We are living in the age of Trump Nihilism. If we’re all going to die, what does it matter if you eat a whole pint of Ben & Jerry’s? What does it matter if you’re a little bit high for the apocalypse? What does any of it matter if we have a president who only has support of one-third of the country and he’s somehow going to provoke America into a nuclear holocaust?
"A man you can bait with a tweet is not a man we can trust with nuclear weapons." —Hillary
— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) July 29, 2016
North Korean despot Kim Jong Un has been developing his nuclear program this whole time. He’s been trying to provoke Donald Trump for months. Yesterday, the Washington Post reported that NK “has successfully produced a miniaturized nuclear warhead that can fit inside its missiles, crossing a key threshold on the path to becoming a full-fledged nuclear power,” according to American DoD sources. So Bigly Jong-Un (Kim Jong Baby Fists?) decided to take time away from his rigorous golfing vacation to issue this demented threat:
“Fire and fury,” because some 20-year-old speechwriter just heard about this new thing called “alliteration.” In retaliation, North Korea is now saying that they’re seriously considering bombing Guam, a U.S. protectorate (which voted for Hillary Clinton). Poor Guam – please stay strong, Guam. We love you and we’re really sorry about all of this. Also: who wants to take a bet that before yesterday, Trump was pretty fuzzy on the details of A) Hiroshima and Nagasaki, B) the distance between Seoul, South Korea and the North Korean border, C) the fact that we still have a lot of American troops in South Korea, and D) the fact that Guam is a US protectorate?
Photos courtesy of Getty.
Calm down, Don-erys.
I was about to say the same! he might as well have said Dracarys!
Bend the knee. Bend the knee……….
Hah! I was going to say he’d taken Sunday’s ep of Game of Thrones too much to heart.
Of course, that’s only a TV show whereas Trumpelstiltskin could just “fire and fury” everyone right into another war. Sigh.
Trump would seem a lot tougher if the nuclear arsenal weren’t under the direction of Rick “Dancing with the Stars” Perry.
And he didn’t even win! We’ll shortly all be dancing with the stars.
Lol. Sob.
This morning my son and I decided which of two towns either of us could be found in, in the event we get separated by a nuclear attack.
Why does he always repeat himself?
Someone please make memes of him in a Daenerys wig.
@vava: Because he’s insane. Very, very much so. @Justjj: When Emilia takes off the wig, it’s hard to tell it’s her. She’s a giggle worm with brunette hair, and doesn’t make us bow down, well actually maybe she would. Sophie Turner might! They’ve been on the show so long, they think they’re their characters!!
He has Alzheimers.
If yesterday’s escalation of an already dangerous situation didn’t prove to the Republicans that Donnie Two Scoops is unfit for office, nothing ever will. 25th Amendment. Now.
I actually trust the kook in North Korea more, cause he has more to lose.
Remember when our biggest worries in regards to nuclear war was that the President didn’t pronounce it correctly (GWB)? Ah, those were the days.
Frankly, I am scare sh***less that this idiot WILL lead us into a nuclear war because he is too stupid and too arrogant to back down from his pre-dawn bathroom tweets. God help us all!
I’m scared sh***less, too!
Stop. Just please stop. Why can’t we stop him? It just deepens my resolve to enjoy the sh*t out of every day cause it really may be my last. Enough boys.
Trump is all talk and no action because he is a coward. He can make all the threats he wants, NK knows he is just a gas bag.
Once again, I find myself asking, how the hell did this happen?????
“Once again, I find myself asking, how the hell did this happen?????”
Well, 75% of the U.S. population chose to ignore warnings from HRC, national security experts, principled conservatives, and Morning Joe’s statement that Trump is curious about using nuclear weapons. We were told over and over again that this man was a loose cannon who will start a war as soon as elected, that he is a pathological liar and an egomaniac.
So all the citizens who choose not to do their constitutional duty to vote or those voting for him are to blame. He showed us who he was and we weren’t scared sheetless enough to stop him because “emails!” and HRC had to be punished for not leaving her cheating husband. Priorities.
@Original T.C. – nailed it!
I’m so glad that the ambassadors to Japan and South Korea will be working together to solve….oh that’s right. There’s no one in those positions because some IDIOT hasn’t nominated anyone to fill those spots yet.
But you know-her emails. *eye roll*
@Original 14% of the US population voted for Trump. Trump has never had anywhere near majority support so It blows my mind that he is the president. I thought 2000 was the last time the minority would be the majority.
Thank you TC. What difference does it make, at this point, how Trump got elected? He is our president like it or not. The American people need to stand together and work things out so we can function together as best we can. I just want HRC & Co. to quit their whining and stop being such a poor losers.
“He can make all the threats he wants, NK knows he is just a gas bag.”
I REALLY hope that is true, but what if his exaggeration is lost in translation? What if they are taking him seriously? Trump has cultivated a reputation for being unpredictable, I don’t see why they wouldn’t take him seriously.
You know the bottom of the barrel has been reached when we are expecting Kim Jong-Un to be the mature, rational one.
How, indeed. And more to the point, wtf do we do now? Since newspapers are in the public domain, I’m going to paste a short excerpt from a letter that some amazing guy from Pennsylvania who just signed himself “Dave” wrote to the NYTimes on Tuesday, in response to an op-ed by David Brooks. It really should be read by every voter in the US::
“…Even as Trump’s gnat-like attention span and preening narcissism render him less effective, his dozen or so worst appointees go about the grim business of destroying the environment , the social fabric, and the very laws on which we all depend. There is simply no other subject that has ever required our fuller attention and our complete repudiation. This is our Mussolini moment, and we need to make sure it is short and without sequels.”
It’s so surreal that I say out loud, “Thank you China, for reality checking my crazy country and saving us from nuclear war.”
Yes I never thought there was a day I was grateful for China. The parent in the room!
Who would EVER think CHINA, of ALL places, would be the voice of sanity??? Someone PLEASE evoke the 25th Amendment!
Angelique,
I will NEVER, EVER accept this Russia-installed fake President who has narcissistic personality disorder, Alzheimers, and is a real asshole. He is also a traitor. NEVER. #resist
Agree Sarah. There is no way I will “normalize” or accept this POS as my president. NEVER
@ Sarah…..
Although we’ve clashed once or twice over Meghan/Harry, for this comment, I’d give you a massive hug if I could see you.
Agree 1,000,000%
👍👍👍
Let’s not lie, he’s still confused. There’s only so much brightly coloured pictures and words with two syllables or less can tell you.
Exactly. His speech was indeed demented as Kaiser said. He seems barely coherent.
He also sat there hugging himself in a most peculiar way. The man is an absolute menace at home and abroad.
you know when dementia patients are super angry and aggressive because they are lost and don’t understand hat is happening and KNOW they should know better?
Thats how he acts, except without the sympathetic illness.
The hugging himself while trying to sound super tough was weird. I loathe him and everyone that contributed to him getting into office,
He’s acting like my husband did when his Alzheimer’s was first becoming obvious.
I read somewhere today that an ex CIA analyst talked about similarities between speeches of Orange Fists and Kim Jong Un. No kidding. Apparently written by the same writer – referencing the wording of “fear and fury”. No kidding.
Trump’s lap dogs are working the airwaves saying Trump was using language Kim Jong-un could understand. There aren’t enough head shakes in the world for that one.
I was watching an interview with Fareed Zakara about this situation and they cut to a clip of Trump discussing North Korea in the 90s. The difference in speech patterns and coherence was stark. I honestly believe he has some form of dementia… and the ability to start a nuclear war. I can’t even imagine a more terrifying sentence in the English language.
https://youtu.be/sTop7gOU4xY
He is not all there. It is obvious by the way he talks. Blackwater has reared their corrupt selves in the form of Betsy Devos’ war criminal brother Erik Prince. He will find a way to cash in on this corrupt administration.
magnoliarose, I heard yesterday they were thinking of turning the forces in Afghanistan to all private “military contractors” aka corporate militias. You are absolutely correct.
