Harvey Weinstein is an extremely powerful producer and distributor. If he loves you and you’re on his good side, he will support you and your film all the way through to the Oscars, where you’ll probably win. If you are not in Weinstein’s favor, then he will seemingly work to destroy you, even if it means a financial loss for himself, even if it means creating enemies for no real reason other than a difference of opinion. Korean director Bong Joon-Ho and Weinstein went to war several years back over Snowpiercer – the director’s cut of Snowpiercer was released in some markets (not controlled by Weinstein), but Weinstein wanted a particularly rough edit of the film released in American markets, despite the critical acclaim for the director’s cut. That’s just one example out of dozens. And here’s another one – director James Gray is speaking out about his history with Weinstein.
Gray is currently promoting The Lost City of Z, which was not produced or distributed by Weinstein. But Gray first dealt with Harvey in 2001, with Gray’s film The Yards. Gray says now that Weinstein gave The Yards a “poor release” (as in, Weinstein didn’t support it and didn’t promote it properly). So Gray didn’t want Weinstein to have anything to do with the film he directed in 2013, The Immigrant, starring Marion Cotillard. This is what happened:
Gray on The Immigrant: “I didn’t intend for Harvey to buy and release ‘The Immigrant’ – I thought it was a terrible idea. And I didn’t think he would want the film, and I didn’t think he would like the film. He bought the film without me knowing! He bought it from the equity people who raised the money for me in the States. And I told them it was a terrible idea, but I had no say over the matter.”
Weinstein wanted Gray to change the ending to something really happy: “So at that point the calculus becomes this: a) Do I change the film, and in my mind destroy it? His cut was 88 minutes, had a Sound of Music-style ending with a soaring camera shot, with Marion [Cotillard] and her sister walking over a mountain in LA, narration saying ‘I made it, I made it,’ soaring music, and all that. The audience doesn’t know that that’s not your idea. You get the blame because you’re the director and the writer of it. So I said, ‘Well, I’m not going to take the blame for that.’ What would happen is that that film would get bad response critically anyway, so then it would get the bad response, the film would bomb, and it’s not my cut. B) Or, it’s my cut and the film never gets released. And maybe if I continue my career it becomes the legendary movie that I made that nobody could ever see. So I felt that option b) was way better than option a). And he felt that this was just a totally terrible, obstinate, egotistical view on my part, because he felt his view was more quote ‘commercial’. I think I’m right.”
Gray says Weinstein barely supported the director’s cut of The Immigrant: “But, you know, part of the absurdity of Ayn Rand is this conception that people always act out of self-interest. When in fact we act very frequently out of self-destruction. A lot of times we do very self-destructive things. And Harvey burying the movie was a very self-destructive act, which was basically an extension of the rejection of him. It violated his narcissistic principles. When you don’t do exactly what he wants, it doesn’t matter that it’s in his self-interest to protect the film – he doesn’t see it that way.”
What Weinstein says now: “Unfortunately while there were many good reviews in America, the movie didn’t work commercially and that was a universal result. There were 40 other distributors on the film and the movie didn’t work anywhere. James is an artist and sometimes that doesn’t work commercially. I hope his next film is both a huge success commercially and critically. I understand that he is mad at me, but I tried my best to move the movie in a way that would satisfy both the audience and the critics. He’s a wonderful director, a great man and he deserves success.”
What Gray says… I believe him. I believe all of it. I believe that Harvey tried to bury the film out of spite, because Gray asserted his authority and went with his director’s cut. That being said, I saw The Yards and it sucked! But I never saw The Immigrant, probably because Harvey had it buried. The Immigrant did end up winning a bunch of smaller critics’ awards, but I guess Harvey made sure that it didn’t get nominated for anything big.
This poster, though. Did Harvey do this on purpose?!?
Photos courtesy of WENN.
I saw The Immigrant……….although I thought the subplot with Jeremy Renner’s character was kind of weird (he was a magician, etc and it just seemed random)………..I thought the movie was really, really good. Marion and Joaquin were fantastic……..and it was a story that I hadn’t seen often.
I liked the Immigrant and looking forward to seeing Lost City of Z.
Harvey Weistein is so gross.
Harvey’s oscar baity movies are horrible, he always insists on schmaltz and pandering. I’m surprised he let blue valentine off.
