Nate Parker’s The Birth of a Nation underperformed at the weekend box office, which makes me happy. I’m sure some will say that this is bad news for African-American writer/directors, but I think it should simply be seen as good news for humanity. The African-American community should (hopefully) not claim Parker as one of their much-needed voices in Hollywood, and (JMO) the film’s failures have little to do with Parker’s race and everything to do with his 1999 rape trial and his terrible attempts at explaining himself. Fox Searchlight was tenuously hopeful that The Birth of a Nation would open wide with a $10 million box office – it’s looking more like a $7.5 million box office, if that.
Meanwhile, THR ran a behind-the-scenes piece on Parker’s failure to adequately speak about himself without coming across like a privileged, creepy, offensive alleged rapist. There is one funny story about Nate Parker: he was too dumb to take Oprah Winfrey’s advice. So everything that’s happened over the past few months should be seen as Oprah’s Revenge.
In the beginning, there was Oprah. Winfrey, along with her friend and CBS This Morning anchor Gayle King, was one of the first people to see Nate Parker’s The Birth of a Nation outside of a festival setting. The women were so enthusiastic that they sent the filmmaker a Feb. 1 Instagram video congratulating him. In August, when news reports began to focus on the 1999 rape charges involving Parker and his Birth of a Nation collaborator, Jean Celestin, Winfrey initially seemed ready to help.
Sources say Winfrey suggested Parker address the matter in an appearance with King on her CBS program. But Parker declined. He was angry that what he saw as a consensual, youthful sexual experimentation gone awry had become an issue years later despite his acquittal, and that it was happening just when his Nat Turner passion project was not only finished but positioned as a major Oscar contender.
Since then, Winfrey has remained mum regarding Parker, seemingly depriving the filmmaker of an important voice that might have helped him move past persistent questions that seem to be overshadowing his movie and potentially undermining his career. And Fox Searchlight, which paid a record $17.5 million for the film and hired consultants in an effort to help Parker get on message, is likely shifting its attention this awards season to Jackie, starring Natalie Portman as the former first lady.
Nate Parker might be dumber than Lindsay Lohan! Think about that!! Even Lindsay Lohan TRIED to take Oprah’s advice at some point. Of course, Lindsay screwed it up too, but Parker didn’t even try. Oprah really could have mitigated some of Parker’s PR issues, and Oprah would have given him the soundbyte road map to contextualize the situation. But Parker didn’t want to listen. So now Oprah is staying quiet and letting Parker talk himself out of acclaim. I’m not even a huge believer in Oprah, but if Oprah took the time to give me advice, you better believe I would follow it to the very letter.
Speaking of, THR also says that Fox Searchlight hired seasoned public relations pros to help Parker discuss his rape case in the press, but “They gave him talking points and he just didn’t execute.” Even when Parker was on friendly ground, like his appearance on the Steve Harvey show, Parker screwed it up.
Photos courtesy of WENN.
It’s satisfying to see how his arrogance was finally his undoing.
This 100%!!
agreed. and FFS…who WOULDN’T take advice from the Mighty O?!
even if you don’t like her you can see that she is SUPER media-savvy and could really help in a PR way.
Plus, she has a proven track record with things like this. If nothing else you want her as your friend not your (silent) enemy…
This what she does but then he would have to own up and no longer be the victim in his delusional narrative.
Exactly. It wasn’t stupidity, but arrogance that was his undoing.
Yup! He thinks he’s so smart, but really he’s an arrogant SOB with no remorse whatsoever. He seems to live in complete denial. I knew his pseudo contrition at the beginning of this was a facade. His repeated indignant behavior and attitude is nobody’s fault but his own! I’m glad this movie is failing.
Right?????? Talk about a fatal flaw.
He faked the story too. There was no rape of hi wife, why lie? Supposedly made the rebellion which never happened. The rebellion happened cause of human rights.
Don’t Mind me i’m just here for the Hubris
*continues eating Popcorn*
Wine goes with popcorn right? Is it too early? Who cares!
