Around the same time that Donald Trump was tweeting that Alicia Machado is “disgusting” and that she has a “sex tape,” CNN revealed that Trump actually took part in a softcore Playboy video of his own back in the 1990s – go here to see. It was just one more piece of evidence of Trump’s decades-long misogyny. Some believe that Trump’s hatred of women will be his undoing in this election, that women across the board – women of every age, every race, every size, every religion – will reject Trump because we can see, clearly, that he does not like us. He thinks we are pieces of meat. He thinks that we are only acceptable as sex objects and even then, we are sub-human. Trump was in Las Vegas yesterday and props to the local TV station there, because they got an exclusive with Trump and their local journalist (KSNV’s Jim Snyder) asked the question about Trump’s long history of sexism.
If Donald Trump’s entire candidacy turns out to be an elaborate I’m Still Here–style mockumentary, don’t say he didn’t warn us. In an interview with Las Vegas TV station KSNV on Wednesday, the GOP nominee suggested that his gross comments about women (for examples, check out basically any Hillary Clinton ad) were made while he was in character as Donald Trump, host of The Apprentice.
“You have two beautiful daughters past their teenage years,” KSNV’s Jim Snyder said. “Can you understand the concern from parents of younger girls that some of your comments could be hurtful to girls struggling with body image and the pressure to be model-perfect?”
“Sure I do. And you know, a lot of this is done in the entertainment business. I’m being interviewed for Apprentice long before I ever thought in terms of running for office,” Trump responded, according to a transcript posted by CBS News’s Sopan Deb. “But a lot of that was done for the purpose of entertainment. I can tell you this: There is nobody — nobody — that has more respect for women than I do.”
So now that he’s Donald Trump, presidential candidate, is he trying to tone down those remarks?
“Well, it’s not a question of trying. It’s very easy,” he said. “But you know, you’re in the entertainment business. You’re doing The Apprentice. You have one of the top shows on television. And you say things differently for a reason.”
The Apprentice launched in 2004, so if true, Trump was plotting to turn a series of business failures into a lucrative TV and steak business for more than a decade. He famously declared, “You know, it doesn’t really matter what [they] write as long as you’ve got a young and beautiful piece of ass,” way back in 1991. Five years later, he reportedly called Miss Universe Alicia Machado “Miss Piggy.” He’s the Daniel Day-Lewis of sexist reality TV characters!
Alas, Trump told KSNV that “now it’s a much different world.” Presumably the “now” he’s referring to is the last five days. It’s been less than two weeks since Trump responded to Clinton’s point that he calls women “pigs, slobs, and dogs” by saying Rosie O’Donnell “deserves it,” and complaining on Fox and Friends that Machado “gained a massive amount of weight” and directing his Twitter followers to her nonexistent sex tape.
“But a lot of that was done for the purpose of entertainment…” Yeah, we know. At this point, we understand that this is what “entertains” you and your supporters: rampant misogyny. Hatred of women is “entertaining” because bitches be fat, amirite?
Incidentally, The Atlantic’s endorsement for Hillary Clinton is making a lot of waves this week – go here to read it. Did you know that no major media outlet in the country has endorsed Donald Trump? Rachel Maddow said that last night, I don’t know if it’s true, but it does feel like editorial boards across this country are nearly universally saying that no one should vote for Trump.
Photos courtesy of Fame/Flynet.
He’s a … nah. Not worth it. Nov. 9th, he’s nobody.
+1
I haven’t decided what I’m gonna do in terms of voting, I just know that I won’t be voting for Dumpster Fire. I have a bit of luxury here because Massachusetts will go to HRC.
I’m tempted to vote third party or write in Elizabeth Warren as a shout-out to Sanders (whom I voted for in the primary) but then I’d be passing up the chance to vote for our first female presidential candidate. Plus my mom loves HRC and would be really pissed at me.
What do you guys think I should do?
I’m in the same boat, though different part of the country. I don’t like anyone on the ballot and I know Trump will take TN no matter who I vote for.
Vote for Hillary. She should have as much extra votes as possible compared to the orange monster.
Listen to Bernie. Vote for HRC. And you love your mom. Iber vote for Hillary is important to her. Don’t cancel that vote out
Oh KITTEN! Seriously? Please don’t throw away your vote!!! And you can’t assume Massachusetts will get it right. Years ago there was a Democratic candidate (I think for governor?) who everyone assumed had a guaranteed win, and instead the creepy man with the daughters won (help me out here!). When they say a vote for Jill Stein or whoever is a vote for Trump, it’s true!
This is going to sound condescending, but when a paper like USA Today prints an editorial on their front page listing why they will not be endorsing trump and listing the multitude of reasons, vs HRC (listing her credentials, experience, etc) you kind of have to take it as a sign. I mean, USA Today…
I can’t hel but to feel a third party vote is kind of a waste in what could be a close election. Presently, the system doesn’t really allow for a viable chance for Green Party, independents etc. it should, of course, but reality is we’re playing in a two party system and quite frankly in close states, it works in favor of trump. I don’t think the electoral colleges will follow suit but we also can’t trust them to pull it out. TLDT; do it for us, for our future, for retired beauty queens everywhere. So next year we’re not signing our kids up for the real live hunger games.
Do it for the kittens.
– concerned citizen
Vote Hillary. I can’t help feeling that no chances should be taken in this election, even in a state that you think is secure.
