This ^^ is Hunter Biden, former VP Joe Biden’s younger son. Joe Biden’s older son was the late Beau Biden, who passed away in 2015 from brain cancer. Beau’s passing devastated the Biden family, and Joe Biden has suggested that Beau’s passing was one of the big reasons he didn’t run for president in 2016, because he was still grieving and his family wasn’t ready. Beau left behind a widow, Hallie, and two children, Natalie and Hunter (yes, Beau named his son after his brother). Well, here’s a twist: Hallie and Hunter are now dating. Beau’s widow is dating her late husband’s brother. This is so… uncomfortable.
The widow of Joe Biden’s late son Beau Biden has started a romantic relationship with Beau’s brother Hunter Biden, the former vice president’s younger son. Hallie was devastated when her husband, Beau, died after suffering from brain cancer in May 2015. But she has since struck up a romance with Beau’s brother Hunter, 47, who has separated from his wife, Kathleen. We’re told Hallie and Hunter are now officially a couple.
The astonishing family drama caps a difficult period for the Bidens following the death of Beau at age 46. The former vice president cited the death of his elder son as one of the reasons he decided in October 2015 against running for president. Former Vice President Biden confirmed the relationship to Page Six and said that he and his wife, Dr. Jill Biden, have given their blessing to the couple.
He told us in an exclusive statement, “We are all lucky that Hunter and Hallie found each other as they were putting their lives together again after such sadness. They have mine and Jill’s full and complete support and we are happy for them.”
Hunter, a lawyer who has three daughters — called Naomi, Finnegan and Maisy — with estranged wife Kathleen, also told Page Six, “Hallie and I are incredibly lucky to have found the love and support we have for each other in such a difficult time, and that’s been obvious to the people who love us most. We’ve been so lucky to have family and friends who have supported us every step of the way.”
A source told us that the elder Hunter and Kathleen Biden separated in October 2015, five months after Beau’s death and around the time that Joe Biden decided not to make a presidential run. It is not clear if the estranged couple has yet filed for divorce. Kathleen, chairwoman of the DC-based Eleanor Roosevelt Dialogue, didn’t comment.
I think Page Six is trying to insinuate that Joe Biden didn’t run for president because his family was in shambles and Beau’s widow possibly homewrecked Hunter’s marriage. To which I say… probably not. I mean, Joe Biden decided not to run because his grief was (and is) so profound, not because of these shenanigans. That being said… this is a mess. If Ol’ Handsome Joe has given them his blessing, so be it. But it’s still messy as hell.
Also, it’s widely believed that Hunter is the “shady brother” – his name cropped up on the Ashley Madison hack, and he got kicked out the Navy for failing a drug test. Hm.
Here’s Hallie with Beau Biden in 2010.
Photos courtesy of Getty.
Wow, this sounds seriously unhealthy.
Yep, especially for Hunter’s own daughters. If he did leave his family to “comfort” his sister-in-law, then that’s even shittier than his Ashley Madison foray.
i don’t know a lot about Biden’s sons but Hunter has that douche/frat boy vibe about him, esp given his behaviour (Ashley Madison, drugs etc..). Its the kids i feel for, this will be very confusing and upsetting for them.
Not sure it will last? She must have been grieving desperately, and along comes a guy to cheer her up who is literally like her dead husband. My grandfather lost his wife, whom he ADORED, and then married her sister – as if he was trying to replace her. He couldn’t.
I, too, think this is the issue, and agree with your prognostication.
Exactly what I thought.
Sorry this is gross. So the kids are all “hey mom is dating my uncle?” how weird is that?! It would be different if they didn’t have kids but they do. This is gross sorry
I don’t know… I think it would be far less confusing than her becoming romantically involved with someone who was previously a stranger to her kids. His kids, I’m not sure… I suppose it would be accepted pretty easily since they are cousins. Apart from the hurt of the demise of their parents’ marriage, I mean.
I’m with you Nicole, I’m not having sex with anyone who has been inside my sister. If they get married, my uncle is now my stepdad. No, just no
This makes me think something was going on before his brother passed. Now that some time has gone by they can go public with it. That’s just my suspicious mind thought.
