Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie’s temporary custody agreement ends today. I have no idea if they’re going to come to another temporary deal as the DFCS investigation seems to be ongoing, or if all hell is going to break loose. Who knows? Ahead of the temporary agreement lapsing, People Magazine and TMZ had some interesting stories about where things stand now that we’re a month past Angelina Jolie’s divorce filing. Apparently, Jolie and the kids really did have to speak to the FBI.
Angelina Jolie and her kids were interviewed Tuesday by 2 FBI agents … primarily to determine where exactly the incident between Brad Pitt and 15-year-old son Maddox went down. Law enforcement sources tell us … 2 FBI agents paid Angelina a visit at her Malibu home and spent more than 3 hours there. Well-placed sources tell us there is not an official investigation … the agency is in a “fact-finding” stage to determine if there’s evidence to warrant an investigation.
We’re told the agents wanted Angelina and the kids to walk through the incident step-by-step, but they spent a lot of time trying to pin down the location of the airplane at the time it happened. We’re told it matters if the plane was not in U.S. airspace when the argument went down. The FBI also asked numerous questions about what happened on the ground when the plane refueled in Minnesota. There’s some question as to whether Minnesota officials might have jurisdiction.
Sources tell us Angelina was cooperative but her endgame is for the whole thing to just go away. As we reported, it’s highly unlikely the FBI will press the case.
Two FBI agents going to her home, interviewing Jolie and the kids and they’re still not calling it an investigation. The semantics of this bug me.
As for what People has to say… they confirm Us Weekly’s cover story, which is that Maddox has no interest in seeing Brad. People says Brad has actually seen the youngest five kids twice already. Sources also say that Brad and Angelina still haven’t spoken to each other since all of the sh-t went down on the plane. A family source tells People: “Brad and Angie haven’t had any contact, and it’s all being worked out via their teams. It’s just a sad situation.” I wonder if that’s because Angelina (allegedly) changed her number or refuses to answer Brad’s calls and texts?
People Mag has another story about how everything is really strained and they (or their lawyers) can’t come to any kind of agreement about anything involving the kids. Part of the problem is that the DFCS investigation is ongoing and the lawyers really can’t do much without the investigation being completed. You can read more about the situation here.
Photos courtesy of WENN and Joe Alvarez/WENN.
After reading comments on people and daily mail I fell seriously sick… I dont know if there is hope for humanity…
I’m just going to say Brad Pitt should be ashamed of himself if he had behaved himself no third-party would have called the authorities and there will be no mess to clean up. Now he brought the Fbi and child services to Angie and his children’s life. And people are demonizing her. Angie stay strong with the kids and you’ll come out this stronger than ever as you always have.
She is not the kind of person who cares about what people say about her because in the end they all come to kiss her feet.
You’re right Ana. Though we don’t know if he got physical or not but he was drunk even that was admitted by his rep and things got terribly bad. Yet Angie is bearing the brunt of the whole mess and people are like awwwww poor Brad he married a sick woman and cold hearted bitch who is turning the kids against him. Sigh
She definitely cares what people say about her or there would not be an image overhaul.
@Andrea1 – His team is asserting that he drank after the confrontation. They say the incident wasn’t related to him being impaired. I am just letting you knot that is now their official story.
It’s disgusting! Brad Pitt is the bad guy here.
That is a bit simplistic and reductive. One bad incident doesn’t make him a cartoonishly evil bad guy. He is human and has faults and demons as does she. These things don’t occur in a vacuum and it doesn’t sound like he was Johnny Depp and running a campaign of terror and abuse. It also pushes buttons in people who feel like they were used as pawns or their children were used as pawns against them. Parental alienation and abuse claims as strategy in a contentious divorce pushes a lot of people’s buttons and they are projecting and filling the blanks with their own issues.
@Lindsay why so defensive? Brad Pitt IS the bad guy here. He should have not gotten drunk and fought with his kids and wife on a plane.
Not defensive. It is silly to think in real life there is a clear delineation that one person can be named the “bad guy”. We don’t know enough to judge. We also don’t know that he got drunk and argued. That is her side, his is he drank afterwards. She already had a house. This clearly was happening no matter what. He deserves the same presumption of innocence as everyone else. The hyperbolic speech is getting ridiculous. Its now been declared that what he did is worse than hijacking a plane.
@lindsey,
I agree, calling someone ‘a bad guy, ‘ is not helpful – we’re all flawed humans who make mistakes and can be felled by addictions, disease and dependecies. Hopefully Brad is getting counseling or treatment if he needs that, as is the family.
