Meghan Markle might become the Duchess of Sussex if she marries Harry

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Prince Harry & Meghan Markle took the “next step” in their relationship this weekend. They attended his friend’s wedding and they were seemingly fine with being photographed together. That’s a big deal in royal circles, almost like it’s a down payment on an engagement. So what’s happening now? I don’t know. There are a lot of blah stories about how Harry and Meghan are loved up and how this was such a huge step, but most of those pieces just read as PR fluff, make-a-story around the photos. The Sun did have some exclusive information about Meg and Harry’s magical weekend, so here you go:

Prince Harry knocked over a tray of drinks while moonwalking to Michael Jackson at his best friend’s wedding. Harry, 32, in Jamaica for a three-day knees-up with lover Meghan Markle, crashed into a waitress while showing off his moves to hit Billie Jean. Insiders said Harry was on the dancefloor enjoying the “mother of all parties” on Friday night after his Eton pal Tom Inskip tied the knot.

One revealed: “He was going backwards when he banged into a waitress carrying a tray of drinks and sent them flying. Harry gasped, looked shocked and put his hands on the waitress’s shoulders and apologised. Meghan and Harry were kissing each other constantly and danced with each other. Everyone was very drunk.”

Harry, actress Meghan, 35, and dozens of guests sank rum cocktails and tucked into jerk chicken at the £5,000-a-night Round Hill Hotel in Montego Bay. Speculation is growing that the couple, who have been dating since last June, will be next to get hitched. Pals say they have already discussed marriage and kids. One said: “I think Harry may propose near the anniversary of their first date. So they’ll be engaged by the end of the summer. They have spoken candidly about their future and see a life together. They both want kids and have chatted about how they’d be as parents. It’s the real deal for both of them.”

[From The Sun]

I would pay good money to watch Harry drunkenly dancing to “Billie Jean.” I hope Meghan didn’t get too drunk, although that’s the fun of weddings – everybody gets sauced and dances like crazy.

Meanwhile, people are already starting to theorize about what title Meghan might get if and when she marries Harry. People think it might be… the Duchess of Sussex? Royal historian Robert Lacey said this weekend: “It’s likely the Queen will grant him a royal dukedom and I think Harry will get Sussex.” No one has had that dukedom since 1843, when the last Duke of Sussex died without any legal male heir. I think “the Duchess of Sussex” sounds sexy. Probably because “sex” is right in the name. Like, why not call them the Duke and Duchess of Hotgingerbanging?

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  1. Gaston says:

    The British monarchy is slowly dying, there’ll be a Rexit referendum one day.

  2. Carol Hill says:

    I love Harry for dating a woman who is not in her 20’s and not a blond. And she is so not blond!! He renews my faith in royals.

    • kimbers says:

      Agree she has normal features and isnt crazy beautiful or fully injected like other celebs! She regular =]

      • HappyMom says:

        I disagree-I think she’s gorgeous.

      • applapoom says:

        I actually think Meghan is gorgeous and the previous girlfriends quite ordinary looking (although they have “pedigree”).

        Having said that I am just not convinced this will last.

      • Kitten says:

        I think she’s stunning.

      • kimbers says:

        Huh…maybe it’s from where i grew up and dont think anything special about her looks just normal to me and my peeps

    • KB says:

      As a blonde, I never minded him dating blondes. Aside from that, I agree. He’s bucking all expectations.

    • Matomeda says:

      I think she’s normal-pretty, in the way lots of girls I know are, but of course pretty. I also think they make a great looking couple!

      • Camille says:

        Well Harry is no oil painting himself (I’ll never understand his appeal at all – he’s a balding, terrible hair styled ginger with close set eyes and is incredibly average at best looking to me), I think she is gorgeous.

      • Rocio says:

        I agree Camille. She’s really pretty and I bet she can do so much better than BRF. It comes as a mystery (or not) to me that the British aristo wants nothing to do with them (as extended family) and they have to look for wives in other circles.

      • Sarah says:

        I think Meghan is beautiful, Cressida was beautiful and Chelsy Davy was kind of odd looking. Having said that, from old pics and the pics of Harry and Meghan this weekend, she seems a LOT more into him than he seemed into her. Marriage?? Not from the pics I saw. Maybe he was just uncomfortable, but he was affectionate to old girlfriends, so maybe he is over her.

      • dodgy says:

        @ Rocio It comes as a mystery (or not) to me that the British aristo wants nothing to do with them (as extended family) and they have to look for wives in other circles.

        They have the perks that the royals do have, in terms of money and access- and don’t have to live their lives in public like Royal escorts have to. If I were an aristo, I’d never want to marry a Royal. I’d rather marry an Aristo if I moved in those circles, tbh…

    • Sunsetsnow says:

      I disagree! She’s gorgeous and sexy!

    • Right on, I agree with you. Megan is the boost that royal family needs!
      I hope they will walk down the aisle.

  3. Khaleesi says:

    Well if she keeps being clingy as she was in Jamaica she will get her title.

    • Shirleygail says:

      I thought she looked clingy in the pics also…you’re the first person to mention it….

      • Khaleesi says:

        I think other people on the article from yesterday also wrote something like that, but I didn’t really read the comments there.

      • Maria says:

        Yes, she looked all loved up when they were sitting. We didn’t see pics of Harry banging into waitresses, and knocking trays over. Would be more interesting.