I also heard during the campaign that Erik Prince has been working with China and setting up militias for them as well.
I’ve seen a few comparisons between his speech patterns and language from 20 years ago to now, and it’s pretty startling. He is barely coherent now (no matter what creepy Stephen Miller says). He does all that circular talk and says I’m not going to say xyz, but xyz (there’s a whole video of him doing that- it’s bizarre). I really wonder if it’s more than just age, as some say.
Wouldn’t surprise me if Repubs WANTED to keep him there to front for what they really want to do, and just want him there as the target, with him being too stupid to realize. Honestly, I have never been so afraid for the future…
I said it before and I say it again: it reminds me of the Simpson’s episode in which Bart tried to explain to Homer that Sideshow Bob plans to kill Selma. Bart first just tells Homer what is about to happen with words, then drawings and finally a puppet show. Finally he tells Marge and they run to save Selma. That’s how I imagine Trump. Only difference: there is no Marge in this whole administration.
We need a Marge.
Love that greenmonster, I’ve always said there is nothing that can’t be illustrated by a Simpsons reference. We could definitely use a Marge.
Yeah. When I read that, all I thought was “what do you mean ‘before yesterday’??” He STILL has no clue.
But after repeated showings of that clip, now I’m just left wondering which fist is fight and which fist is fury. Because seriously, all I could imagine during that obscenely ridiculous response was him waving his fists in the air, calling them the fire and the fury. Jesus.
Kim Jong Un and Donald Trump – separated at birth?
Two narcissistic crazy dictators
With equally hideous and bizarre hair dos.
Who said it: Trump or Targaryen? A new quiz show.
Bloody hell.
I guess we know what show he’s been binging on. Though he’s more of a Cersei if I’m honest.
I am truly surprised that no one’s tried to take out this idiot yet.
So not cool to wish death on anyone.
Yeah, so much better for millions to be killed, right?
Oh please. These aren’t either/or scenarios.
InsanePOS-in-Chief doesn’t care how many he kills. There’s a list of who’s to go to the underground bunker for safety. I bet Plastic Princess and her spawn are on the list, but melania, Barron, Tiffany, Uday and Qusay aren’t. Probably jared’s excluded too.
No one “wished death on” anyone. She simply said she was surprised no one has made an attempt. Not the same thing.
Lol no dog in this fight but Alix deleted the end of her first post. Smh.
It’s not cool to wish death, but it’s not like Alix is the first in the world to be surprised it hasn’t happened yet
I absolutely agree, Beth, but CB has guidelines about wishing death on someone. I personally find it creepy, especially after the heartbreaking death wishes and assassination hopes the Obamas experienced.
I do not agree, this was not wishing death upon him.
nicegirl
What is here now was not Alix’s original post. Otherwise I would agree with you.
Nice try, Alix. Your original post ended with “Here’s hoping.”
Sad.
Correct. Enough of you already.
You made your point now can we please move on ?
Kitten
I never meant to offend but it’s a little frustrating when the op alters her post in a way that makes me seem like the disengunuous one. Hoping for someone to be gunned down makes me uncomfortable x1000. But yeah, I apologize if I came across as preachy.
I get it and I agree. Even on a purely karmic level, it’s never a good thing to say. But is it bad to say I wouldn’t cry if it happened? I’m truly a peaceful person and as such, I fear for every one of our country’s citizens as well as repercussions on the rest of the world. Nobody deserves this.
That being said, if I have a choice, I would prefer that he be impeached and safely escorted into a waiting police vehicle to be transported to prison.
No deserves death. But Trump does deserve to be tried, convicted, jailed and stripped of all of his wealth.
For what it’s worth, many, MANY people on this site have flat-out stated that they hope Drumpf’s horrible health/eating habits kill him, with no righteous outrage to be found.
Anyway, I didn’t change my post to make you sound disingenuous; I changed it to keep my posting privileges. Also, as Kitten pointed out, it’s never a good thing to say, so I formally take back the original closing sentence, which I wrote in horror and outrage. Personally, I don’t care how he leaves the White House, so long as he leaves, and soon. I think he is a very real danger to the world at large.
Is that enough mea culpa for you?
Alix
I understand your sentiments, believe me. Iwhen I read details about Trump allegedly beating and raping a then 12 year old girl at the private estate of a billionaire friend (Jeff Epstein) cried literal tears. When Trump was elected I had friends checking up on me because I went into a two week depression so I don’t want you to think I am judging your feelings. I have just learned over the years that what we put out into the universe really does find somewhere to perch, you know? I want to offer my apologies for being heavy handed about that. I don’t want to pull any more focus from the fact that as long as Trump is in office we are all in real danger. *olive branch*
Kitten
Well said. If I found out Trump died I would feel like we are all that much safer. In my eyes he is a Hitler and I won’t pull back on that statement. It’s not hyperbole, imo. Thank you for replying.
@ Enough Already: Olive branch accepted, friend. 🙂
The snarky comment I originally made was uncalled for and beneath me — thanks for calling me out on it. I’m rather horrified to know that the very thought of that imbecilic orange power-keg is enough to make me express such nasty thoughts. I’m not a violent person AT ALL, but dear Lord, I want him to go away! I see the latest headlines, and, like you, feel sick to my stomach.
Honestly? This kerfuffle right here was upsetting me a great deal, but I couldn’t seem to fix things gracefully. You did, though, and I’m grateful to you. Sending hugs, wherever you are!
Alix
Warm hugs to you too. Thank you for your passion. It makes me feel better to know that there are people who feel strongly about the mayhem this man is spreading. I still feel a little guilty about taking away focus from that but in a full circle kind of way you’ve made me feel better that not everyone out there who refuse to be passive about Trump. There is still hope for us all, imo. May the rest of your day be full of positive energy. I’m glad we connected 🙂
That would only turn him into a matyr and hero. I even guess his supporters would totally spin out of control after an attempt to take Trump out. What has happen to him, is public humiliation. Proving how stupid and unfit he is (even though he has proven this over and over again himself) as president. If more Trumpsters would be willing to understand and acknowledge what massive POS he is, THAT would kill him. If he ends up as a public laughing stock without support at his stupid rallies, THAT would kill him.
So to answer your question: self-controll. Massive amounts of self-controll.
@ green monster:
The problem is, there is a large minority’s of Americans who are genuinely as stupid, dumb and despicable as trump is (well, almost. It would be hard to match him). Really dark minded people who thrive on dominating others without remorse. Probably the same type of people that Germany was crawling with, who casually looked away as the holocaust was ripping through Jewish lives.
People who can tolerate almost any level of evil and deception as long as it’s being done to benefit them. It’s become increasingly clear that these are the core trump supporters, so they will continue to support him through every revelation of deception, corruption and criminality this White House will go through in the next few years.
I apologies profusely to other Americans on here who are normal, decent, thoughtful empaths……..I mean no offense to you, but it’s the truth.
I figured you were just expressing anger in a dark but slightly facetious way. The man takes you to the darkest recesses of your soul. I know I go there too. I am one who urges more high fatty meals and I am not taking it back.
I don’t think your post was against guidelines since it wasn’t about another poster. ? I think.
I’m glad they haven’t. The last thing we need is him to be turned into a martyr. What we really need is for the institutions of our democracy to play their role and get him out of office through legal means.
It feels like we’re the frogs in the hot water that has been slowly warming and is now just about to boil.
How did we get to the point where Donald Trump is president and threatening end days? Can we please wake up from this nightmare now?
