As we already saw with US Weekly’s cover – in which The Villainess Jolie masterminded a plot to destroy Brad Pitt – this week’s tabloids are going to be pretty messy. In Touch Weekly put “WIFE FROM HELL” Villainess on their cover too. And despite the cover promises (“physically attacked Brad!” and “Brad’s secret weapon: her psych records!”), the cover story excerpt being released thus far is pretty mundane. Meaning… I actually think In Touch had a decent scoop about the investigation into Brad’s actions on the plane, but In Touch decided to go with the most scandalizing cover lines ever.
In Touch, the only magazine to reveal details inside Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie’s $400 million divorce days before she filed divorce papers, is now reporting the shocking details inside Brad’s child abuse investigation. The weekend of Sept. 17 the Department of Children and Family Services showed up at Brad Pitt’s door. DCFS had received a disturbing anonymous call alleging that a drunken Brad had gotten physical with his eldest son on a flight from France to LA as the plane stopped to refuel at Minnesota’s Falls International Airport on Sept. 14.
A source with knowledge of the investigation exclusively reveals, “Brad admitted to being drunk and losing his temper, but that’s it. He even took a urine drug test on the spot.”
During his intense interview with DCFS, Brad made it clear he is no abuser. His attempt to control the kids turned into an ugly scene but there were no punches thrown. The source adds that Brad “was extremely remorseful about the entire situation.”
Brad’s wife, Angelina Jolie, wasn’t at the house during the interview because she had taken Maddox, 15, Pax, 12, Zahara, 11, Shiloh, 10, and twins Knox and Vivienne, 8, and moved them away from their father and into a nearby rental property with her.
But In Touch has exclusively learned DCFS contacted her as well. Angelina, the family’s four nannies and the kids were interviewed by DCFS after the melee. (They were all interviewed individually.)
“Angie said Brad loses his temper with the kids a lot and that there is drinking and drug use,” explains the source with knowledge of the investigation, adding that unlike Brad, 52 — who wasn’t permitted to see his children during the early days of the DCFS inquiry — Angie, 41, was not asked to submit to drug testing.
“The younger kids — Zahara, Shiloh and the twins — all told DCFS they missed their dad. Maddox and Pax didn’t express that sentiment and seem to think they are tasked with being their mother’s protector.”
Good scoop or just a good assumption of what it’s like to be investigated by DCFS? The reason I believe this – God help me – is because I sort of assume this dynamic is probably dead-on about how the kids feel. Even according to “Brad’s story” as told to People Magazine, Maddox was the one who got in between Brad and Angelina when Brad was getting in Angelina’s face on the plane. Maddox is the oldest, and Pax is the second-oldest son. They probably do feel like they need to “protect” their mom. And it’s not like they’re being “tasked” with it either. I would argue that it’s pretty common for sons – especially the oldest sons in a large family – to feel like it’s their responsibility to look after their mom, especially if they’re used to seeing dad scream at mom.
Photos courtesy of WENN, cover courtesy of In Touch Weekly.
Good Lord, this is going to get so messy……
Yep. So sad.
Yeah they probably wouldn’t miss their dad if they’re old enough to bear the brunt of his anger he probably isn’t as tough on the younger kids. I used to find ‘evil Angie’ covers hilarious not so much anymore.
I also think this whole divorce situation, if it shows anything at all, shows that Angelina left Brad because she knows that her first job is to protect her children.
That’s positing that Brad is dangerous to their children. I doubt that.
Both my boys are very protective of me. I think that’s pretty normal, I seriously doubt she ‘tasks’ her boys with it rme
My son is protective of me as well and he is only 4 years old.
My son is protective of me as well, but it shouldn’t be his job. And I tell him that. If I’m ever in an argument with his dad, he is not to get involved. Children do have their place and adults should be able to have adult conversations that children cannot understand or process.
None of us know what happened here. Obviously, if things started to get physical, Maddox might’ve felt the need to jump in to protect his mother. Otherwise, I feel he should have stayed out of it.
I agree with you. As a mother, my job is to protect my kids, even from themselves if they get involved with something they shouldn’t get involved in. Such as an argument I am having with my husband.
I’m the adults, they are the children and they need to be kids and not a Knight in Shining Armor.
Angie is a grown woman more than capable of taking care of herself, and I’m sure having her boys step up because they were scared for her, if they did, was one of the things that made her think about leaving. To have your kids think that as an adult woman you cannot handle your business, that’s rough.
