I was actually happy when Saturday Night Live cast Alec Baldwin as Donald Trump at the beginning of the current season. While I have issues with Baldwin as a person, the truth is that I love him as an actor, and he’s one of America’s great impressionists. His Trump was dead-on, a total buffoon. There were a few problems though. One, Baldwin’s buffoonish impression was actually funny, and therefore somewhat likeable, which was bad news. And the biggest problem is that Baldwin only agreed to do it because everyone expected Trump to shuffle off after losing the election. Now, USA Today reports, it’s unlikely that Baldwin will stick around and continue playing Trump. So what’s the answer? Perhaps going with one of their full-time cast members, or bringing back Darrell Hammond, or something else. Who knows?
Meanwhile, Baldwin – a longtime liberal/progressive Democrat – tweeted a lot yesterday in the wake of Trump’s victory. There are so many tweets that I’m not going to embed them all. Here’s what he wrote (in order):
I was taught in college that Americans choose their President like they choose laundry soap, w a knee-jerk brand loyalty devoid of reason
One thing that is changed forever in this country is the meaning of the word “Christian” as it applies to politics.
After this, I think an important thing 4 all of us 2 do is support better media. So turn off CNN and MSNBC. Or, at least, don’t rely on them
1 thing that is changed forever in this country is the meaning of the word “Christian” as it applies to politics.
Theme for 2020: MAKE THE WHITE HOUSE GREAT AGAIN
The billionaire Republican businessman is close to winning the race and world markets are crashing. He’s all yours, America. He’s all yours
I think the thing to focus on now is our families. To love those that were put in our lives to care for. Also our respective health, work and faith. The American political system is broken. Walk away from it for a while. As Coriolanus says, “There is a world elsewhere.”
Italy survived Berlusconi. The again, Berlusconi was Adlai Stevenson compared to this.
Hate is a great motivator
I think his best point is about “the meaning of the word ‘Christian’ as it applies to politics.” Baldwin is a hardcore Catholic, and he’s a huge supporter of Catholic causes and charities. And like many Northern Catholics, he’s more liberal/progressive. That’s Christianity to him – helping the poor, looking out for your neighbors, peace, love, and charity. The way the Evangelicals lined up behind a thrice-married, admitted sexual assailant and hate-monger is fundamentally disturbing. And from here on out, the right-wing Evangelicals don’t get to get high-and-mighty about anything else ever again, not after they supported Donald Trump.
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I’m sorry he won’t be doing Trump anymore. That was one of the few bright spots to this whole debacle.
What does Northern Catholics mean? Which part of America exactly?
I never understood how someone who believes in Christian principles could vote republican just based on their fiscal policies. Even socialism is closer to those teachings. At least Catholic ones.
But electing Donald just shows that their hatred towards women and the LGBTQ community trumps everything else. They have no principles.
Christians vote pro life.
Here abortion has been legal since the 50s so that was never a major issue. Although the pro-life movement has become bigger ( there is a group, thankfully small, who have been prayig in front of gynecology clinics), but the right wing governemt dismisses them. Fiscally, I think even our most right wing party would be more left than the democrats.
So that’s what it boils down to? They are willing to disregard everything else if the candidate is pro life?
We don’t really have a religious right in the UK, either, Locke. Except in Northern Ireland, where it is a specifically Protestant phenomenon. I also find it quite difficult to process the different ways it works.
“Christians vote pro life.”
And yet there’s literally nothing in the Bible about abortion, except to say that if a woman is adulterous, she should be taken to a priest who will put a “curse” on her womb to end the pregnancy. Hm.
It’s been eye-opening to learn about how the Republican Party aligned itself with the church to save itself from disctruction after Lyndon B. Johnson was elected.
We kinda do have parties that are connected to the Catholic Church, but not in a way it is in the US. But then again, we’re still having arguments about WW2, so we’re not the sanest country either.
We have to stop calling it pro-life and start calling it anti-choice.
God gave us (believers) free will. It’s time churches stop forcing their own agendas.
Err, Shambles, please tell me WHERE this is in the Bible? My first degree is in Bible History and Hermeneutics, and this is the first time I’ve heard this.
@Luzciegadora, I call it pro-birth.
Because after that, they want nothing to do with it.
@ladysussex butting in but I believe shambles was referring to Numbers 5:11-31
Thank you Angel L, I stand corrected.