And NK has the missiles to take trump up on his threat. Um if you’re in cali I hope you’ve prepared to move or go underground. I don’t think we are getting out of this admin before being attacked. I’ve always felt this way and NK has been escalating rapidly for months
Best Twatter ever twatted:
“”How did the Nukey War start, Oldfather?”
“Well …” [I stoke the fire] “It was Hashtag International Cat Day…””
Funny, not funny, and if you’ll excuse me, I’ll just go and cry bitter tears at what we have come to for the rest of the day.
#Hashtag International Cat Day and Glen Campbell died so anti-war song Galveston was playing everywhere.
Even the BBC is covering Glen Campbell dying (I think it’s to give the Britisher population time to google the location of Guam in between Orange Horror segments).
This is #cutecat kind of day. I’ll be over at Instagram trying to stay calm.
Alternatively, you could go from feline to vulpine and hang out with Hourly Fox, my personal favourite of the cute Twatter accounts: http://twitter.com/hourlyFox
My friends and I regularly send videos and pictures of cute animals to keep calm. This is something we started on that dark day last november.
@Sixer awww, thanks for the link. Fox are such cuties.
Sixer Thank you for the fox. Sigh. Cute animals are keeping me sane.
Well we had a good run, humanity. But it turns out there really is no cure for the kind of selfish stupidity currently on display with two of the biggest sociopathic lunatics in the universe. It is frustrating to know that nuclear holocaust is going to come about because the malignant man child in the White House got into a dick swinging game of chicken with someone even more unhinged than he is.
I’m going to assume Susan Sarandon and everyone else who smugly informed everyone that they didn’t vote because there was no difference between the candidates are meeting up with the Stein and Johnson voters to mount the revolution they’ve been so eagerly awaiting. This is your chance to shine and put your money where your mouth is, so get to it!
I want to star this post. Star!
Molly Jong-Fast(Erica’s daughter)expressed the feelings of many of us.
http://twitter.com/mollyjongfast/status/895122062414675968
If we ever do have a nuclear war, it will certainly be caused by idiocy like this rather than actual intent.
Exactly Sixer. We will all die because these two are in a d*ck swinging contest
Yep. Cock up rather than malign intent. Pun intended.
The BBC did a very good drama on the lead up to WWI a couple of years back – 37 Days – clearly showing how miscommunication and an amount of dickswinging got us somewhere we really didn’t need to be.
My BIL is a nuclear physicist. He says in the event of a nuclear war, your best bet is to run towards the blast.
That’s horrible Megan, but almost certainly true.
You forgot to mention the 95 million people who didn’t vote.
We need a percentage figure for those who wanted to but couldn’t or weren’t allowed to vote due to voter suppression by various means.
What’s, that, Who Are These People? “Couldn’t vote”, I understand, but “weren’t allowed to”? Voter suppression? That’s more stuff I have to look up! Last year, on 2 July, we had a Federal election. I was in hospital for four weeks, and ticked off that I wouldn’t be able to vote. It’s compulsory here, and failure to vote incurs a fine. Being in hospital, I would have been excused, but I wanted to cast my vote. As it happened, the local electoral office set up a polling booth in one of the foyers (it’s one of Sydney’s major hospitals), and a lovely nurse wheeled me down so I could make an absentee vote, as I was out of my area. Not allowed to vote? That is unconstituional.
AnnaKist, in the US huge swathes of the population are prevented from voting because they have criminal records (not something we do here in Oz) or even because they have a name that is similar to someone who does, or because their name is the same/similar to someone else a few counties over so they’re purged for being ‘duplicates’. By pure coincidence a hefty proportion of those banned or purged just happen to be black or Hispanic. It’s a more administrative Jim Crow.
Greg Palast is a good starting point for voter suppression info, and John Oliver has done some pieces on it which are probably available online.
On edit – here’s some good primers on the subject
https://www.aclu.org/issues/voting-rights/fighting-voter-suppression
https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/race/news/2017/05/12/432339/five-truths-voter-suppression/
https://thinkprogress.org/2016-a-case-study-in-voter-suppression-258b5f90ddcd/
Greg Palast in Rolling Stone
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/the-gops-stealth-war-against-voters-w435890
And a few Oliver pieces on the topic
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rHFOwlMCdto
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5a9hnOk9AG4
Wow, thanks Gin for doing all this. It’s been a terrible realization for a lot of us Americans that our electoral process is deeply flawed – and was designed to favor white property-owners above all. Disenfranchisement continues to take new and creative forms.
AnnaKist, I hope you’re all better now and find it fabulous that they wheeled you down to vote!
Gin: Thank you so much for answering my post, and for all that great information! That’s my reading for today!
WATP: Aaw, thank you. Unfortunately, I’m still not 100%, and may never be, but give thanks each day for all the wonderful people in my life and the possibilities each new day brings, as there are so many people suffering 1000 times worse. I was so lucky to be looked after by such great doctors and fabulous nurses, who couldn’t do enough for me. Thanks again.
@ Annakist:
Hope your body surprises you by being even stronger than you were before the event……good luck! 😬😬
grabbyhands-I feel every word you wrote. I can’t even look at Susan Sarandon without feeling angry. She can escape by private jet with loads of money while everyone else feels the election results.
SusieS, We patiently await the revolt. The world is waiting for the revolutionaries to solve this problem for us. Surely, they hold secret meetings where they plan and plot our next move.
I don’t think anyone will give a hot damn about freaking Wall Street and emails when we are in the midst of WW3.
If he hasnt got a golf club there, he doesnt give two shits about Guam
He’s probably never heard of Guam. Or Hiroshima. Or Nagasaki. Helll, he probably couldn’t find North Korea on the map since he doesn’t have any hotels there! Bloody lunatic!!!!
Where the hell is Paul Ryan and the rest of the Republican party? Democrats were all over this as soon as it happened yesterday but complete silence from Republicans until McCain finally spoke up late in the day. This man is unhinged. No, he does not look strong, as some of his supporters are arguing; he looks like a homicidal madman. Millions of people could die in this while this psychopath is engaged in a battle of who has the biggest tiny dick that doesn’t work with the nut in NK.
ETA And if Princess Nagini dares post pictures of her kids today, I might just have to get to NJ & tell her to her plastic face what a monster she is.
If Yertle the Turtle or Eddie Munster had any balls they’d invoke the 25th Amendment.
@jerusha
Period. Absolutely +1,0000
They are complicit or most likely implicated themselves. Disgusting!!!!
Paul Ryan is on the Conservative’s naughty list right now.
As soon as I saw this news, I called my Senators and insisted they come back from their break to remove him from office. (202) 224-3121 people. 25th Amendment.
Paul Ryan’s lines were busy or mailbox full in all locations, but you can call your reps about impeachment.
However, the 25th is faster and we know Pence wouldn’t stand in the way.
Anyone still think Pence is worse?
worse for the US, yes. trump can’t seem to get anything done, but I am thinking pence would- destroy even more civil rights. trump is all talk.
but globally, no, trump is much, much worse. because being all bluster foolishness on the world stage is worse by unimaginable proportions.
after all, pence has his “death stare” to intimidate foes. *eyeroll*
I never thought he was worse. He is disgusting weirdo bigot, but he is a familiar face we have dealt with before. Pence wouldn’t break the world and wouldn’t enrich his family or schlep his fat ass to his own golf courses weekly. He doesn’t have Russian bots and fake supporters. Putin isn’t pulling his strings. The bigot brigade wouldn’t be there, they would but not these idiot Neo Nazis, softer more familiar bigots. He’s not an unhinged psychopath. We are past sociopath now, pure psychosis all day every day.
yup, it’s true , and Pence has no charisma … I mean, how much does it take to become an unpopular governor of Indiana? He wouldn’t last long.
Archie, worse comes to worst, we *can* rebuild civil rights. What we *can’t* rebuild is a world demolished by nuclear war. As much as I detest Pence, I would take him over this lunatic. I don’t think Pence will blow up the world with a nuclear bomb.
