It felt like it was only a matter of minutes – Prince Harry and Meghan Markle announced their engagement, and some of the first comments about it were “oh God I hope they don’t have to invite Donald Trump to the wedding.” I’ve said this whole time that it’s unlikely that Harry and Meghan would be “required” by the palace or the government to invite the Trumps, because of Harry’s position in the line of succession. He’s not the direct heir to the throne. He’s not even the heir’s heir. Harry is currently the fifth in line to the throne, soon to be sixth after Kate gives birth to the third kid. The fifth in line doesn’t have to invite the American #NotMyPresident. Harry gets to invite pretty much whoever he wants. And I hope he does invite the Obamas, because he’s been close to both Michelle and Barack Obama for years. But there’s a problem – apparently, Theresa May’s government worries that Donald Trump will throw a huge tantrum if Harry invites the Obamas and NOT the Trumps.
Government mandarins are urging Prince Harry not to invite the Obamas to his wedding for fear of infuriating Donald Trump. Harry and fiancée Meghan Markle have told aides they want the former US president and wife Michelle at their big day on May 19.
The 33-year-old prince has become good friends with the Obamas since bonding with them during the Invictus Games. But Britain’s relations with Trump’s White House have sunk to their lowest ebb since his election last year. The property billionaire does not hide his loathing of Mr Obama and is expected to be enraged if his predecessor gets the coveted call up when he won’t.
The young Royal couple’s dislike of the new president is well known. Meghan made disparaging comments about him on social media during his election campaign last year.
There are deep fears among senior Foreign Office and No10 officials that another perceived national snub will make it impossible for Theresa May to meaningfully engage with Trump. A senior government source said: “Harry has made it clear he wants the Obamas at the wedding, so it’s causing a lot of nervousness. Trump could react very badly if the Obamas get to a Royal wedding before he has had a chance to meet the Queen. Conversations are ongoing about and ministers will eventually have to decide. If the PM lays down the law, Harry will just have to suck it up.”
As the wedding is not a state occasion, the Government only have a consultative role in its organization and heads of state will not be invited. The guest list is instead being drawn up in full by Buckingham Palace rather than the Department of Culture, Media and Sport – which presides over national events such as state funerals.
Dear British people, British government officials, British establishment: the American people will not be offended if Harry and Meg choose not to invite the bloated orange monster to their wedding. If Trump does throw a tantrum about the Obamas getting an invitation, we’ll actually think it’s really funny. Our two countries still have a special relationship regardless of the infantile neo-Nazi sitting in the Oval Office. We’ll totally understand if your ginger prince wants to publicly snub the Trumps and welcome the Obamas. We love the Obamas too!
PS… Harry’s podcast interview with President Obama is out today. You can go here to hear it:
The full interview between @BarackObama and Prince Harry is available as a podcast here https://t.co/ar9Vkb0kcY
— Kensington Palace (@KensingtonRoyal) December 27, 2017
Photos courtesy of Backgrid and WENN.
Won’t anybody think of poor Princess Nagini!
Maybe Meghan. She did fawn over Trumpette/Princess Nagini when she interviewed her on her blog, didn’t she? I am not saying Meghan really liked her, there are reasons why bloggers interview certain people. But Meghan interviewing and fawning over the daughter of a sexist racist b***rd like DOTUS was even before becoming DOTUS speaks louder than words. Read: Meghan was an opportunist and did not care or was not intelligent enough to figure it out. Never mind the engagement with Harry a few years later. It only shows a certain pattern of reaching certain heights by associating with certain people. Some of them being bad people, like Nagini.
I think you are making some fairly large assumptions based on a working actress’ attempt to build a lifestyle blog side business. I would not assume that fawning over a “fashion designer” who was having some success at that time in an effort to build that business reveals anything other than a desire to build a blog business. Celebrity Instagram and blogs are fake intimacy, that’s part of the sales process. I would not assume that blog showed much of the real Meghan any more than GOOP is a complete representation of Gwyneth Paltrow, or Draper James is all Reese Witherspoon.
In MM’s defense Ivy fooled a lot of people in NYC social circles because she was thought of as the acceptable Trump and she worked that angle for many years. Her press was always positive until now when 45 has been front and center and exposed. Before he wasn’t in everyone’s face all the time, so his full vile repulsive sociopathic self-wasn’t primarily known.
She has mastered the art of talking without saying anything. And she built up an image that is easy to push when it isn’t scrutinized like it is now and all her dirt has come out.
So, what the world knows of her now was not what she even seemed up close and personal. But she was laughed at behind closed doors for her extensive surgeries and her absurd modeling career. Her father kind of made her a bit of an eye roller.
