Sofia Coppola’s press tour to promote The Beguiled turned out to be surprisingly controversial. The problem was that Sofia used well-known source material, in the form of a bestselling novel, and it was a novel which had already been made into a popular film in the 1970s starring Clint Eastwood. The problem was that people already knew that the source material and the first film included a significant supporting role for an African-American actress, that of a former slave who was “left behind” during the Civil War, just like all of the white women. Sofia adapted her own script, and she excised the character.
In the past month, Sofia has struggled to explain her decision to excise the character, and that struggle is what I found particularly offensive. It’s one thing to excise a character you find problematic and two-dimensional in the service of telling a larger story. It’s another thing altogether to excise the only woman of color from the story because you lack the imagination to add depth and dimension to a character. The way Sofia explained her decision made it seem like she truly believed that only white women get to be part of “universal” stories, or that erasure of a black character was her only option… instead of merely using her writer’s skills to fill out the character. Well, Sofia is still thinking about the backlash she got, and she decided to address it head-on, in a statement to IndieWire. Here’s what she wrote:
There have been some questions regarding my approach to my new film, “The Beguiled.” More specifically, there have been objections to my decision not to include the slave character, Mattie, in Thomas Cullinan’s book on which my film is based. I would like to clarify this.
My film is set in a Southern school for girls at the point in the Civil War when the men had been away fighting for some time and the Union had gained momentum. According to historians and several women’s journals from the time, many slaves had departed, and a great number of white women of the South were left in isolation, holding on to a world whose time had rightly come to an end—a world built on slave labor.
I wanted to tell the story of the isolation of these women, cut off from the world and in denial of a changing world. I also focused on how they deal with repression and desire when a man comes in to their abandoned world, and how this situation affects each of them, being at different stages of their life and development. I thought there were universal themes, about desire and male and female power dynamics that could relate to all women.
The circumstances in which the women in my story find themselves are historically accurate—and not a distortion of history, as some have claimed.
From “Mothers of Invention” by Drew Gilpin Faust: “War and emancipation revealed that many white women felt themselves entirely ignorant about how to perform basic functions of everyday life…A war that had at the outset made so many women feel useless and irrelevant soon demanded significant labor and sacrifice from even the most privileged southern females…”
Throughout the film, we see students and teachers trying to hold on to their crumbling way of life. Eventually, they even lock themselves up and sever all ties to the outside world in order to perpetuate a reality that has only become a fantasy. My intentions in choosing to make a film in this world were not to celebrate a way of life whose time was over, but rather to explore the high cost of denial and repression.
In his 1966 novel, Thomas Cullinan made the choice to include a slave, Mattie, as a side-character. He wrote in his idea of Mattie’s voice, and she is the only one who doesn’t speak proper English—her voice is not even grammatically transcribed. I did not want to perpetuate an objectionable stereotype where facts and history supported my choice of setting the story of these white women in complete isolation, after the slaves had escaped. Moreover, I felt that to treat slavery as a side-plot would be insulting.
There are many examples of how slaves have been appropriated and “given a voice” by white artists. Rather than an act of denial, my decision of not including Mattie in the film comes from respect. Some have said that it is not responsible to make a film set during the Civil War and not deal directly with slavery and feature slave characters. I did not think so in preparing this film, but have been thinking about this and will continue to do so. But it has been disheartening to hear my artistic choices, grounded in historical facts, being characterized as insensitive when my intention was the opposite. I sincerely hope this discussion brings attention to the industry for the need for more films from the voices of filmmakers of color and to include more points of views and histories.
Don’t get me wrong, I partly understand her point, that she felt uncomfortable trying to give the character a voice, and she felt uncomfortable treating Mattie as a subplot, or coming across as a patronizing towards America’s history of actual human bondage. But in her desire to simply avoid patronizing a complicated subject and a problematic character (in the source material), she’s once again making her central point, which is also pretty awful: that white artists believe that only white stories get to be universal. She keeps emphasizing that the story she wanted to tell was about “these women” – as in, only the white women. The former slave is denied her womanhood even in fictional representation. As for the historical accuracy – many, many slaves abandoned the plantations during the war, that’s true. But some stayed. And as a writer, she could have made it work.
