Yesterday, I criticized Tom Hiddleston’s Golden Globes acceptance speech, which was absolutely the most cringe-inducing moment of the awards show, and I’m including Jimmy Fallon’s whole act. I was not alone in my criticism – nearly every entertainment and gossip blog ran pieces on whether Hiddles is self-indulgent or whether he’s just parched for attention. The thing is… while I do think Tom deserved to be criticized, I also understand where his little “aid workers watch The Night Manager!” story went off the rails, and in the moment, I can understand how that kind of thing can happen. My problem is that Tom is almost 36 years old and the Globes speech was part of an unfortunate pattern where he turns into a preening, dancing monkey whenever the camera’s on him. He needs to learn some self-awareness and learn to tamp that sh-t down if he wants to still have a career, you know?
Anyway, Tom knows that we were talking sh-t about him. He posted this to Facebook on Monday:
I just wanted to say… I completely agree that my speech at the Golden Globes last night was inelegantly expressed. In truth, I was very nervous, and my words just came out wrong. Sincerely, my only intention was to salute the incredible bravery and courage of the men and women who work so tirelessly for UNICEF UK, Doctors Without Borders/ Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF), and World Food Programme, and the children of South Sudan, who continue to find hope and joy in the most difficult conditions. I apologise that my nerves got the better of me.
But was that his “only intention”? His story was about how aid workers binge-watched The Night Manager in South Sudan, only Tom used about a thousand more words to say that one sentence. In any case, I agree, it was “inelegant.” Some might even say crass and self-absorbed. I also doubt that he was nervous as much as he was reveling in the fact that all eyes were on him. I’m shocked he didn’t attempt another Robert DeNiro impression.
This did make me feel sorry for him though: on Sunday night, after the Globes, Tom partied at the Chateau Marmont. When he was leaving, TMZ’s videographer/paparazzo chatted with him about how his speech was being criticized for being “self-indulgent.” You can see Tom’s face fall and it’s genuine.
Photos courtesy of WENN, Fame/Flynet.
I don’t think his speech was that bad and if he felt that way and wanted to talk about it – why not?
@sarah agreed
I just watched it, and at first I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt because he does seem kind of bumbly and nervous. But he rehearsed that speech, and he eases in to the story about the aid workers and it is awkward. He was puffing up his feathers, and while his sentiment may have been to shed light on the work of the aid workers in south Sudan, he put all of the focus on him and his performance.
It is BY FAR not the first time I hear a star tell a story of how people approached them in war-torn zones and said that their art helps them cope. I totally understand why that would be touching and memorable to the person producing art. As much as we all hope to touch others, it is always wonderful and even mind-boggling to get a confirmation that art can help even a little bit even in the most dire circumstances. I could see myself sharing that story, too. It wasn’t well-told and it ran on, but since when do we crucify people for that?
I think Christian Slater’s face said it all. It was the wrong place and time to share such a story. And again, it was all about Tom, really, and not about how the power of art to lift people up even in the most dire situation. His smugness really comes through initially on the TMZ video. He walks out thinking he nailed it, thinking people will be praising him. And then his face collapses. And now this whole thing has overshadowed his win. He should have just stopped his thank when he had a chance. The story might have worked better in a print interview or something but not at the podium, but Tom Hiddleston loves attention. From the horrible DeNiro, to the bulgy underwear modelly photos, to the I Heart TS wet tee shirt, he tries so very hard to pull focus.
Timbuktu I agree. Many celebrities are simply better at expressing ideas (or maybe have more innate wisdom) than others, and Unicef graciously thanked him for putting a spotlight on their work. It seems he cares a lot about his image (human trait) but hasn’t polished his delivery enough to convince us he doesn’t care about his image. His goal is to be “authentic” which is a worthy goal but, the goal immediately negates the authenticity … so give it up Tom … or don’t … I don’t know what the world needs more … lol.
Christian Slater is not someone who sets the bar for giving a sh*t … he came across as a pompous jerk. I am sure many were cringing with discomfort during Tom’s speech but ultimately had a choice to show a little more “empathy” for a Hollywood outsider who just wants to join the club. Self-righteousness isn’t becoming because most of them know their “club” membership is fairly tenuous. Maybe Tom will shine best when he realizes the club kind of sucks.
“he tries so very hard to pull focus. ”
@Rhiley
I think you go too far with your assessment. Tom is not that calculating. Yes he has done some over the top stuff for attention in the past, but most of it was entirely appropriate considering the venues (ie promotional events like comic con, etc). He’s an entertainer by nature. Much of what he’s done is just as much a part of his jovial personality as it is nervousness and poor judgment. His profession requires public interest. Some are more fortunate that fame and good work came easily. Others can’t afford to be too stand off. Fortunately and perhaps unfortunately, Tom is not stand off, aloof or shy. Sure, sometimes he goes bit too far and embarrasses himself, but I see it as he’s trying too hard to be liked and accepted by everyone, fans, press and colleagues alike. This doesn’t surprise me cause there are many talented and successful actors that are insecure and need approval. Even those that come from money and privilege.
Point being, there are some things he’s fumbled like maybe the DeNiro impression, but other things like the underwear modeling are just part of his job that are set up for him, and he trustingly goes along with. The I heart T-shirt was just a silly thing that really has no greater meaning except to celebrity gossipers on social media that think they’re taking some kind of stand. It means nothing, and he meant nothing by it. End of story.
Yes Tom does promote and self congratulate himself. The problem is that he is also sincere and doesn’t see how it comes across in the hyper-critical lens of mainstream celebrity. Also, it’s important to note that Tom OVER complements and praises EVERYONE. And to a fault at that! Many, many times he’s professed someone to be the best this or the best that. How can everybody be the best? But it’s just his way of showing admiration which again is bit over the top and embarrassing but meant well and harmless.
“Christian Slater is not someone who sets the bar for giving a sh*t . . . [or] empathy for a Hollywood outsider who just wants to join their club.”
@Campella
Yeah, who in his day was just another Hollywood ‘brat pack’ doing the HW club scene (probably doing lots of coke too like they all were). It’s great that he’s gone beyond that and is still in the biz as an aging actor. Although that’s way, way easier that being a middle-age actress in HW. Still he is not the standard to which I would off hand judge other younger actors by. Imo, who knows what Slatter really thinks or even cares about the speech. This whole thing smacks more of the lazy entertainment media and social media highlighting a few tweets and making something more of it than what it really is for the clicks as usual.
“Imo, who knows what Slatter really thinks or even cares about the speech. This whole thing smacks more of the lazy entertainment media and social media highlighting a few tweets and making something more of it than what it really is for the clicks as usual.”
Totally agree with you Cranberry!!!!
Timbuktu, It’s like people who post a picture of themselves feeding the poor with a message “the real meaning of Christmas.” Sure , feeding the poor is good, but by posting a picture of themselves with that type of message it’s the grossest type of humble bragging, and makes it all about them (and the accolades they expect for posting something like that on social media).
That’s what Tom Hiddleston did with his remarks. People aren’t making fun of him because he ran on or because he wasn’t polished. They’re calling him out for patting himself on the back but posturing like it’s all about the charities.
His speech was fine, next time he should just get a editor to help him shorten it and get the point across. His speech had good thoughts and he made wonderful points on what Film can do for people in situations you never would think about, but the problem was it came out awkward. It made me actually like him and before this I never cared about him or even paid much attention to him at all.
Nah, I thought it was sweet, you can tell he is nervous and all, but also, I think it’s a nice story.
Alright, ol’ Tom.
Our relationship is tenuous at best, but I’ll give you this one.
I’m not going to knock him for apologizing. It takes a big person to have people telling you you’ve made a self-indulgent arse out of yourself, and then to publicly address it. It wasn’t a “sorry you were offended apology,” he’s bringing a lot of attention to these causes by mentioning them again, and he’s a pretty harmless guy.
We’re alright today, ol’ Tom.
Pah. Feeble contribution, Shambles. Nobody is going to ask you why you are here for THAT.
(Tongue. Cheek. Love you.)
*hurls fudge at both Shambles and Sixer*
Love you both.
I know. The ice in my heart is melting. The clouds in my black soul are clearing. What is this madness?!?
(Muah!!)
Sorry lightpurple and Shambles! Can’t help myself. And all I have to do today is December’s accounts and a bit of invoice-chasing. Not the best moment for LEGS to mess up cos I’ve got time aplenty for sniggering.
*offers more fudge flavours*
@Sixer, but you do it out of love and good-humor with some perspective. He’s a boy toy to make us laugh. And you don’t go overboard.
@lightpurple
I think you are just about right!
He’s definitely harmless and I like to take the peeve out of him…. I mean his actions invite that…. however, considering that sitting at the Globes there were raging and lunatic monsters like Gibson, heck Hiddleston is a gem.
