It’s a great moment to be an American royalist, or an American with a passing interest in royalty. Granted, the “Diana Years” were probably the best moment to be an American royalist, because Diana was – and still is – an extremely popular figure in the American media. The Duchess of Cambridge would love to have Diana’s base of support in America, as would Meghan Markle. Meghan will come into the royal family – at some point – with a “leg up” as an American actress too. She already has relationships with the Hollywood-PR-media complex and she knows how things are done. She’ll get more attention and sympathetic coverage in the American media simply because she’s American too.
But there is one thing I loathe about the American coverage of British royalty: most American gossip/celebrity news outlets don’t know what they’re f–king talking about when it comes to royal protocol and the actual rules which royal figures have to follow. Take this Us Weekly cover story, which blatantly makes up this idea that Prince Harry would be allowed to just go off and elope with Meghan Markle. No. That’s not done. Harry would not be allowed to do that.
Wearing a crown never appealed to Prince Harry. In his 20s, the young royal — now fifth in line to the British throne — dreamed of life as a commoner, he revealed in a June interview with UK’s Mail on Sunday. “I spent many years kicking my heels and I didn’t want to grow up,” admitted Harry. But affection for his beloved grandmother (he’s called Queen Elizabeth II “so remarkable”) and a desire to promote key causes — in 2006, he confounded Sentebale to help children affected by AIDS — made him stick it out. Explained Harry, “I felt I wanted out but then decided to stay in and work out a role.”
Now it seems he’s found a princess to serve at his side. For the past 13 months, the 32-year-old former Army helicopter pilot and actress Meghan Markle have built a love affair that’s the stuff of fairy tales. But the courtship hasn’t been without its stresses. The couple have endured 3,000-plus miles of distance — she films Suits in Toronto — and a sometimes harsh public glare. But now the duo are planning for a shared future and Harry’s even tossing out plans for a royal wedding. While the pair have the option of marrying at Westminster Abbey, where Prince William and Duchess Kate exchanged vows in 2011, Harry is envisioning a more far-flung locale, a source reveals in the new issue of Us Weekly. He suggested to Markle, whose own 2011 nuptials to talent manager Trevor Engelson took place on a Jamaica beach, “that they could get married somewhere private and elope,” says the source, “rather than have a showy wedding.”
First, however, there must be a romantic proposal. While one insider says “my money is on a fall engagement,” the source says the royal could get down on bended knee as soon as August 4, Markle’s 36th birthday.
The proposal would be a gift to the actress and himself, explains the source. Noting that Harry generally feels down in August — the month his mother, Princess Diana, was killed in a 1997 car accident — the source says, “He feels getting engaged will lift that gloom forever because he will be able to associate August with something joyful.”
No matter the timing, the prince is ready to commit to forever with Markle. Says the source, “He wants to get married and have kids. He’s smitten.”
What’s the point of marrying an American actress if you’re not going to have a big, showy wedding? Obviously, if and when Harry proposes to Meghan, they will not go off to some beach and elope. The Queen will not allow it. The Church of England will not allow it either. The CoE even recently made a statement that they would be fine with a prince of the realm marrying an American divorcee, meaning that’s what the church is preparing for. That’s what the Queen is preparing for too. And the Queen knows that nothing gives The Firm a big PR boost like a big, splashy royal wedding. Harry and Meghan will probably be married at Westminster, by the Archbishop of Canterbury, and everything will be very stuffy and formal. Harry will hate it, but those are the rules.
Photos courtesy of WENN, cover courtesy of Us Weekly.
Slow news week, US? This sounds like Bad fan fiction.
Sure does. Laughed at this.
Harry and his poor press team WANT these stories out there though, so that we can all feel that the poor widdle boy prince really did want to be low-key, but all those terrible terrible rituals made him have an expensive, lavish wedding.
Based on MM’s history it seems like a bad investment, no matter what.
Good. In light of Brexit and the fact that we’re going through it right now, Britain can’t afford another Royal wedding at the mo. *looks at my shrinking paycheque*
If he had the gumption to really do this he would go up a tiny fraction in my estimation of him – but I doubt it – even though you are right, we have better things to spend the money on than this twerp.
In all seriousness, what *would* happen if he decided to up and do it? Would he be automatically taken out of the line of succession? Be fined? Besides seriously pissing off everyone (esp. TQ), what would happen to him if he eloped? Anyone know?
But . but . but . . . . . . the wedding!!!!!
Where’s LAK! I do know that as he is in line of succession he has to ask TQ’s permission to marry. If he just up and did it that would suggest he would remove himself and his descendants from the line of succession. He’s so far down it anyway it’s unlikely to make much difference.
If he elopes, he is out of the line of succession. Ironclad rule. For the top 6 people.
That said, the size and publicity of the actual wedding depends on how high up the line they are. This means Charles + William + George had/have to marry in a public state ceremony, but Andrew + Harry could have a more private ceremony.