Ivy desperately wanted to hob knob in certain circles, but that last name is kryptonite, and it is easy to see this with her choice of a husband. Crooked J is the son of a disgraced criminal New Jersey family whose tawdry antics became public knowledge. I swear my grandparents would have drugged me and locked me in the attic before even a date with him. Jewish or not. Grandparent’s story or not. And she would have had plenty of help.
Her bestie is shady Wendi Deng. Enuff said.
So take that into account. MM wouldn’t know this stuff about her.
ELX: Meghan chose to cover Nagini. Smart people or their smart teams choose well who to be associated with. Meghan did not choose well or did not do enough research to realize that her association with Nagini could raise some brows in regards to ethical considerations. Like the backlash over I don’t remember which singer and an Oscar winning actress who were paid lots of money to sing for, and host some party as far as I remember, with two highly questionable political and business people from somewhere in Europe and Asia. The precedents are there. Those two women chose more money and more fame, and they or their teams chose wrong people. And who suffered the backlash?
Everytime there is a Meghan story you come on to not so subtly throw shade at her. It reminds me a lot of the Angelina haters.
A lot of people liked Ivanka prior to 2016. I had no issue with her and thought she was pretty.
Now I do but that’s in 2017 and beyond.
Yeah, @SoulSPA, I think it’s a bit of a reach to say that Meghan interviewed Nagini out of some malicious intent. I think at the time, a lot of people assumed that Ivanka was her father’s daughter, but she didn’t run her mouth like he did, so most people just didn’t think much of her at all. It’s only since then that she’s made her stance on her father’s policies perfectly clear and invited everyone’s disdain.
I remember reading in this very blog that someone had friends who went to prep school with Ivanka and said she was perfectly lovely. Children of people like Trump learn how to please and be friendly, and the average person would probably like Ivanka if she turned the charm on you and you didn’t know her politics.
Domino- Ivanka’s politics used to be Democratic. She was a registered Democrat until recently. She certainly doesn’t spit on people the way her father does.
Ivanka must have been all right when she was younger. She was friends with Chelsea Clinton at one time, I think they went to school together. She’s just marched toward the dark side of The Force since then. But she’s probably a mixed bag, like most people. Her father’s campaign and Administration has been so polarizing and ugly, that has probably caused a lot of former friends and acquaintances to distance themselves from her.
If she has lied to the FBI and not disclosed her and her family’s foreign contacts properly when applying for a security clearance, though, she has committed felonies and is at risk of arrest. She also can’t refuse to testify as a spouse against her father, only her husband. She will have to take the Fifth, which would tell her former friends that she’s guilty, guilty, guilty. Reconstructing her former status may be quite difficult, especially if the family fortune gets eaten up in fines and legal fees.
Trump doesn’t want to go, it’s Ivanka who is desperate for the invite. I hope they invite the Obamas and Chelsea Clinton.
Bonus points if they invite Hilary and Elizabeth Warren. It may trigger the dotard into a rage stroke.
Yes, then it must be done!
Hahaha, Ivy dear Ivy no one wants a soon to be convicted con artist at their wedding. HM must not breathe that air and risk cooties.
This made my day!
And the Bidens.
What about poor Melania, doesn’t anybody care if she wants to attend?
Oh, Trump wants to go…..are you kidding me? Did you ever read the story of how desperately he was clamoring for an invite to Chelsea Clintons wedding?
Anyway, I reckon they’ve already settled it. The dredging up of Meghan’s interview with Ivanka (as well as Ivanka’s belated congratulations of the couple) was in order to allow them invite her as the Trump surrogate for the day. The only vaguely acceptable Trump in a family of pariahs. That way, they can also invite the Obamas, without it looking like a partisan or political statement.
That way, the Bloated-Rotten-Orange-With-No-Soul can save face in the midst of the prolonged snob being dished to him by the British people.
The gift of Brexit, just keeps on giving.
LOLO…I don’t think anyone has ever cared about Melania’s feelings on anything.
And I am sure the Trumps will not be upset — in other words, they will give Prince H his due as 5th in line to the punchline of a joke.
Nope
The Trumps couldn’t even be bothered to show up at the Kennedy Center Honors, and that’s a guaranteed television appearance.
