Two Fridays ago, Jennifer Lawrence appeared on an episode of The Graham Norton Show. I covered it last Sunday, and I pointed out that one of the “cute” stories that Jennifer told was actually pretty f—king offensive. I’m generally a J-Law Apologist, but even I couldn’t justify her “embarrassing” story. Interestingly enough, Graham Norton and/or the BBC took down that particular clip (which they officially released ahead of the show’s airing) in the wake of the scandal. So what was the story? This was how J-Law told it:
“We were filming in Hawaii, and there were…sacred…rocks — I dunno, they were ancestors, who knows — they were sacred. And you’re not supposed to sit on them, because you’re not supposed to expose your genitalia to them. I however, was in a wet suit for this whole shoot, so, oh my god they were so good for butt itching! One rock that I was butt-scratching on ended up coming loose, and it was a giant boulder and it rolled down this mountain and it almost killed our sound guy. It was this huge dramatic deal and all the Hawaiians were like, ‘It’s the curse!’ and I’m over in the corner going, ‘I’m your curse. I wedged it loose with my ass’.”
Not so charming. Not even funny in the slightest. She’s making fun of the idea that rocks would be sacred to native Hawaiians, and OMG, isn’t it hilarious to scratch your ass on someone else’s sacred site? And isn’t it amazing to destroy a sacred site with your ass, not to mention almost kill someone because you’re just SO OMG REAL? Yeah, the story was awful and she was getting well-deserved sh-t for it all week. There was a steady stream of Twitter and Facebook outrage. I didn’t think J-Law would actually say anything about it though. But she posted this apology on her Facebook:
From Jen, to the internet:
I meant absolutely no disrespect to the Hawaiian people. I really thought that I was being self deprecating about the fact that I was “the curse”, but I understand the way it was perceived was not funny and I apologize if I offended anyone.
I know we throw around the word “privilege” a lot, but… yeah, this is privilege. “I really thought that I was being self-deprecating” is still pretty awful. As in, even years later, whenever she thinks about that story, she thinks of it as a funny anecdote about how she’s just so real and klutzy and bad things always happen TO HER. She never once stopped and thought, “Is this story actually offensive?” That’s privilege. And it wasn’t merely “perceived” as not-funny. It was actually not funny full-stop. Would she use a crucifix to pick a thong out of her ass? Would she fart on a Koran? Would she barf on a menorah? Why was this story any different? Because it involved something sacred to Hawaiians?
Photos courtesy of Fame/Flynet.
Are we really surprised that a white, pretty girl who grew up rich and got famous really early is privileged? I’m shocked.
SHOCKED I tell you !!
Thank goodness I was sitting down when I read this.
Won’t somebody please think of the children!
So only white girls act entitled?
This is a case of someone’s lack of sensitivity in telling a story – why bring race into it? Would it have been more or less offensive if the girl in question was hispanic or black or asian?
Having said that, I could easily see self doing the same thing (bum-scratching rocks) she did. (Hope I have the sense not to belabour the deed to the national public however)
It wouldn’t be different if a POC told the story, but being white ( and growing up rich, and being pretty) does play into her privilege.
What an extraordinary set of conclusions! I’ll submit your statement is just as vapid as her story – and the racist undertones makes it much more dangerous.
let me guess: you are white.
also there is no racism against white people.
No, white girls are certainly not the only ones who act entitled around sacred sites and to blame it on her whiteness isn’t exactly on point, I agree. What she did is still offensive and disrespectful as hell and her apology is weak. If she were a 7 year old child rubbing her ass on a sacred site, it would still be extremely annoying and that kid should get an earful.
QueenB, OMG yes there it is! Let me guess you are American right? Well there is big world outside and racism is not just something coming from white people towards people of color.
I want to know more about this, please could you explain??? Where are white people being opressed by the colour of their skin? Thanks!
They certainly act extra entitled, it’s called white privilege. If you’re white and born into a country that was founded through white supremacy with laws that were white supremacist only 40 years ago (Native Americans in the US didn’t have a right to their religion until the 1970s) then yeah you’re pretty privileged. White people have had legal, educational, cultural, religious and financial privilege in the United States for HUNDREDS of years while everyone else was actively denied. Certainly half a century of “equality” hasn’t fixed such a deep cultural and historical problem.
Seems like she doesn’t give two sh**s about the Hawaiian people either, she not only found it amusing that she offended them but didn’t bother to address them in her apology; which is ultimately a non-apology “sorry if you were offended” anyways.
Racism in Europe – a really simple phrase to google that even wikipedia can explain perfectly (for starters). And in my opinion is just plain out ignorant to throw all people of the same color in one group. Racism is a too big and too complex word for that.
It’s not so much that it’s only offensive when white women say/ do/ etc. these sort of things – it’s that, 95% of the time, it’s white people who are being disrespectful to other cultures. So, yes, I would say that her race – and the privilege that whiteness grants – is certainly of note here.
(I say this as a white woman. Just FYI.)