Nah, he’s still an arse. Covering his thirst with nerves doesn’t work.
I am an absolute nervous wreck in public and terrified to do speeches, but I wouldn’t have managed that…. oh well. In my opinion he is and remains affected by foot in the mouth syndrome. It’s chronic now 😂😂
When I was younger, chronic was a word we ‘orrible teenagers misused to simply indicate something was a bit rubbish. If somebody rolled their eyes and said “chronic” at you, you’d curl up and die with the shame of it.
So you just made me laugh!
@Sixer
Never heard it used that way! 😂😂
We learn something new every day…
I think it was probably a short-lived and very localised thing. But it was definitely the put-down du jour for a while back then in my neck of the woods.
@Sixer
I totally adore how languages change from place to place or time to time, it is one of the reasons why I started studying them.
So if I meet Hiddleston I can call him chronic without any danger of him understanding what that means 😂😂😂😂
How does jumbling up a well intentioned message, makes one an “arse”?
Silver – yes indeedy. You can!
@theHord
It wasn’t a remark about the message, but about the person and previous ‘incidents’.
Unless I’m unaware of something serious, it sounds to me like previous ‘incidents’ would make him a social klutz, perhaps. But an “arse”? As in, a staunch imbecile deserving of contempt? If this is an “arse”, what is Trump, then?
Don’t be silly, theHord. That’s just language policing. Arse, in Britisher, can mean anything from twit to *insert really bad swear word here*.
1. LEGume’s speech made him look like an arse.
2. Orange Cheeto’s tweet made him look like an arse.
With 1 being on twit levels and 2 being on *insert really bad swear word here* levels. Any sensible person can distinguish the context.
@Sixer Sure. But isn’t “language policing” the all point of this in the first place? I don’t get why that should only be aimed at Tom. Because, in Tom’s case too, one could say, that, well… “any sensible person can distinguish the context”…
He needs better PR managment. It’s not normal his people didn’t warn him about twitter reactions beforehand.
Luke is not up to it.
Yes, he’s not the only one who needs better and more HW experienced PR. Cumberbatch is in dire need of a new publicist.
Lol, Karon is terrible. Just look how she dresses and you get it.
This. He needs management. I think he didn’t mean to come across as a white savior but he did. He’s managed to torpedo a pretty good and low key rep in the last 8 months or so.
this whole Taylor Swift thing showed us that already.
But these are all GROWN UP people nearing middle age!! Why would they need mommies and daddies to tell them what to say and do??!!!
Nobody in real life has “management” telling us how to behave at our job. That’s what being an adult means. You’re supposed to be managed when you’re a child, not when you’re in your mid thirties!!
I’d like to have managment sometimes and I’m an adult.
And it is Luke’s job to tell him when people are mocking him and reacted badly, otherwise I don’t know why he pays him.
And a bunch of people in real life f- up, and say stuff that might be missconstructed. In fact, I’ll go out in a limb and say EVERYBODY does it. What a notion, eh? Only they don’t tend to do it in front of millions.
Actually, just about everyone who works has management telling them how to behave their job. And because a fairly good number of people do not behave at their jobs, and misbehave to a spectacular degree, I have my job of litigating labor and employment cases.
Whoa, slow your roll. Tom and I are the same age and I am NOT NEARING MIDDLE AGE!
But he does need new management. His PR is for shit.
@theHord Agreed, but when us regular folk f-ck up we don’t go about afterwards saying to people “damn I need better management!” I think all of us are our own managers, don’t go blaming someone else for your mistakes.
@lightpurple LOL, good for you man!
@M.A.F. Sorry, I’m 30 myself, it’s just that Hiddleston looks 40 to me!
Lots of adult people have managers, though, no matter what field they’re in, and it’s the managers’ jobs to give us shite. My literary agent (who has made VERY little money off me, lemme tell you) thinks I’m an asshole right now because I won’t take a certain element out of the new novel she’s tryng to sell for me — an element that makes it far less commercial but in my opinion preserves its literary integrity. I know that’s her job. So she yells at me like I’m a horrible person. And that’s okay. I sort of AM a horrible person in some ways. Her selling-ego is just tangling with my literary hubris. We both know that. But management directives aren’t always right, because they are so often commercially-based. Somewhere in there, we all need to find our own way. Maybe Tom is being guided by the promotional instincts of his management and isn’t old enough to NOT listen to that stuff. I have a pair of French boots older than Tom, so I think that’s possible.
But Is this really about management telling us how to comport ourselves, or is it honestly just about our boundless, disgusting desire for a little moment in the sun now and then? And isn’t it maybe also about a guy who isn’t really a player by nature and is trying to keep up with his newfound fame by impressing his public with girlfriends (TayTay) and things like aid workers binge-watching his made-for-TV movie?
It was embarrassing, yeah, what he did. But he was terrific in TNM and although I wouldn’t go OUT with him (okay, nor would he go out with the over-ripened likes of me), I still find reason to admire his acting chops, his cuteness, and his long-ass legs. So I’m giving him a pass.
Unless he takes up with Swifty again. Then I’m done.
They need to warn him against engaging TMZ cameras standing outside a nightclub. They are not braving the rain for a vanilla and cookies moment. They are there to catch you drunk, high, falling over, fighting leaving with a girl or better yet leaving with a guy or looking stupid. But like A. Key who commented above me, I think he knows this but cant help lighting up when a mic is thrust in his face. He is the male Elsa Pataky of five years ago.
I also think it’s a manners thing-he truly doesn’t want to be rude.
If you watch the TMZ video, there’s a woman off screen telling him “Tom, that’s enough”, i.e. STOP TALKING and he doesn’t listen. So…maybe he needs someone to physically carry him offstage/away from the cameras when he’s waffling.
He does need that. I have seen a clip ofhis lookalike publicist literallypulling and tugging him to get somewhere while Tom was cheerfully chatting and behaving like a toddler lost in a toy store.
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Man, it’s crazy how quickly he has destroyed his image. Now was his chance to recover from the T.Swift Fauxmance….
For a trained actor to give such inelegant speeches is quite sad – pretending and repeating words is what they do for a living. I think when the time came he ad-libbed his preprepared speech and messed up but as Kaiser says its not the first time he’s done this.
I can see now why Taylor dumped him – his attention seeking fameho ways are so bad they even made her cringe. And thats saying something.
But he did apologise – I’ll give him that.
Digital, we don’t know who dumped who, it may have been a mutual agreement or Tom tried to exit from the arrangement when he saw the bad press he was getting.
See I dunno … He seems like the kind of person who’d write out his acceptance speech well in advance, memorize it, and rehearse it in the mirror for days (all while imaging the rapturous applause of the audience)
Re: Taylor, even Lainey was saying his speech proves that, if anything, he’s an even bigger famewhore than her! They really were perfect for each other …
@julp he would have if he new he was gonna win. I mean come on, even though I am happy for him, I didn’t think he was gonna win as the other guy was winning everywhere.And TH was surprised too and that’s why he stuttered in his speach. If he knew things would have been different
While I do agree that he’s thirsty, I think Lainey is reacting more to his (sometimes really annoying) fans. To be honest, I’ve disliked celebrities/sports teams based on their fandoms, too, so I see where she’s coming from.
I don’t think Swift is a famehussy, though. It’s just that (IMO) she’s not talented enough to survive in the business based on her music alone, so she has to rely on PR/image to keep her career going strong.
I’m going to come off as one of those Tom-stans that everyone loves to hate, but Lainey is hardly a paragon of unbiased journalism. She’s been mocking Tom for years, long before this summer. I don’t expect her to fawn all over him, but even on the rare occasion when she pays him a compliment she still twists it into an insult. On the other hand, Taylor usually gets a free pass, or even an ovation for doing things that others in the media give her the side-eye for. With Lainey, Taylor’s faults become virtues.
Jetlagged, Lainey is a known Taylor stan, there’s suggestions she’s has links with TS pr.
@becky Lol what??? Lainey has criticized Taylor swift before, though she refrains from sexism. She isn’t a TOM fan but she doesn’t have to be. There is no suggestion that she’s affiliated with swift’s PR! Where are you getting that?
@LP, I’ve heard that particular rumor too, but didn’t mention it because I have nothing that confirms it. It’s been suggested that some of the big-time gossip writers (Lainey and Perez were mentioned specifically) got special access during the 1989 promotion blitz in the hopes they would speak well of the music, the tour and Taylor in general. I saw it mentioned on a few Taylor fan sites, not from someone with an ax to grind.
Lainey is allowed her opinions, and I even agree with some of them where Taylor is concerned, but a neutral party she is not. A lot of entertainment writers play ball with celebs and their PR to get exclusive info or access – it probably happens more than we realize.