Great question? It is long past time for the adults to take the wheel! Come get your tantrum throwing toddler, he’s playing with the nukes.
His failure to understand geopolitics and the role of international diplomacy , presidential decorum has landed us in a place where the effects will be incalculable and catastrophic.
It’s obvious someone told him about GoT, his comments have no relations to Truman prior to dropping the bomb on Japan.
As my friend quipped yesterday, he’s quite the diplomat, eh?
This is some terrifying stuff. I was scared to go to sleep last night, not sure what I was going to wake up to this morning.
I didn’t sleep last night. Had a big anxiety attack and choked on an apple when I saw Trump making this stupid threat. Scared to death
I know how you feel but hang in there Beth.
Massive hugs to you, Beth. And take care of yourself!
Apparently as of now (4:15 PST) he is still posturing and threatening not to back down. Honestly, I don’t remember being so scared since I was a little kid, and we had the bomb drills in school- the ones where you had to duck under your desk, and once a month the sirens would blast around the neighborhoods to “check” them…we had a “walk home as fast as you can, the most direct route” drill… Those, and the Emergency Broadcasting Channel commercials-“This is a test, this is only a test…”- used to scare the sh** out of me as a young kid!
I’m in CA, and I was worried as I fell asleep as well.
I just wonder if something does hit, should we all just drop everything and buy canned goods and bottled water? Being serious…
If it’s after the fact it’s already too late.
Yeah, now would be the time to buy that stuff.
I’m part of a local FB group that’s filled mostly with inquiries like “who’s the best eye doctor around?” and “where can I take my pet to be groomed?” Last night someone posted asking where the local fallout shelters, if they even exist, are.
I feel like I’m a kid in the 80’s all over again. Except, even more aware of things and pants-shittingly terrified.
I was in a ME country when there was a missile threat from an enemy state. My first reaction was where is the closest shelter? and where do I get a gas-mask NOW? I was completely terrified for a few mins, then I just made an analysis about the likelihood of a missile being sent over and determined they won’t do that. They did not. But I was very scared, especially since I was away from my loved ones.
For you guys in the US, don’t be scared. There is much more to a possibly nuclear attack than Drumpf spitting out his irrationality and ill-preparedness.
The thing is, even if you are in a fallout shelter, what is there left to come out to?? The world as we know it is gone. If you’re not in the direct hit, you are most certainly in the fallout, and that has its own consequences. Personally, I think I’d rather be vaporized than live with radiation poisoning.
When I was a kid, a movie came out, called “The Day After”; it was chilling. Really gave me nightmares about what would happen if there was a nuclear attack anywhere here.
Now is the time to prepare.
I follow Portland Bureau of Emergency Management Director Carmen Merlo on Twitter – @CarmenPDX – she is super smart.
I grew up in the 50s. I still remember how to get under my desk and duck and cover. That’ll save us.
As comedian Robert Klein said, “under your desk, ass to the window…”
I remember that too. We also were issued dog tags to wear to school and my parents converted a basement laundry room into a bomb shelter.
Tough talking Trump should STFU. Now. This is real life, not a playground where he can taunt and stick his tongue out at another brat.
Two egomaniacs are going to start nuclear WW3.
I had a thought. As i always do , cos i like to think outside the box. What if those two are just scaring the rest of the world while secretly playing golf and chasing gals?
Think about it. When is the easiest to manipulate people? When they are scared for life. They both need support from people and war is the easiest way to distract everything and everyone… I am not afraid for the planet i am afraid that this will ruin people mentaly and psychicly.
I don’t think Trump is smart enough for that.
I think he was smart enough to manipulate people through the campaign, but he’s clearly losing capacity now and is just popping off.
I don’t think that either of them will. When it comes to nuclear conflict the MAD – Mutual Assured Destruction concept may come into play, though it is old and military defense technology becomes more efficient. Say X (NK) will send a nuclear missile to Y (US), assuming the missile isn’t destroyed – and other countries/areas might be impacted more than the intended target, then Y will send a missile back and destroy X. I would say that before Drumpf pushes the codes he would be contained – he IS totally demented but surrounded by rational (maybe some of them evil) people. KJun sending a missile would mean at least losing his status and a country with no people – ordinary North Koreans, and no defense. Then his bunker could be located/destroyed. It doesn’t make sense. KJun wants status, first and foremost. He is an idiot, but not *that* stupid.
Nuclear protocols are extremely complex and I bet it is not what they show in the movies. I am more wary of NK hacking abilities, and their 24/7 dedication in that regard.
How much do we really *know* though? There is so much going on at so many levels we do not know about, and I like to believe it is for the better. But one thing is for sure, we should never give in to fear and fear mongerers. Suckers all of them.
Oh of course. Fear is useless in these situations. We know nothing and we should always assume that things will get better.Maybe not for 3 more years but there’s hope.
I really need other world leaders, like Trudeau or Merkel or ANYONE to denounce trump’s rhetoric and nativist ways, this time in particular.
We are all toast.
Canada’s envoy to NK arrived yesterday. Perhaps that will calm things down a bit?
HERE’S HOPING!!!
Merkel can afford to denounce Trump. Trudeau has to work behind his back while making Trump feel they’re besties. Fortunately, Canadians are very good at working in this way.
During the Bush years, I heard a comedienne once that said, Americans are benevolently aware of Canadians, and Canadians are malevolently aware of Americans. When it comes to the Trump administration, yeah.
IIRC Sweden have an embassy in NK. Any peace-loving Nordic country would like to take diplomatic action?
Peace-loving yet producing and selling weapons. But OK, if they can do something about the crisis.
This is such a confusing time. The cynic in me feels like the NRA backed Republicans don’t really care if we go to war. War means more money for some who like to profit in that sort of thing.
One the other hand however, I get the impression that maybe, just maybe, there’s a sleeper group of politicians putting a plan in place. I watched CNN last night and many a pundit were saying that HumptyTrumpy has gone too far. While this goon rants and raves with his implications of nuclear war, Washington remains fairly quiet.
Jack Kingston was still defending Trump and bringing up the Clintons. Lordy. Him, Jeffrey Lord and Jason Miller will never stop supporting Trump, but I was glad to see some others admitting Trump had gone too far
Justine, I hear you about the sleeper plan, although a big part of me feels like it’s wishful thinking. If it’s true, there’s no more time to waste.
This sleeper group of politicians had better make itself known because time is of the essence.
I assume everyone knows that there are underground bunkers that all the old white men pols and their concubines will flee to for safety. That’s who would repopulate the earth. With little Ryans and McConnells and Gowdys and other subhumans.
Yes. I emailed Ryan yesterday that I want all family members barred. Ivanka can go straddle a bomb like Dr. Strangelove.
LOL..
That visual is disgusting and hilarious at the same time. Thanks, LP 😉
Does she design hats that she can wave on the way down? Yee-haw!
Oh lordy. You’ve outdone yourself! Yes Kitten, disgusting and hilarious at the same time. She’ll be wearing some cheap palazzo pants.
She can design a hat to wave and yes, palazzo pants with side slips and a pair of the stripper 👠 she loves so much. And sequined red, White & blue, star shaped pasties.
Correction to my typo: cheap palazzo pants with side slits, not slips
And earrings and a bracelet from her collection just in case we survive and still have buying power.
Reminds me of the movie “Kingsmen…” (whatever the rest of the title is). Samuel Jackson (the villain) lays plans for all the “peons” to kill themselves off by fighting each other, and his hand-picked “elite” are all flown to a secret “end of the world” survival palace. Welcome to Trump’s World.
**laughs**
oh what I was replying to is already gone! fast moves, mods!