LadyWish if you are talking to me (otherwise please ignore it), non of my comets said there is no such thing as white privilege. And as far as this article goes – Jen was truly offensive (not the first time) and stupid for what she said and done (I do not like her and she deserves all the shit she is getting for it and more). People need to learn and respect other cultures and beliefs even when they don’t share them. FYI tho, my comments were referring to QueenB’s statement that there is no racism against white people, what is not true because millions of people around the whole world experience it. It’s not always color based and as sad as it is it goes in all directions white-black, white-white, black-white, black-black… It’s a lot more severe issue.
What is at issue here is JLaw’s ignorance and arrogance. She was told not to sit on sacred rocks, and she chose to rub her butt on the rocks anyway. I suspect if the site was sacred to Christians she would have done the same thing because she thinks the world revolves around her. I believe ego is more at fault than skin color.
Also, as someone of European-Lebanese descent, I don’t think white privledge is the root cause of every ignorant thing white people do. Some people are just assholes.
“It’s not always color based and as sad as it is it goes in all directions white-black, white-white, black-white, black-black”
I think this is xenophobia, not racism.
@Queen B
Let me guess: you aren’t white.
To say that white people can’t experience racism – specifically racial prejudice – is close minded and incorrect. ANY RACE CAN EXPERIENCE it, that’s why it’s called RACISM. If you want to make the argument that white people can’t experience racial oppression (in America), which is much more serious and detrimental than racial prejudice, then I would agree with you. However, I don’t think race has anything to do with this. Jlaw is an insensitive a$$hole. It’s just her personality – I don’t think white privilege has anything to do with it. No other white people were disrespecting the sacred rocks. The same way that Naomi Campbell thinks it’s okay to abuse her staff: that’s her personality and her own skewed moral compass which make her think it’s okay to treat other people like dirt.
@MP I came back to see if @Don’tCare was going to tell you where in the world white people were being oppressed because of the color of their skin….
But she was always like that ( and I never liked her). I’m surprised people are outraged now, when there are so many problematic things she said before and everyone thought it was cute.
+1
I like (Liked?) her a lot and am so surprised the transphobic/biphobic mess she has been in the past has never gained attention. She is just quirky yall.
+3
She’s always been obnoxious. I’ve never liked her and think she is incredibly overrated in every way.
+5
I don’t get what she was thinking when she told this story?? Is she really so entitled that she wouldn’t realize that even just the mocking way she spoke about the sacred rocks was offensive? That not everyone worships the big bearded white man in the sky? That was her first offense.
Her second: rubbing her ass on the rocks.
Her third: laughing about it all as she tells it.
I have never liked her and she isn’t giving me any reason to change my mind.
Jennifer lawrence didn’t grow up rich. Her mother ran a day camp and her father was in construction.she just recently was asked question would her kids have the childhood she had and her answer was no. Her kids would grow up rich.
Not sure I understand the question but… pretty much no one’s kids will grow up the waythey did, as far as Hollywood is concerned. Gwyneth Paltrow’s kids, maybe. They’re now the 1%, that doesn’t mean none of them were rich before. Just not insanely rich.
To be fair she didn’t grow up rich at all, she grew up firmly middle class but in KY. So am I surprised by her ignorance? Not at all. That is privilege speaking and even as a fan of hers I was pissed at this story. Then her “apology” made it worse. She should not have told this story again in 2016 when people are annoyed that white people are constantly doing sh*t to desecrate minority cultures. You would think she has a team to check her but they seem to be asleep at the wheel
I read a lot on twitter that the people who are defending her actions the most are the ones who get upset over protests about the American flag
*snicker*
When Hilary Duff apologized recently for her pilgrim/native American outfit, I think she actually sounded very sad and sincere….
“I am so sorry to people I offended with my costume….”It was not properly thought through, and I am truly from the bottom of my [heart] sorry.” from Twitter
She just apologized. It makes it worse when people add in “If anyone was upset” or “If anyone was offended.”
Yes exactly privilege is saying “I’m sorry you got offended.” Instead of “I’m sorry I’m an ignorant dumbass who should have had a decent history professor, read a book, and/or not taken anthropology online at community college.” White privilege is the root of racism.
“I apologize *IF* I offended anyone”.
Because it’s obviously YOUR fault if you’re a snowflake who can’t handle the RILLNESS!!!111
Am I the only one hoping Passengers flops hard so she and notable animal rights activist (sarcasm) Chris Pratt take some time off?
No, you’re not the only one. I concur x 1000. I honestly don’t think the movie will be that successful anyway, from the previews, it looks terrible. I was more hoping it would flounder due to Chris (absolutely dislike him with a fiery passion) but now JenLaw has given me even more reason.
Her apology was not worded well, makes me wonder did she really pen that op ed about women and equal pay. I say no, she is not that eloquent and now I believe she is a fraud to boot.
Her NON-apology was poorly worded. No one cares if an ACTUAL apology is poorly worded, because, in that case, it really is the thought that counts.
That equal pay thingy was very well-written. I highly doubt she wrote it, she’s a redneck at heart.
I don’t think it’ll do as well as expected, but only because the marketing decided to pit a sci-fi space fantasy story as a holiday alternative to a Star Wars movie.