I’m going to have to disagree. While the speech may have been inelegant, like he says, it’s in no way comparable to the ten year career Taylor has had pushing herself in the spotlight. She literally spent every day for a year strolling from her apartment to her car, to the gym, back to her apartment. All in fancy outfits. Let’s be real. They were a match made in camera loving hell.
Maybe he just tried to circle back around and tie it into the awards ceremony. No matter, it shouldn’t ruin his fun and enjoyment for having won it.
Should he even have won it though? I feel like his ridiculous speech has over shadowed the fact that he didnt deserve that award. And I think he knew he didnt deserve it either which is why he arrived unprepared to give a speech.
The HFP loves their rep as rouge contrarians and after talking to Sixer yesterday I have a better feel for why they chose The Night Manager.
The speech was terrible and he needs to sit down. The fact that he issued an apology is further fact that he just can’t stop himself. I’m kind of embarrassed for him because he apparently can’t help himself.
… and I’m sure that if he didn’t apologize, that could only mean he’s an arrogant ass who actually thought he was right. Damned if you do-
His apology feels like every celeb apology – more an excuse than an actual apology.
I’m sick of these attention seekers thinking the world revolves around them all the time.
I don’t understand, what’s wrong with his apology? He apologised for his rambling (and he explained it, which I think is a correct way). He did not apologise for mentioning the charities because he believes in his message. So he mentioned them again. And he did not blame it on anybody but his own faults.
What else would he have to do?
I am still surprised he even apologised, he really didn’t need to, he did nothing wrong.
People don’t mock him for his rambling but for being self-centred.
He didn’t adress this part.
I’ve seen him being mocked for his rambling, for even having the nerve to talk there about charities. And I am failing to see how being self centered (in this way) when receiving an award for your own work is such a bad thing. He was talking about how proud he was that the show he got an award for was bringing some relief to the aid workers, especially since the contents link. It was just a poorly phrased anecdote.
The speech was (admittedly) wrong, now the apology is wrong as well. At least there’s consistency.
@freebunny and then people would drag him all the same, for making the apology all about himself.
*sigh*
Good lord, it’s not a difficult argument to discern.
The point being made is that speech and apology both committed the same sin. The sin being, centring yourself in something that is supposed to be about somebody else.
Agree or disagree with the point, but it’s abundantly clear what it is.
The “sin” of making a self centred speech is one thing, but surely an apology should be all about yourself, you can hardly make one on someone else’s behalf.
He is getting dragged rightly or wrongly over his acceptance speech, so he apologised for his own behaviour. What’s supposed to say ‘I dedicate this apology to Dickie Attenborough for his Ghandi car crash speech and for giving the World the term Luvvies’
I was only joking further down the thread when I said he needs to apologise for his apology.
Its getting a bit silly now, maybe he should get himself a hair shirt in the sales.
I said it all wrong and can’t be arsed (because I’m on a mission to say arse as much as possible today) to rephrase it so it reads like wot I meant. Sorry!
The speech was about how HE was the shining light that brightened the day of the hard working humanitaries in the “hell” that is South Sudan. The apology was that that was “inelegant”and the he was nervous so he’s sorry that HIS nerves got the best of HIM.
In other words, I don’t think he gets the point at all. First it was a story about how selfless people in war zones watch HIM and how HE makes their lives better, and now it’s sorry I should have put it differently. It’s not sorry, I’m an ass and the world doesn’t revolve around me and no one cares what humanitarians in war zones actually watch in their time off, but we care what they actually do and why they’re there. HE and HIS work are not important in the context of UNICEF.
He is irrelevant and insiginificant when it comes to people who work in South Sudan. He is not one of them no matter how many times he visits and his work does not contribute to anything important, let alone humanitarian work. His TV shows in no way help humanitarians do their job, Jesus Lord, what an ego to even believe that in the first place.
That basically is what I find wrong with his speech and with his half-arsed apology.
A.Key – Thank you for explaining, I finally understand where the problem seems to be.
I must say I pulled other points from his speech (less “me”, more “them”). I took it as if he’s saying (awkwardly) that these people who do a really tough job need a break once in a while in this is one way they do it, and that he was honored and humbled that TNM was a part of this process. So he dedicated the award to them (because of all the viewers and FPA, the praise of the aid workers meant the most to him). To make that point, he had to tell the whole story, and he told it badly.
And his apology also reads like he meant it the way I understood his speech in the first place.
I think this was discussed on the previous thread, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the fb post was done on the advice of his US team. His UK pr’s mo is usually to ignore.
They’re smart..after the show the only lasting impact was made by Meryl Streep..and maybe how good B Pitt looked. To keep ‘explaining’ is to keep it alive. Move on.
I’ll just repeat my alternative apology from yesterday:
“Well, I dicked that up didn’t I?! Sorry and THANKS FOR THE AWARD. Please love MSF and UNICEF more than me. They’re worth it.”
It’s just an excuse to say interrobang two days running. I love that word.
Why aren’t you famous?? The people who actually get famous all turn out to be dicks….
I just honestly think if you slip up and act like a twit, you should get in there and mock yourself before anybody else does. I live by this rule. Which is because I act like a twit often.
Lol being famous is not everything. And if it was just for bone headed people, I would have earned millions by now 😂😂😂
And I will repeat my search for the Bronze Medalist in the Vince Vaughn Stinkface Competition. Of course, Meryl has the Gold because Vince’s face looked like the stink was about to explode right his skin through during that; and Tom has secured the Silver. But who gets the Bronze.
LP, so I guess it’s obvious that Vaughan is card carrying Repub?
I haven’t watched any videos except LEGS. Even Meryl. But I’d appreciate any stinkface gifs going.
@Becky, he claims to be “libertarian” but he has expressed his views in some interviews – they’re quite similar to those of Mel Gibson. Extreme right-wing.
Here’s a link to the picture of Mel and Vince during Meryl’s speech. http://static01.mediaite.com/med/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/vince-vaughn-mel-gibson-650×488.jpeg
Vince is trying to look fierce and scary! Ha!
Sixer, I hope you watched Viola Davis’ speech… it too was EPIC. Hugh Laurie and Ryan Gosling’s were good too.
Poor T-Hiddy. It was a big enough deal that he actually felt it necessary to address on FB. I didn’t watch the pap video up above, but I do feel bad for him that he had it suddenly thrown into his face on camera. That moment of realization should be had in private, with a trusted adviser nearby. It’s one thing to bring up Swifty — a mountain of bad decisions one after another piled up on each other for months — it’s another to have something that shame-inducing thrown at ya suddenly.
@Sixer, yes, I’m sure Meryl was just trembling in her stilettos.
This is how I think it went down…
Luke: “Tom you twat. Why are we here again after the MTV awards? What did I tell you?”
Tom: “sorry Luke. I just really wanted people to know how hard working these humanitarians are and that I like them and they like me and we all just want to make the world a better place and I’ve lost that “I ❤️ TS t-shirt even though I’ve now painted a picture of Tony Starke on it and…”
Luke: “Tom”
Tom: “nobody remembers when I entranced ducks with poetry and of course the pressure of being Loki again and being more popular than Thor, and by the way Hemmo looked great didn’t he! Anyway I wanted my, I mean our work on The Night Manager to be acknowledged because it ties in with these charities…”
Luke: “Tom”
Tom: “and by the way did I mention that I lost one of my sneakers in South Sudan when I was there last? I must have spent hours looking for it and what do you know, a Baboon had run off with it! I, I mean we laughed like drains at that one I, I mean we can can tell you!”
Luke: “TOM”
Tom: “Oh, I’ve done it again, haven’t I? Sorry…”
Seriously Tom, I love your work!
Bwahaha priceless!
Ha Ha Secret…
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Does everybody know Mr Bean? Should we stop calling him LEGS and start calling him Tom Bean?
I like Tom Bean. That’s his new name. Thanks, Squirrel!
We could split the difference and call him LEGume!
Baddum tish!
*tips hat*
Bravo Squirrel 👏
LEGume 😂😂😂😂😂
Omg I am dying!
Ok. LEGume it is.
Hahaha!
Tom LEGume works for me.
I know this is meant as a joke, but he would be ripped apart if he actually used this tone. It sounds sarcastic and if people are already tearing you apart, being sarcastic about it is the worst way to go.
Tom LEGS Bean
His apology like his speech are who he is.
He wants to be loved, makes grand discourses and gonna apology the second people express some grunts. He’s too thin skinned and craves people/peers approval.
To be honest I think he is not thinskinned at all, but surely naive.
Eh, at least he did apologise. That’s more than some people are capable of doing.
