Yesterday, we discussed the latest batch of disclosures from Johnny Depp’s ongoing lawsuit against his ex-managers, The Management Group. This story is getting more complicated by the day, and it’s getting more and more difficult to summarize all of the moving parts, disclosures, and tit-for-tat leaks and press pieces about the lawsuit. I will say this: various industry papers seem to be taking TMG’s side with their coverage, and it seems like Depp still believes he’s being afforded the same sympathetic coverage he got during his divorce from Amber Heard. As in, Depp is forever a “victim” because he’s just too nice, and people (wives, managers, friends) just take advantage of him. Do you buy that? Eh.
Anyway, some sites published the latest filing from TMG’s lawyers, wherein they disclose years’ worth of emails and the chronology of just how Depp lost millions of dollars. Buried deep within this document – you can read the whole file here – is some interesting information about Amber Heard, the divorce and Heard’s claims of domestic abuse. I’m going to partially transcribe/summarize:
A family matter. TMG claims that Depp was “interviewed by public authorities relating to a serious and troubling issue involving his family (that was entirely separate and apart from his marriage to Amber Heard.)” Depp allegedly “knowingly lied to public authorties in several respects in connection with these matters” and his actions “marked lack of concern for certain serious family issues.” When TMG approached Depp about “certain cash expenditures that were related to a serious family matter,” the manager was told by Depp to “mind his own f–king business.”
Depp knew about the dogs. The 2015 Australian incident, where Depp and Heard’s dogs were smuggled in, TMG claims Depp was “fully aware that he was illegally bringing his dogs to Australia, and when confronted [he] heavily pressured one of his long-term employees to ‘take the fall.’”
The managers heard about the domestic abuse. Depp’s manager “was informed well after the fact through communications with various house staff and security that Depp had been extremely volatile and sometimes ‘gotten physical’ with Heard. Mandel was also later informed that Depp had violently kicked Heard during an incident that took place in or around 2014.”
Those text messages. Amber released those text messages between herself and Depp’s assistant, after Depp kicked her on the private plane in 2014. TMG says “Depp and his long-time assistant publicly denied the messages and outrageously accused Heard of manufacturing them. TMG is informed and believes that Depp knew full well that the text messages were genuine, but pressured and berated his assistant to falsely challenge the texts publicly.”
Yeah, I believe all of this. I believed Amber last year in the middle of the divorce, and now I believe that Depp’s ex-managers were being informed about all of this, mostly after the fact. You know what wouldn’t surprise me at all? If Depp paid some of his friends to defend him in the middle of all of that last year. I wouldn’t be surprised if Depp was paying certain media outlets for sympathetic coverage as well. In fact, I’m surprised that TMG didn’t reveal any of that. Huh.
Thanks to @total_silliness for the tip!
Photos courtesy of WENN.
Absolute loser.
I find him repellent in every way. Yuk.
A-frigging-men. I will NEVER ever pay money for anything involving him, again. I’m DONE.
I can’t believe people still flock to the cinema to see his films. My last Pirate movie was over a decade ago and I even change the channel when his pretentious perfume ad comes on.
He has a perfume ad? I need to get out more.
Repulsive.
Pig.
It is unbelievable how much sway these starts have over the press. Completely bullshit façade for him and if his looks weren’t reflecting the results of his depraved level of intoxication and self grandeur no onw would believe it.
Audience still fall for this bullshit, his deplorable fans are going nuts on Instagram at Amber heard page attacking her and her fans, they even attacked Elon when he posted pictures with her.
The media endorses this kind of behavior too, Ellen degeneres was so against trump bigotry values but was happy to welcome an abuser addict at her show, Kimmel make jokes about the administration and their morals but is so happy to bring his pals like depp and Casey affleck as his amazing guests.
Why did I fixate on the upside down microphone in the gallery?
And I get fixated about his odor. I imagine sweat, patchouli, and dirt.
And hair grease.
And BOOZE.
And weed.
Chicken noodle soup/ burger king stench and cigarettes. Weed? Who cares. I care more about the alcohol smell. He’s probably all bruised up from thinning that blood, too.
Lol! Dive bar stank. He looks like he’s stopped all personal hygiene.
Because it’s better than focusing on the face of that slimy looking goon.
Another episode of complete inebriation during public event.