      • Nicole says:

        A lot of people noticed and commented in the article yesterday. Seemed pretty obvious to me as well

      • Citresse says:

        Shirleygail- good point, I thought she looked clingy too. It’s been discussed Harry likes feisty, independent women so the indifference from Harry in latest photos comes as no surprise.

      • cushy says:

        I agree she looked clingy. Clingy and desperate. I don’t think she felt comfortable with his friends.

    • Pix says:

      I think she looked clingy too, but i get why. He was the only person she knew at the wedding and, clearly, all the guests were looking at her. Checking her out, sizing her up, and judging. I’ve been in less pressure cooker significant other meet-and-greets with and i’ve also been super clingy. I think it says more that he seemed so nonchalant about her tactile nerves.

    • Olga says:

      Trouble in paradise? Body language expert warns Harry and Meghan look ‘awkward’ in Jamaica photos and says the Prince may already be BORED of his actress girlfriend

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4285908/Body-language-expert-says-Harry-Meghan-look-strained.html

      • Linda says:

        I totally believe they will not last much longer. Pictures of her holding onto him and him leaning away from her. Don’t have to be a body language expert to understand this scenario.

      • artistsnow says:

        The Daily Mail takes an inch and makes a thousand miles.

        The body language in ALL the pics is SO romantic I can’t stand it.

        You remember how it is when first in love? OMG. Electricity all the time. YOu are attached at the hip or can barely touch. I think her arms on Harry are nurturing and loving. And I think he seems to LOVE it. He seems totally stunned with good luck. And she is hot. And smart. And in charge already. This girl looks like she can handle the Queen. lol

  4. Rocio says:

    How much money will their wedding /lifestyle cost the British people? That’s the question. The only question.

    • Citresse says:

      I hope Harry finds his true love in S. Africa, elopes and has a very happy life in UK and S. Africa.

      • MissLee says:

        @Citresse, are you perhaps a fellow South African? If so, hello from Cape Town! Since we already have a princess in the house of Monaco, this might not happen for us 🙁

    • Skins says:

      I hope the taxpayers aren’t paying for his alcohol intake. Might bankrupt the country

    • Megan says:

      I just had a terrible thought. If they have an official state wedding, they will have to (due to good manners and protocol) invite Donald Trump. For that reason alone, they should elope!

      • Amelie says:

        Hmm not sure Donald Trump would be invited. I don’t believe the Obamas were invited to Will and Kate’s wedding in 2011. They had a state visit a few months after the wedding which I’m guessing made up for there not being invited to the wedding. Mostly royals from other countries and heads of state part of the Commonwealth were invited. So Justin Trudeau of Canada could be invited. But there is no law that states Trump has to be invited. As an American I doubt Meghan would want Trump there taking attention away from her.

      • Tina says:

        Reagan didn’t come to Andrew and Sarah’s wedding in 1986 (Nancy Reagan did though). We might have to deal with Ivanka.

      • Nic919 says:

        Trudeau would be invited because Meghan knows Sophie. But the head of State is the GG David Johnston.

      • Tia says:

        The heir gets a state wedding which is why Charles and Diana did. William wasn’t the heir (yet) so he didn’t and Harry certainly won’t.

      • Tina says:

        The Canadian head of state is the Queen, the GG is her representative.

      • notasugarhere says:

        W&K’s wedding was a made up “semi-state” event. All kinds of people were not invited (and possibly offended) by their games.

  5. Skins says:

    She will be The Duchess of Donothing

    • Merritt says:

      Odd statement given that she already does charity work.

      • notasugarhere says:

        And knows how to work for a living and earn a rumored (read, rumored) $7 million of her own.

      • Robin says:

        Lets everyone know how wonderful she is for doing it, too.

      • Vico says:

        7 million? With her class act in the tv series? You clearly know very little about the industry. More high-profile actors don’t have that money.

      • Tina says:

        Those net worth sites are notoriously unreliable. Basically they calculate everything a person has ever earned and don’t deduct anything for living, agent’s fees and taxes.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Said “rumored” folks. Fact is, she is worth more than most of us and she earned it all herself. Many, many, many steps up from previous married-ins.

      • Maria says:

        Net worth means your total assets minus debts. So, a paid up house plus liquid assets, cars, jewelry etc. It’s not related to your salary, or any regular expenses.

    • Erica says:

      That title is already taken by kate,the duchess of donothing aka Dolittle. At least Meghan has a job and life unlike Kate who waited for years while doing nothing before marriage.I like her,she seems like a smart woman who seems to make harry happy .I can’t wait for the announcement!👑

      • applepie says:

        Kate worked before she got hitched. She has two kids, what does she do? Stay at home and enjoy her children. She is then criticised for not working, or she works constantly and is called a distant mum? I think she needs a break. She has big shoes to fill (Diana) and the paparazzi in UK is choking. Damned if she does, damned if she doesn’t. I am not a royalist and think William is work shy . Were’s the heat on him?

      • LAK says:

        Applepie: in the 5years between university and her marriage, Kate worked for all of 9months at a rate of 3 days a week which soon turned into 2 days a week, plus a month off for heartbreak leave at Jigsaw. So really about 4months total if you compress the days.

        She may have popped into PP from time to time or help out, but clearly it was either so rare or so random that Pippa couldn’t describe her role at PP when asked in a sympathetic interview to the Sunday Times in 2010.

