Here is your Open Post for the second presidential candidate debate, airing tonight at 9 pm on every single channel on your television. Hillary Clinton has not been in front of any cameras since the Trump Tape dropped on Friday afternoon/evening. She has not made any public appearances, and by all accounts, she has been diligently prepping for the debate with mock town-halls. Trump, on the other hand, couldn’t even pay attention for 30 full minutes when he tried to do a mock town-hall last week, and that was before the Access Hollywood tape came out. Now there are reports that Trump basically spent the weekend holed up in Trump Tower, stewing in his own orange pervert juices and growing madder and more unhinged as big-name Republicans began fleeing the Trumpster Fire.
There’s actually a lot of cause for concern on all fronts. An animal is at its most dangerous when it’s wounded, and that’s applicable here. No one knows what Donald Trump is going to do in the debate, how far he will go and what he will try to hang on Hillary. No one even knows what kind of language he’ll use, if he’ll actually try to apologize again or if he’s just going to attack, attack, attack. But that’s why HRC’s silence is so important too: sources say that Clinton made a conscious choice not to respond to Trump on camera this weekend because she wanted her reaction to have the biggest impact on live TV, on the debate stage, in front of tens of millions of viewers. While I do think Trump is going to say some nasty sh-t to HRC to her face, I also think that the reaction in the room is going to be immediate and Trump will obviously overplay his (tiny, delicate, child-like) hand.
Reportedly, debate moderators Martha Raddatz and Anderson Cooper are already allocating the first few questions of the night to the Trump Tape. And a coin toss means that Hillary Clinton gets the first question. Which is… wow. The first few minutes are going to be amazing. Also: some political commentators are trying to make this a thing: “Should Hillary shake Donald Trump’s hand?” Why is that a thing? What is she going to do, ball up her fists and stomp her feet when she sees him? HRC is a seasoned pro – please don’t make this about juvenile “she shouldn’t even touch him!” bulls—t.
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Rather than prepare to discuss relevant matters in a civil way, one candidate chooses to hold a cheap pre-debate spectacle to focus on unfounded claims.
Desperation and deflection on overdrive. I have never seen anything like this, and the debate hasn’t started!
Trumpster Fire
Hahahaha. Make America Grope Again.
Good description! MSNBC is already playing HIS defense of Bill in 1998. He called one of the accusers a loser, among other things.
Methinks someone is going to have a bad case of the Mondays once the media blasts him over this stunt.
Chuck Todd taking down Giuliani’s defense of Trump, today.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/10/09/watch_nbc_s_chuck_todd_leave_giuliani_speechless.html
Trumpster fire! Love it, Kaiser!
JFC he is a psychopath. I hope they have security. It would not surprise me if he tried to physically harm her.
You mean grab her by the pussy?
HRC a psychopath? What does that make The Donald after orchestrating that stunt before the debate? Trumps number have fallen tremendously with independent women voters in the last two weeks. His own VP nominee is MIA as of tonight. Over sixteen Republic Senators (it may be more after this) have run for the hills. The Republic Committees attorneys are actively talking about dropping him as of tomorrow from the Presidential ticket.
Hillary? No the orange devil is the psychopath not her. I’m legit fearful for her safety. The man is unhinged.
I’m glad someone else is stoned besides me.
Yeah she meant Trump. Jesus, he is a terrible human.
“Very very bad. A disaster. Bad. Very bad. Rates are going up. I have plans that are SO good. Extremely good. Plans you’ve never seen before. Strongly…” SNIFF
The good news already is that apparently Billy Bush won’t be on the Today Show tomorrow (or ever again hopefully).
First time I heard the tape, I focused on DT’s words. Since then, I’ve listened more carefully and am more sickened by Billy’s reactions. He was an active participant, IMO.
yes
Agreed. Bush comes equally disgusting, he was enthusiastically participating. Nothing nervous at all about his hearty laughter, and he was clearly shouting out about the women (including the one Trump called “it”.) 100% happy and totally into this behavior.
And then getting out of the car and asking the woman hug The Donald is a weird power play and social dynamic which clearly made her uncomfortable.
I’d love to accept the 11 year he’s a “changed man” argument, but he’s been married to the same woman since 1998, he has three daughters and the eldest is 18.
Does Billy Bush deserve to lose his job or just a lengthy suspension? If he gets fired it will be hard for him to find another job based on his newly acquired infamy. He does have a family to support and we have to think of the children going without because he played cheerleader to Trump’s male Bravado. Billy should offer a HEARTFELT apology to women and beg for forgiveness. Now Trump on the other hand can rot in hell.