The ParkerHIVE is in shambles, they’re blaming everybody except black men for this mess. Oh well.
I read about 6 articles about how he rejected Oprah and I smiled through all of them.
*Sprinkles white cheddar seasoning on my popcorn*
Capital “H!”
Nate Parker ultimately destroyed himself, as I always thought. His interviews were absolutely disastrous.
Ugh. Winfrey. Dr?Phil. Dr?Oz. The Secret. She may have great business acumen (after Roger Ebert pointed her in the right direction), but, she’s incapable of critical thinking.
She’s a POS for supporting Parker. She was going to enable him. (Her silence isn’t enough..now)
But Oprah believes strongly in the power of redemption, doesn’t she? Maybe she thought he would repent, see the error of his ways, etc. Or maybe Oprah believes in the power of ratings, I honestly don’t know her well enough to know…
She is big on redemption and I’d can see why a very talented black man telling a story about a controversial (apparently, that was kind of news to me but whatever…) story that hasn’t really been told or been as prominent in the rebelling of American history as he deserves with underpinnings of things that interest her greatly. (Although he apparently botched the spiritual part as well and toned it down and was unable to really use it well.) She knows what goes into making a movie, she knows he was found innocent, she knows he could have inspired conversations that matter to her.
She let a con man who had used her and her platform to make it to the New York Best Seller’s List come on and apologize, she tried to help Lindsay Lohan. I can see why spending time with Nate Parker would hold some appeal to her and be worth her time. Now she and the rest of us know she dodged a bullet.
Lolest. I see what you TRIED to do there, take away some of her credit and heap it on a white dude. FOH. She had already built a successful show that was receiving offers for syndication when she met Roger. By his own account, she asked whether it had been worth the risk for him to syndicate hi show and he simply told her that in his experience, it had. So basically she did what every successful business owner does, generate an idea and then ask around. She would have arrived at the same decision had she just sat down with a pen and her business manager. She is successful because she is a great business woman, period.
On Saturday conservative estimates had it set to bring in 12 million. People did come out for it initially, but it’s actually not a great movie, just a good-ish movie about a great story, so word of mouth had slowed it’s takings down dramatically on Sunday.
Even without the allegations, this was never a film set to win a lot of Oscars. Even the early reviews, pre-scandal, had serious issues with the writing, directing and Parkers performance. All the praise was for the story itself and Parker’s determination to turn it into a film. In an off year it might have still gotten nominated for the major awards, but this is a crazy strong year for film. The scandal has changed the trajectory of Parker’s career, but the film is getting exactly the reception it deserves.
The thing is in the early going many of the reviews early on said that the film wasn’t this amazing triumph the media said it was. The dirty little secret was that the film was always overhyped because of that dumb “OscarsSoWhite” silliness.
I believe people were afraid to criticize the film for fear of being called racist and that annoys me. I’m a black woman and I want more minority representation in Hollywood but nobody should have to pretend that a movie that’s not that great is great solely based on subject matter. Personally I thought it looked like an expensive TV movie judging by the previews.
I agree with you loo it’s conescrnding to the max to champion this as THE oscar contender. Like there are no other fantastic films by African Americans – and others – and women!!! That deserve an Oscar nod. (Anybody catch 13th on Netflix by Ava dufray(sp) awesome documentary
I get where those people are coming from. Some of the black blogs and accounts that I follow or visit from time to time were going on and on about how we should support him because he’s black and that white people were just out for him to fail. They were so sure that this movie was going to do well and white people were going to be made and that’s why his past was brought up. I don’t blame them for feeling that way because there are definitely double standards, but why should I support a rapist and his rapist friend just because we are the same colour?
A coworker and I (he’s black; I’m white) had a discussion about this film. He has a new daughter. He’s supporting the film by seeing it. He said that Parker and Celestin were found not guilty. I asked him if he read the transcripts. He said no, but, he had done some research online and came to the conclusion that they were innocent.