@sage
What “image overhaul?” I hate this kind of ridiculous talk about Angelina. It’s like her haters see her as this static being born into this world at 30 years old. She has no beginnings, no childhood and no adolescent and youth. She doesn’t change, evolve or mature. What she did at 20 she will do at 35 and 55. If she does something different and/or accomplishes anything of note it will be an ‘act’ because she is still who she was at 21.
Sure, Kristen Stewart, Robert Downey Jr, and hundreds of other assorted other ‘wild childs’ of Hollywood, can ‘grow up,’ and move on – but bizarrely, haters believe Angelina will always be the bisexual tattooed cutter who kissed her brother after winning Oscar and enjoyed f’ing her (gasp!)…husband.
Angelina has talked about her journey to now in detail. Seems pretty authentic to me. Was a self absorbed lost young person never looking outside of herself and her world changed when she saw impoverished people in diff countries – refugees, who were dealing with much greater hardships than she had.
Hard to argue that she had an ‘image overhaul’ when she’s still the first to tell anyone that she’s still a punk kid with tats. How did getting knocked up by Brad the same year his divorce was finalized from the patron saint of minivans everywhere… help with her ‘image overhaul?’
Think of Angelina as a human being, she grew up, matured and has accomplished many great things in her life- helped a lot of people all over the world.
Trying to paint her as someone who carefully presents a a false image is bull. She has a job she wants to keep so I doubt she’ll be swinging from chandeliers…or showing her inner thigh tat (wait she’s done that)- but regardless, that doesn’t mean she’s not authentic. It means she’s maturing. Unless you’re dead, we all do that.
@Lindsay who wrote: “We also don’t know that he got drunk and argued. That is her side, his is he drank afterwards.”
This is what TMZ reported on 9/23/16: “Although authorities were told Brad was drunk when the incident went down, we’re told Angelina says he was sober at the time but got drunk later in the flight. Sources connected with Brad tell TMZ he was drunk at the time of the incident”. So your version of her saying he was drunk when it happened is untrue.
This “official” storyline you’re now peddling, that has his team saying he was sober is new. His own sources said in the initial version they gave to People magazine that he was drunk. That changed when they saw how the “toe to toe” confrontation with a 15 year old boy didn’t play so well with the public. That version underwent several revisions to make him look better.
I do have a question for you. Where is this “official” version of which you speak?
Never once did I claim an “official version” and I am not “peddling” a story I was saying we don’t know. But mea culpa I forgot who dispute the Brad is drunk narrative so “We also don’t know that he got drunk and argued. That is his side, her’s is he drank afterwards.” There are a lot of facts in dispute that was my argument for not making him into some abusive, nefarious villain. At this point there have been so many accounts given.
When I looked it up someone on this site had made a comment about him being sober during the fight. I would bet if you looked hard enough in one of Brad source’s account her was sober. The sources and camps are collectively muddying the waters, throwing things out there to see what worked (especially in the beginning) and make the person look good while painting the other as bad.
Now thinking about it I can see why it would be more to her benefit to say he was sober and drank afterwords. So I get why this has become a piece of her narrative.
@Lindsay Yet you say Depp run “a campaign of terror and abuse” as if he wasn’t heavily under the influence.. Heard and her friends said he was always sweet and gentle when sober yet you want to believe he is a “cartoonishly evil bad guy” because of a few incidents even though she refused to press charges because she still loves and has forgiven him.
What do you expect from Daily Mail? Comment section of the story about Tyson Gay’s daughter’s murder was full of nasty comments about her and why she was out late. Those people are nasty.
My God they said these things? I weep for humanity 🙁 🙁 🙁 🙁
So totally agree with you Wanda! I try not to read the comments over there. Same with TMZ and RadarOnLine.
I stopped going to DM years ago because the readers there are racist and male chauvinists.
The one thing I can is that Brad has really disappointed me regarding this divorce.
He is letting the media rip Angelina apart for something he did. How can he sit back and let the mother of his children be attacked like that? His sons won’t respect him for not standing up for their mother and his daughters will think that it’s always the women’s fault. That their father didn’t defend their mother so how will he defend them in the future?
He obviously cares more about his image and career.
That should not surprise anyone as he did the same thing when his marriage to Jennifer Aniston broke up. Although he was the one who broke his own marriage up, he never came to Angie’s defense when the media was calling her a homewrecker and tearing her apart. He just sat back and let her take all the heat. I lost a lot of respect for him behind that.
Carman… That’s what I thought of when reading these comments. People choose sides. That’s what they do. And then they defend that person no matter how ridiculous.