I actually saw this clip. He was trying SOOOO hard to be funny. He came across like an idiot in my opinion.
Of course he did. He is a nasty piece of shit.
….personified.
messy
I couldn’t believe how people were defending him and taking his side. He does not look like an upstanding citizen who is drug free. IMO, I think people felt like amber was a gold digger and so what if she got abused? She was a gold digger. Not right.
I agree, Snowflake.
Gold diggers can be abuse victims, too. The two things are not exclusive to each other.
Of course gold diggers can be victims too. What never made any sense is why women were so eager to declare her a gold digger. Was it the bitterness some felt over his dumping Vanessa Paradis. I mean she grew up when Johnny was a comibation of matinee idol and indie king, its no surprise that she would accept that guy if he expressed an interest in her. I found that gold digger descriptor extremely unfair. The girl had never even dated a wealthier partner for goodness sake!
Had this exact debate with a close friend.
“But she’s a gold digger!”
“Oh, I absolutely agree. She *is* a gold digger. Doesn’t mean she wasn’t abused,”
AMEN. The two are not exclusive. Also, if she’s a gold digger, he is a suggar daddy, not some helpless old man.
+2 This did come up a lot on earlier threads, the fact that one does not need to be a “perfect victim” to be abused.
Don’t hit women. Period. There’s pretty much nothing to be said about her that changes that rule. But she…But she…Nope. No hitting.
I still don’t understand why it’s so impossible for people to believe that she may have GENUINELY loved him. Before he was marred by scandal, he was much-beloved as both an actor and a person. For many years, he was still a beautiful guy even when Heard first met him.
Again, never saw any evidence of gold-digging only unfounded accusations and assumptions.
Yes, yes, she was SUCH a gold-digger, she gladly walked away with less than a million in cash from the divorce. SMH.
I agree with Kitten and Craven. I think the “gold digger” slam is unearned. She married a man who was wealthy, yes, but that doesn’t automatically make a person a gold digger. No one has ever presented evidence that her love for him wasn’t genuine or sincere. He’s been a beloved figure for decades, why would anyone question that she loved him, especially when there is no proof of that?
If she’s a gold-digger, then she’s a wholly incompetent one. She could have had a kid with him – payouts for 18 years – plus they were married, so she could have gone after his serious earnings. She just wanted out, and donated her settlement (way below expected and entitled levels) to charity. Not sure how that’s gold digging.
And wasn’t there evidence Elon Musk was after her for years, too?
Having said all that: usual disclaimer in that she could be gold digging all day long, and it wouldn’t justify abuse. And that we always sneer at the attractive women who settle for money, without side-eying the men who are in effect buying them.
Johnny Depp fangirls will defend him no matter what. Even with the video (which I consider abusive) and with photos and witnesses, they will NEVER believe he can do anything wrong.
Every Time I see him it comes to my mind the quote that says: “The face you have at age 25 is the face God gave you, but the face you have after 50 is the face you earned”.
…or maybe he has not yet reached full form. He could still mutate into a sweaty pile of putrid scarves; give it time
Let us pray.
JEM, you win the internet today.
*Hands over gold trophy shaped like a modem*
Well I hope Disney thinks their money is well spent on this …. man.
Nothing says “Disney” like wife beating.
Disney has been a ‘no’ for me for some time anyway, but the fact they dumped Rebel Wilson due to her being ‘problematic’ after a magazine called her a liar (which she has now successfully sued them for, and they’re going to pay big time), yet stuck with Depp after wife-beating…Just no. Even if they don’t believe he did it, it’s still got to be far more ‘problematic’ than not revealing your true age (the horror!).
“Rebel Wilson” did lie about, well, everything. Age, family, name, class background, life experiences, etc. Her win was absurd. It was about the truth being bad for her (fake) brand.
Ankhel –
Rebel did not lie about those things. I suggest you familiarize yourself with legit news sources who covered the trial. In fact, the magazine in question publised that information knowing full well that it was false.
…and drug abuse and alcoholism. )-:
Can’t believe I heavily crushed on this guy growing up. He’s revealed himself to be a real douchbag.
Right?!? I loved Depp in 21 Jump Street. So dreamy… and now he’s a nightmare. Disgusting!