        All jobs attributed to Kate in the gossip media were in reality credited to other people and her efforts as a royal are proof of how much work experience she had as a GF because they remain at the level of a subpar young intern.

      • applepie says:

        Thanks @LAKS. You know her?

      • Blu says:

        Nope applepie, she’s just obsessed with her. She can describe any detail,event or story of Kate’s life in great detail (pre and post William)…Though her comments always seem to have a negative bias towards Kate…hmm.

      • notasugarhere says:

        No need to “know her”, it was all documented in the press. Including the embarrassing Pippa snafu on camera as LAK mentioned. Ditto the public credit to the real photographer for PP as she said. Employers and co-workers also went on record about how her temporary, part-time at Jigsaw.

        Tired of the sideways bashing of working parents. All of the other royals manage to work and raise happy children. If she wants to be a SAHM, William is free to remove himself from the line and pay for all of their expenses out of his private inheritance. It would last them about 5 years at their rate, less if they had to buy their own home.

        Being royal these days means working for your pay. These two take all the perks, refuse to do the work. Therefore they are criticized.

    • Elizabeth says:

      She works for charity on top of her acting job. She’s far from a donothing!

    • dewey says:

      @Skins

      I totally agree with you! Doing charity work is such bologna. It is good PR..showing up at some events…taking some photos with children and flashing smiles. People need quality employment. If she wasn’t fighting for that in the U.S. or Canada, she won’t be fighting for it in Britain.

    • misery chick says:

      @SKINS- you mean Katie Keen, right?!?

    • artistsnow says:

      Disagree COMPLETELY.

      Harry and Meghan have a chance to be the FIRST Royals to carry on Diana’s legacy. The Princess of Wales sank herself into situations and actually made a difference in the world.

      Harry already is carrying on his mothers legacy. He goes everywhere and always always is right there in front, hugging and talking and playing with kids and people from all over the world.

      He does NOT make photo ops. Ever. I get the sense Meghan will be a HUGE help and even an inspiration. Anything can happen. 😉

  6. jmooo says:

    The comments about this couple are not that nice on British websites.

    • toni says:

      If she were blonde and white they’d love her.

      • TheSageM says:

        If she was single (as in never married) and a little younger they would love her even more.

      • sarri says:

        Many don’t like her because she is from America.

      • sara says:

        god, what are the problem of the brits?? she sooooooooo much better than Kate.

      • Fluff says:

        It’s probably not Brits commenting (most Brits either like her or are supremely uninterested in all things Royal), it’s either racists or Harry stans.

        The Daily Mail website gets most of its webhits from abroad, which is why they’re constantly running articles on American, Australian and other foreign reality slebs unknown in Britain.

      • spidey says:

        @ sara – hardly fair to judge a whole nation for the alleged attitudes of a few to the current girl friend of a member of the RF. After all, we don’t blame all Americans for Trump!

      • Olga says:

        @Fluff

        There are many Brits who comment and write things like that they don’t want to pay for a d-list actress or that they want royal Brexit if he marries her and so on.

      • Bettyrose says:

        I can only imagine the horror of someone who only judged Americans based on online comments. 😉

      • Anne says:

        Nope, Brits would hate any Harry’s gf- I don’t know why? Someday he will get marry and they will pay for wedding, pay for her dresses ect..
        She is OK, no better or worse than his ex, but Brits will have another boring, doing nothing royal couple. Why doing nothing? Bc of Will. He won’t allow to H&M be more popular than he and Kate.

      • Lady D says:

        Won’t allow? Like William has the right to order Harry around? I think little Prince Willy is in for a hell of a shock when Harry marries her.

      • Fluff says:

        Brits do not hate her, I don’t know why non-Brits (always non-Brits, I’ve noticed) keep making that assertion. People choosing to post on Meghan articles are a tiny self-selected minority, and while some of them are certainly British, many of them are not. Certainly on CB all the most vicious comments come from non-Brits.

    • spidey says:

      @ Bettyrose, you put it so much better than I did. 🙂

  7. The Original Mia says:

    Now I’ve got Billie Jean stuck in my head.

    The jokes would write themselves with Sussex, but not sure they want to do Clarence and have another DoC.

    • notasugarhere says:

      I don’t like Sussex either, for that reason plus it is too close to Wessex. Another DoC would be boring. I like Clarence & Avondale, but realize it is unlikely.

      • LAK says:

        I vote Suffolk first, Clarence and Avondale second.

      • Tina says:

        Suffolk isn’t a vacant royal dukedom (plus there’s a present Earl of Suffolk). Clarence & Avondale is unlikely as nota notes, both because they’ve moved away from the double dukedom thing and because the last one (Eddy) was such a nightmare.

      • LAK says:

        I didn’t realise there was an Earl of Suffolk. My bad.

        I don’t like the double dukedom and would settle for Clarence (yes i know the history), but if they are to have a double dukedom, Clarence and Avondale.

        Newer information has been released about Eddy which calls into question his alleged bad behaviour. In a similar way that new information has called into question many previously accepted ‘truths’ about his father Bertie.

      • notasugarhere says:

        I think the Jack the Ripper part has been put to rest, finally. I saw an interesting show about a Swedish policeman who has a very good theory about the real culprit. Convincing and not the royal suspect.