I said it, that this guy is going to get us into war with Korea and get America wiped off the map. People laughed at me. Even when they were swearing left and right this guy is more dangerous than Hilary (turned out to be true) they didnt think it would be this bad or something this radical could come of it.
I keep looking at my watch….
I don’t think the US will get wiped off the map. While NK are threatening Guam and that could happen, It may well be that Seoul – 10 million plus population – would be the target. Or potentially Japan. Nearer. If that strike happened I think the US would obliterate North Korea. Would China militarily defend North Korea? Who knows, hopefully not. All the above is a combination of guesswork and listening to pundits however, and I think even the experts are having a hard time predicting this. As a small child I was just about aware of tension about the Cuban missile crisis in which war was averted, but neither Kennedy nor Kruschev were unhinged…
Kennedy listened to opposing points of view – intentionally. The movie 13 Days (IIRC) with Kevin Costner (as Bobby?) does a good job of depicting how things unfolded.
Trump is disrupting the delicate harmony in that region. He is also endangering the US’ allies. If he provokes an attack on SK, Japan and CHINA, then being the US’ ally will mean nothing.
It is in NK’s best interest not to attack or provoke an attack. The only reason they exist is their close proximity to SK, Japan and China. Attacking NK implies making these other countries targets aand collateral damage.
Annetommy, I recall that, too. I was very young, but I remember my parents (and a LOT of others) stockpiling canned goods, paper goods, lots of bottles of water… everyone thought it really was the end of the world. My uncle, who was pretty well off, had a bomb shelter built under his home in the hills above L.A. My parents always had a full tank of gas to go! I was much too young to fully understand it all then; but when I was older, I could fully appreciate the fear that was felt!
And he has God’s blessing per an article in the Huffington Post (and there is also one in WaPo):
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/evangelical-adviser-trump-nuke-north-korea_us_598a62b3e4b0449ed5066531?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009
To idiots trying to see who’s d!(k is larger!
When I heard this out of Cheeto Mussolini’s the first thing I thought of was Jules speech from “Pulp Fiction” He thinks this is a scene out of a movie. He can’t treat the military like they are his hit men.
There were clips of Jules all over twitter yesterday so you weren’t the only one. Somebody needs to show them to Orange Voldy. He’s been feuding with Samuel L. Jackson so when he realizes he channeled his character, his head might finally explode.
A psychopath and a sociopath walk into a bar…
HA! Good one! But forgive me if I don’t want to find out the end of that particular joke 😛
Let’s pray the idiots in charge want their great grandkids to live.
THEIR families will be fine.
Oh, this is comforting. Lindsey Graham just said, “If there’s going to be a war, it’ll be in the region, not in America.” Sorry, everyone living in the region, but we’re okay.(Sarcasm, sarcasm, sarcasm. Fvcking idiots.)
Graham’s a dumbass. And I hope to God we don’t get carelessly into war thinking it’ll be contained to that region. Kim wants to hit the mainland US. And if we act recklesssly, we’ll be alone.
Trumpsters meanwhile, don’t care if “coastal elites” in CA are taken out. Less lib voters is cool with them. As a CA resident, I’m pissed.
They should because those taxes and flourishing economies support their sorry asses year in and year out. So go ahead and cheer Trumples but when your SSI check is 3 dollars and 21 cents a month remember us fondly.
I have family in several parts of the region. We have major military bases in the region. If Trump acts, the world will shun us. Graham needs to STFU.
Trump’s base don’t know the people of Guam are US citizens. Or that SKoreans are people too. JFC, this is nuts.
She’s also forgetting how many other countries with populist and communist ideologies are close to the US – Cuba and Venezuela. Both countries ruled by despots desperate enough to “show the Empire they are no more”. NK could very well use these two countries as bases. Venezuela is already out of control, Maduro has nothing to lose and he is an actual idiot.
The world has changed – the US can no longer expect to declare war and have that war fought very far away. 9/11 is proof of that (unfortunately). Trump needs to be stopped because unlike most world leaders, NK answers to NO ONE.
If you actually believe that Raul Castro or even Maduro would side with North Korea you need to go back and take geopolitics 101. That’s a completely ridiculous prediction.
Yeah No. Cuba would not be interested it isn’t even their MO. It never really has been.
Yeah, Lindsey, instead of trying to reassure us that a war would would be far away (jfc), maybe you could stand up to your fearless leader instead. Or maybe help remove him from office, k?
This is like a bad YA dystopian novel.
Those writers were more plugged in than I realized.
If that fucker can find Guam on a map I will eat both my fists and shit freedom.
HA!
“They will be met with fire and fury the likes they’ve never seen… and power. Fire, fury, and power. Like they’ve never seen. And bombs. Fire, fury, power, and bombs. Huge bombs. They’ve never seen bombs like ours before. That’s right: beautiful bombs. And fire and fury. And the other one, what was it… It’s what everyone is saying. Everyone. One of my generals said it, he said, ‘Mr. Trump…’ you know, He’s a very smart general, one of the smartest, he knows more about wars that anyone in the military. The military are great, you know. Very, very… They all voted for me. All of them. Like in Ohio. And Michigan. I won Michigan from Crooked Hilary. They didn’t think I could do it. But I did. We showed them, huh? Fake news. Fake news. But i won. I won the election with huge numbers, big league. Make America Great Again!”
My god, I actually read that twice just to be certain that you made it up.
Oh my God… I thought I was reading his actual words~ that sounds scarily so much like his f*cked up word salads! *shiver*
Lardass-in-Chief was repeating a phrase he’d just learned that day.
http://twitter.com/ddale8/status/895015657359757312
This is so disturbingly accurate. Well done, my friend.
Your comment is like a masterpiece painting. They way you recreated reality and yet made a point was brilliant. Chilling, but brilliant.
This is terrifying, and terrible policy. He framed it as “They better not make any more threats, or…” But there definitely will be more tests, etc., ie, things a reasonable person would agree are threats. So fire and fury within the next few weeks? That’s their plan?
I honestly wonder if they know how important word choice is in situations like these.
I was listening to the podcast The 45th, and one of the hosts knows a lot of people in the State Department. She said one of her contacts said that they were terrified that military action would be taken within the next two weeks against either North Korea or Iran. They said that there are meetings the Trump administration is having, where they are cutting out the State Department! So they seem to be planning something, but are leaving out the insight of people who might actually know better.
Truly terrifying. I hope this person is wrong.
Oh Jesus, I hope they’re wrong, too
I was just starting to feel less panicky about nuclear war. And now my constant nausea is back with a vengeance. WTF is wrong with this man?!? He has grandkids for gods sake, doesn’t he want them to grow up and not be blown to bits. He is such a self absorbed narcissist and just wants to be the big tough guy, but will take us all down with him. damn this is too much.
I had such bad anxiety last night over this, I barely slept. I’ve seen and read a few people coming out against Trump and what he’s saying but it isn’t enough. Republicans need to step it up and deal with this monster they’ve helped create. He sounds not all put together (I’m trying to be polite here) and is putting all of us in danger.
Y’all, I legit feel guilty for having a kid. He was born at the end of last year and now all I can think is that I might’ve brought this beautiful little life into world and we’re looking a nuclear war in the face and does he even have a chance? 🙁
Try not to think that. There have always been terrible things and always will be. That is not in anyway to underplay the seriousness of the current situation, but I don’t think you should feel guilty.
If and when things calm down, your child actually has a chance to grow into awareness under a more enlightened leadership. And you can tell him how your activism helped make it so.
That said, my child’s going away to college and while it’s time, in a normal world — we’re not totally happy about her being far from us if the Trumpocalypse comes along.
I am the same way. Mine is 14 years old though. But he’s mixed (looks black more than white) and I worry for him so much. I worried when he took his white baby cousin for a stroller walk in my brother’s upscale neighborhood not too long back. I worried the other day when he came back from playing with friends and had a toy gun in hand. This man has terrified me and made me fear more than before for my son. Not only would this pos be okay with my son being murdered by cops he would mock it. I feel such guilt for bringing a human life into this world. This world doesn’t deserve our children’s innocence.