Same. Sad because I used to love him. Now I can’t even look at photos of him without becoming nauseous.
Depp does occasional charitable ‘nice-guy’ things, like visit sick kids – which is awesome – but it means he gets a pass on his POS ways. Which have always been there. He has a history of being a POS just as much as his history of being a ‘nice guy’. People aren’t all good or all bad, but, the assaults he has laid out on people should stop getting white washed just because he can behave in a decent manner at times too.
Putin visits sick kids in hospitals, as well, yet no-one — aside from The Orange One — would ever claim he is a good guy. I don´t understand HOW and WHY people still defend Depp.
His visits are “surprise” with lots of pictures, videos and PR statements everything to make people forget the arse he is in real life.
What?? EEWW!! They let that thing near sick children??!! EEWWW!!!
I wonder if that other incident is why Vanessa Paradis packed up and left so quickly and with so much of his money.
I remember a poster on her saying they personally witnessed Depp assaulting Paradis some years back, when they (the poster) were on holiday.
This excerpt grabbed my attention. Alarming? … Depp was “interviewed by public authorities relating to a serious and troubling issue involving his family (that was entirely separate and apart from his marriage to Amber Heard.)”
Might explain why Paradis jumped to his defense. Still, that excerpt is very concerning
Thats the blind item I want solved. We know the incident involved both the authorities and a large pay out, so what could it? Vanessa was one of those busy bodies who issued statements to defend Depp when Amber came forward though. So if this incident involved her and she later went out of her to publicly discredit Ambers claims, she should burn in hell.
@craven, agreed.
I have much sympathy for victims. victims who tar other victims and work with their abusers are past my limit.
I hope this is not true.
That was probably me. I didn’t personally witness it, but I met a few people who did, locals in the Caribbean from whom the family rented a catamaran. He got violent on board with his daughter present, staff intervened, and he was kicked off the whole island. I know it’s total hearsay, but their details suddenly seemed a LOT more credible when Amber’s texts and photos started coming out.
@Brittney B I remember your comment from when you first made it, and I have been trying to remember the name of the island you mentioned but I could not remember. Which island did that happen on?
I always remember a little-known story about Depp when he was with a pregnant Paradis at a London restaurant – there were photographers OUTSIDE of the place and he took a piece of wood that was propping open the restaurant door and started fully swinging at them. To “defend” his pregnant girlfriend. That kind of aggression is horrifying.
I adored Depp as a teenager, too. I chose to pay little attention to the stories of his violent and erratic behavior because I couldn’t quite grasp their weight yet. I’m completely disgusted by the man now.
Weren’t there all kinds of destroyed hotel room stories and destruction of her property when he was with Kate Moss? Anyway, I find him really gross now. I always believed Amber. Why does everyone put this on her? He was the one falling all over himself sounding like a fool in every interview, trophying her around for all to see just months after he left his wife, bragging about how great she was at every opportunity, having a full blown mid life crisis before our eyes. How is she a conniving gold digger that trapped him again?
Depp has had issues with violence for YEARS.
The emails also show money was becoming a big concern before he started up with Heard, which is good because I’ve seen a lot of people who believe the abuse claims still try and imply Heard was partly responsible for his money problems and general downfall.
He became a bit more public when he was with her, which I think led people to think the alcohol issues and reckless spending were new, as they’d never seen it during the years he was with Paradis. In actual fact he’s lived beyond his means and spent his days boozing for a very long time, but it was less obvious when he was often secluded in France and on his island. Harder to hide in LA.
I remember an old french journalist interview, where it was explained some stars were untouchables because audiences loved them, and won’t take well their dark side scandals, and turn against the tabloids.
In France paradis and depp (last years of beauty peak) were the bobo (bourgeois boheme) ideal couple, rich successful nice luxury hippies.
So stories about how pregnancy helped paradis to keep the hollywood star (if amber heard is goldigger, paradis is a starfucker she infamously was called out by a former french star boyfriend for leaving him when he had problems) and great public disagreements and worse were shut here.
So we only have paradis praising him interviews in french medias (even when her being cheated on and left for amber was public knowledge) and sweet showing of the couple at the cesars ceremony
@Jeesie, alcoholism is harder to hide in LA, but Brad made it look easy.
