Maybe it’s because I’m flush with patriotism, having just voted at the butt crack of dawn, but I’m really not in the mood to deal with this Jolie-Pitt drama. To recap, on Friday, Brad Pitt responded to Angelina’s divorce petition and filed paperwork seeking joint custody of their children. Angelina’s response was a leak to TMZ on Monday, where she and her team were basically like “he won’t get joint custody until he gets his sh-t together.” I took the back-and-forth as a sign that the behind-the-scenes negotiations were not going well and both sides were trying to publicly push each other around. So what do you make of this?
In a new statement, a rep for Angelina Jolie says she and Brad Pitt have reached a legal agreement about the custody of their six children. But other sources close to the situation maintain the two have not reached any new agreement, nor have they permanently settled their differences and Pitt still plans to push for joint custody.
A rep for the actress tells PEOPLE: “We can confirm that childcare professionals have encouraged a legal agreement accepted and signed by both sides over a week ago. In accordance with this agreement, the six children will stay in their mother’s custody, and the children will continue therapeutic visits with their father. This has been determined by childcare professionals to be in the children’s best interest. We are not in a position to discuss the details. We hope now that it is clear that the events which led to the dissolution filing involved minor children and their wellbeing, there will be understanding of the sensitivity of the family situation. We believe that all sides are committed to healing the family and ask for your consideration during this difficult time.”
Last month, the couple agreed to a temporary plan involving counseling and visitation as recommended by the Los Angeles County Department of Children and Family Services – and some sources close to the situation contend that the agreement referenced by Jolie’s rep is simply an extension of that temporary deal beyond the original Oct. 21 expiration.
Another source involved says that the deal referenced is not meant as a permanent custody agreement – it is in fact an independent step Pitt and Jolie agreed to while they attempt to work on a more permanent settlement. Last Friday – several days after Jolie’s rep says this new agreement was reached – Pitt filed his response to Jolie’s petition, asking to share joint physical and legal custody of Maddox Jolie-Pitt, 15, Pax Jolie-Pitt, 12, Zahara Jolie-Pitt, 11, Shiloh Jolie-Pitt, 10, and twins Knox Jolie-Pitt and Vivienne Jolie-Pitt, 8. Sources say Pitt plans to continue to push for joint physical custody.
Yeah, once again, as I said yesterday – there seems to be a conscious conflation of the issue of visitation versus custody. Jolie’s side sort of did it with their TMZ story on Monday too. I believe that Brad probably did agree to a temporary custodial situation which involves monitored visitation for him, but that’s not a permanent custody agreement. The temporary agreement is just what they’ve got while they negotiate a complete divorce and custody agreement. Plus, it’s basically all Brad can get while he is under investigation by the DCFS. No one knows how long the investigation will go on, and until it’s completed, there won’t be any permanent solutions. Just my opinion.
Update: TMZ is now reporting that the “custody agreement” is just what I said – it’s a temporary thing while the DCFS investigation is ongoing. And like I said, there’s not going to be any kind of permanent solution to anything until the investigation is concluded. After which, there will be a “custody battle” or whatever.
Photos courtesy of WENN.
Conclusion – something bad happened in that Plane and Pitt was the cause of it. So Angelina the Bitch wasn’t lying or trying to take the children away from him. So those who said that have now the opportunity to give her an apology.
nope. There is no conclusion. There is an ongoing investigation. Brad Pitt’s side is saying that they are confident enough of a positive resolution that they are filing for joint custody now.
Once again, the adults are not winners here.
I don’t think either parent is great and I think the way Angelina filed has more to do with Brad’s husband skills than his parenting skills.
We already know she doesn’t believe in discipline and he does. They should never have had children together.
There is no discipline without respect and love.
Wouldn’t the respect and love be between the parents that chose to have babies together? It is not a good fit. I agree. There are absolutely no winners here.
exactly. I always thought that it was crazy that they started getting pregnant and adopting a hot second before his divorce was even finalized. it’s not enough time to know your partner. BUT…what’s even more telling are her endless, saccharine-filled interviews about what a wonderful parent/father he is/was. If he, in fact, IS a terrible, abusive, explosive father…how does it make her look in retrospect? I understand that women stay in abusive relationships all the time, for many reasons, but what made her push all that glowing praise of him down our throats? I really think they haven’t been happy in years and she’s trying to punish him for that. If he’s a terrible dad, I hope the authorities dig it up. but I don’t understand her. at all.