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Sofia managed to get Versailles as a filming location when she was making Marie Antoinette. It doesn’t hold water that she was so helplessly unable to tell a story about a character who wasn’t a white woman. To argue that it wasn’t that she didn’t care, but that she actually cared too much is disingenuous. She’s only interested in the stories of privileged white women.
Thank you!
It’s a shame she made such a blind, boneheaded decision because the rest of the movie was a great look at the way men project their rage and inadequacies on women. A character study on the intersection of racism and sexism would have fit right in.
I just finished the book, haven’t seen the movie yet. In the book Kirsten Dunst’s character (Edwina) is of mixed race with darker hair and skin. She fears her black ancestry becoming known and it is central to her struggle. So I guess that character plot line is altered significantly in the movie. In the book only one character has blonde hair, seems like lots of blonde ladies in the movie.
In Sofia’s world, only blonde white women matter. As she struggled with a non white character, so she would struggle with a dark haired white woman.
@ LAK does this woman have some deep rooted issues we don’t know about, she seems fixeted on the ‘pale,blonde.blue eyed’ woman. She must have some insecurities of her own.
@Loopy-
It’s ironic & kinda sad.
Especially with Coppola being a dark-haired, dark-eyed, woman herself, it’s gotta be a projection of something surely.
Loopy: she must do. It’s creepy. Sorta like Hitchcock and his blonde white women fixation.
@LAK, but Hitchcock actually did have several non-blondes in his films: Joan Fontaine, Ingrid Bergman, Suzanne Pleshette and Ruth Roman. That’s just off the top of my head. I’m sure there are more.
WTW: yes he did, but his blonde obsession is very well documented. He was super obsessed with his blonde actresses to the point where he would be deemed a creepy stalker and possibly jailed in modern times.
@WTW 4 Non-Blondes?
@MyHiddles, nice! LOL
@LAK, for sure, Hitch had a definite type. I know all about Tippi Hedren, etc. But I was saying even he, known for the Hitchcock blonde, had more diverse casting choices than Ms. Coppola, which says a LOT.
Myhiddles: lol. Yes!!
WTW: yep!!
Growing up in Hollywood, it would make sense to me if someone like Coppola had some sort of issue with blondes. That definition of beauty has been upheld by Hollywood and American media for so long. This isn’t to excuse Coppola, but it would make a little sense if she had hang ups/preoccupation/stigmas tied to blonde women.
Gotta love how blonde, white, Kirsten Dunst is cast as a mixed race character. SMDH.
Re Sophia, I can see looking at the book and thinking, “ugh, this dialogue!” but there are ways to make it work.
Personally, I think white folks have made enough movies about those times.
LMAO, just when you thought it couldn’t get any worse.
I know that this will come as a shock, Sofia-but did you know that actual black people fought and died in the Civil War and that the women left behind in isolation weren’t all white?
Every time she tries to defend this she just makes it worse.
Coppola does not even seem aware that brunette women exist!
I think Sofia’s explanation would make sense if the previous movie and the book had no black women, and this was an original work she created. I doubt she’d face as much backlash. But she can’t play the “all-the-slaves-left” card when white men from decades ago saw fit to include women of color. Hell, Cullinan had not only Mattie/Hallie but a mixed-race woman passing for white. Had Coppola included both of these women, her film likely would have gotten much more support. Also, I don’t understand her argument that Mattie didn’t speak grammatically correct English. So, what? That doesn’t make the character stereotypical, it makes her uneducated, which most slaves were. Plenty of movie characters of all races don’t speak proper English; that doesn’t make them stereotypical necessarily, and it doesn’t mean they can’t be three-dimensional characters. And if this really bothered Coppola, she could’ve made Hallie the rare educated slave who learned to read, write and speak proper English from being at the school.
Exactly WTW vis a vis source material.
Her argument about Mattie’s english simply shows the limitations of her imagination and skillset.
