This is just a reminder that Kristin Cavallari is still around and that People Magazine is still interviewing her at events. Kristin is 29, she has three kids with football player Jay Cutler and she’s made somewhat of a career out of being a mom with questionable advice for other moms, peppered with product placements. Sometimes she sounds sensible though, like in these quotes where she wonders aloud if she needs Botox before the age of 30. At least she’s consistent in being against injectables for herself and not just her vulnerable kids, right? However if you do criticize her about not vaccinating her kids, she’ll say it’s ok because she’s confident in her choices as a mom. Yep.
On people attacking her ‘parenting style’ (they don’t mention shots specifically)
“Itās hard. At the end of the day, I have to remind myself, especially when it comes to my kids, Iām so confident in what Iām doing as a parent, what Jay and I are doing, and my kids are happy and healthy, and thatās ultimately what matters.“So someoneās going to judge me who doesnāt know me? It is what it is. I canāt get hung up on that. I know what Iām doing is okay. Itās working for us, and thatās all that matters.”
On if she’ll get Botox
“All my friends are starting to get Botox and Iām kind of like, Ahhh. I want to do everything I can to not get it.”“Iām so boring when it comes to this stuff ā I have my go-to.I always just use the same stuff. The ones that I love are Armani foundation, and Armani lashes to kill.”
[From two interviews on People]
It may sound insane that a 29 year-old has friends who are starting on Botox, but this seems to be more common among the monied set on the west coast. I had a friend who lived in San Francisco who got Botox before her wedding at the age of 30. That’s right around when they start. Dermatologists tout it as “preventative” but it’s also more lucrative for them so I would be skeptical. As for Cavallari’s skepticism of science, it’s ok because she’s confident about it and her “kids are happy and healthy.” Emphasis on the last part.
Are they all ignorant anti-vaxxers too Kristin?
Getting botox when young is so counterproductive. I’ve seen a lot of 25-30 year olds doing botox and fillers and all of them look 15 years older than they are. (Also see: Kylie Jenner.)
If you look at twin Botox studies, it’s actually the opposite. If one twin gets Botox and the other doesn’t, when the twin with Botox stops getting it, there are less wrinkles. Wrinkles occur from a lot of movement over time. Botox freezes muscle and decreases the amount of wrinkling. The most important is using a real dermatologist or plastic surgeon. They do minimal injections to keep the face looking natural and still maintaining some movement. Housewives that have “Botox” parties and hire nurses to inject them always appear overdone because they want to look at frozen as possible and a nurse that is getting paid lots of $$$ will easily comply. No dermatologist or plastic surgeon would over fill or over inject. I work in fashion industry and have seen men and women that are over done and it is obvious and weird looking in person. I also have model friends that see dermatologists that do it to a minimum and look amazing, they look 5-10 years younger. Any actual doctor that does lip injections for instance will tell you that naturally the bottom lip is bigger than upper and a dead giveaway at a bad lip job is when the top and bottom lip are the same size, like Kylie Jenners lips. It’s not natural. A doctor will never overplump the top lip and only minimally plump the lips overall to keep facial symmetry as natural as possible.
Gia ā yes to all of this! I will look up the twin studies, that’s interesting.
“a nurse that is getting paid lots of $$$ will easily comply. No dermatologist or plastic surgeon would over fill or over inject.”
Blanket statement, much? Yes, because all nurses have no conscience and will just naturally go where the money is. And, you know, absolutely NO doctors overfill or over inject. Come on. That statement is unfounded, obviously untrue, and rude to nurses. Off topic, but let’s not forget we have a panic killer addiction epidemic in this country because doctors DO overfill/overprescribe and too many of them are easily bought and will write prescriptions for people who don’t need them if the money is right. I don’t appreciate the notion that nurses lack conscience but no doctors ever do anything wrong, which is what your statement seems to imply.
On another note, I absolutely agree with you about botox being preventative. I have a friend who is almost 40 and her skin is amazing. I was surprised to find out she’s been getting botox for the last 10 years and she looks incredible.
Thanks for those insights Gia! I’m nearing 30 and honestly, considering the social landscape at the moment… I’m considering it…
“No dermatologist or plastic surgeon would over fill or over inject.ā
So all plastic surgery or lips or filler or botox done by “dermatologists or plastic surgeons” looks great, not overdone. Hah.
Yes I’m an identical twin and my twin sister researched and I am FORBIDDEN by her to get any Botox/Filler until we can do it together. We are only 33 but you can see where the wrinkles will start.