Girls can be like that too though, I know I was very protective of anyone I deemed of ‘being in distress’, even as a kid. Telling my father as a preteen to ‘yell at me if he needed to take it out on someone who didn’t deserve it’ instead of my sensitive and sweet brother changed things. I think that was the last time he lost his temper like that, and definitely the last time he raised his voice at us for no reason.
My father never got physical, and didn’t have substance abuse issues, so it was much safer and easier for me to do that. I totally get wanting to take the brunt of it when someone you love is being hurt or degraded though, even if it is a parent.
I think encouraging kids to protect those who may be hurt or unable to protect themselves is a wonderful way to teach empathy, but I guess it could be dangerous as well.
It seems very normal to me, too. And it makes sense that the younger children wouldn’t have been as exposed to any potential anger issues that Brad has.
My daughter is this way. She walked in on my SO and I having a heated discussion–when she was almost 5–and she literally physically attacked him, screaming. It was so surprising to me and such a challenge to handle as a parent.
Oh, @Embee, your daughter breaks my heart. That must have been so rough. But for her to have that instinct at age five is utterly amazing; she has such a protective and fierce spirit.
My two year old has been pretend-playing with emotions lately – e.g., she tells me to cry, so I fake-cry, which she finds delightful, and then she’ll comfort me with a pat on the arm or a hug. If she were to intervene in the middle of a real argument I was having with my husband, I would break down completely. Kids pick up on and know so much even when they’re quite little.
Your baby is actively practicing empathy?!?!? That’s so incredibly heartwarming. I’m not a person who revered motherhood (still don’t) but for me, it has been an amazing lesson about the inherent compassion and love capable of our species. To watch these tiny humans demonstrate love and care makes me hopeful for the grown ups.
I hope I taught my kid that (1) she and I are safe, (2) conflict happens and can happen safely, and (3) my conflict is not hers to own or resolve. But who knows?
Agreed.
Every outlet should stop reporting on and speculating about the thoughts and motivations of the children (sorry, Kaiser). If we don’t want parents visiting harm on children, we shouldn’t be doing it either. Making them the focal points of gossip does them harm. Simple as.
Fair game on the adults. Not the children.
Couldn’t agree more!
These rumors can stay on the web forever. I’m also out of this one for that reason — because of what those kids can read, now or later, about their family during a very stressful time.
Totally agree, it’s well out of order.
Agreed, plus whoever is leaking info from DCF needs to be fired. I work in the child dependency system and that’s absolutely a fireable offense. Privacy is a huge deal and we’re prohibited from speaking to the press or anyone else about a case. High profile cases are watched extremely carefully too.
I don’t think anyone is leaking anything, they are just writing fiction.
Do you think DCFS employees are really leaking anything? Would the magazine print it if maybe it was an anonymous source claiming to work there, just because they can? Or do you think even gossip magazines would require some kind of proof like seeing that the person does at least work there before accepting them as a source? I’m just curious how that works. It seems like the way it’s written here also leaves open the possibility that the source is a family friend whose info comes from the family, not a source from DCFS.
I agree. They are kids, they are in a tough situation, and they didn’t choose to be public figures.
I also agree with Amadea that this is likely the tabloids making stuff up to fit their narrative, not an actual leak from CPS. At least I would hope not.
I am with you Sixer- leave the kids out of it. Especially since most seem to agree (me included) that this story is just grabbing at the air for the tabloids and not of any real substance. If details come out about him physically abusing the kids then I expect that to be a story but I don’t think reporting on how the kids are feeling, whose ‘side’ they are on, what they are doing, etc is cool. I think we should focus on the adults and leave anything personal about the kids out.
+1
This is the main reason I’m trying to stay away from these stories. Going through your parents’ divorce at that age is really stressful. All the gossiping around my parents’ divorce made everyone in my family really angry, even more than we normally would in a situation like this. And we just got that from gossipy moms at my school. These kids’ parents’ divorce is, literally, entertainment for the whole world to consume and comment on.
I would trade lives with those kids in a heartbeat, but not right now. Right now my normal middle class life looks more appealing than ever.
Yes, agreed.
Out of Touch Weekly strikes again..
Don’t you mean Brad sources strikes again.
Oh, yes! He’s trying to distract from the fact that his violent temper is what caused all this.
Between this and the reaction to the debates, I can’t handle anymore blatant sexism.
He is obviously at the defence. I don’t think he is attacking her though. That would be a terrible move. Angie the Villain is something that no one buys anymore.