It’s not just the plane. There must be a lot more going on, otherwise custody would be shared. I don’t know what to think, but I don’t think raising children with nannies and no outside friends is functional either. I also don’t think young children should be collecting knives, i.e. weapons, as a hobby from a very young age – yet she makes out Brad is unhinged.
I think Brad is agreeing to whatever she proposes, to keep the media at bay and minimise the attention.
I still hope they will sort out whatever is going on and get back together.
Supposedly they haven’t seen each other in almost 2 months now, and Pitt just filed for divorced after having had tons of time to cool down.
No way are these two getting back together.
I’d say the chances of that happening are dismal to nil. I think she’s done with him.
I’m a romantic.. ME TOO.. and it would be so fun to see heads spinning because of it..
Star light Star bright
First Star I see tonight
I wish I may, I wish I might
Have the wish I wish tonight.
**heck it worked when I was a kid.. so …
The writing is on the wall. These two are done with each other. Maybe one day they’ll be friendly exes, but reconciliation? Doubt it.
God I hope they don’t reconcile. I mean I hope they get along enough for the kids sake but no way they accept each other after all that’s been said and done. They have no respect left for each other.
I suspect a LOT of folks feel that way, but I really think they’re dunzo. so sad for the kids.
man, if you had told me a few months ago that these two were breaking up, I’d have NEVER believed it. it’s still kind of surreal to me. I was never a huge fan like some folks are, but I thought they were a lovely family and I really admired her humanitarian work. it’s almost like I’ll “forget” they split and then I see a story or headline and am like “oh, yeah…” hope those kids are coping OK…
I know – me too!
me too :L i watched by the sea (which everyone hated except me apparently lol) and i was SO SAD BECAUSE of whats happening now and i just want this family to get back together *sobs*
It’s only temporary. They will divorce next year, release a statement and say they have joint custody etc.
For anyone, like me, who’s confused about what the statement means, there’s quite a good piece here from a lawyer.
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/brad-pitt-angelina-jolie-custody-battle-legal-expert-weighs-in-w449283
Feels like this is setting it up so Pitt looks like he’s creating problems when actually they’re still just working out custody.
The situation described is so far removed from a permanent custody arrangement that the conflation has to have been made very much on purpose.
It’s getting really tiring now. They both need to shut up until all investigations are over and all the legalities are sorted.
This is what I was thinking too.
I’m thinking that Angelina sanctioned someone to give an official comment to People because unknown sources, which I guess means the same as it does when we read that in US and Star magazines, were making up speculative narratives of their own for hits and sales.
Sounds like he has a drinking problem. He’ll get sober and then he will have joint custody.
I think he is in rehab actually ( It would be the reason why it seems he disappears and drops Allied’s promotion) and Jolie has some dirties about him.
I think Angelina would have leaked any rehab stay a long time ago.
This reminds me of all those times Kelly Rutherford released statements that she had obtained/regained solo custody meanwhile the case was still going through the courts.
Same. I don’t get what her side is playing at. It was common knowledge they were continuing with the DCFS recommendations until the investigation is complete. Why would she have her rep issue this statement–which clearly makes it look like Brad has signed a long-term/permanent custody agreement–at this time? It comes off kind of underhanded, IMO.
Not to mention the specific timing that an agreement was reached last week which contradicts his filing on friday (?) Asking for joint custody.
Because TMZ accused her of keeping the kids from him while there is already an agreement between both side
If there wasn’t a serious problem DCFS wouldn’t be investigating until now. And they are not investigating. They made recommendations and those ones are that she gets temporary custody and Pitt makes therapeutic visitations with the kids. Pitt could have denied those recommendations and fight them on court. Why did he accept it?
@ANA
You are misinformed.
1. There is an ongoing DCFS investigation. As others have said, the length of the investigation could be because DCFS is either stockpiling a shit ton of evidence against Brad OR there isn’t a whole lot of evidence to support abuse claims, so they’re doing their due diligence.
2. Brad Pitt accepted TEMPORARY recommendations until the investigation could be completed and custody decided in court. He has since made a court filing for joint custody going forward. He’s not just ‘accepting’ the recommendation.
Goats on the Roof
People want to see it as they would like. The fact is that after almost 60 days he still need therapeutic visitations with the kids. If there was nothing I am sure he didn’t need that. DCFS will close the case with recommendations to the court. If they think, he still needs those kind of visitations is that because they think the children are not ready to be with him. Isn’t that clear.