I’m probably your Mom’s age, and HRC winning is important to me too. I guess all I would say is that she will make a good president. She will be a much better president than Johnson, Stein or Trump.
Oh Kitten, I know how important this is to you — if only more Americans were as thoughtful and informed as you are. But respectfully I’d advise you to give your vote to HRC, regardless of how your state will go.
Vote HRC, She needs a massive popular vote as well as the electoral college. Because in a close vote Trump and his deplorables will be screaming fix, fix, fix to high heavens.
I beg you please do not take those chances. Imagine if everyone in your state thought like that then you take a chance of her losing your state. Nothing is set in stone and although it looks promising for her now if people don’t go in and vote on that day then it will be devastating. Even if you don’t love her, having him would be a million times worse. When she lost to Obama 8 years ago and I had to vote but wasn’t the biggest fan of Obama I still voted for him and I’m so glad I did. He’s been an exceptional president. Just look at all she’s accomplished in her life. She’s qualified and competent to be our first woman president!
I can’t WAIT to see that p.o.s. go down in a landslide of flames. To a strong, intelligent woman. Please add your fuel to the fire.
I’ve been reading Common Sense by Thomas Paine
Some men say that I’m intense or I’m insane
You want a revolution? I want a revelation
So listen to my declaration…
I’m voting for HRC, not because I feel like she’s just fabulous (Elizabeth Warren reminds me of my amazing Aunt Sheri, so I’m all in for her and Bernie) but because I don’t want DJT and the f-cked up marshmallow Pence destroying this country. Personally, I would possibly benefit from a DJT presidency: I am in an industry that would flourish under his policies, I’m white, I’m married to a man, I’m well-off, I don’t need an abortion or a gay marriage certificate…hell, I might get some tax breaks. But because I’m not a nationalistic, self-righteous, racist, bigoted, incompetent idiot…I’m voting HRC. I feel like those without privilege will fare better under her policies. Georgia is in PLAY, so my vote counts for once!
So, in short, if you feel strongly that your conscience will not let you vote HRC, that’s your prerogative and you’re not hurting anyone with it. BUT…getting to vote for the first female president is pretty cool, and if she does everything she says she’s going to do…It would be cool to say you voted for her.
Hey guys-Massachusetts is one of the bluest states in the union and it’s been primarily Dem for 985 years. It WILL go to Clinton, guaranteed.
I’m sure some people will be doing write-ins and voting third party, but even with that, this is HRC territory by a very sizable margin.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/2016-election-results/massachusetts/
Anyway, thank you all for weighing. Always value your opinions and I still have a bit of time to think on it.
I also meant to mention that my mom is a French citizen who can’t vote so in a way I’m kind of voting for her so yeah…there’s added pressure to vote Clinton.
ETA: @ LizLemon-thanks..yeah you get it and you’re right.
@LizLemonGotMarried–Well said!
Another thing, Kitten, if she wins by electoral vote only, not popular vote or by a tiny margin with the popular vote, the GOP will have a field day with that. She needs to have a strong popular vote to show she has a mandate from the voters and, thus, can accomplish more in office.
I’ve kind of been thinking the same thing. I want to vote third party to try and get them some funding for the next election. However, there aren’t any third party candidates that I think are qualified to do the job so why should they get my vote? I will do some third party voting locally (as I try to do) if there is a worthy candidate, but I’m going to use my vote the way I see fit. And that way is by voting for our first female president and the best candidate for the job.
I was a Bernie supporter too and I really struggled with this decision, but once I made it, I knew it was the right one for me. It’s like when Pottermore sorted me into Slytherin. I wasn’t excited about it, but since I embraced it, I love it! That’s how I feel about this election. It wasn’t what I wanted, I wasn’t happy about it, but now that I’ve embraced it, I’m all in! I don’t care if HRC is ahead in the polls 99 to 1. I’m still voting for her.
I’m with Liz on this too. Those of us who are in the “privileged majority” can see how dangerous a Trump/Pence presidency would be for the country, especially for minorities, LGBTQ and the poor. I’m tired of the individualistic “me first” attitude of looking out for ourselves to the detriment of everyone else (Trump in a nutshell). GOP policies serve to enrich the rich, keep the poor in poverty and shut out the foreigners. We all benefit from policies that raise up those that have been held down and our country is better for it when more are given the tools/opportunities to succeed.
I hope you won’t throw away your vote. Either Clinton or Trump is going to be our next President and you have a say in who DOESN’T win. Also, a landslide victory for the Democrats in both the WH and Congress sends a clear and strong message to the GOP that is needed to get them to move to the center ideologically.
@AngelaH:
My Slytherin hubby is firmly ensconced on HRC’s side.
I hear ya, Kitten, but then I worry that if a lot of voters go 3rd party because they feel safe that HRC will win, that could possibly bring on Trumpageddon, and that’s truly a fate worse than death for this country and maybe the world. Since you ask, I’d say you should vote for HRC. She’s far from perfect but she’s not Trump.
I know the feeling – NJ always goes blue too, but I still believe every vote counts. I’ve seen so many people say what you did – “my state is always blue, so maybe I’ll vote third party”, or “my state is always red, so it doesn’t matter” but my feeling always is that you never know how many people are saying that, and if everyone voted anyway, MAYBE somewhere there would be a change.
Considering we have major conservative publications throwing their support to Clinton, I don’t think it’s impossible that a traditionally red state might inch closer or even become blue, or vice versa.
