On Tuesday, various media outlets got their hands on the birth certificates of Rumi Carter and Sir Carter, Beyonce and Jay’s month-old twins. I actually have no idea if the birth certificates are available via FOIA request, but considering the widespread usage of celebrity babies’ birth certificates, I would assume that is the case. What I’m saying is that it’s unlikely that someone at the hospital “sold” the information to TMZ or E! News or People Magazine. Although I think at least one outlet is stretching the truth a little bit about what the birth certificates reveal. Here’s what we know:
The twins were actually born on June 13th. In Beyonce’ Instagram, published July 14th, she said “one month ago,” which led many to wonder if the Carter Gemini were born on Donald Trump’s birthday (June 14th). They were not. They were born the day before Trump’s birthday.
Rumi Carter is actually older. We initially heard that Sir Carter was the older sibling. Not so. Rumi is one minute older than her brother. So Sir has TWO big sisters.
No middle names. Rumi Carter is Rumi Carter, not Rumi Sherezade Carter or Rumi Tina Carter or whatever. Sir Carter is Sir Carter, not Sir Carter Carter. No middle names. I don’t have a middle name either, so I already feel a kinship with these babies. Two-named people unite!
The doctor. The birth of the Carter Gemini was handled by Dr. Paul Crane, the same doctor who delivered Kim Kardashian’s babies and Kourtney Kardashian’s babies and Blac Chyna’s baby Dream Kardashian. I bet Beyonce hates that, that she used the same doctor as the Kardashians. Maybe the guy is the best obstetrician in LA, who knows?
Beyonce had a C-section? That’s what the Daily Mail claims. The DM wrote: “On Tuesday, the birth certificate for Rumi and Sir Carter was released, revealing the little ones have no middle names and entered the world through C-section.” The birth certificate wouldn’t say whether a baby was born through C-section though? I think the DM is making an educated guess, given the close timing of the twins’ birth – Sir Carter is only one minute younger than his sister, which probably means it was a C-section? Personally, I believe Beyonce had a C-section, and I think that’s why she hasn’t been “look at me, I’m already working out.” I also think she Photoshopped the crap out of her midsection in the babies’ first photo.
Photos courtesy of Beyonce’s Instagram.
I don’t know what middle name would sound right with Sir
“Loin”?
i sputtered out a laughter.
😜😜😜
Great one.
That was hilarious
Hahahhha! *actually laughed out loud!
My offering: Cus
That’s right Sir Cus!
Lmao 😂😂😂😂
OMG that was really good.
You win!
Dying with laughter.
Good one! Glad these babies were born on my birthday, not 45th’s
I was gonna say “Plus”–but yours is better, Giulia!
I googled, Sir Barks-Alot? Sir Albert Whiskers? Sir Nippit Sandport Barksworth? Sir Snuggles of Fluffington?
I mean these are cat names, but still 🙂
Those names! 😂
I have to say I find Sir to be the stupidest, most ridiculous name ever. The Carters are so tacky and nouveau riche so I guess these names are fitting. Just like the Kardashians.
Hilarious !! But the parents invite the ensuing hilarity by choosing names like Sir and Rumi—which makes me think of “rumination,” a cow’s digestive process whereby the cow chews its feed, partially digests it, regurgitates the cud, then chews some more.
Rumi reminds me of the great poet, Rumi.
Sir Highness Carter? Sir Ramic (ceramic ), Sir tainly (certainly )
Love! 😂😂😂
Cumference? Uptiously? Mon-on-the-mount?
Sir taki , just because IT is such a known Dance.
Mix A Lot?
lol Sir-loin – brilliant. How about Sir-repetitious, as in – the twins were born in a sir-repetitious manner by surrogate, as was their big sister, Blue Ivy.
I think it’s really unethical if birth certificates can just be released like that, that should be private.
Yeah – that was weird to me too.
ITA.
Vital records (re. birth, death, marriage licenses, divorce, wills) are considered public records. They are available in many states, if someone wants to obtain a copy.