  8. sarri says:

    These two and the articles about them are so boring. I thought they would be interesting, exciting etc. but meh.

    • HappyMom says:

      Like what? Plus-they’re not married yet. They’re going to be a lot more interesting once they’re actually out there doing their “job”.

  9. Basi says:

    Where’s (THE) Amy?

    • Maria says:

      In bed with a severe migraine.

    • graymatters says:

      Parsing the wedding poem. Apparently, someone read a poem at the wedding which some tumbler trolls are trying to interpret as Harry’s friends hijacking the wedding to warn Harry of Megan’s unsuitability.

      • artistsnow says:

        I read that poem. It was solely about the groom it seemed, and somewhat misogynistic, but lovely at the same time., if that makes sense.

    • littlemissnaughty says:

      On tumblr?

      I find the comments about them as a couple so odd, I have no idea what she’s done to people. I think we could all use a little glamour to distract ourselves now and then. These two would be perfect. Although maybe that’s just me. My taxes aren’t funding a monarchy.

    • Fluff says:

      Either banned for sockpuppeting/trolling or learned to be more subtle?

      Curious that ‘Amy’ vanished at the same time about ten “but she looks clingy and he looks disinterested and anyway ASTROLOGY SAYS THEY’RE DOOMED” new posters showed up.

    • Lady D says:

      Amy came down with a bad case of biatchitis syndrome a couple of days ago.

  10. WeAreAllMadeOfStars says:

    Two out of the first five commenters in a very bad mood today…. this does not prefigure good things.

    • Whyme says:

      Don’t be too hard on them, they just found out they aren’t going to have the title of Duchess of Sussex.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Ultimately comments on websites won’t deter this couple if they want to marry. I seriously doubt that the 5th in line marrying Markle (if he does) would cause the end of the monarchy. If Charles, Diana, Camilla, Fergie, and Airmiles Andy didn’t end it, this pairing wouldn’t.

      • dewey says:

        @notasugarhere

        The end of the monarchy will be due the information age we are currently in and the employment problems in Britain. The internet allows us to be closer than ever, yet never more far apart. Some use the internet to share and trade information, some use it to play mind games/be passive aggressive to friends/family/associates/strangers, and some people do both.

        These people are a waste of money, that could be used towards education/job
        training/etc.

      • Tina says:

        Nota’s right. We don’t have a functional opposition party to point out the (perfectly sensible) points you made, dewey. And even if we did, Labour has always been too chicken to really go after the royals.

    • Maria says:

      LOL! Kaiser! I love the second title better, Duchess of Hotgingerbanging! She will be referred to as her Royal Highness Duchess Hot.

  11. Mousyb says:

    This weekend’s thread about them at the wedding was killing me, so many supposed body language experts out there hahaha Seriously tho, why does this couple get so much hate?? They seem fine, well suited for each other and can give the monarchy the kick in the a** it needs…

    • LOLADOESTHEHULA says:

      Ha! They are nothing if not predictable. I called the projection disguised as body language ‘analysis’ when the first pics of them surfaced. It’s one of the classic symptoms of Cumberbitchitis.

    • HappyMom says:

      I agree. People are insane.

    • Sarah says:

      Because if you look at the pictures objectively, she is constantly touching/hugging him and his body language is totally closed off to her. That is, if you can look at them not praying for their marriage.

      • Fluff says:

        But you’re basing that on one single moment (under pretty weird and stressful circumstances). It’s not like we’ve seen loads of photos of them, they’ve been papped together exactly three times, and each of those three times only cover a time period of minutes or even seconds.

        I’m sure if someone followed my fiance and I around and took three pics at random over the course of months, we wouldn’t look super loved up either.

        None of us have the slightest idea how they behave together or how physical they are with each other.

        I have no interest in their marriage as I’m a die hard republican, I just raise my eyebrow at the fact whenever any ‘desirable’ male celeb gets a significant other, CB is suddenly overrun with new posters shouting about how awful she is and that they’re obviously doomed.

      • Sarah says:

        Fluff, I’m not a new poster. And I”m a 55 year old woman. I am hardly sad that Harry may get married. 🙂

  12. Kim says:

    Since hooking up with the Prince, I noticed Megan’s character in Suits has had very little physical contact with her fiancé (who just got out of prison), outside of touching his hand in a scene or two. There has certainly been no kissing scenes, which is a far cry from their characters’ behavior pre-Harry. Does anyone know if this is some kind of respect being shown to the Royal Family by Megan and/or the producers? Is this a Royal rule?

    • The Original Mia says:

      Could be a couple of things: Meghan & Patrick aren’t friends anymore. May be unable to fake the passion now. Patrick is now married and he’s put a stop to the sexy scenes. Might have zero to do with Harry.

      • Kim says:

        All good points… either way, ending that storyline would make it a much easier show to watch. Gabriel Macht is my eye candy – and the only thing that keeps me tuning in!

      • littlemissnaughty says:

        I never made it past season 2 (and hated them as a couple once that started) so I don’t know how this might fit into their storyline. But would showrunners accomodate him like that???

      • Lorelai says:

        Wait, Meghan and Patrick aren’t friends anymore? I totally missed that! Where did you hear that?

    • original kay says:

      maybe Rachel is mad he lied, got caught, went to jail?
      she stood by him and it still went south?

