How much evidence do we need that Nate Parker is a garbage human being? I think most of us realized it when we read (or even skimmed) the transcripts from his rape trial back in the 1990s. But we definitely know he’s awful nowadays by how badly he’s handled his press commitments around the promotion of The Birth of a Nation, the film he co-wrote with Jean Celestin (who was initially convicted of rape while Parker was found not-guilty). Parker also stars in the film, he directed it and produced it. And you know what? This film isn’t going to be nominated for anything. That’s because Nate Parker is awful. As I previewed last Friday, Parker sat down for an interview with Anderson Cooper on Sunday night’s 60 Minutes. To say that Parker comes across as an ice-cold psychopath would be an understatement. You can see CBS’s coverage here (I’m including the video at the end of the post). Here are some of Parker’s comments:
Whether Parker feels guilty about anything that happened that night: “I don’t feel guilty.”
Learning a few months ago that his alleged victim committed suicide: “I had no idea. I had absolutely no idea. I found out in the news….I was devastated. It was shocking. You know, I couldn’t believe it.”
He hasn’t apologized to his alleged victim’s family: “I’ll say this, you know, I do think it’s tragic, so much of what’s happened. And the fact that the family’s had to endure with respect to this woman not being here. But I do– I also think that– you know, and I don’t want to harp on this and I don’t want to be disrespectful of them at all. You know, but, you know, at some point I have to say it. You know, I was falsely accused. You know, I went to court. And I sat in trial. You know, I was vinc– I was– I was vindicated. I was proven innocent. I was vindicated. And I feel terrible that this woman isn’t here. You know, I feel terrible that, you know, her family had to deal with that. But as I sit here, an apology is– no.The film’s posters being vandalized with the word ‘rapist’: “I didn’t see. I didn’t see any of those. Of course, I heard. I don’t want to make myself the victim, you know, to– to– it’s– you have to fight back the instinct to defend yourself. You know—um, you just gotta take it.
Whether it was a mistake to work with Jean Celestin: “I don’t think so at all, the reality is Jean went to jail for something he did not do so when it came time to write this story, I said, “Well, you want to help with this?”Whether Parker was surprised by the criticism of his association with Celestin: “Yes.”
Once again, after the initial backlash of how Parker “told his side of the story,” he took a step back and tried to say some words about what he’s learned about toxic masculinity and consent and more. It was a valiant effort that lasted maybe a week. But this 60 Minutes interview? This is the same Parker who used his children as human shields to fend off criticism. This is the same Parker who stalked and harassed his alleged victim at Penn State. Parker says that he was “vindicated”… but he can’t say the same about Jean Celestin, who was actually found guilty of rape, but it’s cool, you guys, because Nate Parker knows Celestin went to jail “for something he did not do.” Vindication!
Photos courtesy of Fame/Flynet.
Does he stand on a curb on Tuesdays to be the best Garbage Bag he can be?
Omg QQ I choked on my Earl Grey when I read that!
Honestly, what a piece of sh*t this guy is. I believe he has no remorse of what he has done to that poor woman. Perhaps, his only regret is that the public has found out and is condemning his actions.
I read the article written by his victim’s sister and I felt terrible. His victim had come from a difficult background and had gotten a scholarship to university – an opportunity to build a better life for herself. And then this monster comes into her life and wrecks it. Ugh. Boycott this rapist and his movie!
Piece of shit was what come across my mind as well. The amount of stammering and ‘you knows’ are truth revealing to me. I feel like he went from being so wholeheartedly sorry when this whole tradity came to light, to now taking a denial, I was vindicated arrogant stance when the first attempt to kill the story failed. Boo to you and your movie.
“now taking a denial, I was vindicated arrogant stance when the first attempt to kill the story failed”
Exactly. You can see his frustration mounting with every interview. He thought it would go away, but the questions persist.
Sooo mean–all of you. Can’t you just let the poor dude forget that he raped, stalked, harassed, and eventually drove his victim to suicide? He just wants to move on but everybody is making it SO. HARD. for him.
*Sad rapist tears*
Semantics seems to be his strong point. He’s a wordsmith, he plays with words to dance around the fire. He says everything “but”, and it’s insulting, cocky even.
Damn shame that of all those beautifully, carefully strung together sentiments, the word “consent” tripped him up.
He never did. It’s becoming increasingly obvious every time he opens his mouth. At the very beginning I had a small hope that he really was remorseful, that he realized the wrong he had done, but no, he’s only sorry he got caught and that people won’t drop it.