Jen got left for another woman but she was labeled as some frigid old harpy that wouldn’t bare Pitt’s fruit. How does that make sense?
I would venture to guess that he is also scared he is in trouble with the law (FBI) and DCFS, ergo…sympathy ploys. If any of us were given even a hint of being investigated by the FBI we would be shaking in our shoes.
Lalu, what makes me so mad is that the woman always gets the blame and the man never, no matter how much he deserved it. Jen didn’t deserve to be pilloried as a frigid old harpy any more than Angie deserved to be labeled a homewrecking whore. And ten years later, people are still calling them that, while they sympathize with poor, sad Brad. Go figure.
On People Magazine? People got rid of Disqus… you can only comment on some articles with a Facebook account.
I totally agree @Andrea1
I said at the outset (over at JJ) that I was hoping Brad would put out a statement accepting responsibility, and maybe discussing a drinking habit that got away from him (IF this is behind the incident and subsequent break up).
I felt that would have taken a lot of the pressure off of his family, and especially Angelina who anyone aware of tabloid media and gossip can tell you she inevitably faces the brunt of irrational hate and criticism.
That didn’t happen. Much to my disappointment.
Now I realize Brad might be or may have been in bad shape and maybe the focus is getting himself together.
If so, the statement can come later…maybe when he completes a treatment program (speculative I know…)..either way, the statement has to come.
If anyone would tell me that they would end without even speaking to each other I wouldn’t believe.
I know…so many said they were the love story of the century! And now this…a very ugly ending.
I don’t understand not sitting down and civilly talking to your partner of a dozen years when you both are calm and sober, with a counselor if necessary, to iron out things for the 6
Kids you have shared. If he isn’t guilty of abuse, (and really, none of us knows, we’ve only gotten gossip from gossip sites) then she is guilty of using their children for her own odd purpose.
I think a pox on both their houses, and I still believe when you begin dishonestly, you end ugly.
Taking this with a huge grain of salt, but if true I would not blame her one bit for not talking to him. His behavior is the root cause of all of this drama and I would not say a damn thing to him until everything was over. She is allowed to be pissed long term because of this nonsense.
She has a team who can speak for her regarding the kids with his people until this get settled, Once everything is resolved with DCFS and the Freakin FBI, then Angelina and Brad should talk with a mitigator in the room until they can find some common ground again. Not before.
Taking this with a huge grain of salt, but if
true I would not blame her one bit for not
talking to him. His behavior is the root
cause of all of this drama and I would not
say a damn thing to him until everything was
over. She is allowed to be pissed long term
because of this nonsense.
This exactly!!!!!
Sooner or later she’s going to need to talk to the guy she decided to have 6 children with. They’re letting a bunch of strangers make decisions about the future of their kids and since both have plenty of money this will drag out and make a bunch of lawyers and fixers richer. He wants to talk, she doesn’t. That’s the impression I get. This story has soured me on both of them, but especially her.
Correct. No she hasnt to speak with him. She should but she doesnt have to. A lot of divorced couples have mediators. And this the guy she decided to have 5 kids with. Maddox was allready in her life years before him.
@Meandyou. You are right that she will eventually need to speak to him, but right now, no she does not.
I don’t think she is letting her team make any decisions for her. She is paying her team to be mouth pieces for her while the investigation is on going, which makes sense. When I have gotten into fights with my boyfriend I have used my friends and family to speak to him if necessary. I have acted as intermediary for friends and family as well. Angelina is just being more formal. At least she is communicating with him through someone else instead of a complete shut down.
I would never believe for a second that someone who left and filed the divorce papers so quickly could ever let someone else make decisions for her like that. Angelina is a lot of things, but passive is not one of them. I actually like her even more for putting her kids first and leaving Brad in the dust. Her job as a mother is to protect her children and herself, not to protect Brad and his feelings when he is acting a fool on a plane.
I would never believe for a second that someone who left and filed the divorce papers so quickly could ever let someone else make decisions for her like that. Angelina is a lot of things, but passive is not one of them. I actually like her even more for putting her kids first and leaving Brad in the dust. Her job as a mother is to protect her children and herself, not to protect Brad and his feelings when he is acting a fool on a plane.
Execellently stated
Los Angeles Family Superior Court REQUIRES mediation. You cannot see a judge at all until you participate in mediation. The parties are not required to be in the same room for mediation. They are asked if they wish to be, and both must agree otherwise the mediator goes back and forth between rooms in an attempt to make progress.