OH Honey Please stop Talking.. I Beg Of You! 🙄🙄🙄🙄
Even the apology is extra.
I’m definitely looking at the Taylor Swift romance in a new light…and I’m sure many others are as well, so good news for her!
Nah, they were perfect for each other.
@Talie
Errr…
No, not really 🙂
Oh come on, it can happen. Sure, it was bad but it’s not necessary to drag this out more than it should.
@serena not every body has a common sense like you smh
I don’t think the problem was that it was “inelegantly expressed”, it was more the overall idea of the whole thing. And I wouldn’t say an apology is necessary, just a little self awareness now and then.
Honest question, do these celebrities actually contribute something productive to these UN sponsored causes? They take photos, say few words which gets overly clapped and stuff. For most of them it is an ego stroking thing with few exceptions (Angelina Jolie, Audrey Hepburn). Leonardo DiCaprio, who gets honored for his “environmental causes” makes me laugh.
If the organizations think the individual is being too self-serving, they cut them loose. Sometimes right in the middle of whatever they are doing. A close friend works for an aid organization in Haiti and one actress was being extremely difficult and making everything about her. He got a call while they were touring someplace that he was to lead her back to the car immediately, send her back to wherever she was staying and somebody there told her they were done with her.
The idea is to raise profile, awareness and I would assume more donations would be the end result.
E.g. Ewan McGregor also works with UNICEF on campaigns.
It’s about raising awareness and as silly as t sounds, it works.
For example, we all know there’s an issue with the environment (OK, some are flat out denying it, but DiCaprio’s message isn’t meant for them anyway). Most people, if they are not specifically interested, will not watch a YouTube video titled “ice melting”. But Leo’s fans will check a video called “DiCaprio speaks about ice melting”. And hearing from him there and then will make them think about it and perhaps donate. The message comes through.
The organizations keep doing it, so I guess it does.
There are several fine lines usually in play in the Celeb sponsoring or highlighting a Cause with official standing from the charity/NGO/supranational organisation concerned.
An obvious one is a belief that the Celeb is involved predominantly for belief in the Cause and NOT predominantly to raise their own profile.
Yet another is that the Celeb does not cross the line as setting themselves up as the primary expert in the field of the Cause but, rather, acknowledges that they are there as awareness raising conduits to the public and that they give due credit to those experts in the field actually doing the work (expertly – with proper training and professional qualifications).
I thought TH’s speech to be a little too self-serving and “inelegant”, however, to cut him some slack, I believe in his sincere belief in the Cause and he hasn’t set himself up as the primary expert; so neither of the two lines I have mentioned – there are others – have been crossed by him.
There are others who are guilty of crossing those lines in quite cavalier fashion and things become difficult.
Look up Alex Perry “George Clooney, South Sudan, and How the World’s Newest Nation Imploded” for Newsweek (I can’t find a clickable link). Long read but very good on Celebutarianism – NB: not just Clooney but in general.
I’m starting to feel sorry for the poor sod, people really seem to hate him now.
I wonder why ? Apart from a ham fisted summer fling, and a touch of verbal diarrhoea in front of a camera he really is quite harmless. He has obviously been told that the Gods of social media have been offended and must be appeased. I would imagine if he hadn’t apologised he’d be getting shade for that too.
I fully admit I enjoyed the summer of Tay and the ensuing piss takes, but he is not the worst most self serving celeb, by a long shot. I will always mock him for his paper knickers and water slide shananigans but I can’t find it in me to mock him for raising the profile of Unicef, especially as he has been out and seen first hand the terrible conditions people are living in.
You may be right but it’s NO FUN right. 😛
Lots of people do kind and philanthropic things, and they love letting people know about it.
Even if their efforts are genuine or self serving, I don’t care if they are doing something charitable.
Wearing Gucci slippers and voguing with Afghan hounds is fair game though, and must always be laughed at.
I forgot the jewelled slippers! Ack. I do think he means well but all limousine liberals/champagne socialists should be sensible enough to avoid white saviour tropes. He’s not stupid, you know? So I’m not annoyed with him or anything – in fact, I’m happy because his twittishness makes me laugh – but I don’t feel sorry for him either. Is that fair enough?
oh please, since when did the institution like UNICEF need a B list star to raise their profile. I only noticed him because of swift. He is thirsty and harmless, nothing more nothing less.
UNICEF, Medicin Sans Frontier, Save the Children, Water aid, the Red Cross…They are all chasing after the same ever decreasing pot from the Charity giving public…
Maybe they have a high profile, but if they don’t need a B lister to raise it, it begs the question, why did they ask him to be an ambassador.
The UN and the other organisations were really happy that he mentioned them and thanked him right away. Especially the UN were apparently watching and tweeting.
Shelly, I think the main criticisms are his try hard and lack of awareness (the latter particularly appears to be his upbringing and education). In this instance I think he’s been unfairly criticised.
CB regulars were pointing out this behaviour on threads going back to 2013.
Becky I will piss take on him mercilessly for his thirsty, try hard ways…But lets be honest I’d be a little bit sad if he shut himself away and never did another interview or cringey photo op again.
He is the gift that keeps on giving, but his little ferret face hitting the floor, when the TMZ reporter gives him the bad news, well it you’d need a heart of stone not to feel some sympathy or to laugh, to paraphrase Oscar Wilde.
It’s not about being “harmful” or “harmless” with these things, unfortunately. Public consciousness is messed up beyond belief. Case in point: everyone on social media is celebrating Christian Slater over this for giving a “snarky look”. He’s been charged with domestic violence and has done a LOT of shady stuff. And no one is bothered by the fact that the Gokden Globes was letting Mad Mel make *another* comeback despite the fact that he’s basically the epitome of horrible. These are harmful people, but they’re not the ones targeted. Meanwhile, LEGS is being crushed and Anne Hathaway was buried under public scorn for being annoying a few years ago. It’s not about what you do, it’s about how you do it. Robin Thicke did genuinely fucked up shit, but was celebrated— up until he started getting annoying and creepy with his “Paula” album. Or Tom Cruise, who was part of that cult, and had separated his children from their mother, but the major public outcry against him and $cientology didn’t get into full swing until “couchgate.”
It’s really messed up. I think we could have fun taking the piss out of people who do the harmful stuff, but for the risk of accidentally belittling the very real harm they actually do. Like, making too many Mel Gibson jokes might belittle anti-semitism, racism, and domestic violence, for instance. So instead we mock the people who are “extra” but harmless. It’s this weird issue with how we perceive celebrities. Tom Hiddleston may “never recover” from the “I <3 TS" shirt. But Bill Murray is adored.
So he’s a target because he’s harmless while Gibson is not because he’s terrible? What kind of thinking is that? Well, Hiddleston ended up really hurt over this silly minor business (showed on the TMZ video). Does him being miserable make people happy? It looks that way.
He’s not a target. He just gets snarked and laughed at because he’s a twit who makes it easy. These are such big holes he falls in that they might as well have flashing neon lights pointing to them. He won’t get laughed at if he doesn’t do anything laughable. Simples.
@Crox
Did you read my comment entirely? Because that isn’t what I said at all. Like, not even a little. I said relative “harmlessness” is irrelevant, as long as you’re not deemed “annoying” about it. Like, I purposely used Tom Cruise and Robin Thicke as examples of men who were known to not be harmless, but only had their careers suffer when they got “annoying”. Like, I literally did that for the express purpose of making that point. Tom Cruise stopped jumping on couches and people are going to see his movies again despite still being a Scientologist, because he stopped being “extra”. People pulled the plug on Robin Thicke because of how creepy and annoying he came off. Both of those men are awful, but that didn’t matter to anyone until they got irritating about it.
. I never once said that people get celebrated for being horrible or punished for not being horrible. Anywhere. I said there were skewed public perspectives on various famous people. Which is hardly a controversial statement. The only statement I really made was that people get penalized for annoying people, regardless of what crimes they have or have not committed.
I’m not sure how I could have been more clear about this.
Sixer, I would argue that “He just gets snarked and laughed at because he’s a twit who makes it easy.” is just another way of saying he’s a target. 😉
For example he’s been mocked over things I wouldn’t even notice if it wasn’t for the uproar on social media and/or gossip sites. Those things were not noticeable to me. And yet some people seem to find something wrong with everything he does. Which in my eyes means he’s a deliberate target.
@Sixer Oh, I agree. I was just pretty much explaining to Becky my perspective as to why Tom being a twit but harmless gets so much flack while Christian Slater (domestic abuser) gets celebrated for looking down his nose at LEGS. I agree that Tom is a twit and is laughable and he makes it easy. I just wish it was a little less easy to in perspective of people like Gibson and Slater in the audience.