Obviously everyone needs to do what they feel is right, but I do hope a lot of people feeling the way you do decide to vote for HRC, as I want it to be a full electoral college and popular vote destroying of Trump.
PLEASE check the link I posted, guys. It has the predicted results in Mass including a four-way choice.
Four-way choice
Clinton: 48%
Stein: 5%
Johnson: 11%
Trump: 29%
An almost 20% margin is NOT something you can overcome this late in the election, even if Stein’s percentage increased substantially (which it won’t this late in the election).
I know everybody is panicking but there is ZERO chance that Trump will take Massachusetts, even if Kitten votes third party 😉
And voting third party in a non-swing state is NOT “throwing a vote away”, it’s a vote against a two-party system and yes, that actually matters to me, guys. My question was about my symbolic vote, because that’s really what it is at this point.
That being said, I know how “Yuge” this election is and I understand the importance of erring on the side of caution. On the plus side, voters in Massachusetts have picked the winning candidate in six election cycles since 1972. Let’s hope we’re on the right side this time too.
Thanks again for all the input.
@Kitten,
As a Canadian I might add that on the outside, it looks like America’s citizens have legitimised degeneracy. America is not looking good to the rest of the world.
So, the larger the popular and electoral vote for Hillary, the more of a landslide, serves to show the rest of us that America does not possess a preponderance of nazi-like, hateful, crazy loons. It will show that given this terrifying horror, citizens will rise up and soundly thrash fascism and beat it back into the slimy darkness. This is your chance, America, to show what you’re really made of. It really is all in your hands this time, really a life or death decision. Your voice is everything.
As a woman, you should vote for the most qualified, intelligent, prepared and best tempered candidate in the race…who also happens to be a woman. Hillary Clinton is the only true candidate running for President, the others are just noise.
Another reason to vote for HRC even if her winning is a sure thing in your state, the bigger the win the bigger the message. The worse thing that could happen (other than Trump actually winning) is a close win for Hillary. Republicans and Conservatives need to know misogyny, racism, homophobia isn’t even close to being the majority in this country. If Trump is thoroughly trounced it shows people like him won’t be tolerated and they need to crawl back into their holes.
Kitten, my only comment is that Cheeto will challenge the popular vote. He’s probably already filing lawsuits. Those of us in blue states may still find each individual vote counted in endless recounts.
Vote for Hillary. She’s fine. Very few US presidents, or presidential candidates are extraordinary and she’s either been attacked by the right or held to too high a bar by the left. She’s smart, she’s sane, and after putting up with so much s–t she deserves support and to have coattails & to get a mandate. She’s earned our votes if only for “women’s rights are human rights.”
Just curious as to where Jill is holding her election night party. Kerry took over Copley Square; Romney the Convention Center (with unannounced fireworks planned to explode over neighborhoods that didn’t vote for him) Is Jill hosting a bash downtown, holding festivities on the Lexington Green, in tribute to the start of the revolution and her party, or are people invited to her house?
Kitten, did you read the Atlantic Montly endorsement of Hillary? Please do before you do anything else – here’s the link again.
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/11/the-case-for-hillary-clinton-and-against-donald-trump/501161/
@LizLemonGotMarried:
WooWoo…Slytherins for Clinton!
Kitten, I’m in the opposite boat, living in Georgia where my vote for HRC isn’t going to swing this state blue. But I will be casting that vote, not only because I think she’s the most qualified person for the job, but because I do forsee a race that may come down to the popular vote. Also, I respect the need for a third party or more system, but I think you get that by building support from local elections and state elections on up, not by launching yourself into the Presidential race and hoping the echo chamber is loud enough.
The part of me that loved the idea of Warren as a candidate is gleeful at the thought of a write-in campaign, except that she very strongly said that she did not want to run. With women’s choices so much at the heart of the election and the current political schisms, it feels disrespectful to invalidate her decision, even in a lovingly humorous way.
@BettyD:
Don’t count your Cheetos before they are shat out by the CheetoKing…Georgia may be in play. My rabid liberal ass will be at my place bright and shiny early with bells on!
My state is deep red, yet I plan to cast my early vote for HC. My mom strongly supported HC during her last campaign and she is not here to see this mess of an election end.
So, my vote is a bit for my mom’s memory, but mostly because I genuinely believe every vote will count. I remember 2000 all too well.
please remember that even if your state goes HRC, she could also use as much of the popular vote as possible too. It would be much better for her to win in a landslide vs. the possibility of 2000 happening all over again (but like, the inverse). I understand wanting to give credence to the idea of third party power, but I feel like it’s too scary here, and as some commenters above pointed out, IMAGINE if lots of blue people in a very blue state decided to vote third party, resulting in a trump win.
Could I please share something with all of you, I lived in Argentina during the early ’80’s. We had no right to vote, protest or even distribute any propaganda that opposed the military. If you did, you would end up in jail and worse, lost forever. The fact that I saw my family living in such deplorable conditions, strengthened my beliefs is always voting, no matter my choice. We are all so lucky that we RIGHT and privilege to vote. There are many people around the world that don’t have our freedoms, or live in a democracy. EVERY VOTE COUNTS!!
Lee: VOTE FOR HILLARY 🙂 I am voting for Hillary and so is my spouse, along with my brother and sister-in-law.
1) History in the making to vote for the first female who may become president.
2) Like you said: Every vote counts.
Thanks.
There is a risk people in “safe” blue states will assume that everyone else will vote for HRC, so they have the luxury of voting for a 3rd candidate or casting a dummy vote. Or they won’t show up to vote at all.