I’m not sure if I would feel bad to have Billy Bush off of the air, or if he couldn’t find another job. He’s a frat boy who used his connections to get to where he is. I don’t think I would mind seeing him struggle for many years for that damn hug alone.
I can’t feel sorry for Billy Bush, especially if the argument is he has three kids to support. He wasn’t some first generation immigrant working at a gas station, tricked by someone more powerful. He’s been on tv for years, and comes from a famous/rich family. He did offer an apology, where he basically said he was immature…at 33. Give me a break.
“If he gets fired it will be hard for him to find another job based on his newly acquired infamy. ”
YES! Let;s worry about his future!
As opposed to worrying about Nancy O’Dell, in whose harassment he colluded, whom Trump later tried to fire for being pregnant/ “unattractive”/ saying no to him.
Either what he said was unacceptable and he should lose his job, or it was acceptable and he shouldn’t. His family status has ZERO to do with it.
And yes, it was unacceptable and he should lose his job.
If Bush loses his job, it will be because of his past history with the network, prior infractions, and prior discipline. Meaning, if he loses his job, it will be because this incident, which occurred a decade ago, would not be the first infraction for which he received discipline of some sort.
People who have done absolutely nothing wrong lose their jobs every day in lay-offs or discriminatory actions and their employers don’t factor their need to support children into any decisions.
Besides, Billy Bush’s family could help him out, if it hasn’t already provided him with a rather healthy trust fund.
Billy Bush, has wealthy family connections, perhaps they can assist in securing him other employment opportunities, should this suspension turn into termination.
Lolo86, he’s a member of the Bush clan, nephew to one ex-pres and first cousin to another. He’ll be JUST fine. And, yes, he should be fired — he’s a liability to the show’s ratings, even if the execs don’t care about his behavior.
Here’s a link to a Twitter thread with another Billy Bush anecdote showing similar lack of judgement when meeting a woman in a professional setting:
https://twitter.com/saucissonsec/status/784558445391388672
F- Billy Bush!
He might surprise us and start off all humbled and apple-izing to his wife and daughters for his behavior, and the women in the tape, and all women, very sincerely. That would be the smart thing to do, but we’re talking about Trump. That would amount to humbling himself and apologizing, which I think this narcissistic, sexist, asshole man-baby is incapable of even faking for the debate.
I think he’s going to go nuts.
Carville is saying that DT is overweight, tired and just plain angry. “Politically, he’s very, very stupid,” he just said. Sums it up!
Someone would first need to remind him that he has two daughters before he can apologize to them.
He’s on tape telling Stern that it’s okay to refer to Ivanka a “a piece of ass”. He himself calls Ivanka “voluptuous”.
I don’t think reminding him that he has daughters would make a difference.
I agree. I heard a clip of the Stern interview. Stern said that Ivanka is a nice piece of ass and Trump responded, “yeah”.
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Okay UGH AT THE PRESS CONFERENCE TRUMP IS RUBBING about Bill Clinton.
Annnnnnnnd Billy Bush is suspended.
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+I wish I was on my iPad, so I could post the praise hands emoji.
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Agree with this so much 😍
Agreed. I come here to hear sensible commentary, and I’m never disappointed. While I consider myself educated and well-spoken, the commenters here frequently articulate complex thoughts FAR better than I ever could have. THANK YOU ALL
Ditto! I am a more socially aware woman because of this site. It’s educated and amused me and helped put my life experiences as a woman into a new perspective. This is like the graduate seminar of Comments sections.
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Late as usual but happy to add my +1000000000000000000
Donald Trump , with his before debate news conference,has just made assault on women , a dog and pony show before the debate.
It made me feel sick in the pit of my stomach.
It really is a sickening feeling.
I had no idea he did that until now.
This has worried me all along…
“That lead has given some of her longtime aides pause: if the past is prelude, this is exactly when Clinton chokes.”
“’She has, historically been a really horrible front-runner,’ conceded one veteran of her 2008 campaign. ‘She’s extremely cautious and risk-averse, and it causes her, ironically, to make mistakes.’ Another longtime aide added: ‘Finishing the deal has been hard for her in many contexts. Nobody in her universe is fully confident until it’s actually over.’”
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/clinton-team-girds-for-all-out-assault-229388
Also..a great tweet:
” Pumpkin Spice CeeJay
@ceejayoz
Trump won’t drop out. Hey, Republicans, how does it feel to be forced to carry something to term?”
“Trump won’t drop out. Hey, Republicans, how does it feel to be forced to carry something to term?”
^^^^^^^^
Lolololol!!!! That is the BEST comment ever! LOVE it! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👍🏻👍🏻
There is a hilarious Meme of Pence pregnant carrying the Republican elephant in his stomach.