Multiples are rarely born naturally anyways. It’s a good guess that they were delivered by C-section
And who cares about the doctor. If he’s the best I would use him. Sounds like UCLA is the place to go for celeb births so I’m sure a ton of celebs had the same doctor.
Yeah. I’m thinking this doctor happens to be the best with complicated pregnancies. After the miscarriages I wouldn’t be surprised if this was a nervous pregnancy
In the US, multiples are usually delivered via C-Section. Unless it changed recently, many American medical schools don’t teach breech delivery to students.
Yea they don’t. My friend is an OBGYN (new obviously) and the only reason she knows about breech delivery is because her dad is also an OBGYN and taught her.
My friend had her baby a week ago and she flipped at the last moment. Thus she had a C-section
There are two American teaching hospitals that have protocols to deliver vaginal breech births; one is George Washing University in DC. There are very strict protocols and an external version will be attempted first. Not that I was patient pregnant with a breech baby there or anything.
Twins can be delivered vaginally, but there are very strict protocols and it depends totally on the specific case.
I delivered twins vaginally, one of them breech. They’ll only allow it if the first twin is head down. We had to go to the Strong Memorial Hospital, in Rochester NY. It’s a teaching hospital so they were glad to have the opportunity to do one – the room was full of students! Our Ob-Gyn was a total rock-star.
There were 30 minutes in between my deliveries. (I even had a little nap in between! Thank God for epidurals…). 1 minute could only be a C-section – no one could push the second one out that quickly, not even the Holy Beyonce!
As for her belly – there is NO way it could look like that one month after delivering twins. It takes a while for things to settle down after all that swelling, never mind tighten up! Everyone’s different, of course, but I still looked 6 months pregnant 3-4 weeks after delivery!
@ Jane— bingo!
Mine were sectioned because first twin was breech. And fully agree re: belly.
Long form birth certificates can contain specific information like whether the child was born via C-section or if it was a single or multiple birth or even the order of the children born in a multiple birth. It depends on the issuing authority.
It appears that California law allows anyone to obtain an “informational copy” of a birth record. News outlets probably filed requests for these copies as soon as word leaked that Beyoncé had had her twins, but it may have taken time for the county to officially record the births. At that point I suppose the county would start responding to the informational copy requests.
If only Pres. Obama were born in CA instead of HI… we might have avoided our current president altogether.
I welcome feedback if I’m wrong, but I’m fairly certain almost all multiples are delivered via c-section in the US (if the birth is done in a hospital)
Not all, but oftentimes (where I’ve worked) they will do vaginal deliveries in the OR just in case. We had one poor mom give birth vaginally, then the second baby rotated and they had to do a C-section anyway.
Aw man! That poor woman!!!
That’s just bitchy of the hospital.
That’s what happened with my twins. It looked like they were both able to be delivered vaginally until my second decided to be stubborn, and rotated. Took a little more time to heal
Why does it even matter how she gave birth? I always wonder why it is even newsworthy to know how someone gave birth
It matters to Beyonce worshipers who want to know everything about Queen B
It also matters to a group people who despise her but read everything about her.They are already saying she had plastic surgery after the C section and that’s why she looks so good after giving birth.
It obviously matters to you who not only clicked on the story but scrolled far enough in the comments to reply to the former comment.
I’ve never liked her kind of music, but I have no hate for her. She really seems full of herself lately, but that’s a regular thing for celebrities. A huge problem is when someone makes any kind of comment that’s not 200% positive, her fans attack.Relax. She doesn’t need people she’ll never meet being so overprotective.
Thats because her fans see through it. I am a fan and we know what y’all be thinking even if you don’t say it. Sometimes she’s just shitted on for breathing. Every album, every picture is accompanied by thinkpieces from white womenn who hold Beyoncé to standards nobody else is held to. This is celebitchy but believe we can differentiate between bitchiness, criticism and pure hate
scar What you wrote is the problem. You don’t know what anyone is thinking but think you do and then get offended by something no one said. This is why her
fans get the reputation for being over the top.