If she felt inspired about the relationships among the white women and then among the women and the male soldier and thought these stories could carry a movie and make it fascinating and worthwhile … then she has the right to have that vision. She does not have to make the end-all, be-all movie. She does not have to follow the original writer. Would people be less unhappy about the treatment if she had changed the name of the film? Judge the movie she made. To judge it by what’s not in it rather than what is in it … just sounds like reaching. If it sounds thin and uninteresting, same-old-stuff, don’t go see it. So, I’m with Pineapple down below. Didn’t realize this movie from a 50-year best-seller, with a plot set a 100 years before that, was supposed to be feminist.
Luna: yes and no.
Yes we should judge tye movie she made on it’s own merits and no, we shouldn’t ignore the terrible reasoning behind her choices.
She’s screwing up the answer to the question about inspiration by denigrating the black character. She repeatedly reduces the black character to race and doesn’t see that character as a woman in her many attempts to tell us about the inspiration and thought process behind her choices. In her own words, the white WOMEN are experiencing something universal, but the BLACK CHARACTER can only be BLACK and nothing more. Especially when horror of horrors they speak in grammatically incorrect english.
Seriously, if this was a painting and one was asked why she chose watercolours rather than oils, and she gave a BS response, you’d call them out immediately.
I saw this movie on the 4th when I tried seeing Megan Leavy and it was sold out. This movie was b-o-r-i-n-g. B-O-R-I-N-G. The entire time I kept thinking how much more interesting it would have been if the cast was diverse. If I spent more than my $5 I would have been angry at the waste of money. The only highlight was when Colin Farrell went crazy.
Yeah WOM has been meh big-time.
It’s not going to make the $20 million domestic once considered a given for a small scale movie with this level of attention/famous names.
According to awards watch it’s going to need overseas booty to make profit.
She didn’t want to have to address the fact that her protagonists were also the foundation of white supremacy. It was to protect their delicate hands that little girls were ripped from their mothers breasts and sold to service their kitchens and husbands beds.
The fact is THAT’S a much more interesting story to tell. How do these white women respond when the white soldier in their midst that they are all pining after, puts his attention on the black girl. Whats the black girls response to this attention? Is it too reminiscent of old abuses Is she finally in a position to give free consent? In what other ways are the womens different generational and racial experiences of this man similar or different? Sophia lacks vision. She told the blandest story possible.
What?!?
…she’s a black character!!
Can’t compute! can’t compute! can’t compute!
(Inside Sofia’s brain)
This is the crux of the situation. Sofia didn’t want to have to tackle a story about women empowerment with the uncomfortable spectrum that these women we should be rooting for are engaged in discrimination as well.
This! This is a film I would have loved to watch.
” Moreover, I felt that to treat slavery as a side-plot would be insulting.”..it’s more insulting to erase the character. The character had a powerful voice. She was central and not a side-plot. Just say i didn’t want anything to do with Black history and focus on white women. Because thought the movie was kind of beautiful you i couldn’t help but feel the absence of the voice of the slave woman. it’s a slap in the face for Black women.
Yea she can still have all the seats.
Meh, the woman admitted she doesn’t have the range. There’s a nuance, sensitivity, and openness one has to exhibit in order to tell some stories. Coppolla said she doesn’t have it (that’s fine for me) – though she’s wrapping that truth in ahistorical longwinded nonsense.
Eh, she had the pull to rent Versailles, I’m sure she had the pull to hire a consultant.
To be honest, I also found this movie pretty sexist. Was I supposed to find a deeper message in these women competing for Colin Farrell’s attention and acting reprehensibly as a result?
This! I sat there watching, thinking – “Really?! This is a feminist perspective?!” The scene where they were all dressed up in their best, happy to have a “gentlemen caller” in the house was cringe worthy.
i haven’t watched this film yet, but i did power through the book, and the book is pretty sexist too, imho.
[possible book spoilers]………
basically, the book chapters flip back and forth between the voices of the female characters, and they’re all pretty much shallow and back-stabby, except for Mattie (the slave character). it’s literally a book about these cooped up women hating each other and trying to sabotage each other, and i read it as a commentary about how the author apparently thinks repressed women lose their minds when in the presence of a dude. it’s pretty unrealistic that in a house with several people, there are no true friendships or alliances.
there is an interesting incest sub-plot in the book that gets nixed in the film.