Like I thought and said from the beginning, Brad said something really f-up to Maddox in his drunken rage. We all know he got in his face, but people just focused on the physical, the verbal can be just as bad or worst.
I think that’s why Angelina reacted the way she did, and still is, since Angelina isn’t even talking to Brad.
This. Words are more difficult to forgive.
I’m trying not get caught up in any speculation but I have thought the same from the beginning. Something really awful was probably said that gave cause to both Angie and Maddox to not want anything to do with him – maybe just for a good long time or possibly permanent. When words are said that sting so bad, the hurt and betrayal are devastating, the ones on the receiving end or protecting those on the receiving end do tend to cut the abuser off at the knees and have NOTHING to do with them again.
This makes me sad. I hoped they might work things out because who wants to see a family busted up for good if they can work it out, but her filing so quickly and cutting him out of her life aside from the custody arrangement pretty much kills any possibility of reconciliation.
This is exactly what I was thinking. From the very few reliable pieces of information, he was wasted, squared up to/was rough with/was physical with Maddox, but more importantly said something completely unforgiveable and dark, and that’s mostly she immediately upped and left and won’t speak to him. It’s so sad
I agree with you Toot, maybe he has been letting little things float out of his mouth over the years, they let it go. But when he got drunk it got really bad. Verbal abuse is really bad. Angie us protecting her kids.
Sad if true…I say that cause didn’t Angelina & the Kids move from Malibu to a more private location(not in Malibu)lol…Angelina must resent having to answer all these questions I really do wonder what happened on that plane…Urgh Peace to the Family
Yes! That’s why I don’t understand the narrative that she planned this disaster! There’s no way she wants law enforcement and child services in her life dictating what she can and cannot do with their children!
I think the reason for this narrative that she planned this disaster is that AJ had rented a home in Malibu about 3 weeks prior to the actual incident on the plane. This does indicate some sort of planning & that trouble was brewing.
She did not rent a house three weeks prior to the incident.That report has been debunked.Just like the one that she met with her attention months before.Lara Wasser confirmed she hadn’t spoke to her in years until after the plane incident.
They’re actors and this is a domestic dispute. Do the FBI normally get involved in something like this? Do they have nothing better to do with their time? I find this totally ridiculous.
They’re involved because it possibly went down on a plane. That’s their jurisdiction, if on the ground it’s Minnesota’s.
Their being actors is immaterial and ‘domestic dispute’ is a term that can be used to trivialize family violence. The FBI is capable of understanding its obligations under the law.
Thank you! Domestic dispute has long been used to minimize & insinuated that the matter be kept private and out of the public. Once someone decides to put their hands on someone else without their consent then it’s not private anymore. If you don’t want cops, FBI or anyone else in your business then don’t be physically violent. Someone called and there is possible child abuse (guessing….) that occurred- I want cops to respond to that and if it’s not in their jurisdiction then I want the feds. He may be an actor but dv & possible child abuse should be taken seriously.
Fact- More people die from domestic violence then war.
The FBI was there because they HAVE to be. It wasn’t like they didn’t know this was a huge waste of time.
Tmz has a deferant story they said brad and mad has met on Wednesday for the first time and they said the news conferment by a close source to angelina
Unfortunately, that doesn’t mean that things can be fixed. After a month he only has a meeting with his 15-year-old Son and the therapist said it wasn’t earlier because the timing was not good is something that does not look like a happy ending. It will take months or even years and if Maddox chooses to live all time with Angelina I don’t know how Pitt is going to be able to fix their relationship. Either way I think Maddox should have at least a good relation with his father because in the end he will be the one who loses more.
Please leave the child out of it. None of has any business commenting on or judging his behavior or choices.
I will add that when children don’t feel safe, they have the right to decide on their own terms of safety.
@ Sars…I read that Maddox & Brad met yesterday for the first time since the incident. I hope it went well & I hope Brad stood up as the “adult in the room.” I also read that AJ is now looking at rental #3 in Malibu. There were pics of AJ looking around the property. I don’t understand this. Why keep moving the family from pillar to post?
I don’t understand all the moving but I also don’t think I am understanding the investigating etc either. None of this makes much sense. I am just thinking that over the next couple months a lot of info will get out and things will start to add up.
You hope that Brad stood up as the “adult in the room” after all the rumors are that he physically abused this boy and/or his mother (on accident while being in a rage or on purpose)??? I really hope that any adult who abuses a child checks themselves, puts their egos in their pockets and does what will help that child heal. You are hoping that he asserts his power….. it sounds like he did that a month ago and it didn’t go well. smdh.