WendyNerd, I know what you meant, it was not an attack on you, because I agree with you completely and that’s what makes me sad. I was just shortening it up by saying that it’s twisted that f.e. Cruise gets a pass for doing something horrible while he’s being punched for doing something harmless.
Hiddleston can be a doofus but (so far) he’s always been harmless, and yet I saw today people gloating on social media over his TMZ video. Because apparently nothing is funnier than being told bad news to your face and seeing your spirit drop.
Shelly, here’s hoping he doesn’t hide himself away, it was just a misstep that’s all. His heart is obvs in the right place.
I think he’s still getting flack for the summer of stunts, and also he just comes across as too try hard.
Wendy, I agree with you it’s a ridiculous double standard. While Gibson, Casey Affeck and Cruise aren’t being mocked in the same way (Gibson has been pretty much shunned by most of HW though is being let back in). I also forgot about the Christian Slater DV allegations, people have a short memory.
The Anne Hathaway downfall bothers me more than this, tbh. WTH did that woman ever do? (it’s rhetorical, I don’t care. I’m sure whatever she “did”, was ridiculously pointless)
@Crox “Because apparently nothing is funnier than being told bad news to your face and seeing your spirit drop.” Just the internet going on its merry, sociopathic way, I guess.
@sixer
Is that what you teach your children- it’s ok to laugh at someone because he makes it easy? Because he makes laughable things? And who decides what is laughable and what is not?
Is the same logic applied to internet bullies, or bullies in general, in high schools (or wherever for that matter)- victims shouldn’t do things they can be bullied for and then the bullying will stop? Or is laughing at someone for every stupid thing he does better than classic bullying and hence totally acceptable?
HAAAAAAAAAAAA! Yes. The main message you should take from an actor giving a narcissistic speech and being laughed at for it, is that I or anyone else that laughs are encouraging bullying in children.
Good lord, fruitloops. The man made a tit of himself. People laughed. Including me. I very much doubt this means that a horde of bullying Sixlets are about to crash civilisation as we know it, my lovely. But it is a funny thought, so I thank for you that!
Laughing. At. LEGume. Does. Not. Constitute. Bullying.
No, I didn’t say that it did, I actually asked why was it more acceptable to laugh at someone than bully him, just because it’s not bullying and if the same logic for laughing at was being applied to bullying.
Because what you find funny, someone else doesn’t and it hurts his feelings, or harmless joking and laughing at can turn into laughing at everything someone does and blowing things out of proportion (which is this case, IMO). So this whole line of thinking that someone will not be laughed at when he stops doing laughable things is, in my opinion, just wrong, because it’s not taking into consideration the difference between things that are harmlessly laughable and just hurtful and mocking, other person’s feelings etc.
I do understand you though, because I read comments here often, and I know you’re just being funny most of the time, it’s just that this statement sounded general and insensitive.
I hate to tell you this, fruitloops, because you’re right – almost all of the time I’m messing about because saying funny things on a gossip website is a fun pastime – but I actually really genuinely truly don’t care if LEGume has hurt feelings over this. Not one teensy weensy bit of sympathy. Nada.
It was his bad. He isn’t the private kind of actor that does his job and then goes away until the next job. He is the kind of actor that courts public attention by showing up to as many industry gigs as possible and by leveraging social media and all the rest of it.
HE made the choice to put himself out there in this way. Some do, some don’t. When he gets it right, he gets universal adoration and a gazillion worshipful tumblrs. When he gets it wrong, he gets mocked. HE chose it this way, not me or anybody else who has either made the adoring tumblr or mocked him. He can’t have all the good bits but none of the bad bits because you like him.
But now all my fun is being ruined by actual serious talk. So that’s me over and out.
And there goes the fun… *sigh*.
Please, no one “hates” him. They are just tired or over him. And regarding UNICEF, are you serious? They can drop him and a whole bunch of people, and replace them with new celebrities to spread the word. They are not some desperate organization. Great that he wants to help but you have the power dynamic wrong. He clearly messed up because that ridiculous story didn’t bring attention to the organization, but to himself, exactly the opposite of what these organizations want. His response was various PR people trying to salvage things.
The NPR article regarding this should be read by every celebrity even thinking about charitable work.
Just watched it for the first time. I didnt think it was as bad as everyone made it out to be.
Naomie reaction though is classic.
It was a terrible, self-absorbed, ill-advised speech (Christian Slater’s and Naomie Harris’ reactions cracked me up) but I could see how it could all go wrong in the moment if he wasn’t prepared- and nobody was expecting him to win right? It’s not a bad apology. The last year has really made everyone look at him so differently now, ha.
The Hollywood crowd
uppety with Hiddlestone for being mawkish
and humblebraggy? The same Hollywood set
of course who are the masters of understated
humility, drug free propiety and low key
poise. It is a world whose very foundations
stones are built on vanity, the superficial, the
visual and an ethos of Me, Me, Me. Frankly, I
find the preachy, self righteous tone of some
of those attacking Hiddlestone even more
insidious. The way the cameras are pointing at
the famous audience for their reaction is the
perfect metaphor.
His peers said nothing, it’s twitter which mocked him.
@freebunny but some of them acted like it. And good thing I don’t pay attention to twitterlings. That place is scary like tumblr.
@mklip They were not impressed by his speech.
They were not booing him or laughing at him.
This idiocy started on TWITTER. If you look at immediate accounts of his win, they mention nothing about the speech being offensive. Then the Twitter slams became entertainment news, everyone saying he was slammed on social media. This was not a giant uprising within the entertainment community. Contrast this with support for Meryl, which was universal. However, we now live and die by social media. I would love to hear [I know we won’t ] from acerbic Hugh Laurie. You can just imagine!!
Also, this trend of trying to see into peoples’ hearts and souls by their facial expressions at awards shows is nonsense[except for a joke] My guess is not many people in that audience knew Tom and were surprised that he beat Vance.
Third Ginger, I don’t know if you’ve seen Hugh’s epic photobomb from the red carpet at the awards? He was walking past the actress from Outlander (don’t know her name).
Josh Malina is a peer.
Christian Slater has done some pretty shady things in the past too…Anyway maybe his snark face was constipation, or being a bad loser as Mr Robot didn’t do too well.
I’m still baffled that TNM did so well though, but I suppose its all about opinions. I deleted the O.J. series after one episode, but loved The Night of, John Turturro and that cat…perfection.
You make a good point, except it’s not the Hollywood crowd doing the attacking. It’s social media. Has there been one major celebrity who was there who has said anything?
The Hollywood crowd
It wasn’t his peers that made fun of him it was twitter and social media. And anyway what is the hollywood crowd? Half of the actors at the Globe were english or australian. Like meryl streep said Hollywood is just a bunch of people from somewhere else.
I honestly feel bad for him. He’s thirsty and embarrassing, but also painfully earnest and genuine. He can’t seem to control himself when he gets some attention, but he truly seems to have nothing but good intentions.
Agreed, especially since he’s one of the rare genuinely nice people in the industry. It seems like being thirsty is the worst thing a celebrity could be, even over, oh, let’s say, sexually harassing women (*cough* allegedly Casey Affleck *cough*).
It’s a storm in a tea cup. Probably Earl Grey in a china teacup since it’s Hiddles, but really. I couldn’t get too outraged about him behaving like a bit of an eejit over Taylor (bloke boffs blonde beanpole) , and this is a bit of a damp squib. It’s a shame he seems to have made a bad impression, but I’m sure he’ll get over it and some of us will always love him. And it hasn’t done any harm to the charities so that’s a good thing too.
Was his speech that bad? He said he was proud that he was able to provide some entertainment and relief to those working under the most difficult of conditions. How is that a bad thing? People are so critical these days. I have seen MUCH worse in terms of acceptance speeches. I think it was a dull night at the Globes and this has been blown all out of proportion.
I’ll copy this from the other thread, ‘cos it’s more appropriate here:
I think the idea of saying that art or entertainment is valuable to people working in challenging circumstances is fine, at least in the abstract. That may have been the exalted point he was trying to get across – I’m being charitable here, mind.
Trying to do that by connecting it to a rambling story about his personal experience on a charity expedition and then capping it off by basically saying he was proud they liked his TV show was pretty gauche and tasteless however. I thought it was almost like he was trying to validate the ‘worthiness’ of his win with the expectation that the celebrity audience would join in with him (“hey, acting and TV shows are so *important* aren’t they everyone?” etc.). Then he’s all surprised that it fell flat. smh
I reckon he was nervous though. And it may have been a genuine, at least partial, explanation for why it went belly up. ‘Twas a well written and decent apology whatever it’s motivation.
@mostly Meghan +10
@kate everybody is thirsty in HW. He is just not good at predenting/hiding it.