This is how BREXIT happened. Everyone assumed it was in the bag, so young people, in particular, didn’t vote. And yet all the older Brexiters – just like all the rabid Trump voters – DO show up.
Please, for the love of God, don’t throw away your vote. If you write in Elizabeth Warren’s name, no one is going to notice except for the electoral poll worker who throws your ballot in the bin.
We had a really ugly mayoral election here in London. I voted for the Women’s Equality Party because I couldn’t stomach giving my vote to either major party’s candidate. Now? I really regret not voting for Sadiq Khan. Not only has he been an excellent mayor so far, he is one of the few sane voices in the Labour party. So I guess what I am saying is, it feels good temporarily to vote for a third party candidate. But ultimately you have to actually pick a side, when there are only two real options available.
Kitten,
I just read this article proposing that people are lying to pollsters because they are embarrassed/ashamed to support Trump. Don’t take anything for granted!
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/05/opinions/will-trump-win-with-closeted-army-of-voters-kennedy/index.html
I don’t understand the premise of voting based on what you *think* the outcome will be. Too many people do this, assuming that even if the outcome is as they suspected, it doesn’t undermine democracy. It does.
Don’t get me wrong. A certain orange garbagefire and his cohort of pundits are undermining democracy more than your single MA vote ever could, as are many other players in this convoluted system.
But that’s not the point. The point is that you know the right choice, and you’re considering making a different one.
I vote in every major and local election because I have an educated opinion. I think you do, too. Use your brain-powers for good, not for point-making (the point will not be heard).
Peace, love, and hazy IPAs
I am a former Kansan who was voting third party absentee for years from DC. My husband and I live in Missouri now. We’re with her. This election is too scary..
KItten, I know I late to this discussion, but wanted to add my two cents.
I’m in Massachusetts too, and *most likely* you’re right, and our state will go for HRC.
In a normal election year, I’d say “go for it!” that you should send a message of support to any third party that you want. But this year, this election, I think it’s important for anyone who favors HRC and her policies over DJT, should cast their vote for Clinton. He’s already planted seeds to oppose the election results if he loses, so I think every single vote will count, even if a states electoral votes would already go to Clinton without a vote here or there. The popular vote will also come into play, if not legally, in the court of public opinion. I don’t think anyone who isn’t willing looking to cast a vote for him should give that Oompa Loompa with a Tribble on his head any sliver of support or wiggle room to contest the election results. Plus who knows how many people will weigh the same choice and decide HRC will win their state no matter who they vote for, and suddenly we’re not looking at HRC – OR GJ or JS taking an oath in January, but instead the Great Pomposter.
If any of us are serious about getting really third party choices going, I think it’s better to get them off the ground on the local and state level first, and not take a risk with the biggest office in the country.
Do your best to educate yourself on the actual facts (not headlines), then vote for whichever candidate you think is BEST qualified to be president. Simple as that. No other “statement” or shoutout matters.
A vote for a third party candidate is a vote for trump. That’s the truth.
@Kitten Ok so if you did vote third party did you actually take a look at their platform and agree with it? Stein is an anti-vaxxer and Johnson’s platform is even scarier. Just make sure the third party is even worth it.
We hope. But I don’t put it past America to pull a Brexit. Because we are that dumb.
Yup.
This is an unusual situation. We really need the popular vote for Hillary to be as high as possible to thoroughly repudiate the garbage Trump has been spewing. Also to lower the risk of his armed deplorables creating chaos.
Also Hillary has to be able to outrun any hackers. Those voting machines are vulnerable. It’s quite possible that Obama won by a much larger margin than was counted. So that’s why every vote counts in this election, no matter what the polls say. Back in 2004, for the first time exit polls (and the Nickelodeon kids vote) did not match the final results. There were other signs of serious hacking in favor of the Republican. The machines are manufactured by conservative Republicans… And recounts are difficult to impossible.
It’s not that I disagree with you, but LOL at the Nickelodeon Kids Poll. 🙂
I know it sounds crazy but the kids poll really has matched the election results in the past! I guess because kids are likely to vote the way their parents are leaning. It was really weird that the first time that failed was after those machines were rapidly adopted and we were seeing more votes for the Republican in some precincts than there were voters… A single typo in one character in a simple computer program designed to shift every tenth vote for the Dem to the Repub would explain the results in one case I saw discussed by a programmer – instead of shifting one vote (which would not have been noticed), it was shifting all the Dem votes in each run. People also were seeing their vote change onscreen before they even left the voting booth, suggesting a timing issue in the hack. People were reporting the same phenomenon in 2008, as I recall. My brother was an enthusiastic Obama supporter from the get-go (he worked in DC at the time) and I remember cynically telling him that Obama would have to win really big to outrun the hackers. Which he apparently did, thankfully.
My heart sank the first time I walked into the polling place and saw all those machines. I have some programming experience and am a techie, and am far less trusting of such things than many other people. We haven’t developed secure non-partisan methods of protecting against hacking and monitoring the real issues involved with those machines in this country. They were pushed rapidly in 2004 to make sure that recounts (essential for our system) were hindered, since recounts almost kept Bush out of the White House in 2000 until recounts were cut short prematurely.