I think you misunderstood me. Brad IS the adult & Maddox is the child. Brad should be the mature one & try to set the example & make things right. We don’t know the details of the incident, but I feel it is Brads’ responsibility to pave the way for forgiveness. I never said anything about asserting his power. If anything, he needs to assert his influence as the loving Father.
BonnieJean- Standing up as the adult in the room did make my mind jump to asserting power & will over the child because it implies that. I agree that Brad should be the mature one & start forgiveness by taking accountability, making changes and asking for it. But if anything happened like people think it could have, then Brad should start by walking in that room with his head hung low, apologizing and expect his son to be very angry & pissed- as he should be. Brad should show his son that real men apologize, are humble and can make changes when they are wrong, not be focused on asserting himself.
It doesn’t sound like Brad acted like the adult on the plane when he stood up to Maddox trying to protect his mother (if rumors are true) so him walking into the room like that & the idea that he should automatically get that kind of respect from his son right now is off base. Men shouldn’t get the message to “stand up” after they are abusive. It’s that kind of logic that likely got them into this predicament in the first place so that comment bristled me.
I understand, MC2. Interpretation is key. I have read some of your other posts & I can sense that DV is a very sensitive issue for you. I can see why you bristled.
Brad can show his son that real men don’t walk around their mansions all day long crying,whining to the press. They get themselves straightened out. Then if Maddox feels safe he will see he is making an effort.
I find it strange that the FBI is just now coming to talk to them. Surely they talked to them before Tuesday. Also, unless it involves the children, they don’t need to talk to each other. I don’t understand why people think that you have to be the best of friends when you divorce. At this point it may be better that they don’t and let all communication concerning the divorce go through th attorneys. Again I take this information with a grain of salt because it’s from sources although the timing of this story is interesting as we have heard very little about the divorve until today when the temporary agreement ends.
I believe the FBI can’t officially call it an “investigation” because they’re still trying to figure out if they have jurisdiction. If it happened in US airspace, the FBI has jurisdiction. If international, maybe INTERPOL? I thought Angie’s camp said it happened shortly after takeoff in France.
Good grief!
I`m very sorry for the whole family. The are no winners
in this situation. But really, Interpol?!
As everybody else I don´t know what happened, and
it´s really not our business, but I do feel this is being
blown completely out of proportion.
Hopefully they can work it out and find some
solution that makes all of them satisfied. My heart
aches mostly for the kids. 🙁
Yes. I don’t get what’s hard to understand about the FBI being involved. Whatever happened, at least some of it happened in air space and that’s the FBI’s responsibility. It may not be just about abuse either. Everyone assumes this was a drunken rage…possibly, but if any other drugs were involved and in air space, of course the FBI will get involved as they should. God knows if an average joe were in the same situation, the FBI would be investigating. The last thing I want to see is preferential treatment because they’re famous.
Such a shame this is being dragged out in the public forum for strangers like myself to weigh in with their opinions on a family situation we know nothing about. It must be so hard for all involved. Wish them the best & that they still come back as a loving comitted family whether parents part ways or not.
+1
Sensible comments. I always believe Jolie will do the right thing for her family.
This whole situation is just so sad and troubling. I’m sad that this is playing out so publicly – the kids can read about all of this one day. Every single sad detail. 🙁
All the kids were there, in the plane, when incident happened. They know what actually went down, it’s not like they need info from Internet to find out things. So, even if they read internet BS one day, the thing that they could be upset about is that the story was portrayed in a wrong way. But, that does not influence their truth.
Uhhhmmm, I’m wrong for this but I’m enjoying this whole thing. Of course I’m sorry that there are kids involved but I’m game for a good hollywood gossip. I don’t feel sorry but I’m kinda happy. Now don’t come for me… I can walk and chew him at the same time
You’re entitled to enjoy it but really??Had There been a “sexy little affair(yea I said,sorry)WITHOUT the kids sure it’s Hollywood gossip..but something like this playing out in the public..Hurting family…yea…I don’t see the “enjoyment”(if that’s a word)in all this
I think fascinating is probably the more appropriate word. I know I find this fascinating because it doesn’t jive with the brangelina narrative that we’ve been told all these years.
Eeeew. Some things are better left unsaid.
My feelings are similar – and I don’t feel any especial need to assign blame or project, I don’t think either of them is the fount of all evil in this world (lol). Divorce sucks, I am a child of divorce too – that’s personal hurt; The Brange is compelling and gossip gold.