No, you’re not the only one. I have a feeling this movie is going to tank hard.
Yeah, that wording bothered me, too. Also the fact that it’s addressed “To the internet”. How about an apology addressed TO THE HAWAIIANS? Speaks volumes to what she actually cares about.
+1
I hate that sort of “apology”. It is not an apology! She is not taking this seriously at all. What a POS.
Someone call the wambulance… How dare she make light of their degenerate beliefs of “curses” and “sacred rocks”.
LOL this world is going back into the dark ages.
Wow, really? This is ignorant beyond belief. And do you think the reaction would be the same if she did it to a cross?
My reaction would be the same, yes. The only ignorance here is the public shaming of someone who doesn’t adhere to other people’s dumb ass spiritual nonsense.
Well, frankly, it would probably be in most European countries. To me, this is one of those incidents where my brain tells me that there are people who takes these things seriously and just because I don’t, it doesn’t mean it’s not a legitimate reaction to be offended. But I just can’t muster up the energy to actually feel it. Religion and everything surrounding it is just not that much of a hot button issue here. Atheism is not a dirty word either. That doesn’t mean I go out of my way to offend religious people and their beliefs. I don’t walk into a church half naked because that’s not my house so I respect the rules. But this OUTRAGE … over symbols? Eh.
But I agree, she probably would NOT have told this story had it involved a church or a Jewish/Muslim site or symbol. So that in itself is bad enough. If you take religion seriously, extend that courtesy to everyone’s.
Dori: it’s not about adherence to other people’s spirituality, but rather respect. I’m agnostic, but I live here in Hawaii and I know how deeply Native Hawaiians hold onto their religion and culture. It is particularly important to them because they were completely steamrolled in the late 19th century when the US government overthrew their queen. These are small islands, and small communities, and Native Hawaiians work very hard to ensure their culture doesn’t fade away.
@Hazel
Thank you. Shoot I went to pick up a lava rock and had about 20 future family memebers set me straight. I greatly appreciated the lesson.
@Hazel
Do you live in Mililani?!
@Nicole
Honolulu!
@Dori
“The only ignorance here is the public shaming of someone who doesn’t adhere to other people’s dumb ass spiritual nonsense. ”
Your assessment of someone else’s spiritual values doesn’t come into the religious/cultural tolerance equation. It doesn’t matter how stupid and unscientific you think it is. You give leeway to people’s cultural beliefs because that’s what tolerance is about.
Pretty smug comment, if you ask me.
I’m sure to those of other faiths maybe some Christian sites or relics might seem degenerate, so who are you to decide what’s worth being sacred or not?
I’m sure those defending their sacred river at
Standing Rock would beg to differ with your opinion.
This is why no one likes atheists.
And THIS is why religious people are idiots! /s Way to generalize about a whole swath of people you know nothing about.
+1 i cant stand atheists. its also most often used a a front for islamophobia.
@sue, I’m not sure if the sarcasm was directed at me or dori. Either way, I’d like to clarify that I don’t think all atheists are pompous a**es. Incidentally, I was one for a number of years, so I know it’s possible to not believe in deities, but still respect others’ cultures.
However, haughty disdain for religion has become far too prevalent in the atheist community, particularly among the pillars of the community (e.g. Dawkins, Sam Harris, Michael Shermer, Penn Jillette, the Amazing Atheist, James Randi, etc). Sure, not every atheist is an anti-religious a-hole. But way too many are, and it affects people’s perceptions.
Perhaps it would’ve been more accurate to say “this is why so many people are turned off by the atheist community (among other reasons),” but I was in a hurry at the time.
LOL I find it funny when religious people whine and complain about being persecuted/attacked by atheists and nonbelievers yet straight up say the dislike ALL atheists. Maybe atheists are hostile because we actually are one of the most persecuted groups? I try to respect everyone’s beliefs but I’ll admit, sometimes I don’t see a point in keeping an open mind with people who prefer to issue blanket statements.
@Marshmellow so the atheist community is supposed to change for religious people’s comfort? The religious community doesn’t need to change (narrow-minded, hypocritical). Okay then that makes all the sense in the world.
WWJD, indeed. Probably not be a dick like some of his religious fellows are.
No one? You mean religious people. That’s not everyone, that’s just religious people. I don’t mind them at all except when they talk like you. In my experience, it’s not atheists who are offended all day long. It’s not atheists who, as Sandy points out, whine and complain about not being respected. People of faith need to chill the f*ck out. If you’re secure in your faith, why do you care what anyone else believes?
@QueenB
I’m an atheist but was annoyed with her story–it’s disrespectful and marginalizing.
I’m also not islamaphobic.
I just don’t believe in god. That’s all atheists have in common with one another. There are no other rules or shared beliefs.
This is why no one likes blanket statements, overgeneralizations, and stereotypes.
Also, Salman Rushdie, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Kumail Nanjiani, etc. are all atheists, so….. they are Islamophobic? :/
Wow. I didn’t realize there was such hatred for Atheists. I can understand why though, what with all of the wars we’ve caused, all of the hatred and genocide of those who are different. Oh wait. That wasn’t us.
