comfortable with their child going to Syria. Who would send their child to a war torn country voluntarily? It’s ok to have apprehensions about that. That does not make her a bad mother either. It’s just a matter of what you prefer for your child.
A refugee camp is not a war zone. A refugee camp is most of the times like a shelter in a neutral zone far from where the war happens. So when AJ goes to a camp it is not as if she is visiting the war zone but visiting the war victims. Plus she spends few hours on the place then flies away.
Of course it is more risky than Beverly Hills, but not life threatning risky. Think of the journalists and reporters that go there. And the people that actually spend years there before going back to their cities.
You really don’t know what you are talking about. Refugee camps have been attacked in the past, also Lebanon and Turkey are not stable. There’s Hezbollah in Lebanon and the terrorist attacks in Turkey this year have been the worst.
@toni – thanks for saying that, refugee camps are emphatically not the safe places we like to think.
Not to mention what a hugely emotional toll that must take on the kids. It’s hard for ADULTS to go there, let alone kids. I actually think that this is a legitimate parenting disagreement and can see both sides.
She never took them to Syria, or any camps actually in war zones. I keep repeating this–Lebanon has a large tourist industry, so obviously a lot of people find it safe enough to visit on holiday. It isn’t as if there are never terrorist attacks in, oh, London or Paris, hmmm?
People you have to understand she never took her kids to Syria & she always go to camps where refugees are resettle mostly borders & where mostly is peaceful
MOSTLY peaceful. However, they are targets of terrorist attacks and your risk is higher as a high profile individual, not to mention the low key tension always present in the camp and the possibility of riots or uprisings when someone with diplomatic status is there. There is a reason she makes sure she is surrounded by security.
“She” makes sure she is surrounded by security??
If a higher UN official (she is one) goes to an international mission, especially to a camp, et al, of course she will have security. It is a given, to any visitor.
Sometimes the wording makes me feel like she is seen as something else.
“She” takes the kids, “she” travels all the time, “she” stays abroad, etc.
Some poster said how she takes the kids for months out of the US. Ever since she got with Brad you can see how very few movies she made and fewer in which she left the US. She got into directing and made three movies, and the family moved just as they moved also when Brad was filming. How many movies has Brad made since they were together comparing to hers?
Also in quite a few of her trips, also Brad accompanied her, be either to receive accolades or to visit camps too.
@Lindsay
If she was bothered by going to unsafe places she wouldn’t be a UN ambassador; she always travels with security staff too.
People bothered about safety should not travel at all, especially to Paris, London, Rome, Madrid; European capitols are at the top of the terrorist attack lists. I lived in Paris and was in proximity of a bomb twice (promptly removed and detonated elsewhere, of course). It was in the news that a homemade bomb detonated in Budapest on Saturday……
I am not blaming her for having security. In the article it does point out “she” has more security around with the kids. That is fine and perfectly appropriate. “She” knows their are threats to their safety. I am not claiming “she” isn’t fine with going to unsafe places. She is an adult she gets to make that choice. However, just because she is fine with it doesn’t mean he has to be. It simply a matter of risk vs reward, she thinks the experience is worth the risk, their father may not agree. Not to mention the emotional impact it could have on them. There are other factors to consider when deciding whether or not to take the kids somewhere.
As far as not traveling for safety reasons to big cities. That is idiotic. Your chance of dying in a terrorist attack is negligible. I am not suggesting they bubble wrap them. I am not saying don’t take them out of the country. He gets a say too. If you want to pretend that refugee camps are a safe as traveling to Paris, that is fine. Brad doesn’t see it that way and I am sure lots of other people would agree with him. I am not trying to blame him or her I am just pointing out that his fears about taking his kids to refugee camps does not equal condemnation of her efforts.
Plus, it is a little disgusting to suggest the people in refugee camps will teach them compassion. The people their aren’t props. They are the ones being othered, not Angelina. There is a reason people who work for the UN don’t take their kids with them. They are there to do a job. They are there to try and help those people not to provide “context” for their own kids. Most people are able to learn empathy and compassion without traveling to refugee camps.
Who is that drink of water on the left? Jaysus he is fine.
She wants to be head of the UN? Nobody from a country on the Security Counsel can ever lead the UN. I suspect both she and Brad know this.
