While I await the release of St. Patrick’s Day photos of the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge’s Irish Guards shamrock thing, please enjoy this story. As we now know, Prince William’s four-day Verbier ski trip has ended up being one gigantic PR mess. Which is no surprise to me, considering William has the PR instincts of a rock and he hires sycophants and Yes Men to work in his press office. So it’s kind of unfair that now Kate is taking a “PR hit” from William’s drunken extravaganza. There are rumors that William was not acting like a married man with this trip, and there might be a “kiss and tell” coming out. So what does Kate really think about all this? Thankfully, Kate’s resident hagiographer Katie Nicholl wrote a story for Vanity Fair yesterday in which she theorized about Kate’s reaction to William’s Verbier shenanigans. My general thought is that Nicholl is a Middleton mouthpiece, and this is aiming to paint Kate as someone in a position to “disapprove.”
One wouldn’t want to be in Prince William’s (dancing) shoes right now. Dubbed “throne idle” in the British press after skipping a Commonwealth Day service earlier this week in order to go skiing with friends, the 34-year-old royal is also understood to be in the dog house with his wife.
Kate is said by Royal Watch sources to be understandably “less than pleased” that her husband has been filmed partying with his friends and an unidentified woman. The new footage, which emerged Wednesday in several tabloids, shows Prince William singing and dancing with friends during a boys-only skiing trip. Shot at the popular Farinet nightclub in Verbier, the video also shows the prince putting his hand on the waist of a mystery woman.
“It was William’s choice to go away, but make no mistake Kate wears the trousers in their marriage, and she won’t be happy with William’s antics. She thought his partying days and larking around with the boys was a thing of the past. I imagine she’ll find this humiliating and William will have come in for a pasting,” says a source.
Last February, the Cambridges posed on the slopes of Courchevel where they enjoyed their first family ski holiday with George and Charlotte. This year, in contrast, William opted to hit the slopes solo with a group of male friends who included Guy Pelly, James Meade, and Tom Van Straubenzee. Kate, who’s not a big drinker, is apparently not the only wife said to be annoyed. Guy Pelly, whose other half, Lizzie Wilson, is about to give birth, is according to a source also “in deep trouble.”
One, I hate the “lads will be lads” vibe of this because it furthers William’s “I’m just a normal bloke” thing. He’s not a normal bloke, and this isn’t just some bloke’s wife being super-mad that he drank a case of beer while watching the game. As for whether Kate is truly “less than pleased” – I believe that she’s displeased. Many of you have said this week that Kate is used to William cheating on her because he was unfaithful throughout their decade together pre-marriage (The Waity Years). I believe that she’s “put up” with a lot, but I also believe this is something different, because William is being SO blatant and public about it.
The Daily Mail’s Jan Moir has a cloying piece about Kate as well, and how William has made Kate look like “a dull afterthought” (cough) and poor Kate’s fairy tale is ruined by William’s loutish behavior. Which is true, but… are we saying that Kate believed the fairy tale? I think Kate lost her fairy tale ideals long ago, because she had to put up with so much while she had her eye on the prize: becoming a princess. And here’s an uncomfortable opinion: what I’ve always thought about Kate is that she believes that if worse comes to worst, she’ll be able to play the victim like Diana did and get the people on her side. But as we know, she’s no Diana. And I suspect that if worse comes to worst, people really aren’t going to be that sympathetic to either of them.
Photos courtesy of WENN, Pacific Coast News.
The people on the DM kiss his a$$ in the comment sections. I just don’t understand royalists.
Not true, a lot of them have ben totally laying into him.
Compared to the optics of last years ski trip, this really is a stark contrast, isn’t it? It’s like last year we got a taste of what Kate wants us to believe about their family, and this year we see how it really is. Idk, I thought this would be one of those stories that would just blow over eventually, but it seems like something serious might come of this. Damn.
That in part that has to do with the press. They are a bit like a dog with a bone over it. There are 3 outlets so far that has gotten exclusives on videos/photos: The Sun, TMZ and the Fail. That indicates that there is a bigger story, a story that’s more than drunken dancing and harmless flirting. Plus there is the resentment that he (and her) have built up with the press, esp the UK media. They dislike him as much as he dislikes them.
On top of all that, there is the fact that Granny and Dad have not even bothered to cover this up, they’ve been covering up his indiscretions for years. Its very very telling that they haven’t – this is their dysfunctional way of disciplining him.
It’s incredible that neither Grannie nor Daddy has killed this story yet.
They’ve blocked Harry and Princess Sparkle’s balcony pictures being published, and that’s a rare thing in defending the spare over the heir. Exception Andrew, but as well know, that’s a special case.
Lol @ Princess Sparkle.
@LAK – Blocking the Harry/Meghan photos makes me think that there could be plans going on to prep Harry for Kingship. It feels like William has pushed Granny and Dad too far and the Commonwealth Day event was the last straw. It could be that they are going to try and make William walk away of his own accord, pushing him out would be a battle. But maybe am reading to much into it.
The press has some doozies. “Cannonball of cringe” is genius!!
It’s been no secret that the Queen prefers Harry. The Monarchy might protect William (up until now… perhaps) but the Queen has given Harry a RVO (unlike William who got his Orders because of his position as Charles’ Heir) and free reign to set up his charities. She even shows up to support him.
I was thinking that maybe Gran and Chaz have actually tried but 1) he was just too damn public about it and 2) the press is over it. It used to be tit for tat, no? Or at least there was an understanding of whatever nature that certain things would not be published. The palace had some clout. But there’s no upside for the UK press to do that anymore. The kids are almost never brought out for cute pictures and if they are, half of these pics are released on Twitter. The Cambridges just don’t work enough to supply the press with those stories either. They’re too damn boring and crusty about the entire thing so why bother? And TMZ wouldn’t care anyway.
Littlemissnaughty: Grannie managed to pull Andrew’s scandal with his pedo friend in 3 days.
The story broke on a sunday worldwide, and by wednesday, 3 days later, was gone. No commentary from any media source, no companion op-eds, no columnists.
Gossip blogs on the internet might mention it and internet commentors occassionally talk about it, and whilst the internet links haven’t been removed, you won’t find any discussion or rehash of it from the POV of Andrew.
Every time it appears, having been framed slightly differently, it disappears immediately with no traction from the media.
That demonstrates what can be accomplished when Grannie wants something.
I think your point 2 is the reason as well as Grannie and Daddy being over it.
LAK, I have no doubt that Grannie knows how to make stories disappear. But honestly, who cares that much about Andrew? Will’s antics were much easier to cover up when he was younger. A lot less was expected of him and they had Harry cast as the problematic one anyway. But these days Harry is looking pretty good and the Cambridges are definitely not looking good. At all. The press tried. To make Kate into a damn style icon, to cast them as the sytlish next chapter, the young and attractive next chapter. Well, that did not work. Then the kids came. And went. The Queen is seriously getting up there and won’t be around forever. And we know that Charles has a lot less influence with the press. Man, he must be so p*ssed off. The work he put into making everyone love him and Cam. And then the 35 year old man child goes rogue.
