I remember when Amber Heard and Johnny Depp were first getting started. His relationship with Vanessa Paradis – which was always more of a common-law marriage – was falling apart and there were widespread rumors that Depp had fallen for his pretty young costar, Amber. Most of the Depp-heads refused to acknowledge that Amber and Johnny were happening, though. I remember the comments, which showed up on every post: “Isn’t she gay?” or “didn’t she come out as a lesbian years ago?” etc. In fact, Amber never came out and said she was a lesbian. She said she was bisexual. She had girlfriends before Depp and she never made a secret about it. The bisexual label was one she gave herself and she has no regrets. She spoke at The Economist’s second annual Pride & Prejudice event on Thursday. Some quotes:
She never hid her bisexuality: “It was just not important or interesting enough to make headlines.” Heard publicly discussed her sexual orientation for the first time in 2010, but to her family and friends, she “was always out. I was an activist. I went to protests.” Funnily enough, she added, “I was never in. I was in a relationship and I never hid it and then my career and my life started to change…”
She called herself bisexual in 2010, in an interview with After Ellen: “I just answered honestly. I could tell by the look on this person’s face it was a big deal. My poor publicist. Then I realized the gravity of what I had done and why so many people—studio execs, agents, advisors—did not want this coming before my name. I became attached to a label. I’ve never seen myself defined by the person I’m with… I saw myself being in this unique position and having a unique responsibility. So, I bit the bullet.”
She was told that the ‘bisexual’ label was a problem for her career: “As a leading lady, there’s a certain amount of wish fulfillment. I was asked ‘How is anyone going to invest in you romantically if they think you’re unavailable?’ I said, ‘Watch me do it.'”
She’s proud to see more actors coming out: “I stand here now amongst many of my romantic leading lady peers who are out and fluid. I’m one of many now, and I’m working. If we’re meant to reflect the world around us, the whole point of telling stories and reaching audiences is to challenge the status quo, to push the envelope. Not just to meet the status quo. We’re in a unique position to do this. We need to be actively pushing. If every gay man that I know personally in Hollywood came out tomorrow, then this would be a non-issue in a month. We have a long way to go.”
The only part that made me side-eye a little bit was this: “I could tell by the look on this person’s face it was a big deal.” She came out as bisexual with After Ellen because it was a big deal to that site? That’s a little bit funny to me. I mean, I remember Amber Heard pre-Depp and I don’t want to say that she was an ambitious young actress looking to stand out from the crowd, but… she was. She didn’t come out publicly just because it meant so much to After Ellen. Plus, she gave a bunch of interviews and speeches about her sexuality that year. It wasn’t just one time, one statement, for one person’s benefit. Now, all that being said, she’s right – she never hid anything and she never lied. She’s always talked about her bisexuality with a shrug. Sort of like a proto-Kristen Stewart. And that is important, for queer women to have these kinds of role models, to see that women like Amber and K-Stew can still get work and have careers and more. Update: I misread the E! coverage and thought Amber was saying she came out on The Ellen Show and not After Ellen. My bad, I’m sorry.
Photos courtesy of WENN.
You’d be surprised how isolated bisexual people can be in the LGBTQ community. There’s plenty of internalized sexism and homophobia within the community, and lots of bi and pan individuals can accused of being “greedy” or playing “straight” to avoid coming out. Combined with the general prejudice you find in Hollywood, I wouldn’t be surprised if Ellen find it a little surprising.
yeah, exactly. in fact as a bisexual, i sometimes found the lgbtq+ community to be far more intolerant of bisexuality than some straight people. it’s a weird one.
I get that feeling too sometimes. It is so annoying how some gay and lesbians will deny that bisexuality is a legit sexuality and their whole reasoning for denying it is because they knew someone that was “bi” but then later came out as a gay or lesbians, so of course that means bi people don’t really exist. But all that means is that there are a bunch of chicken shit gays and lesbians that instead of coming fully out of the closest they instead used an identity they never belonged to to ease themselves and their loved ones into the idea that they liked the same sex. Which basically means they were never bi to begin with, but once they finally and legitimately come out want to turn around and tell actual bi people who have always been bi and never wavered in their identity that we don’t exist because of those few gay and lesbians that put on our identity falsely.
But you never hear gays and lesbians saying straight people must not exist because they knew someone that was “straight” had and opposite sex partner for decades only to come out as gay or lesbian, so that means straight people don’t really exist. And historically gays and lesbians have pretended to be straight far longer then they have pretended to be bi, but some how only bi people have to deal with the fall out of the L and the G putting on our identity as a mask until they feel ready to full come out of the closest.