Yeah, I’ve been scratching my head over that one, too.
Thank you both AJ & BP know this about the UN. That’s why I know the story is bogus. The average public wouldn’t so of course they will believe it.
Security Council membership aside, she is also unqualified for the top job. Refugee and humanitarian relief are only parts of what the UN does. She has no on-the-ground, full-time experience in peacekeeping operations, drafting and promulgation of international human rights documents, weapons inspections, etc.
They (tabloids) use this narrative because ambitious women=bad women, bad mothers.
All very good and true points, Bearcatlawyer, but again, they would never even need to analyze any of that in her case because US citizens are barred from even being considered for the position.
This story is just so false. Clickbait. But people will believe it because they don’t bother to learn about what is required for such positions – the qualifications you raise; or what blocks a person from such positions, the powerful nation status that I raised.
Agree with all of you!
Yeah, over the past few days I’ve been seeing this “Angie wants to lead the U.N.” narrative popping up and I’m not sure what that’s all about. I can understand being more deeply involved, but “leading” the U.N. seems rather unlikely.
That’s because this ‘observation’ is likely from that Halperin douche and sadly, the media doesn’t do their due diligence to determine if it’s even possible.
It’s just like the adopting a Syrian child. People online, mainly fans, did the research and determine that it’s not possible and yet, the story persists.
I’m guessing you mean Permanent members of the UN Security Council, right? Because my country has a non-permanent seat on the Security Council at the moment and we have someone running for Secretary General. (Who is way more qualified, after a running a country and a top UN department, than Jolie will ever be.)
It is more of an unwritten rule. Like the Pope will never be an American. The only requirement is they are nominated by the security council. The first Secretary General was British.
“Most Secretaries-General are compromise candidates from middle powers and have little prior fame. Despite the Charter giving the General Assembly provisions to influence the selection process, the chosen Secretaries-General reflect that the selection process remains in the control of the Permanent Members. Some customs have developed regarding the selection process, such as that the appointee may not be a citizen of any of the Security Council’s five permanent members.”
The only actual rule is vague: “The General Assembly resolution 51/241 in 1997 stated that in the appointment of “the best candidate”, due regard should be given to regional (continental) rotation of the appointee’s national origin and to gender equality.”
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/un/life/job.html
The fact she is American is just one of the laundry list of reasons she would never be appointed to this position.
Perhaps High Commissioner for Refugees is what she’s aiming at.
Just pointing out, TMZ is a favorite of Jolie’s divorce attorney. So this looks like something Jolie leaked, not Pitt.
Or the story originated from DM which it did and TMZ is reusing it for hits and it seemed to work.
Nah TMZ published the UN story first. The DM article references TMZ.
Taking the kids to help rebuild Syria doesn’t even make sense.You can’t really get into the country. They can’t even basic aid materials to the people really. She hasn’t been to Syria since 2009 before everything went down and Brad was with her for the trip.
Go to rehab, Brad. So far, we’re talking about someone who, at the very least, drinks too much, fights with his wife in front of his kids, verbally abuses and pushes around at least his older child (but never hit him in the face! – alledgedly important distinction). And now his latest “My wife’s ambitions are harmful to our children.” Get the hell out of here, seriously.
I don’t believe this story. I feel like we’re going to see a lot of nonsense stories about their divorce. More clicks equals more money.
There will be a shit storm of nonsense stories in the days, weeks, months, and, yes, even, years to come….after all, these are two of the biggest, (if not the biggest) celebs in the world.
She didn’t take the kids to Syria — that would be insane — she took them to see Syrian refugees in Lebanon. You technically can’t be a refugee if you’re still in your home country, so any refugees they visited couldn’t have been in Syria (or Iraq).
First of all, whoever is feeding this info to the press should check. Anyone who is observing the figh at the security council of the UN at the moment would tell you that she is not even a part of conversation about becoming the head of UN. This is so incompetent. They are painting her as some oportunist who will burn her family to get it while in reality she knows better (at least I hope so) and doesn’t have aplan to become a head of UN at least at current time because that’s not happening. And she as someone working for UN probably knows. By saining that the sources feeding this info paint her as incompetent too.