Honest question… Some of you are following this closer than me…
I thought that she had already rented a house a couple weeks before this plane incident. Was that not true? Someone help me out here…
She rented a house in Malibu and then the press said she rented another one in Hidden Hills but TMZ said she was looking for another house in Malibu because the first one was not what she wanted. The last pictures of her with the children in Malibu are probably in the house she is staying and where the FBI was.
Yes, she rented the first house prior to the plane incident.
No she did not. It clearly states she was in a rush looking for a house the second week of september…how is that prior to the divorce announcement?
Why is there so much investigation, and why is the FBI involved? Would there be the same level of scrutiny if they were just regular people who got into a big family fight? What part of the story is being left out?
If it happened on a plane and/or the tarmac of an airport then it is the FBI’s jurisdiction. Local law enforcement doesn’t have the authority to investigate and prosecute. Since CPS and their other counterparts aren’t law enforcement it doesn’t matter where the abuse was alleged to have happened, just where they reside. I doubt it is an intensive investigation. They don’t have a set protocol for minor domestic disturbances aboard a private jet but it is high profile so they have to appear to do something.
In addition TMZ says that Maddox and Brad finally met up. I went through a this with one of my teens during my divorce. She didn’t want to see her father. They quarreled and she didn’t think she had to deal with it. It took a significant amount of time to heal this. Divorce creates nasty fall out initially (generalizing) but healing is possible when both parties make a decision to behave cordially. From there it’s possible to have what we have now. My ex and his girlfriend spend Christmases and Thanksgiving and birthdays with us. It’s so much nicer to forgive and move forward and create a new way of a loving family.
Very glad to hear that you and your ex could put differences aside like you did. My parents never did that. Made things so much worse. Divorce is awful for everyone involved, but yes. I think if you can forgive and move forward, a lot of that hurt can heal. My parents divorced when I was in 8th grade. I am 39 now and still get choked up talking about it. It was super traumatizing. Their actions made it so much worse.
….Hugs…
They had to meet per DCFS protocol. Every 30 days the family and children have to be observed.
is this going to become an International Incident? The whole thing is blown way out of proportion. Team Brad.
Justme… I keep waiting for some kind of huge revelation that will make it all seem reasonable because from what I have heard, it sounds so blown out of proportion. And then much of the original story turned out to be untrue.
But surely, something happened to warrant all of this right? It seems crazy.
And I really thought she had already rented a place prior to this happening but maybe that was a lie. If that is true and they were splitting anyway, I really hate that it is getting out on this one incident. I don’t think that child should have to feel like he was the reason behind it all.
The story about her renting a house prior to the divorce was started by the Daily Mail. They said she rented in the end of August when TMZ said she rented in the week of the separation.
All of these stories seem confusing to some, because they believe all of these “sources” in In Touch, Daily Mail, TMZ, Us, and the rest. Of course these stories contradict each other and the will continue to do so, because they don’t have any facts. PEOPLE has backtracked twice on their stories. The only true sources are Brad and Angelina and they haven’t said anything since the divorce announcement. They probably can’t do much until everything is settled with the investigation. The people taking sides whether Angelina or Brad fans need to grow up. They don’t know this family situation. I wish Brad, Angelina, and their kids the best.
I think this entire story and destruction of a family unit is horribly sad. I wish it was kept more private for the kids. That said- some of these comments & people’s ‘ideas’ about domestic violence are sad and infuriating and.jesus.women. I don’t expect people to know how to make dv go away but we can try to not make it worse by commenting like this after a man goes berserk and (allegedly) is violent with his wife & son in front of other kids.
Domestic violence is like cockroaches- if you see one episode then there are usually 400 and they are worse. I don’t know what happened on that place or what Brad usually does but what I do know is that I don’t know! A lot of people are making a lot of assumptions and acting like they know what happened & then judging her based on that. He might be a sick, violent pos- abusers hide it really well and can be anybody. My gut doesn’t think he is deep on the scale of violent abusers but I don’t know for sure and protecting the children and woman is the #1 thing before finding out. Anytime someone says “but he could never….” and they haven’t been in a live-in romantic relationship with that person, they should shut it. It keeps victims from speaking out freely because they are constantly doubted.
Domestic violence should be taken just as seriously as any other crime in our society. Just because they were family doesn’t mean that he shouldn’t be held just as accountable as if he walked up to a passenger on that plane that was a stranger and did what he did. If someone stole a plane, the FBI would be involved and I think that the possible physical abuse of a mother & child with other children watching, just as a cherry on the sundae, is a little more important.