LinaLamont, “how does it feel to be forced to carry something to term”: that is the question of the hour — brilliant!
O.M.G. That quote is everythang.
I literally cannot wait to see what Trump is going to do tonight. He seems really mad. I read a weekly article a couples of months ago written by Ann Coulter and she discussed how Hillary intimated one of Bill’s lovers into not telling the media about the affair. Supposedly Bill sort of raped the woman and Hillary threatened her so she would not press charges. Ann Coulter states that what she describes in her article is all true. This is horrible.
Ann Coulter?!?! The one in love with The Wall?!?!
First you are defending Billy scum Bush now you are trying to deflect Trump’s misogyny. Really?
Nicole Wallace: “This is the bottom dropping out, this is what it looks like.” I believe her.
The RNC has begun redirecting funds. He’s over.
But then what??? Scary mofo Pence???? He frightens me way more than Trump.
Interestingly, Little Darling, the VP is a separate nomination, so Pence would not become the presidential nominee. The GOP would actually have to choose another candidate to run with Pence as their VP!
Except that the deadline for that has already passed in a number of states, and early voting is underway. Don’t think it’s possible at this point.
I love Nicole Wallace.
From your (Wallace’s mouth) to the electoral college’s ears. But, “it ain’t over till it’s over”.
Well, let’s all wish up a whole lotta light and shine it right on Hillary, right now.
I can’t believe I had to tell my 11 and 13 y o that they couldn’t watch the debate until I watched it first so I could be prepared to answer their questions. 😔
It is sad and really inexcusable that youngsters interested in civics may not be able to watch this debate.
Yep. Told my 13 year old to stay inside.
i’m seeing women defend him on my Facebook page
the internalized misogyny is sad
I defriended a few women on FB tonight. I just can’t…
50% of women denounce Trump. The other 50% denounce their self respect.
So true. Any woman who votes for him has no self respect.
#sniff #sniff
Lisa, I’ve experienced it so many times. Trying to stay positive and focused, reminding myself as Kaiser stated, it is a type of Stockholm syndrome.
Let’s do this Anderson. We are counting on you!!
Pretty disappointed in Anderson right now. He’s allowing trump to not answer questions, go off topic. Very disappointed.
Children of the corn just came in. With their big sister Melania.
Trump is despicable.
Hillary looks great.
He sniffed!!! Or his microphone is broken again…..
He’s sniffling again. LOL What is going on?
OMG the sniffs are going to save us!!
Hah! We posted at the same time. 🙂
The sniffing is back. Bigly.
The sniffing is out of control. It’s like every other word. Does he have a stamina problem that causes him to get so out of breath from just talking?!?
It sounds like sniffing combined with being short of breath.
Random thoughts — I could show up with no preparation and yap about buzzwords like he’s doing. I hope to see a transcript of this, because he is rarely saying a complete sentence.
He sniffed over 90 times. I say he’s on something.
Yup. Maybe the guy has allergies that mysteriously only strike at debate time, but I think it’s a lot more likely that he pumps himself up for these encounters with Bolivian marching powder.
He’s sniffling
His sons have matching sympathy comb overs! His sons have matching sympathy comb overs!!
SNIFF!!! Why does he keep doing that??!!!
Allergies? Cocaine? Take your pick.
He sniffed over 90 times. WTF!!!!!
Yes!! Pleasegodmakeitstop.
SNIFF!
Also ILY Anderson Cooper
im so glad anderson said it assault
and the answer contains the word isis????
Trump the bullsh1t artist.
This^^
What is that called?! There is a thing for a “look- it’s worse over there” defense…..and it’s crap.
It’s called deflect. Pivot. Deflect. Pivot.
The blame game. I know you are but what am I.
But deflection is the most fitting.
Yes- deflect for sure and I found the fallacy I was thinking of….it’s perfect for how he started. Found this on the interweb:
The “not as bad as” argument, also known as the fallacy of relative privation,[2] is a form of the moral equivalence fallacy that takes note of the existence of things that are worse than what is actually under discussion—for different purposes, as outlined below.
It’s popular with people who know perfectly well they’re doing something wrong; being fully aware that they’re doing something wrong, they feel compelled to attempt to justify it and do so by pointing to other (usually worse) actions.
I am loving Anderson Cooper.
You FUCKING liar Trump. You WERE proud.
So his stance is the same. Deflect. Deflect.
If I hear the term Locker Room Talk again I’m going to spit on my tv.
Yay Anderson. Love him.
The only border we need in this country is the border around Donald’s mouth.
Preach, LD. My teenage son keeps recoiling at all the crap he’s throwing. And he’s barely been following this race.
Yes!! Oh my god my crush on Anderson has never been stronger.