He’s struggling to even say the right things now. You know, he like totally didn’t do anything wrong, you know, and he’s devastated, you know, that this woman’s family is like missing her now, but you know, he’s like so innocent and vindicated now, you know, so like we’re done here right?
What he fails to understand is that just because he was found not guilty does not mean he is innocent. The truth is that he did have sex with a woman who was knocked out. That is rape. Simple. He raped that woman and he got off because he had a better lawyer. Does not and will never mean that him not guilty.
Honestly whenever he opens his mouth, I just want to punch him in the nuts.
Feel free – I’ll hold your coat…
He really should be forced to see the docu Audrie and Daisy. Maybe that would give him perspective and also a warning about his own little girls.
He’s so pissed that his chicken came home to roost at the exact moment his movie comes out. Sorry dude, Karma’s a bitch sometimes.
I’m still waiting for him to say the words “I didn’t do it”. He says a lot but these seem to escape him somehow. “I was found innocent” is not the same, and consciously or not, he knows it.
truth.
and how many GD times can he say “you know…”. no, we DON’T KNOW. what we DO know is that you’re a rapist, a pimp, (since you offered that poor young woman to other men) and a total piece of excrement.
Xo doofus. Thanks for the comment on the other post.
This guy is trash. He’s ignorant in the worst way as in he simply doesn’t want to see. He truly does NOT WANT TO SEE. He didn’t want to see back in the 90s and he sure as hell isnt taking the blinders off in 2016.
I want to kick him in the nuts and I never ever ever resort to physical threats. Hmmm. Maybe just spit in his face.
XO right back atcha.
and kicking him in the nuts is ok. then spit on him while he’s writhing on the ground. when you’re done, I’ll be next in line.
OMG QQ, nailed it!!
I didn’t think he could stoop any low!!
@Little Darling
I do want to kick him in his nuts until he hurts so badly. I must be a garbage bag too…
QQ I love you and your way with words. Never change.
Speaking of curb? Is it wrong that I want to curb stomp his face every time I see it? I swear I’m not a violent person but Jaysus Fracking Kerist does he vex my soul.
He just burns me in the inside- I see his face and my blood boils. I feel so terrible for this young woman- one life she had and she got a scholarship and timed out of foster care and then he came along……He represents to me toxic & violent masculinity as he stated and that has hurt me and my loved ones so much. I probably feel for him as he feels for slave owners in his movie- at least the one who raped. I know it’s different, but I find it so ironic that this man was supposed to be a speaker for the history of rising up against violent oppression and he is the perpetrator of a particular violence to a whole group- and one that was accepted by society for a while, even had laws condoning it but it.was.not.okay. Slave owners would have been ‘vindicated’ for violence against slaves. Doesn’t change the fact that it was not okay Nate. Read your own sh!t.
This man represents oppression of an entire group and the fact that we may think we have laws protecting us but sh!t needs to change. He was ‘vindicated’ after raping her and inviting his friends because our society condones rape & apologizes for young men. Hopefully Nate Parker can make us as angry and motivated as Nat Turner was for the violence done to his people- and the complete lack of accountability for it. Especially by revictimizing her, her family and all of us by now denying it and saying that women who get raped are responsible.
Woops- I came to say that even though he burns me thank you for making me laugh. I didn’t know I could chuckle on a Nate Parker thread and it’s because we are not alone……I hope he becomes the poster child for rapists & fighting against them. And for justice after a victim comes forward.
its obvious that he feels he is the victim, which makes me choke with silent rage.
QQ, I volunteer to drive the garbage truck. I want to trigger that crushing mechanism on this human waste and his rapist pals.
OJ was found not guilty too.
I just can’t with this guy.
Me either & I can’t watch the interview. I will have a heart attack.
So anyone who watched- did they do a good job? Did they give her side and talk about the stalking and did he look like the psycho he is?
I can’t watch it either. All I can think of is her fear as he raped, then stalked and harassed her. Her fear was obviously overwhelming if she decided that death was better.
The 60 Minutes piece was a puff piece that wasn’t originally going to discuss the rape case at all until the story blew up and their segment became unusable. Nate Parker came back for a follow-up interview, and Anderson Cooper didn’t press him at all. It was a puff piece that NP completely botched.