      I mean, I’d be pretty upset too.

    • Whaaaaaaatttt? says:

      TV shows get filmed far in advance, right? I bet it is unrelated.

  13. HeidiM says:

    let it be the dukedom of roughsex and let me watch.

  14. Digital Unicorn (aka Betti) says:

    I likey the jacket she’s wearing in the first photo.

    • Mousyb says:

      But…but body language!! Hes CLEARLY not into her!!!11!! Shes the next waity!!!!

      /sarcasm

  15. Talie says:

    I think people need to deal with the fact that these two are on their way to marriage. Harry is ready and clearly Meghan has one foot out the door of her acting career.

  16. Prince says:

    When did Henry start to lose his looks?

  17. anon says:

    I just realized who she reminds me of. She looks like the female version of Pete Wentz.

    • MellyMel says:

      OMG now that’s all I can see! They def look like they could be siblings. Plus I just found out recently that Wentz is half black himself which I never heard all these years.

    • Shambles says:

      You’ve made this entire comment section worth it for me. Thank you.

  18. Beth says:

    He didn’t seem that interested in her. Didn’t look like he was about to walk down the aisle. I hope it just seemed like it and they really are happy together

  19. notasugarhere says:

    Continuing to try to broaden the discussion. Would a member of the BRF be allowed to do the type of charity work Meghan Markle has done with World Vision?

    Some might say, “Of course, that’s exactly what they should be doing”. Others might say, “No, it is too political”. It is, after all, going to another country (as part of a religious charity) and (possibly implying) that the country needs to change something they are doing.

    Denmark allows this some with Mary around FGM, a bit with Marie although her DanChurchAid work focuses on hunger. Mabel of the Netherlands has #girlsnotbrides, but she’s not on the royal payroll.

    • Maria says:

      Good question. World Vision does very good work, but you never know. But there are tons of charities that are in need of good patrons. But the Queen is in a sort of religious position in the sense that she is head of the Church of England. Don’t they support World Vision? When you are the head of a Christian body, you can’t divorce yourself from other christian organizations. In my humble opinion. When and if Meghan marries Harry, will she have to convert, I believe she is Roman Catholic.

      • spidey says:

        @ Maria, That is an interesting point. I’m not sure if she would have to now given that he is only 5th in line to the throne. It may not be as nailed on as say 50 years ago. And to throw something else into the mix, she is a divorced Catholic.

      • Rocio says:

        It’s shame that she would have to give up her career and religion to marry the guy.

      • LAK says:

        It depends what type of christian organisation they are eg catholic christians or protestant christians. If they are protestant, are they baptists, pentecostals, evangelicals, quakers, CoE etc. The Queen is head of CoE. Any expectations of her heading up a christian organisation is limited to whether or not it is CoE christian organisation.

        Regarding the question of religion or divorce in order to marry, those things are not issues anymore.

        As of March 2015, any religious barriers, particularly catholic barrier, were removed. She won’t have to convert unless she wants to.

        Divorce was settled much earlier though consequences were removed much later. Princess Michael was a divorced woman when she married Prince Michael in the 1970s. Anne and Charles, being divorces themselves, were allowed to marry divorced partners without consequences.

        Living together for some time before marriage was a barrier breached with Sophie & Edward as well as Kate & William.

      • notasugarhere says:

        Her religion is unknown. She attended a Catholic school for 6 years, but many non-Catholics send their kids to Catholic school. Her father is Jewish, I think her mother’s religion is also unknown.

      • Maria says:

        LAK, I get it, but doesn’t the COE support organizations such as WorldVision? It don’t think it is limited to a certain denomination. But if it is, there shouldn’t be a reason why Meghan shouldn’t then represent one of their organizations. But I have noticed, that the Royal Family seems to stay away from identifying with any particular religion In their charity work.
        So then Meghan should she marry Harry would have to take classes in the Church of England faith? Am I right? I guess the first class would cover the origins of the COE. Well, it turns out, it was established by a king in order to obtain a divorce from his wife, and marry his sweetheart whom later on he sent to the tower. Wow, this is heady Christian stuff.

      • LAK says:

        Maria: For marriage, religion is not a problem anymore so she doesn’t have to convert in order to marry Harry especially since he isn’t going to be head of the church.

        Christianity doesn’t automatically mean CoE. Christianity means Catholicism or Protestatism. Each type of strain of Christianity has many sects therein such that an organisation labelling itself as ‘Christian’ could mean anything depending on sect and strain and sometimes countries.

        ETA: Just googled the organisation, and as far as i can tell, it’s a USA Christian organisation, therefore not CoE. Doesn’t mean CoE can’t be involved, but i think it’s unlikely.

    • Maria says:

      What about their children? Would they have to be brought up in the Aglican faith. I guess it does’t matter,at this point.

      • LAK says:

        It doesn’t matter anymore, BUT being so close to the throne and not rocking any boats, the children should be raised CoE.

        That’s how some of the Duke of Kent’s grandchildren were raised. The parents (his son and heir) converted to Catholicism, but raised their 3 kids as CoE. In adulthood, 2 of those kids converted to Catholicism and one remains CoE.

        Ditto Princess Michael raising her kids CoE despite being catholic herself and not converting to marry her prince.

        In the past, all catholics were banned from the line of succession such that all these Catholic conversions were automatically out of the line. Now that the law was reversed, they are all back in the line.