Yeah, I didnt see the feminism worship either. I mean the plot and the characters actions are all dependant on the male character.
The director should be able to make whatever movie he or she wants, any way she wants. If someone doesn’t like something about it – make your own movie!
She did make the film that she wanted to make… and people are criticising her for her choices. What don’t you get about it?
So if in your town all the restaurants are not up to the standard of hygiene and serve bland food you have to open your own? You’re not allowed, as costumer, to make constructive criticism?
@pineapple I’m with you on this. Don’t like it , don’t see it.
Even if she had left the character in and did her own interpretation of her or kept her part *exactly* the same as the book portrayed her, people would still have something negative to say about it.
She’s saying that by giving these white women a slave woman would give them some piece of the former way of life, and they could still depend on her as a servant for the things they have never had to do. If they’re left totally alone, they have no resources but themselves, sink or swim. She wanted to remove that safety net.
Maybe she should have written her own script from scratch instead of butchering someone else’s work. Just a thought…
But Hattie is a person. The institution of slavery had been abolished. Who said Hattie had to remain a slave. Both white and black women had to come to a significant reckoning after slavery. Each had to sink or swim with emancipation.
Hattie is a character from a book that was turned into a movie. She is not a real person. I’m not trying to be rude but people are getting so hyped up and losing sleep over this work of fiction that it’s ridiculous. Yes, I know there were *real* slaves that shared a similar struggle to Hattie’s but this is a work of FICTION. It was left open to the creative interpretation of Sofia and she left her out. It’s that simple. It is not that serious.
She should have written her own script. People get angry many times when a character is cut out of a movie. But this is about the Civil War and she cut out a black character. Why bother with it all.
She still does not get it and more than likely never will because then she would have to confront her own biases. If she was trying to be historically accurate then she should have kept Mattie in the story. The Emancipation Proclamation did not end slavery and neither did the end of the Civil War . Some blacks did not even know about either event for several years after they happened. If we are honest, slavery did not end in the United States for blacks until 1964.
It is like I said a few posts ago about this same issue. She only wanted to make a film where the white women could be the perfect victims to Colin Farrell’s character. She inadvertently touches on that in that stupid letter. No one said she was celebrating antebellum life and for her to take the criticism that way shows that she is not really listening to what people have been saying. White women in this country, especially during the time that this story is set, are both victims and bullies. That quote she used sums up everything that she wanted to portray in this film and is the exact problem we have been trying to address with her.
“War and emancipation revealed that many white women felt themselves entirely ignorant about how to perform basic functions of everyday life…A war that had at the outset made so many women feel useless and irrelevant soon demanded significant labor and sacrifice from even the most privileged southern females…”
She wants to infantalize white women. Only mention how they were victims of white male patriarchy who now have to take care of themselves for the first time in their lives. But, she doesn’t mention WHO had to take care of those women before, what happened to those people, and why they may have left. Her story is incomplete. If she mentions white women’s part in keeping up slavery and institutional racism in the south, those white women are no longer pure victims but willing or unwilling accomplices in the oppression of blacks and other minorities. No one would feel sorry for those women, so she removed Mattie.
She and a lot of people who are siding with her on this subject need to read “Slavery By Another Name: the Re-Enslavement of Black Americans From the Civil War to World War II”
Well said!
While I agree w most of your post, there is a factual error:”…slavery did not end for blacks until 1964.” What definition of slavery are you basing this statement on? B/c, in the standard, accurate definition of slavery, it means people who have NO rights whatsoever, no voice, no options, who are commanded by others to do labor–of any kind– against their will. They have no vote, and no chance at any other options. And, while blacks to this day are oppressed and discriminated against and marginalized, they have *not* been actual *slaves*–even the last of them–since around 1870. (Some were not made aware of slavery’s end for several years after slavery’s official termination, and their “masters” were all too eager to take advantage of this.) To claim that blacks were truly slaves well into the 20th century is just factually utterly wrong. It is also, I feel, genuinely offensive and disrespectful to the millions of black Americans who ACTUALLY lived (or existed) as *real* slaves, for centuries—and to those who still are, even now, entrenched in active, true slavery around the world.