The other thing. Really!?? It makes Brad sound like a racist hypocrite who only cared about the humanitarian work for his image, otherwise why not be pround or it and share it with your kids? And I agree complitely, they will be a better adjusted people for it. When my son gets a bit older I will think of the ways to expose him to the real word, a world in which nt every kid has a mom,a dad, a safe home and a warm meal not to mentiom all the toys and candy and travel.
This makes no sense! Be smart Brad! These are actually GOOD THINGS Angelina is doing with her kids.
Is this really his POV or crap from “sources.” I hope it’s the latter.
Brad was in the wrong for getting drunk on a plane with his children and becoming abusive. That was bad. But if he has issues with his children being taken to war torn countries, and this is causing friction in his marriage, I don’t think he is a bad husband/father for that, and he has a right to be concerned. And he probably realizes that if he loses physical custody of his children he will have very little say in the matter. I get that in this world we need idealistic people. We need people who will take risks and visit places like Syria/Iraq to help the people in crisis there. But I also understand his perspective as a father. These are dangerous places and even with a strong security detail in place, there is no guarantee his family will not be blown to shreds while there.
She did not take the children to Syria or Iraq! Please see above. Please see below. Please see anywhere. She did not take the children to Syria or Iraq!
I merely wrote that if Brad has concerns because she wants to, or tries to, then I can understand those concerns. I don’t think he is villainizing her because of those concerns, if in fact this is all true. Who knows.
I agree….Brad is their father and he has every right to question where their children go and what they do. He would be a bad, and uncaring father, if he didn’t.
While it was an unfortunate incident. parents fight in front of children. Its not unheard of. Angelina can’t prove he’s a habitual drinker or abuser. And you cannot remove a parents custody based on yelling at your spouse.
The first press announcements about he divorce were – Angelina wants to work as a humanitarian which she thinks is important and Brad wants to stay in hollywood working. According to her Wasser team, her personal consultants wanted her to have Brad and her family to uproot to her work, to position her better. If that doesn’t work for one spouse – its understandable. She married Brad as an actor. Asking him to uproot, is a spouse decision and it was reported that Angelina made this choice with her partners not her spouse.
And then suddenly we hear he’s a bad father. This is about one spouse changing the course of their career and asking everyone else to curtail their life around hers.
Wasser team said that her assistants want her to leave Brad? That doesn’t make any sense at all. If that was even true, they would not put that out. These are all speculations. You really believe everything on TMZ comes from Angelina, even anti Angelina stories? She didn’t even put her version on what happened on that plane, and something did happened. It’s Brad who is explaining and changing stories.
Also, would relocation be such a problem for Brad, they never lived in LA that much, and it’s not that he has 9-5 job that he has to be at every day. They already lived in London together more than in LA, mostly to his films being filmed there.
Oh and his work on movie sets all over the place DOESNT? How about being so abrasiveto your wife that a child feels it is necessary to step in.
THATS a bad parent.
Sigh. What a load of b*llocks.
Made up stories are just that, made up.
All I can think of is the children and the families that don’t have a choice not to go into war torn countries. No security details.
🙁
THIS. SO MUCH THIS.
Brad should be grateful Angelina is trying to make their kids appreciate their good fortune instead of allowing them to live in a La La Land bubble.
Angelina will never be the head of UN this is the most ridiculous obviously made up story i have ever read. Its not even possible as she is an american citizen ( even if she wasn’t she clearly not qualified). She will know this, so this is just made up.
As for taking her kids on some of those trips she isnt going there like a normal person, she has the utmost security like a politician.
I think its admirable that she takes her kids out of the hollywood bubble. She would also look like a giant hypocrite if she had her kids isolated in hollywood with no exposure to anything else. Maybe those kids will grow up to be something other than instagram models.
Most of this bullshit is coming from the Daily Fail and The NY post. It seems they are particularly busy trying to make angelina look bad.
Yeah, Brad is so concerned about the safety of his kids that he got drunk inside a plane while traveling with all his kids. Such a caring parent that he tried to drive a fuel truck while inebriated with the plane nearby with all his kids in it. Imagine if nobody stopped him and he drove the fuel truck and accidentally hit the plane. Actions speak louder than words.
Anyone who works at an airport can tell you this never happened as described.