He is a trained actor, not a trained PR person. Being an adult doesn’t automatically mean you can navigate your image successfully. That’s why as adults, we still undertake courses such as body language, speech, grooming etc. to appear professional or improve our professional brand. He may be able to read lines but the lines need to be vetted properly and this is where I think he needed the management. I disagree he doesn’t need PR management. PR can be overrated at times but not this time. And most times, PR makes you in Hollywood. I’ll cut him some slack for the speech but he really needs help.
he can’t even contain himself from chatting even with paparazzi, his attention wh*rish ways has no limits, even his PR people begs him to stop talking and just get the f*ck out of there
I think he didn’t do a bad job and he really was nervous. I completely get how what you really want to say doesn’t come out because you are nervous…especially in front of your peers, idols, and millions of people watching.
Yes, I’m sure he was nervous too so he has my empathy. That shouldn’t stop him from getting his image fixed.
hiddles…. lay low…. go do a play and theatre work in england, or australia … date a theatre chick or production designer….. move to new york canada or england, or ireland low key….. just lay low
the thirst and its stench is too strong to really have a good 2017, for him.
He lives in England.
well then he should stay there…. and lay low….
He’s been laying low and living quietly in London, going out for coffee, bicycling to the theatre, taking the tube, walking on Hampstead Heath and going for runs. If he is dating anyone, nobody knows her name. He seems to have been working on a documentary about South Sudan. He obviously did not expect to win and sort of fumbled his acceptance speech (I actually had no problem with it myself, but people are very quick to jump on Social Media these days). He is going to need to do PR for SI in the next few months. So he won’t be able to lay low then.
Plus, if you actually check his SM, all his posts are about his work, or charity. Plus, he seldom posts at all. How is maintaining SM of such sorts, gets you branded as “thirsty”? What to say of the celebs that share everything and their dogs there, then? Not that posting a picture of your own butt in jest irks me in any way, either. I mean, it’s not MY butt. Why does actors (or better yet, *certain* actors), showing up, revolts so many, to this extent? Exception made to last summer, “laying low”, is what Tom does!
Sure, he made an off speech… while accepting an award handed to him? How is this “thirsty”? Don’t people make speeches where they sometimes detour out of the regular “I want to thank my director and my mom”?…
He will obviously never work again and die alone surrounded by descendants of Taylor Swift’s cats. [Just thought I would try the “Tom is doomed” hyperbole.
That’s extreme. And Tom’s worst enemy is Tom.
You do know it was joke?
Lol 3rd Ginge, Tom will also contract leprosy from wearing a second hand Gorilla suit, and no one will want to sit with him at the next awards bash, because he stinks of wee.
I see what you did there, Third Ginger!
@SilverUnicorn, yes, it is extreme but Third Ginger is joking. On almost every Tom thread, including yesterday’s, there are those who insist that whatever he has just done will be the death knell for his career. I’ve been seeing that here now for over three years. People usually respond to it by pointing out that something positive actually just happened (he just received an award for his work) and that he has jobs lined up or he’s in the process of doing some project and he hasn’t actually killed anyone or anything equally dire, and the “his career is over!” People will reply with a list of all the horrible things he has done, none of which even compare to, say Shia LeBoeuf or Rob Lowe, and how he’s a nobody so he can’t expect the slack the Shias of the world get, followed by a whine about how they aren’t allowed to criticize Tom, even though they do so on every Tom thread.
Third Ginger is just continuing the game.
His career won’t be over.
He’s making a career out of being a reasonably likeable doofus, that’s why. It’s his niche. 😀
He needs to apologise for his apology..!!!
This hyperbole could run and run..!!!
@Bonzo and Sixer, Lilac and MI6
Just explain me why he apologized? I have no idea why the eff he apologized. Did he mention that he was scratching his bum against a holy stone and was laughing about his dumb behaviour? No. Did he pee in his pants on stage? No. Threw up? No. Did he lose a condom? Did he mention Fassbenders best friend on stage while accepting his own award? Why did he apologize? No need for that. Yes, his speech was not really great but his intention wasn’t bad. Contrary to Kaiser, I do think that the guy was nervous as hell. I am not a fan anymore but give the man a break. It’s not as if he smacked the shit out of someone. Hiddiot, enjoy your win. Congrats from me. Next time just say thank you and leave the stage. You are a Brit, people in HW do not like the fact that Brits are winning it seems. I would take a Hiddiot over Chris Pratt all the time.
Nonsense. I live in UK, so not making a difference.
But here we do like to take the peeve out of people like Tom or Cumberbatch, he apologised after a few press outlets ridiculised his speech.
He should have gotten used to that after Taylor Swift, I guess…. not!
He apologized because he learned people had problems with what he said and because he is an adult and adults apologize. There are some who will just laugh at his bumbling; there are some who will carry on like he has done the worst thing in the world and he is the worst thing in the world; and there are many who have no idea who he is, what he has done, and will never care. Such is the world.
But why did people have problems with what he said? He didn’t perpetuate any negative stereotypes, didn’t belittle or dismiss anyone, didn’t even mix up the names of 2 award contenders (not that it was a huge deal, either, but when it’s sort of the whole point of the awards, it is bad when you mixed up the nominees)… I honestly don’t get what’s “offensive” about what he said. Inelegant, self-serving – ok, but in the age of Trump, how is this minor, irrelevant, harmless speech even a blip on anyone’s radar?
I don’t think that his apology was “adult”. I think it was PC. That kind of PC that is overdone and that we (the “liberals”) are mocked for, very occasionally – justly so.
What those two said.
Look. LEGume was the first to leverage social media to his advantage. This time, it’s worked to his disadvantage. Them’s the breaks.
Unlike other criticisms, this happened after a major PR event in which all of HW was watching. He felt it necessary to try and to patch his PR up a bit. That’s all.
It’ll be forgotten soon enough by most. Some of us have longer memories and will remind him from time to time, just for sh!ts & giggles. 😉
Hiddles is just like an excitable puppy, with no training. He chews the furniture and piddles on himself when he finds himself the center of attention.
Annoying, harmless and just needs a good whack on his nose with Luke’s shoe. 🙂
Yes, for all the mickey-taking he receives, he really is harmless. Luke has been with Tommy long enough to see the potential PR train wreck and steer the piddling puppy clear of it.
Tommy should be self-aware enough not to trust his own judgement when given a huge, international platform like the Globes. He’s just too eager to impress the HW folks he wants to get in tight with.
Like i said yesterday, he is the male Lena Dunham. With this I am so sorry post, even more so 🙂
Oh, come on, not even close.
Most of his speech wasn’t that bad. It’s when I believe he said that people were binge-watching his show while SHELLING was going on that seemed to make his overall speech sound strange. I suspect that’s why Christian Slater had that look on his face — I think he was probably trying to understand how anyone had the ability to watch tv while they were being shelled. I know I didn’t get it…
Look, he did a big belly flop in TV when he thought he was redeeming himself (see his version Hello Darkness in the TMZ). You don’t have to commit a crime to be a name dropping self centered fool. Now many of you didn’t see the problem, but looking at how cold the room got for him, the industry got the message, and they are the ones who count, not some radom female on Tumblr who is obessed with him. Like them or not the industry holds the power to make or break you.
Furthermore, he is not legendary or respected in the industry like a Streep, Washington, Davis or Hanks to get away with shenanigans. But they are savvy enough not do something like this. But then they don’t attract deranged fans who question others people’s charitable contributions or act like the star is responsible for exposing the genal public to the “little known” issues facing Sudan.
Not Sudan, South Sudan.
And this, my dear, is why stars (among others) try to expose the general public to the little known issues which you put in quotations as if everybody knows about them. You can’t even tell the countries apart, meaning you know nothing about what happened there a few years ago, so I won’t exactly believe that you know what’s going on there now. A lot of the people mocking him on social media made the same mistake.
I can’t imagine having to stand up there and give a speech that millions will see. He must have been so nervous!
This message by a Mr. Wes Arscott, a Canadian veteran, under today’s Tom’s facebook post –
Mr Tom Hiddleston. Sir, I am a
retired Canadian soldier who has
been to some pretty dark places in
this world too. I served as a medic
and I appreciate what you had to say
about fixing the world’s broken
places. In my travels I have had the
privilege of meeting a few celebrities
and I would like to offer you what I
offered them. Service comes in
many forms. Please don’t think for
one second that what you do is any
less important than a soldier, or a
doctor. When people like me are
deployed or volunteering far away
from their homes and loved ones in
those dark places of the world you
spoke of, sometimes a film or other
entertainment is the only respite
one has from the reality that the
world can be a pretty ugly place
sometimes. What you do sir, allows
people like me to what they do. The
arts are important, and you sir are
an artist. Thank you.
also I wanna mention the South Sudan journalist who actually wrote that tom helped to raise awarness and he himself has been working for years yet still not much success to that level. Also UN, UNICEF thanked him for the speech. Opinions that actually matter.