The choice should never be political! It should be between a woman and her doctor and NO ONE else, not even the father (It’s not his body.)
Yes. Don’t see how he can be described as a “hardcore Catholic” if he’s pro-choice on abortion.
Northern Catholics are in the New England and Mid-Atlantic states. To simplify, conservative (morals, life-style) and pro-life (anti-abortion) beliefs are what motivate Catholics (not all) to vote Republican.
Sorry I don’t understand the current rhetoric. How has DT ever demonstrated hatred of the LGBT community? And I know he made disgusting sexist comments, but I see people tweeting he will take away birth control from women, etc. When/where has he ever said anything like that?
@ladysussex –
Throughout his campaign, DT has vowed to defund Planned Parenthood. He also is against same sex marriage and transgender rights.
http://www.inquisitr.com/3698135/mike-pence-confirms-trump-presidency-will-abolish-birth-control-mandate-and-transgender-bathroom-protection/
Also, his VP Pence put into place some shockingly anti-female laws when he was governor of Indiana.
http://www.teenvogue.com/story/mike-pence-record-reproductive-rights-lgbtq-refugees
+1 It’s bad enough that Trump won. Let’s not make it worse with false accusations about what he said he would or wouldn’t do.
@Lady Sussex I don’t know…maybe because he chose a running mate who believes in conversion therapy for gays and believes they should all be given shock therapy!! Don’t be so dense! There are literally lists after lists detailing the nastiness these two men plan to bring to this country yet you act like we’re all making up stuff. You sure you didn’t vote for Trump?
Here’s an article for you:http://www.newnownext.com/what-a-trump-presidency-means-for-the-lgbt-community/11/2016. Maybe try googling the candidates before the next election?
Locke I imagine Kaiser means the northeast US. Massachusetts, New York.
Northeast US. Catholics in Massachusetts, etc. used to be pretty pro-union and Democrat. Abortion as an election issue was something that was really pushed by the Southern Evangelicals and they allied themselves with the Republicans. As Christian and Republican became more closely linked, I think more Catholics shifted allegiances, especially as working class in general has shifted to Republican, even in the Northeast.
I would say the Northeast.
I too dislike him as a person but enjoy him a lot as an actor. He was brilliant on 30 Rock, and SNL.
He’s right about the “Christian” aspect, but I can’t agree with “walk away from it”. I think the whole country needs a breather from politics but we can’t walk away and become apathetic. Now is the time to get involved and start planning ahead for the next opportunity.
That comment raised my hackles for a while too, but the whole sentence is “Walk away from it for a while.” Since he’s also talking about 2020, I think he probably also means a breather.
Yes. Read in context he’s meaning walking away temporarily to right yourself, look at the broader world and come back and fight.
The only way I’ve gotten through the last day is talking to my nearest and dearest who all feel the same way I do.
This sounds sad because I am not single- I love my partner of 18 years with all my heart and soul and we have been holding each other close- but my dog has really made me so very happy the past few days. She is just so cute and funny and furry. Her little world is nothing but walks and pets and cuddles and food and play. It just has really made me happy to make sure the world stays the same for her while it seems as though it is crumbling for so many us.
I hear you – my cat snuggled up last night, and it was like I could finally take a deep breath.
Most of the people in my life voted the same as I did, and we’re all sad. What’s also helped has talking with people online, like this site and a few others, where I can get a broader, sometimes global perspective, but mostly people feel the same. We’re commiserating, and probably will be for a long time.
Same with me. But remember there are many people whose ‘nearest and dearest’ do not have the same views and opinions. And I know for a fact this has been devastating for them
Believe me, I know how fortunate I am that those closest to me are comforting during a time like this.
If you haven’t seen and have the stomach for it, watch “our brand is crisis”, it’s streaming on HBO. SPOILER: It’s basically an exact foreshadowing of our campaign and election: how to win based on fear, lies and one liners. I’m still shocked both ended the same. Now I’m thinking the movie was based on real events, I’m surprised people aren’t talking about this more…
I watched that movie for the first time 2 days before the election. You’re right, fear and lies can win you an election when the electorate is willfully ignorant. As long as we view experience and knowledge as a bad thing, we will keep getting different versions of trump.
He can afford to walk away, but the rest of us can’t. I do appreciate him as an actor though and agree with most of what he says.