MC2 – Agree with your longer post one above and my blood is boiling and beyond. And after watching the Anderson Cooper’s interview/s (it is 2 interviews combined) I am struggling with so much anger at his sociopathic responses. His denial of guilt and his disconnect with his actions is really underscored by his words describing his perception of what motivated Nat Turner. When he says, “take up arms with your oppressors” all I can envision is his victim taking up Nat Turner’s sword and slicing him through … and every male that has victimized, raped and oppressed women and children on this planet.
Nope, like others said, 60 minutes was a puff interview that didn’t follow up or question any of the issues of rape technicalities, stalking, plus his and his gangrapist co-writer’s addition of TWO rapes in the film to propel ‘hero-drama’ narrative (Nat Turner’s wife and another woman, Union’s character).
Everyone read the beautifully intelligent writing in New Yorker reviewing the film & Nate Parker’s actions: ‘Birth of a Nation Isn’t Worth Defending’ – It’s literate review and shows all the problems with the film & Parkers storytelling. https://www.google.com.hk/amp/www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/10/10/the-birth-of-a-nation-isnt-worth-defending/amp?client=safari
IMO, he’s another controlling, narcissistic preaching predator who wants to peddle his brand.
Was hoping he actually meant his earlier more remorseful interviews but now see these last interviews are who he really is. Just a horrible human being who has no empathy for what he did to that poor girl. She was just a meaningless object to him, not even a human being. I’ve heard of athletes saying those things about their groupies but as sick as those words seem, Nate Parker is in a category of his own-a true sociopath which is so freakin’ scary.
He should have gone to prison for years. That girl would still be alive if he had and shame on the school administration for not protecting her from being stalked simply because Nate was a star athlete. Sad all around. May she rest in peace.
The only thing he proved is what a big flaming douche he is. I wouldn’t watch that movie if I was on fire and he had the last glass of water on earth.
Ditto.
And you can’t be proven innocent in the US. Not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt =/= innocence!
Thank YOU! He goes on about he was exonerated. Ummm. NOPE.
EXONERATION happens when a person was convicted of a crime and is later proved to be innocent. This is different than being ACQUITED at a trial (there was no finding of guilt to begin with, and not determination that you are actually innocent…just that the state was unable to prove beyone a reasonable doubt that you were guilty).
Technically if you are tried and are not found guilty, you are deemed acquitted of the charges, not innocent. Exonerated people are actually found innocent (there is evidence that they did not commit the crime, rather than just a lack of evidence to convict as in most criminal trials).
Thanks you guys. I was coming down here to say he wasn’t proven innocent. The jury had reasonable doubt as to his guilt, which is a lot different than innocent.
THIS, thank you. It’s been bothering me every time I read this sh!t. You were not proven innocent, you disgusting piece of refuse. Not guilty is a hell of a lot different than innocent.
The judge on the case specifically said that Nate did not rape her because he had implied consent because she had willingly given him oral sex the night before. Therefore she had consented to sex the day before and implied consent from then on. Nate should really say what his f-ing defense was and it was not exoneration. Nate’s honest to god legal defense was that once a girl gives you a bj then you can do whatever you want with her. And it worked.
Yes, that bothered me too. Not guilty does not equal proven innocent.
And from what I’ve read, the only reason he wasn’t convicted is he had a previous encounter with the woman – which is wrong on so many levels of course. But it’s not like it was proven that he wasn’t there or anything. He did the crime, he just away with it. That’s not being “proven innocent”.
Bullshit.
Did anyone see him on GMA this morning? He essentially refused to answer Robin’s questions about this. He was very patronizing and condescending to her, in my opinion. I didn’t get nice vibes from him at all.
That’s the “rapist mentality” talking. If there’s anything his behaviour/denial has proven, it’s that he has the mindset of a rapist.
So this is what he ended up with, huh? It’s interesting how in the same interview he can say that because he was declared “not guilty” it means he didn’t do it and didn’t do anything wrong he needs to apologize for…but his friend WAS found guilty for something he didn’t do? So in his case we should blindly believe justice was served, but not for his friend? That works out very conveniently for Nate Parker.
+1000000
Exactly!
What an idiot!
This.
Exactly, Emily!
I gotta go back to my roots and quote Trae Crowder on this one: This m-therf-cker here, y’all.
I just can’t with his bullshit. I can’t with his smug, “vindicated” face. It makes me physically ill to look at it. He is an insult to every single survivor of assault and to, the very, very very RARE victims of false accusations (sorry not sorry MRAs, VERY few woman are willing to put themselves through the hell of reporting sexual assault or rape for any reason other than because it’s the g-d truth. It’s rarer than pink ponies and unicorns.)