Idk these kids just lost their dad and the other set are dealing with the separation of their parents. Thats hard. Its even odder to have your uncle dating your mom. Sorry cousins becoming siblings does not make it easier in many ways its harder. Like I said this would be simpler if they didn’t have any kids.
Let’s not forget Hunter was in the car accident that killed his mother and sister. Then his brother dies at 46. Obviously he’s been through a lot of emotional trauma. If this helps him cope, so be it. Unless we’ve gone through the same kind of loss, who are we to judge?
Also, V4Real, I’m sure nothing was going on before Beau’s death. The grieving process makes people do “strange” things. Ever heard the stories of Jackie and Bobby Kennedy getting it on after JFK’s death? People do what they do to cope, and it makes sense when that other person completely understands what you’re going through.
I agree. It isn’t unheard of for people to cope with grieving this way. A number of 9/11 firefighter widows married their husbands’ former co-workers, after they dumped their own wives. The lines seem to get blurred during the comforting stage.
@pf but we all judge if we didn’t we wouldn’t be here, right.
And you can’t say for sure if something wasn’t going on before Beau passed. I can’t for sure say something was. It’s just opinions.
As for the firemen after 911, it wasn’t their sister in laws they were getting with, that’s different.
There is a guy in my group of friends who we nicknamed “Griever Pleaser” because when he was a young man (over 18) his best friend was in a car accident and everyone thought that he wasn’t going to survive (he did) but my friend ended up having a bunch of sex with his best friend’s mom while they were worrying over his condition.
Yikes! My main concern is that Beau’s widow is transferring her affections from Beau to Hunter. That does not bode well for their future.
This whole mess gives me a major case of the icks.
I think grief changes people, and after losing someone you love you are never the same again, and if these two have found comfort in each other, and love than nah I don’t find it uncomfortable, I kind of agree with JB they are lucky . Life is so short , and so cruel , I think people should take happiness where they can find it.
Amen!
Yes, I agree. Some losses are just so devastating. I can understand two of the people most grief stricken finding comfort in each other. I don’t judge stuff like this.
Thank you for your kind and insightful response. I have been through a close family member (sister) experiencing a very similar thing- they began dating 2 years after the sister deceased and got married 4 years after and it was a confusing time for those around us but love is love. As long as nobody was betrayed or cheated on during the marriage and they’re not hurting anyone, who are we to question or castigate the love these two have found with each other? In what may turn into a sea of “eeewws” on here, I appreciate your response more than I can convey because it breaks my heart to think that people would think of my sister that way without even understanding or knowing the relationship. When someone stands up to defend an unconventional love like this, it makes my heart smile.
I worry mostly about Beau’s widow. Hunter sounds like a disaster of a husband and person, the last thing she needs is another heartbreak.
Yeah, I kind of agree. I think that it’s rather unkind to judge them from the outside, I’m sure they were both devastated after Beau died. I also think these things happen more often than you’d think. I only feel bad for the soon-to-be ex wife. To have this play out so publicly … and they do have children together so it’s not like she can just cut him out of her life.
That’s where I am with it, too. I understand that grief really does change your perspective on a lot – and it changes your priorities and makes you really take a look at your life. This isn’t the first big loss in Hunter’s life either – his mother and sister were killed in a car accident – his daugther Naomi was named after the sister.
I can’t imagine it was easy on anyone – and I doubt it was an easy decision to make. I do feel bad for the soon-to-be-ex, though. But at the same time, I don’t know what their relationship was like. They’ve been separated since 5 months after Beau’s death though – so it’s possible that things had been crumbling for some time, and they stayed together during his brother’s health issues and death because adding a separation/divorce to that wouldn’t have made any of it easier. Who knows though – it could be sketchy, but there’s a decent possibility that it isn’t that bad. I don’t know enough about their marriage to know if this was something that was a long time coming.
I agree. I think Kathleen is the only one going to come out of this one clean.
If it’s real, then I’d agree, but I think I’d always worry it was just the grief, rather than actual love.
That family has been through a lot, I’ll just wish them all the best and leave it at that.