Trump-supporting Evangelicals easily looked the other way because of the Supreme Court.
It’s always “Do as I say, not as I do.”
“He can afford to walk away, but the rest of us can’t.”
A f*cking men to that. Last night, I went to be with my fellow yogis and our Swami (yogi monk, spiritual teacher), to cry and heal and be among like-minded folks. We talked about how now, we literally have no choice but to do the work. There’s no more time for d*cking around. We can’t afford not to do the work.
I’m bisexual, but have not publicly come out. I’m thinking of doing so in a show of solidarity with my LGBTQ friends who will be affected by this, given who our Vice President elect is.
Welcome to the family, Shambles!
He should have a conversation with his brother Stephen .
I didn’t vote for either candidate and went 3rd party. However, what this election showed Washington and Hollywood is that most places between those two geographical points are tired of politics as usual – Trump is outside campaign finance, he’s outside the GOP and he’s outside the political realm. He’s an outsider and the public responded to that. Politics in this country have changed by the election of Trump. Now I’m going to sit back, see if he can rise to the office and decide if I need to move to the woods to escape.
Good luck with that. I don’t think he could find his way out of a paper bag. I hope you can find your way through the woods.
He’s not really an outsider though. He is not a political insider but make no mistake he is establishment. And this argument about electing outsiders holds no water, when you consider how many incumbents were re-elected and also that Trump will surround himself with the usually Republican insiders and they will probably fill his cabinet.
who is going to sing the national anthem for him… hahahaha no more celebrities in the white house that is so refreshing Obama and Hilary romanced them to the core and now its over…. i bet trump isn’t bothered by the lack of celebrities as he had always started they’re not right campaigning for politicians.
Yeah, if there is one person not bothred by celebrity it’s Trump. Sure.
I never understood the need for celebrities and why us politics is that showbizzy, but Trump is a famewhore extraordinaire, and if any celebritoes were actually willig to support him he’d call right away.
true
Chachi’s available!
… and Ted Nugent
if that’s true why did he lie about tom Brady endorsing him?
Because he is a pathological liar. That doesn’t seem to bother half the country though.
Yes, Trump and the evangelicals together is the ultimate unholy alliance. Pun intended.
Alec was great as Trump but even though I loved Kate’s impression of Hillary I walkways wondered if it was too harsh. Anyway, too late now *sob*
Today I fully embraced my anger at everything and tomorrow I’m going to embrace hope and resolve. So, I have to have a small rant. Sorry folks!
-So angry that we live in a place that is fighting for democracy and then US does this terrible thing that jeopardises our geopolitical stability and makes a mockery of democracy.
-So angry at the idiots who didn’t even vote (while we fight and burn for that very right)
-So angry at the media CNN esp. which placated, entertained and made money from Trump while endlessly criticised Hillary with false equivalency. Now you have a dictator and your media will suffer, jerks.
-So angry at Wikileaks, GlennGreenwald, BernieBros, Jill Steiners, protest votersetc. who constantly criticised Hillary, utilised foreign illegal hacking and then self righteously claimed it was for justice. They couldn’t wait til after the election?! Now, they get the worst demagogue US has ever seen for their stupidity.
-So angry at the racist, sexist male & female voters who wanted the racist sexist sociopathic facist.
-So angry that the rest of the world will have to deal with this affront to humanity.
So so angry.
I’m right there with you, KT.
Cosign.
So, so angry too, especially when I heard him sounding “rational” and saying nice things about Obama and Hillary after he belittled and lied about them and continued to claim Obama wasn’t born in the US and that “lock her up” stuff. I wish someone would lock him up. I hope karma gets him sooner rather than later. I cringe at his arrogance and am disgusted by every single person who voted for him. I guess I am coming here to vent some of my anger.
Hollywood isnt influential. nobody cares about rich people and their opions. beyonce isnt as powerful as the media likes to make her too be.
americans are tired of the BS. trump!!!!! trump!!!!!
Yeah, luckaly they can connect with a down to earth “my father gave me a small loan of a million dollars” orange man of the people.
Yes, he’s so like us! Not!
Your response and the lack of intelligence displayed by the attitude that a barely literate, hypocritical, obsessive lying President (who proudly acts like a mentally unsound fascist) is a great idea is another reason why I am so so angry.