@attackofthekb
I am mixed and I completely understand your fear. Your son deserves better than what this administration puts forward, we all do. I’m hoping that this administration will be gone sooner rather than later and will be used as a cautionary tale for future generations.
Thanks to all you CBers who remind me that the world isn’t totally nuts and that there are wonderful people like you all over the world 🙂
@attackofthekb
Your comment broke my heart. I am 36 weeks pregnant with a mixed baby, in more than one way – his Dad is a (very!) dark-skinned 1/2 Haitian, 1/2 African living in the US, I’m a (very!) white Canadian currently living in Canada until after baby arrives) and this is something my boyfriend and I worry about all the time.
Love to you and your boy. <3
@Cass I wish the best for you and your family. I have hope that we will somehow get through this.
@HelloSunshine. Don’t give in to fear. There won’t be a nuclear war anytime soon. Focus on what gives you joy and inner peace and enjoy your beautiful boy, especially since he is so young. Babies are not babies forever and those days don’t come back.
I believe history has shown that a President’s approval rating increases during times of war. The real question – is this man narcissistic enough to cause a nuclear war in attempts to improve his approval rating?
YES
War or major domestic terrorist attack,when it becomes “unpatriotic” to criticise the President…and yes…
Short answer: yes
Unequivocally yes.
I just listened to this last night: https://theintercept.com/2017/08/02/intercepted-podcast-pyongyang-and-the-white-house-gang/
Intercepted interview with John Feffer, Director of Foreign Policy In Focus at the Institute for Policy Studies.
“Jeremy Scahill: Okay, John. Really quick speed round here. Who is more likely to use a nuclear weapon, Donald Trump or Kim Jong-un? Brief answer, please.
John Feffer: Donald Trump.
JS: Donald Trump.
JF: Donald Trump. (laughs)
JS: Okay. Who is more of a narcissist, Kim Jong-un or Donald Trump?
JF: Donald Trump, absolutely. (laughs) I mean, that’s — it’s a function of American culture. Korean culture doesn’t foster that kind of narcissism.”
Highly recommend that everyone who is worried right now listens to it. (Also, bonus interview with Jeremy Corbyn!)
Yes, of course he is. Martial law would also be a big step up from the current ICE ‘enforcement’ raids and the militarization of the police. They could also prompt what is called a Reichstag moment – similar to the mysterious burning of the German parliament building and blaming it on undesireables/Jews to clamp down further.
Funny how Emperor Zero can draw a red line in the sand and NK can easily step over it. Everyone needs to calm down a bit on the threat of a nuke war.
If a first strike occurs, it’ll be conventional missiles (Guam by NK or Patriot Missiles by the US). There’s a procedure for sending nukes and only the US has them in this encounter. Relax.
Best bet is an op to take out Kim. No shots fired, just strangulation or poison by a Seal team member.
WTH
So like, Kim has no guards in place and NK is easy to infiltrate, right?
Theoretically, the best scenario is that an allied group in his inner circle take him out. But what happens afterwards? An equally evil successor? Olive branch to South Korea? Anarchy and different groups fighting for control?
This is scary AF.
And Two Scoops can’t shut up. Latest tweets:
“My first order as President was to renovate and modernize our nuclear arsenal. It is now far stronger and more powerful than ever before….
…Hopefully we will never have to use this power, but there will never be a time that we are not the most powerful nation in the world!”
My God, we’re all gonna die.
It takes more than 7 months to do such things. And by going back to the 1930s on energy, India and China will surpass us
Rapunzel, This latest baby fist tweet is equal parts horrifyingly moronic and insane. BF suddenly updated US the nuclear arsenal. Right. He thinks Kim is now shaking in his boots while the rest of the world is reassured.
If US politicians can’t reason with him, I hope a few world leaders have been on the phone lecturing him and John Kelly on how incredibly monstrous baby fists’ comments are.
Never ever ever gonna be a time when the US is not the most powerful, eh? Just ask Rome and England how that worked out (off the top of my head).
Also, Donald, ‘hopefully’ is not the right word choice – “I hope” or “Let’s hope” would have been appropriate. (Though I think purists like me have lost the battle on hopefully. Hopefully I’ll get used to it.)
And Tillerson said that we can all sleep well at night knowing that we have the King of Lies and Fake News “defending” us, in other words using twitter to bully North Korea. Tillerson and Niki are now totally and completely useless. Tillerson said that the King of Lies and Fake News knows what he is doing. No, he doesn’t know what he is doing. Where are the adults in the WH?
It sounds like Jared copied the “Fire and Fury” speech from what Truman said in 1945. The King of Lies and Fake News wasn’t off message when he made the “Fire and Fury” speech because it looked like he had memorized the speech(he was taking pauses and closing his eyes as if he was trying to recall what he had to say next) and was getting help from Jared for the parts he couldn’t remember(Jared was sitting right in front of Melanie, I can’t tell who was sitting in front of The King of Lies and Fake News-it might have been John Kelly, and Tom Price was sitting next to The King of Lies and Fake News).
Now it’s being spun that the “Fire and Fury” speech from the The King of Lies and Fake News was sending a message to China, not North Korea. Jared did write the speech, so I could see Jared using The King of Lies and Fake News to send threats to China.
This administration is a joke. Everyday, the WH staff gives the King of Lies and Fake News 2 folders filled only with positive things(for instance photos that make him look powerful, but what photos are they using because every photo of him makes him look more like a caricature and odd). It was Reince and Spicer’s idea. This is the state of our country? We have an incompetent president who is more concerned about feeding his ego, then working in our best interests. Instead of studying those photos and fake positive news, he should take the time to learn about the things he is making life changing decisions on. He still hasn’t commented on the Mosque attack.
There still is no big coverage of Devin Nunes sending 2 WH officials to London to find and talk to Christopher Steele about the dossier.
Now we know why Paul Ryan removed Barbara Lee’s amendment(to limit the presidents ability to start a war) from the defense bill. This wasn’t covered much by the press either. Just about everyone on the Senate voted for her amendment and then she said overnight it was removed from the defense bill without any consultation from other members.
China basically told him to STFU this morning.
If Trump was sending this message to China, he probably should have mentioned that and said it to them in private. That’s bullshit. He flew off the handle again and didn’t think twice about the results this crazy threat could lead to. Everytime he does something like this, it’s to protect his hurt ego.
A Trump Aide just said that the Mosque bombing may be “fake hate crime “
i though big shit john kelly was going to come in and pull the reins on trump? wasn’t it just last week that pundits all over were “already seeing a big change” BULLSHIT! no one can control an idiot who thinks they are smart. also – “korea best not…” is this a playground? the last time i heard someone use “you best not blah blah blah” it was literally in sixth grade on the playground.
Lol… Lizzie. So right about the language. As Joy Reid pointed out on Twitter, he sounded like Huggie Bear. Very apropos considering he was hugging himself.
Oh my god this though.
People REALLY need to understand and accept that this guy cannot be controlled or contained. People REALLY need to finally recognize how f*cking insane and dangerous it is to have an unhinged lunatic in the WH.
Today is the 72nd anniversary of the bombing of Nagasaki. Sunday was Hiroshima’s anniversary. Today’s bombs are 100 times more powerful. Every member of Congress should be forced to watch the films taken in those cities after the bombings, the utter devastation, the shadows of obliterated people that were imprinted on sidewalks, read about the cancers suffered by the survivors. No need for trump or his disgusting, subhuman acolytes to view this. They wouldn’t care.