Many people cared that the unpopular royal “international business” advisor was caught being friends with a pedophile, and caught having sex with an underage girl who may or may not have been a sex slave. HM scrubbed it all away and gave him a new promotion. She’s choosing *not* to scrub this one away.
The point isn’t whether any one cares about Andrew, but her ability to remove a story from the media when she wants to do it.
William has many, many stories that were similarly killed. Or Harry was used as the decoy story such that William didn’t look so bad in comparison.
This is the first time the UK media and especially, Grannie / Daddy, has not killed a naughty William story, and it’s unprecedented.
William, not realising the level of protection he enjoys, thought he was teflon and or possibly doesn’t appreciate that everyone has reached the end of their tether with him and so are enjoying this press take down despite the actual offence being mild compared to his father/uncles/brother’s offences.
I think it’s great Elizabeth and Charles haven’t stepped in. Let William really see how much he’s protected by the influence and power of his father and grandmother, and how much he lacks this kind of influence and skill when it comes to the press.
Ooh, I love this whole thing. I am now thinking of HM as Grannie from the Americans. All hail Margo Martindale.
Here for Princess Sparkle, too! Well done, LAK
Last year’s cheesy ski trip photos of Kate dusting W with snow as a show of cutesy wifely teasing was cringeworthy. I don’t think they are that happy with each other. But she has Carole and he can escape to his aging Peter Pan lad friends.
Good point Shambles!
Kate and Wills won’t be a good Queen Consort and King but maybe the UK deserves that for treating him with kid gloves.
The “treating with kid gloves” continues a long and honorable tradition not only on the part of the BRF, but most of the others, as well. Goes with the territory.
She looks so fake in those pictures! She really doesn’t come across as genuine, the way Diana did.
And yeah, I hate the whole typical british mentality of “lads will be lads.” Bull sh!t. Stop with that. Don’t be a d!ck head and cheat on your partner. It’s like he doesn’t know how to be a gentleman. He doesn’t seem to be surrounded by many.
I don’t think it is a ‘typical British mentality’ that justifies bad behaviour and cheating spouses!. Certainly it is played up in some circles and by some media outlets – but in my experience it is not typical.
As far as I’m concerned, the whole ‘lad’ thing is kind of similar to the ‘frat boy’ thing – most people grow out of it, and manage to socialise with their friends (male and female), without being assholes.
William’s binge drinking is a problem. It should not be brushed off as “lads will be lads.”
Of course it will bother her – its all over the press. Its often been said she turns a blind eye if he’s discreet and only reacts when its all over the news. Saying that Tanna said in his tweets yesterday that Kate would ignore it but Carole wouldn’t.
Its the video clips that I want to see, they tend to paint a truer picture of whats happening. William isn’t as good as Kate at hiding his emotions.
Either way I’m looking forward to the Sunday press to read about the most boring and bland kiss and tell ever! He looks like a 2 pumps and a squirt kinda guy. LOL. I’m a mean person, i know.
2 pumps and squirt. Lol lol lol.
2 pumps and squirt!!! I’m going to be saying that all day ROFL
That’s assuming that the Middletons aren’t behind the leaks in the first place, though.
Kate will turn a blind eye. She doesn’t want to lose her royal status, the HRH style, the deference and all the perks of royal life. She is not different from royal spouses confronted to similar cases. Some years ago, Fred of Denmark was filmed in similar circumstances, dancing verrrrrry close to a blonde woman who was definitely not his brunette Australian wife. It was later said the woman was ‘a longtime friend of his and his wife’ though she has never been seen with them either before and after that incident . To this day he is still married.
This. Fred of Denmark is a 🐶 d-o-g
LMAO. Two pumps and a squirt sounds like the directions on the back of hair conditioner! Eww, I just grossed myself out.
Hahaha…we call them “two pump Pete’s”…the WORST!! lol
I’ve recently heard the expression, “two pump chump”. Probably apt.
lol! We used to call it Two Oohs and an Ahh! But yours is better.
“Two ohs and an aww!!” lol
That Daily Mail piece is pretty scathing and quite funny. Poor Kate! Sad!
I dunno, I just don’t think this is a big deal, yet. He looks like a drunk doofus dancing by himself, I’m waiting on more evidence before I brand him an alcoholic cheater.
Same here. If there was anything more it would have gotten out by now. I tend to think the most salacious thing that happened was him high-fiving that topless selfie girl. After galumphing alone around the dance floor, he probably stumbled back to his three-thousand dollar a night ski lodge, puked, and passed out fully clothed on the sofa. Alone. Then woke up with a hangover and found that Guy Pelly had drawn a mustache on him with a sharpie whilst he slept.
Lol! Exactly!
I laughed at this and I think you are right. Not to say, he doesn’t look like an ass ’cause he does.
For me the issue is less the trip; that’s his and his wife’s business, really. It’s missing something because he wouldn’t cut it short to support his grandmother.
Its not as if he cut it short – he returned home on Monday afternoon, all he needed to do was get an earlier flight and go straight to the event. You know I wouldn’t be surprised if he was supposed to turn up and then pulled at the last min due to a massive hangover.
That’s what I meant. He *didn’t* cut it short to be at the service. Apparently getting a few more runs in was more important.
+ 1,000 It shows such a sense of entitlement!
Surely the Queen had enough support from RF members and didn’t really need William and Kate to be there. I think they were both let off as they were due to have a couple of important upcoming engagements.
Surely William should know by now that as the third ranked royal in the land, he is supposed to put his job above his jolly weekends with the lads.
The frosting on the Workshy McDouchebro crap cake: His own Uncle was also at Verbier at the same time.
Uncle Andrew, sixth in line to the throne, managed to get a flight back to London in time for the Commonwealth Day service and show up suited and booted.
If he can manage to part with the charms of Verbier to show a united front with The Firm, then why can’t the 2nd in line to the throne?
I feel that this is a question many members of the public, and the press, are/or ought to be asking.
No-I don’t think he’s an alcoholic, or a cheater-but missing Commonwealth Day and continuing to be work shy is the bigger deal.
Does his behaviour suggest a monogamous guy to you? His history suggests otherwise.
@hmmm-all I see is a drunk guy dancing and talking to some women in a club that looks like it’s in someone’s basement. Do we see him making out with her? No. And honestly, if he’s cheating on her-that’s between he and Kate. I think his bigger issue is shirking his responsibilities to the Queen and doing his job.
The only cheating I’ve ever heard of him doing is in comments on sites like this one, people assume he does and treat him accordingly, not saying he doesn’t, I have no real idea. I’ve just never seen it, and I’m genuinely asking if there is any hard evidence? Of course he’s lazy and ditches his royal duties more often than not, and the taxpayers are stuck paying for it, which is bs, but that’s another issue!