@ANA
“The fact is that after almost 60 days he still need therapeutic visitations with the kids. If there was nothing I am sure he didn’t need that.”
Agreeing to a temporary custody and cooperating with the DCFS investigation makes Brad look more agreeable and paints him in a more favorable light with the people investigating as well as the courts (when they get the case), I’m sure. Whether Brad “needs” monitored visitation or not has yet to be decided because the investigation into his behavior isn’t complete.
As a CPS worker here in CA, I’m left curious about this back and forth over custody. . An ER investigation normally takes mere days, culminating in a recommendation to the court for either a) detention, from one or both parents OR b) no detention and a recommendation for services. If there is no need to detain, social services closes the case and families with money work this out privately; families without money get needed services. If there is abuse the child(ren) are detained (removed from a parent’s custody) and if the other parent is found to be protective that parent gets temporary custody. The offending parent must work on their issues, a timeline is given and the case is revisited after 6 months. At that point the court makes appropriate decisions. I think a) there was cause for detention from Brad. b) he has been directed to work on his issues and is likely being randomly tested for drugs if that is the issue. c) she has temp physical custody and he has supervised visits. Over time he will get to visit without it being supervised. D) if the case is over in 6 months he will have full parental rights including physical custody again. This court doesn’t determine legal or physical custody, the judge presiding over the divorce will do that. The findings of social services will be taken into consideration, but one incident likely will not affect his parental rights permanently.
I agree, I don’t think it’s serving anyone well to release these kinds of statements. I feel like they all need to just stay quiet, let the investigation and court do their thing, and try to ignore the tabloid chatter.
LUCY2- exactly. All involved should zip it. Kids should always come first.
Just stop, both of you with the continously stories given to the press. Think of your children and not yourselves. Interesting though, now that all the whoopla about the elections is over, the number of stories concerning them are beginning again. Waiting for the Kim K stories to start up again.
I agree. Sick of both of them. Do everything to keep the kids out of the spotlight instead of running to media outlets.
Please no. It’s been heavenly not seeing any K Klan stories. May it continue this way.
Oh, LAK – I agree but their timing of stories is impeccable and this would be the perfect time for some kind of drama. Started yesterday with “Kanye spent all his money on furniture . . .”
Yep, I’m sure the K Klan has an entire book about to roll out
Swak: i saw that Kanye story because Sandy Gallin was an amazing talent manager and TV producer who appeared to have retired from Hollywood completely.
Very shocked to find he is an interior designer these days.
That said, given the examples of his work, i wouldn’t hire him. So mundane and boring.
Kanye’s asthetic is minimalist industrial distopian chic going by his fashions, his homes. Talk about opposites.
Kanye being a star suck up, probably hired Sandy Gallin based on his Hollywood connections and not his interior design asthetic.
It was always going to end in tears.
@ LAK
I thought the same thing!
Kaiser is right that this story is misleading and inaccurate. Nothing has changed but one camp or the other placed this rehabbed story or some idiot dropped the ball at AP. I’m going out on a limb by predicting that Pitt filed his response to the petition for divorce because he was given a directive and timeline by DCFS. Whether it be classes, testing counseling or all three, he knows when he will complete and there is an end in sight for his part of the DCFS case. From their his attorney will file a Request for Order re custody and visitation and a hearing date will be set. Once the mediation requirement is met by the parties, an order will be granted by the court for the disposition of custody/visitation. I suspect it will be a primary and shared situation where they are with one parent or the other as a primary residence and the other has them 3 days a week. Very common. With alternating holidays and split summer vacations if the kids are in school.
Perhaps I’m in denial or whatever…but she’s still “about family” in her statement…..& I still believe a reconciliation is possible depending abt brad addresses his issues & gets the families trust back??…Prayers to the Fam
For the life of me, I still don’t understand why people think Angelina is a lying b!tch and Brad is a helpless victim. Angelina has only asked for temporary sole custody. Haters are working overtime claiming she’s trying to destroy Brad and keep him away from the kids. I know people are going to say people manipulate the system but if there’s nothing to investigate why does Brad only have supervised visitation? There were problems in their marriage and something significant happened on the plane. Why is that so hard to believe?