I agree. This may look like a twisted thing from the outside. But from the inside it is probably different. I am grieving the death of my dad… i know his death changed me forever and I struggle to find a way to live in this new world for me. So if they found each other though grief then it’s not that messy. In connection to this, my dad’s friend just revieled that he had an older brother who was born before the second world war and he was a son of his mother and his dad’s brother who died during the war. His dad came home and his brother’s wife was a widow with a small child on her hands so he married her and they had my dad’s friend, their second child. And he told me that tail in the most random way like this is life and messy things happen and grief has a way of connecting people. According to him that was normal and his family was not in any way different from any other family that has its own story that is difficult to understand from the outside
My sister married her late husband’s brother after his wife also died. It is not uncommon and in their case it was a few years after the deaths and both families and all the kids were delighted. They are both damaged and no one can ever replace their first loves, but they are happy together and it is hurtful when people suggest that they have done anything wrong. I thought the grief was going to kill her and now she smiles, so I am happy too.
I do. What if they have kids? Gross. You don’t always have to act on whatever you’re feeling. Sometimes you have to think of others before yourself.
Grief makes you go crazy. After the deaths in my family I have always made the most ridiculous decisions so I can’t judge these people. I’ll just say that I feel for Joe because he probably feels caught in the headlines for this l.
Yikes. Honestly though, I can see how this happened. Grief sometimes brings people together in this way. But this is still messy.
I wish Joe and Jill the best. They’ve been through enough.
Grief is a sad bond that brings people together, but it is still a bond.
This is some V.C. Andrews type sh*t
Not even close.
Eh, I don’t see the problem.
I don’t see a problem either. They’re both adults and hopefully aren’t hurting anyone else in the process. Sometimes it happens that way … having the love of one special person that passed away in common.
Me neither. Also, since as far as I know they are all private citizens not involved in politics, why are their private lives being splashed about, other than to somehow cast a negative aspect onto Joe?
Unless someone wrecked the other person’s marriage (in which case things are shady no matter what other connection they had or not) I can see how knowing each other and going through a painful time like this together can be the basis for a relationship.
I think people should live their lives regardless of my opinion but still, I wonder about him. I understand the widow may be subconsciously drawn to the parts of him that remind her of Beau and theres probably also a desire to remain connected to that warmth of that family. But him? I would expect him to be more conflicted about it. This is literal bro code breaking. They BETTER last, it would be stupid to cross such a boundary for a fling.
They’re consenting adults. My first reaction was eeeww….but if all the parties are accepting of it, it’s their business.
Oh wow, my first reaction was ‘awkward and ‘uncomfortable’, but really, if they and their families are happy then good for them.
This reminds me of the mess in the Jackson family. Alejandra married one bro and had 2 kids, divorced him and then married another of Micheal’s brothers and had 2 kids with him, then started hitting up Mrs. Jackson for child support.
It’s people’s choice who they wish to date. But I wouldn’t. Too close to home, too much baggage… What’s more interesting to me though, would this still be newsworthy if they are not family members of the former American Vice President?
I doubt anyone would care if they weren’t related to Vice President Biden because who would even know who they are?
No Grace it wouldn’t be newsworthy, it would be coming up next on Jerry Springer
So true. If not for their names people would probably think they live in a trailer park and had been featured on Cops.
Eh, who knows. Greiving does strange things to people and odd alliances are often formed when people need someone to greive/heal with.
Handsome Joe? is that a real nickname for Biden ’cause I don’t see it.
Hm.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/joe-biden-young-hot_us_58262f53e4b0c4b63b0c9e11
Cute! Never seen that pic before.
Google pictures of him when he was younger. I think that’s where the nickname comes from lol
What MellyMel said. .
He’s 74 and still looks great IMO. But when he was younger, he was definitely a hottie.
For me, it’s his smile.
[After looking up pic of “Young Biden”] Well, he was no “Young Stalin” — but not bad, at all, indeed…..
Yeah, nice smile, Inagree. But for me it’s his arms. Always have been a sucker fir forearms like that on a man.
Ol’ Handsome Joe Biden is a long time Wonkette name for him. He was rakishly handsome as a young man and retains some of the appealing rakishness even as an older statesman.
No flipping way. I would come back from the grave and hunt them both. So messy, inappropriate, confusing for your kids. Gosh poor Joe.