@Sue E
Were you Suis Generis on Gawker?
I’ve already stated that not all atheists are pompous a**es. Though I dislike the atheist community as a whole for a number of reasons, I don’t particularly care what it does or how religious people perceive it.
However, I was a part of the atheist community for some time, and from my experience, there were a lot of people who felt the need to relentlessly mock anything that even smelled vaguely religious. Not all, but a lot. Similarly, I don’t think all gamers are sexist, but too many are and sexist behavior is defended far too often in the gaming community.
There were crimes commited in the name of atheism aswell ( Stalin prosecuted and killed thousands of people because they were religious).
There is nothing wrong with being an atheist or a religious person. There is just no need to be obnoxious about it.
This has nothing to do with atheism, its why not one likes AS*HOLES.
Gee, thanks. I’m an atheist who chooses NOT to disparage anyone else or their sacred beliefs, but great to know that you don’t like me just because I don’t believe in it. It doesn’t mean I am disrespectful…unlike you.
“Wow. I didn’t realize there was such hatred for Atheists.” Ditto. I had no clue until today that atheists were a hated group. More hate. I can’t wait to turn my back on 2016.
@Lady D,
According to this study, atheists were the most disliked group in the US until about 2014. Now it’s Muslims. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/muslims-acism-america-most-disliked-group-discrimination-anti-mosque-a7311151.html
Also, the distrust towards atheism has been around for decades, so 2016 isn’t to blame … this time.
How about you don’t lump atheists all together? Not all atheists are smug assholes who are disrespectful of others’ beliefs. All atheism means is a lack of belief in a deity. It’s not a catch-all term for every ignorant intolerant asshole.
@Vox,
How about you read the rest of the thread because I already clarified three times that not all atheists are pompous a**es.
“+1 i cant stand atheists. its also most often used a a front for islamophobia.”
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Although I’m the atheist side of agnostic myself, the thing I find really annoying about atheists is the need to tell you they’re atheists and use it as a qualifier. They’re like vegans. They want you to know and they remind you constantly.
@Godwina,
Indeed, the New Atheist movement has become very intolerant of religion, particularly Islam, in recent years. And right-wing and libertarian, among other things. New Atheism is basically just old imperialism with less God… http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/01/29/new-atheism-worse-than-you-think/
Granted, there are groups like secular humanists and agnostics and left-wing atheists who disagree with the New Atheist movement. The problem is that the New Atheists are by far the most visable group, and that’s what outsiders are most likely to see.
It’s not even about beliefs. It’s about being a good guest. Do you go to someone’s house and sh*t all over their sofa? If you’re being hosted by someone who offers you a delicacy from their culture, do you wrinkle your nose and scream “EW!”? No. It’s just about being polite. And maybe recognizing that retaining indigenous beliefs are a big part of retaining indigenous culture. So unless you’re also a fan of colonial-led cultural genocide (or, say, eugenics) and equally unaware that cultural diversity is an evolutionary strength, I’d be a little less ready to mock all the poor stupid natives with their poor stupid beliefs from the top of your superior enlightened mountain of truth.
Thanks for saying that greenie. It’s about simple respect.
Yes! Well said, @greenieweenie
I am atheist and I don’t disrespect cult or religious places. I am a respectful tourist . It is not about religion or culture.It is about respect
It’s not even about religion. It’s about respecting another’s culture/property. You don’t break or destroy parts of Angkor Wat, Callanish standing stones, Easter Island statutes, Hulduholl (Elfin Hill), ect. It’s also illegal to remove minerals from a US national park (A man was charged in 2014 for defacing Utah’s Goblin Valley by intentionally pushing over a million year old boulder). If she made an honest mistake, fine, but don’t go bragging about it on a live show to be streamed across the world for all to see your preciousness. She thought she was cute the first time she shared the story. When it didn’t get enough attention, she decided to show the world how “above it all” she really was.
Yes, I am an atheist as well, but being respectful towards other cultures and beliefs, especially indigenous cultures who have been colonized and discriminated so much is just being a decent human being.
Thank you, well said. Pluralism is really just about consideration and manners. Shocking that it’s so goddamn hard for some people.
Would you scratch your arse on a grave stone and think it was funny if it then fell over?
She knew in advance that these rocks had special significance to the locals but still went ahead, acted like a dick and then made a joke about it. Not OK.
1. The stone in question was NOT part of the burial site. A cultural advisor who was on set said it was(thankfully) not part of the actual burial site.
2. She didn’t know it was sacred. here is the interview with Michael&kelly she did in 2013 where she states that she DID NOT know the rocks were sacred beforehand. https://twitter.com/Nitro_Jen1990/status/806819595474575361
Jennifer was not told in advance rocks were sacred. The crew from hunger games movies had permission to film in that location. People lately want to be outraged over everything. There’s a lot of real bad stuff going on in the world to be mad at.
Even if not a gravestone, rocks can & do have cultural & spiritual importance in Hawaii. And while a cultural monitor may have been on-set, I can assure you that a different Native Hawaiian cultural monitor might have had a different opinion.