These are totally unprecedented times with a literal monster in the White House. He’s not just some normal American President that it would be impolite to snub. Nobody should be thinking of his feelings. He’s a hate monger and kowtowing to him like he’s an actual politician with solid views is disgusting. He’s a horrible man and a horrible president. He is constantly embarrassing everywhere he goes and the fact that most of Britian, the Queen, and Harry and Meghan want nothing to do with him is his own damn fault. You can’t act like he does and say the things he does and still expect the world to give you the respect due to the President of the United States. I hate how he keeps being normalized. I hate how people seem to make decisions about him as if her were a normal president. Nothing he does is normal, he is not at all normal. Decisions about him should not be made based on past precedent or what normal etiquette would dictate. He deserves to be furious if the Obamas are invited and he’s not. He does not deserve to clean the Obamas toilets, let alone be in the same room with him. He does not deserve to be in the same room with all of the esteemed guests that will be invited to this wedding. His stupid feelings should not be considered even the tiniest bit. We know that he will not express gratitude or return the favor anyways. Even if he’s invited and the Obamas aren’t, for some sick and twisted reason, he will still find something to throw a tantrum about and likely while he’s still in the church.
@Amy
You are so right…. the Bloated-Rotten-Orange-With-No-Soul does not deserve to be within a 10 mile radius of any sort of civility. Unfortunately, Britain is no longer where it was economically and the horrors of the ongoing Brexit negotiations means that the UK can’t afford to snub Trump forever. Sadly, we NEED him to secure favourable trade terms with the US or we’re even more screwed.
Considering how spiteful he is, everybody knows he won’t tolerate Obama attending an event like that while he’s snubbed. He will make sure the UK pays dearly for that blunder.
So, even though everybody knows that neither bride nor groom respect him in any way, or want him there, he WILL have some sort of representation at the wedding. He holds the cards on this one. I’m prepared to take a bet on it.
@Amy:
We can all see how utterly detestable and loathsome this man is, but …..but….but Brexit. Poor Theresa May is taking (and keeps taking) one for the team……
https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/02b744e61d7880c4471ad106adbb161e60d4bb7f/0_0_650_443/master/650.jpg?w=700&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=bf1b21a2572db0d396a4a46946191820
I said this on a previous thread but it bears repeating. Diplomatically, M+H cannot invite Obama without appearing to invite Trump. I got vilified for it at the time but it’s true.
They can get around it, however, by allowing Trump to turn down the invite (he will say he’s too busy), even though he wasn’t truly invited and everyone knows it. Then Obama can come. Or Melania could come for Trump. But it would be shocking and a breach of protocol if the Obamas come and the Trumps were not even invited. Personal friendships aside.
(ETA I would LOVE for Trump to get shafted. Of course Meghan and Harry don’t want Trump there! But it’s not worth starting a war over).
There is NO WAY DT can start a war with one of our allies over not being invited to the wedding. He can tweet-cry about it and attempt to punish them economically but being as it’s the UK he’d have a really difficult time with that.
It’s an exaggeration to prove a point. But this is a man you can bait with a tweet, so it’s not that far off.
Diplomatically? Who the hell cares what the 6th in line to the throne does diplmatically?
Well apparently the U.K. government cares enough to warn them about it. You’re shooting the messenger here. I’m not saying what SHOULD happen, I’m telling you what is MOST LIKELY to happen.
@Annabelle i totally see what you are saying. I was just reading about some of the random rules the Royals have to follow and being completely political impartial is one of them. Another random rule is that they cannot play monopoly.
The Palace should invite all the top people involved in Invictus and that includes Melania so that way a Trump will be at the wedding and it will not be such a snub to her husband. See, I have solved a tricky diplomatic situation for the royal family. I am now taking a bow.
Melania and the Obamas will be at the wedding. Also Barack and Michelle were very kind to Melania, who seems to have gained confidence and more popularity and managed to push her stepdaughter out of the office of first lady!
I bet Melania could really dish the dirt on Trump if she wanted to. She must be sick of him now, and I believe she has discovered that she now has ‘power’ over him, and he has to be careful to keep her on his right side.
Trump woul probably have some outrageous demands for security and anride in the Queen’s carriage, so when the UK has to say nope to those demands… voila! Problem solved!
Exactly. Security concerns would be another acceptable excuse.
#IQ45 would sh1t himself in the presence of TQ. But I totally believe he would request a ride in the carriage.
He doesn’t want to see Andrew. Talk about awkward.
No worries Tangerine Menace will stay stateside with his Bronze Bride.
What the heck is up with her BB shellac she looks like she fell into a vat of bronzer? I saw her Christmas photo next to the Tange, and I yelped out of fear. True story and I kept replaying it over and over forcing my husband to listen to my ranting.
Finally, he just got sick of me and pretended to nap.
But???
@Magnoliarose, why would it be awkward for Trump to meet Andrew? Because of the Epstein connection?
Seriously, though, isn’t Obama a private citizen now? Just for the sake of argument – if Prince Harry was a friend of Dubya and wanted him and his wife to attend his wedding, would it cause an international crisis as well?