I asked him to read the transcripts, do further research, and, above all else, think about his daughter while learning the truth.
Most people don’t delve into the matter the way people here do. It’s sad.
I understand his desire/need to support black filmmakers. But, there are better movies out there. Also, diverse topics and experiences to be explored. It doesn’t bother my friend that the premise/impetus of Parker’s plot/narrative is false and problematic.
I think that men are less bothered by Parker and Celestin.
I saw Loving at TIFF and it should be promoted for Oscars this year. Ruth Negga is amazing in that film. And Moonlight is also another film that needs to be seen. It is a story about an African American LGBT boy and it also has wonderful performances. Mostly unknown actors so it needs word of mouth.
There are great films out there that can be supported and that aren’t another slave film.
“I get where those people are coming from. Some of the black blogs and accounts that I follow or visit from time to time were going on and on about how we should support him because he’s black and that white people were just out for him to fail”
I saw comments saying exactly that in the Guardian.
@LinaLamont Wtf? But Celestin was actually found guilty, only Parker was acquitted.
Sorry it is Ava duvranay. My bad. And she was robbed for an oscar nom for Selma imo
I finally saw Selma last weekend. It had some serious issues with pacing but overall it was a pretty solid film. I can’t say if it deserved a nom or not until I see the other films that were.
I thought Selma was really boring but I am loving Ava Duvernay’s tv series Queen Sugar. It is awesome!
@Kate – By Saturday at noon estimates were already at $7.1M for the weekend per Deadline Hollywood.
So he’s basically Trump.
how arrogant can you be to say no to freaking oprah
There are many more films by and starring African Americans coming out soon that we can praise instead of this turd. Hidden Figures comes to mind also Moonlight is coming out next Friday. I am so excited for Moonlight. There is also Queen of Katwe, Loving, Fences, and a few films that have Omar Sy starring in them (I know he is French but I love him and thoughtI should mention him).
He comes off as a narcissistic sociopath. If this story is true, I am glad that Oprah and Gayle cut their losses before this story hit. I am not sure why Oprah, who is a survivor of sexual assault would want to champion this loser even for a second, but I won’t judge her harshly, just a long and hard side eye.
Thank you for the recommendations. As you say, there are multiple ways to support diverse film-making and many projects to give money to, without supporting an unrepentant rapist.
If anyone has more recommendations, I’d love to hear them.
Sixer: i’ll add A UNITED KINGDOM to those recommends.
I’ll also throw in THE HANDMAIDEN which is a Korean remake of Sarah Water’s victorian novel/BBC TV show ‘tipping the velvet’.
Thanks, LAK. I’ve read the Waters book, too!
I saw Loving and it was great. I tried to see Moonlight at TIFF but it was sold out before I could get tickets. Moonlight was in the running for people’s choice at TIFF and got a lot of buzz. I will definitely see it when it opens.
Queen of Katwe was good (and directed by a woman! A woman of color!) and I can’t wait to see Hidden Figures.
I’m glad he ignored Oprah and Gayle’s attempt to help him. We got to see exactly who he is.
#HIDDENFIGURES!!
SO can’t wait for this. Original #STEMSisters….yes, it IS rocket science! Plus the trailer looks SO good, and not in that “this has all of the best parts of the movie” sort of way.
I’ve also been told I WILL see Queen of Katwe and Moonlight.
I’d like to point out that gives us TWO opportunities to get a Janelle Monae fix, btw–Hidden Figures and Moonlight.
F*ck Nate Parker. That is all.
huge letdown. why would Oprah do something like that? she should be happy he was such a fool because it would have helped him but would have tarnished her image.
I agree.
that’s so kind of her to help out an unrepentant rapist
I’m glad he was exposed.
I can’t figure out if he just hates women more than he is arrogant and unrepentant about his involvement in the rape of that young woman
He is a Christian. He has sisters, and daughters and his mother. Something something about toxic masculinity. Why do y’all keep bringing up an experience that was traumatic for him? Won’t you think of him?!