Like MEGA. I am beyond thrilled he is the moderator tonight because he is not taking this shit calmly.
I have a major girl crush on Martha Raddatz right now.
The silver fox strikes! Go Anderson!
locker room talk. ISIS. ISIS. locker room talk. ISIS, ISIS.
Let’s not talk about me bragging about sexual assault, ISIS is more important and the administration of the EEOC, which is the President’s job, is irrelevant! ISIS! We need to talk about ISIS! Pay no attention to that jerk behind the curtain. ISIS!
It’s locker room talk. Oh, and now he’s sniffing about Bill.
He is sniffing and sounds winded already. He may be out of steam (gas?) by the end of the first hour.
ISIS is the new Mexico.
He just played the Bill card. SNIFF, SNIFF.
Clinton did not pay any fine to Paula Jones. Clinton WON the Jones case and then paid a settlement to end her numerous appeals. The settlement didn’t even cover her legal fees.
I did not know that, thanks. Can you post it on pro trump sites? 🙂
Holy cow. He is infuriating!
Just talks and talks!
Oh, he’s going to LOCK HER UP!!! SNIFF, SNIFF.
He makes my skin crawl. Now he is threatening her!!!
Hillary is taking the high road and I love it. Her follow up answer to Trump’s non-sensical rebuttal to the first question was so beautiful and inclusive that I started crying. I feel sorry for being sucked into the Killary hype at first.
As for Trump if he doesn’t have anything better besides “I know who you are, but what am I” he needs to go the f*ck home.
She gave me goose bumps too….I loved it.
Did he just threaten her?
Did you see how she moved further away from him while he did?
Yeah I can’t believe he said that. He is completely unhinged.
Now the threats. She is loving it. She can handle this.
Hillary; I don’t give a damn about who needs to ask questions…
He threatened her? Then the crowd cheered when he said shed be in jail if it was up to him. 😓
We just walked in the door at that moment, I couldn’t believe it. Who is this audience? Seems like the moderators were trying to get them in line.
I find those cheers absolutely terrifying. Terrifying. There are vocal people who still want to vote for and support this despicable person. Our future is in jeopardy. Terrifying.
Yeah, Anderson tried to shut it down pretty quickly. I am enjoying the moderators this time
Who the eff is this audience? I need a drink….
“Audience of undecided voters” – yeah, right.
I think “undecideds” are people embarrassed by their choice or eager for media attention.
The first debate’s audience may have been undecided, but I doubt if many for this one were. The first audience seemed to follow the rules, this audience has a significant number who don’t. Only Trump supporters would behave the way they did, that’s what happens at his rallies.
hahahaaaaa. let’s fa(c)t check donald
ETA but donald is trying to stay calm breathing heavily thru that nose..and still talking around and not answering questions because isis and 33 000 mails..
Hee, hee, hee!
He is trucking in conspiracy theories now. His base loves this.
He is such a shameless piece of s%^t.
Whoa, it’s getting ugly already!
I am so glad it calmed down…..that was nuts!
The Big Whiney Baby has finally emerged. Everybody is ganging up on me. Waa-waa-waa. Give Donnie his pacifier.
He is whining that it is 3 against 1 and complaining that Cooper isn’t asking about the emails even though the last question was about the emails
Donnie whines and complains. “I’m being ganged up on. Poor me.” It’s his go-to line.
Hillary, being a woman, has never had that luxury in the political realm, as it would be seen as weak, but, more importantly, it is not in her nature.
He keeps waving those tiny hands. SNIFF, SNIFF.
I love how he keeps unconsciously flashing the loser sign. Poor Donald revealing his deepest sense of self.
Sniffling again, was he tooting before the debate?
The 2016 Presidential DEFLECTION.
Yes. I don’t even know what to say. Sniff.
Little Darling I love you rn 💖
Lol yessssss!
WHY DID HE JUST COME FOR CANADA. I HOPE HE GETS TRAMPLED BY A MOOSE
Me too!
@Lynnie
Do you live in Canada? If Trump wins, can I come live with you?
I wish haha. I was thinking more Australia if worst comes to worst. Sydney is absolutely beautiful I hear, and I’d love to go with a fellow CBer 😊
LYNNIE! Australia is my go to as well!!! Shrimp on the Barbie!
Don’t forget the accents! 😍😍😍
Prawns Ladies ……….. we don’t call them shrimp here lol
From Canada – I don’t know anyone who’s gone to the US for surgery – wtf is he talking about?
there’s a boy from canada currently in minnesota (jonathan pitre). canadian government covers part (i think more than a half) of the expenses and a charity is covering the other part.
When Canada cannot handle it due to being a smaller country, a province may well send patients to the USA. It’s a matter of scale and practicality.