You would hunt them down and kill them? Okay…
Pretty sure she meant haunt. I’m assuming of course, but you don’t really hear a lot about sniper ghosts.
I think she meant haunt. Calm down.
Oh dear – it does sound like he left his wife/family to run after his SIL. Thou grief can make people odd out of the ordinary things.
It reminds me of the stories after 9/11 about surviving firefighters who left their wives for their colleagues’ widows.
And on the celebrity scene, Eddie left Debbie for newly widowed Liz (his best friend’s wife).
I was just going to say the same thing about the 9/11 firefighters – I think that grief consolation can make really strong bonds that cause people to make life changing decisions.
…and mountaineer Conrad Anker, who left his fiancee to marry his best friend Alex Lowe’s wife.
And Jackie Kennedy supposedly had an affair with Robert Kennedy after Jack’s assassination. Who knows what would have happened if Robert weren’t also killed.
Wow… that’s very… biblical…
Was just coming here to say this. It’s interesting how societal mores change
it worked for Henry the 8th and Katherine of Aragon right?
That was my first thought also. Wasn’t Onan’s sin supposed to be spilling his seed so he wouldn’t impregnate his dead brother’s wife, as he was legally or morally required to do? That’s been greatly misinterpreted as prohibition of masturbation, just as Sodom and Gomorrah’s sin was lack of hospitality to strangers and not about homosexual relations. Heck, the story made it sound as though tossing your daughters to the crowd to protect strangers in your house was a keen idea…
I think the idea of marrying your brother’s widow shows up in a lot of cultures. But in this case, it’s probably just that they both went through a very difficult experience together. Hopefully they will wait long enough to sort that out rather than marrying quickly.
I was just coming to mention this! It’s very cultural. Middle Eastern families (speaking from experience) if a man passes and leaves behind a wife and child, his brother is supposed to replace him *but only if unwed himself.
That must be confusing for the kids.
Definitely. If they married, would they consider them still as aunt,uncle,or just a step parent? Cousins or step siblings?
holidays with the new step-brothers and step-sisters will be awkward, considering they’re first cousins.
The real problem will be if his bio children are jealous of the time he spends with their cousins rather than them. That’s going to be tricky regardless of who he marries, though. The kids might end up fine with it, however. Children can be quite adaptable.
On the Next episode of “As the World Implodes” Hunter confesses his forbidden love for Hallie while President Trump ramps up his plot to freeze the world using a weather machine!
creepy + hunter is a sketchball = this wont end well
it’s all very low glam liz and debbie and eddie
This!
This happened with some neighbors on mine.Her husband was murdered, though.His brother became her “rock”, they eventually started a relationship but it only lasted about a year.But they didn’t have the support of the family.
Years ago there was a mourning period of 1 year and in doing genealogical research it was not uncommon for widowed people to marry a single sibling of their deceased spouse. I would think that grieving over the loss of a spouse whether by death or divorce would tend to part of the ties that bind.
I doubt this would be gossip if Hunter had been single and childless. Or even just single and unmarried. The issue that everyone sees is that Hunter was married and separated from his wife shortly after the death of his brother. Very suspicious timing. Looks like he and his dead brother’s wife either had an affair or hooked up shortly after Beau’s death while Hunter was still married. It’s a messed up situation.
This is certainly messy, but oddly enough I’ve seen it happen a few times, one of those the widow actually married her husbands best friend and they had a child and gave him the same damn name as the deceased, it was weird but they worked out and are still together years later. I guess grief really does change people and I can see how you’d find comfort in someone who knows your pain. Personally I couldn’t do it, I would constantly compare them in every way and that’s not fair. More power to them I guess!
Maybe they are not constantly comparing as much as searching desperately for some sign of the one they lost? (jmo)
When my dad’s father died in the 1950s, when he and his sisters were young kids, his mother married her late husband’s brother (so her brother-in-law) about two years later. My dad and his sisters all consider their uncle/stepdad to be their father, and mourned him as such at his funeral in July.
I know he wasn’t biologically my grandfather, but I considered him to be so.
It’s actually not as unusual as people think it is.
How biblical.