I am bi and feel the same way. I grew up in the 80s and had no idea there was such a thing as bisexuality. I really had no idea why I was the way I was until I went away to college. Once I understood, I came out and was pretty open into my twenties, and at first it was hugely liberating to have bisexual friends and relationships and to feel that there was not “something wrong” with me.
But gradually, I learned and understood that My Kind was not really welcome in what we now call LGBTQ community. My identity was continuously discounted by them, eye-rolled, etc. People don’t take you seriously as a potential relationship partner. At some point it became more disheartening to try to participate in political/social activities with gay and lesbian people as and out bisexual than to just retreat back in closet, especially once I was in a committed relationship with someone of the opposite-sex.
Fellow bisexual girl here, and I have to say thank you so much for this discussion.
My favorite are the ones who claim you must have been straight/gay all along once you settle down and that you were just “confused” before that. Yeah, dude, all of that dating I did between both genders totally doesn’t count now that I’m required to settle on one legal partner.
Or the ones who assume you must be promiscuous and flighty because of it. I once had a lesbian coworker who had literally just married the woman who had been treating on her previously partner with her tell me I was greedy and untrustworthy. I just stared at her, eyebrow raised spectacularly high.
Jared Leto will be coming out?
“My favorite are the ones who claim you must have been straight/gay all along once you settle down and that you were just “confused” before that”
this! as if my current choice in a partner meant i magically stopped being bisexual, and stopped finding people of the opposite/same gender attractive. monogamy is a choice that has nothing to do with who you fancy.
In fact, according to studies, it is more commom for bisexuals to suffer domestic violence from a partner than the others in the LGBT community.
I was really surprised about this fact. I think people inside lgbt community still treat bisexuals with prejudice about their struggles.
I’m really not surprised. I think some of their partners live in the paranoia that the bi person is secretly longing for or cheating with someone of the different sex. Amber and Johnny are a good illustration of that. We heard repeatedly from both camps that he was obsessed with her cheating with her female friends. But then also paranoid about her co-star Billy Bob Thornton. So basically if you are bi and not friendless, you must be cheating.
One of my close friends and roommate had a boyfriend who freaked once he found out that I identified as bi/pan. (I actually called him out at a bar about it because he’d gone on a rant about bisexuals when we were all sitting together – literally, this was my first meeting with the guy.) He kept telling her that she needed to move out and was convinced that she was either lying about being bi herself or that I would molest her. Not to say the guy didn’t have plenty of abusive control behaviors otherwise (she dodged a bullet when she left him), but it was amazing how much his insecurity was riled by my existence.
Craven,
I’m dating the first guy I’ve ever fully come out to as bi, and I deal with this to a lesser degree. He’s really supportive and a great partner, but sometimes he says slightly ignorant/hurtful shit in this vein. Like he likes to make it a point that “there’s an extra layer of weirndess” or whatever because I’m attracted to both genders, like he can’t fully be comfortable if I’m just hanging out with friends. Thanks for articulating this and thereby helping me to do it too.
@Shambles, so many of my exes, whether boys or girls, were fairly disappointing on that front. my current boyfriend was a friend for a few years before we got together, and that made it easier because i knew he understood so i could be honest. but yeah, i’ve been there and it’s tough. hopefully for your date is just a question of getting more comfortable with it.
This so much, and this is why I loved KStew’s “bisexuals arent confused, we have more clarity than anyone else” comment. Our sexuality is so often dismissed as “confusion”, “a phase” or “playing straight”. Sure, it’s no lie many gay kids first come out as bi, but that doesnt mean we’re a myth. Hearing that repeatedly eventually gets to you. I questioned my sexuality so much, just because other people were questioning it too.
I think that she has no right to call out gay men to come out and use her experience and that of other bi actresses as examples of how to be. She is not acknowledging her privilege over gay men to still be seen as a viable candidate to play female roles despite her sexuality that gay men don’t have. She is just as annoying and inconsiderate of the situation gay actors have to deal with in the same way Matt Damon was telling gay men to not make public about their sexuality that same way he does not go on about being straight all while completely ignoring that every time Damon talked about his wife or brought her to red carpet events he was proclaiming his heterosexuality.