Many, many people believe Angelina is the eternal villainess. Evident on these threads and elsewhere.
I have never liked Angie quite frankly, I think she’s weird – why does that make me a hater or even, dare I say it, a troll? I do believe that she is the most beautiful and photogenic woman in the world, and that makes great photo’s for all her passions. It’s not her aspirations, but rather her ambition that defines her most clearly to me.
I didn’t say anyone who thinks she is a villainess is either a hater or a troll. I take those words seriously, as you’ve no doubt seen in the royal threads.
Merely positing that there are people who will always think she is wrong. (Insert pure speculation for effect) Even if Pitt were to be proven an abusive husband and father, some people would still blame Jolie.
From what I’ve read on the royal threads, I believe that you’re a logical genius, Nota. I also appreciate your integrity. I wonder about you and LAK; so much information, so much class!! -that is, understanding of the “matrix” of human tangles…
I have a hard time believing that Pitt is an abusive husband and father, and I find Angelina’s reaction very harsh: which I admit is subjective. Perhaps it’s all the photo’s they’ve shown us over the years, and then suddenly, Brad is an asshole discarded.
Who are these sources and why are they talking to the press/media? Right now these are just assumptions and not known as factual. This has really gotten ugly. The world most famous superstar couple relationship started out messy and it is ending messy. It makes Jen and Ben pending divorcé look like a walk in the park.
Angie looks great in these pics. She’s still a beautiful woman.
Court of public opinion doesn’t need facts, silly rabbit.
Also, I am a feminist. The sexism in the media gets to me. But the blind defense of women in the comments also gets to me. Some women are evil bitches. Just because someone has a vagina, doesn’t mean they are innocent or the victim.
Thank you.
What are you rambling about silly goose.
I don’t understand what my comment has to do with you being a feminist or that some women are evil bitches. I was only commenting on how all these unnamed sources are running to the media releasing a lot of information about Brad and Angie, factual or not..
I’d say that’s directly in line with feminism.
Feminism doesn’t mean women are always right, or that they aren’t as malicious or awful as men sometimes. It does mean that socially they are more likely to be forced into the role of victim though, and examining the social expectations and common narratives that paint women in that light is important.
One of the biggest indicators of almost-but-not-really understanding feminism is saying things like ‘women are the more enlightened sex, if they were in charge there would be no war’.
@V4Real, it makes almost all divorces look like a cake walk. I can’t remember such a nasty, involve all the children, style divorce.
It’s a shame really.
I feel sorry for Angie. They are attaking her in every possible way .poor lady
It’s awful. I feel sorry for her how she is being dragged in the press, it makes the Amber Heard stuff look like a picnic in comparison 🙁 . I think I’m going to have to stop reading these articles because they are just flat out nasty.
This is sickening. Beyond the usual sexist tripe directed at her (and the demonization of her for being open about her past, which is exactly why she’s so inspiring to so many of us)… they’re actually speculating and publishing the details of the children’s interviews?? And which kids “miss their dad”?!
I get that this is most likely guesswork. No new, valuable facts at all. But we *know* how it affects kids when their private traumas — and confidential statements to adults — are played out and fictionalized on a global stage. If I were Angelina, I’d be beyond livid. Brad should be too.
Thank you. This is outrageously abusive of the children in itself.
I agree. The press have really over stepped the boundaries this time >:( .
Yes! Yes and yes!
I’ve tried before and failed but this is absolutely the last post I’ll click on that involves tabloid speculation about the demise of Brad and Angelina’s relationship. Especially where it involves the children.
+1,000
I wish the press would stop trying to put even more fuel in the fire. It’s hard enough for all the people involved. I feel sad, that the two of them could not work it out. As I understand it, they have been arguing about something for quite a while and it is quite normal that at a certain stage one or more children get involved in the fight. A. Jolie saw this development and pulled a stop. Good on her! I wish the whole family all the best.
I think the only reason she left Brad was because an anonymous person reported him, and if she didn’t leave,, she may have lost the kids also.
Wow…..a strong woman acts decisively against a drunken bully boy and it’s time to raze her to the ground. What a shocker! We didn’t see that one coming….
Who reads these magazines? Women! They are writing what these women want to read, and they want to blame everything on Angelina. I am not surprised, at all – all the tabloid magazine covers always blamed her for anything, so now, multiply this times 1000000!!
internalized misogyny strikes again!
It is all speculation… We will never know the truth.