@aang My thoughts exactly! The “quiverfulls” or whatever they call themselves must approve.
Good grief. I wish them happiness. They came together grieving over his brother and her husband. Seems very natural. He’s been separated since 2015.
My first suspicion is that she is trying to get some part of her husband back, and this is some convoluted way of doing it. The fact that it’s so soon after Beau’s passing (less than 18 months!) furthers that suspicion. And Hunter has pretty well-known substance abuse issues (he got thrown out of the Navy a few years ago for drugs). I’m not sure he’s prime boyfriend material. I mean, overall, they’re adults, but this just reeks of grief reactions.
The only problem I see is Hunter’s kids. They might see it as their dad leaving them for their cousins. As long as they handle their confusion, I wish them well.
I agree that consenting, available adults can do whatever the hell they please. But I’m assuming there are FIVE minor children affected here? COME ON. If your grief is that overwhelming, get some good counseling because maybe you’re not in your “right” mind and there are kids who lost their DAD that need to be taken care of. And you can’t wait til they’re up and out? Sorry if I seem to be lacking empathy.
I didn’t forget about Beau’s kids, but I think the impact on them would be more positive. They lost a father, but their uncle was already a strong presence in their lives, so this might be a positive development for them. They are gaining some stability back.
Hunter’s kids, on the other hand, are losing stability. That in my eyes is the more potentially damaging development.
In the end though, we don’t know how this developed. I’ve seen strong families emerge from much messier situations.
I don’t think it’s great for either set of kids. They all could benefit the most from their parents being fully present for them. Despite all my hand-wringing tho, I’m sure everyone will be fine and not be harmed by this choice AT ALL. Srsly
Given that he’s her late husband’s brother, she no doubt sees a lot of Beau in him, physically and emotionally, and this is how she feels she can be close to her husband again. I don’t know that that’s necessarily a healthy thing, mind you.
Well, given the particular situation, this isn’t really that odd to me. Hopefully it’ll be as healing as it can be for both of them.
Eh, I won’t judge.
Less serious but am I the only one who thinks Hunter looks like Wilmer Valderrama in the first pic?
I’m not sure if that is who I am thinking of, maybe…but yes, the only thought I have about this story is: Hunter Biden has a celebrity doppelganger, but I can’t put my finger on who it is!
They are just announcing it, which means they’ve been together for a while and feel it’s solid enough to say they are together.
My friend lost her mother when she was 20 or so. I can’t remember her age. I met her after. But her dad never liked her mother’s sister and didn’t like her around. After her mom died, her aunt was very helpful and caring and helping out him and the family. She had divorced a while back. They developed a relationship and married. My friend didn’t have a problem with it She loved her aunt and was glad her dad wasn’t alone, and her aunt was family, which to her was better than a strange woman eventually entering their life.
When my mom died, I hated seeing my father so unhappy and alone, and knew as a daughter one day I should want him to find happiness, a companion in his older age. But I couldn’t stand the thought of that, some woman taking over my mom’s home.. If he had lived, I would never have minded it being my aunt (not that it would happen, out of state) who married him. She was family to me and loved my mother dearly.
I could see why her kids would be okay with it after losing their father, since he’s probably been a devoted uncle. Since it’s a divorce on Hunter’s side, I could see where his kids wouldn’t be okay with it, loyalty towards their mom.
My first thought was that this sounds like something that used to happen hundreds of years ago. Henry VIII married Catherine of ARagon after his brother died. It was very common back then and seen as a way to protect the widow/keep her in the family. Now, I admit, it does seem creepy. I guess I wish them the best though.
Eeeehhhhh, not so much. In fact, one of the reasons why Henry VIII left the Catholic Church was because he applied for an annulment of his marriage to Katherine of Aragon on the grounds that he WASN’T supposed to marry his brother’s wife. Under canon law, it was illegal for a man to marry his brother’s wife.
Katherine’s argument was that the marriage to Arthur (the brother) had never been consummated, and therefore she and Arthur weren’t legally married in the eyes of the Church and her marriage to Henry was OK. The Pope, who was related to Katherine, stuck up for her and Henry picked up all his marbles and walked. /historylesson
Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. Good God, how small of a circle do you have if you have to date a family member?! Messy, incestuous and just plain wrong. I cannot imagine losing a husband but to date his brother, your brother in law?! So if you marry, your cousin is now your brother? WTF!? :-O
I think if Hunter weren’t so sketchy they would not be getting *as much* side eye.