Sorry, but how is he “barely literate”? And do you imagine that Hillary or Bill or Obama or any other politician for that matter doesn’t lie obsessively? I did not vote for Trump, but I find all of this rhetoric absurd. Someone actually tweeted yesterday that Trump wanted to electrocute gays, and that blacks were in danger of having their voting rights take away because of Trump! All these things are completely absurd.
Ladysussex, Did you hear trump speak during the debates? Did you hear how he and his VP contradicted each other? Have you hear him speak about the last book he was reading? he is sarah palin 2.0.
btw the racist rhetoric never starts how you think. the 13th documentary explains it quite well.
Senior advisor to Nixon: “we knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be black, but by getting the public to associate blacks with heroin, And then criminalizing it heavily, we could disrupt those communities,” Ehrlichman said. “We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did.”
Ehrlichman’s comment is the first time the war on drugs has been plainly characterized as a political assault designed to help republicans win, and keep, the White House.
Erlichmamn focused also on criminalized marijuana because Nixon hated hippies.
So, the recipe is – you use coded language and speak of lawlessness. And boom, everyone – black and white, repubs and dems – votes for ‘order’ that ends up falling disproportionately on minority communities like lgbt, persons of color, immigrants, etc
Black people are and have been in danger of disenfranchisement and it’s because of nixon and his racist advisors. Clinton took things further.
But it sounds much better to say war on drugs than war on black people and hippies.
I will say for Clinton at least she spoke with blm. Trump courts white supremacists.
ladysussex, +1
Lady Sussex – Do your homework about voter suppression. Why do you think there were huge voter lines in minority areas of reddish states? Do you know why the Voter’s Rights Act was passed? Do you know what has happened since the Roberts Supreme Court let it lapse.
It’s hard work to be an educated citizen. Give it a try!
He’s right about the media – I’m so disappointed in both CNN and MSNBC. I turned off my tv at around 9:30 election night and didn’t watch any news and I’m not going to for a while, I have to walk away from it. HRC losing the election was a big loss – yesterday was a hard day for me.
I didnt vote trump and will not pout or cry. This is our system. It is not broken bc they person i wanted to win didnt.
God bless you. You have made my day.
I take some comfort in the fact that the person we wanted DID WIN the popular vote. It’s the Electoral College that is insane. Four times it has not reflected the popular vote, and yet that person has won the election. #notmypresident
Alec disliking the winner does not equate to our political system being broken. He’s like a child who lost a game and says it’s a dumb game and I’m not playing any more.
I dislike Trump too but I’m not giving up. I said I wanted bridges, not walls. That needs to happen with our fellow Americans. Please be civil in disagreements with Trump supporters i.e. don’t call them stupid or uneducated. Deriding Trump supporters is hypocritical. It builds walls. Shaming Trump supporters may have helped him win.
Trump is openly racist, misogynistic, homophobic, and xenophobic. Any person who voted for him knew this, and voted for him anyway. They ought to be ashamed.
@Lady Sussex
I’ll amend the barely literate to say profoundly unintelligent. His ‘Deal’ ghostwriter says the only books he found in Trump’s table were on himself. His answer about Mosul in the debate was illogical, meandering and confused. He continually contradicted himself in his rally speeches – from one moment to the next! He took little regard to what his CNN surrogates were saying and would be quoted in saying the exact opposite position to what they had clarified. His outline for the first 100 days in office was one of the worst I’ve seen, also he contradicted himself on a number of those points in his rally speeches. His list of falsehoods, outright lies while campaigning was one of the worst seen in a major modern western politicician (with more research one could probably add other continents too). Oh, I read some of the Podesta emails and further summary reports on content and if that’s the level of calculation it’s so freakin’ mild it’s insane. The US doesn’t even have any of his tax statements, Trump had a least one fraudulent foundation, his endless litigiousness is nauseating and he is a outright sexist, let alone alleged (and bragging) assault perpetrator. The list of his issues is too long to imagine.
This is no Reagan, McCain, Romney…this is what other dictatorial countries have had through their history. A self serving and historically revengeful leader – newly minted with the ultimate in military, political and nuclear power.
But I will say that this is today’s anger at the terrible situation we all face. Tomorrow I’ll be back to positivity and not drag any commentators which is not my style! It’s just…*sigh* democracy is a privilege. Think, work, study and utilise it well and we then can build bridges better, safer for all.