@mklip
I like TH, in spite of his PR screw ups, but that sounds incredibly gushing and sycophantic in all honesty. If I like someone or appreciate them I try to steer clear of sounding like I’m buttering them up. Ugh.
Hiddleston did indeed have a valid point to make but he made it somewhat ineptly and patted himself on the back at the same time. Self-praise is no praise I was always taught.
And that is why I like Celebitchy – rare place where there is space for nuance! Like, I agree with the vet that Tom was lambasted unfairly, BUT I also agree with Uh-huh that this speech was a tad too much in the other direction: what actors do can be important, but I still think it does not compare to what doctors or teachers or other volunteers do there day in and day out – without having posh homes and fame to go back to in the end, too.
I’m glad that aid workers are appreciative. Truly, that is wonderful that they appreciate the shout-out. But the compliment needs to come from them, not Tom. It doesn’t really have the same feeling when one pats oneself on the back on live television.
I’ve never seen Tom Hiddleston in anything so I can’t say whether or not he’s a twit, but watching the video of the horriblely smarmy TMZ reporter made my skin crawl. What an absolute predatory way to play “Gotcha.” Creepily disingenuous to humiliate and snicker at a human being. Repulsive beyond words.
@uh-huh I have no problem to point out the faults of the person I like. But I have problem when twitterlings actually made mockery of something which actually didn’t deserve any. If the UN, UNICEF complained, I ‘d have understood but those twitterlings? they contribute nothing but 1st in the line to mock someone if somebody does so.
To me his speech didn’t surprise me at all, (it was his winning that surprised me) and didn’t feel like he was selft patting. The perceptions vary from from person to person I guess.
@mklip
Well it’s either hyperbole and gushing or bullying and abuse. I condone neither (I don’t regard polite criticism or a bit of mickey taking as abuse).
Twitter and SM are important to the extent that Hiddleston uses them to promote himself, his work and his charity connections. It’s good that UNICEF and presumably MSF are happy with the mentions, but then why wouldn’t they be anyway?
If a lot of people thought he made a boob, they thought he made a boob. I think he made a good call apologising – and then getting yet another mention in for the organisations he wants to promote, this time without the puffery about TNM.
He’s so extra, even the apology is extra. 😂
Ugh, I really loathe and despise everything TMZ. Much as Tom is an ass and really needs to rein himself in at times, that nasty goon’s only intent was to embarrass him on camera and spoil his evening.
That moronic goon is just off to tell Annie, he’s not her Daddy. And watch her face fall.
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Ah no but, as much as I enjoy Tom’s cack-handed (mis)adventures in extraland, that TMZ knob behaved like a soulless, heartless pos.
“Tom’s cack-handed (mis)adventures in extraland”
lol. Love it!
Shelly – he definitely wasn’t there to say You’re A Wonderful Thing, Baby.
Wait you mean Mr I heart Taylor Swift is thirsty for attention? I am shocked. He is a fame whore who will do anything to try to get A-list even comparing the work of humanitarians in the Sudan to a role in a movie.
Only… he didn’t made such a comparison?…
It’s south sudan. If you wanna criticize get your facts right.
It appears there’s no love lost with one of Tom’s exs, Susannah Fielding. She’s been liking tweets dragging his speech. They broke up like 5 yrs ago, bitter much?
Blimey. Whatever happened there you would have thought someone might have moved on after *5 years*. Miaow.
Exactly.
Fielding is probably bitter that he’s had more high-profile success than her. And I have a feeling she’s known all along what a smug, self-involved prat he can be. I always believed gossip that he cheated on her because what about Tom Hiddleston doesn’t scream ME ME ME…?
I’d still do him though.
I think his speech was self observed and tone deaf and shows that he has a fairly large ego but in the grand scheme of things it not that serious. Like come on, there are bigger problems in HW.
On the other hand as ridiculous as anything are his outraged fangirls who feel sorry for him because social media mocks him for 24 hrs. The funniest thing is they blame his publicist. The man is pushing 40 and they are infantilising him like he’s a teenage starlet or something. It was the same thing during the Taylor swift stunt. It was always this poor Luke guys fault. Seriously hiddles is his own man, he’s been around the block now and should know better. You can’t have it both ways. He can’t be the most intelligent, cultured, best educated actor ever ( according to his Fangirls) and in need of constant babysitting. I mean with all his fancy education he should be able to come up with a better speech without a team of publicists helping him out.
He only needs ‘babysitting’ to the extent that all celebrities do. They all have managers and advisers and different sorts of representation, which is fair enough.
But I do agree with you. He’s nearly 36 now; if his PR is a trainwreck it’s because he’s allowed it to be so. He could get better advice and better management if things weren’t working out very well, so why doesn’t he? He’s in control – or should be – it’s his career and his public image. It’s almost like he’s oblivious to how he’s sometimes coming across.
Agree, Uh-huh- My impression of him is that his ambition and need for applause is way bigger than his talent. He is, imo, a character actor, not a lead, and he could have a really nice career, doing interesting and rewarding work, if he lost this thirst for fame. He’s a reasonably good actor but he just doesn’t have the range, personality, temperament or x-factor that will propel him into the world that he plainly covets.
Agree also re his PR. They work for him and they can only advise. He’s responsible for who he is and how he’s viewed, not his PR.
@Guesto
Yes, I broadly agree actually.
Maybe his “team” are literally busting a gut for him in trying to get him where he wants to go – and the results of that are unfortunately the sort of thing we’ve seen over the last 6 months or so…
It’s a square peg in a round hole IMO. He’s bent his image out of shape rather disastrously (and embarrassingly too) just to get more media attention to try and climb the HW greasy pole. I honestly reckon he might keep going with those sort of tactics until he either gets to be a rather precarious A-lister or the whole thing blows up in his face.
I don’t think I’d sacrifice credibility, self-respect and his much touted ‘authenticity’ just to hang out with the HW elite but there we are.
We know that he put together a production company in London right before the Taymerica party. I assume he is going to use footage shot while in South Sudan in a documentary or film – I was going to say ‘short’ film, then I remembered. Maybe this experience will help him keep the Tom to a minimum while storytelling. I wonder if he is going to narrate.
He is making a documentary for UNICEF and is working with several guys who have made UNICEF documentaries in the past. He talked about it during interviews he did with the BBC several months ago.
Why does he always seek the approval of young fans? He’s better than this. He is a talented actor. I remember when Tom first gained attention as Loki and he was very accomodating to comic book nerds. I will always love him for that.
I really feel sorry for this guy. Such a fine actor but apparently quite lost in showbiz. This is exactly what happens when you’re desperately trying to please everybody. A lot of hit and miss moments. First you try to impress and later you try to apologize.
His stans are as extra as he is. Most of them appear to be middle aged women too.
Super extra. His crazy fans have no problems attacking Taylor Swift for being “attention whore” if she publicizes her charitable work yet they will bend over backwards trying to excuse and coddle Hiddlecringe for literally humble bragging about how “the people in South Sudan love me”.
agreed. Though there were many who defended taylor to the end who were tom’s stans. And not all of his stans are middles aged. His stans ranges from 5-90, both gender.
“the people in South Sudan love me” > source for this quote?
Actually he has a lot of very young women fans as well as older, mature women (over 35). Overall, my take is that the younger fans are the ones that seem to be “extra”.
@Jess – Most people attacked Taylor Swift because they don’t like her for several competing reasons. The “super-extra, crazy stans” I mostly see are TS haters that also happen to be or then became TH stans. Two separate groups that have been united in they’re disdain for one and adoration for the other.
There’s plenty of people that don’t like or care for T-Swift. After all she’s Ultra famous. If some of them are Hiddleston fans, that doesn’t make them stans or crazy. Imo both have crazy fans, but TS has many, many more of them as well as a lot of mega haters too.
So now people should apologize because they are nervous? Jesus give me a break. Those accusations over his speech were completely irrational
I really don’t get all the spite and venom towards Hiddles. Was the speech so bad? Could have been better, but it wasn’t so awful as for all the hate landslide. Do I think he was nervous? Of course. Winning a Golden Globe is not something that happens everyday, more so once in a lifetime. Even more veteran actors and used to these award shows ramble out of nerves, i.e. Isabelle Huppert on that same night. Probably after this, Tom will be more guarded. Fact is he’s been really low profile since the TS mess. Also he will be/look less thirsty, this GG will open some doors closed for him until now.
He’s turning into Anne Hathaway II.