My sister is alive and bitching, but I honestly would never get involved with a guy she’s been with. She feels the same. The thought of being with someone who slept with or loved my sister is kind of icky.
I can see how something like this could happen after an intense trauma. Still uncomfortable as hell at family reunions.
The only issue I have with this is the dates. Beau died in May 2015. Hunter split with his wife in the fall of 2015. And this couple has been together for a while. There is just something too Eddie Fischer / Liz Taylor about this. (And that was a friend situation not actual family). I feel bad for Hunter’s kids – this can not be great for them.
Poor boundaries on both of their parts. There are a million fish in the sea, so to speak. They were not each other’s only potential source of comfort. This makes me sad for everyone involved.
Thank you. Yes: BOUNDARIES.
(and transference as mentioned down thread)
This is so wrong, on so many levels.
I would love to know what the estranged wife of Hunter thinks about this.
Honestly, much of the dynamics may not have changed for the kids. He’s been separated for a long time. I don’t understand why it’s taken so long to file for divorce or what the sticking points are. I don’t think he was undercover with Hallie- he may have stepped out on his wife, but I bet it was with someone else. His “estranged” wife is probably having the hardest time dealing. It’s a mess, no doubt, and I wonder how Joe and Jill really feel about it- if they felt it was disrespectful to Beau’s memory. But grief does crazy things and while the relationship grew out of that, it doesn’t mean it can’t continue to thrive. Now, I think the relationship ending would be more devastating to the kids- because that sets up all kinds of awkwardness. Because they will never be out of one another’s lives. They are bound by family.
*awkward silence*
Did everyone try the chicken? I thought the chicken was lovely.
*BULGED OUT EYES CARTOON STYLES @ this whole scandalous ass situation*
*sprays thread with agua bendita, cause really yall are telling me these people Old Testament Liz Taylored each other but they are WASPS ao we’re gonna act faux dignified BUT THIS IS SCANDALOUS!*
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f39/Themaster828/Funny/Disgusted-Grandma.gif
OH YES THE CHICKEN!, SO DELICIOUS, SO MOIST… I want mine to GO.. I Cant stay here no more
That gif is amazing.
Thank you to all the people who haven’t immediately run to an “eww” answer.
These are two people who are totally unrelated by blood, who found solace with each other after both dealing with heartbreak.
Yes, it’s not the traditional set up, but I’ve always thought that stuck too far up someone’s traditionalist ass anyway. If it brings them some happiness, I will not judge them for it. I wish them the best.
I’m all for love, for finding true connection with another person, and I hope that for both of them that is what it is.
Go ahead and yell at me, but what I am really hoping it is not is a move by Hunter to somehow claim a “prize” the “good son” once had. I don’t know the relationship between these particular brothers, but sometimes there’s competition between siblings, especially if one is the golden child and one is not. I hope some deeper motives aren’t clouding Hunter’s judgment here. She’s bound to be vulnerable. I’m hoping it’s true love on both of their parts.
Uncle daddy Hunter and Step mommy aunt Hallie. I can’t.
Sounds disturbing…lol. Uncle Daddy.
This makes me feel so icky.
Well………. I wish this story ended with ‘but it’s all good because they are both in therapy and their respective licensed therapists agree that in their particular situation it’s not transference’.
I think this story came out because they were getting ready to be outed, so agreed to give a statement. I can’t imagine going to the NY Post to announce this, especially with him still married, and no one knew he was separated. It seems like an inopportune time, not chosen by the couple, but forced to announce it.
Two consenting adults decided to become a couple. Good for them, it’s not my business.
I bet some psychologists/experts can weigh in on this phenomenon. This is a thing w grief. Fireman in New York’s September 11th left their wives for fallen friends wives. I know a psychologist who took up w her firefighter patient and broke up his marriage when she should have been treating him.
Liz Taylor took up w Eddie Fischer (her husbands best friend) when her husband at the time died in a plane crash.