I do believe the not so crazy conspiracy theory that these videos are out there with the Palace’s wishes because there is something larger. Normally William would be pitching an absolute fit at something like this – he has for far smaller things. We’re meant to think “oh, just a fun boys trip where he’s dancing like a drunken fool. So normal, blah, blah, blah.”
This. Still no word about Topless Selfie chick’s “missing” mobile phone.
Or how/why it’s missing.
Was it confiscated?
Was it left under Wills’ bed?
We’ll probably never know, but if it answers do come out the schadenfreude is going to be glorious.
Agree. He went out drinking. He danced. Maybe he spoke with members of the opposite sex. Kate should try kicking back sometime, too. She seems wound very tightly. I don’t subscribe to the whole royalty thing, so to me they’re just people. Perhaps not happily married people, but people all the same. And yes, I pay VAT.
I just think they are both equally useless and should be excised from public life. I suppose I really only consider the state of their marriage if a) it increases the possibility of said excision, and b) I am a bad woman who enjoys sniggering at people I don’t like.
Well, I’ll join the ‘Bad woman Who Likes Sniggering at People I Don’t Like’ Club because these two are fucking useless.
I attempt to not snigger – but these two are hilarious. I want to be a part of the laughter and fun and I’m pretty good at a party…
So do I get to be a bad woman because I enjoy sniggering at royals ?
There are simply too many rules to pay attention to!
:passes the ‘bad person petty party popcorn’ to wolfpup:
I will join the BWWLSAP Auxiliary too!
I’ll be the WI (women’s institution) division.
Awesome! You’ll be in charge of the cake!
I’ll be in charge of the bubbly!
Yep, I’m in. BWWLSAPIDL Club is us
Yay! It’s a new club!
We need secret code.
Count me in!! We can have a dance party and flip our skirts up over our heads!!
And a signature dessert. Creampuffs with a sour lemon filling? Pretty petit fours that look good but hide awful surprise flavors like Bertie Bott’s Beans?
Scratch that, I want the dessert to be tasty. Meow.
Can I join? And I would LOVE chutney in honor of Kate!!
I figured out the secret code, bluhare – being Hahaha! – haha! – and then again, Ha! – with a belly-laugh, enjoying!
You marry for money you earn every cent!!
I feel badly for her and then I think about how she clung on waiting for the ring despite EVERYTHING and then I don’t anymore.
Don’t feel the least sorry for her or her idiot husband. From the beginning she made it clear she hates working and is only interested in the financial perks, dressing up, and couldn’t care less about contributing anything of substance to the RF.
She could have married a dozen men for money from St. Andrews. This was about social status – something her mother was obsessed with. Similar price to pay, though . . .
I am continually baffled why she didn’t find someone fun, rich, and not an utter doofus at St. Andrews. I guess mom had a plan. BTW, I know that I am not adding anything new to the conversation. Just upvoting previous comments.
Jessica I don’t think she would have had her pick of those men, they probably wanted someone a little more lively and charming themselves. At least the doofus she ended up with is a royal, that’s like the gold standard of doofus landing.
@ Meow Unless he is a 92 year old millionaire with one foot in the grave and the other on a bar of soap. 🙂
She loved him. He was adorable back then.
I used to be a supporter of the British monarchy but I can’t take them seriously anymore. The young royals are really more like celebrities and I don’t think UK citizens should pay the bills for unemployed celebs.
Amen to that.
UK citizens AND Commonwealth citizens pay their bills. I’m with you, Sarah. I’ve been a royalist as long as I’ve been alive (63) because I’ve had ONE Queen, and my mum adored her. I’m not impressed with the idea of Queen Camilla, and even less impressed with the idea of King Willy Wonky. I’ll be encouraging my federal policiticans to consider breaking up with Britian. Royalexit …. it begins as soon as Her Majesty passes.
@Shirleygail
Hear! Hear! I’m down with Rexit, tbh. The fact that the Palace is getting £350 million for repairs and the schools and the NHS are crumbling due to lack of funding really is unfair. Not to mention benefits being cut and driving people to suicide.
They are treated like celebrities because of all this crazy social media. It was easy for the Queen to look regal all the time because there was no social media and the public were more deferential.
Right, and the changes you mention mean they’ve surely outlived their purpose, which is of a different era.
W&K act like celebrities so they are treated like them. Social media isn’t the cause of their selfish, tone-deaf, 1 percenters behavior.
I start to think PW’s goal is to destroy the monarchy. It’s quite obvious that he doesn’t want to be king and that he hates to attend royal duties.
Does it seem like an actual deliberate goal, though? Is he even thoughtful or deep enough to have that? It seems more like he wants to have his cake and eat it too — enjoy privilege but not work for it.
Gosh, that source sounds like Carole, doesn’t it ? I think Nicholl is still in contact with the family. I also hate this “lads will be lads” spin by the sugars (they can spin anything!), it perpetuates the belief that a married man, let alone an heir who skipped an engagement, can do anything without any criticism. If that was Kate standing there partying it up with unknown men, both sugars and critics would explode. Lads will be lads, my foot!
It prob is Carole – she control the media image/access for the Mids and Kate. Katie Nichols works for the Fail who’s Editor in Chief (right wing asshat Paul Dacre) is a Middleton family friends. They have always been ‘nice’ to Kate and her family.
There always seems to have been an unofficial statement by the Midds in response to any NormalBill scandal or rumour. The Waity Years were peak Midd propaganda but we’ll see more of it because Pippa is marrying Terribly Rich( but then he isn’t thirsty like Nico was so maybe not).
How can Carole control the media image/access rights for the wife of the second in line to the throne?
I don’t understand why anyone would think Carole leaked this story. Doesn’t it appear to be very hurtful to her daughter?
Forgive my ignorance, but who are these “sugars” of whom you speak? I keep hearing the word being bandied about and became very curious.
Sugars = super fans who idolise the subject of their adoration. Will brook no alternative view which they view as alt-facts spewed by jealous people who hate their idol.
“lads will be lads” mentality got the orange pu$$ygrabber elected as President of the USA
Nope, “special snowflake” syndrome got Trump elected. People who go to work every day, try to do the right thing, and mind their own business got sick and tired of those who demand the world because they’re so damn special but contribute not one thing to society, the economy, or civility.
That’s what got Trump elected.
@Kate: what in the world are you going on about? That makes NO sense.
Hey, Kate, you got that totally backwards.
Red staters voted for a pussy grabbing, bankrupt lying bigoted sexist racist jerk because most of them hate darker people.
And BTW, the blue states contribute almost twice as much to the economy than the red states, so we work a lot more than Trumpers.
Another poorly educated Trump voter. Sad!
I thought Diana received a “you know, Charles is a normal guy and he’s rich and he’s hardly expected to be faithful! What a naive little virgin you are!” lecture right before what she had thought was a love-match wedding? (Go, Kate)
You are sad, Sarah.
I imagine Kate is extremely pissed at him. Their children will read about this someday.