      • HappyMom says:

        COE and RC are so similar-unless she’s super religious I wouldn’t think she’d care about “converting” or raising their family Anglican.

    • Maria says:

      Wha about their children? Would they have to be brought up in the Aglican faith. I guess it does’t matter,at this point.

  20. Spiderpig says:

    This is very random but I think Harry looks exactly like this actor I know, Adam James. Anyone know who I mean? He’s not famous but he’s been in tons of Brit telly.

    Bodes well for when I’m commissioned to write the trashy Lifetime biopic, which I would totes do.

    • Citresse says:

      No, I don’t know Adam James but then I’m on the other side of the pond.
      When Harry was younger I used to think he looked much like the son of the late Farrah Fawcett. I think his name is Redmond.

  21. Cherbear says:

    Ha! I got married at Round Hill in Jamaica, too. Our 12 year anniversary is in June.

    The description of the reception is spot on! Jerk chicken, everyone dancing like fools and being ‘very drunk.’ 😂

    I’m sure they had a great time! Sorta jealous…

    • BearcatLawyer says:

      Happy anniversary! I have also stayed there several times, and it is not as pricey as the article makes it sound. 5000 pounds to rent out an entire five bedroom villa perhaps but not a single room. From a security perspective though, it makes perfect sense. Round Hill is certainly isolated enough from the hustle and bustle of Montego Bay.

      Side notes: Round Hill’s Villa 12 – one of my favourites – is where Oscar Hammerstein II lived and wrote some of the lyrics to “The Sound of Music.” Early one morning I was sitting out by this villa’s pool and heard tinkly little bells in the distance. I looked up and saw a goatherd leading his flock up a mountain. I immediately started singing in my head, “High on a hill is a lonely goatherd…”

      Villa 10 is where JFK and Jackie honeymooned. Ralph Lauren and his family as well as many high profile Jamaicans also have villas there.

      The Wednesday night beach barbecue is worth every last penny. Fun ^ nth power!

      • BearcatLawyer says:

        I forgot to mention…the last time I stayed in Villa 12 there was a very satiric painting of the British Royal Family hanging in the TV room. Each member’s head was different kind of fruit. I wonder if Harry saw it?!?

      • Antonym says:

        Yodel, yodel-le-hee hoo

    • graymatters says:

      I’d like to see that painting! Do you remember any of the specific fruit? Was Andrew’s head a mango, for instance?

  22. Kitty says:

    When Harry finds the one and gets married I hope he has Duke of Clarence. Can you imagined the media making fun of susSEX?

    • Cee says:

      ITA Kitty. Just like they played on York to call Sarah The Duchess of Pork.

    • Maria says:

      Wasn’t the last duke of Clarence a rather shady character who visited brothels? I believe he was in line for the throne, but died of pneumonia at a young age. He was engaged to Princess Mary of Teck, who promptly became engaged to brother George who later became George V.

      • LAK says:

        Albert Victor wasn’t shady though a cottage industry has grown up around him that implies he was despite evidence to the contrary.

        As for visiting brothels, rare is the gentleman in that era who didn’t visit brothels and prostitutes, so we can’t single him out without judging entire society.

      • spidey says:

        And another Duke of Clarence ended up head down in a barrel of Malmesey wine having changed sides one time too many in the Wars of the Roses.

      • Tina says:

        There were rumours that Albert Victor was Jack the Ripper but those have been largely debunked. I just don’t like the idea of three DoCs floating around (Cornwall, Cambridge, Clarence).

      • LAK says:

        Spidey: That barrel of malmesey wine was made up by Shakespeare. It’s not fact. Makes for a more sensational plot point, but not actually true.

        There is alot that people take as fact about the war of the roses which is Tudor/ Shakespearean invention for their propaganda machine to justify their reign.

    • Spiderpig says:

      He’s probably already found the one.

      Even if she’s not, you’d hate the next girl just as much.

    • Merritt says:

      Prince Edward is the Earl of Wessex. Would it really be that different? The press always comes up with stupid nicknames for people anyway.

    • Tina says:

      No one in the UK would make fun of Sussex. It’s a very common everyday word.

  23. Allyson says:

    So they sat Harry and Meghan beside a woman who writes for Daily mail and was a close friend to his ex Cressida and expect him to be happy his new girlfriend is chatting happily to her…? He looked like he was over the paparazzi and wanted his girlfriend to himself and not sharing her with the lady on the end…Can’t go by still photos,they always lie.

    • HappyMom says:

      Plus-it could be 45 seconds of pictures. Not exactly an accurate representation of anything.

    • Maria says:

      Was that really a reporter who sat with them? No wonder Harry looked so miffed. Meghan was calming him down. And that minister, WTF?

    • Mousyb says:

      Huh? They let a daily mail reporter at their wedding??

  24. Amy says:

    (Again, I’m not THAT Amy, I’m the one from yesterday’s thread – and am starting to feel I should change my name…)

    Holy hell, I thought that thumbnail was Pippa and actually had to go back and check once I started reading the article and realised it wasn’t about her!

    • Cee says:

      Original Amy?

    • Ollie says:

      she really looks like Pippa, they even have similar facial expressions. Don’t know what that says about Harry’s feelings for Pips and Kate. Meghan could easily pass as their prettier little sister.