I don’t get it either!…& those are the same who say Angelina is lying about this “arrangement”..she’s a lot of things but stupid she is not!..so ofcourse She & Pitt agreed to this As advises My The Childcare professionals Who investigated This who debacle…Again Love em both but in this situation Angie Did What any good Mom does & she acted accordingly & ofcourse she knew people would point fingers at her but she stuck to her guns!..much respect Angie
Because she’s the vixen temptress who stole the golden boy away from “America’s sweetheart.”
Even people magazine said Brad was in counseling before this incident. He obviously has issues.
Angelina released this because tmz kept implying they will have a war. I don’t think jolie leaked anything to tmz yesterday. Tmz found that brad filed his responce & they are stirring for hits. Seems they took something from lainey source 2mths back & rewrote the narrative. Jolie clearing up what is actually happing behind the scenes & not what the media / press are writing.
Agree 100%
I see this differently. If Angelina were only clearing up the issues, her statement (via her rep) should have made clear that the agreement is temporary and pending an investigation. However, it does nothing of the sort. It is very carefully worded to make it seem like custody has been resolved with Brad accepting only “therapeutic visitation” going forward because it has “been determined by childcare professionals to be in the children’s best interest.” Her statement makes it seem that Brad Pitt has already been judged to be a danger to his kids by DCFS and has acceded custody.
It’s a VERY poorly devised statement at best, and at worst, it’s sneaky and underhanded.
I agree. I think it is a response to Pitt filing for shared custody on friday and a sign negotiations aren’t going well behind the scenes.
+1
I agree.
I’d say it’s intentionally manipulative, at worst. I’m disappointed in her. This kind of behavior is transparent to most people, and it’s just going to make Brad more sympathetic.
Agree. This statement came from HER rep. The way it’s worded does not benefit her children, it’s meant to make her look good and Brad look bad. Period.
It’s also clearly timed to coincide with the upcoming press for Pitt’s new movie. Makes it more difficult for him to gracefully avoid hard questions about the split, if he addresses it he’ll be ‘blackballing’ her and if he avoids he’ll be ‘ducking’.
I agree. Brad seemed to file for shared custody at the optimum time to minimize media coverage. It was to be expected that he would do this at some point and may well have become a legal necessity at this time, so it wasn’t a dramatic move to make – if he leaves it too long the separation from the kids alone may have an impact on custody decisions. Angelina’s statement was unnecessary and interestingly timed. Despite her years of experience with handling her own and Brad’s press, and her dream team of lawyers and advisers, I do think she is being very heavy handed.
She pushing back the lies TMZ published yesterday where their so call sources said he will net get joint custody
This a legal agreement between them there is not custody war as TMZ put it yesterday
P.s. Pity does have to set up house as a single man now and hire nannies and buy toys and furniture if there’s was moved. Part of the DCFS case will be to ensure that the home is in order.
Tmz just reported that no agreement was made yet
News outlets (Time, Reuters, etc) have already said Jolie gets the sole custody of all their children.
Yes, Time, Reuters, People, and more are all reporting that Angelina will keep sole custody. However, they are basing it on this statement from her rep which clearly contradicts Brad Pitt’s court filing. Her people saying she’s gonna have custody doesn’t necessarily make it true, you know.
There is absolutely no contradiction. He accepts the DCFS recommendations for temporary custody and at the same time he says he still wants joint custody when the temporary agreement is over.
For the time being until thing change the rep didn’t say sole custody they said legal agreements between parents
@FA
Her rep’s statement says under the ‘legal agreement’ the children will “stay in their mother’s custody” and will continue “therapeutic visitation” with Brad. The statement goes on to say this was “determined by childcare professionals to be in the children’s best interests.”
The statement is very misleading and does not mention that this is temporary or pending the outcome of a DCFS investigation. So, while it doesn’t say “sole custody” in so many words, the statement isn’t totally aboveboard.
Like other people have said he accepts this until the dept closes its case. He just filed for joint yesterday…no way a custody case would be wrapped in a day after filing
Well then, Jolies team strategy has worked, ie they want people to believe that Pitt is an unfit father and that Jolie has sole custody. A bit like Trump claiming he has won the election!
I think people are hoping for a reconciliation more so because they bought into the careful PR fairytale about these two. I never did, I was never enamored with them.
Despite what the AP says that does not sound at all like a permanent custody agreement to me.