Curiosity? But I agree; there’s no easy way to give birth and mode of arrival provides no answers (and we’re not entitled to that anyway).
Because people are nosy. And because there are some people who live in an alternate reality where they beleive a C-Section is seen as easy. I’ve never met a person who had a C-Section who thought is was an easy experience.
I have had 4 C-sections. The first was an emergency C- section after 20 Hrs in labor so Of course that one was very painful. My next C-section my duaghter was born with complications and had to be transfered to a different hospital an hour away. I literally felt no pain at all and was driving myself on no pain medication everday to go see her. Each C-section after that was super easy for me.
@ Merritt I agree. Every woman’s body is different. Even though docs and nurses said I was doing great after my c section that was a difficult process. I had a rough pregnancy, so a lot of things during the c section recovery didn’t phase me, but the process was still rough. I made sure to do things while my pain meds had kicked in. If I didn’t, then it was hell. I actually cried in the hospital trying to walk to the in suite bathroom because I didn’t have enough pain meds. So it’s not an easy way out just a different way to give birth, your body still experiences a trauma and your c section is major surgery. No one should make a woman feel like crap for having one.
How come birth certificates can be released to non-family/trustees etc just like this?
Once a document considered public record is filed, anyone can obtain a copy (usually for a fee). Death certificate, wills, divorce decree — it’s considered public record. So, a news organization or a nosy neighbor/relative could get a copy.
One of the selling points for trusts is that they are not public record, like an estate relying on a will. Again, no one outside the recording office/family will see it after filing, unless someone pursues getting a copy.
@Christin, thanks.
But I still don’t understand WHY birth certificates are considered public records. Even death certificates, wills, divorce decrees at that. BCs for instance are needed for signing up children in nurseries, schools and such, for marriage etc. Death certificates for inheritance, in social cases. Divorce decrees for custody, subsequent marriages etc. And even in those cases, the information might be protected/privileged, eg a school is not allowed to share students’ information. Why would anyone be privy to information concerning only the individuals and families involved? I do not understand. Random people/anyone learning private information – not tabloid gossip wise – could be dangerous? If there is a legal issue, and there might be legal issues that require knowledge pertaining to such records, a lawyer could submit a request while proving that the request is legitimate and to be used for such and such legal issue.
Why is Mindy Kaling going to do? Is she going to put the father’s name on the BC without risking the tabloid learning about that? What about January Jones? Really, what do people do in these cases? Have a separate document at a notary’s office stating who the father is? I am stretching it but not bs-thing here, I am genuinely curious.
If unmarried, the mother can either leave the father’s name blank (with option to amend it later) or name him. Naming the dad requires his signed agreement, if unmarried, in some states.
I cannot remember for certain, but I think January may have left out father’s name. Celebs are probably aware that a tabloid will be waiting to look at that document, once filed.
Beyoncé needs to get over Beyoncé.
For having babies? Nahhhh y’all are full of it. “Beyonce is not a god she’s nothing specialblah blah blah blah” Y’all are full of it.
Kanye West: I’m a god
Jayz: I’m JayHOVA
Drake: 6 God
Eminem:Rap God
Y’all: *crickets*
Beyoncé: post pictures of her babies
Y’all: Who does she think she is? She’s not the virgin Mary. She thinks she’s god. She’s nothing special. Narcissist. Adele just stands there and sings. Burn her at the stake. She thinks she’s better than all of us. She didn’t invent motherhood. Angie wore just a nightgown without makeup. Photoshop! Plastic surgery!
Y’all only think of god when its Beyoncé not Elvis or the Beatles who literally said there were bigger than Jesus. Which brings us back to the point that y’all can’t stand the fact that a black woman is doing well and is respected for her excellence. Y’all will deny it all you want but you know its true.
If you had Beyoncé’s budget you’d be more over the top. All this woman does is put out records and go into hiding and its still not enough for y’all.