@Original G….I agree…anyone, ANYONE, who steals a fuel truck at an airport would be arrested. Until I see video evidence of Brad driving that vehicle, I am not believing this part of the story.
Vanity Fair has already denied this story.
I take away from that item that AJ is a “terrible mom” at all. If the report is true, he was worried for the kids’ physical safety in extremely dangerous places. Is that so very unreasonable? Even commenters here expressed concern on that point.
This story is BS because their kids have not been to extremely dangerous places.Their physical safety is more in danger in parts of Los Angeles.
I agree with you, Frosty. Brad has seemed like a good dad all along, with AJ singing praises to his name every step of the way. I am not denying that something happened on the plane, but I am extremely disappointed in how AJ handled this out the gate. You know how it goes — things that start off on the wrong foot, tend to end on the wrong foot. Also, I would not want my children going to war torn countries. It is an unnecessary risk.
This story is obviously made up.
Playing devil’s advocate here – to be fair the Jolie-Pitt kids would be a prime target for kidnapping, especially in areas like Iraq where militants are known to carry out kidnaps for money, exchange of political prisoners and general publicity. So there is a slight there on it possibly not being the best place to bring your kids in some scenarios. Having said that I always thought Angie is doing a great job bringing up her kids. She keeps their privilege in check and nurtures their interest in humanitarian issues. She’s not raising another generation of spoilt brat celebrity kids who spend millions on clothes, drugs, booze and grow up to become obnoxious entitled brats. Her children sound thoughtful, learned and interested in world issues. She’s teaching them on how to use their privilege in a positive way. I’ve always thought this sounds like a wonderful way to grow up, being a world citizen and doing humanitarian work.
Umm…they are Brad’s kids, too….and before all hell broke loose last week, it seemed he was also contributing to them being good people. He also does charity work, especially in New Orleans….If things went down on that airplane as we have heard, Brad needs help badly, but, it also seems, that he was good parent for many years. Even, Angie has said this many times in the past.
Yeh… I am not ready to tar and feather brad yet. This is the first I have heard of him doing something like this around their children. And even the best of parents can make mistakes. It happens. They are still his children too. Some of the things I have been reading that people are saying about him sounds ridiculous. The man has been praised by Angie and people here for years and suddenly it’s like he is a criminal and doesn’t deserve to be around his children.
His family is unraveling and it sounds like he is unraveling… That can happen to people.
What else has been said about Brad except he got drunk on a flight and had some physical contact with Maddox?
Exactly Colette. This was proven not to be lie.
And the Jolie-Pitt children have never been taken to Iraq. Closest they have been is Lebanon and Jordan. Kidnapping is a far greater risk to them in Spain, Italy, and Mexico (going by statistics.)
Depends on where you’re going with this. Kidnaps are more common/average in the countries you mentioned maybe (I didn’t look it up to check), but terrorist organizations in the middle east region and others like the farc in Colombia are more prone to high level, publicity inducing kidnaps.
Anyway who knows what’s the truth behind these ‘sources’ and ‘stories’? I just wanted to point out that the logic behind the story had validity to it (the Jolie-Pitt kids are at significantly higher risk than your average civilian when traveling to these places and any parent would be appropriately distressed). As for whether it’s true and who’s a good parent, I hope that both AJ and BP will stop with these character assassination PR leaks (if they are, maybe this is just gossip spin to sell gossip rags) and settle quietly for the sake of their children. When my parents were getting divorced I had to put up with both of them slagging the other off to me and their group of friends. It was mortifying and I hated being guilt tripped into hating the other parent. Imagine having to read all this one day on the World Wide Web, magnified. No kid needs that.
WTH is “the top UN official”? This is obviously made up if the person who wrote it is using that term.This is worse than the BS stories about Angie “joining” the House of Lords.
LMAO
Yes! Exactly.
I assumed they meant the Secretary General of the UN. As much as they appear to respect her, I can’t see the Security Council electing a former movie star as its S-G. This story, along with the House Of Lords one, seems ludicrous.
I call bullshit on Brad’s ‘sources’ as in I don’t believe he believes or has intimated any such thing. Brad has always been proud of and supported Angie in her endeavours. This is just another tabloid story fed by nothing more than the writer’s own opinion.