@Bear Which makes William even more of a cad. He didn’t appreciate his parents affairs being splashed all over the tabs, yet he is humiliating his kids in the same way.
The kids must also notice that he isn’t around as much as their mother either. And it isn’t even for work reasons.
I reckon those kids will despise both their parents in short order, with good cause.
Geez……this is all such an over reaction. William went on a boys skiing trip and let off some steam. How do we know it was not without Kate’s blessing? The only problem were the leaked pics and video but i am pretty sure that William knew pics would get out. Would there have been this outcry if it was a simple fishing trip and not posh Verbier?
Let of steam from what, his precious taxpayer-funded life where never works any job more than 10 hours per week? Would he still have blown off the Commonwealth trip for fishing? Two issues here – partying away from wife like a single man and lying to get out of duties (his PR apparently said he was at EAAA) – neither of which looks good.
I agree with the less than pleased he was caught on camera part. She didn’t care what he did as long as he didn’t embarrass her. These videos (even if nothing happened) still look bad, which she will care about- not if he cheated.
As for her wearing the pants – not a chance. Carole has more say in it then she does. It’s her he’ll get a bollicking from not Kate.
As for if she’ll be able to play the victim no I don’t think so. From the engagement we were told how she was going in with her eyes open. Will said he waited so long so she’d be ready. No way will she be able to play the poor helpless victim and leaking that she’s in charge won’t help either. Not to mention she doesn’t have the love that people had for Diana.
Agree 100%. Kate simply has no warmth and is dull, dull, dull. In that regard, she is the polar opposite of Diana. What has Kate done to endear herself to the public? Nothing. Just a series of half-arsed appearances she can’t get away from quick enough, grotesque grins, and on the rare occasions she speaks, is embarrassingly inarticulate and barely understood because of her contrived accent.
Kate sounds more posh than HM. It’s stupid. That interview about her chutney, geez.
I wonder what Queen Carole is saying about all of this. Is she scolding Willy for his behaviour or just telling Waity to ignore and look the other way? I’d love to know her reactions to the headlines of the last few days.
She’ll just want to protect her investment, that’s all.
addie, You called it exactly right. That’s basically what Carole cares about. Protecting her years of investment, “William.”
So Kate wears the jeggings in that family, eh?
That surprised me too. I thought she was a doormat.
That was the funniest bit of her article for me
That was also the story out of their first Canada tour, plus stories for years of her treatment of other women, staff, the Yorks. His complaints about her controlling behavior were leaked by his friends around their many breakups, cited as the reason for their public fights, plus his dancing on the table screaming “Free at Last!”
I think neither of them is an easy person to live with. She’s controlling and wants what she wants (image, position, fame), he hates being under anyone’s thumb and wants what he wants (to live life as a bachelor under the veneer of Happy Families).
Carole is there to keep the peace and patch things up because she wants the status of being his MIL, but that cannot work forever.
I don’t think he even wants to live under the happy family facade – I think he just wants to live the life of a party frat boy. Many people close to him, family and friends, expressed surprised when he got married. Many said that they never expected him to settle down. He only did it under pressure from his own and her family.
The marriage will go the same way his fathers did and will end in tears.
Being criticized in the press for stringing her along for a decade didn’t help. HM had serious doubts about non-working KM and the Middletons, it will all end in tears. I doubt Charles would pressure him to marry someone he didn’t love. He would pressure him to cut her off if he wasn’t going to marry her, as his own father did to him.
I think William wanted to keep Mummy Carole and that meant marriage. The Middletons always enabled the facade while desperately wanting it to lead to marriage. The massive security upgrades at the Middletons new house (from the taxpayers) meant KM could be at mummy’s while William was elsewhere doing whatever. Similar to the Wales arrangement, where he was barely working and often gone. She was only papped a few times in Wales while being in London 3 days a week. The plan to be at her parents for months after the birth of the first child, etc.
I also think he figured marriage was a dodge to avoid the increasing pressures that he become a full-time working royal. Marriage meant he would play years of “we must not work and we must live in the country to protect the children” games. And those games gave him another 5+ years of not really working.
I think the worst part for KM is that W’s drunken ski trip/apres ski behavior shines a light on the reality of their less than perfect marriage.
Well William should be pleased that Kate hung around because nobody else he approached wanted to marry him and so he went back to Kate.
If he was pleased to be married to her, he wouldn’t spend all this time away from her and the kids, talk about struggling with being a husband and father, be away from her for 6 months after the birth of their son (by her own words), her basically at mummy’s most of the time, him off doing whatever he wants, be with Jecca instead of with the family for big events (first family vacation, first Easter).
As Betti said, not even his family expected him to ever marry because he never wanted to. He married her family, not her, because of pressure. That cannot end well. Especially since he’s blowing the image Carole has crafted for so long.
I just can’t imagine Wills being king one day. He hates this job.
Duchess Kate is “less than pleased” with his shenanigans about as much as I am “less than pleased” with the turd my dog did in my bedroom.
Honestly I would take that turd over throne idle Will any day. It is bound to have more get up and go than him.
And dogs are cuter, more loyal, and easier to train than princes.
There really isn’t all that much difference between Wills and a dog turd. But the turd is probably more interesting. And I’d much rather find a dog turd in my bedroom than the him. 😉
This came up a bit yesterday, but it’s amazing how crappy that nightclub looks. That’s something I’ve always wondered about – the people that stay in the ultra exclusive destinations and frequent the ultra exclusive establishments are generally the rich, but there doesn’t tend to be a lot of crossover with “young and cool”.
That night club looked super lame!
I think it is an issue of it catering to an economic elite rather than a cultural elite. It is def not for the set of sophisticated taste-makers.
I just think it’s funny, because these guys are sold as jet setters, and of course Guy Pelly and his supposedly super cool nightclubs, but no one really thinks about the fact that it’s basically just another lame hotel nightclub. Can you imagine how uncool their house parties are?
No, these people aren’t cool. That isn’t how cool works. You want to find cool? Go to a neighborhood, in a big city, that’s just on the edge of gentrification. Its an interesting progression.
Take a poor neighborhood, mix in art kids and club kids who are determined to refashion life on their own terms, taking warehouses and transforming them into lofts that will, in 5-10 years sell for millions and millions of dollars (see Soho, Williamsburg etc).
Wills and his ilk purchase what others tell them is cool. They don’t create it, they may not even understand it, but they buy it all they same.
No, these people aren’t cool. Its debatable whether or not one can buy cool. You can wear the cool clothes, put the cool artist on your wall, but…there’s a reason why the word ‘poser’ was invented. Just sayin’ 😉
Yep, “coolness” is the purview of the taste-makers, the people who has cultural capital rather than economic capital.
I just think it’s so funny. These places are supposed to be ultra exclusive and swanky, but it’s just glorified hotel dance club filled with rich tourists (which is pretty much the antithesis of tastemakers). It’s supposed to be this enviable high life, but ultimately not that different from what I could get around here!
I know!