Bush actually got a smaller popular vote than his opponent but Florida’s electoral votes were gifted to him to make him the “winner”. Bush actually lost the 2000 election, and if his brother hadn’t been governor in Florida and able to influence the recounts and the court, things would have been very different. No Gulf War II, no delayed response to Katrina because the National Guard units and their equipment were off in Iraq and Afghanistan, no gutting of FEMA that also hindered rescue efforts, no draconian Patriot Act, no huge debt from the war and occupation, no huge losses of civilian life in Iraq and Afghanistan, no brain-injured US soldiers coming back to cuts in veterans benefits to fund war and more war. Probably no surge in Al Quaeda and no ISIS. Voting matters.
I used to love this site. I come here to read celebrity gossip and not to hear the political opinions of the writers. It’s too much too often.
Shaunna, When a bona fide celebrity, because like him or not that’s what Trump is more than anything, enters the presidential race, don’t you think a celebrity-centric blog is an appropriate place to talk about it? In this day and age, politics, news and entertainment are interacting and blurring more than ever before.
So don’t click on this specific thread. I don’t get this. I don’t like the Kardashians wasting page space, solution: I avoid clicking so as not to drive clicks on those pages.
Shaunna, America is facing a complete disaster if Trump, a “celebrity” in the worst possible sense of the word, wins. The more people can intelligently opine on the multitudinous reasons why this would be like taking a wrecking ball to not only America but the rest of the planet, the better chance of Hillary winning.
“Celebrity” isn’t just about who’s wearing what, or having an affair or breaking up, or the latest movies, it captures celebrity in media, business, and politics. And when disaster is only a vote away, I think the more information we share, the more educated people will become on this election and, hopefully, make the right choice.
I never click on Kardashians, LeAnn Rimes, Real Housewives, and oh, so many more. It’s very simple.
yeah, what Betsy said. you’re entitled to your view/opinion…and you’re also entitled to NOT click on a story.
Betsy, I also avoid the K Klan posts, along with a few others I don’t care about. I almost never read the posts on the Royals or Dutchess Kate, but I see they get (sometimes) hundreds of comments. just not my cup of tea so I don’t click. it goes along with the people who will comment with a “Yawn.” or “BORING!”. so yawn-inducing or boring that you had to take the time to TELL us that you think it’s so boring? does not compute.
And yet I DO like political stories and click on those first. Don’t read them if you don’t like them.
This is my favorite part of Celebitchy- the Real Gossip that Matters. I could care less about Kim Kardashian- that bores me to tears, but sometimes I need that kind of Ugh. I want to know the facts about the people who will actually make the laws that govern my life. Give it to me with a snarky spin and some great vocabulary. Thank you CB for satisfying this politico craving.
Lets hope he crawls back underneath a rock where he belongs.
I have to agree with everyone else pointing out that HRC needs as much of the popular vote as possible even in states we don’t think are in play. We need to send a few, critical, messages to the GOP so they will learn from the 15+ years of dog whistles that validated and brought religious extremists, white supremacists and proud anti-intellectuals out into the open and gave Trump the ability to completely mainstream them. The GOP needs to decide whether they will go back to being a rational conservative movement (as opposed to a religio-political movement) that will actually work to govern instead of just making sure washington is at a standstill lest the other party be seen as getting something done or whether they just want to continue to repackage the teapublican movement in a way to claim some plausible deniability about their xenophobia and misogyny.
If you want the country to be more progressive, you need to do anything you can to elect Clinton because if she loses, we will be pulled so much farther to the right. The political capital of the progressives supporting Clinton will be lost/wasted. However, a landslide win will reinforce that the country really does want to live in the current century.
As for the 3rd parties, Gary Johnson and Jill Stein have proven time and time again that neither are even remotely qualified. If they want to be taken seriously, they need candidates that are actually conversant on public/world events, the economy, science and health (oh yeah, I’m side-eyeing some of the BS Dr Jill Stein dances around). Gary Johnson not knowing what Aleppo was, making a joke about it and appearing to be stoned out of his gourd during his townhall with Chris Matthews shows exactly why he should not be treated seriously. Jill Stein cozying up to Putin doesn’t make her look to worthwhile either. It’s the presidency, when those running treat the election with respect and show the electorate they take the job seriously and they actually want to work, then maybe we can take them seriously. Thus far, Clinton is the only candidate that’s done any of that at all
Yep. The only thing that is going to serve as a massive wake-up call to the Repubs is if Trump loses in a landslide. They have been captive to the far right for way too long, so losing three elections in a row might be the only thing that forces the GOP to take a good hard look at itself if it ever wants to win the presidency again.
Their capitulation in support of Trump has been truly shameful.
He may be entertained by being sexist, but it sure feels different on the receiving end.
Ha, yes, exactly. He is unreal.
He is not turning all women against him. I know a few that are total Trump supporters.
Sadly, I do too. I just cannot wrap my head around it…..
Me too. I know two women who are voting for him. When I found out, I couldn’t quite bear to look at them anymore. One I rarely see, but the other one is a person who hangs with a group of us who get together once a month, and ever since I found out I don’t feel the same way about her. I’m kind of ashamed to say that since she’s otherwise a sweet person but it’s just the truth. She feels like The Other to me now.
Yup me too. This election has made me REALLY despise social media. I just don’t want to know…I don’t want to know if you’re a Trump supporter because I don’t want to hate you.
The women I work with support Trump. They’re old school white women and I am a mixed girl feeling awkward, looking over my shoulder everyday XD
really, Kit? I absolutely want to know if someone I know is a Drumpfer.
I’d much rather the bigots/racist/deplorables/DUMB MFers show themselves so I know who they are.