      Meghan = 80% Pippa + 20% Gina Rodriguez

    • Lorelai says:

      You should change it to:

      “Not THAT Amy”

      which would be hilarious and avoid any confusion : )

  25. Beatrice says:

    If you take a look at the photos of the wedding, available on multiple internet sites, you may notice that most of the brown faces belong to Jamaicans who are working at the event. That in itself is an awkward situation.

    Presumably, most of the guests are known to Harry and not to Meghan. If she appears to be “clingy,” it may be because Harry is the only reason she is a guest at the ceremony, and she feels most comfortable when she is in his direct company. I also suspect that Harry is under the influence of alcohol in these photos, which changes his body language and gait.

    The tabloid press has a long history of quickly building up couples and then slowly tearing them down. Let’s give this relationship the benefit of the doubt and see what happens next!

    • Elaine says:

      How is Meghan being around ‘Brown people’ at their jobs -awkward? She’s bi-racial. Are you suggesting she’s never been around ‘Brown people’ while they are work?

      Having gotten married in Jamaica 6 years ago, how exactly would she have managed that?

      I have no way of knowing your ethnicity, but ‘brown people’ as you call us, are used to being minorities. We will be in mostly ‘white majority’ situations most of our lives. But that’s ok. Because ‘white people’? Are just people.

    • KB says:

      The wedding was probably exactly as white as every room she’s ever been in, in Hollywood.

      • Sheanna says:

        I have been in rooms like this. The sole black person to transcend the “social hierarchy” in the room and it IS awkward and leaves me feeling very conflicted. Its easier when its work related but in large social situations like weddings it does make me wonder about the host. Why am I your only POC guest?

      • Toni says:

        The royal family has black,ancestry…..look up Queen Charlotte…Queen Elkzabethll great great grandmother.

    • BearcatLawyer says:

      Having stayed at Round Hill on several occasions, I can assure you that Meghan would not have felt awkward at all being surrounded by “brown faces” attending to the wedding party and guests. The employees of Round Hill treat everyone like their own family, and after your first visit they all remember you by name. I still exchange Christmas cards with the housekeepers and drivers who took care of me years ago, and I know I am not the only former guest who does so. In all of my trips there I have felt so at home and truly welcome, and I should also point out that I – like Meghan – am only half-white.

      More critically, unlike other resorts in Jamaica, Round Hill encourages guests to give gratuities for exceptional service and runs its own employee credit union. They also prominently display photographs of longtime employees commemorating their decades of service near the main beach bar area, which is notable because the bar is famously decorated with photos of the many celebrities and dignitaries that have vacationed there over the years. From what I gleaned from talking to many of the staff at all levels, Round Hill is considered one of the best employers in Montego Bay, and I believe them.

      • Cherbear says:

        Yes, most of the people who live and work in Jamaica are – as you put it- ‘brown.’ Several of the people that attended my wedding as my GUESTS were also staff at a neighboring property – Tryall – and were also native Jamaicans of African decent, aka ‘brown’. As far as I know, they had a great time and were dancing it up all night, and didn’t appear uncomfortable at all.
        I think it is incredibly condescending to think that Megan would’ve been uncomfortable there as a guest. I also don’t think that Jamaicans view color in the same way that we do in the United States. One of the biggest, richest property owners in the neighboring Tryall club in Jamaica is Lennox Lewis, the African American Boxing champ. I’m sure he wouldn’t have bought a big home there if he felt uncomfortable there.

    • Original T.C. says:

      Sure it would be an awkward if not horrible situation if Meghan was purposely taken to a private club that hired only Brown faces to work as the hired help. Far from it, they were in a majority Black Country, in a plush hotel being served by most likely well paid professional wait staff.

      Why would a world traveler like Meghan find it uncomfortable that these servers were Black anymore than she would be uncomfortable that in Prague her servers are White? I’m pretty sure she expected the staff in Jamaica to be Black…we should stop projecting our racial issues onto Meghan.

  26. Eric says:

    All that matters to Harry is that she will be the Duchess of Sussex minus the “Sus.”

    Don’t pile on. It was there for the taking.

  27. Cee says:

    I hope not. She will be known in the press as the Duchess of Sex, Sexy Meg, etc etc etc

    Isn’t Clarence available?

  28. Joannie says:

    They haven’t been together that long and the pressure to marry by the press etc is great. That in itself would be a turnoff if he’s not ready or sure she ‘s “the one”. Especially when you are at someone else’s wedding the minister says “youre next”. Awkward! Relationships are about timeling. At her age she’s looking for a nest and maybe he just wants to date for fun.

    • KB says:

      I doubt he’d be dating a 35 year old, 36 in a few months, if he weren’t ready to settle down. He dated Cressida for fun, I think he’s past that.

      • Joannie says:

        Who the hell knows! Lots of guys are non committal until their forties. Why does he have to marry her? Who are we to judge another’s timeline? It’s up to him to decide his time, how serious he is and who he marries. His dad was forced. Look how that turned out.

  29. laura says:

    Shes not the one.hollywierd types are looneys.he needs to run fast.

    • notasugarhere says:

      The BRF isn’t exactly a stellar example of family health and wellness.

    • seesittellsit says:

      @laura – hon, if anyone needs to run fast, it’s Markle.