Do I believe that there is a lot of pain and anger right now (on both sides) and that he’s going to fight for joint physical custody? Yes. But I find it really hard to believe that he would make the kids involvement in charity work an issue when
1. it’s CRYSTAL CLEAR Angie would do anything to protect their kids.
2. Such a statement paints him in an increasingly bad light.
Unfortunately, more and more mud slinging ‘quotes’ courtesy of various tabloids and TMZ will come out as there’s a feeding frenzy for Brangelina split news right now.
I want to be done with all of the nasty speculations because this involves six kids and yet I’m still clicking because I’m hoping against hope that they’ll be able to work this out and be a family again.
I think this is bull. I think Brad is proud of her for her work and people are just looking for things to say.
Will agree that TMZ’s ‘stories’ are gossip until proven otherwise. Although it needs to be pointed out that many here were keen to believe a lot of what was posted last week when Laura Wasser and Angie’s team were leaking left and right.
I don’t see him as “villainizing’ her for her charity work at least not the way the story is worded. Yes it’s a great opportunity to expose the kids to other cultures and the less-fortunate. Especially the older kids who are now teens and can understand the complexities of these situations. But some of these spots are dangerous: Lebanon, Iraq, Syria (the latter just a rumor). They’re no place for kids; you don’t see other UN officials taking their small children along to work there. All the top security in the world doesn’t matter – no one is saying she doesn’t want to protect them. It’s admirable of Angie to do what she does, and the story says he supported her work, just not taking the kids along to some of the more hairy spots.
Don’t see a problem with that line of thinking. If anything it makes him seem a concerned dad (much like Angie is a concerned mom when she split with the kids after his airport meltdown last week).
I don’t see anything implying he thinks she’s a “bad mom” as much as getting a slant/pov out there that they may have had disagreements about a situation that affects their kids.
We had to endure plenty of implied ‘bad Dad’ stories last week, this week as expected is Angelina’s turn…as of now BOTH sides are leaking to the media like crazy, and everything should be taken with a huge grain of salt re both parties.
I agree. I find it strange that some people only see his leaks are not hers. After the initial filing the Bad Brad stories came out like machine gun bullets. It may have taken time for Brad to get his team in place, but I guess it is his turn now. It looks like the FBI will probably not be acting on the plane incident, so now it will just be down to Child Services who will be investigating both of them and putting their findings onto the desk of the judge who will decide custody.
I just came here to sat that old dear on the right in the bottom pic gives me life.
She’s saying “Who is dis ladee? pleas tell me who dis ladee is? i want her to go so i do not miss out on ze bold and ze beautiful on in tventy minutes!’
It’s understandable where Brad us coming from and it doesn’t sound like he’s trying to vilify Angelina for her charity work unlike what she is trying to do to Brad. She’s a politician and he just wants joint physical custody of his children.
War torn countries are highly unpredictable even with a security team. There are other ways to expose kids to refugee awareness.
No leaking by either side.
Each has made a statement, all else is fodder and click bait.
There is a ton of leaking, Wasser and Jolie’s camp came out of the gate on Tuesday with leaked stories galore. Wasser in particular is known for this mo – weren’t we all here just months ago with the Depp-Heard divorce? TMZ is getting the majority of it’s stuff from ‘sources’ and leaks.
Lainey – who I trust – has admitted she has a source in/near the Jolie camp who’s talked to her last week. That’s a leak.
This week is Pitt’s turn to leak, as he took longer to hire a team and get his stuff together. Expect a slow but steady line of Jolie stories for the next several days. Nothing brutally terrible or hard-hitting, more subtle and indirect (“He supports Angie’s work just not taking the kids along to danger – she’s a great mom though!”). And expect Angie/Wasser to counter-leak.
I am glad that someone else sees the TMZ connection for what it is. Angelina Jolie is most definitely leaking stories via TMZ. Brad Pitt via People.
I agree. TMZ is in Wassers pocket. This story likely came from Jolie’s side, i.e., he’s a douche for hating on this selfless supporter of refugees. These two obviously aren’t a good match. Brad was drawn in by her world work, but obviously the spell wore off and he’s just a domestic guy.
Oh lord! He’s so concern about children safety that he need to get drunk around his kids. Please brad go to rehab.