I think this response is excessive. Beyoncé does seem to be full of herself lately, and I give plenty of side eye to people like Kanye who call themselves gods. It’s annoying AF no matter who does it.
Go live your life, why are u so angry, like seriously, stop living your life through hers
People are not gonna like her and kiss her ass, deal with it
Wow. That’s a little too much obsession with Beyonce
I can assure you I would never in my life be over the top in a similar manner. Accusing people of racism with no proof makes it so much harder to address it productively and make progress. There are racists who don’t like her because she is black. But not liking her music or her image is not proof.
Yeah, I’m with Scar on this one a bit. She’s not completely wrong. Those usually are the types of comments on any Beyoncé post anywhere (on top of the predictable ones who hypocritically show up on every Beyoncé post to whine about how tired they are of her existing). Last time it was all about her being somehow worse than Kim Kardashian, even though Kim K and her ilk are less talented, more thirsty, more overexposed, and more problematic. That seemed very telling.
My defense of Beyoncé is excessive? Exactly. So you wouldn’t be over the top? Good. Y’all want the woman to disappear and fall off the face of the earth literally (I saw that here). I’m angry? Tell us how you really feel honey. Nowhere did I say you had to like her. But don’t act like Beyoncé doesn’t bring out the irrationality in most of you. This woman could save a baby from a burning building while finding the cure for cancer and you’re still gonna see someome on the comment section of celebitchy telling us how she has to get over herself. I’m not gonna go into it but y’all know damn well what I’m talking about.
@magnoliarose, girl you’re tired okay? Take it easy
@ Scar precisely. Also, Jay Z and Kanye mention of being gods are indicative of their spiritual teaching they follow, however, those “religions” still acknowledge there is a great Creator and god is inside of you. So for them dropping those lines is giving respect to their connection to god. Beyonce using spiritual imagery is how she acknowledges her spiritual association but it does not mean she believes she is literally a goddess. She is simply expressing herself metaphorically. It’s disheartening to see that white women can use religious imagery without the malign that Beyonce receives.
I don’t have a middle name and I always wanted one…that’s all I got.
So if you’re unmarried, if you get married, add one! When I got married a million years ago, it was free to add middles as well as change last (I didn’t change anything, but one could. Team Keep Your Birth Last Name!)
My husband doesn’t have one, other than NMI (which is what some places list — it means ‘no middle initial’). He was a twin, and his mother (and father) could not be bothered to come up with two middle names. Seriously.
She was that ‘overwhelmed’, though she could have just picked her maiden name, their grandfather’s first names or even random hospital workers’ names, instead of subjecting two boys to a lifetime of explaining they have no middle name.
Wait you THINK she photoshopped the hell out of that photo? I’d bet everything I’ve got on it.
maybe she went to him b/c he does c-tucks?
Yes Dr. Paul Crane is the best, even all the doctors in LA know of him. His partner Anthony Chin is every bit as good. I have been a patient of theirs forever.
I don’t get people who say she “need to get over herself.” She’s legitimately accomplished and talented, she has a lot to be proud of. And the few interviews I’ve read of hers, she doesn’t come off as particularly arrogant or anything. I’m sure she wanted a pretty picture of her new babies, we all would. I blew up FB with my son 10 years ago and I’m not famous LOL and this picture isn’t my taste, and I’m not famous or rich, but it’s the same basic principal. You want to show off the new love of your life. And we all like pretty pictures of ourselves.
Agree. But I also love Beyonce so I may be biased 😉
I said it in another thread but I know two people who have and presently work with her. She is very nice and thoughtful. I applaud her success. I am not a fan but it isn’t personal.
My birthday is June 13th. 🙂
Did she really carry them? Didn’t she have a gestational carrier with her first? Sorry I’m not buying it.
This time around she posted a bunch of pregnant photos. I also believe she carried the first but realised the privacy didn’t help when speculation started so she was more open with the twins.