Those people who are overdone demanded it from whoever did their work (dr or nurse) – a lot of people prefer a frozen blank face to a slightly wrinkled one. Also the eyebrows get really low when you use too much Botox in your forehead and that looks horrible!
no offense Gia, but I too am skeptical that a doctor or plastic surgeon is always better than a nurse and never overfills.
I have seen plenty of bad fillers from doctors too.
Also, Looks like the twin studies had a very small sample size, so I would also be suspicious of their results. It’s easy to get a good result with a small sample size, but that doesn’t mean the results would be easily replicated.
Doesn’t mean Botox might not be effective for you, but be careful, as always!
SO true! I’ve been getting it since 29. I am 32 now. I do it about 2x per year just between my eyes (the elevens ) and even when it wears off, not a single line! Preventative botox š
Doctors will over inject. And push more Botox because it is a sellable product. I have seen it happen multiple times. I love a touch of Botox but I have had to be stern with several medical professionals about going with a lesser amount. It’s amazing for reducing wrinkles yes- but you have to be wary of all medical professionals for pushing too much on you.
I think it depends on the person treated. There is a certain look to a botox face, and since you associate it with older persons, if given to a young person it can be aging. But when you compare people at the same age with and without their skin is smoother.
My Derma also recommended as preventative between my brows, but I’m not a needle person so it seems a huge step for something that doesn’t bother me. Plus the article about how the botulinum does not stay completely at the injection site came out just before I went so that didn’t help.
“Botox look”: too much used. I work for a cosmetic doctor and half of the girls who work here (aged 25 -38) have Botox and half don’t. Line us up and no one could pick out those with injectibles.
I agree, they all look old and unexpressive, no matter how conservatively they have it injected.
Whenever I meet someone who botoxes, I can tell before they admit to it; I just stare at their unmoving musles and find myself completely detatched from what they’re saying, it is as if they are not even there, talking to me. Their inability to emote really freaks me out and I have to end the conversation quickly and move away.
I can’t honestly see the amazing preventative and beautifying results that people keep associating to botox, to me the negative effects are so evident! Yuck.
I started botox at 30 because I have a stressful job that causes me to furrow my brow a lot. I have been getting the treatment for ten years now. I am convinced that it decreases my stress levels because I can’t furrow. I consider the treatment to be very different from collagen injectables.
Lol at the repetitive “confident”. Well I doubt if your kids get measles or mumps you’ll feel the same level of confidence…
This is an ignorant and misguided woman and I don’t understand why she is still considered relevant since it’s been a long time since she’s done anything worth getting any kind of publicity about. It’s only a matter of time before polio makes a re-appearance in the U.S. so I hope this tool is happy with her decision to put her children’s lives in danger.
Amen. Every time I see her mug I think the same thing. These reality stars just don’t want to go away, like that grindingly annoying Gosselin woman. Funny that it is usually People that adds time to their 15 minutes. The only thing she will be known for is her disgraceful neglect of immunization of her children and putting other kids whose parents aren’t idiots at risk. Lovely picture of her by the way, spent two hours to make her hair look a wreck. Bitter Me Friday.
Ah, that’s interesting. I didn’t get vaccinated for measles and mumps as a kid because doctors said it’s better to get it as a kid than as an adult (especially if you get pregnant). So during elementary school I – and most other kids – actually had these diseases. I’m Austrian and that was more than 20 years ago. I don’t have kids myself so not sure what the status quo is in my country today…
I have no patience for anti-vaxxers. It is so dangerous and wreakless.
Same. I have nothing but contempt for anti-vaxxers.
If she’d like people to stop judging her parenting, she could shut up about it. But then she’d have absolutely nothing to talk about because she’s some washed-up, former reality “star” whose only current claim to fame is being married to a football player on his way out.
“I want to do everything I can to not get it.”
She’s ridiculous. Who’s willing to bet that after she hits thirty the Botox starts? She will be getting Botox while her kids are getting measles. Thanks mom….you were against protecting us from infectious diseases but anything to keep those wrinkles away.