    • Sarah says:

      I don’t think that he is that into her from these pictures, but really. She went to an excellent university, has a career, does charity work. He is a royal, didn’t go to college, never had a real job except military, where he was coddled, and does charity work. Oh, BTW, she is beautiful.

      He is dating WAY above his pay grade.

      • Citresse says:

        Again, I had a feeling before they went to Jamaica the relationship cooled. Harry is not known as an intellectual and I have a feeling Markle needs intellect to sustain a long term relationship. But who knows for sure? Maybe they will get married?

      • notasugarhere says:

        There is a trend of successful woman “marrying down”, although the idea that someone who is not college-educated is “down” offends me. I have several co-workers, multiple college degrees, good careers, who have married men who are handymen or work “in the trades”. The woman earns more, carries the health benefits for the family, and the husband is the one with the flexible hours who shoulders a lot of the child and home care.

  30. Najma Rahemtulla says:

    I feel very sorry for Harry he seems very confused personality,,,Looked up side down whenever I saw his pictures it reminds me his Late mother.

  31. Maryrose says:

    I think the woman who sat down with them was being inappropriate. She how she is leaning forward with her arms close to her body? She may be presenting her girls to the prince. He is looking away and Meg looks startled. I think he is getting mad and she is rubbing his back to calm him. Then he jumps up to complain, I’m guessing, and she is trying to get him to forget it and have a good time. I think they are showing tremendous intimacy, and she is reading him like a book.

    • Sarah says:

      That is a completely fictional account!! It’s funny, but seems to be the least likely explanation for what is happening.

  32. Nimbolicious says:

    I don’t doubt they’ll marry, but I do doubt that the marriage will last.

  33. Jerkface says:

    I am the duchess of cake and whisky.

  34. smh says:

    I hope they do marry just to piss the people who hate them for no reason

  35. Niset says:

    No pedigree. Cressida Bonas would have felt more at home with His friends who come from the same background and upbringing.

    • notasugarhere says:

      They are humans, not show dogs.

      Tim Laurence, Sophie Rhys-Jones, Autumn Kelly, Mike Tindall, Kate Middleton, Gary Lewis, Duchess of Gloucester. Just a few members of the family without your offensive “pedigree”.

    • Jessica says:

      She went to one of the top private schools in LA; she also went to Northwestern. I’m sure she’s comfortable around the ‘upper-socioeconomic class’ just fine.

  36. Herladyship says:

    So he would become a duke, but Prince Edward is an earl? That’s always confused me.

    • notasugarhere says:

      Edward choose to be the Earl of Wessex, because he liked the name Wessex in the movie Shakespeare in Love. When Prince Philip passes away, Edward is to be named Duke of Edinburgh. It is not an inherited title, the monarch will have to make him the DoE.

      • herladyship says:

        That clears it up. Thanks!!

      • Maria says:

        So, when Phillip dies, Edward will be named DOE, so then his son becomes Earl of Wessex?
        Another question, how do they pick dukes? And how do they choose names for dukes.? I mean, there is a Duke of Cambridge, but is there a Duke of Oxford? Dumb questions, you can tell I am not a Brit, and I don’t really get all these titles.

      • Tina says:

        They may allow James (Edward’s son) to use Earl of Wessex as a courtesy title when Edward becomes Duke of Edinburgh, but he will not technically inherit the title until Edward dies. (At present, James uses Viscount Severn as a courtesy title, which is one of Edward’s titles).

        There is an Earl of Oxford & Asquith (known as Lord Oxford). You won’t see a separate creation for a dukedom of Oxford, it would be too confusing (she says, ironically).

      • Tina says:

        As for your other question, there will continue to be royal Dukes created, certainly. When George gets married he will be created a Duke. Which dukedom it is will depend on which ones are available (there are lists of royal dukedoms, just google them). The royals are unlikely to create a brand new dukedom, they will prefer to recreate an old one, but they won’t go near dukedoms that have been suspended due to Germanness (Albany, Cumberland), or of a place in Ireland (Connaught).

        However, the last non-royal duke was created in 1900 and there are famously only 24 of them around. The Queen offered Churchill a dukedom in 1955 but he turned it down as he wanted to spend his last days in the House of Commons (sniff). I can’t see any new non-royal dukedoms being created, unless a PM saves us from nuclear war or something.

  37. Francesca says:

    It will never happen. The Queen will never allow him, to marry her!

    • notasugarhere says:

      Of course she would allow it, if the couple decided they wanted to marry. It is 2017 not 1817.

    • Jessica says:

      The Queen has yet to turn down a marriage proposal since Princess Margaret. If they get married she’ll probably still be alive when they divorce.

  38. WendyNerd says:

    Not sure why, but for some reason I thought they’d get Clarence.

  39. Starlight says:

    I got my head around the body expert, I suppose basically hinting she is more interested than him. Can’t be a bad thing sounds like his brother so if it’s going to kick off then hopefully the paps will get an exclusive soon. He did shave his chest!!! Goodness knows why, is that the fashion in LA it seems pretty desperate for a rugged ex army posh bloke used to getting dusty in the safari wilderness. She will be seriously heartbroken if hairless doesn’t make her Duchess of Sussex.

  40. Princess says:

    Harry could also become the Duke of Clarence, I quite like the sound of that. I don’t mind Duke of Windsor either, as that is available but we all know why that will never happen