Xoxo LL. Read you on the other post. With you girl. I appreciate your share as well as everyone else. What a group here! So much love and support.
Might I add: he wasn’t vindicated!!! He’s not even gripping vocabulary right.
I thought it was an odd word choice too because he absolutely was not vindicated. That word, I don’t think it means what he thinks it means.
Right back at you LL! This group is amazing, and everyone has had basically the same reaction to this piece of trash. To the curb!
“It makes me physically ill to look at it. He is an insult to every single survivor of assault and to, the very, very very RARE victims of false accusations (sorry not sorry MRAs, VERY few woman are willing to put themselves through the hell of reporting sexual assault or rape for any reason other than because it’s the g-d truth. It’s rarer than pink ponies and unicorns.)”
This should be inscribed in stone for future reference and later generations.
Xo to you too Silverunicorn, saw your share on the other thread. <3
Every time I see an ad for this movie on TV, I want to hurl. At least he’s alive to complain about how poorly he’s been treated🙄. And “proven innocent”? Good grief-it’s found “not guilty”- not exactly the same thing.
“you have to fight back the instinct to defend yourself. You know—um, you just gotta take it.” So, when he is doing so, it is alright and sort of defense mechanism. If rape victims act this way to survive – it’s called consent? I know, he didn’t even try to say that and I took this quote out of context, but still… This quote just jumped right at me.
Just because his victim didn’t fight him or his buddy off, doesn’t mean she gave consent. But that might be to hard of concept for him to understand.
Being unconscious means consent to him, ok.
It actually made my stomach roll reading those two lines. I just- honestly, I don’t know if his subconscious is talking or if he thinks he’s being slick with that wording but I had to hold back a gag reading it. NOT hyperbole- for real gag due to my stomach rolling.
In a previous interview he flat out said that the woman has to literally push him off for him to take that as a “no” and that is the ONLY thing that means “no” to him. Unconscious? That’s a yes. Too scared to react? That’s a yes too.
Such an odious man, made worse by the fact that you know he’s far from alone in his way of thinking.
Freudian slip.
I saw the movie trailer and really wish I could get past this guy’s arrogance to see it because it looks great. But he is so clueless about his behavior and its ramifications, I just can’t.
Apparently it’s really not that great. People confuse a powerful story with a great movie. A lot of reviews are saying it is a decent first (and hopefully last *cough*) movie for a director but really nothing that special.
Yeah, even at first all the reviews were saying it was an amazing story…but just an ok movie. People keep saying it has a great RT score, but all RT ratings tell you is how many reviewers found the film ‘fresh’. Fresh basically means average and above. Almost every reviewer thought this movie was ‘fresh’, but if you actually read the reviews only one or two are saying it’s a spectacular film. Everyone else had varying degrees of issues with it, mostly with Parker’s directing and the writing.
People got excited about the 20 million it sold for and I think that put the idea that it was getting exceptional reviews in people’s head, but selling for big money at a film festival isn’t indicative of quality.
Same here, Babsie. This film is tainted fruit from a poison tree. I won’t touch it, and that’s a shame because Nat Turner’s story is important and empowering.
I agree. There are plenty of books and I think at least one or two documentaries or films about Turner. We can all gain more knowledge on that story without seeing this movie.
I feel really bad for Nat Turner & his family that this horrible human being came and hijacked his story.
He looks and speaks like a guy high on confidence and ego. People that do bad things and get away with them, usually are. That is where sanctions come in, whether from the legal system or from society. Obviously. this guy received no sanctions.
And what a great piece of acting when he says he was ‘vindicated’. I feel like this whole interview was set up as a stage for him to perform that moment.
Yes! The interview was taped in August and then the part with the rape questions came recently….did you see the difference in demeanor??? What a POS. I was angry Anderson didn’t press him on being found “innocent”…um, no, that’s not how it works!!!
At this point in time he needs to just stop talking. He’s being extremely insensitive and disrespectful to the victim and her family all for the sake of his movie. I hope Gabrielle Union clocks him in the head.
I feel so bad for her…….I would be beside myself if I were her and thought about him directing how I should behave in a rape scene. Rape survivor getting coached by a rapist on how to act while being raped- the studio should really apologize to her and she should never have to be near him again. I can’t with how all these people are being revictimized around us by this guy & it’s happening. What he did in the past was terrible and he’s doing a lesser version of it all over again.