He only learned that sexual violence against women is a bad thing once he “owned” a daughter, dontchaknow. Can’t stand it when these idiots wheel out wives and daughters as property they don’t think other men should tamper with as some kind of defence against treating women’s bodies as property. Oh, the irony.
Bahahaha. This.
And let’s be real, that Oprah person is just a ridiculous woman who probably doesn’t even agree no means yes.
Yep. And everyone knows that someone with a mother or daughter or wife could never be a rapist! Oh this guy. And Christians? Christians have NEVER done anything bad. My stomach turns everytime I see his face.
I’m glad he didn’t accept Oprah’s help. I’m glad he isn’t following the advice he’s been given. I’m glad we are getting to see him for who he really is.
Saying that you are a Christian and actually BEING a Christian, as with every religion, are two entirely different things. Just like being a parent doesn’t make you somehow exempt from what you say or do.
People do like to throw these things around, though.
Abby: we agree with you. I am quoting Nate Parker’s own excuses as to why we should overlook this transgression.
@LAK Oh, I know. I was just commenting on how he thinks that suddenly excuses him from everything. I think maybe I should have had coffee before I posted. 🙂
The most interesting part is that THR article was the prognostication about his career moving forward: audiences cared about his unrepentant attitude towards the sexual assault, Hollywood the business certainly doesn’t. Hollywood cares about money. And Nate Parker just showed them that he felt no loyalty to the studio who invested a lot of money into him- he refused to be humble, he refused to follow media training, he refused to put the film’s interests first. So why would any other studio invest more money into him, knowing this scandal will be rehashed and seeing his hubris in refusing to address it?
I thought about it too. He is done. Sure, he probably made some money on this movie. But nobody will touch him with a 10 foot pole now. He is a huge liability.
Being so unrepentant he lost his career but he won’t go to jail. He is denying everything because he doesn’t want to go to jail.
What if he came out now and did what he should have done before this movie? I wonder if Hollywood would ‘take him back,’ as it were?
Wouldn’t it just seem like pandering now? Then again, with people like Polanski and Allen (and many others), Hollywood has proven that they’ll overlook a lot of horrible stuff.
Sure, but considering this guy was involved in a rape case—and is unapologetic and dismissive toward his victim in the present, I don’t think any PR/media spinning could’ve helped anyway…
I mean, when I see an actor/actress I can’t stand in a trailer/featurette, what happens is my eyeballs automatically move sideways—it’s not even a conscious thing/decision where I look away out of spite… Emotionally, I may feel nothing but my body reacts to it, like a reflex (the body just automatically diverts my view to avoid looking at that person, as some sort of ‘mechanism’, maybe a mechanism to survive stress).
Now imagine being a woman (or, worse, a sexual assault/harassment victim) at an auditorium where it’s dark and this guy’s on a big screen. Why would you want to go a cinema, sit through it, and endure that? And then what’s the point?
Yeah, no… I’d pass too.
had Oprah been a male tv personality he would have followed the advice without thinking twice. Of course, being a woman enraged him the most, because how dared she to suggest to him what to do? women are not supposed to be respected you know?
Well good! Didn’t see it and have no intention of seeing it. I’m looking forward to seeing Loving, Hidden Figures & Moonlight though. As a black person in this country I think it’s important to support films about our culture and history but I will not support someone who I believe to be a rapist and stalker. I do wish someone else had made this movie & was telling this story.
Someone else will make another movie on Nate Turner.
In the meantime, how about the 2003 docudrama on Nate Turner by Charles Burnett called NATE TURNER: A TROUBLESOME PROPERTY
http://m.imdb.com/title/tt0354763/?ref_=m_nmfmd_dr_11
Thanks LAK! I’ll check it out.
You have to be dumb as a box of rocks not to consider advice from Oprah. Idiot.
Or just extremely arrogant.
I also find it gross and ironic that rape is used once again as a plot device to spur the “victim’s men” to action.