Unfortunately his supporters and most of the general public won’t see this info or believe it.Amber will always be the lying gold digger in most people’s minds Let’s see if TMZ mentions it.SMH
At some point during the last three years Depp transmogrified from vine-tending, old boot wearing, French speaking, all round hottie into a wife beating loser of the highest order.
Has there ever been a fall from grace this spectacular?
Last three years?
He was known to be druggie and violent on the 21 Jump Street set in his 20s, but incidents were hushed up.
He was violent and druggie with Kate Moss, but that was sold as passion and epic love.
Winona Ryder is said to be traumatised by her time with him.
Vanessa seemed to calm him down, but he spent extravagantly, went scarfy hobo and perfected his keith Richards cosplay on her watch. His physical being gradually deteriorated whilst he was with her though most people overlooked it. So was he truly calmer and controlled or was his PR simply better during this period because he was protected by the mighty disney machine for whom he was churning out mega hit after mega hit and every media outlet in the world wasn’t going to cuallenge the disney machine?
Then along came Amber, which coincided with back to back flops and suddenly he is tarnished on every side, disney doesn’t care about protecting him and Vanessa bails. He appears to revert back to old Johnny except that this time he is older so it looks like a midlife crisis after a period of calm instead of reverse or exposure of his ongoing true persona, but Amber was blamed.
So many theories……🤔
To add to this:
– He got fired from 21 Jump Street for assaulting a director/producer. He used to turn up late and drunk to set
– When with Kate Moss he trashed a hotel room in a rage
He has ALWAYS been a substance/alcohol abuse rage freak. Tim Burton is the one who gave him his current career as after his sacking from 21 Jump St no one would hire him as his rep was soo bad.
Wow. I didn’t know about his history going back to 21 Jump or the rest with Moss and Ryder.
Winona Ryder praised Depp http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/winona-ryder-defense-of-johnny-depp-means-nothing_us_57715471e4b0dbb1bbbb42ed
Winona praised him in the context of Amber to discredit her abuse claims. And it was very strange for Winona, who hasn’t been in contact with JD since they broke up over 20yrs ago suddenly came out of the woodwork to defend him.
The relationship was sold as a big love to the public just like Kate Moss, and it probably was a big love, but that doesn’t mean he wasn’t drgged out and violent towards them or around them.
This is a man who bragged about his ‘hillbilly rage’ in an interview whilst he was with Winona.
Both Winona and Vanessa made stupid supportive statements about Johnny at the peak of Ambers vilification for reporting him. Even if they had truly never seen that side of him, the correct thing would have been to shut their trap and let the matter play out. But these two knew that the media operates on pull out quotes and that either they will be placed as Team Amber or Team Johnny which would harm the other party in the court of public opinion but still went on to flap their gums. Johnny is a shitheel and both Vanessa and Winona are gross.
He was also deeply involved in the Viper Room, and was implicated in the death of a person testifying against his business interests, claiming Johnny had defrauded him of millions.
Depps financial and emotional problems have been bubbling below the surface for a long time.
Where did you read that because i saw an interview where he said he was offered a part on Nightmare on Elm Street and told the director for 21 Jump St. about it and not to worry because he would finish his contract and the director said it was a good career move for him and he would be let out of the contact. And I also saw an interview with the director who said he respected Johnny’s integrity which is why he let him out of the contract to finish the series.
I’m loving all this. They’re coming for the jugular. That being said, this man really is the embodiment of the worst aspect of Hollywood, Depp thought he could buy his way out of everything. In a sense he did with Amber Heard but I get the feeling that this procedure is going to cost him a lot and I’m not just talking about money. Also is sister seems shady as f%ck.
It seems all the 90’s heartthrobs are being exposed. Cruise, Pitt, Affleck, Depp. Who’s next, Damon?
Damon played a big role in minimizing Casey Affleck’s sexual harassment cases. It would not surprise me if he has similar issues with sexual misconduct.
I’ve struggled to like Damon since the way he treated Minnie Driver.
Driver later admitted she and Damon had already broken up when he talked about it on Oprah. She made up the whole I got dumped on TV thing. She has her own issues.
I’m not worried about Keanu. He’ll be just fine.
Keanu, Denzel, and Tom Hanks are the only likeable ones left. I toss in DiCaprio, too.