I hope Waity has her own private bank account because Wills would have to pay in cash. And this should be money she keeps secret for her mom and her useless brother.
She’s not that smart.
I know, that’s what makes me sad.
I think she is going to find herself hiding a lot of things from her mother. I mean face it, she can’t trust her mother to have her best interests at heart, just her marriage. Everything she says about Willy, Carol will repeat to him. This marriage could ruin her relationship with her mother.
I do think her mother primarily sees her as the means to an end. That has to be rough, if and when she realizes it.
It’s not about the cheating. It’s about people knowing. Seriously, Will is so f-king dumb. I will say this for Kate —- In this case, she resisted the urge to be papped shopping this time. And seriously, Commonwealth Day? Sure, it’s not a big deal to the average person, but there’s a reason it’s so important to the queen and the BRF, especially in the wake of Brexit. Does Will not know that being Head of the Commonwealth ISN’T a rightful title of the sovereign? This isn’t something like the crown or one of the hereditary duchies— his grandmother is Head of the Commonwealth only by the will of the Commonwealth delegates. She’s held it due to her popularity, devotion, and because she’s shown such respect for the institution. And it’s become such a tentpole! Charles, if he wants that position (and I suspect that he very much does) will have to at least campaign a bit. But the commonwealth is such a huge source of validity for the queen and the RF! Skipping out on something like the Irish Guards was awful, yes, as was missing Christmas, but those titles aren’t going anywhere any time soon. But this position, which is only going to grow in importance for GB and the BRF… That’s dependent on the goodwill of others. And he skips it. I mean, if there’s anything that would make me start suspecting that Will is a closet republican plotting to bring down the monarchy, it’s this. The BRF HAS to care about Commonwealth Day!
I’m not sure Normal Bill realizes that, though. And I’m sure Kate has been “less than pleased” with Will’s behavior for over a decade. That’s not going to make a difference at this point. This is just fluff to garner her sympathy. I almost laughed out loud at the idea that Kate “wears the pants in the relationship”. She doesn’t even wear the UNDERPANTS in this relationship!
This is the guy who approaches the annual Diplomatic Reception as if it is a costume party and then brags about it on national television!
WendyNerd, you hit the nail on the head. He just doesn’t get that both action and inaction have consequences. Unfortunately, he has yet to bear the burden of the consequences of his behavior and choices. I think that’s changing, though. We’ll see.
She is working on wearing the pants and the underpants in the future. Kate or at least Carole do understand who William is: weak and whiney and impulsive and dull and stupid. William isn’t clever enough to pull off such stunts as skipping Commonwealth Day in favour of a party.
Carole sees her chance to enable her daughter to be the ruler in that relationship.
I predict she will NEVER leave him. The social status is just too important. Diana grew up titled and posh, and even for her, walking away from being a potential Queen was difficult. Plus frankly Kate seems like a simpleton; Diana seemed to be a far more complicated person.
I too am surprised how dumpy that nightclub looked. It looked like some dumpy rec room in a basement that someone out fancy lights in.
I did snicker how the DM felt obligated to mention Guy Pelly. It’s always his fault.
Diana didn’t find it difficult. The only thing she found difficult was losing her title because of the impact of her charities. Also no more using Charles bank account for custom made clothes, beauty treatments, vacations, ect… but then again she had all of those things for free after her divorce.
But the £17m settlement might have softened the blow a little.
Well I was reading archives of Diana and her divorce and apparently the authors were saying that amount of money would not be enough for Diana’s lifestyle.
@ Kitty, apparently Charles wanted a clean break rather than annual payments (no doubt subject to revision) and had to borrow the money from The Queen. Of course, he didn’t know at the time that Diana was going to die so soon. So PW and PH inherited money Charles borrowed from his mum!
Okay, so here’s my big question about the potential “end” of the Monarchy in Britain:
WTH happens to the peerage and House of Lords, then?
The whole title thing doesn’t begin and end with the BRF. It’s not like Sweden. Half of Parliament is not made up of elected officials, but of Lords who are titled and appointed to lifelong offices by virtue of birth/title/privilege. Then you have the absurd amounts of money, property, politics tied directly to stuff like duchies, earldoms, etc.
It’s why I’m not so sure getting rid of the RF would be as easy as some believe. When literally half of your legislative body is built on title, birth, and not election, how is it that abolishing the chief system of, well, title, birth, and not an election that the entire House is derived from 1) Can be gotten rid of so easily and 2) Not potentially destabilize and undermine the validity of such a major establishment of the active, constitutional government? Are there contingency measures/plans even drafted for such an occurrence.
Like, to me, (a gauche American who, while a small-r republican who doesn’t believe in monarchy, is still fascinated by it) the House of Lords is like, a WAY bigger strike against principles of democracy and such than a constitutional monarchy on its own. I know, for instance, that Sweden has talked about getting rid of their monarchy once and for all and that the survival of the Bernadottes more or less rest on Victoria, Daniel, and Madeleine’s popularity, but the Swedish systems seems far preferable to me than what Britain has, considering the Riksdag doesn’t have any basis in the peerage left. I’d rather have a singular royal family with no nobility and the actual government made up solely of elected officials than the British system with the RF AND a still-existing aristocracy AND a House of Lords-type institution. And, while I know appointments to the HoL are made by the PM, technically, there’s a reason they’re not considered to be on the same level of the House of Commons and why their structure is title-based.
Yeah, plenty of aristocratic families are impoverished and such, but enough of them are not. Enough of them have properties and fortunes directly tied to the system of aristocracy (see: The Percys). So how can you dismantle the ultimate title system, on the basis of equality, democracy, and dismantling class privilege, without dismantling 1) Basically half the constitutional legislature and 2) Such a huge power structure in the country that encapsulates so much money, land, power, and privilege? How can you keep dukes and baronesses around and valid—- let alone tie such powers to their membership in the legislature— when you’ve just gotten rid of kings and queens?
I always assumed it was stuff like that which has been keeping the RF in place for so long anyways, even through all the upheavals and such. Yeah, the queen is personally popular, but it’s not like that fact isn’t probably helped a great deal by all the powerful people who would have an interest in preserving an institution like the monarchy in the first place.
But seriously: imagining the scenario where Britain cries out “Enough! We’re done!” and ends the monarchy, what is done with the peerage and parliament?
This is one of the reasons why it is highly unlikely that Britain will abolish the monarchy. It is too tightly woven into the fabric of government and there’s a huge part of the political establishment who have a vested interest in preserving it.
I’m Danish and I’ve too find the House of Lords offensive. It is unusual to have a two-chambeer system in a country that isn’t republic made up of several states – like the US or Germany. Denmark had a two-chamber system as well – but it was abolished in 1953 (when Margrethe was made heir over the King’s brother). Furthermore, it is a relic of unjust system of unearned privilege that has no business in a modern democracy.