Now that the monarchy is being slimmed down, Harry may be pressed to have a very public state ceremony for the PR of it.
I’m freelance and I haven’t put up my hourly rate in about four years. I do work for one client regularly that pays in euros, so that’s been my only pay rise since long before Brexit!
I’ve decided I want them to get married at Stonehenge. With a druid officiating.
I’m happy to officiate Sixer. I can seriously channel my inner Druid priestess for the occasion.
We keep the Elvi, you know that, right? Otherwise, you’re in!
Oh good and then we can have the chickens. I seem to remember Druids are quite keen on chickens.
Eloping and succession be darned. OUR weddings are SO much better.
You guys are ruining everything!! She can deal with the chickens (although she prefers Picts) but my inner Druid priestess wants flying dragons. She doesn’t know Elvi!
Yeah no. Harry talks about hating being Royal, but he will fall in line with the wedding. It’s just too much trouble otherwise, and in this case the expected flashy wedding would actually be more low key than eloping, since it just checks the box.
Charles and Anne both had small weddings for their second marriages. I think Anne got married in Scotland somewhere to Tim what’s-his-name. So a smaller royal wedding can be done. But I would want to see Harry and Meghan do it big, just for the spectacle and the gossip.
Yes, but this is Harry’s FIRST wedding, there is no reason why it should be small and hidden away in a corner outside of London. It would make it look as though he is ashamed of marrying a divorced mixed race American actress
US Weekly frequently is wrong. I can’t count the number of times it had Jen Aniston pregnant after her split from Brad. Ditto for the number of times this magazine reported that Brad and Jen were reuniting.
Oh, I just caught that about them reuniting on the checkout line at Target last weekend. It definitely livened up the wait . . .
I have read many a Brad Jen reunion story at the salon. 😊
It will be stuffy and formal and Harry will hate it, but then they’ll escape to a honeymoon bungalow in Costa Rica and have hot, dirty hippie sex and Harry will be fine 😉
Meghan looks beautiful on the cover of this magazine. I have a soft spot for Harry. He has his mother’s gift of charm.
I have a serious soft spot for Harry, but I’m getting cranky about all this they’re on! they’re off! stuff. Not to mention the I’m in! I’m out! stuff.
There is no on/off outside of fangirl fiction, they’ve been together since he put out the letter, but in the absence of regular sightings of the couple the bored press makes stuff up.
I mean it wouldnt happen but I still wish it would. A nice fat middle finger to dumb protocol. Its nobodys business who you love or how you marry them and that holds regardless of the family you were born into. Tear down the monarchy but even as it continues to stand, I’ll never understand why royalists would want control over something so personal as a wedding.
But the wedding isn’t personal. It’s the public expression of unity. That’s why there are public documents, banns, rings, and churches open to the public. Courtship is personal, honeymoons are personal, and the bride’s exact relationship to the best man may be very personal, but the essence of a wedding is public.
…..the bride’s relationship with the bestman….lol😂😂😂😂😂🤣
“A nice fat middle finger to dumb protocol. Its nobodys business who you love or how you marry them . . .”
It is when the dumb taxpayer is partly footing the bill – not just for the wedding but for the lifestyle the couple will enjoy after the honeymoon.
What’s the point of marrying a Prince if you have to elope?
I’m kind of with you there, perplexed. If I were Harry’s girlfriend, I’d want a seriously fairytale wedding.
I’d want a cathedral wedding and Miranda Kerr’s dress if I were marrying Harry.
I agree. If I were MM and my first destination wedding marriage went bust, I would want the BIG wedding at Westminster Abby. A woman doesn’t get more than one shot at that. Besides, it would be fun.
I’ve watched the Crown twice through now and they’re right-it’s amazing the misconceptions about royal life we Americans have! Seeing how hard it was for Margaret to do anything at all-it’s amazing the hijinks these folks are up to these days!
No. They won’t.
Even if Harry abdicated his succession place — not a thing that would happen today with the perilous position of the royal family period — they couldn’t “run off and elope,” because the world is a really small place in 2017, and this would be the royal story of a new century. Heck, Wallace and Edward couldn’t manage it privately in the 1930s.
Noooo Harry – I need a Royal Wedding in the age of Trump. These are dark days.
(Okay I realize I’m an American and have no tax money in the game.)
I’m with you. I want something happy and pretty to see rather than the Trump shit-show.
I am the opposite. As in i do not see the difference between him and them. So yeah, please elope and may that be the start of an end.
i totally agree with your sentiment, milla. there is no difference, be it in the UK or US
I for one continue to hope and enjoy these two together. It gives me light and calm in compared to all the other news and crap I’m reading, watching, and living through because of not my president
A royal person in the line of succession can not get married without government consent.
Theresa May has to give her approval.
The PM? I thought it was the Privy Council – does it come to the same thing?
That would be incredibly romantic and practical based on the economic state of affairs.
I have watched Charles/Diana, Andrew/Fergie, William/Kate all get married, and there is no way I am going to miss this royal wedding.