That’s a really low move for Brad, I’m just so disappointed in him. A bad mother? Then I assume he should be father of the year. Also I remember all the time he praised her UN work and how ‘amazing’ she was.
God, why can’t they have a little bit of that respect for each other left?
I think this is a leak from AJ’s team to further tar & feather Brad. Geez…I never thought it would come to this between these two.
do you have a proof ?
What can possibly be proved at this point? We’re all just speculating.
WTF? If this is really from Brad Pitt’s team, whoever is advising him is doing a terrible job and should be fired. Then again, he’s probably utterly clueless because he’s so used to Angelina handling all their PR, and she’s a media image master. A media mage!
On another note, 2016 really seems to be the year of mediocre but hot (I guess) white celeb men being knocked off their pedestal by their own dumbassery being brought to light. Between that and all the celeb deaths, this has been a strange year entertainment & gossip wise.
For him to attack her for her humanitarian work is low but he is a lowlife.
All of a sudden this is a problem because he got busted trying to fight a 15 year old who is much smaller than he is. He knows Angelina will not comment or defend herself so it’s easy for him to make her the bad one. who is the one who hasn’t been on any solo trips with his children? He used to travel with one or 2 and for at least a year paparazzi photos show him with no kids while traveling- could that be because he gets too drunk around them? Even on Father’s Day he was without his kids at some racetrack in France. Also he is the one in counseling but she s the problem..mmmmk
Shame on the pos.
Agree
Didn’t one of Aniston’s friends say he was diabolical in that infamous Vanity Fair interview?
I just want Angelina to extricate herself from this Brangelina bs as quickly and cleanly as she can.
I can also see him appearing on Chelsea Handler’s show in the near future.
Why would Brad appear on the Chelsea Handler show? That woman has said horrible things about his children. I know people are taking sides, Brad and Angelina fans but it’s getting ridiculous. I’m team kids. I don’t believe this BS printed on TMZ and many of the other “sources” used in the media about this couples split. People are making a fortune from this split. They will plant every story in the media, he said vs she said. Hopefully, Brad and Angelina can find a way to have a successful partnership for their kids, because they are what’s important in this situation and not the he said vs she said stories. All of the speculations me feel off, because this is a family.
There is a movie with Juliette Binoche called 1,000 Good Nights. It is about a photojournalist who goes into war torn areas. Her husband objects to her work because of their children. I know it is not the same situation but it displays both sides. For the record I am not supporting either side. I do not know them nor know what goes on in their household.
I just find all of it so out of character from both of them, it makes no sense. They have always been so private about their relationship- never addressing the tabloid tumors- and now this….to what end?
Both are intelligent enough to realize that it can only hurt both their reputations, especially AJ – an ugly mudslinging tabloid divorce hardly helps one get taken seriously in a professional setting. Would she really allow that?
Who knows, the romantic in me hopes they haven’t commented directly because they are working it out behind the scenes- life imitates art – maybe they are having their mr and Mrs. Smith moment 😜
I don’t understand how you’re getting from the article that brad says Angelina is a bad mother when all it says is the kids going to certain locations was an issue between them? it never says he thinks she’s a bad mom. just that they disagree about something.
As a parent, I would not be ok with my child or children going to dangerous war zones. The work she’s doing is so good, that’s not the problem. It’s the danger element.
While the divorce is serious, I find it absurd this story claims Angelina wants to be the top UN official. That is the Secretary General, post currently held by Ban Ki Moon. While I would love to see a woman hold the post next (they have all been men so far), Angelina is far from qualified. Lover her ambition but that is never going to happen. They don’t just let anyone work at the UN. I sat for one of their translation exams a few years ago to see if I could get a job as a translator (I speak 3 out of the 6 main languages of the UN)–the most difficult exam I have ever had to take. I didn’t make the cut but I was still proud of myself for trying.
That’s why his stories are ridiculous. They make no sense.
I don’ t think anyone knows about this family’s lives. THe tabloids are listening to her team and his team sources. This couple was always into their kids; that’s why they had them all.
I hope it is possible that joint custody can be arranged. I hope there is not such thing as one bad parent here. No one is perfect in this mess from what I’ve seen. Best wishes to all and I hope it doesn’t drag on and on and hurt the kids more and more.