Currently, the monarchy of Spain is the most unsecure – for two reasons: 1) the most immediate reason is the scandals that haunts several members of the Spanish RF and 2) it is a restored monarchy and those are always more insecure because the people remember a time without it. In France the monarchy was restored more than once in the 19th century but it didn’t survive.
The Swedish monarchy isn’t that secure either. Mostly because the Swedish Parliament has proved, more than once, that it has no compunction in making significant changes to the institution against the monarch’s wishes. Furthermore, it is now a purely ceremonial institution, which makes it easier to abolish without changing foundational legislature. Add to that that the Bernadottes are a fairly new dynasty with NO historical connection to previous Swedish dynasties. That is actually important since they can’t act as the symbol of deep historical continuity that other royal dynasties have. Fx the current Danish royal dynasty, the Glücksborgs, is younger than the Bernadottes but through various cadet brances they have a historical connection to the very institution of the Danish monarch that goes back more than a 1000 years. It is the same with the current British dynasty. They descend from the House of Hannover that was elected as Kings of Britain because they were Protestant and had some drops of Stuart blood (the Stuarts had Tudor blood, the Tudors has Plantagenet blood, etc.).
The Belgian monarchy may also be somewhat unsecure as they are a rather new dynasty as well. Belgium is a fairly new nation/state, created in 1830 and invested with a monarch that came from the House of Saxe-Coburg.
Despite all of this, we have yet to see a monarchy be abolished by peaceful and democratic means. That doesn’t mean that it can’t happen. there’s a first for everything but historically speaking, fallen monarchies have always been the result of massive and violent upheavals – the French Revolution, WWI and WWII, the Spanish Civil War, etc.
Well the Greeks had a coup and ousted the King. Why can’t the Brits do it? By the way, i am interested why does Constantine still refer to himself as King, and his son is Crown Prince?
I do like the House of Lords, tbh, because they tend to act as a buffer between whatever government is in the Parliament and the hairbrained schemes, tbh. They tried to act as a buffer for Brexit, but the MPs pretty much just rolled over and made it pass, so…
Maria,
Not really an equivalent situation to a democratically based abolishment.
Actually it was a series of coups where one was led by the king and a faction of the military. He was deposed by a coup from another military faction that established a military dictatorship. That coup was never about what was best for the people.
The fact that King Constantin supported a military dictatorship by another faction than the one that ousted him was not forgotten by the Greeks when the democracy was reinstated.
Incidentally, the Greek monarchy was also a fairly new institution with a Danish prince being chose for king inthe 1830s after a Bawarian prince had failed as Greek king.
Dodgy,
I’m not opposed to a two-chamber system as such. What I don’t like is that some people inherit seats because they have an aristocratic title. I don’t like unelected people having power in government.
Precisely. Like, is there a European monarchy that has their aristocracy so ingrained in basically every government institution the way Britain does? France didn’t even technically have a proper parliament when they first went down. Legislative groups like the Riksdag have been divorced from any class system for so, so long. Like, if anything, the BRF is likely the least purely-ceremonial monarchy in Europe. And I guess that one of the reasons this hasn’t changed is because enough people assume that the BRF is about as secure as the Bernadottes. But, no. Like, they have far more backing/power/authority than most. People take the “purely figureheads/ceremonial” thing for granted and overestimate it where The Windsors are concerned. I mean there are reasons why things like the Cromwell regime didn’t last past a generation and why most British revolutions have mostly amounted to replacing one king/queen with another rather than doing away with the whole thing altogether. Usually when monarchies fall, they fall HARD from a place of “absolute power” with them being more or less the only class rank establishment to… severed heads. There’s not enough of an alternative power block that needs the traditions of a monarchy to keep them afloat. Of course, that doesn’t make the Windsors themselves invulnerable, like, at all. It’s the institution itself that would be hard to remove. The people themselves…. they’ve been replaced before and they can be again. Especially if their future is just a bunch of stupid shit like this. Enough people may want/need the monarch, but that doesn’t mean they need William to be the face of it. Too bad he seems to conflate his personal importance with the institution itself. It’s clear that he doesn’t realize that’s HE is disposable even if the monarchy isn’t.
Britain is, as far as I know, the only constitutional monarchy where as Coronation is performed on the accession on a new monarch, which IMO has no place in a democratic state even if it does have a monarchy. It absolutely reeks of absolutism and the divine rights of kings, which is doubly ironic since Britain is the only country that successfully avoided the absolutist monarchy in the 17th century.
Wasn’t there a King Simon…Simeon?… of something who ended it all and was then elected PM? From one of the little European countries that might no longer exist or does now but didn’t during the Soviet years? I have very vague memories of a nice looking man in a b&w photo, so within the last century.
This question stumped Oliver Cromwell and his round head parliamentarians.
They couldn’t figure it out, so invited monarchy back.
As opposed to France, the British monarchy is the only one that managed to survive a restoration long term. There’s no set rule – everything comes down to historical circumstance.
Didn’t Oliver Cromwell act as a kind of constitutional monarch in all but name?
i don’t think france is a good example as we have two chambers in parliament too.
kings and emperors didn’t succeed in my country because of struggle between several royal and bourgeois factions, and compromissions from aristocratic elites with powers from abroad (germany,austria) during a 19th century of wars and poor and working classes political rising.
so TPTB adopted a bourgeois republic which supported rich people interests so former elites could fit in.
today the french equivalent of house of lords is the sénat.
it s considered like a luxury retiring house for professional political old people with a lot of privilege and money and a lot of scandals.they are elected for 6 years by mayors,member of parliament…so big parties are sure to win and reward who they want.
so i think it’s the same system with a different form and name so it looks more democratic.
I love you guys. Thank you WendyNerd!
*Curtsies*
The house of Lords has undergone reform which may or may not partially answer the question as far as hereditary Lords who have a seat by virtue of birth, but doesn’t answer the question of unelected representation.
Before 1999, the majority of the people sitting in the house of Lords were there because by virtue of birth. The 1999 reforms chucked most of them out leaving a total of 92 hereditary peers. The number left are elected by other hereditary peers as opposed to the pre- reform era whereby they inheriting their seat by virtue of their ancestors having the seat in the Lords.
As the seats aren’t guaranteed anymore, and can only be acquired by a vote amongst their hereditaty peers, one could say that there is a tiny hope of election within an undemocratic system.
That leaves 668 out of the 760 total members of the House who are appointed by the lower house and or government of the day. Ex-PMs and Cabinet ministers are automatically invited to join the Lords, most have taken up the invitation.
Many MPs retire to the Lords. As the majority of the new members since 1999 are political appointees, there is a real danger of cronyism on an unprecedented scale. The hereditary peers are natural conservatives, but for the most part tend to be neutral about party politics ie they vote with their conscience more than the new members who tend to vote according to the party that gifted them the seat in the Lords.
Recently, it’s been revealed that the house comprises more labour and Liberal Democrat appointed Lords than conservative appointed ones which is seen as a good thing in terms of last bastion of opposition to the Conservative government which is ruling virtually unopposed in the commons.