I’ve commented about this before ā maybe because it’s nice to be able to talk about it and I don’t talk about it IRL ā but I started getting Botox at age 27 when I noticed fine lines on only one side of my forehead, and I’m happy with it. I did it for my own self-confidence, and I’m pretty sure the lines were so fine nobody else would even notice them yet. But they bothered me, so I got a minimal amount of Botox. I’ve gotten it touched up every four or five months, and my own mother hasn’t noticed the difference. It can be preventive if you start early ā these lines appeared rather quickly but once I started, they haven’t gotten any worse. In fact, they’re less apparent. There’s just a lot of misinformation about Botox. It’s not a line filler, it doesn’t erase wrinkles, it just stiffens your muscles so no more can form. If a celebrity has cat face, they’ve gotten a hell of a lot more than Botox. I’m sure some doctors insist it can do more than it actually can, or who over-inject because they’re just looking to profit. That’s why I sought one out who actually suggested giving me as little as possible. Do it for you, don’t do it, to each their own! But I will side-eye crazy Kristin… she says and believes SUCH crazy sh-t but draws the line at Botox? Okay lady.
@elle
Yes! Ive had botox before and i loved it. Will do again
I was 45 years old and was really unhappy with the angry vertical line between my eyebrows from always furrowing my brow. I got a little botox there finally, and I loved it so much. It didn’t make the already-deep line go away but smoothed it and also prevented me from furrowing. So then I thought, “hey, I should get a little just on my forehead to prevent the lines from forming on my forehead.” And I love it. For me it’s preventative as I head into my older years. It doesn’t take much, and nobody notices. But I feel like it will forestall the coming wrinkles.
How is Botox used as a preventative measure? Don’t you have to keep using it to see the same results?
I wish more women knew that you can soften wrinkles with products, not just with fillers.
What products?
Paula’s Choice is pretty amazing but no surface anything will be a miracle and won’t erase wrinkles.
AHA’s are great for surface problems such as wrinkles, dark spots, and skin texture. I worked my way up from a lower dosage of vitamin C and it, along with some other Korean skin care products I use, work great.
The ones that have worked the best for me are the:
Pure Vitamin C21.5 Advanced Serum
Mizon 8% AHA serum
Cosrx 2% BHA serum
I wouldn’t say they are miracle workers, but they have improved my skin tremendously. The only downside is my skin is a little drier than it used to be. These are just some alternatives for those who don’t feel comfortable with getting injections.
Thank you, will try!
I’m 29 and get Botox. Just a little in my forehead. I have a very expressive face and still can make a ton of facial/eyebrow movements, I just don’t have those lines between my eyebrows anymore and less forehead wrinkles. No shame. I’m all about a bit of maintenance here and there.
I’m 31 and have been seriously considering going. I take excellent care of my skin, but have pretty deep number ’11’ lines. Sometimes, people genetics play a factor in whether or not you’ll get wrinkles early, so I can’t blame a 29 year old for wanting Botox.
Hi Fran! Does it hurt? I’m getting Botox for the first time next week & im scared
You barely feel it. It’s a tiny needle and you really feel more of a crunch than the pain of a needle.
It’s awesome!it sting a bit at first but it’s so worth it! Enjoy!
34 yrs old and i get 12 units twice a year in my forehead. its not enough to freeze your face at all. my face very expressive and the lines from years of squinting in the sun (i lived in the middle east and south east coast of america) were very pronounced. i dont look years younger, thats not the intention. it has smoothed out my forehead and the crease between my eyes (resting bitchface representative, here). its pretty painless, i havent experienced any negative side effects, and it does make a difference. Im pretty low maintenance- no foundation, natural eyelashes, no flat irons, hair dryers etc- so i figure if i spend 150-200$ a year on preventative care vs 200$ at sephora several times over the year its a win. i love it.
I’ve been getting 20 units on my forehead since I was 35. I’m now 42 and I will definitely keep it up. I only go twice a year so I have movement in my forehead, just no wrinkles! I love the results. However, less is more. I’ve seen some scary frozen faces here in LA!
hahaha! im with you, i live in the OC and the plastic surgery is hilarious. stone faces, emaciated bodies, giant bolt ons and hands and necks that look like the crypt keeper. stay beautiful as you….;)
A friend of mine got botox when she turned 34. I’m turning 33 and although I haven’t seriously considered it, Im thinking…maybe?? My fiance thinks I’m crazy and says I have nothing to worry about BUT not gonna lie…I’m tempted!!!
she has friends???
Haha! And her husband will be out of a job soon because I’m sure nobody wants to take on an overrated and unhealthy quarterback like Cutler. Poor Kristin!
LOL best snark award @cakecakecake
I used to think I was one of the most vain people alive… And maybe I was… But I have to say that at 39, I think I look pretty good. No Botox, no hair color (gonna just grey naturally). Not judging others. I guess I am just too lazy to be that into my looks. I work out, try to eat well and wear my make up. I feel pretty happy with what I have. I don’t envy anyone that feels anxious about turning 30… Cause I think 30 is young. Heck, I think 40 is young. I still think I am young. Maybe I am delusional.