I went off about this story to my husband the other day-it’s like waves upon waves of shit just keep washing over us. The rape, the invitation for others to participate, the harassment, the stalking, then using his fellow rapist as a writing partner to INVENT a rape, then hiring a survivor to be raped on film, and directing the rape scene…
Methinks this guy has a thing about rape…
Christ no. Jesus make this man go away. Far far away.
I just can’t with the arrogant smugness of this awful man. I can’t even look at him photos as the smugness makes me v angry.
I hope karma comes and bites his head off.
He’s actually for real and peddling this crap – I wish I couldn’t believe it but with the existence of predators like Cosby, Uncle Terry et al I can and it sickens me that they are still allowed a platform. How about we all ignore them, give them no clicks, boycott his film until he sinks into a hole in the ground that he deserves? (I know I clicked but more for the comments than this total waste of human organs) It’s at time like this I wish I believed in a hell and I wish I believed it’s where this POS would end up…
“…with respect to this woman not being here.” Read that phrasing and parse it out. He won’t even grant her the dignity of using her name. And “not being here”?? She killed herself, Nate. You abused and stalked her and her despair was so overwhelming that she decided death was preferable.
Cold. As. Ice.
Disgusting. As someone else said, you can’t point to the legal system for proof that you’re innocent and then turn around and ignore its judgment when it comes to your friend.
I hope that people realize it’s not worth the PR nightmare to work with him in the future.
Roman Polanski and Woody Allen do you people support their movies?? I am Not happy about Nate Parker at all but see some interesting comments about him that i have not seen about them
I do not. Absolutely not. And it’s a damn shame because some of Woody Allen’s moves look like something I would enjoy. But I cannot with their privileged bullshit.
Oh come on, stop this whataboutism. Most commenters on this site don’t support either of them and criticize actresses and actors who work with them.
Have you been reading Celebitchy long? Because if you have, you would know the complete and utter disdain people here have for Woody Allen and Roman Polanski.
Nah, we boo and hiss and throw tomatoes EQUALLY around here. All misogynistic rapey assholes have GOT TO GO. Bye.
You must be new here. Literally ANY time Woody Allen or Roman Polanski are featured on this site, they get ripped to shreds for the scumbags that they are.
I absolutely do not. They have a movie or Amazon series, I take myself far, far away. (I do the same for Marky Mark because racist incidents and I just don’t like him).
Unlike Polanski, who pleaded guilty and Parker (and, let’s not forget the other POS, Celestin) with the transcripts as proof, Allen never admitted to anything; nor, was he convicted. Yet, Allen’s equally reviled here.
So, what’s your point? I don’t believe I’ve ever read a CBer supporting either Polanski or Allen.
FTR, I can’t say, unequivocally, that Allen is guilty of child molestation, but, given his relationship with his (now) wife, he’s questionable and creepy enough that I don’t support him in any way.
Haven’t commented on this yet but I am a fan of some WA movies, haven’t seen the old or the very newest ones, but would. Liked Chinatown and not as much the pianist. I would watch NPs movie, this one looks good. I am not trying to say I’m pro rapist but I don’t see the point in denying myself the experience when in some cases my watching doesn’t even pay them (if some one downloads it for free.) so I’m a separater of Art and artist I guess
I see your comment and guess that you haven’t really thought it about that much. The way you just kind of shrug off the idea of not separating art & artist and don’t want to deny yourself the pleasure of the experience.
Dude premiediated getting a woman so drunk that he could rape her, invited his friends to rape her, watched, dragged & stalked her for coming forward, told her she deserved it because she put herself near him and then wrote a rape scene with the f-ing rapist that he raped with. Then they hired a rape survivor to play the rape victim and they director her in the scene- all the while not telling said rape victim that they were rapists. We should get pissed when people even give this man 1/2 of 1/2 cent of their money. Besides the fact that you are totally supporting a culture of scooting rape under the carpet to not diminish your experience as a movie goer.
Do you think that impact of WA’s or Polanski’s successful career had any impact on his victims? Or victims of other powerful men that think of coming forward? The fact that a victim can come forward with abuse and people try to silence them so they don’t have to think about icky things while they try and enjoy a night out to the movies is gross and pro-rapist.
no, I don’t but- thanks for playing SJW bingo!
ROFL, I love this comment.
Please read some of the old posts about them then. It’s pretty clear they have no support here.
“see some interesting comments about him that i have not seen about them”
You must not be a regular here, because those men are not supported at all. The commenters on this site tend to be firmly on the side of the victims of both men and we regularly question how stars can work with these men (like Woody Allen).