If you had read to the end of my post you would have seen that I left the title of a book that backs up my statement. There is also a PBS documentary based on the title of the book.
If you have read the book or watched the documentary, what research can you provide me with to discredit the sources in the documentary or the book that I mentioned? Where did you find that research?
I am not going to respond to the rest of your defensive comment until after you watch the documentary or read the book.
Excuses excuses excuses. I think she’s uncomfortable with the African-American struggle in general because bad things happened that make her feel icky. Weak.
Dear Sofia:
Shut. Up. Already.
That is all.
Again, she’s framing white female stories as “universal”, but still reducing Mattie to “a slave character”……I’m tired y’all.
So, if she was asking for money for her film and I was in the jury (humble, I know) I would have felt that this is a film belonging to the past, where we started exploring on film the desire and inner/outer conflicts of rich white women because they hadn’t been contemplated in film before (say, in the 60’s and 70’s) and they were the only kind of woman cinema could allow to exist.
So it would have been NO, NO MONEY FOR YOU BRUNETTE WITH ISSUES.
Lol It is weird.
Her films are always a bit too Anthropologie through a sepia lens, tbh.
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Yeah she’s so cancelled for me and so is this movie. Like I need to see another version of “poor rich white lady doesn’t know how to clean without help from slaves or live without protection from men” look what largest demographic voted for 45 – the same same chicas! we get it Sofia, really-we live with these exact kind of “ladies” everyday. Lol seriously she’s beyond tone deaf on this issue and I was a big fan. Now I’m like thanks no thanks
Ehhh… I agree with her decision.
I observe that black people only get to play slave/slave-adjacent characters in high brows historical dramas. It is tedious, contrived and getting to be borderline offensive now. The same script diff cast. Is this supposed to be constructive and helpful?
It is not great to see a stereotypical paint-by-the-numbers version of a PoC in serious movies if there is no real reason for that sort of generalization. Sure, those stereotypes come from somewhere genuine, but really? Yet again some black actress playing the repetitive and reductive ‘slave’ role, and getting the obligatory supporting actress nom?
Not every gay male is Liberace, not every middle aged woman is a mom who has given up on life, and not every white male from the South is a KKK member. And Hollywood casts these roles and actors accordingly. Why should black people, esp. black women, should get a different treatment and only play the ‘slave’?
Snoop Dogg had said he’d had enough of those depressing slave films. I think he was right.
It’s been mentioned by others several times before that Sofia could have expanded on or rewritten Mattie’s character to avoid the stereotypes you mentioned. That’s not insurmountable, but Sofia apparently doesn’t have any skill for that. Or, she could’ve hired a consultant/historical expert to flesh out Mattie’s story, as MANY directors & screenwriters do when writing about characters they’re unfamiliar with. She did neither, which means she’s a director of limited ability and little awareness. She needs to shut up now because her excuses are flimsy and tiresome.
Love your Snoop Dogg reference and agree…i don’t think Sofia could have handled this with nuance and she’s not the person to do it. And with her own issues on fetishing feminine beauty into a very narrow box (in which she herself is not a member), i don’t think she is the answer for any women frankly. Just because she has a vagina doesn’t make her a feminist auteur. She’s really is more of an advertiser than film creator, her job could be great directing style shorts for Vogue. I think that is where her career begins and ends, and without the Coppola name she would have scored high to get that…
I am more interested in stories where women get to portray something we haven’t seen a million times, i.e., Hidden Figures—a true story of brilliant women scientists and mathematicians, these are pop culture visions we NEED. or the upcoming adaption of a Wrinkle in Time dir by Ava Duvernay, with a sci fi young girl as our hero tripping through time and space, transcending racism and giving us humanity.
If we do historical we need to do new and eye opening historical to get over our collective American evilness OR lets create images that move us human beings forward, connect us to each other and environment and species…this film Beguiled seems warmed up and leftover. I agree w up posts that would have sunk it in the water at the story board stage.