Angelina’s team stopped talking when news of her divorce hit the news. She hasn’t said anything and nothing other than the fact that Brad verbally attacked and got physical with Maddox is coming from her. I don’t see any negative stuff about Brad other than what he admitted to. Her sources version was nowhere near as bad as Brad’s . A source close to her even says he wasn’t drunk and his drinking is not an issue for her but Brad is very mad that she dare divorce him after he attacked Maddox so he is on a rampage attacking her in the press with stupid stories that make no sense like she wants to be the next Diana and wants to live in England. Err, he pretty much works in England on every movie so what’s the big deal? The lowlife is very lame.
I find it sad to read these stories. If they aren’t true then shame on the media, if they are true it’s sad for the family.
I’m still hoping these two will patch things up.
I don’t believe this. Disappointed that anything was said about the children. This is not in their best interest.
Her mother froze people out and now Angelina is doing the same thing. Sad! My understanding is that she is hell bent on moving to Europe and becoming the “next” Diana. There will never be another Diana, and her attempt at doing so would speak volumes about her.
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Focus on your six children, Angie…. You adopted them and gave birth to them. Time to put them first!
That sounds like another stupid story from Brad for his gullible fans. Even worse than the one where he says she wants to be the leader of the UN. Did you even read how lame that sounds? She wants to be the next Diana? Seriously! Angelina did not force Brad to verbally abuse and get physical with Maddox. He did that all on his own and now ANGELINA AND KIDS HAVE TO DEAL WITH CPS because of daddy dearest actions.
Is Brad Pitt ever allowed to take responsibility for his own actions?
I don’t think it is even from Brad. At this point a lot of fiction is written, and some, like this one, is so numbingly dumb, but I guess some people will still believe in it.
@YesISaidIt…. Seriously! Do you realize how foolish you sound repeating the BS that Brad, “verbally abuse and get physical with Maddox. He did that all on his own and now ANGELINA AND KIDS HAVE TO DEAL WITH CPS because of daddy dearest actions”. Were you present when all this so called “abuse” happened?
Goo, in Brad side of the story he says he was nose to nose and put hands on him. So we shouldn’t believe his side of the story when it pretty much matches up with what sources were saying in the beginning? In the beginning sources close to the situation said Brad was verbally abusive and it got physical. Hello!!! It was bad enough for a person not related to the family to call CPS.
Brad side of the story made him look like a complete freak.
I imagine Angelina is quite content with just being herself. I very much doubt she’s expending any energy trying to turn herself in to the next ‘Diana’. Besides, I thought the tabs said she was trying to be Mother Theresa. So which is it?
Probably both…
Rofl. Yep. She is gunning to be the ‘next’ princess di…while miraculously taking over the UN *and* the house of lords, juggling her baroness lover with prince Andrew and I coulda swore I heard she is after quuen Elizabeth too (yes Angelina wants to be quuen of England too, should be a shoe in after running the un and house of lords). Meanwhile Brad has knocked up Marion and ntalie Portman and quite likely Selena gomez, nevermind the sextuplets jen aniston has on ice in a fertility clinic, he also does non specific hard drugs off Russian hookers…
In the meantime each has dropped a simple statement: hers is that a delicate situation involving anger and alcohol has led to a divorce, and the health of the kids is uppermost. His is that he is saddened and the health of the kids is uppermost.
By next week she will have a dozen more lovers lined up, political ambitions to take over Mars and uranus, and Brad will be crying gently and quietly into his near beer over being had by the world’s greatest manipulator ™.
Lol! Thank you for this!
best comment ever
maybe she became too serious (no more fun, all her energy is concentrated on her children and her work) and now brad is bored.
I think it’s more likely she’s bored with him. She is a very intelligent woman and he comes across as more of a lightweight.
Brad doesn’t want their kids to go to Syria? The nerve!
How DARE he!
The sources for this story supposedly spoke to TMZ, which has already thrown their support behind Angelina. It doesn’t seem remotely plausible that he’d make an issue of this, especially now. Even if he was caught unawares of the divorce filing, he has very, very good people in place. This is a story that would never get planted, unless someone wanted to make him look worse than he already looks.
Do you really believe that all stories are planted? I can write stuff like that.