I’m not friends with any personally but I am acquainted with a couple. They are definitely not anyone I’d ever want to count as friends so it’s not surprising. I don’t know how they can look in the mirror.
I’m friends with a couple of them but it’s their choice and I’m not going to stop being their friend just because they vote for him. It actually surprised me that they were Trump supporters.
That’s good that you can look past it. Like I said these women I know are not friends, I actually know them through local politics and they have been extremely nasty and scheming politically in our town for years, trying to get progressives off the ballots and doing anything they can to advance the Tea Party agenda. They were huge Cruz supporters, until they jumped on the Trump train. Thankfully they don’t have much support.
I couldn’t look past it. Trump supporters are now affiliated with the KKK and other white supremacy groups. That means they want a government associated with groups that to kill me and other members of my family, which includes black people, Jewish people, gay people, people from Mexico and other Spanish-speaking countries, Asian people, people with mental and physical disabilities, and more.
How can I hold warm, positive feelings toward that?
Many women support Trump. It confounds me.
I know quite a few women who are Trump fans. They don’t think/pay attention to his misogyny because they don’t think it’s real, to them. They don’t think they’ll be affected negatively by it if he wins. Except they will.
The question that should be asked of these women who “don’t think it’s real” is: Why would anyone want to fake that personality???
I don’t know anyone personally either, but hearing this interview just floored me.
http://www.npr.org/2016/10/04/496508348/in-ariz-mormon-working-mom-explains-why-shes-supporting-trump
Holy cow Oleanna! That interview is terrifying.
Wow! Unbelievable.
the fact that we see more of old Bill does not help. HC should have told him to back off.
This is the truth. The last thing HRC needs is for Bill to to go off the rails again and give Cheeto & Co. more sound bites that will be used against her. (Bill’s still trying to clear up his remarks re Obamacare from earlier this week. The Big Dog needs to take a time out until after the election.)
I was wondering if they were floating something about national health insurance to gauge the response. It’s the only thing that would really work – Medicare for all.
My best friend — a college-educated engineer, Black Latina, and working mom who out-earns her husband — is a Trump supporter. I asked bc I was incredulous. All I got was a bunch of vaguely rehashed talking points from Fox News. She’s brilliant in some ways but typically doesn’t pay attention to what’s going on outside her own life, so I think her far-right coworkers got to her.
my sisters friend and college, scientist, who is also a black guy, very smart and funny, with PhD, will vote for Trump. he voted for Obama and is disappointed.
we all have dual citizenships and always vote for democrats. we do not need a special reason, it is right there in the name – democracy.
What the hell? I thought black folks were going to save us in this election! Their support for Trump is near zero percent. Dammit!
My beautiful, sweet, kind-hearted, artist mother is voting Trump. It makes my head hurt to try to understand it.
I have a feeling my dad might. He knows how my mom and I both feel about Trump, but in a few cases, he’s tried to defend some of the indefensible things Trump has said and done. He hasn’t said anything about him for a while though, and has since watched the conventions and debate, so I hope he wises up.
One of my sisters is voting Trump. She has a gay grandson and a bi-racial granddaughter that she loves to pieces, but is still voting Trump.
I’m embarrassed to admit that a few of my family members are Trump supporters. I’ve actually had to stop following a few on Facebook just because of the anti-Hillary things they post. Not only are they Trump supporters but they seem to believe anything and everything bad ever written about Hillary. I’d laugh if it weren’t so sad.
Sadly the -type- of women who support trump think sexism is funny and forgivable. In the land of the blind a one eyed man is king.
Trump and I obviously have very different ideas about what we find “entertaining”.
As an American, I am sick to my stomach that about half our population honestly thinks this guy is the next best thing for America as the POTUS?!?!?!?!?!?!? He won’t win, he can’t win…can he?! My husband thinks Trump is better than Clinton(who he thinks is a con artist/head hunter/murderer).
No disrespect to your husband but he thinks HILLARY is a con artist??? O_o
NOT the dude who literally stole thousands upon thousands of dollars from contractors, the guy with an almost $1 billion write-off on his 1995 tax returns that allowed him to avoid federal taxes for decades?
Kitten, I know! We can’t even talk about this election without a fight. Lol. He thinks she’s a giant crook and believe those stories he’s forwarded on how she has people murdered who knew about her email scandals. Ugh. Then I’m like: ‘honey, if you love me you will not vote for someone who would pay me 5 cents to a mans dollar if he thought he could get away with it. If you love me, you won’t vote for someone who thinks a woman’s worth is on how small her dress size is’
and let’s not forget that he uses his “charity” as a personal bank account to pay off legal judgements against him.
@HeyThere-Ha ha…I bet you the family dinner table is pretty lively in your household 😉
I have so much respect for you for putting your marriage ahead of politics. I wish I was as big of a person as you are, truly. I feel petty for being like this but I’m not sure I could even casually date a Trump-supporter at this point. Again, no disrespect to your husband because he’s obviously putting his marriage ahead of politics as well.
My bf is anti-Trump. Not totally pro-HRC but at least anti-Trump.
I know many women with pro-Trump husbands who are wondering what their husbands really think about them. I know I’d be wondering how much he resents me just for being female.
You know men would never support a female candidate who talked about men the way Trump talks about women.
The MRAs would have a field day.