All of this doesn’t answer the question WendyNerd has asked, but it is a tiny glimmer in a very complex situation surrounding the House of Lords and aristocracy.
760 members of the House of Lords!!!!! That’s a lot of people.
Thank you all for answers to questions I’ve had for years since posting on this site. IMO, the House of Lords has always been a big problem for me, yet sometimes I need to ignore a government which is not my own and consider the US constitution was based on ideas to mitigate such factors as church, state, and officials, in ensuring justice. However, The Donald Trump thing? – – I went to the hills, skies, and Stars, for this.
William and Kate used to be attractive people. She looks so old and he’s definitely not the handsome guy he used to be
The dancing was okay; shouldn’t have touched the girl. I’m calling too much alcohol. This will blow over.
I am sure she is “less than pleased” but I doubt it will make a difference. Whiny has had a lifetime of people pandering to his every whim and is not likely to change now. Kate has been a doormat since she started going out with him so again is unlikely to change.
I can’t see her ever leaving him as she (and Carole) have fought too hard to get the title. The only way they will split up is if he decides to trade her in for a younger model in a few years time.
I can’t believe Carole encouraged her from the beginning to put up with all of his shenanigans. As the mom of a teenage daughter, I cannot imagine EVER saying “keep your eye on the prize.” If I heard that her boyfriend was anything but loyal and kind I would be encouraging her to break up with him. For all the kudos that Carole gets for her parenting-I think this is disgusting. What kind of person would be okay with their child being treated like this???
Didn’t Kate change universities or she decided to defer her university entry so that she could take the same classes as William? Do correct me if I’m wrong. If so, that was quite freaky.
Also what were people expecting? She’s likely mad at home, scolded William for not being discrete. William dumped his baggage (to the Butler) and walked away. Carole tried to call him or texted him. William showers and goes to sleep. Then goes to work at EAAA to ‘atone’.
she s the same that these dangerous stage parents who use their children for their own means.
it must have been easy to bribe kate and pippa into it,with the good life, the so called easy job to be a waiting mattress instead studying harder for bank and financial work (the kind of job which give the quantity of money they love),as the reward was surer and more prestigious.
the wisteria sisters have been brought up for being upper class spouses from the beginning of the 20th century who have to bear anything from allmighty aristocratic frat bros..a time when divorce was impossible for royals
without uncle gary and their parents support they have nothing of their own like their failing brother.
as a result,carole the social climber has seen greener pasture,but remains ostracised and despised for enabling her bratty son in law. it seems her genius plan didn’t foresee disaster for her daughters in potential separations with iron clad pre nups.
if wills chasing skirts ways find better, he won’t look back.
prince charles case proves wedding rings and offsprings aren’t a bulletproof way to queen for life coronation heaven anymore.
the day kate is wanted out,she is trapped by her spending and living habits,more like a new fergie,as she doesn’t have any known network to back her.
there is no way a smart and loving mother throws her dear child in such mess for her own desillusions of grandeur.but a calculating, ruthless and arrivist pseudo nouveau riche one would.
Perhaps will and kate won’t divorce:
William is weak and Carole manages to rule him. The Royal Family doesn’t seem to be able to restrict Carole’s ruling of William. Why would she allow Kate to divorce such a “perfect” husband? Other upper class spouses wouldn’t tolerate to be ruled by Carole like William.
i agree with you.
william is weak but spoiled and stubborn.what he wants is his way.
for now his selfishness is compatible with carole interests.
but we all change,and wills too.him in bad way .
maybe one day this won’t coincide with having kate at his side even for public occasions.(he already is unable to hide his unpleasure staying near her and their toddlers)
if this time comes he will throw the unfamous middletons under the bus without any regret,like the windsor he really is.(it will be the tabloids delight as they are not liked)
contrary to kate he has kept his friends (one is bachelor again…very worrying for his family) and will always find a shoulder to cry on.like his dad.
she is convenient for the moment …in french we say les cimetierres sont plein de gens indispensables(cemetaries are full of irrepleacable people) for cases like this one.
and once kate is discarded carole has no reason to keep benefiting from royal places services and others usurped privileges without hostile public scrutinity.
working on her grandchildren will be hard if wills vetoed it.
it seems pippa is gonna have the best deal of the three siblings: very rich but not aristocratic (who mocks her family and origins) private citizen spouse with less maternal intrusion but more respect than her brother girlfriend.
@ nem
Great analysis 😉
I really hope that William will be able to put his foot down. I don’t like him but I dislike the Middletons even more. Nobody is more disliked than a social climber with no merits to justify her position.
I think that Will and Kate are building their own “court” aka the excavation at Kensington Palace. This might give Kate some more power, actually, because she will have her own people to defend her interests.
Are Pippa and her family really mocked by her husband-to-be? I hadn’t heard anything about that.
I’ve met women similar to Carol, although none even close to Carol’s league. But I don’t think her mindset is as unusual as I’d want it to be.
One family friend advised her daughter that “it’s as easy to fall in love with a poor man as a rich man,” and that woman’s granddaughter was concerned about the size of her engagement as being “too small.” A friend who worked at an engagement ring store had more than one story about women telling their boyfriends that they would only accept a ring larger than x carats and, in one case, a woman rejected a guy for buying “only” a 2.5 carat diamond (despite it being close to flawless).
My Mom served on a charitable board when I was a kid, and when I was older, she told me she was amazed at how many of the doctor’s wives knew and didn’t care that their husband were having affairs, as long as they had the big house and the prestige of being “Mrs. Dr. X.”
@ LA Elle
I know such types, too.
The father of a school friend of mine is a doctor, too. He “found” his wife when she was waitressing and “exotic dancing” in a bar, as the school friend told us about her mother. [sic!] You would never have guessed the “career” of this “Mrs. Dr. X” if you would see her: perfectly coiffed hair, perfect fingernails and perfect caked on makeup. Clothing style more conservative and more boring than Laura Bush who btw. dresses fine (conservative but fine). She always drove through town in a car that had a plate in the window saying “doctor at work” and she made sure they bought a villa-style house in the “right” part of town.
These types are VERY unhappy especially in later life when they think about all the things they didn’t achieve because they spent all their energy to get a MRS degree.
Those who did go for a career and a loving relationship are usually more happy even if they don’t make it big. They know they have their real friends and their real relationships and their achievements are their own and they usually try to do something even in retirement because doing things / not wasting their time simply makes them happy.
# Meaningful Life
Kate is the one “wearing the trousers” in the family? Hahahaha. Sure, okay
She doesn’t wear trousers LOL!
To be fair, this looked like the lamest party ever. That said, he WAS acting like a single man.
but he looked the happiest for long time…the further from the wife and kids the better for him.
the fail has already put images from the welcome from our french (failure) president.
the emphasize is on her (from far and with filters she seems lovely, coat and dress fit, earrings and necklace are great but hidden by the wiglets from hell),and wills grin is so fake and ill at ease,he should resign the heir position.