Alternatively, they do elope, but include me in the teeny, tiny wedding as the presiding official. I’m flexible about this!
Me neither, especially as it’s a weekday so it gives me an excuse to take the day off after getting up at 1AM out where I am, so as not to miss the guests in all the horrible clothes arrive. What gets into women when they head off to royal weddings?! Especially in the, er, foundation garment department . . .
I’ve watched the same marriages, PlainJane. I guess we can look forward to George’s next, eh? It would probably be within the next 20-25 years. I hope I’m around for it. We should all agree to meet here on the day of George’s wedding and we can pick the best of the bunch.
I was a little girl and my mom wouldn’t let me watch Diana’s wedding because I was supposed to be in bed. My mom was watching the wedding in the living room. I could see the television down the hall so I sat silently on the floor down the darkened hall watching it. My mom didn’t know I was out of bed.
seesittellsit – I am guessing we are in the same location because I have to get up at 1am too! And agreed about the arriving guests, it’s so much fun to watch! I had such a WTF moment when Beatrice showed up at Will and Kate’s wedding!
Lady D – GREAT idea! I’m completely onboard and looking forward to it.
India Andrews – I was young too, my mom let me get up to watch the wedding, I was really tired at school that day.
Also, I really DO hope that Harry marries Megan in part because I want to see how the BRF graciously manages mingling with people of color, and tries to convince everyone on God’s green earth that it’s never been a thing. THAT will be a show!
@PlainJane – I have a gay male friend who actually called me around 1AM to make sure I was up. “They’re opening the doors, people are coming in, get up!”
Yes, I live in the Mountain Time Zone now, although I was born, grew up, and spent most of my life in New York City . . . if I move back I can get in a couple of hours extra sleep for the Harry/MM wedding. 🙂
My guess would be St. George’s Chapel, too, especially with all the stuff going on in the UK and Europe and the economic concerns. TBH, if it were me, I’d prefer the Chapel, too. It’s the perfect balance between grand and intimate, and would allow them to throw a bona fide royal wedding without leaving themselves open to charges of being offensively lavish. And Harry, after all, is moving farther and farther down the line. Who knows, Kate could have had a third before they actually get around to the wedding . . .
He would most definitely be allowed to do so if he gave up his place in the line of succession and his royal title and all the attendant perks that go with it . . . after all, that is pretty much what his Great Uncle Edward (formerly Edward the Eighth – “and Mrs. Simpson the Seven-Eighths”, as one wag at the time put it) did: eloped to France with the woman he loved after giving (almost) all of it up.
But as we now know, Harry has no intention of giving it all up, so it’s the Abbey or St. George’s Chapel for him and MM . . . it’s really an embarrassment being American and seeing ignorant stories like these circulated. And not for nuthin’, but they don’t really do much for the couple involved.
She looks fantastic in that shot looking over her shoulder however!
LaineyGossip made a good comment about this yesterday, why should the WOC have a small wedding?? I hope Meghan and Harry’s wedding is big and splashy and her hollywood friends show up…and Serena Williams and Alexis Ohanian show up with their baby (sorry I love them). I woke up REALLY early to watch Will and Kate get married and I didn’t care about them at all, I’ll have an all nighter for these two!!
More than likely Harry and Meghan will have their wedding at St George’s chapel Windsor. like Edward and Sophie did. St George’s has the right balance of royal pageantry and simplicity that fits both Harry and Meghan’s needs. Plus security will be cheaper and more secure.
The public will want it in London, we want a kiss on the balcony. Harry is not Edward, he is the son of the Diana the Princess of Wales, adored by millions around the world. The RF need to send out a clear message here that Meghan has been fully accepted by them, to put a stop to all the gossip to the contrary.
I vote St Martins. It’s in London,and cozier than the abbey.
The summer social calendar of events is practically over and I had predicted wrongly that Harry would ‘launch’ Meghan at one of these events. There must be a reason why this did not happen. Harry is guarding his privacy over this relationship very tightly and is very protective of Meghan and has said that the scrutiny she has had to face so far has been enormous. I just feel that there are a lot of things to be sorted out before they are seen in public as an official couple. They are trying to limit bad stories, last week the DM printed a story about extra security for Meghan which an insider must have leaked and within a day the story was removed, the lawyers are very alert and active. I also think Harry is worried about her parents and giving them time to prepare for a media onslaught. When they do ‘come out’ in public the press and photographers will go wild, and I think Harry and Meghan want to enjoy a last few months or weeks under the radar. So far they have been very successful at avoiding being seen together, I love the way they have moved around London and Toronto together without being seen. However, I would think it very odd if an engagement is announced before they agree to some pictures being taken of them together at some event or other.
If they do marry, it will not be an elopement. But I could see something more like Edward and Sophie’s wedding. Smaller but still public.
I don’t think they will get married. Something is wrong. They were escalating and rolling her out and then all that stopped. Maybe she flinched?