Imagine a female candidate who had five kids by three different husbands, all of whom she cheated on, plus six bankruptcies, 3,500 lawsuits by people she stiffed out of their wages, the looming Trump U court case, AND who just offered bombastic promises and racist attacks as “policy”?
do not fight with your family over politics. if you cannot talk about it, just leave it.
if Trump wins for one vote, then leave your husband *just kidding
Maddow’s is 100% right ! Trumps hasn’t received even 1 endorsement from a newspaper/periodical board. There are so many firsts in this election that it’s difficult to understand why it’s perceived as a tight race. Thankfully however, Fivethirtyeight has Clinton at a 71% advantage
*please be accurate, please be accurate, please be accurate*
78.3% as of this morning. She’s come back strong after the debate, and after Trump continued acting like…Trump.
Hillary is going up in the polls again, lets hope she has a really good debate on Sunday and finish him off for good, only four weeks to go, cant wait!
I’m taking it as a sign from above that the totally conservative Dallas Morning News endorsed HRC. So did the Houston Chronicle, but that wasn’t as big a surprise because Houston tends to be more liberal. Then, The Atlantic endorsed her, only the third time they have endorsed a candidate since the magazine was founded in 1860. The other two they endorsed were Lincoln and LBJ, both chosen because the the country was in a time of crisis. I guess the third crisis is the possibility of Trump!
…..,so it’s funny? And I interpreting that correctly?
sure……….the sexist comments were for “entertainment purposes”. So, what’s the orange skin for – to let us know he’s half baked? Ugh…………….
I seriously believe he thinks that this whole Presidential race is strictly for entertainment and ratings purposes, and that it’s another reality show. He’s playing “The President”. He’s not going to BE a President – he’s just going to play one on TV.
🙂 Great comment!
I love it jus how easy it is to troll him, provoke him. How long has it been now that all of his statements have been trying to explain off accusations instead of telling how he’s going to make US great again? He’s such a joke. Only thing concerning is the 40 something % supporting him.
yeah, for him to say it’s “easy” for him to tone it down and stop saying misogynistic and racist things is kind of a joke.
HRC just had to MENTION Machado and what he said to and about her, and Drumpf couldn’t help himself. and kept it alive for a few more days.
http://www.tatler.com/news/articles/july-2016/donald-trump-worst-quotes
This list is a good START!
Rachel Maddow is awesome.
Love her!
Ah, the old “it was just a joke. Can’t you take a JOKE?” defense. Beloved of bullies, tormentors, misogynists and racists everywhere. My bingo card is filling up fast, y’all.
I was reading the comments on a facebook post about that horrific Watter’s World segment (mistake number one) and the first comment was a classic “it’s funny, why don’t minorities get that asking them about all the gross stereotypes we hold about them is humor? God, when did my country get so SENSITIVE.” I just… what? How can you be so oblivious to the concept of treating other people with respect?
Yes, it’s the stereotypical response of all abusers. It seems that his party is filled with them.
How entertaining was it for the public when he did it privately to many, many women?
Actually, the only paper that has endorsed Donald Trump is the “National Enquirer” — lol.
New York Post too. LOL
I was going to mention the Post too but I guess they’re not a newspaper as much as birdcage liner.
And the NY Observer, belonging to his SIL Jared, scion of a felon.
F**k Donald Trump! Not literally, though. That would be vomit inducing.
When he was young he was attractive but as soon as he opened his mouth he probably turned many women off.
The most deplorable of all his supporters is Ann Coulter. She has stated that anything Donald Trump says or does can be forgiven, as long as he deports millions of immigrants and builds a wall on the Mexican/American border. She is so racist.
He’s openly racist and rude as hell. He doesn’t have what it takes to bring peace and charisma to the White House. We need a born leader, not a snotty little man child who calls people names when they disagree with him!!!!!
Daily mail has even more Playboy stuff– why is this not getting more attention?
Because it’s hardly the worst thing they’ve got on him!
I was watching a new “Vice” episode the other day (Season 4) and he owns a development in Dubai that exploits migrant workers from South Asia (although he claims that it’s not his and he merely “lent his name” to the development). They’re getting paid pennies (much less than they were promised) and can’t return to their home countries because they’re in debt.
I swear to God, this man. He’s not just bad for America, he’s bad for the world at large.
He actually does license the use of his name and doesn’t actually own a lot of things with his name on it. But he’s still making money off them, so I’d hold him partially responsible for bad labor practices. He could insist on decent working conditions and pay as a condition for the license if he wanted to do so.
That’s true Jwoolman. There’s a condo tower here in downtown Toronto that his name is on. When he started winning primaries, the building management said publicly that he didn’t own the building or have any involvement in it bar his name across the top.
I unfortunately know too many women supporting this enema hose. It makes me want to vomit & scream. I’ve never been so stressed about an election before.
I believe there are women who think that they are special, superior to other women, hateful, and therefore untouchable. Obviously not big thinkers. To me Trump=hate, so anyone who voted for him falls into that category and would cease being my friend.
I thinks it is women who have very low self esteem, and think they deserve to a treated badly. Or women with way too much self esteem, who think they are “hot” and therefore would meet Trumps standards. Like that playboy model who was fat shaming women from her gym on Snapchat. She’s probably voting for Trump. Or that awful Tomi Lahren, you know she hates other women.
In these photos he looks like a caricature of himself a screaming lunatic I actually had to stare at them to check if they were real and not Alec Baldwin OMG it scares me that a large amount of Americans want this man to be their leader and I’m on the other side of the world!