@Millenial – Dicaprio got Picasso and Basquiat artwork gifted to him with the proceeds of money stolen from Malaysian public funds by a ‘close friend’, so yeah, he’s not so likeable any more either.
Millenial….Denzel is not so good. He isn’t hitting people, but let’s say his wife has been a very accepting woman.
@ teacakes
Interestingly Malaysia doesn’t persecute those figures although they wasted the Malaysian’s taxpayers money. Maybe, because I don’t know the rules for that fund.
Interestingly only the US do persecute these figures. Interestingly I haven’t heard US courts say that they would restitute the money to Malaysia. ???
Keanu will stay the last decent 90’s star standing. all the other big ones have been shady.
Denzel is a serial cheater so, no.
Doesn’t Denzel have a (not-so-secret) second family? I vaguely remember reading this somewhere.
I have never heard a bad word about Keanu from crew or people in the industry here in LA. I met him a couple of times at parties and he is lovely, genuinely sweet. He has a great reputation. Literally the anti–Johnny Depp.
The whole controversy with Effie Brown already left a bad taste in my mouth.
What is this about?
It’s about Damon whitesplaining and mansplaining to a WoC, one who happens to be very talented and capable in her own right, no unsolicited and condescending white male input needed.
He is a piece of trash, he abused Amber heard and then paid and bribed Hollywood pals and TMZ to run a defamatory campaign against the victim, I lost all respect for him and for the gang of privilege male Hollywood POS that defended him.
+ 1,000. They are all TRASH.
Not surprising. It has been clear since Amber Heard got away from him that he was lying.
He and his entourage (including jimmy Kimmel, JK Rowling -who went defended him but is so against abusers and violence, how ironic- and his close friends) are Hollywood privileged people that are above law and morals and yet have deplorable followers to trash the victims.
Maybe he will be president candidate next election.
I’ve lost so much respect for Rowling. She believes her own hype way too much when it comes to ‘speaking up’ for things. She’s done some questionable mouthing off about a handful of things that I really just can’t respect.
Like what? Other than defending Depp (Which I don’t really understand) what has she ever done that was problematic?
actually in her defense, Depp was already cast and filmed his part in the first FB movie before his marriage blew up. She was in a tough spot because the case never went to trial and they settled out of court. If they broke his contract he would sue them big time and win….
What a massive mess he turned into. No sympathy for him though.
This just verified what a scumbag he really is, with the added bonus of yet more bystanders who did nothing to help that woman.
Agreed – all of the men on his payroll covered up for his abusive behavior. I wonder if they have wives, daughters, nieces who have been victims. Would they stand up for them because they were not on the abusers payroll?
Noooooo not Matt Damon! That would break my heart. Although I did lose a lot of respect for him after the Casey stuff. But he’s been doing PR work for the Afflecks for yeeeears.
They are friends since their childhood in Boston.They even are cousins.Obviously Damon defends Affleck Bros
Not shocking at all.
I just wish Amber the best. I hope her role in Aquaman is good and leads her to better acting parts. I also wish her happiness with Elon Musk, who likely treats her far, far better than JD did.
That charity will never see their money unless Johnny unloads some of his homes and whatnot. Well played by Amber. She knew how broke he was and this makes him look even douchier – stiffing a charity for millions. 😉
What charity did he stiff, Cali?
I don’t remember the specifics, but all the payout was to go to abused women’s shelters, none to Amber.
Elon Musk isn’t a great partner either, I’m not sure she’s made the safest of choices there.
Management company gets no respect from me, they KNEW Heard was telling the truth but chose to protect Depp by staying silent. Now that there’s been a falling out, they’re finally talking about it publicly. F-ck them!
Isn’t it illegal to witness/know of a crime and not report it? It is in BC, but rarely is someone charged with it, apparently.
Well, they weren’t witnesses themselves, they just found out through first hand witnesses that it happened.
The reason they likely couldn’t disclose it before was probably because of an NDA. It’s now fair game for them to say they knew of this through other accounts because it is being used as proof of Debt’s character.
This +10000000000000000000000
I see him everywhere in Chanel fragrance commercials and ads. It pisses me off. I’m sure he needs that money, but Chanel should be ashamed. Plus, who in the fresh hell is buying a fragrance that he’s endorsing? He looks like he hasn’t showered in over a year, at least not with actual soap. Gross.