Whether she knew ahead of time or not, her telling of the story now is culturally insensitive.
So sick of people dismissing bad behavior and then accusing those with morals names & sh*ty 6th grade slang terms. Would you be OK with her gong to a graveyard and doing the same things with tombstones? Its not “sensitive”when people have respect. Its called good manners, respect and intelligence. Which may be something you don’t like. Feel like the mockers are really just cold hearted people with zero empathy or respect for people.
I agree, as I read you’re highly offensive and tone deaf comment; we are returning to the Dark Ages. The only thing missing from your self-important snarkery is calling the indigenous people that are trying to protect their ravaged culture ‘savages’.
you guys, this is a big, fat, grizzly troll. Don’t feed it.
Yeah, I’m an atheist (or perhaps a skeptical agnostic), and while I’m firmly against anyone using their religious beliefs to oppress and manipulate others, I realize that spirituality/religion can be a source of strength and comfort for many people. Especially for groups that have dealt with a lot of suffering. It’s something that it very tied up with culture and therefore identity too. I sympathize with your feelings, but the issue is more complex than merely the secular-religious dichotomy. There are intersecting narratives here: yes, religion can be used to oppress and harm people (besides being fantastical), but sometimes belief in the impossible is necessary for survival in the face of extreme privation, and it can hold communities together. Like against the so-called ‘civilizing’ forces of white colonialists, just as a ‘random’ example. JLaw is now part of the narrative of white people not respecting Hawaiians (to understate the matter . . clearly colonialism goes beyond mere disrespect, but I’m contextualizing with JLaw in mind). JLaw only cares about her own narrative though, I’m pretty sure, not what she is when she’s part of other’s narratives.
I’m the same way. I don’t have any belief in deities and I distrust organised religion but I have all the reverence in the world for personal faith. I think personal faith (no matter what religion or belief system one adheres to) is a beautiful thing and I despise anyone who tries to tear down others on the basis of their beliefs.
Why is it any different to see the amercian flag as “sacred”? Or consider how much fuss there is if anyone refuses placing thair hand on their heart when the american national anthem is performed!!!!???!! European find that…well…peculiar.
But hey…here we are “just” talking about a hawaiian rock.
Thats oh so funny to Jenny L.
So worshipping rocks and land is degenerate?? Ha! Christianity got its real start when leaders forced their subjects to become Christian and to make them happy, the made Christmas near Yule, Easter near the pagan Oestara, the symbols of which are eggs and bunnies; they took the oil and incense, and many other rituals from the pagans.
Christians – today’s pagans. 🙂
Ah, the old “I apologize if you’re offended” apology. It would have been better if she hadn’t “apologized” at all. She obviously couldn’t care less and still doesn’t understand why people are angry.
She should wipe her bum with the American flag and see what her fellows say to that. Maybe she did because the US are cursed with Trump 😛
She said stupid sh*t and her apology was half *ass. Sigh, business as usual.
As in the book Gone Girl, this is how you play the “cool” girl. She is always trying to playing the cool girl the boys like.
Yeah, clearly she’s trying to play the “cool girl” all the time even though she will discuss topics like the wage gap in Hollywood because we all know that’s soooooo popular with the boys. Oh and that time she called out all the men who looked at her photos saying it was a sex crime and shamed them, that was such a “cool girl” move. /s
Right, if something is negatively affecting her, she will use a narrative of oppression (in the wage gap case that was feminism) to her advantage (getting a raise). Otherwise though, I don’t think she really has much of a social conscience. I think that’s the root of the basic white feminist problem: it’s not about making society better for everybody, but is instead used just to advance their own group or maybe even just their own self. Did JLaw do anything for feminism beyond using it to improve her own lot? I don’t really follow her, but I’m guessing the answer is no? That’s how she strikes me anyways: not particularly concerned for other people. I do think she plays a subtype of the ‘cool girl’, in that she seems to only play for team JLaw (acknowledging here that I don’t closely follow her movements so maybe that’s an inaccurate characterization, but I’m just too lazy to fact-check celebrity news.)
@Mae
Um, wow that’s an incredibly dumb way to frame it. Are women not allowed to speak out now about a issue that affects them without being labeled as selfish? If a LGBTQ actor talked about homophobia in the industry, would you label them as selfish for speaking up about an issue they EXPERIENCED FIRST HAND? I wouldn’t think so.
And the wage gap issue had nothing to do about her stuffing her own pockets, she was talking about how she failed as a negotiator and didn’t speak up for herself because she did’t want to piss anyone off (which frankly a lot of women experience in the workplace). The larger point that she was trying to make was that women should speak up and be paid EQUALLY if they do the same amount of work/have the same credentials that a man does. She even recognised and acknowledged that her own problem in terms of salary isn’t relatable but she wanted to address this issue as it’s a problem many working women face across many fields.