The only people I hear of going the States are to Arizona for plastic surgery and those going for experimental trial treatments, but those are really rare. Canada’s health system is doing fine, even though we do have wait time challenges. I wouldn’t trade it for possible bankruptcies ever.
We’Re in Canada and hooted when he said that. He has no idea what he’s talking about.
He probably doesn’t realize that the system still pays even if the medical work is done in the USA.
Answer the f-in question Don!!!!
Answer the question Clare.
He never gives a valid policy as far as specifics. It’s bull. All vague promises with no solutions.
Anyone laying bets he’ll deny sniffing? Or blame it on ISIS? Or on Hillary?
oh.my.god what is he doing to that Muslim woman?! I would cry in frustration if I was her. That was not an answer to her question.
He doesn’t answer any questions. His people crammed about three talking points in his thick head and that’s all he can go to.
They trained him for the debate like they trained Sarah, with index cards and pivoting to talking points.
Oh, thanks. Right off the bat he is talking about violence when the woman asked the question about helping Muslims in America. That does not help my cousin’s little kid who is right now getting bullied in Kansas City at his school every day, because he’s Muslim!! Ugh!!
Can’t wait until that woman is interviewed after the debate
I noticed all the undecided voters that asked questions took pictures with Hillary afterwards
Trumps went back to the cornfield. They all looked shell shocked.
I hope he doesn’t get off for that horrible hypothetical he posed about Captain Khan may he RIP
I hate the people in that audience that look so stressed & crazy. I probably would too but damn, some of them look intense in a kind of creepy way.
That audience sucks.
Hey Kitten! Man, this is stressful but she’s doing well. I wish I could pass this to you right now…..
They bite. Orange tic tacs probably. Glad you’re here guys.
This is super stressful. I hate him so much, MC2. I despise him.
Remember that Ferguson, MO is close to St. Louis. There are tons of racist Trumpers who I’m sure have done everything they can to get into this debate. Bunch of racists twits.
MC2, I’ll take a puff. I’ve been sitting here holding mine but I am so involved I keep forgetting to take it!
I’m scared…I’m scared that people will really believe this guy.
He is so awful.
Not surprising, because supposedly the audience is undecided. Supposedly.
Man, Trump has the bleakest view of our country. Like he just straight-up hates the United States.
Sadly, it does seem that Trump has a very poor view of our country. He has a “Messiah” complex. He is going to save our country from itself.
Every other sentence: “disaster.”
He is lying about refugees
He is lying about everything
THIS!
He’s nothing more than an overgrown playground bully.
He’s throwing a bunch of wild punches, not connecting on any. He is so desperate.
Bingo. But the deplorables love it.
But Jayna if they are this enthusiastic about him then they will likely go out and vote. I’m concerned that there are too many who feel certain that he can’t when with all of these disasters and so won’t be motivated to vote. The hate will motivate Trump supporters to vote. It is terrifying.
I’m not worried about his base of supporters. They are always with him. What is important and will make this election are where the undecideds go. That’s where these debates help them make their decision. I hope they are intelligent enough not to fall for Humpty Dumpty. If Hillary gets a lot of those, she’s strong.
Does that moron not realize he’s on a split screen while he’s strutting and preening and making faces while Hillary responds? SNIFF, SNIFF.
He sounds like a raving lunatic. He’s going on and on but saying NOTHING. I’ve never seen anything like this before. It’s like a really bad skit, like satire.
Except it’s not
No I didn’t assault them. You misunderstood. Isis. I’m going to kick Isis’s butt. I’m embarrassed and apologize to my family. Isis Isis Isis Isis.
I was JUST Thinking the same thing. He might as well be the damn Charlie Brown teacher.
WHY IS THE AUDIENCE CLAPPING??
Oh my god you guys is this real? He hasn’t answered one effin question! This is crazy…he should not be anywhere NEAR the Oval Office.
He is just a superb idiot.
Yes Kitten they do and they vehemently defend him, which is what worries me. I’m in GA and he has tons of support, among all classes, races and genders. Please do not underestimate his support 🙁
He stood behind her in a menacing way. Not a good look in light of the tape.
He’s imitating Alec Baldwin. LOL
Why is Cheeto allowed to prowl and pace into her territory? Gore did this once and they acted like he almost assaulted W. He should not be able to taunt into his microphone while she’s talking.
I don’t appreciate that despite the moderators repeatedly requesting Donald to stop interfering while Hillary speaks, he continues to ignore it.
He interrupts the moderators too when they are switching to a different question.
Why doesn’t Donald candidly answer the question about paying federal income taxes?
“I pay tax, and I pay federal tax, too. But I have a write-off.”