I have never been more perplexed by people than I am by the ones who are pro Trump. I have to believe that they must see some part of themselves in his rhetoric, some bias that they don’t normally share in their daily life. I now question friends of mine that are Trump supporters in a way I never did before.
They might assume that because he hires women for high positions, that means he can’t be a sexist pig. But actually, he has said that he believes women work a lot harder than men. Since I’m sure he doesn’t pay the women more, this means he gets more work out of them for the same (or a lesser) amount of money.
A waitress at his resort says that any waitress not up to his physical standards would be sent home on the days The Donald was coming into the restaurant.
C’mon, ladies, get with the program! You all know very well why Donald Trump treats women so badly.
He’s money-hungry…and vagina is expensive.
TIME had an excellent article about Trump’s “keepers”,, Robert and Rebekah Mercer. They are shadowy hedge fund gazillionaires no one can find much out about. The article scared me to my toes. It kind of implied that he would just be a puppet for people really running the show. That said, a woman I work with is voting for him and I am not surprised. When the new American Gestapo starts rounding up dissenters, she is the type that will be informing on family, friends, and coworkers. So if he wins, my goose is cooked.
I wish people of sound mind stop saying they do not know who to vote for. It’s chicken or fish, pick one and vote. How can anyone in their sound mind be confused. This is the soul of the country we are fighting for. Do you want a racist, communist loving, idiot who cannot speak a coherent sentence who is a liar representing your country?, or do you want a woman who is sane, with some flaws, who is not a bumbling idiot representing your country? Imo, the man is not qualified to be dog catcher. By the time next year he may be in prison. His people are always yelling “lock her up” we might be hearing they just locked him up.
Trump makes me nauseous but NO media outlet that positions themselves asthe agent delivering unbiased news to the people should eever endorse a presidential candidate. It’s up to the consumer to make a decision based on the facts he or she reads in the media.
I agree. They should forget about endorsements and just do their real job – providing information about the candidates’ policy proposals, providing a forum for people discussing those issues and the legality/morality of the proposals, and documenting every lie out of the candidates’ mouths. They gave up trying to fact-check Reagan because he lied so often and so smoothly, and they hardly even started with the even bigger liar Trump. If they don’t provide the facts, how are people supposed to make informed decisions?
For most of newspaper endorsements for president it’s not the entire newspaper endorsing, it’s the editorial board. The editorial board is separate from the newsroom.
Sounds like BIG time back-paddling. She is so full of sh*t. He lies about everything.
U2 did a fundraiser concert for children’s hospitals hoping to raise $10 million from it. He did a really great visual on Trump on screen mouthing some of his rhetoric with Bono on stage talking back to him. It’s all over the internet on sites. It was awesome.
@Kitten: out of curiosity you mentioned considering your vote for your mom who is a French citizen. Has your mother never considered becoming a US citizen? I would assume she has been living in the States for awhile. Reason I ask is because my father is also a French citizen but he finally became a US one in 1998 (he had been in the States for 16 years at that point) after my mother pestered him to stop being lazy since at that point it was clear he was there on a permanent basis. And has voted in every election since then. Maybe your mom doesn’t see the need to become a US citizen and that’s fine. But I would argue that you should vote for yourself and not for her. I wouldn’t be considering my father in my vote even if he weren’t a citizen. Plus we’re in different political parties anyways so we often differ on views and candidates. Just food for thought. But regardless vote however you want! Maybe someday your mom will become a citizen and she can vote for herself. 🙂
Here’s the deal, Drumpf: SEXISM ISN’T ENTERTAINING.
I know girls in the Miss USA and Miss America alumni and current hopefuls whose platform are women empowerment causes and guess who they are voting for? Trump. Talk about being hypocritical to their own platform.
Donald Trump may now deny it, but he’s been an ardent atheist for nearly all his life. He’s 70 and heading toward the most horrible moment of his life: death. At one point, he admitted he can’t even say the word, much less contemplate it. Pushing closing to the grave than the cradle, Don Corleone Trump has one thing in mind: Why go down in history when you can take history down with you?
Bottom line, we already learned what happened when people thought that voting for a third party was sticking it to the other parties. We got a President who started wars and got rid of the surplus we had. This election is very similar only Trump and Pence are way more diabolical than Bush and Cheney. Say bye bye to what’s left of reproductive rights, goodbye to job gains and economic growth. Hello wars and unemployment. But at least you would’ve made your vote count, right? Here we are all those years later and no third party has even come close to making it into the inner sanctum when it comes to running for President. I know that’s a negative attitude to have, but it’s the truth. You want a third party to matter, then find a candidate worth supporting.
Rachel Maddow was right – no endorsements for Trump. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspaper_endorsements_in_the_United_States_presidential_election,_2016
Unfortunately, on my Facebook friends’ list, many, many women are supporting Trump. I just can’t understand it.
I keep getting so frustrated with my boyfriend. He despises HRC (he lives in a family where Fox News is always on TV, all his family are supporters except him and his brother) but he also despises Trump. He says voting for Hilary would betray his morals and he’d feel dirty doing it.
I keep losing my shit at him for saying NY is a blue state and so his vote isn’t needed and doesn’t count. Last time we had this discussion he said I’d convinced him to vote for Hilary but I have to keep on him about it because he constantly has his parents muttering about how evil she is in his ear.
His parents aren’t bad people, they’ve just been totally brainwashed by Fox News.
I think I’d like to start a movement in Canada – planning our own wall in case Trump actually does win. 😉
So sick of seeing this douche all over the news.