Another smear from Brads camp. Anyone who thought Angelina was the one who controlled the tabloids into portraying Jennifer aniston the way they did can sthu now. BRAD IS THE ONE WHO USES TABLOIDS TO DESTORY HIS EXES.
Angelina needs to start defending herself for once.
She never did, and I don’t think she will do it this time.
I thought all the tabloids would rip her apart this week, but two of them have come out pro-Brad and the other two are pro-Angie. Interestingly enough, ITW and its sister publication Life&Style have taken opposite sides.
Plus, Brad is away from his kids for months filming , partying and whatever else he does — I doubt they even notice when it’s just a few days.
I doubt that the CPS inquiry to the Children will be public. I always thought that the problem was between Brad and one of the older Boys. If Maddox and Pax don’t want to have any contact with him, I wonder if he wasn’t that prepared to have teenage children. We know how hard teens can be and if he said something offensive to Angelina then their reaction is absolutely normal. No child likes to see a drunk dad yelling or arguing with your mother. The instinct is to immediately protect her.
Is anybody prepared to have teenage children? My mother wasn’t!!!!
Same old same old tabloids never change they will always say Angie is the villain, she was the villain when they got together 10 years ago & she still will be the villain when she decided to leave him, she will never win with the tabloids
These tablids are beyond dispicable. The fact that they are protected from being sued is even more sickening.
I think it’s strange that people are taking such strong stances one side or the other (mostly her side here). It’s entirely possible that BOTH stories are true: Brad has a temper, drinks, and yells, and Angie is using DCYF to get full custody so she can move to London. You don’t have to believe “poor Brad” or that this is an abusive home
Also, it’s pretty obvious that Angie thinks the kids are best off in her care, with her parenting style. However, I don’t think she is worried about the kids’ safety around Brad (no supervised visitation requests, past comments about how he is with the kids), so, imo, they should get joint custody.
Don’t agree she is using DCFS against him. If she was interrogated she has the duty to tell the truth. Agree that they should share custody but if Maddox and Pax don’t want to be with him their will should be respected also.
speculation
What is the point in speculating? The nannies were all interviewed too and the details of what happened on the plane should be clear enough. But, whether or not he can share custody will not come down to one event, at a time of stress, providing there was no violence involved. If Joile’s version of yelling and being aggressive towards the children is Brad’s version of curbing poor behavior and being assertive, then it will come out in the interviews. and, just in case, they can go back and interview past nannies who might have been let go because they didn’t agree with the person who did the hiring and firing. So I am waiting to see what conclusion the experts come to before deciding who, if anyone, is a bad parent. I do however think Jolie was unnecessarily aggressive in the way she filed for divorce and this should all have been settled privately before filing, exactly in the way that Laura Wasser claims she advocates to all her clients. I am not fool enough to believe that some or most of the sources are not direct from Pitt and Jolie, but with this s**t storm it is impossible to know which is and which isn’t and they will not be able to control it. This is all about PR and/or anger for both of them and will have no impact on the decision of Child Services and the family court, but it really will hurt the children.
PS Getting or claiming to have details of an official investigation is disgusting.
I hope they figure out a way to shut this down soon, before this becomes the ugliest divorce/custody fight of the century. Poor kids.
They can’t shut down tabloid stories. They will continue to print stories claiming to be close friends or family. Brad, Angelina, and their reps have not spoken about this situation since less week. Yet people act like these tabloid stories know what’s up. Actually, Brad did say something about a family situation but that’s it.
The Macho culture, again.
Pope Francis go home, Pope Brad is coming.
Lmao
I always thought the Saint Angelina thing was so lame because Brad is the one with the saintly image. Oh he’s so perfect , isn’t he? That’s why Jennifer Anniston fans had such a hard time getting over that one because of his image.
I always knew it was a pile of horsepoop.
I still really wish they would patch things up. What is wrong with them???
I know! Brangelina looked happy to me for all those years. Were they just hiding their pain and misery, the constant fighting, the substance abuse, etc? I guess it helps being actors, when your day job is basically “pretending in public,” but still… was it really so awful for so long? Irreconcilable. Makes me sad. Guess you just never know what goes on behind closed doors.
They were happy until they stopped being happy. Simple. There was no “constant fighting and substance abuse” and if there was, they were both OK with it for a while. I really feel that Angelina’s health and her surgeries played a big part in her changing her outlook. When the last surgery threw her into menopause, she stopped having sexual interest in Brad (surgical menopause will do it to you) and that opened her eyes to the fact that not all was great in their relationship. They just stopped having the same goals and there was no great sexual attraction anymore to make up for what was lacking. No common ground except the kids. But they should have divorced amicably and without the acrimony. Brad supported her throughout her surgeries and health problems, without fail. I don’t think he’s the devil she’s painting him to be.