Thank you. I’m disgusted by the assumptions that it wasn’t that bad or that because a poster on this thread lost it with their teen, it’s okay if he did – he’s still a good father. That is projecting and denial. I’m sorry this is happening to them but I’m glad he’s being investigated. Most DV incidents do not get investigated because usually there are no witnesses. If he didn’t do anything, good, it’ll be over. If he did, I hope he’s prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
Lastly, what’s up with the dissection of the FBI’s involvement and posts claiming they’re blowing it out of proportion b/c they’re famous. WTF!! No, the usual would be letting them off the hook because they are famous. They are doing what they’d have to do with any ‘regular’ person and probably treating them with kid gloves b/c they ARE famous – not the other way around. I feel like some of these people are living on a different planet.
Thanks. Yeah, it’s hard to be a good parent and a threatening, hostile parent at the same time. Does. Not. Compute.
People see the glamour of these two famous peop!e and forget they are human so they assume Angelina fleeing with all these kids in tow is drama and not an alarming act so to protect herself and her kids. People don’t understand how hard it is to get out of a toxic DV situation, mostly because they don’t want to know what a nightmare it is. I am not a Jolie fan but I am sympathetic here. I don’t care how rich or famous she is. Her actions sound authentically like that of a woman trying to get out of an scary place where she felt she had no power or control over her and her kids’ wellbeing. DV is terrifying like that and any DV victim needs distance and safety first before they can begin to really process their ordeal. If people were more willing to understand DV victims’ experiences, they might see this in a very different light than how the glamour of the tabloids are making it seem.
Wow, you would think the FBI would have more important things to investigate.
No one was hurt so obviouly this incident was minor in my opinion.
They still have to investigate and rule it out. No one wants 5 years later to have the FBI sued for not doing diligence.
What is more important for our police & FBI to do then look into possible abuse of a child???
How do you know no one was hurt? What do you classify as ‘hurt’ or ‘minor’?
I don’t have horse in this Brad & Angie race but I have a few in lowering domestic violence, abusers changing and making victims feel safe coming forward. I hope a lot of the commenters here re-read & rethink their automatic position of jumping to conclusions, blaming victims, minimizing or accepting abuse because it wasn’t that bad, minor or a ‘private matter’.
This comment section is making me so.very.sad.
I’m not from the US. But it boggles my mind just how many different departments have met the kids. I can understand them questioning Jolie and Pitt but asking the kids to share ‘step by step’ detail of the “incident” repeatedly seems a sure-way to traumatize them if they aren’t already. Even Maddox…he is just a teen…how can such dragged investigation help young kids? And these are famous people…is it even more delayed for common folks?
Such a sad situation thogh.
To my knowledge they have spoken to TWO agencies,FBI and DCFS.What different departments are you referring to?
I don’t know to make of this since the FBI also made a statement in early October that they were not going to prosecute because they never had a case going against pitt. And didn’t AJ say she would not talk to them in any case?
I’m kind of disgusted that their divorce, a sad but common occurrence after all, is being treated like some grand tragedy requiring the intervention of top level investigators. You want to see family melt downs, try being stuck in a dangerously crowded airport when all flights have been cancelled.
We realized the seriousness of the situation they are in?
This man should be ashamed of his behaviour on the plane. Under FBI & DCFS investigation. What nightmare for angelina and the kids.
And after all, in a few months he will be the same glamorous celebrity with his movie premieres, magazine cover. The perfect, charming man with one only mistake in his past choose a evil woman. who can blame angelina for to be mad or even for not talking to him for a while?
Sometimes when a person is drunk the naked truth comes out. But does it really? Patterns of actions and behaviour speak louder than words and if Brad did say something that crossed the line he better hope that his pattern of behaviour never hinted at his “true” feelings that ultimately lead to the “deal breaker”. I’m sure Angie can forgive words but not suspicions that turned out to be real.
I don’t understand how a couple could be together over 10 years and don’t sit and discuss their breakup. It’s very odd. They haven’t spoken in a month? Isn’t that a tad dramatic?
This was probably coming, they do argue. Angelina seems like type that when she’s done she is done.
I wonder whether the whole situation is less about the kids and more about the fact that AJ was just over Brad. Perhaps he was drunk and having a go at her; perhaps he even started to get physical/aggressive with her and Maddox just ‘got in the way’ defending her. Perhaps she just got sick of his shit and this was the final straw. Lots of ‘perhap’s’, I know, but I’m curious for my own reasons. My husband is a drinker. It pisses me off. We’ve come close a few times to splitting up over the bullshit stuff he comes out with when he’s drunk. If I could run off to a house in Malibu, there are times I probably would have done. Fortunately, we don’t have kids.