Okay…so he loves depreciation. Answer the question, how many years were the taxes not paid?
👏👏👏👏 Martha fact checked Littlle Donnie. Hillary did not go over time.
I can’t be the only one thinking Alec is Donald during the debate, right?
LOL
Yes, alec nailed it.
god, i want to slap donald. he is just ugh…what a miserable miserable being.
i don’t understand how any woman can support him. or anyone for that matter.
+1
Go Martha! War Crimes and Syria. Great question. Donnie doesn’t know what she is talking about……
Kudos to the moderator, Martha, for reiterating the question about Syria. She basically outlined the entire question into sizeable chunks for him to understand.
I don’t think he still gets the question or the topic.
Welp…Pence just quit.
“We haven’t spoken. I disagree with him. “
What?!
Joke.
Cracks between him & Pence! Wow!
I love it!😀
I do too- I will be waiting to hear what Pence says about all this & Pussygate tomorrow. He must be so pissed right now!
He just contradicted what Pence said their Russian policy is.
Donald and Pence are not in sync on issues.
You can see on Hilary’s face that she cannot believe that this moron is what she has to debate against. I am LOVING Martha just grilling Trump about specifics. Get him! (I also want to say that I am so glad that I have a place like Celebitchy to come read posts and comments by smart, intelligent women who understand the importance of this election.)
She looks like she’s smelling a rank odor. And she is.
OMG when the African American man asks a question the first thing in Trump’s answer is INNER CITIES. He is so racist.
Yes! That’s his way of saying black people have guns and violence and that’s why they get shot by cops. Which is total b.s., as if only blacks have guns and violence. Is he not aware of Asian and Hispanic gangs on the west coast? Black people are being shot by racist cops for b.s. “reasons.” The Manhattan bomber got in a shootout with cops, was not killed. The guy who killed five people in a mall, apprehended without getting killed. The kid on flakkka who was eating his victims face when cops came on the scene, did not get shot and killed. I guess they weren’t dangerous *rolls eyes*. But some reason, cops are very good at killing black men. Then their record, if they have one, is posted, as if that was good reason for them to be shot and killed.
I just saw a great screen cap of that guys face when Trump starts “answering” his question.
I thought the exact same thing!! Just because he’s black he lives in an inner city? You moron!!!
Racist answer to the black man. Does Donnie just think black people live in the inner cities?
Black, Hispanic, and other minorities.
And ugly, old, fat women.
Yep.
Donald proclaims that he will be a great president.
Sure, I believe it. He will remain devoted and be a great president while denigrating religious freedoms, using the “N” word (it’s on the Apprentice tapes), women, people with disabilities, and races.
How is he truly going to bring the entire country from “disaster?” How many times has he used this word since this debate began?
Unfortunately, as someone who is not in the US so don’t identify as republican or democrat in the american sense – I think the Donald is doing a good job stirring up fears and populist support. He is saying what people want to hear.
He’s saying what deplorable people want to hear.
Yes, he is saying what that segment want to hear. It is very childish, just blame everyone and simplify hugely complex issues.
However, I wouldn’t be surprised if he makes a bounce back. I don’t like either candidates to be honest. It is terrible election year.
Yep. This is all he has to do: just mirror their fears right back to them. Validate them. Remind them of how awful this America is and reassure them that he can make America great again and their lives won’t suck anymore.
Trump-supporters are so fearful and he makes them feel better.
He just said there are no jobs in the inner city & nothing to lose. Wtf?! Reminds me of when B. Bush said that people were better off in the dome after Katrina because it was nicer then their homes.
And she expressed fear that they would never leave. Cannot stand that woman.
Did Cheeto really claim Captain Khan would be alive if HE were president.
Yes. He’s said it before.
Clinton needs to stay grounded. Don’t go over the time limit. I can understand that she may be frustrated.
I like what she said earlier about Medicare being a single payer system. No one seems to have a problem with Medicare. But bring up single player health system and people start screaming socialism.
Also, so much that Trump screams about, he does. He calls her hateful, but I he talks crap about everybody. And bills affairs? Trump’s a cheater, how can he say anything? He calls her a liar, so is he ! Do people not see the irony in this?! I’ve come to the conclusion that people want anybody but Hillary, so they will literally take anyone else. Because how else can Republicans endorse trump, who literally embodies everything they say they are against
I know! He’s so narcissistic and so deluded.
Good answer on Supreme Court Hillary!
Is Donnie really talking about the Constitution? He hasn’t a clue.😂😂
Dear Trump,
Clean Coal is a myth. It does not and never will exist. It is propaganda.