Either way It vindicates Angelina and shows Brad is an abuser. She’s not trying to destroy him, she’s trying to protect her children. He should be ashamed of himself for abusing his kids and then claiming that Angelina was trying to smear his lame ass. Be a man and take responsibilty for his mistakes.
yeah and Jolie needs to be a woman and stop -making statements- about a private divorce and child custody case. There was absolutely NO reason for this statement to be made by her yesterday except to fan flames and add confusion. And ultimately harm her kids.
We don’t need to know about their temporary custody agreements out here. There was nothing to clear up in the public realm. This was totally unnecessary.
Are there really people out there that think this is all for the good of the children? That statement about how now it should be obvious that the dissolution filing was about the minor children and their well being made me sick.
Kids often blame themselves in divorce matters. Why are they openly being named as the reason for this one?
These two are getting divorced and if is on them, not those kids.
Because they are the reason. If you read DCFS guidelines, they said that when the investigation is in proces about one parent, children can be placed with another parent if “they are legally separated or divorced”.
They are being named as the reason in the divorce. Think about that.
Okay, maybe it is just me. I think that is disgusting for grown people to name their children as a reason for a divorce.
A marriage is between two grown adults and if they made mistakes or bad choices or outgrew each other etc, that has nothing to do with their children.
Maybe there are people that think this means someone is a really great parent… But I think it is a shifting of responsibility and not owning your mistakes by saying this is all bring done for your kids.
If he is a bad man and a bad dad etc… Own that and call it what it is and say you don’t want him for a partner because he is trash but don’t say it is for your kids because they shouldn’t carry that burden.
Lalu, I agree with you about the kids feeling that. I find her statement sad and manipulative. That line was completely unnecessary. She should stick with “for the health of her family” or just STFU until DCFS closes investigation.
I don’t know why that flies all over me. It isn’t my business and those aren’t my kids. But something about how this is being put out there as to “protect the children” seems really off. Maybe that is what is going on… But for the family’s privacy… You don’t announce it.
She never said it was a permanent because nothing can be permanent until the dcfs case is closed but what was implied by his custody filing it she wants want sole and he wants joint so they will fight. She added an agreement was made LAST WEEK and they are following that in meantime.
If it was a lie his rep will be up in front denying this, what he is doing is going to people with sources and even on that he cannot say outright it is a lie
Absolutely, she never said it was permanent. Like, people can’t even have patience to actually read the statement.
Also, the original temporary agreement was only valid until Oct. 20th. I’m sure at that time they decided to continue the way it was as it was easiest and was working. Like I said before, whoever is putting this out there, either side, needs to zip it.
For years the tabloids printed stories about Brad and Angelina, yet the couple rarely if ever commented to the media. They kept their private life on lockdown( they even got married in secret and no one knew for months!) . I just have a feeling this will all be settled quickly and quietly. I just do not see either party wishing to put the children through a long public messy custody battle. Both Brad and Angelina are pretty media savvy and know how easily any mud they sling could come back and bite them hard.
People, TMZ and other sites are just using the old faithful ” anonymous sources” angle to print made up stories.
My not very hot take:
When my ex and I separated 2 years ago, we split custody 70/30. There were emotional abuse issues as well as his lack of involvement with the kids. The idea was always to work towards 50/50. We are at 60/40 now.
There was a lot of disagreement before we settled in this staged approach because he couldn’t or wouldn’t acknowledge his issues.
My experience is probably biasing my view but it seems to me that whatever happened on that plane was the final straw. I believe that she wants full now but I also believe that that’s not necessarily her ultimate goal.
Ultimate goal: he gets his sh!t together, and they share custody. Interim goal: full custody until the afore-mentioned gathering of ah!t.
Those goals are not contradictory.
This is absolutely what she was saying from the beginning – her ultimate goal was never full custody!
They don’t want to hear you.
from the 1st few days of the divorce news I remember reading that the sole custody would be temporary.
She requested full physical custody in her divorce filing. She can say anything, but if that filing is approved she will get what is in the document. That is why Brad filed for joint custody. A different conclusion will be reached when the investigation is done, but the rest of what is being said about the final agreement is meaningless.
I think it’s the tabloids who REALLY really want this “custody war” to happen. Even when Jolie and Pitt already seemed to reach an agreement, however temporarily, tmz, people and US are still eagerly anticipating on this “war” happening. Making up stories and passing it off as leaks from inside sources just to continue the “war” narrative. So unless the statements are released by Jolie or Pitt or their reps – not “sources”, it’s all just gossip and speculation. And I don’t think it’s fair to blame the couple for this public war when it’s obviously the tabloids who’s trying to make it happen.