Finally! Someone with some common sense and rational logic. Thank you, @77!
So, the person who agrees with your point of view is the only one with “common sense and rational logic”?
@charlotte In my personal opinion, yes. That’s how opinions work, love.
Even though I didnt think the movie was all that (Id maybe give it a C+), I dont totally mind what she has to say here. I think its a no-win situation. If she had kept the character in, people would have complained that it was a token slave character. If she changed the character too much (to not be portrayed as a stereotype or not to be too much as a side), people would have probably complained that it wasnt like the book.
This movie is just a remake.
I guess I’m the minority, but her explanation makes sense to me. From what I remember, the Mattie/Hallie character didn’t have a very relevant role in the story, other than being the black slave girl, which would have got criticism anyway if she’d chosen to put her there. And sure, she could have fleshed out the character, but not without changing the story she wanted to tell and what for? Tokenism? Maybe she wasn’t sure she could actually tell a good story of a black character in that particular environment and she chose not to risk it.
I don’t think removing a slave in this particular story is that bad, considering current sensibilities. I do think Sophia had probably never gave a thought to the need of more diverse casts though until now, so hopefully this experience will help in her next work as a director/writer.
Yes! In her explanation, she kept referring to white women, but Hattie is just a “slave.” She acts as if all the slaves in the south just up and left. How does she explain the large African American population in the south? Yes, many left the place they were kept captive. But many, like these white women, were lost and had a hard time finding their place in society. Wouldn’t Hattie be as confused as these white women? Just cop to it Sofia. You were lazy and didn’t believe the ex-slave was worth a voice.
I hate any thread on this woman for every single time I find it impossible to not berate her for destroying Godfather III. She single handedly ruined the trifecta. Thanks Sophie
That movie was terrible from every aspect. Her performance wasn’t even important enough to ruin it. I continue to refuse to admit it exists.
Everyobody yells at the Beckham’s or to Goop’s father for buying her an Oscar, or I don’t know which family for providing their children connections and works, but to me Sofia Coppola would have been nowhere if her father wasn’t Francis Ford Coppola. She might have some talent, but everytime she speaks she sounds entitled and ignorant.
If the source material was a struggle then she should have picked something else. I can understand feeling at a loss and conflicted about a character but she should have either worked it out or shelved it for later.
Her universal argument is lame. I am not Chinese but I understood Gong Li’s plight in Raise the Red Lantern. Outside of ethnic nuances and cultural experiences we feel the same pain, loss, joy, anger, issues with fertility, motherhood, singlehood …I could go on and on and that is what is universal. This is where her ignorance shows itself the most. Is she implying she can’t empathize with women of color or that she doesn’t know any socially?
She effed up. Acknowledge it sincerely and shut it with the justifications. I can’t with her.
I’m going to call bs that these women could take care of a property and do the upkeep around that crumbling home without having a slave to boss around. Remember – these women were bred and raised to be gentlewomen that didn’t dirty their hands doing common labor. Gimme a break Coppola – this is just another one of your whypipo excuses to back out of writing a woman of color because you’re not interested in telling any stories about POC.
Someone has got her ego hurt so bad..
Seems like Hollywood princess is really pissed she doesn’t get a pass to continue her aryan fantasy on screen without serious and detailed critism anymore.
It must be the first time she is roasted for her own mediocre work, and she discovers bitterly the feeling of being the guilty one but tries so hard to maintain the statu quo.
She is in denial as this polemic may force her to grow out of her luxurious and comfy film niche. As the basis for her aesthetic and subjects are rooted in feminine pastel white supremacy, it could mean having to begin from zero so to gain back her credibility. 😂
As a white woman, I feel that I lack the perspective to comment on the “whitewashing” of this story. As a movie watcher, however, I can unequivocally say this is one of the worst movies I’ve ever seen. The audience (myself included) was LAUGHING at multiple scenes that were intended to be suspenseful and/or dramatic. Save your money, this movie is awful.
Anyone seen The Keeping Room? I didn’t really like it, but it could be used in dialogue with Coppola’s petri dish of fetishes.