His collaboration with Chanel is the least ergregious collaboration that company has done.
Coco was a nazi sympathiser and collaborator during their occupation of France. It’s one of the reasons her company survived the war.
http://www.newyorker.com/books/page-turner/the-exchange-coco-chanel-and-the-nazi-party
My husband just saw that ad on tv over the weekend and literally said, “WTF! That’s Johnny Depp? What is he thinking?” This came from a man who doesn’t give a fig about pop culture. So, yeah, Johnny is super close to being over and done with.
It’s weird that women can do perfume ads and their career is fine, but men can’t do cologne ads without it being the end of their career. Jumping the Shark type of thing.
Although, Brad Pitt survived his cheesy cologne commercials (was that also Chanel? I don’t remember).
He’s the face of a Dior cologne, not a Chanel one.
His daughter is working with Chanel though.
Yes, you’re right Jessie….I had to laugh at this because clearly the commercials/ads aren’t even worth remembering. Just ew.
He really looks like hell. Alcoholism has taken it’s toll on him as has his heavy smoking. Sad to see such a great looking guy and great actor going down like this.
So they could have vindicated Amber and solved their problems with Depp by distancing themselves then but chose not to? How disgusting.
Another upstanding group of citizens who put money before honour. They probably consider themselves decent people.
He is a mess and believes he’s entitled to splash his mess all over those around him leaving collateral damage. BUT, this management group is toast. They are worse filth than he has the brains or wherewithal to be. They are the filth at the helm of filth. And they will lose badly. The more they throw up a smoke screen by trying to distract from their illegal activity, the more I know they’re guilty as sin.
I imagine him, and let’s say Steven Tyler too, sitting in front of a vanity covered in dirty scarves, earrings, bracelets, rings and probably a few wigs, next to a closet filled with scummy torn mismatched clothing trying to decide which ones they will pile on for the day. Must take forever to get all that crap off after. And I think a necklace and bracelet might be too much!
LOL! At least Steven Tyler looks clean.
All of you on this site should be admired: You stood by your convictions from the very beginning until the vindicating end, never once wavering despite what can only be described as a “Machine” up against Miss Heard and anyone coming to her defense. I salute you.
Now it is Mr. Depp who needs our sympathy and understanding. The very people who thought they were protecting him by lying for him while grinding others down only harmed their “Emperor” who is quite clearly a very ill man. He needed to see a neurologist years ago (around 2012) to be tested for a common type of dementia called frontotemporal dementia that tends to strike people 45 to 62 years old, which in its initial stage is wrongly called “midlife crisis.”
He is not sick or have dementia, he is an abusive addict that is also a privileged white male actor in a bigotry Hollywood manchine.
So he and his entire gang and deplorable fans will continue to trash and troll Amber heard and he will be keep his inocent little lost boy image, the trouble victim artist.
I don’t sympathize or will be understanding, he is the abuser, I sympathize and wish the best for the victim.
I hope karma will keep working.
IMO:
He is terminally ill. The disease has spread to his left frontal/temporal lobes now affecting his speech.
While I agree with your initial paragraph, the rest is the definition of an armchair diagnosis. We don’t know what might be causing slurred speech, it could be alcohol, which he clearly has a problem with. Depp has been troubled since the start of his career, well before 45.
I want to know what this is about: he was “interviewed by public authorities relating to a serious and troubling issue involving his family” that has nothing to do with his marriage to Amber Heard.
Did he abuse his ex Vanessa Paradis or did he abuse or neglect his children? If he did, Vanessa Paradis lied about it. I wonder if more will come out about this.
I really don’t care for him. Disgusting.
That is a really gorgeous suit, he is wearing.
Thats about all the positive things I have to say about this guy at this point.
Cant believe I adored him for most of my life.
So we’re supposed to believe these things TMG is saying they heard from other people? TMG forged his signature, did fake notaries, didn’t pay his taxes for 10 years, took millions of dollars for themselves without a contract and we’re just supposed to believe them? They know they are in trouble big time.
Nothing has been proved yet on either side. This is why there is a lawsuit. Both sides are claiming the other is lying. I guess we will have to wait and see what happens with the court case. Maybe more information will be revealed. Unless, of course, they settle. Then we may never know the truth.