The tabloids and Pitt’s fans (evil Jolie and poor litle boy Brad)
russianbluecat
thats what I hoped also, theyve always been very protective of their privacy, nothing to see here etc.
But this isnt following their blueprint, so something bad happened, and prob has been happening. We dont know the whole story either, nobody does in a marriage. She couldve been covering up for him for years.
I just wish that she handled her filing in a less scandalous way, the children she is protecting can and will read about it.
AJ said she wanted permanent sole custody with visitation from Brad. It seems her stance has softened somewhat as she’s now stating she wants 50/50 parenting.
Makes me wonder if Brad, in his words at one time, was still sitting on his couch partaking in alcohol and weed?
Also, I can’t see how the globe trotting will continue, even after the divorce and custody issues are worked out.
They had us all fooled.
Um, who was fooled?
Brad never stopped smoking weed and drinking. He’s outed himself and by people that it never stopped.
The globe trotting will continue. She’s been doing the UN thing for over 15 years now and I’m sure she will continue to expose her kids to it and Brad is very much into continuing his acting career. If he’s filming world war z in England next year I’m sure the kids will visit him on set.
The majority of actors kids travel with them from set to set, country to country. Cate and Sandra’s kids are with them in New York while they film oceans 8, Garner and Affleck moved their family to London while he filmed last year. None these actors kids live a normal stable life.
I remember an interview he gave about wanting to stop drinking because in his own words he isn’t a good dad when he’s drunk or hungover. He said zahara almost choked to death in his care while he was drunk.
What? He said that? It’s not here in the archives. Do you have a link?
I just want this to be over. The kids have to be confused and scared.
Freddy spaghetti , yes he did. Google zahara Jolie Pitt ice cube …
@yepisaiit,I did Google it and got a link to a forum discussing it in 2007 with no links or sources. Site was also pretty cruel about Angelina. So, direct link to the story ? Or is the site in question just work of anti Brad and Angie fans?
Freddy spaghetti , I apologize
Brad Pitt thinks drinking beer made him a neglectful dad. The ‘Ocean’s Thirteen’ star decided to massively cut down his alcohol intake after seeing his adopted daughter Zahara, two, choke on an ice cube.
He said: “It’s not easy to be a good father when you’ve had a few drinks.”
“About a year ago I’d had a couple of beers and my daughter Zahara had this piece of ice that had been dropped on the floor, and she was putting it in her mouth and began to choke on it, and that was it.”
Pitt added: “You have to be absolutely on top of every situation. The other s**t doesn’t work anymore. When they wake up in the middle of the night you have to be there. And you can’t deal with children when you have a hangover – that’s just a misery!”
Brad and his long-term partner Angelina Jolie have three adopted children, six-year-old Maddox, three-year-old Pax, and two year-old Zahara, as well as a 16-month-old biological daughter, Shiloh.
The 43-year-old actor insists his kids find it difficult to cope with having famous parents.
He explained to Total Film magazine: “It’s odd for my children, man. They have this idea that there’s this sea of people with cameras. This is their idea of the world they live in.”
This was not looked at in the greatest light so I think his team tried to bury it but I think it was an interview with V MAGAZINE. V mag or GQ… It’s hard to actually find the source , but I’ve been a fan for some time and the quote was from a legit interview.
As stunning a revalation as this was, I think they both need to drop it and move on. This has been an ongoing vicious cycle since the story broke. They are both still in hiding, and they are both still focused on the divorce and custody. Feels like we all need a break from this, I am sure the kids need Mom AND Dad..to just chill and figure out what works instead of dictating to the other.
Quit focusing on who did what, and focus on what works now. Two big ego’s trying to run the show..and they are running it in the ground.
No all children need a good mom and dad. If dad is abusing them they don’t need him. By everything we’ve read it seems pretty obvious that Brad is an abuser and CPS does not trust him to be alone with his kids. The thing is that Angelina can’t control CPS… So they have come to the conclusion because of interviews with the children and nannies.
Sometimes it’s best to not have one parent if they can’t be decent.
I think TMZ is mad and has a very shady “source” … I think Angelina’s side is telling the truth. There is no reason to go on record if that’s not the case. Brad side has not released a statement and just uses “sources” because he doesn’t have a leg to stand on.
He’s trying to salvage any good publicity for his premiere. I think it’s pretty clear that he did abuse his children. Cps does not trust him to be alone with his kids. I think it’s also sad that the media and fans coddle him and make it easy for him not to take full responsibility for his actions.