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/72nd-bomb-anniversary-nagasaki-amid-us-nkorea-tension-49105554
In high school I picked up the book “Hiroshima”. It was very eye opening as to what happened after the bomb dropped.
It was required reading in our schools.
I dunno, if we’re going to have a dick swinging contest, I’d really like to see those two whip it out. If nothing else, maybe THAT will get to his voters… his bigly sham.
How do you “whip out” a cocktail weenie?
More like a flick.
Like punting paper ‘football’ triangles on a kitchen table with an imaginary goalpost. 😀
And adding to the insanity of this nuclear piss match with North Korea, is there really talk of sending mercenaries into Afghanistan? is there really talk of replacing the U.S. military with paid mercenaries?
Yes. Care of Betsy Devos’ brother.
NK doesn’t have the capability to launch a nuke yet. It’s incredibly complex to mount the warhead on a missile, fire the missile, guide the missile to a point using telemetry, and ensure the warhead explosion occurs at the point of impact 1000-2000 miles away. NK is at best 3-5 years away from this sophistication. Best they could do now is drop a nuke from the sky, like the US did with the Enola Gay aircraft, or mount a dirty bomb on a missile and hope it reaches a point miles away. Only in the 1970s were the Americans able to launch the Trident missile from a submarine.
Please be calm.
I’m not certain it matters if NK can actually do it. It certainly doesn’t seem to matter to trump.
The threat, the rhetoric, is enough to get him hopping all over, making threats and starting a war. Whether or not NK can retaliate in kind is not exactly the point, is it?
it’s just a convenient country to use, for trump.
Orange Voldy threatened to rain fire, fury, and power the world has never seen in response to future THREATS. NK doesn’t have to attack anything for him to consider words or positioning a threat
I’m not worried about NK nuking us, I’m worried about Trump nuking NK.
And everyone should be concerned as this man has proven to be erratic and uncontrollable.
His language as of late sounds eerily similar to Truman’s language before and after Hiroshima.
And Truman was saying it after nearly 4 years of a brutal fighting war with Japan and Japanese refusal to surrender whereas Trump is saying it after a few exchanges of … words.
The Doomsday Prepper crowd must be wetting their pants with excitement. Meawhile, the rest of us are trying to get through the day while being secretly terrified. Bigly has been in office six months and is about to start a war. Remember when he said something about why have all those nuclear bombs if they never got used? He’s like a kid who’s been told not to touch, and now it’s all he wants to do. People will die, but unless it’s Ivanka he won’t care. Here’s hoping that our Generals are scared too and figure out a way to stop the toddler in chief from pressing that button.
Praying Guam stays safe.
I just called my do-nothing Senator Joe Donnelly’s office to ask that Donnelly condemn baby fists’ back and forth world destruction tweets with Kim. Some young dude in Donnelly’s office answering the phone just said “Have a nice day, ma’am.”
Can’t we just send Dennis Rodman over with a fruit basket and tell Kim we will let him own a basketball team or something? And they really really need to keep Trump off Twitter especially on North Korea.
I wrote on FB last night that I would have more confidence in our country with Rodman at the helm right now.
I watched Dunkirk last night so waking up to this is terrifying.
From sinkholes swallowing homes in Florida to 140 degrees hot temperatures in Iran, the world is in dire need of sanity. Instead, we have Trump stirring up trouble possibly to deflect but also because making threats is second nature to the man. Trump is like the bomb that destabilizes an already shaky underground to hasten future earthquakes. But still, incredibly, he has supporters. The Christian Right must be hoping to see the world’s end, as they believe the “end time” is near and Trump is certainly the man to pull the trigger to get things started!!! Insanity reigns!
Take some time to listen to music today, guys. I just finished Randy Newman’s new album Dark Matter. I highly recommend it. It was oddly comforting just to escape for awhile. Next up, Patti Smith Outside Society.
On July 26, the FBI raided Manaforts home. This is the day after he met with the Senate. Grassley’s attempts to protect Manafort and The ing of Lies and Fake News by postponing his hearing and dropping the subpoena completely failed. Jared spoke privately to the Senate on July 24(not under oath) and then privately while under oath to the HIC (with Devin Nunes present)on July 25. So did Jared give them compromising information on Manafort?
What else happened on July 26?
The King of Lies and Fake New had a meltdown on twitter, he has meltdowns everyday, but this one seemed worse than usual. He announced on twitter that he was banning Transgenders from the military; threatened Lisa M; verbally attacked McCab, claiming that he was Comey’s friend and that Sessions should have fired him because his wife gave money to Hillary; implied that he was God; announced that Apple was opening a factory in Wisconsin; was photographed in the garden with children.
FBI had a search warrant for Manafort’s home. Unlike a subpoena, a search warrant requires probable cause. They’re onto something
Oh, I missed this story! Dang!
Manafort and Flynn seem to be central to so much.
A search warrant requires a judge’s order. Obviously the federal judge agreed because he signed it.
Awesome.
Always look behind the Tweets. The pattern is obvious. When he feels threatened he is especially crazy. I wish the news would do segments about what is actually happening beyond his bloviating and circus barking. Tangerine is poked and he follows the script while the little bigot-elves whistle while they work at dismantling democracy and destroying the country.
Can Twitter ban baby fists as a matter of national security?
Excellent question! I would LOVE to see that.
No, I want him to keep tweeting. If nothing else, it makes it more and more difficult for any elected official to claim they care about this country while they let that man’s administration continue.
Yes he should keep tweeting and I want him to. But for the sake of it, having him banned even for one day would be like a slap in the face.
Some transgender people in the service just filed a lawsuit against Trump. What will he say about this? I don’t know if he made any comments about the 3 marines who lost their lives or the bombing in Minnesota. What a lovable guy! 😢
Not a word about the Marines or the mosque. Nope.
A Trump aide just said the Mosque bombing may be a “fake hate crime ”
Good grief. They can’t really believe that
It was Gorka, who is awful (they all are). Lots of Trump surrogates and Trumpsters on social media believe all reported hate crimes after the election (especially against Muslims) are being faked by “leftists” to make Trump and Conservatives look bad. They also believe there is a “deep state shadow government” trying to take down Trump. Hannity is really pushing that one. Basically nothing that makes the administration look bad is real.
You mean pedophile in waiting Gorka (sorry he looks like one)? These people are trash pure trash.
Saw suggestion on Twitter that we should just let the Comb Over vs the Comb Back fight it out man to man in a big Thunderdome and make it reality tv. But Trump is such a coward he would never do it. I believe even Kim is more rational than he is. We are dependent on Mattis, McMaster, and Kelly to keep him from the codes. Scary stuff.
His bone spur would suddenly reappear.
This dumb moron is getting into a pissing contest with the other dumb moron in order to distract us from the fact that he had his attorney passing “love notes to Mueller” and that Mueller raided one of Manafort’s residences for documents pertaining to Russia. Gawd his playbook is so pathetic and transparent. I’m angry that he’s trying to get us all killed in his quest to save his wrinkled old smelly Orange hide.
Re the notes to Mueller. He’s trying to “woo” him like he did Comey. HuffPo said Orangino atty passed the notes to Mueller about how Orangino thinks Mueller is “doing a great job.”
“You’re doing a great job” = “If I give you my son-in-law will you let me go?”
Hahhah why dickless Ken when Complicit Barbie is available?
I read the other day that aqua net butt crumb orders steak so well done it’s a brick on a plate. Over cooked and charred meat contains a compound that causes dementia. This mofo has been eating steak bricks with ketchup for half a century!
It is almost lunch time in Chicago and I am going to lunch with some co workers and it might be even be a liquid lunch. We are all grateful that we are not dead yet and that the men or boys in our life won’t have to go to war. Also, when is this nightmare of a President will be over with.
What’s liquid lunch? Soup or smoothie? Or smth boozish?
Cool. He’s probably going to get my family and countless other families killed.