I am happy to see that when this first came out others felt the same way about her comment towards gay actors and called her out on her insensitivity to their particular struggle. She has no right to ask people to come out. I would not even be comfortable with someone like NPH or Matt Boomer, both out gay men in that industry, saying what she said. Because the only person that has a right to tell a gay person when they need to come out is themselves. Even though the ones she called out were white gay men their whiteness does not erase all of the discrimination they face as gay men.
Also even though I am sure being openly bi is hard in that business in her speech she makes it seem like she and KStew are such pioneers in being open about their bisexuality. But really I consider actresses like Jolie way more pioneering on that front and seeing how she came out back in the 90s and so many actresses only came out as being interested in girls after her. She’s a real pioneer.
It is very hard to come out of the closet even in this day and age. It is even harder when you know your livelihood depends on what people think of you. Not even Liberace ever openly admitted he was a homosexual. People will come out of the closet when they are good and ready. They will come out as homosexuals when they do not feel threatened or embarrassed. They will come out when they feel their families will not be ashamed of them.
In our society it is so much easier for a woman to come out as bisexual than it is for men.
If you are talking pioneers you need to go back to Greta Garbo and Marlene Dietrich both of whom appeared with their girlfriends publicly and even more remarkably, each appeared in a movie playing a woman dressed in guy clothes who kissed another woman. And in both movies, they were played as lesbian kisses. And that was a nearly a hundred years ago now.
As for Amber, the truth is alot of the progress we make is wiped away in the same generation. Just because Anne Heche succesfully played Harrison Fords (yuck to that age gap!) love interest while one half the worlds most famous gay couple doesnt mean it isnt still an uphill battle for subsequent actresses. In the same way that just because Diahann Caroll getting to be a black female lead on a network TV show did not translate into an easier ride for other black actresses. In fact we had to wait 40 years for Scandal to provide the next black female lead on network.
Regarding gay men. I dont think it will be easy but for many of them the fear is much bigger than potential consequences. The barrier is when their ambition is to be a leading man in the action and romance genres. Character actors, supporting actors and people in comedy fare do just fine after coming out as has been repeatedly proven. So the more of those that come out and normalise homosexuality, the easier it will be for the classic leading man types to do so too. Quick shout out to Luke Evans who came back semi-out, is publicly snapped in unmistakably gay situations and is not only still getting classic leading man work, he just finished a Disney film.
As for pioneers I meant during the time with mass media. Grabo and Dietrich came out during a time when the studios protected every potentially explosive secret that would turn the public from going to their stars movies. Most people in those days did not follow gossip rags so even if a rag got the scoop it would not get far.
Oh you are very mistaken Jinni! Celebrity gossip was mainstream fair. You know how you actively have to seek out E! or TMZ for gossip? In those days, celebrities were reported on in the actual news on the wireless. In fact both Hedda Hopper and Louella Parsons had radio shows on and off from the 30s. And that was in addition to their syndicated columns. Together they had a combined audience of SEVENTY FIVE MILLION. To put that into perspective, the most watched TV shows in the US today hit a max of 30 million. So no, most people did follow the ins and outs of Hollywood gossip, it wasnt the sneared upon enterprise it became. Both Marlene and Greta peaked a few years before Hedda and Louella but there were gossip predecessors before them, now forgotten but just as hard.
The studio system would protect those it deemed worth protecting. So for example, they worked hard to hide male cash cows Rudolph Valentino and William Haines but even so both had questionable stuff printed about them. What we now consider obscure euphemisms were readily understood by anybody halfway worldly. Valentino of course died young but Haines was fired for refusing to closet after the papers outed a recent arrest at a gay adult establishment. All that to say, celebrity news was not as tame as you have been led to believe.
Those who got the euphemisms about our gals either didnt believe it or didnt care. Hollywood stars were at the time like true royalty. Everyone talked about their decadence and how the average 30 year old star had three divorces and was reported on the wireless to be “close friends” with her current co star which every 16 year old and older understood to mean, “banging”. Just as in the days of Rome everyone talked about the decadence of the Emperor, it was shocking but also expected. Marlenes lesbian hookups were discussed in unsubtle euphemisms in respected papers particularly as she aged out of blockbusters. Its just that those who understood it either didnt believe it or didnt care. The point is Marlene, Greta and even Haines were not hiding. THAT is what pioneers look like.
@Craven: Well thanks for the gossip history lesson. I was not aware of how big the audience was for those mags back then.
IMO, I think some are not in the closet. They’re out but their fans want them to be straight.