She also has spoken out against the republican party and has called them out for their homophobia and anti-women rhetoric: http://www.dailywire.com/news/1100/jennifer-lawrence-trashes-christians-republicans-james-barrett
“I was raised a Republican, but I just can’t imagine supporting a party that doesn’t support women’s basic rights,” “It’s 2015 and gay people can get married and we think that we’ve come so far, so, yay! But have we? I don’t want to stay quiet about that stuff,”
She also said that Kim davis makes her “embarrassed I’m from Kentucky” and said that all the crosses carried by her Christian supporters “may as well be pitchforks.” “All those people holding their crucifixes, which may as well be pitchforks, thinking they’re fighting the good fight. I grew up in Kentucky. I know how they are.”
Here she is talking about voter turnout: “This election, it was the lowest voter representation in 72 years. Young people have to get out, you have to get out and change things, you really do. It’s up to you. We’ve wrecked this world and if you’re gonna fix it, you’ve gotta do it now.
She’s also a staunch supporter of Planned parenthood and has called out anti-abortion campaigners. https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/jan/06/jennifer-lawrence-defends-planned-parenthood-against-anti-abortion-campaigners
In addition to all of that, she’s given 2 million dollars to Kosair’s children hospital to open a new hospital wing.
I guess we can all start calling women who support themselves and try to get ahead in a male dominated industry “cool girls” now to slander them since its the “cool” new term. I mean, how dare any women claim to like similar things that males do right? she must be faking it! /s
OK, like I said, I didn’t feel like fact-checking, and clearly she’s not as bad as I thought, so thanks for doing the leg-work there. While I acknowledge your points about her charitability, my main point was framed using the above article. No, it’s not selfish to stand up for the rights of your own group, and that is not what I said (I said I think some people use these movements purely for themselves, though perhaps not JLaw after all). But my reply was in the context of JLaw’s actions reported in this article: she doesn’t care about Hawaiian issues. Those issues are a joke to her. That is a major issue with some subsets of white feminism: the lack of intersectionality -caring about other groups’ issues, particularly POC. She isn’t just part of an oppressed group (women), but also part of an oppressor group (white people). That was my point, but I guess I should have written it somewhere else, and not in reply to your comment. But do you see what I’m getting at?
Yeah, your point about ambitious women doesn’t apply, I wasn’t arguing that, nor would I. Don’t really care about what hobbies people pursue either.
At least now I feel OK about still somewhat liking her. She’s clueless, but not the worst. The non-apology was crap though.
@Jess: I agree with you about the misuse and overuse of the term ‘cool girl’, and also the disturbing sexist trend of dismissing women as selfish for talking about oppressions that apply to their group, (a good example of that would be how Channing Tatum was praised as a feminist hero and good male ally for identifying as a feminist and calling out misogyny and rape culture while being a white guy who capitalizes on looks and sex appeal, while Emily Ratajkowski was dismissed as a selfish/narcissistic/fake/white/’convenient’ feminist for doing the same but just being a woman doing it). But I also agree with Mae’s comment below about white feminism.
That sentence..”I really thought I was being self-deprecating”..oh my god, my dislike of her keeps growing. And how is that possible because I already thought she unbearable from the jump. All that tells me is that she plans every idiotic statement beforehand, and she still sounds like an ass. She and Amy Schumer are perfect together. As far as “privilege” I think she’s a damn idiot, and that category of person can come from anywhere.
You’d think her PR team would be smart enough to know by now that the ‘I’m sorry you were offended by my well-meaning remarks’ apology doesn’t really cut it anymore.
I could see how she MAYBE would think that was a kinda sorta funny story. Like it might be a story I would overdramatize to my girlfriends while drinking wine to get them to laugh at my “outrageous” self. But on a national platform ugh not smart.
She has a thing for putting on those stupid extensions whenever she’s hooking up with someone. She put them on first when she was with Chris Martin and now with Aronofsky.
They look cheap and stupid.
So they suit her ?
She is such a turd. She seriously tries so hard to be out there. No one cares. She’s just pissing people off now.
She really is such a try-hard. I have such secondhand embarrassment for her sometimes.
She’s a mainstream celebrity. She should just stick to making films and doing mainstream puff pieces. The majority of her audience don’t care about her private life or social media activity.
That’s not an apology.
And addressing it to “the Internet”? Bullshit.
Exactly. Says everything we need to know about how seriously (or not) she’s taking this. And focusing on the “curse” part of the story, instead of just acknowledging that what she DID was wrong? She’s clueless at best, callous at worst.
I’m so hungover and all I got out of this was “barf on a menorah” and now I’m gonna barf. So omg real
Ugh, Shambles, me too. Haven’t been this hungover in so, so long… holiday party for you too?
Graduation party. A lot of my friends are graduating from college. My best friend has so many gay friends, which is fantastic of course. I’ve found that gay men, however, are extremely dangerous to drink around, because they’re really good at encouraging you to take more shots. Ugh. I need a bubble bath.
Standing in solidarity with you, hangover sister! Drink a coke if you can. It saves my life every time.
I haven’t been following this and only read headlines here and there, but is there any proof that her story is true? From what I saw it sounded like one of those made-up-for-talkshows stories that are supposed to be funny but don’t hold a bit of truth.
that would still mean she is dumb and insensitive. comedians get in trouble all the time and basically all of their stories are invented or exaggerated.