Just saw the Fail pics–Will’s suit looks too small on him. He cannot dress properly to save his life.
all his money and savile row tailors are wasted on him.
he s like the embodiment of the definition of g.r.r martin GOT false spring.
the golden beautiful teenage world number one heartthrob is long gone…
Well William certainly looks smarter than Hollande, with his trousers around his ankles, Ithought the French led the way with style?
@princess touché!!!!lol
it needs french translation in this topic
president hollande is lucky to be from a generation when political men weren’t judged on their physical appearence, and looked better in his young days.(badly not teen william good)
but he had to diet in 2011-2012 for the elections.once president he has gone back to his old eating habits.
political women always have to be classy.
the new statemen have to be sexier and some are yummy until they open their mouth( to hurl far right bullsh..)
the french smart look is for women.well off and rich ones or those who are lucky enough to find ways to cheap good clothing and thin.
studies have proved people which are not slim to obese avoid to come in Paris,fearing to be shamed and uneasy.it ‘s difficult to get plus sized wear which is not costly(when it exists) karl lagerfeld stays happy here for a reason.
No doubt William has done this plenty of times before.
And Kate puts up with it….as long as William is discreet and doesn’t humiliate her. But times like NOW…and when he was caught in Spain with Jecca are when she must be upset that he can’t at least make an effort to hide his cheating from the public.
This. As I said yesterday, if Kate’s upset, it’s because he wasn’t discrete.
Their marriage vows should have been along the lines of “to love, honor, and make sure all of my extramarital affairs stay out of the public spotlight.”
problem is it became impossible in this smartphone video and camera spying era.
@ nem – that’s why it never ceases to amaze me that some folks think Carole can control the press – ha very ha!
I just saw a pic of her in France wearing an ice blue dress. She looks absolutely beautiful.
Agreed. She upped her game. That blue suit on Will was horrible.
A farce, nonetheless. They are both useless.
I thought that Jenny Packham dress was totally boring. I thought the McQueen black dress was much more interesting. I actually like the Chanel suit today with a cute purse that amazingly isn’t a clutch.
karl lagerfeld must be so proud she chooses him, after his awful remarks on her sister face.
chanel suits her but she could have tried another more respectful to her family house
She had three costume changes in one day. How much did each cost?
Shameful waste of money when people in the UK are losing access to benefits and their homes because of government cuts.
Is she nuts and/or delusional? Carole with an E needs to stop. You go after his three closest friends (2 of them are godparents to the grandchildren), their finances, their spouses, and Chuck all in the same article. Girl, you in danger!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4325436/The-trio-tearaway-toffs-leading-Wills-astray.html
A capricorn (she) meticulously masterminding everything so she can get what she wants, and a gemini (he) free spirit, explorative, independent. Excuse me but i don’t think they are a good match. She will stay the course no matter what, too much to lose after so much struggle to get it. He will probably go astray soon enough, he’s probably had enough of what others want for him.
By most counts, he is a Cancer (although on the cusp). Some astrologers were interested that their son ended up with sun and moon signs that matched his parents sun signs (Cancer Sun, Capricorn Moon).
If he is more of a cancer then it might work. Those two signs seem very compatible. Hopefully they will have a long loving marriage.
Some astrology reports through time have them being in an affectionate but scratchy relationship with pressure, friction, and aggravation through the years. Both being strong and wanting things their own way (which isn’t the way the other person wants things), competitive, etc.
The most intriguing were from AstoAmerica, but unfortunately he passed away. Interesting to go back and read the old predictions from before they announced their engagement.
@NOTA – was he the one that predicted he would abdicated because of her and her health?
I have a theory that Wills was super close to his Mom and to this day blames his Dad and Granny for all the awful things that happened to his Mum, including her death. He won’t listen to or respect a thing his dad and granny tell him. He seems unhappy and pinched looking all the time. I read somewhere that he is noted to be snappish and quick to anger and that makes sense. If you’re a royal watcher and connect the dots you’ve seen this behavior.
What I don’t get is if he so hates how his mom was treated why is he behaving the same way with his wife? Maybe that is why he looks pinched and gets angry quickly. Self-loathing.
This whole ski trip deal makes no sense to me. I suspect there is a juicy back story. It was done so blatantly that one has to wonder at whom was the message directed? Maybe he was spoken to by The Firm and told to get with the program or sit down as his brother is more than willing and able to step up. Wills threw a BF and stomped off to party with his pals, looking like a fool in the process. Meanwhile The Firm turns to Harry and says spotlight is on you boy, shine. And Harry shines.
Let’s face it everyone loves Harry. He looks like a modern day King Arthur. He has the ability to bring people together. He just connects so naturally to everyone he meets. If they want to save the monarchy give it to Harry.
I’m telling you I think Harry’s destiny is to be King.
Chopper’s mistress was on this trip!
kate disapproving of William is bad in terms of the image of the Royal family. It is also not supporting the Royal family. I think Kate aims to rule William by putting him down now and then. Such intentions would explain an article like Nicholls’.
Kate meticulously masterminded to get the Prince, as commentator # 32. fina brilliantly said. Now Kate will keep masterminding to be able to lord it over William.
It shouldn’t be forgotten that William kept Kate dangling for a decade before marrying her. I sometimes wonder if she wants revenge for such a humilitating experience.
There is a double page spread n the DM on Williams best mates the article entitled “The trio of tear away TOFFS nicknamed Badger Vans and GP leading Wills Astray” this title just says it all, but it seems like they have always been leading hm astray. The problem is he won’t give them up as mates and Kate obviously has to keep a watchful eye on Wills shanigans with this lot. A handful of toffs being a handful must be a big worry for her no wonder she chews her finger nails.
@ Starlight – at 34 years old he his responsible for his own actions. “Leading him astray” is an excuse for teenagers.
Having said that………………I’m no great fan of Wills and Kate but I am always amazed at the vivid imaginations at work on the Royal threads of celebitchy. 🙂
we need it!!!
everything which can shifting the mood from far right policy, terrorism etc. is welcome
For some reason I feel that IF Kate cares she doesn’t care as much as Carole does, and she/they do it’s only because Will got caught/papped. I think his angle of news is Carole’s doing, I don’t know why I get that vibe. Maybe because Kate at least expected as much from the rumored “advice” she gave Chelsy about Harry that “it comes with the territory”.
However it changes things when they get caught and are not discreet and I think there is a certain level of expectation from Kate and/or Carole that as an aristocrat he keep things very discreet while publicly maintaining a clean image.
The problem here is that William is messy and not discreet. The easy solution is not to live a double life of course, but its almost like some royals feel a historical obligation to live double lives. Instead of going through the trouble of actually being low-key and discreet about affairs or bad habits and partying and doing things in a way that the press doesn’t find out, he only wants to silence the press and gag them when he does get caught, instead of say learning his lessons and hiding better.
He would have reveled in the era on Henry the VIII where kings were almost deities and could do no wrong and he could just send to the tower whomsoever defied that perception of him.