I disagree with bisexual women being more privileged than gay men, because bisexual women have to deal with the intersection of both prejudices directed at people for being bisexual and misogyny on top of it, while gay men benefit from male privilege.
Yes! Gay men still have lots of male privilege. This is what I try to understand. They can sometimes use cruel euphemisms for women’s body parts, refer to womanly things as “fishy”, throw around the word “bitch” and “slut” when talking to their female friends… I always just laugh and play along and sometimes it’s legit funny but at the same time it can make me feel uncomfortable. Unacceptable comments about women’s bodies and name-calling aside, it’s true that they are margianalized too and we must be allies but cis male privilege is a very real thing in the LGBTQ+ community and I wish there were more conversations about it.
Coming out or not is a personal decision you have to make on your own. I sometimes feel like some celebrities create issues to get attention or to put themselves front and center. Not saying this is what Amber is doing; but her asking people to do this is not her business. You can only live your life the way you think it should be lived; not someone else.
And in this issue I think women coming out as gay doesn’t always hold the same limitations as men that are gay.
She didn’t “came out” at Ellen degeneres show, she just answered a interview for “after Ellen” site , the interviewer asked her who she was with at the event and what that person was to her and she simply told she was with her partner at time.
I remember watching the video and was funny to see the reaction on the reporter face.
lol at the way she’s acting almost as if she’s a hero.
Saying you’re gay, especially if you’re a leading actor, is a lot less easy than saying you’re bi in that business.
And I believe in general it’s harder for men in the industry to come out, in terms of having an affect on their career.
during the interview she said that if all actors she knows would came out of the closet this subject would be a nonissue in a month, she never demanded or implored for male gay actors to come out.
The clicbaits article that have a “special” way with words.
Anyway I thought her interview was good, she came with data and interesting points.
Hmmmm, wonder about Regina George in sheep clothing…
I’m giving her more side-eye for defining herself as a “leading lady.”
THIS.
LOL, the shade of this comment.
Lmfao so shady
THIS!
Look, the Depp business was awful and what she went through is terrible. But, I’ve been on this site long enough to remember posts about her pre-Depp days and the consensus was that she was super thirsty (like a Bella Thorne of her time). This was the kind of stuff she would say that you just had to rooooolllllllll your eyes at.
Girl Bye
Leading lady?? LMAO.😂
It deserves no side-eye. Casting is done by type. She IS the “leading lady” type. She isn’t a quirky side-kick.
Tiffany, yeah.
And she’s about to be the leading lady/female lead in a superhero franchise.
I wonder if Tom Cruise really is gay or bi. My cousin is a photographer who works in famous circles. He says it’s true.
Upsets me rather than be real he became the leader of a cult.
Too many people who escaped CO$ have said he isn’t now – not “no comment”, they’ve outright said Cruise is straight. This included the guy who ‘audited’ him regularly. A hardcore loony believer like Cruise wouldn’t fail to mention that in some thirty years of CO$ auditing. Travolta yeah, but that’s barely even speculation anymore…
I don’t care either way, and I’m not a fan of outing people. Promoting that dangerous Ponzi scheme of a cult is what matters when it comes to Cruise and Travolta.
Tom Cruise has always been described as very nice but very odd in person. He brought cupcakes and his mother to an all guys football viewing for example and stood up like a gentleman everytime another guy had to go to the toilet. I would assume that his odd friendliness gets taken as being gay by a lot of men. He probably has no clue how men talk and behave with each other.
And then there is the fact he bangs guys
Look,I sympathise with her about what she allegedly went through,BUT I just can’t like her.I think she’s a mediocre at best actress who kept getting roles cause she’s generic pretty.I don’t know if her role in DCEU is gonna change anything,you don’t suddenly become talented at 30.I strongly believe that Jason really deserved better,especially given the fact that his Aquaman looks amazing.As for Amber as a person,idk why but she always gave me a trying-so-hard to sound clever vibe and also she’s too ambitious for an actress with her acting skills.
And as someone else here mentioned,her referring to herself as a leading lady is laughable,cause she has never actually led a succesful movie in her life.
Anyway,that’s just my opinion about her,I just find her unlikable,regardless what went on with her and Depp.
I want my crush Lee Pace to be bi. Not gay.. One can dream
Many won’t come out because of comments like yours. Regardless of somebody’s sexual orientation, they are actors. In theory they need to be able to play any role.
This obsession should stop and it should start with us as audiences.