Make sense to me. I think she’s been over Brad for a while now, and Brad was angry, drunk and resentful. The whole thing escalated from there.
I agree drunks can be nasty,I have family members whose partners go at it at gatherings. I couldn’t take it.
MC2, I appreciate your comments about domestic violence. If you hear about one incident, it is just the tip of the iceberg. We are getting the bare minimum of the details. It’s just like I was told a long time ago, if an addict will admit to some substance abuse, there is a WHOLE lot more that they are not admitting to.
The thing that I am thinking of, and that I think a lot of people are missing, is that Brad was verbally abusing Angie. He was initially directing his drunken abuse at his wife, and imagine how significant it was that Maddox felt compelled to come between them and defend his mother. And we don’t know that it was just verbal. But we do know that the minute it became directed at her children, Angie acted. I don’t care what her past life was like, she is a hero to protect her children. And if Brad is letting other people, like Melissa Etheridge defend him and trash Angie, he is a pussy. I can’t believe he is so lucky to have a wife and lovely, lovely children, and he would quit being grateful and jeopardize loosing his family. I adore children, and I never got to have a family. I don’t know that he knows what a treasure he has.
Plus, I know what it is to put up with alcoholics/substance abusers. I’m fed up with the ones in my family. I had read recently, don’t know if it’s true, that Brad has been upset with his declining looks. Of course we don’t have all the details, but as far as I’m concerned, as Lainey said, Brad’s behavior must have been significant to make Angie file for divorce something like the next day. And NO ONE makes another drink, abuse substances, abuse others and act like an ass. So, Angie has not “made” Brad do anything. He is responsible for his own behavior.
Team Angie.
Plus, someone on the plane also thought that Brad’s behavior and the situation was serious enough to warrant calling in to child protective services. And they were on a private plane, so the employed on the plane possibly have been around the family and Brad before, and possibly seen much more.
My guess, and I am not taking either side- Is the wheels were in motion, for her at least. The plane incident-only THEY truly know what did/didn’t occur- was the final nail. I can’t imagine her decision came out of thin air. But, it does take two to tango so I am in no way blaming any one person. The priority is and should always be the kids. Only they know as a couple how to navigate through it. I feel for all involved. It just sucks.
She looks fabulous in the top photo. A huge difference from the way she appears now.
Angelina will blame Brad’s drug use when they split: A woman who works for an industry publication says his drug use will give Jolie an easy way to explain their split, when it inevitably happens: “They’ll be split within 18 months, probably sooner,” she told Halperin. “And here’s how it’s going to play out. They’re going to split amicably, work out some kind of arrangement with the kids, and everything will be very civilized. Then you’re going to see unidentified friends leak stories how Angelina couldn’t put up with Brad’s partying and drinking and his pot smoking. She’s worried about the kids, and she’s afraid it’s not the right environment for them. Maybe he’ll even take part of the blame and go along with that.
From an excerpt of a book on Celebitchy in 2009, look at that!
wow, forgot all about that. Interesting to read this stuff again in hindsight
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1248970/Brangelina–Now-Brand-gelina-says-Hollywoods-leading-insider.html
Wow! We are the Celebitchy investigators! I guess that guy was not full of it after all.
Haha, sure looks that way! This book came out years ago and he may be hack and gotten 90% of the specifics wrong , but their general tone around the actual life together sounds right – it was a rocky relationship and he loves his pot, always has. And maybe they were negotiating their pre-nup and not a separation at the time.
This guy is a wack job.He wrote a bio and didn’t even fact check.He got basic stuff wrong like the twins DOB.He makes Globe Magazine look credible.He is an idiot.
Is everything civilized and amicable?
FBI and DCFS are involved
Boy Bye
No, it’s not. I was mainly referring to Brad’s drug use. Calm down, do YOU know these people? Everything is gossip on here.
@nicole more bs for support the ANTI angelina or Anti women narrative, it’s exhausting.
Brad may have been in bad shape (aka addictions) for a long long time and Industry already knew it. Since 2009 elapsed 84 months not 18 and the split is anything but amicably.
Other poster wrote an assertive observation:
“NO ONE makes another drink, abuse substances, abuse others and act like an ass. So, Angie has not “made” Brad do anything. He is responsible for his own behavior.”
I did not say one word that this is her fault. My father beat the shit out of me after he shot up with every drug he could steal from the hospital. I posted that because of his drug issues.
I just agree that the tone and there were problems for a long time.
An addicts favorite phrase is look what you made me do.