Minxx, that is complete speculation on your part.
She’s not painting him as the devil. He had some kind of drunken outburst on the plain and got physical with one of his children. We know because *he admitted it.” She referred only to something that resulted in her decisive action “for the health of the family.” That’s not condemning; it was pretty damn gracious given the circumstances.
Someone will eventually publish story of how Brad was abusive to Jen.
This story is being made up; not that they could be getting a few of the facts correctly.
The younger kids miss their dad – this broke my heart 🙁
Find it hard to believe since they hardly ever see him. When a dad is absent most of the time the children start losing respect.
Not necessarily. They probably ordinarily keep in good contact with Skype and such, and they were with each other recently. Because of the investigation, they might not have been able to talk with him and that would be a change that the younger kids don’t like.
Kids don’t lose respect for an absent parent unless the relationship was rocky to begin with. His older kids might be ticked with him at the moment, but stuff happens between teens and parents and the feelings can change rapidly. Being apart delays reconciliation, so things may change once they’re in contact again.
I hope none of this about the children is true. It’s horribly dysfunctional.
Poor kids! That’s all I’m going to say.
Only thing that I feel is it is one thing to “bolt” the way she did with her kids…but it does seem to me that she told him on the plane she wanted a divorce knowing that any kind of yelling/incident in international airspace becomes the jurisdiction of the FBI. It was over awhile ago for her…when someone freezes you out ..you begin to truly act out of fear and despair.
Problem is what kind of message does it give your children (who have four nannies by the way) if..when “Dad blows his stack you call the Feds, get rid of Dad, move away and order lots of pizza and block all his calls.” What happens when the teenage boys get into messes of their own as young adults. Are they going to really do the right thing or use their power, money and influence to deal with it like their mother dealt with their dad. I think it sends kids a terrible message.
Huh? Well that’s an elaborate scheme. No kids called the Feds; Child & Family Services is not “the Feds” anyway. A third party reported the incident – appropriately and as instructed by law, by the way. Also, presuming Pitt acted “out of fear and despair” – so that explains why he drank around his 6 kids and got aggressive?
So glad she has the power, money and influence to remove them from this kind of situation. Most women don’t.
Our culture has a terrible problem with women have power, money and influence.
I thought the person reporting the incident didn’t give their name, so it could have been anyone on the plane or at the airport.
I don’t even understand the four nannies line. Are you judging her for it but not him? Can you elaborate what that has to do with what happened?
Lainey has quotes from inside us weekly and allegedly there is video footage of Brad acting like an a**, being physical and damaging the plane. Angelina had no choice but to leave the sniveling little “victim”.
or Maddox resents Brad just for taking his mama away and Pax is influenced by his coooler older broham
They just had have her this way. Lol
She will be OK imo..Hope they find peace.
All these tabloid stories about Angie have been told hundreds of times on tabloid covers ,nothing is new.I bet most of these tabloids have simply looked at back issues and copy and pasted most of the article.The tabloids have been calling her evil,violent,crazy,etc for the last 11 years.
Same Sh##,Different Day
Not a fan of either but I hope they resolve this quickly. She went all out on him when she should have just done a quiet divorce and made him to go rehab. They look like the beautiful people they’re supposed to be in that last pic and AJ looks amazing in the shade of blue and minimal makeup.
Yeah, she should have made him go to rehab like she made him attack her kid. 🙄
She can’t make him go to rehab. He’s over 18…
I’m so freaking tired of those magazine’s titles about Angelina being the villain and Brad being the crying victim.. enough.
If Brad took a urine test, I’m sure he knew it was coming and cleaned himself up..easy to do with products especially for it..
Kids protect their mom period. I bet even the little ones feel this way.
It is a major disrespecting and blurring of proper boundaries for children to be tasked with or to feel like it is their responsibility to “protect” a parent. This is a classic sign of an unhealthy, narcissistic family system. Angelina should make it clear to her sons that they are still children and it is her job to take care of them not their job to take care of her. That is how healthy families operate – the emotional needs of the parents’ must take a back seat to the emotional needs of the children. If it isn’t working that way surely she has money to bring in proper professional help to put the boundaries and generations back into proper order and relations to one another.