Sincerely,
The World
I’m bothered that Cheeto, as a man, can glower, frown, sniff, and snarl. Yet Hillary, as a woman, has to continually grin like a pageant contestant. Yet she will probably be called shrill, abrasive, and bitchy. And Cheeto’s just being himself. Whatchagonnado?
Donald was toned down compared to the last debate. LOL They must have worked on him. I wanted him to lose it more.
Phoebe Robinson was on NPR discussing the angry black woman trope and by extension, how women in general are expected to present a certain way. She did this great bit about how she doubts Putin ever worries about ‘resting bitch face’.
But yeah, I’m with you about Hil having to maintain this perfect smiling facade and she can’t lose her composure for a second while Trump gets the green light to make faces that are even scarier than his regular one.
But she has to be careful about the smile because some describe it as smug. She just can’t win with some people.
Yeah, I had friends who said they thought Hillary should have been more aggressive in the discussions. But are you kidding me? She would be hung out to dry if she pushed too much, because patriarchy won’t allow women to let it all hang out. They tie our hands behind our backs and then taunt us for not throwing punches. She had to stay calm, she had to be the adult in the room. I think she did a good job.
THE LAST QUESTION
HER ANSWER
IM SCREAMING
SHADE
What did she say? I quit watching, I was so angry.
The last question was basically along the lines of, “Despite all the rhetoric your campaigns have thrown out can you at least say something nice/you admire about the other person.” And Hillary goes,
“Well he has loyal kids”
I legit started cackling 😂😂😂
Hillary is such an impressive woman with her great intellect and coupled with common sense.
Agreed. Love her.
Interesting question, “…One positive thing you respect in each other.”
What did they answer? I quit watching before we got to that part.
She said his children are loyal.
He said she never quits.
Clinton said that she respects his children. She also mentioned that they are “incredibly able and devoted.” He is proud of his children.
Trump said that Clinton “doesn’t quit” and “doesn’t give up” and that’s a very good trait.
Hillary said she respected his children (like, they turned out fine despite being raised by an a-hole). And he said Hillary “never quits” (because I’m sure he wishes she’d just quit already).
Donald Trump “loves depreciation”. Fu*k you Cheeto.
How does a President who loves depreciation ensure that the rich pay their taxes? Truly…how?
His best answer would be about her 😪
It’s one of the things I love about her.
You are absolutely right, Trump. She does not quit. Thank goodness for it.
Did you folks notice that Trump loomed with his family much longer at both the debates while Clinton began to communicate with the audience much sooner.
I noticed that. Even bill was going over and getting involved.
Women are actually posing for pics with that slimeball.
I weep for humanity. These women are just sad souls.
Yeah, I noticed that too. SMH. I think he was told not to touch them and he just kept giving a thumbs up in the pic:
😑👍 (that’s about his color)
Maybe I’m biased, so maybe it’s just me… But did the main women in his life (Melania and Ivanka) look tired, worn-out, and beaten down? It was sad (and I don’t mean that in a mean way at all).
Chelsea greeted Ivanka and I saw she didn’t look as miserable… But I guess when mommy’s issue is that she deleted like 30,000 emails, it just doesn’t drain the life out of you as a woman, does it?
probably because they just had to deal with Donald and his team wanting to put the men who have accused Bill Clinton of assault with them in the family but it was a big showdown 3 minutes before the debate started. Stress and tension show.
Can Anderson and Martha moderate the next debate too? They did a commendable job with this debate.
Anyone else see how Trump totally ignored his other daughter? (Sorry forget her name but she’s Marla’s daughter.)
ETA: Tiffany
I feel so sorry for her. While she was growing up, he saw her a few times a year. She is so trying to win his approval. When she gave her speech at the RNC, he didn’t stick around to watch her and show his pride and support. She must have been so nervous. He got on his private jet and flew home instead. What a pig.
Why does he hate her so much? He’s the one who decided to have an affair with Marla
That’s nothing new. He does that frequently.
He hugged and kissed Ivanka, shook his son’s hands and I think may have kissed his daughter in laws and Tiffany (who wasn’t even sitting with that group) runs over to him and puts her hand on his arm and he brushed her off and walked away. 😱
Guess she’s not “beautiful” enough for him. Probably a good thing too – just in case he starts kissing her.
Trump ignoring his daughter with Maples makes me very sad. :/
Ivanka pretty much ignored Tiffany too. The brothers seemed a bit more receptive to her but not by much.
His kids with Ivana didn’t grow up with Tiffany, so she’s basically a stranger to them. They also may be dealing with resentment of her mother. The kids were old enough at the time to know what was going on and be very angry about it. They were also angry with Donald, but they’re hoping to cash in from him now.