Ok I was trying not to click play on that TMZ video but man I did and now I feel sorry for him. It’s like he doesn’t even realize what he’s doing or saying.
Yeah. Odd isn’t it?
It’s like he just wants to be liked and praised 24/7 – and when he finds that’s not what’s happening for whatever reason… he’s floored. And then presumably, it’s a case of what can he do next to fix it? Peculiar sort of PR strategy he’s got.
Eh, I can’t be down on him. His PR may be crap, he seems clueless and sheltered (and mega ambitious of course) but nevermind.
It wasn’t too long ago that I thought he had finally outgrown his need for attention and/or affection and finally seemed comfortable with his place in the world. Boy was I wrong. After this year I think it’s actually gotten worse. All performers have a look-at-me instinct (they’d be librarians or gardeners if they didn’t), but Tom just can’t seem to bring his into some sort of balance. It makes me a little sad, because I really do like the guy and think he means well, but he keeps falling into the same traps without realizing why.
Yeah, one reason I feel bad for him is that he works really, really hard trying to follow all the protocols for promoting your work and image etc., and he works hard to keep a good and gracious attitude about it and towards the fans/public. I think he does most all this with very little professional guidance. A lot of HW actors, especially Alisters have more hands on agents/managers that protect them more and give them straight-up, constructive advice. I don’t feel Tom has this kind of HW pro-advisor that knows him well enough to coach him. Imo his agency just gives him the standard treatment of setting up promo events and photo shoots and getting him successful work like TNM. But he does the rest, even most all the networking. Serioiusly.
I hope from this Golden Globe mis-step, his agency gets him a good public relations advisor to give him customized guidance cause it’s not like he doesn’t have good public skills. It’s more a matter of crossing over from a very remote, privileged perspective (albeit well intended) to a mainstream, pop multi-culture, culture imo.
Probably The Team is thinking this is no Justin Bieber, this guy Tom is really smart, older, well educated. He’s got this.
Good grief, it’s come to this? People actually feel the need to apologize for acceptance speeches, however self-serving and “inelegant” they are? He didn’t yell “fire” in a crowded building, for heaven’s sake.
People that need to be liked do.
Not people, just keyboard warriors whose main goal is to ridicule the sincere and give a pass to the terrible.
Well what I’m taking away from this is what was a win for him got taken away by his ramblings about his humanitarian work.
If he had been better prepared with a short acceptance speech, just in case, his win would be just that. Not the blown out of proportion mess this became.
I enjoy taking the piss out of him sometimes, like the Summer of Fauxmance, but this is just one time he took the piss out of himself.
Moving on to Monkey Business!
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While I will admit to my mind being absolutely BLOWN when I saw him give this speech and that I laughed hard, so hard that I wasn’t even sure what was happening was actually happening, but after 24 hours have passed I feel like some sort of clarity should have dawn on people that while this dude may be the definition of cringe, he’s not actually a truly, truly terrible person, like many in Hollywood. I’m not a fan of his but there are people (not necessarily here) who need to truly give the dude a break. He’s got nothing on Cumberbatch, I’ll say that. Hiddles famewhored around with an obnoxious mean girl and made a tragic acceptance speech while Cumberbatch is over here referring to black actors as “colored” and opining about wanting to “take a belt” to protesters and “make them lame” because of the Sherlock set being disrupted in the midst of the London riots.
I didn’t see his speech but the apology seems sincere.
I still don’t get what was so terrible about his speech? Talking about his humanitarian work in connection with he role he has been nominated for Golden Globe for? Nothing wrong with that.
Sincere speech. I like his honest enthusiasm, he doesn’t play coy. No apology needed! Night Manager was addicting! He deserved the award. Yay!
Exactly.
Hiddlecringe… I loved this nickname! Hahahaha
I’ll call him that from now on.
Looks like tom, Meryl S are the most talked news from GG and people are learning more about South Sudan. Dude must have done something right.
O.K. I was a the BAFTA Tea Party – TH came in late like 4pm, it ran till 5pm. He was holed up at a table with interviews on camera and then greeting several people he knows from BAFTA/LA. I saw him then – lots of bearhugs with men he knew and hugs and kisses with a few older couples. His (young) pr team was with him – they were chatty and nice when I spoke to them… He was nice to everyone..I had a few quick words with him…firm handshake. Don’t like the scruff or the color he had on. I am sure the jetlag made him look a bit tired…and I don’t understand this LEGS thing – he did seem to enjoy it though. He would have to make that appearance since they knew he was in town. ALL the celebs stopped by the Tea Party and I got to meet lots of them. The Tea Party is a big part of awards season now and gets better each year – lots of champagne and drinks, food and desserts with tea.
I don’t find him to be “hungry” for the attention – many celebs get lost in all the madness of these awards show – I have worked and been attending for years. Their pr team don’t know how to handle it all either. I thought his acceptance speech was well-intended and in the end sheds light on South Sudan and the problems. That in itself is worth something. But as I say it is the pr teams around him that should have been fired 6 months ago. Someone needs to impress that upon him – I did not see him afterwards at the GG parties…he went to the his agency WMA party. I think I like the guy but he needs some direction at this point in his career to make him seem more credible. That is all I want to report.
LEGS is because his long legs look lovely in a suit.
He’s grown up having his ass kissed all his life. It wasn’t “inelegant,” as if people had issue with the phrasing – the actual content and message was out of touch and narcissistic.
When a room full of CELEBRITIES noticeably reacts with embarrassment to your self-important nonsense, you have step back and evaluate yourself lol
@sarah by reaction of room full of celebrities who only care about 10000+ $ dress and nothing else?
yeah you are right this dude should have known better. THEY DON’T CARE.
If I cared about about Vince Vaughn or Christian Slater disapproving of my actions, then I would need to step back and evaluate myself. But I would have to lose my mind first before I cared about what Vince Vaughn or Christian Slater think.
LP, I wasn’t going to say anything because this has been beaten to death, but I have been thinking this since Sunday. Who actually cares what these 2 B listers think?
Tom was castigated for a larger issue that has nothing to do with his less than perfect speech. And there were others in the room who have done far worse. Mel Gibson, anyone?
Tom said once it isn’t “cool” to let yourself care. Stay nerdy, man.
“room full of CELEBRITIES noticeably reacts with embarrassment”
Really? I’d didn’t see that. I only saw the camera shots on Slater, Gibson & Vaugh, and the black couple whose names I don’t know. The other celebs in those shots didn’t seem to be “reacting with embarrassment” from what I could see. Bit of an over statement wouldn’t you say?
*correction*
The Mel Gibson and Vaugh camera reactions I saw were reactions to Meryl Streep’s speech, not Tom’s. oops
Have you heard his speech to the last word?
He specifically said at the end ” I didicate this
win to those out there, who are fixing the
world in the places where it is broken, to those
out there who are doing their best”. There is
no ambiguity, neither any place for
misinterpretation, no he was not self-serving
and showing off.
He does not need to apologize, he did nothing
wrong. On the other hand, those who criticized
him should do so! Profiously!
The fact that people are talking about his
speech, rather than thinking about children in
South Sudan is more worrying.
As a result of his speech, he has made me
aware of the humanitarian situation and I have
just committed to a monthly rolling donation
to MSF. Let’s take a moment to think about
these kids to show our support, with or
without making any donations.
Who is he apologizing to? The viewers from
South Sudan? Offending spoiled drama queens
isn’t the crime of the century.
People pick apart the little stuff, ignoring all the good in a person that has been demonstrated time and time again, & respond with so much poison, behaving much worse than the very offense they are condemning. I’m not speaking to the people who choose to have some fun with it. I’m speaking to the ones with the most vile of intent. This place is full of that. Worse kind of people, those who angrily judge others but act worse than the very ones they are judging. They are the hungry ones. Hungry for attention in any way they can get it.
100% agree. Especially about the REAL hungry ones. At least Tom’s “hunger” is for something positive and constructive, his acting career. It’s not like he’s a vindictive public leader or out for world domination.
i still don’t understand why people are so upset with this speech tbh. Not a fan of his but he just seemed to be a bit nervous and rambled.
I think much of it are tweeters and social media commenters that want to jump on the bandwagon and put their two cents in. Cause of course everyone wants their tweet to get shared or picked up by an entertainment media like EW that was the first to put them on their site. (It’s like perpetual high school this new sm mass culture we’re in now).
Around other media sites, as well as entertainment media and even YouTube comments, the general consensus is that the speech is not that bad or as terrible as people were led to believe. Awkward maybe but not scornful. So as far as most the general public is concerned, it seems to be endearing him to them for getting so much flak over nothing or at most a small, harmless mistake.
“a small, harmless, *well intended* mistake” is the more accurate opinion I should say.