Tmz, had connections to Angelina in the beginning after that it’s all been for Brad even using decades old pictures of him.
I don’t think this is some masterful Machiavellian plant from AJ to make Brad look bad.
First, it makes her look bad too. Obsessed with becoming “Head of the UN”? lol. Callously exposing her children to danger? Not a great look.
Second, I think the statements from Team Pitt about the plane incident show his peeps aren’t the sharpest knives in the drawer. He said he didn’t hit Maddox “in the face” (implying he may have hit him somewhere else) and admitted he manhandled the kid. He also admitted being drunk (or rather “a little inebriated”) in front of his family. So that story didn’t exactly make Brad look good either. (Although it’s interesting how the public seems to be sympathizing with him over Angelina everywhere except here.)
Maybe Brad’s dippy brother is speaking for Team Pitt? Maybe it’s all made up. But I don’t buy that Evil Manipulative Angelina is planting fake stories from “Team Pitt” to make him look bad.
It’s amazing to me how quickly people are willing to believe the woman is a master manipulator almost at “Gone Girl” levels of evil machinations. Jennifer Garner, Amber Heard, Angelina Jolie, even Jennifer Aniston has been given this label. Why is that? I’m trying to think of a MALE celebrity that has been painted this way and I’m coming up empty. Hell I think this is part of the reason Hillary Clinton is labelled a big fat liar while Donald Trump gets a free pass for his insane number of falsehoods. People see her as shady even though she lies far less than he does. I really think there’s a gender bias at play here.
Sad for the children and I truly feel terrible for all involved. It’s a shame.
I think angelina’s breaking point wasn’t necessarily brad’s behavior on the plane, but the fact that their fights together had gotten so bad that their son felt he had to step in to stop it? And that was the final straw. That’s what she meant “for the health of her family”?
I also think that after the incident Brad didn’t take the responsibility for what had happened and showed remorse. I think she thought that if he did not feel the severity of the situation, the kids were not, at the moment, safe with him alone.
The story on Page Six about her hiring a PI … It just occurs to me that she may have done so but it was about the drugs and drinking she wanted to document as she moves to get physical custody. Would she put that out there without receipts? Maybe not, it was a thought.
This sounds ridiculous. I don’t think he’d actually say this, even if only because it’s such a bad move to criticize humanitarian efforts, many of which he has been a part. Are we sure this wasn’t info wasn’t planted by someone else?
Yeah, this smacks of the tabloids blowing things out of proportion. it’s completely understandable that Brad would object to his kids going to dangerous countries and it’s completely understandable that Angelina wants her kids to see what their own charity foundations do in the real world. It’s not like this is a direct quote or even a statement he released. It’s not from official court documents.
The only reliable sources are direct statements and the contents of their legal documents. It would be one thing if there was something in the legal documents stating Brad thought Angelina was endangering the children, but that’s not the case. Yet.
I hope they’re not actually playing dirty and it’s all a media narrative but who knows. I feel awful for the kids and for Angelina. I’m not sure how to feel about Brad.
To get ANY job with the UN you need far far more qualifications and experience than Julie has, even if she started her academic studies now and worked her way up the diplomatic ladder she wouldn’t have a hope in hell so I call bullshit on that part of the story. I don’t think she is remotely deluded enough to think she’d have a hope in hell.
As for taking your kids certain places, her work is admirable no doubt however there are absolutely places that no amount of security would make me take kids. I’ve been all over the Middle East and North Africa and travel there frequently. This year I was in the West Bank and Gaza, Iran and Turkey. There is NO WAY IN THE WORLD I would take a kid to Syria, not a chance. I would be very very sketchy about Iraq. I like Jolie and I know she’s essentially sainted in these parts but if she suggested taking her kids to Syria then she (at least in that respect) is either incredibly naive (which is not too much of a stretch, celeb visits to places like this are admirable but they’re made in a total bubble) or she was irresponsible at best.
Syria is at war. Journalists are killed/kidnapped everyday and no amount of security can guarantee their safety so I think it’s irresponsible to take her children to conflict zones. There are many places that she can take the children and teach them about charity and humanity. Princess Diana did the same with her children but she never took them with her when she visited mine fields. I’m on team Brad on this one.