I will say that I envy any parent that feels so confident in what they are doing because I do wake up with anxiety attacks over my child some mornings. I worry all the time that we are screwing him up. I would love to feel like I made all the right parenting choices.
You’re not delusional. I like your outlook.
In my opinion it’s sometimes the people who are absolutely certain they are doing the “only right” thing (i.e. People who believe in no vaccines, raising kids paleo, vegan, fruitarian, never having tasted ice cream like the Brady-bundschens etc) who could stand to have some anxiety.
I mean, not having vaccines is a major decision! you can’t undo that! And same with accidentally depriving your kids of enough calories for them to grow.
I am an NP who lives in an area that with the rise of special diets, kids come in malnourished because their parents have them on a gluten free, sugar free, almost dairy free, vegetable oil free diet (aka paleo)….or a vegan diet, because that cured their eczema but then their kid has no energy and is constipated from so little food.
Maybe hose diets are Ok for adults but I can’t necessarily cosign that kind of diet for kids
And those parents were certain they were doing the right and best thing for their kids just like cavalllari…
Having lived on both coasts, the Botox craze is way more prevalent on West Coast. honestly, think women whom age naturally look better. Since living here I can detect Botox face a mile away. Unless you just get a small amount fill in a few wrinkles, its doesn’t look natural. Makes the face shiny, a bit bloated, muscles don’t react with expressions. Sunscreen is more important than any filler you can put into your face. Wrinkles aren’t as aging as sagging (which can happen from sun) and dislocations.
Lalu, you’re my hero.
I have a question. I heard repeated Botox use can atrophy facial muscles causing your face to look worse if you have to stop using it. Is this true?
I’m not against Botox, I’m actually considering it but if it’s going to make me look worse in the long run I’m not sure I want to start the habit.
Yep, itĀ“s a theory, which I personally think makes sense. If your muscles are not moving because they are paralyzed there is going to be atrophy which will likely lead to sagging. I donĀ“t have any personal experience with Botox though, I think it is best you just talk about your concerns with a dermatologist.
That’s what I’m thinking too…it makes sense
Not a lot of evidence on this but some Derms agree and suggest using different fillers as you age or not using Botox before 40.
I just looked up the twin study. Unless there is a more comprehensive study, this study was done using only one set of twins!! This does not tell us much. Moreover, the observations were made 7 months after one of the twins had botox !!! Not even a year passed in between. The study only talks about lines, it does not say anything about how paralyzed and weakened the muscles might be. I think lines are only one aspect of the problem. The sagging of the skin is a more important problem and I think botox does contribute to that problem. Lastly, botox causes an unnatural look after a while, regardless of the dosage…. as the dosage will necessarily increase in time anyway. There are so many natural treatments, from laser to ultherapy that I cannot believe women so young will do such things as botox and fillers to themselves. No botox person myself.
Good catch. Just like the bra study (not wearing a bra makes for perkier boobs). When you look at the study it was women under 30, most under age 25, college age. Of course they didn’t have saggy boobs, most were under the age 25. These studies should be looked at in detail versus just reading an article on them.
Botox can have serious side effects like respiratory depression.
If you inject it to your diaphragm
Good for her, I guess. I mean, no one “needs” botox, but I have a few friends at 30 who could use it. Thankfully, although I don’t look young, I’m not starting to wrinkle. I have a few friends who look really rough already. It’s just genetics, I guess. Well, and skin/suncare.
But, if my friends are happy with their faces, who am I to judge?
I got Botox for the first time at 29 then had a pregnancy and nursed so didn’t get it again for a couple of years. I’m 34 now and I get it about twice a year. I have facial movement, just fewer lines. People are often surprised when I tell them my age as they think I look more like mid 20s. I tried filler once around my mouth and would not do it again. I believe it’s the filler that gives such an unnatural appearance, not Botox. If you don’t overdo the Botox no one would ever know.
The thing about Botox and plastic surgery is that it makes an enviroment that you have to get work done or you don’t look like you are “fresh” or “taking care of yourself” or whatever. It is bad enough that women need to wear make up. At least make up is fun and creative and not permanent. But people would think of you differently if you do not use make up at all. I do not want the same happen with Botox and plastic surgery which are expencive and can be dangerous. Society where rich can look plasticy young and rest and look down upon does sound close to a dystopian YA novel or whatever but could actulaly happen. So I get actresses doing these things for their career but dislike others people doing it.