Lee Pace is a handsome and excellent actor, the fact he could be gay is not going to change that.
chill out. it was a fun comment nothing “get out already” one. Nothing judgy or critic. I have no obsession on anyone or fanatic/fandom.
I’m straight but it has always baffled me how bisexuality bugs and offends so many people, specifically LGBT people…like ????? I realize it’s pretty naive and sheltered of me but I just cannot wrap my head around the ridiculousness of it all. My mom is a social worker, and she has told me several times about how judgy and ostracising they can be within their own community. I had never really believed her until very recently.
Lucy, I’m bisexual but most of my long-term relationships have been with men. I’m actually, on average, attracted to more women than men… but this stigma is the main reason my dating history doesn’t reflect that. (And ironically, my dating history makes the stigma worse, and on and on it goes.)
When I was younger and had only dated women, it was much easier to find same sex partners. Afted my first boyfriend, most women either assumed I was “straight now” or simply didn’t want to be with a bisexual woman. Men, of course, ate it up for all the wrong reasons.
I even had gay friends in HS and college who got very angry at me for not exclusively dating women. Now, I basically feel like a straight ally when I go to Pride, and I have no one to tell, because if I get sad about my identity being erased, I’m essentially complaining about my own privilege.
i relate to this so much. i also lost some of my gay friends after starting a relationship with my current boyfriend (i dated more girls before him), and it broke my heart.
the privilege thing annoys me so much, really we’re shunned by the lgbtq+ community whenever as the b part of it, we should be very much involved. straight people otoh, treat us as some of sort fetish. we can’t win.
Unfortunately the bi prejudice is true, even inside the lgbt community, and I applauded Amber heard for the stand she took in 2009/2010 and how she brings more awareness to the topic to the subject. It is good to see people talking openly abou it.
Also the violence against bisexuals by a intimate partner is more commom than people is aware of and that should be a topic of conversations too.
I’m bi. It’s very complicated.
Ostensibly there are more opportunities for queer women than queer men, and more for bisexuals than lesbians, but at the cost of permitting your sexuality to be exploited for the male gaze.
If you are an attractive bisexual actress you can play any number of “hot chick” roles but via your sexuality being commodified by and for men, by playing into the “two women together” or “threesome” male fantasy which is offensive and has nothing to do with the reality of being bi.
Is that really so vastly better than having your sexuality marginalised and essentially neutered, the way gay male actors are reduced to playing the sexless best friend who takes the female lead shopping?
this is a really well thought out and stated point. part of the trouble with being a bi lady is the straight male love and glorification of their specific idea of ‘lesbians’.
I’m really confused by your analysis of the “big deal”/look on their face” quote. She didn’t say or imply that she did it *because* it was a big deal to any outlet or person… simply that as soon as she said it, the reporter’s reaction told her it was a big deal. AfterEllen is only relevant because the reporter was writing for them (and obviously would’ve recognized the significance).
Now, we can definitely debate how intentional it was, whether it was planned for PR or the PR was an accidental byproduct… but all she’s saying here is that she wanted to bite the bullet, then immediately realized what an impact it would have on her career.
I am supporter of the LGBT and I’ve questioned my sexuality for sure.
I feel like gay people should come out once on their terms and when they are ready but I definitely saw a lot of gay people who hadn’t come out yet and they were treated so badly. A lot of, “what are you a homo?” “Who are they kidding, they need to come out of the closet”.
I hope I worded that right
Shes a young beautiful blonde sexy actress …. I dont think youre going to have the same problems as a Gay Man in Hollywood
LOL to her haters trying to shame her for her comment about gay men. The video is in youtube, she was asked about gay men in Hollywood and she just told if they come out together at once, no one would make a big deal of it in a month
When she came out was a big deal because she wasn’t tagged as “bisexual” but “lesbian” and she was at the time getting roles as leading lady, the girlfriend like in Pinneaple Express and even you may wonder if Johnny Depp would had chose her for TRD if the news about her “lesbian relationship” would have been out by then? (they did the movie before), maybe not.