You might want to look at the stories where Blake Lively defended Allen. Her comments weren’t well received on Celebitchy.
Anyone who thinks that supporting a perp does nothing. Just listen to the sibling of Nate Parker’s victim:
In the years that followed, Nate Parker became a well-known actor. It tormented my sister to see him thrive while she was still struggling. In 2012, she committed suicide. It took me more than two years to not cry uncontrollably every day over her loss.
Nope. None of them.
And this guy is an entitled rapist pig.
If you haven’t seen those comments about Woody Allen or Roman Polanski, it’s because you didn’t bother to look.
And to answer your question, nope. I don’t support either of them along with a list of other actors/directors/musicians, etc.
I can hate multiple rapists and pedophiles at the same time and I don’t care if I never get to see another movie the rest of my life if that’s what it takes!
He wasn’t proven innocent. He and his friends damaged this girl so much that she couldn’t continue to show up to court.
I read that during the last days of her life she went through phases of saying she was God and/or the Devil, and that God was speaking to her through the radio.
I feel so much pain for that poor girl, and this guy can’t even say he’s sorry?
btw, if @Goldie is around, she said there was an article in which it was reported that Nate Parker’s current wife was friendly towards the victim (before the attack/trial), anybody knows which article is it?
Hi Aren. I think I read that on a blog, don’t remember where. I probably should have been more clear about the fact that it was gossip. Sorry.
I told my mom about him last night since she was planning on seeing this movie. She had no idea he was a rapist and wrote the movie with his co-rapist. She really wants to support the movie and its message, but Nate is problematic.
I wish a reporter would ask him about the rape scene in the movie.Why did they create it and did they know Gabby was a rape survivor when they asked her to do it?
POS…. and, everyone who supports him, shills for him and his movie.
Sure Nate…. cause two guys accused/charged with a rape they didn’t commit would just love to direct/act out a rape scene so much they’d write in one as a central (and untrue) part of Nat Turner’s life.
He’s applying the saying, “if you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people eventually come to believe it” but in his case the more he talks about it the less we buy it.
See also: Trump, Donald
And Clinton Bill/Hillary…
Sure, totally in the same ballpark of lying.
Okay, douchebag, in this country there is no such thing as “being proven innocent.” Just because there wasn’t enough evidence to convict does not mean you didn’t commit the crime, which would in part explain why we hear a verdict of not-guilty, but NEVER a verdict of innocent. And on that note, because you were found not-guilty, that means you’re innocent, but despite your friend being found guilty, he’s also innocent? Through this whole shitshow I’ve really tried to not hate this festering turd, but this is just too damn much.
Haha yes!!!
He was NOT PROVEN anything. There was not enough evidence to convict or there was a reasonable doubt, but being found not guilty does not equal innocence
Right, I thought the same thing: you aren’t proven “innocent”. You’re proven “not guilty” which, although it sounds like splitting hairs, ain’t the same thing. It just means there wasn’t enough evidence to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. (Disclaimer: I learned all I know about law by watching “The FBI Files” and “The New Detectives”. Haha) In my mind this guy is guilty as sin. Psychologically speaking, you can tell there is a deep level of conflict and cognitive dissonance in this person. Deep down I think he knows what he did to her was wrong, but his conscience keeps trying to mansplain it. Not defending him in any way. He is just twisting in the wind, proving himself guilty by continuing to talk. I say let him keep talking. Although it is hurting the family, he’s proving his detractors’ points valid each time he opens his mouth.
Dear Nate
Please stop talking
Signed ….The World
“I was vindicated”, “Jean served time for something he didn’t do”.
So the court system is correct enough to vindicate him, but not correct enough to let Jean off.
He doesn’t even see what Jean did as rape.
Give him a gold medal, I’ve never seen a garbage bag do such mental gymnastics.
What Mr. Unapologetic Rapist doesn’t seem to understand is we can go to bookstores and libraries to get books on Nat Turner. We don’t need to spend money to see Nate Parker’s fictional-movie-based-on-a-true-story-with-bonus-fictional-rape-scene version.
^^^Yes and I plan to – Nat Turner is an historical figure I hadn’t heard of before. His story is getting lost in all this and I don’t need this movie to teach me about him. Gonna DIY it. 🙂
If fox searchlight wants to save this film then stop Parker from doing interviews. Anybody but Parker should be promoting it. He’s doing more harm than good.