I agree. That’s exactly how I feel about breast implants. Like do we want to get to the point where every single woman HAS to have major surgery every 10 years to be considered “acceptable.” I am very pleased they seem to be falling out of favour (though I have no doubts they’ll come back ‘in’ again at some point.)
This week I came into work one day without make up. I got so many comments. “Why is your face so red today?” “are you feeling okay?” “You look tired today.” “Oh I can tell you didn’t sleep well last night”
Nope, it’s just you people are used to seeing my concealed and carefully painted face. This is what a normal female face looks like. A normal female face has some undereye colour. A normal female face may have some redness. A normal female face can have eyelashes that point down instead of up.
It’s really sad. I would never dare attend a client meeting without a full face of makeup. Going without make up just isn’t acceptable in society. I mean you can certainly go without, but if you think there aren’t societal costs to that choice…think again.
I have totally thought about this, too. Extensively. I choose to not wear makeup to work because I expect my employees and patients to see me and respect me as I am and get used to how an unmade face looks. But I know I look better with it. And sometimes, it makes me feel really good about myself. (The rest of the time, I despise spackling anything except sunblock and moisturizer on my face.) I just wonder, am I giving in to the expectation of how a woman is “supposed to look” if I wear it? How badly will those of us who are makeup- or filler- or Botox-free stand out when the world is full of women out age doing these things, as we all age? There is no right or wrong answer; I just worry about it. Also, there is no way men have to conform to these pressures like we do. Why should we? I get it if you like it and it helps your self esteem, I just disagree with the concept of “needing” Botox. Needs are subjective and their origins should be evaluated. Related note: I was seeing my ex-dermatologist for adult acne and one day, she asked if I had considered preventative Botox. It was so obviously a sales pitch for her practice that I no longer believed she had my best interest in mind and never went back.
Yes, this is my feeling too. We are already expected to do so much to ourselves as women just to be socially accepted. Why do we need to add Botox, fillers, and surgery to the list of what is considered mandatory to be presentable?
29?? I remember watching laguna beach when I was a kid and now she is a year older than me? She must be at least 33-34 by now
Nah, it was indeed my junior year of college, 2004 iirc, for the season one premiere and totally remember it coming on after real world! She was a junior in high-school, therefore a senior when it aired. I just turned 33, so adds up to me.
But dang, time flies. Holy crap. Does that mean flared jeans, cargo pants and pointy heels are due to be In again soon? Lol
Facial exercise really helps. I recommend it.
There have been scientific studies on all kind of facial exercise regimes and devices that assist with doing so. Yeah they showed doing facial exercises does NOT decrease wrinkling and in fact, can INCREASE wrinkling. Lack of exercise isn’t what causes wrinkling. Just think how much exercise our jaws already get!
Well it has helped me. Particularly the nose exercise (I like to call it “the bunny” which helps with under eye wrinkles a d cheek sagging) and mouth exercise where you move air from one cheek to the other. I have zero lines around my mouth now but when i started I had two fine lines. Zero crows feet. It’s not just wrinkles but sagging as well.
Anywho,just my experience.
So she doesn’t like vaccinations for her kids but considers injecting botulism into her face?
Huh?
I have been getting Botox since I was 35. It really really isn’t a big deal. You don’t have to freeze your whole face, and the worst case scenario is if it is “too much”, it wears off in 3-4months. 6 at the most. There are so many real things to worry about as we age, financial, health wise etc . I’m shocked about the level of fear over Botox. Seriously, I swear to god, this is not gonna ruin your face, turn you into a freak, etc. It can’t. It wears off, and most likely you will wish it would last longer. Worry about Trump instead, THAT is a legitimate concern! And to anyone who is gonna lecture me, just ssshhhh…I don’t care lol.
Well she does look a little tired. Just put Preparation H all over you face and call it a day.
I hear the polio vaccine takes years off your face since you’re not worried about death from said Polio.
One of my sister’s gets light Botox. You absolutely can’t tell and she has less wrinkles than the rest of us. She found someone good.
I live in Southern California between Orange County and Los Angeles. When i head either direction I see a lot of malnourished bodies and frozen faces. I am 31 and I started using a collagen cream. I few weeks ago I got mistaken for a HS student by some HS girls. I think it’s generally working as my face remains generally wrinkle free . I’m tall and not particularly thin lso I don’t fit the SoCal aesthetic, but lately Ive been doing a better job of getting my veggies and drinking plenty of water. All of these cosmetic procedures at such a young age (yes I still think I’m young!) is shocking and sad and unnecessary to me.