She also spoke about Greta Garbo (someone mentioned her before here) and other topics, except for the huge amount of domestic violence between bisexuals. Guess it could be because she went there to speak about LGBT in Hollywood and not because her NDA don’t allows her to mention something so relevant like this. Her experience would be so important to share, because she was also victim of bi-phobia by the press during her divorce
Stories like these drive me insane, I’m a bisexual MoC who has been nearly choked to death on the SUSPICION of being gay. I’ve been marginalized and dismissed by the LGBTQIA+ community, and nearly every other community I’m apart of that has somehow found out about my sexuality. Her entire stance wreaks of privilege. She fails to recognize that it’s far more acceptable for women to be gay or bisexual than it is for men, and that being a “conventionally” pretty blond, feminine woman further elevates her status among LGBTQIA+ women. So yes, Amber and her small circle of like minded women can prattle on about how wonderful life is after coming or being out, because they’re far less likely to face discrimination than others, but she has NO right to tell anyone else when or if they should come out. She needs to sit down, shut up and keep such comments to herself!
The headline is a little misleading… she doesn’t actually command or directly encourage these men to come out. Some of them are her friends. She just says that change would happen more quickly if more men were willing to come out… but it’s a catch-22, because you’re right, thanks to double standards and continued homophobia, it’s just not that easy.
My first impression of her comment regarding gay men was that it was more about the power men wield, especially in Hollywood. She speaks about how art should imitate life but it can only do so if everyone has their story represented at the table.
If there were more openly gay men making the decisions then we would start to see more diversity in roles; instead of what old, straight white men think is relevant. Because in the end, a gay man is still a man which inherently puts him one step above women. (Though, I recognize he may still not be on the same level as his “straight” counterparts.)
Also, notice she didn’t mention gay/bi women coming out in that same sentence. I feel like that wasn’t an oversight on her part as she’s acknowledging the power men hold. If all of the gay/bi women in Hollywood were to come out, it wouldn’t have the same effect as men.
I’m a straight female so my perspective may be clouded, however, I thought I would share my takeaway from the article.
you sound like a butthurt.
Her privileges, like when the entire universe somehow used her bisexuality against her, as if her word couldn’t be trusted due to her bisexuality, during her divorce?
How many people judges your bisexuality or share opinions about why you must have been doing something wrong that made your partner to hit you?
You can live your bisexuality privately without anyone to complaint. She can’t and she didn’t want to (she was a part of it, she could have keep it as a secret of course)
I never said she had this rosy life where everyone else was accepting, encouraging and supportive. What I said in a nutshell was in the grand scheme as a “conventionally” pretty blonde woman she has it better than most in the community. That’s part of the nuance of the community that many people miss or don’t understand. It sucks for her, but it sucks less than it does for others,
“You can live your bisexuality privately without anyone to complaint. ”
WOW
Talk about beeing an absolute obnoxious a##hole.
Didn’t you read what inkblotter wrote?
He was nearly choked to death for just the suspicion that he might be gay.
INKBLOTTER i hope you get away from that person.
Yes, also she’s a white woman in a relationship with a white man. There are definitely huge privileges to that. Major ones.
Still, she has had her own struggles, some very recently, and it’s important to acknowledge that. Having some privilege doesn’t automatically erase difficulties in a person’s life.
@Brittney: The part about pushing was what stuck out as her saying that men need to come out. That used to be said quite a bit. “We need to push people out of the closet.” “We need to push them to help fight for change.” It’s a very coded way of trying to shame people into coming out.
@Dex: Racism is very rampant in the LGBTQIA+ community. Very. It really saddens me, because a community that should be united in its experiences is divided by a lot of the same racial prejudices that shows up in other places,. So if we’re going to have more gay men in power then we need to make sure that gay, lesbian, etc. people of all races are represented. Otherwise we could have Oscars so white 2.0, but with a few LGBTQIA+ actors and actresses sprinkled in.
This is probably controversial but a woman coming out in HW is just a guy’s fantasy (threesomes, whatever), while a guy coming out emasculates himself. It’s not the same thing at all. Maybe I’m wrong but gay men have a much harder time in HW.
The most shocking thing I got out of this interview is that she thinks she’s a ‘leading lady.’
I think the reason amber is so suspect or side- eyed, by us, is that she left her partner to be with depp. No one has ever had a problem with the fact that she’s Bi, it’s That she saw an opportunity in depp, and dumped a women ( by all accounts that she loved) for the career move of marrying a man who she was never in love with. The reason for all the ire of her….. is that she’s a totally $hitty person…… not that she’s bi
So she came back to the era pre-Depp after her only some feminism on here buy her story about her abusive marriage. She is narcissist sociopath with criminal past. I still wait for true article about her past and present which presents all facts about her “messy” divorce. it’s sad that some women here forgot how to use their brain.