It just becomes a mess usually in the long run and doesn’t work out!
The Pearl clutching is cute, but seriously Live and let live we have much bigger fish to fry in the world give me a break
That could be posted in every topic on this site and yet we still “clutch pearls” but to me this is gross yes they are consenting adults but if there were no kids it wouldn’t bug me as much. There are kids involved and the adults except for Kathleen have been rather selfish in all of this.
What if, Hallie and Hunter already had something going on when Beau was alive, and the child named after Hunter was because the child was actually fathered by Hunter, but Beau being the stand up guy everyone says he is, raised the child as his own and it became a secret only known to immediate family.
What if after Beau died all of this came out and Hunter’s wife said “F this mess” and left, and Hunter and Beau’s wife took up where they left off ( before H’s wife and Beau were in the picture)?
Ok, I need to stop watching Jerry Springer, the above scenario made perfect sense in my head LOL.
Seriously though, in many parts of Asia it is common to have a brother marry his brother’s widow, as long as they are happy, fine by me.
My grandfather married his wife’s sister (my grandmother). My great-aunt died unexpectedly from a blood clot after childbirth and my grandmother moved in to help with the children.
My grandmother also passed away young (after having 8 more kids with my grandfather). So, I don’t have a first-hand account of their courtship, so I don’t know if it was driven more by emotion or practicality, or a bit of both. My grandfather was the crusty, old school type — so I don’t think he was particularly kind and supportive to any of his wives.
But I do know that it was a comfort to my mom’s half-brother/cousin to be raised by his aunt — and that he was quite close with her. My mother is also named after her aunt.
I’m not going to pass judgement on this particular situation. It may be squicky in terms of when the relationship began, but it also may just be two people in unhappy situations who found that they support and comfort each other. The only people Hunter and Hallie owe an explanation to are their kids and (ex) spouse.
TMZ has a copy of his divorce papers and is reporting that his wife kicked him out because:
“Hunters recent conduct creates situations that are unsafe or traumatic for the parties’ children, and his judgment is frequently impaired.” and “She goes on to claim Hunter was a lavish spender “on himself and his own pursuits.”
This divorce is going to get messy. It would appear that they’ve gone public with the relationship to beat TMZ to the punch. Am also sad that Joe and Jill have said that they support the new relationship but don’t mention their soon to be ex-DIL and grandkids.
http://www.tmz.com/2017/03/02/joe-biden-daughter-in-law-kathleen-divorce-hunter/
I’ve changed my mind. She had a wonderful man, and I think he would be upset for his wife to be involved with Hunter. The divorce sounds messy.
And testing positive for coke at 44? His dad was vice-president. Grow up.
I know, right?!
I don’t care what the adults do in this situation, but boy have they created a powder keg of resentment for the next generation.
There’s no way ‘Daddy dumps Mommy to go play house with Aunt Hallie and our cousins’ doesn’t totally screw up any chance of those kids having a close extended family.
I don’t have ANY compassion for any of these people, except for Kathleen, Hunter’s WIFE. My heart hurts for her. She is not only losing her husband to her sister-in-law, but she is losing the Biden family. (It wouldn’t be as much of a loss if Hunter had stepped out with another woman in a DIFFERENT family.) She is probably humiliated beyond belief. And she will be forced to continue to interact with all of these people for the sake of the kids. What a nightmare.
+1
The real reason Biden didn’t run for president in 2018, according to sources, is that Hillary’s people shot him down. It’s pretty well known they cleared the field for her (Biden, Sanders, etc). Just FYI.
This has so many red flags for me. That’s not how you honour your brothers/husbands memory. I feel most sorry for all the kids involved & beau. Like how do you even begin to think of your dead husbands brother in a romantic manner? Were these feelings there before he passed, did they act on them? How do you explain this to the kids. So many fish in the sea and you picked your brothers wife. Come on now. Whole situation is foul to me.
i feel like we can’t judge all too much because they were both clearly in tons of pain and people latch on to each other in those kinds of situations and things can get intense.
in a way, i think it can even be kind of sweet.
mostly, i just hope there s no more icky scandal or stuff about the estranged wife or anything else that comes out. those peeps have been through a hell of a lot.