Isnt that worse though ? Like she thought oh what would draw a laugh from the audience ?? Making fun of Islander’s sacred stones.
No, she thought that by saying that “she was the curse” in the situation, that she was telling a self deprecating joke.
That’s what I wondered, too. You’d think if filming of this movie had really destroyed a sacred religious site to the extent she describes, there would have been some kind of news or scandal about it at the time, like native Hawaiians protesting the production and calling for a boycott of Hunger Games.
I suspect any filming in Hawaii on state lands requires a cultural monitor, because they’d need to ensure the film crew stayed away from important cultural/archaeological sites AND to ensure they stayed away from such sites not yet discovered. And none of us haoles knows what’s important. And Native Hawaiians frequently don’t agree. It’s a difficult negotiation here & Jennifer has stepped right in it, both with her original actions & with her current telling of the story. Oh, and with the non-apology.
Jennifer Lawerance is in such a bubble I am surprised she can even breathe.
I have travelled a lot but as a WOC (and Canadian) I NEVER would I do what she did. I don’t have the luxury to so ignorant.
I feel like a lot f her stories are made up or at least exaggerated a lot. Which probably makes this worse.
I feel like she’s a raging alcoholic with a personality disorder.
I highly doubt she’ll be around in 10 years. People get bored of her bs.
Would she use a crucifix to pick a thong out of her ass? Would she fart on a Koran? Would she barf on a menorah?
Unfortunately, the answer is probably yes. Because she’s an as*hole. I have never understood the appeal of this girl-she is an obnoxious bully; one of those people who constantly goes out of their way to do stupid, annoying shiz to people and then screams that everyone is too sensitive when they react negatively.
If you watched the clip she didn’t just say those words, she mined the butt itching too and it was very offensive. And all she does is give a one paragraph sorry not sorry apology on Facebook? Seriously?
When she was first on the come up, she actually said a lot of offensive mess, but it was glossed over by great PR. Now, even if you have that, it’s too much to overcome with how powerful social media has become. Her cute, sometimes false stories are going to have to be better vetted.
I suspect her apology actually reflects what happened – she was telling a joke aimed at herself, and it came out all wrong. But let’s all rant and rave at Lawrence instead. According to the great law of tearing down female actresses, she’s due a media roasting for something and this will do just fine…
She’s not being torn down because she’s an actress, she’s being criticized because she keeps telling these stories wherein she does disgusting things and treats things that aren’t hers like trash. A person can do that only so many times before people get sick of it and stop saying, “Oh, she’s just having fun. Oh, she’s so funny.” No, if you keep doing the things she says she does in her stories, you’re gross, and people can only put up with so many gross stories, especially when they’re told in a way that’s supposed to be endearing.
Vanessa Hudgens got ripped apart for writing on that rock in a national park, but it stopped and she hasn’t done it again, as far as we know. If Jennifer Lawrence stopped acting like her gross actions and poor behavior are so funny and no big deal, people would stop ripping her apart for it, too.
Wow so many JLaw apologists. It would offensive if this story was about her using a Bible, crucifix or menorah to scratch her genitals, why any different for Hawaiian sacred objects? I’m atheist but using someone’s sacred sites for scratching your a** is just disrespectful, period. Especially when it’s towards people who have had the religion oppressed through colonization.
On top of that someone almost got seriously hurt/killed because of it. And his/her equipment was destroyed.
But isn’t she just soooo funny? /s I too am concerned about the poor no name she just about killed. Hopefully he didn’t have to replace the equipment himself. $20M/picture and yet probably didn’t even think to reimburse the guy/company.
Maybe, instead of telling truly awkward and awful stories about how “real” she is, maybe she should just BE “real” and stop with the stories.
I really do not like her. Will definetly be giving this episode of Graham Norton a miss
I cannot wait for HW to find the next IT girl because she’s exhausting.
This
She is a mess. Her friendship with Amy S. makes so much sense now. Can’t wait for their movie to come out…
There was nothing funny about the story. Not anything. Least of all that someone almost lose their life and she is sitting in a corner going
“‘I’m your curse. I wedged it loose with my ass’.”
so did she admit it was her. Did she apologize to them or the crew member that almost got killed. Why would she think for a moment it was funny. People can go on and on about her being “so real” and “like us”. Well she just shows time after time that she is not not a very smart person. She has lucked out and made it big in Hollywood and making loads of money doesn’t mean she is smart (intelligent wise). Because all of her Sophomoric comments and stories show it time and time again. “I’m not that smart really, I use dumb jokes and quips to cover it”
I don’t dislike her. She has told some cute stories I liked; but I find her very overrated and over-hyped. That new movie with Chris looks awful. Just shows that outside the franchises she has not had a big hit that she carried along. Grow up JLaw.. or at least tell stories that are actually funny.
Not one single person stopped and thought maybe it’s not a good idea to tell this story??? Her and Amy Schumer being friends makes so much sense.
JLaw needs to get out of her bubble,she’s a mess. Her bodyguard is so handsome.
She has several handsome bodyguards. It amazes me that she typically gets with unattractive men when there are so many other good looking men her age protecting her everyday.