+.10000000000……Absolutely!
He has never taken full responsibility for his actions. Every time another relationship fails it’s always the fault of the woman he’s been involved with or married to.
I agree with you Carmen, he has never took responsibility in the past,but he’s dealing with Angelina now and he knows if he dont get his sh-t together and be the sober father he can be,she will fight him forever. Angelina have taken the blame for his last divorce for 12 years and he and his ex-wife knew the truth.
I think she needs to get rid of those two women trouble makers from England. She is listening to them thinking they are all knowing. And make your own statemnts to the media, not some third person.
Agree. The 2 British women are stirring the pot. Angie wants solo custody so she can go where she wants to go whenever she wants to go. Joint custody will not allow this to happen.
It will be decided by the court that joint custody is beneficial to the kids.
All of this should be a private matter. Going to TMZ is the lowest of low.
Also: Full custody = child support. Joint custody = no child support. Not that either of them is poor. Just sayin.
Joint custody doesn’t necessarily mean no child support. My daughter had joint custody of her son with his father and he still had to pay child support. Child support is based on the income of each parent and there is usually a formula used to determine the amount if any. Of course they could agree thay neither pays child support.
The last full statement brad pitt gave was about a film he produced. I think he should put all work commmitments aside & focus solely on his family right now. I’m sure they would be understanding considering child services are fully involved in his life & needs to start healing with his family all together. Not promoting & selling a damn film. When you are all alone, what is your life? A film career? or your family by your side?
If he’s only getting scheduled supervised visitation, what is he supposed to do all day? Just sit around moping? For months on end, every day?
Promoting his film, that’s part of his job. His family issues and the divorce *should* be private, imo.
But, why did they marry at all? Just 2 years ago and now 12 years were so bad? He wasn’t obviously a bad parent in 12 years. Why cant she help him? If she does not love him anymore, why marry him 2 years ago? I really don’t understand this. Its a stupid move of angelina!very stupid and it makes her look bad more then him because she just dont want to help him.
OH lord too many questions. i think anyone who followed them can say they married for their children . Originally Angelina said that she didn’t need marriage but it would be hard to say no to her kids . Later Brad came out and said the kids are asking about marriage then like within months or weeks Angelina’s was interviewed and said the kids just wanted cake and they didn’t know what marriage is. Anyway she ended up marrying him in an ugly dress designed by their kids and the vows were written by their kids, too.Sad
I think for anyone who followed them know Brad changed about a year or so ago… he’s no longer the devoted dad he was and if it’s easy for the fans to see than what has Angelina’s and her kids dealt with?
So basically she married for the kids and now she’s divorcing for the kids.
@Yepisaidit any fan with open eyes saw that he changed A LOT about a year and half… only looking paparazzi pics, so figurite out the situation behind doors.
their divorce wasn’t a shock…
They got married because they chose too. They’d each been married and divorced before… Wasn’t really a big deal.
And they are getting married because that is their choice too. The kids aren’t the adults in this.
These were Angie and Brad’s choices… Not the kids.
Why is she responsible for fixing his problems? That’s exactly what’s the matter with this guy. Every time he messes up it’s someone else’s responsibility. He needs to put on his big boy pants and man up. She probably got sick and tired of having to carry him all the time.
Truth is we are all speculating. We don’t know what is really going on. Neither does the media or press. Angelina knows what is happening in Her life not everyone else who has an opinion. All the time child services are calling the shots they are in limbo & just doing what they are asked, day to day. It’s taking time & that is where speculation goes into overdrive. Sick of ‘sources’ whether real or fake for gossip benefit. Just have to wait and see.
Angelina was ALWAYS going to divorce him FIRST, and she’ll probably go gay again, maybe to the point of marriage. I wonder is there something going on with the two women she has to employ as her “friends”? Angelina was not going to have Brad leave her,EVER. It’s no matter to her that there are many photos of Brad looking like he’s trying to juggle her grumpy anoerexia/serious toxic drug issues/slack parenting/overboard breeding/. It’s no matter that he didn’t approve of the $300,000 a year these two women cost or the decisions that have interferred with their life.
She wants to be the victor the winner but,how that actually plays out in real life,i dont see how.
Obviously the marriage was what SHE wanted,not the kids, and it wasn’t what she hoped for,she didn’t get what Jennifer got, she’s furious over that I’m sure…..