I totally agree. However, I think this guy’s ego is so large, he wouldn’t dream of letting someone else promote his “baby” of a movie. He wrote, directed & starred. This guy is a legend in his own mind!
False accusations are a thing for sure. Not for this guy though, in my opinion. Has any journalist done the obvious follow up questions like : “so what about the stalking accusations?” And “why did you wave 2 guys in to join you while you were intimate with her?”
They exist, but they are MUCH rarer that the MRAs would have you believe. Reporting rape or assault is a painful, messy, embarrassing, accusatory process that lays bare everything about you: what you were wearing, how you behaved before and after the assault, your hair, your sexual past, you name it, it’s fair game. Getting through it without puking your guts up regularly is practically impossible…you have to be really sick and twisted to go through all of that just to falsely accuse a man of rape…an accusation that won’t really impact his chances for success. Reference: Nate Parker’s entire life story.
Not geared toward one commenters- just in general: I hate hearing “false accusation are a thing for sure….” We don’t need to diminish our comments with crap like that. Sure- once in a while but stuff like that makes it sound common- like our gut and go to should be that it could be a false accusation. We should not apologize or weaken our comments because a woman, somewhere lied about being raped when we all know plenty of women who have been raped and nothing happened. We all should stop apologizing for being pissed off about rape and the men who get away with it.
Wow great points LizLemon – I had never thought of it that way before. Being a false accuser sure would require a whole lot of energy, time, and probably requires a sociopath’s ability to lie in order to fool everyone. Standing up to that kind of scrutiny is not for the faint of heart. My heart breaks for ALL sexual assault victims, both those with the guts to stand up and those who don’t stand the test of time and scrutiny. Because either way it’s horrendous. The victim-blaming we do in our society is truly heart-wrenching. It’s like gaslighting on a global scale.
I think it’s difficult for anyone who hasn’t been through the process to really understand it. I’m not suggesting that people can’t be empathetic, but that unless you’ve actually been through it, there’s really no way to understand how invasive it is to have your sexual past, your appearance, every decision you made before, during, and after the assault…everything can be troweled through, examined, and judged-and frankly, in 2001, there was even less visibility around the way rape and assault cases were conducted. Speaking from personal experience, I’ve had a judge (!) question why I still spoke to my ex-boyfriend who assaulted me. Well, your honor, because I’m 19 years old and trying to figure out how the f-ck to cope with this situation, and so, sure, I’m going to ask him WTF?
It’s sad that we almost have to offer a course in “how to be an appropriate victim” which includes: sexual purity, modest dress, appropriate hair and makeup, never drinking or using any illegal drugs, never allowing anyone to do so around you (otherwise you might end up behind a dumpster) etc… In other words, don’t be a human woman.
Liz- right with everything you are saying. It’s amazing how much the victim is questioned for every little detail and mind boggling when I hear someone say that a woman would go through what happens for revenge or attention. It is such a horrifying experience and I’m surprised when victims decide to go through it- not when they decide to not go to the police. We need courses in how to not expect the perfect victim and in more women coming forward without backlash so that we understand these things. We need people not jumping to the automatic assumption that another woman is lying or likely to be lying.
The public and judges, for christ sake, should learn about these things and stop making victims lives more difficult after abuse, rape, dv, etc. I really wish Nate Parker’s victim had been supported and I hope you were/are too. Kudos to standing up to your abuser with so much in the way, including a lot of sexist idiots.
This guy is a piece of shit. Not once, in any interview I’ve seen, has he expressed the slightest bit of remorse or regret over what he and his friends did to their victim. He may be the most gifted actor on the planet, but he is a horrible human being and I hope his career flops.
I can’t believe how much WORSE he’s making it.
It was bad enough when he did the whole “I was young, now I have kids and am Christian” thing, which was never an excuse either, but now playing this “proven innocent” victim who can’t apologize for any of the pain caused? Just horrible.
Not to mention all the harassment of the actual victim after the crime too.
Simply a terrible, terrible man. Unfortunately, there are plenty of other social media sites where he is actually being *defended*by people–mostly men. It’s heart wrenching to see this unremorseful rapist be defended.
Judgement Day is coming Nate. May you rot in hell.
http://variety.com/2016/film/news/nate-parker-birth-of-a-nation-rape-claims-sister-penn-state-1201874004/
Yes! This editorial is what clinched it for me. It’s egregious what they did to begin with – but to add the rape scene to the movie when it’s not even needed is just like, how in the hell can you walk around and act like you have been vindicated? It’s disgusting.