Jennifer is ignorant, not self-deprecating.
I have my doubts as to whether the rock-scratching actually happened, it sounds more like a story she made up to seem more “relatable”. But if it did happen, and she knew she was on a sacred site, it’s appalling…and her non-apology was also appalling.
It is highly appropriate that she tell stories about her ass, since much overt evidence indicates that part of her anatomy defines her ability to think. Doesn’t she have a PR team? Who allowed her to open her dumbass mouth and speak more words to compound the insult? If she were intelligent, she would recognize that was not an apology. She’s sorry if someone feels offended, but no ownership of ignorant behavior. As to all the people commenting that think this is about the color of her skin, or loss of social kindness from a fattened wallet, good for you! How simple life is to think in black and white. I know people of every color (yes, there are more than two), who have been rude, and insulting due to ignorance. I have also known people of every color who when told their behavior or words were thoughtless, had the cloud of ignorance about a subject lifted, and yes, apologized. Sincerely. It can happen.
SCENE: JENNIFER IN TRAILER AFTER BOULDER SNAFU
Jennifer: I am so sorry I did that. I understand it was an ignorant act, and sincerely apologize to the people I offended. If there is anything I can do to make amends, please let me know.
END SCENE.
I watched the video. Jennifer was hysterically funny. I like Jennifer. Yes, the rocks were sacred. And yes, one fell and almost hit someone. But it was her STORY that people reacted to more than the event itself. She told it in a guy chin up to the bar type way and women are NOT allowed to do that. Are we. So you go girl!!! Scratch your ass wherever you effing want.
How does one even scratch the butt with a boulder? I don’t understand why she didn’t just have an assistant giver her a hand. It worked for Stevie Nicks.
Tom Ford made a crucifix out of peens. Madonna caused outrage with Like a Prayer.
Eddie Murphy used to dress up as old jewish men and do a whole character about it.
You know, people do dumb sh*& every day. All day every single day.
Hey, her curse was that guy who leaked her nudes! Oh, why so angry J? He’s just your curse, teeheehee like what so horrid about that teeheehee. I hate this chick. Please make her disappear.
To me, the word ‘if’ pretty much negates an apology. Any apology that begins with ‘I’m sorry IF…’ means the person isn’t accepting responsibility. If they truly understood the issue and believed they were wrong they would say ‘I’m sorry that…’
I think people are too easily offended these days. Everything is insulting to everyone. It’s really not a big deal. Ridiculous that she had to apologise. Give me a break.
How about this: it’s not about religion, necessarily. It’s about going to someone’s house… you know, their home- where they live- in this case, though, the *home* is actually Hawaii and the homeowner is native Hawaiians. (I’m using a sort of expanded metaphor here.) So she goes to someone’s house… *your* house, your own home… and you say “please make yourself at home in my home”. And she goes “okay” and then takes a dump on the floor of… say, your living room or your kitchen, and then wipes her ass on your curtains or with your bedsheets or a dress from your closet. And then maybe when she’s done, she hurls you curtain/sheets/dress out the window and it nails your neighbor and your neighbor falls down and face plants in the street.
Religion doesn’t have to factor in. Maybe it’s more about manners and how she ain’t got none.
I think the rocks were privileged to have J-Laws ass rubbing against them. Just saying.
I’ve always find her overhyped and overrated. And so try hard – she’d say anything to come across as silly and cool when she’s just obnoxious.
Her turning it into a joke and the flippant response to the criticism she got was more problematic and showed more cultural insensitivity than what she actually did, since she didn’t know the rocks were sacred at the time.
Most of these comments sum up why i dont even bother illegally downloading any movie she does, let alone pay money to. She is the most vapid woman and i dont like watching her.
She’s not even a good actor. She really isn’t. So overrated.
Not surprised in the least, she’s just so rude and I’m actually thankful she got shit for it this time.
She is the embodiment of spoiled, entitled, clueless, stupid, vulgar American.
OH BOY! …..This thread went to sh*t faster than one could say to oneself: “Let me not click in the comments” *snickers* all of it… its too easy, something for everyone, Cries of reverse racism. sh*tty “apologies” , blanket statements for and against religions, a soupcon of slut shamery and general ” I hate J-Law” and what not… Truly… exquisite
Young uneducated narcissist with too much money and everyone up her butt thinks she can say anything that comes to mind and of course it’s always ALL about HER.
Shocker.
Why is it so difficult for people to say “I did something wrong and I’m sorry to the people I offended.”?
I can’t really defend her on this one. If she wasn’t told in advance what the significance of the stones were, I could see that being an embarrassing anecdote that you pass along to your friends about what an unintentional asshole you were, but it’s not one I’d relate to the public – and it’s extremely tone deaf in the wake of what we witnessed with the DAPL fiasco.
She’s always a hot mess. I think she does this stuff deliberately to test how viral she can go and her loudmouth persona is also a kind of shield. Those hacked photos of hers were incredibly bad in terms of explicitness and she had a really hard time dealing with that. She still lands all – ALL – the best films and roles though, even though her acting is really mediocre (one hit wonder). The directors think casting her guarantees a hit.