The Immigrant is on Netflix. I thought it was a good film.
Good to know, i’ve wanted to see it for awhile now.
I just don’t understand why would Harvey Weinstein think that everyone in Hollywood would kiss his ass because he is the “Big Shot”? I am glad a few people put him in his place but still everyone is Kissing Harvey Weinstein’s Ass… directors and a few actress alike. This is what I can’t stand with “Hollyweird”. Also Harvey Weinstein has lost his touch anyway.
He is one of very few producers who champions indie cinema and non english language cinema. He champions films for their artist merit over the latest superhero block buster.
The more successful he became the more his ego took over and he has favoured schmaltz over substance, but for indie film makers, he is still a better champion than the average hollywood executive.
Finally, the oscar baity films are actually a marketing strategy. Sure it’s better to win the oscar, but he gets tonnes of free publicity for his projects as soon as they are nominated for a good 3-4 months of award season whether they win or not.
Film marketing is extremely expensive.
So here’s the question: is it better to have a movie with 100% artistic integrity that no one sees, or 90% integrity that more people see?
Artistic integrity is more important unless one is making movies with the only hope to be hired by a big studio for directing a tentpole one day. All Gray’s movies gained a cult status over the years following their releases, I guess he finds some kind of consolation in it.
But it’s an artistic endeavor taken with the intention of making money. It’s not a charity – it’s financed by other people. I don’t necessarily agree with Weinstein’s taste (and I dont like that he strong arms what he doesn’t agree with), but I do think that he knows pretty well what he’s doing and wonder what the product would have been otherwise.
Having sat through a screening of a film about the aftermath of 9/ 11 rendered in rhyming shakespearean couplets, i really dislike artistic films that no one sees. And the director/writer of that project had the temerity to whine about distributors refusing to pick it up AND the difficulty of funding their projects which were all rendered unwatchable by their artistic integrity.
That sounds like an idiot problem, not an integrity problem.
KP: You’d be surprised at how many of those permeate the industry.
And the nameless writer/ director of the above film is a lauded director who makes a film every 5yrs. Each is greeted with praise and quickly disapears unseen.
For years it was frustrating to see Gray’s beef with Weinstein resulting in his movies shelved or released deliberately without any promo. It did look like Harvey hated him but kept buying his movies for the only purpose to punish the director for being disobedient. Things are looking better now as Brad Pitt and his Plan B came to Gray’s side, they’ve produced Lost city and are going to produce Gray’s next one with Pitt himself attached to star… there’s hope Harvey won’t be given opportunity to screw Gray’s work ever again. And Gray is an outstanding director, if he was as crafty in kissing asses as he is in directing he would’ve had his Oscar by now.
I hated The Immigrant. Melodramatic soap opera. Feeling iffy about Lost City of Z now…
It’s one of my favorite pictures. Marion was superb as usual and Joaquin, he’s the best! I was really disappo that she didn’t get an Oscar nom. Marion’s a gem.
Harvey has had more misses than hits in the recent years. He acquires movies in bulk and then shelve or dump most of them to focus on that one movie with Oscar potential. Yes, he’s worked wonders for Lion (a rather uninspired yet Oscar-baity soap opera), but what about Suite Francaise, About Ray, Tulip Fever, etc., etc.?? They haven’t seen the light of the day despite being completed for years (even released in other countries). My main concern now is HHHH, the movie starring my faves Rosamund Pike and Mia Wasikowska, it was filmed a year and a half ago and immediately bought by Harvey just to disappear from anyone’s radar for good.
Yes! And Jason Clarke as well. So HHHH was bought by Weinstein? Explains why it hasn’t seen the light of day indeed. I hope it does soon enough.
I totally believe him. I’ve liked his work since Little Odessa. I rellay enjoy the dynamic between a director and an actor who becomes his muse over the years, and Phoenix gives really his best in Gray’s pictures.
He even made Paltrow watchable and enjoyable in Two Lovers.
I really didn’t like The Immigrant-thought JP’s performance was just like his performance in The Master, just in different period clothes. That being said, a sentimental ending would have been totally wrong given the tone of the movie. As far as Harvey being a vindictive sort- can totally believe that one.
Good film. Harvey is an idiot. Those who cannot create…produce.