Keep your fucking tiny hands and microscopic DICK out of the business of my people you uneducated self obsessed piece of garbage waste of life human being.
We Koreans are a kind and generous people. Until you fuck with us. I dare you to fuck with us Donald. I DARE YOU. 😈
No he won’t.
Does this mean I don’t have to go back to the office next weeK?
You can probably work from home…
Andrew Sullivan wrote a piece that predicted how this would go down after the election. It is worth a read. It discusses Brexit and Trump and what the world would look like in the future. I was written in November 2016.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/11/andrew-sullivan-president-trump-and-the-end-of-the-republic.html
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Even if hes stupid enough to want to send off nukes, I can’t believe that the rest of the government/military would do that. Theres no way they cant send a nuke and not have retaliation. I dont think anyone smart enough will actually risk that.
@Marianne – I suspect you are right and that the entire GOP establishment is now working around Trump rather than with him, which is why I’m actually not envisioning a permanent vacation from work due to North Korean aggression starting next week. It is all turning completely surreal, though. My guess is that Trump will never finish out his term.
I’ve thought this for months. And I’m disturbed that I take comfort in the idea of our military leaders being all ‘Nah, we don’t have to listen to the president, and there’s nothing you can do about it.’
Even if there was no military response, we would face severe sanctions. And a military response if Trump acted first could come from many others, not just NK.
Even Turtle Face is talking back. He said the repeal failed because Orangino had unrealistic expectations re timeline (gee you think?) and he doesn’t know how the govt works (Gee another medal for Captain Obvious).
I take cold comfort that these worms are turning against and will canabalize each other.
My mom went home to Arkansas to visit relatives last weekend. Her BIL, a man she thought of as a truly good man (he’s also a pastor), stated “We now have the best president we’ve ever had …..”. Apparently flames shot from her eyes, and she lost it. Her brother joined the BIL and went at her. In summary she said – So you think a man who feels he can grab any woman’s pu$$y is a great president? If you change the channel from Fox news you might actually learn something.
My only regret is that she wasn’t wearing her Nasty Woman shirt. She’s 81 years old.
Well if it makes your mom feel better at least the BIL isn’t saying that God said it was ok to nuke Nor Kor.
Your mother sounds awesome. I wish my Trumpster mother was as smart. I can’t believe so many truly good people supported him and still do. These arguments are happening everywhere splitting families and ruining friendships. I never thought a president could have this affect on our lives.
@beth
I couldn’t agree more. My family is split too which isn’t unusual but the level of rage simmering is. He is splitting up marriage, causing riffs and estrangement between countless families. I have hope for our country to recover from the damage, but there is permenent damage done to all of us.
My husband and I are divorcing. Now I’m not saying it’s all because of Trump (hubby is a Deplorable; I voted for HRC), as we’ve been unraveling for years. But after another of his Trump Is Great/HRC is evil rants…. well it’s become a lot easier to kick his stupid butt to the curb. After years of trying to make it work, 7 months into this administration I’m comfortable – even happy – to end it. I’m taking my name back too.
@grandjen
Sorry to hear your news. I hope everything works out for you.
To borrow from this season’s Game of Thrones, he’ll be king of the ashes?
Seriously though, the language of “fire and fury” is so scary. This is real. A nuclear war feels more possible than ever since the Cold War ended. All because of two narcissistic egomaniacs throwing their toys out of the pram because “the big kids don’t like me!” Both of whom are ensconced from its aftermath thanks to their undeserved wealth and privilege. What a world.
And of course his knuckle-dragging supporters will eat it up because ‘MURICA IS TEH BESTEST, proving again that Trump is a weak man’s idea of a strong man.
In honor of Book Lover’s Day, all I ask is that we put people who read actual books in charge now.
Amen
I’m very alarmed/scared. I’m just going to spend time with my family, try to watch movies I’ve never seen and try to finish my want to read list on Goodreads.
I don’t think we will die anytime soon.
I sincerely believe the generals in the Pentagon would refuse to attack North Korea preemptively, even with conventional weapons. Using nukes first is unthinkable, these people are aware of the consequences, even if their so-called commander-in-chief is n ot. They are the grown-ups in this administration. If this goes on much longer, Americans can look forward to a military coup followed by civil war.
To lighten the mood, let me quote John Adams:
“In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress.”
@heidi
I think the military coup is already underway with Mattis, McMaster, and Kelly. Didn’t Mattis and McMaster make a pact never to be out of the country at the same time so one of them can always monitor what is going on? It’s not like any of these people like Trump. What Bannon is doing to McMaster, who is active duty while chicken sh!t Bannon and Trump spend their energies bashing minorities and ruining the country is disgraceful.
The generals have gone along with every other foolish war. They had no problem bombing the hell out of Iraq, invading and occupying it and along the way causing civilian deaths easily in the hundreds of thousands over the two wars. They had no problem staying entangled in Afghanistan for so long, killing more civilians in the first two months than all the 9/11 hijackers combined had done, because somebody thought maybe perhaps who-knows bin Laden might possibly be hidden there maybe once upon a time.
We can only hope this will be different because Trump is so obviously batshit crazy. But I wouldn’t count on it.
Iraq and Afghanistan weren’t nuclear though. This could be the end of the human race, Planet Earth and all its lifeforms. This is more than just a regime change in a handful of countries, this is life as we know it.
I shouldn’t have read this thread before going to sleep last night. I had a nightmare about nuclear war. Awful stuff. Can you imagine the horror of knowing the nukes were on the way? And if the intial explosions or radiation didn’t kill you imagine the atrocites that would occur post apocalypse once society and the rule of law had completely collapsed.
Now the WH(an unnamed source/leaker) is spinning that The King of Lies and Fake News “Fire and Fury” comment was improvised and not scripted. This is a lie. We know that the “Fire and Fury” comment was scripted because the speech was written by Jared, who was sitting across from The King of Lies and Fake News and Melanie. You can tell that The King of Lies and Fake News was reciting from a pre-written script because of how he kept trying to recall the information(the pauses and slighting closing his eyes). After seeing the negative feedback from the “fire and fury” comment, the Jared is now trying to throw The King of Lies and Fake News under the bus.
They should test their first weapon by directing it straight at his house. When he’s home of course.
I saw a great cartoon about this. Trump and a general standing on the balconey of the White House, looking at an incoming nuclear weapon from North Korea. Says the general: “We had a guy who could have stopped it, but he was trans.”
Not his house. That’s our house. They should torpedo trump tower or anything with his name on it.
I’m terrified to live here now, not knowing if/when we’ll be on the receiving end of regular bombs or nukes. When the going gets rough, Dumbass can take his family and live in the Alps somewhere, but we’ll all be stuck with the fallout (nuclear or not). I just hope if they do drop a nuke on us, I won’t survive. Watch Barefoot Gen, the story of survivors of the Hiroshima bombing. It’s ghastly.
I loathe Trump and that awful little Korean runt. I wish we could ship them off to space.
My niece is part of the U.S. military police, based in South Korea. Every day I wonder if today is the day I’m going to lose her to this nightmare. And the worst thing is, my fecking brother voted for Trump.
I’m more worried about Trump attacking North Korea. I don’t think I ever heard a President blatantly threaten to destroy another country’s population before. Civilian deaths are usually euphemistically considered unfortunate collateral damage after the fact, even though they know it’s going to happen when they start tossing bombs around. A whole lot of damage can be done with non-nuclear weapons. WWII was a snowball fight in comparison with modern arsenals.
This is why disarmament efforts are so important. I don’t know why anybody would think the USA is safe to have such stockpiles. As long as we can threaten other countries with our WMDs, it is unrealistic to expect other countries to not pursue their own arsenals for protection against us. They want deterrence also.
And as long as you put so much unchecked power in the hands of one single person…