I think the older 3 are so much a part of the brand that the younger 2 will have hard time integrating themselves. Also, she and Baron (who is also never present for this stuff) are a reminder that he had affairs and multiple marriages.
Blech…Pence is still in.
Pence tweeted that Trump won the debate. “Proud to stand with you as we.” He is right back on board.
Godspeed Pence!
Wow- Pence is really selling his soul. Not that he had much to sell to begin with….
Abraham Lincoln after tonight: I would very much like to be excluded from this narrative, one I have never asked to be a part of.
LMAO. Yes, but I still think he’d much rather be name-dropped by Hillary than Trump, Exhibit A: http://www.vice.com/read/vice-on-hbo-dubai-workers-trump-international-golf-club
I’m surprised no one else mentioned this: was I the only one put off by his repeated use of third person when talking to and about HC? “SHE did, SHE didn’t, it was because of HER”. As if she were an empty space. That was demeaning and disrespectful. I didn’t see the entire debate, but I paid close attention to her responses: never once did she do the same. She always called him “Donald”. That alone makes my blood boil because in it, I see a crystallization of every issue we as women have with Trump and his candidacy, and his ignorance, disrespect to women, his crassness, his ego, his disregard for manners and protocol, etc.
He also called her the devil if I remember correctly and threatened to have her investigated and jailed. That’s the first thing he’s going to do as President apparently. I guess he forgot how important defeating ISIS is like when he said it was more important than his locker room banter.
I noticed he tried to pretend she was not worthy to be addressed by name. Hillary stayed classy and good for her. She won two poles, one was cnn. Not the online pole.
Have you seen/heard that recent Giuliani quote: “Don’t you think a man who has this kind of economic genius is a lot better for the United States than a woman?”
First, “economic genius”, LOL. Second and mainly, their point, unconscious or stated outright is that her very gender is disqualifying. The ladies are there for fun only, and then only with a cut-off of age 35 according to the Cheeto Mussolini.
YES. Thank you for pointing this out.
My mom said the exact same thing, he has absolutely no respect for women and that is crystal clear, at least he didnt refer to Hillary as an ‘it’ which he referred to the women in the video.
Anyone notice the extremely cold reception Melania gave Trump post-debate? She didn’t make eye contact and presented a cheek to be kissed.
I also noticed that she was out of her virginal white campaign wardrobe theme. Maybe that was an FU to whatever Trump idea was pushed on her in that regard.
I thought both she and Ivanka looked sad (and I don’t say that in a way to be mean like they looked ‘pathetic’, I’m talking about the negative emotion, triste) and tired. The women in his life looked worn-out and beaten down. I feel bad for the women in his family (including the other daughter I didn’t even know he had because he apparently won’t acknowledge her and likes to pretend she doesn’t exist).
And she was wearing a pussy bow blouse.
“Oh please Little Darling…come on. who gives a rats ass…there are more important issues then this bull shit…”
A real woman’s response to me when I commented on that 50 shades meme when I said it wasn’t the word it was ‘m fairly certain the rage isn’t about the word pussy, I’m pretty sure the rage is more about the sexually predatory nature the comment evokes. The fact that he thinks women’s pussies are for him to grab. That’s sexual assault and it has no place in society.
Hear you Little Darling, our office split down the middle. Either side completely shocked with the other side and outraged. Sigh. I was called a feminazi today (by a younger female co-worker) because she asked me if i was happy that DT woulld finally put HRC behind bars, where she belonged. Well if that means I’m an intelligent HRC supporter who doesn’t bow down to bullies, yes then call me whatever. Since when is hate so valued?
It takes a very strong and disciplined woman to do what hillary did tonight. Good for her.
The irony. Last time, Trump said HRC doesn’t have a presidential look because of her lack of stamina. This time, the thing he respects about her, her stamina (she doesn’t quit, she’s a fighter).
Since Trump’s comments have been made public, I have actually had to defend myself when I have said how awful and illegal his actions are. People are telling me they do not condone what he said but no one, not a single person I have spoken with, is condemning his actions. I guess it’s ok if someone grab’s their mother/grandmother/sister/aunt/wife/girlfriend’s p*ssy, then. The rape culture in the U.S. is strong and until we address it, people like Trump will continue to make excuses for their deplorable actions. If we were talking about a person who is unable to control themselves so they grab a guy’s crotch, kiss him without invitation, or otherwise make unwanted sexual advances, this would be all over the news as the worst thing that has happened in America. But because it is about women, it is dismissed. By the way, I find it interesting that, if someone were to do these things on the street to random people, they would be arrested because it is sexual assault!
Yeah to me the only acceptable reaction to Trump’s words are outrage and outright condemnation. Anything short of that is at least condoning, and at worst endorsing, the sexual assault of women.
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