If he was so freaking innocent, why would he stalk this woman around campus? Also, since when is it fun to screw (read: rape) a woman when she’s passed out?
Men and their D*cks, it never ceases to amaze me.
This story is really pissing me off. Because this guy is given a stage and not enough accountability. He is actively hurting people with his shrug defense and not apologizing to her family while this is getting unearthed. He is hurting people by saying that it is okay to have sex with people who have said no before but can’t currently say no. He is saying that getting a girl “down” is what is okay. F- him and the studio and news outlets that have him on and don’t skewer him. F- the studio for allowing him near Gabrielle Union and for making her stand near him. F- the system for putting this woman’s life on hold and then dropping the ball by letting too much time go on to try this rapist’s rapist friend. F- everyone who creates a rapist culture that puts victims on trial and makes them watch while their rapist gets rich. F- the judge who said that a woman who gives a bj allows herself to be raped. I hope Nate Parker rots in hell and I hope this anger motivates us to make a change. The laws dropped this woman but it was the public scrutiny and his lack of accountability that killed her.
I agree 100% MC2. I hope this anger does motivate us to make a change. The law and the whole system in general is misogynist, which is bad enough, but the fact that asshats like Parker still are walking around not understanding why people keep “bringing it up” really upsets me. How can he not understand why people can’t let it go. I’m afraid that this guy is a reflection of the male population in general.
There is a whole lot to take in with this entire story, from the harassment of the victim to the entitlement of the men involved to her suicide and the suffering of the family. There is a whole lot of injustice. But I think what sums it up best for me came from the victim’s sister’s statement in which she points out that the rape scene in the movie was entirely crafted by Parker and his co-writer, with absolutely no basis in history. The main protagonist in the story did not need to have his wife raped in order to rise up against slavery. Why did they feel the need to add a vicious attack on a female character to this story? And to feature an actress in the rape scene who herself was a victim of rape? It just boggles the mind. It’s bad enough to begin with – but to tack that rape scene on to the story they produced and filmed years later, after they were supposedly “vindicated” from this crime – that just seals the deal for me. I will never support this movie or this group of writers/producers. Instead I will comb through my local library and online to read the REAL history of the man whose fight against injustice is featured in this film. HIS story should be told and studied, in a way that’s unperverted by these, at best, sadly misguided filmmakers and at worst, guilty rapists.
The trailers have started airing where I live and they make me super-ragey. It’s clear that he thought if he wrapped himself in a slavery movie, it would immunize him from criticism about his past. Since that hasn’t proven to be enough, the voiceover to the trailer attempts to wrap him in God. Revolting. I leap to change the channel the second that sh&@ starts now.
Nat Turner’s story film debut deserves so much better than this POS narcissist who is behind it.
I saw the headline……to NP – in the dark, late at night. when you can’t sleep and then those days where your wife and daughters keep giving you “that look”…..sure….you just keep telling yourself your innocent and were acquitted……
Few words.
Boycott.
Zero tolerance
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He is an unrepentant rapist, who cast a rape survivor in his movie and then directed her in a rape scene he and his convicted rapist collaborator had written.
There is a special place in hell for the pair of them and my only hope is that the Almighty determines their residence is sooner, not later.
I said this weeks ago, he legit doesn’t believe he did anything wrong. At the very least, you would think he would apologize for his behavior after towards the woman, the stalking and what not. I bet a lot of people would probably give him a pass if he said I didn’t rape her but I what I did after was wrong; but he can’t or won’t even do that.
Agreed Patty. That is what’s scary to me that after all this, he still doesn’t think what he did was wrong and doesn’t understand why others think way. Scary sh*t all around.
No, Nate. You weren’t vindicated and you weren’t proven innocent. You were acquitted ON A TECHNICALITY. Learn the difference. In the meantime, please take a long walk off a short pier.
Every time I see his photo with that big smile, it disgusts me. I can admit I don’t know if he truly raped that woman. I cannot read the transcripts but believe everything I’ve heard… and believe he’s guilty. His words say so much.
You better be damn sure if I was not guilty, went to trial, & was still acquitted, I’d say loudly and proudly that I DID NOT COMMIT THE CRIME. Forever. Whether I had a possible hit movie out or not.
He he has not once said that.
Nate Parker is vile. Oh the illogicacy of his statements. He was vindicated so he’s innocent but oh wait Célestin is innocent too even though he went to jail. What a disgustingly unrepentant man who tried to hide behind his status as father and husband earlier.