“This is no Reagan, McCain, Romney…this is what other dictatorial countries have had through their history. A self serving and historically revengeful leader – newly minted with the ultimate in military, political and nuclear power.”
THANK YOU @KT!
All these Trump supporters whining that people are not being respectful of their support for this man is RIDICULOUS. This man is not a run of the mill Republican. He is an ignorant totalitarian conman that peddled in racist, sexist, xenophobic rhetoric to rile up the masses.
It’s shocking and disgusting how he’s been normalized by the media. The consequences of this election are ENORMOUS.
The GOP have both the House & Senate, most State legislatures and Trump will likely appoint up to 3 Supreme Court Judges.
So yes voting rights are in danger, women’s reproductive health is in danger,, etc.
And don’t kid yourself, racists have been emboldened by this man being elected.
That is what every single one of you that voted for him, stayed home or voted 3rd party have to live with.
So if you feel like a social pariah right now? Sorry I can’t muster up much sympathy for you.
Keaton, I applaud you.
Alec my mom is with you all the WAY
We start by doing away with the electoral college. Where else does the person with the most actual votes lose to the runner up? It’s illogical. It happened to Gore and now again to Hillary.
Walk away from it? Yeah, well, that’s just like, your opinion man.
I ask this with all sincerity: what is with all the ‘we need to heal’ ‘time to heal’ sentiment? I honestly ask this puzzled. Heal from what? Not getting our way? I voted for Clinton. We lost in a hard fought, tooth and nail democratic election. Sucks. Sucks a lot. Someone wins, someone loses. That is the very nature of the democratic election. Our candidate lost. I protested/had my voice heard BY VOTING. After that I accepted the outcome. What do I need to heal from? Why do I need a hug? Because my candidate lost? I am not five years old. I accept that our country voted for the opposing party. Let’s all come together and deal with it. Protesting and burning the flag? Burning. The. Flag. Because your candidate lost? In an election during which you had the opportunity and privilege to vote? If you were to poll each and every person protesting out in the streets today if they voted? I’m not sure you would a 100% return on that. Now THAT is a concept I need to heal from.
I think the “healing” people are talking about is how we need to deal with our anger and sadness right now. It’s not just about our person losing but how this country is going backwards. We elected a black man as president twice, had a woman on the ticket and have now gone the complete opposite direction & elected a man who has offended almost every group you can name and picked a VP who has a long history of being against women’s and gay rights. There are a lot of people who are scared and who feel like half of the country hates them for their skin color, their religion, their gender, their sexual preference and they need time to accept that and time to get together and fight this so we don’t end up here again in four years or ever again.
As a Christian and a Democrat, I just have to speak up in defense of Christians. True Christians (I know that sounds judgy) read the New Testament and are motivated by how Jesus sought out, not the wealthy, the privleged, or the “best”, but “the least of these” most in need of empathy, compassion, our good deeds, and God’s love. He also explicity said that, second to our love for God, loving others is the most important thing we will ever do. To compare the respective party platforms is to know that Jesus is a Democrat. #don’t lumpmeinwithevangelicals
That was the thing that got me about this, too. The evangelical Christians were lining up to support a man who could not be more divorced from and opposed to Christ’s example and teachings.
Trump offered them the same deal the Devil offered Jesus in the bible — worldly power if only he bent the knee. Jesus said no; the evangelicals said yes. Meanwhile, the Mormon Republicans actually showed some backbone and stood up for their morals.
It was an eye-opener as to how little moral authority some moral authority figures have left. As Gandhi put it, “I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ.”
Trump has a couple of dozen legal battles on the books at the moment for and against him and they won’t necessarily end once he is sworn into office on January 20, as presidents aren’t protected from facing legal proceedings that regard actions which took place before they entered office.
The Constitution states : “The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.”
If he is convicted of fraud – as is possible with the Trump University case – that would be an avenue for impeachment and remove him from office. Unlikely given the make up of the senate and congress ….but still.
Unfortunately that would be out of the frying pan into the fire as Pence would then become president.
I for one will not walk away. I will be writing my Congressmen to explain how this election affected me and my children. I will lay out my expectations of them, how I want them to represent me on topics attacked by the Trump campaign, and I plan to follow up regularly. And, for anyone thinking of doing the same, the office staff are trained to pay more attention to handwritten snail-mail than emails. Just sayin’.