“if Prince Harry was a friend of Dubya and wanted him and his wife to attend his wedding, would be cause an international crisis as well? ”
No, Tanguerita. No it wouldn’t, and I think we both know why it wouldn’t!
Can’t make these arguments. Trump hates Obama, targeted him during Obama’s presidency and continues to attack his record. Trump didn’t go after W. Both Obama and W would also still be called President, which would stick in Trump’s bloated craw.
No, it wouldn’t, because Trump isn’t racistically (that is probably not a word but you know what I mean) obsessed with Dubya.
But that’s exactly what I mean – inviting Obamas wouldn’t be a breach of protocol. And who the f..k cares about feelings of the Bloated pile of Cheeto dust? He certainly never does.
For the record, if Harry was friends with a war criminal like Bush, i’d be out protesting the wedding.
Virtual high-five and hug for you, LAK.
@Tanguerita:
Brexiters argued that one of the biggest prizes from Britain leaving the EU would be the prospect of the UK signing a lucrative trade deal with the US….of course, Trump was championing this fallacy while he was encouraging the UK to leave.
If talks go like they have for a revised US deal with Canada and Mexico, Trump’s promises/lies won’t be delivered ‘very, very quickly’……in fact, he can make sure they keep going very, very slowly indeed. Furthermore, he can ensure a very, very unfavourable deal if he wants to, so sadly, we don’t have a lot of leeway left from a snobbery perspective, before he starts to push back in a way that will really hurt a lot of people in the long term.
That is the reason why how Harry/BRF handles this matters.
I disagree completely, Annabelle B. Precedence was set when (current) President Obama was not invited to William and Kate’s wedding. So, there is no standing tradition to invite the current US president to a non-State wedding of the monarch’s grandchild (even when that grandchild is going to be king – William). So further-down-the-line Harry is under no obligation to invite Trump, especially since his wedding is more private and smaller than William’s. The Obamas can be invited simply as friends of the wedding couple and charity partners.
It’s fine if no presidents are invited. But this would be seen as choosing one very recently former President over the sitting US President.
I agree with you @inthekitchen. Invite the Obamas as friends and charity partners. Private citizens for as much as the former first couple can be but Obama is not in office. Sparkles’ wedding is not a state occasion. If they don’t invite any other head of state except for monarchs, there should not be any problem.
@Annabelle Bronstein: I totally hear you. But the problem should stand with DOTUS who, notwithstanding his position in the oval office, has proved to be accepting of white supremacists and being a sexist and misogynistic arse**le. I understood from the article that the British government has a consultative function here, meaning they can express an opinion but not make a decision. Plus, why make a circus with DOTUS out of the Sparkle wedding? DOTUS’ visit to the UK was postponed already. And Melania does not deserve to be at the wedding either. She’s expressed support of her husband publicly not only tacitly.
@SoulSpa,
You have hit the proverbial nail on its head.
If this was any other President, I’d understand the need for formal invitation from Harry and Markle wrt diplomacy but Trump spits in the face of all protocol and decorum so Harry can probably get away with the snub. Trump’s a narcissist and dumb but he’s not dumb enough to shun, in any meaningful way, one of our oldest allies.
I think it’s possible that Harry breaks protocol here (it’s really his obligation and his friendships). I’m just saying it’ll be a pretty big deal if he does.
@AB what protokol do you keep talking about?? There is no protocol for this situation. Obama is a private citizen and a friend of the groom, who is never going to be a king.
@Tanguerita one of the most followed protocols of all: being royal comes with the understanding that you will not be political or display political views, but you will instead work with whichever party is in power. This move would be seen (right or wrong) as being overtly political.
Tanguerita: Considering the Foreign office is spitting tacks about this particular invitation or the lack of one shows protocol exists.
Not to mention that trump is an out white supremacist, pro-Nazi madman and Meghan is African American. Trump is an anomaly, nothing should be decided about him based on precedent or etiquette. His entire presidency is shrouded in scandal and corruption. He may be facing charges or impeachment by May. This is not a normal time, he is not a normal president, he is hateful and deserves to be snubbed. It’s not like he’s just some normal republican and Harry and Meghan disagree with some of his policies. Harry, Meghan, and all good people all over the world violently disagree with his ethos, with his very being.
I think the reason they are spitting the dummy has more to do with the fact that the current US president is essentially a pouty toddler than protocol. Were it anyone else it’s doubtful that it would be an issue.
Sadly, you’re right. He won’t come, of course, because of security, but he wants that invite. Maybe Melania would show…or Ivanka, if her husband hasn’t been indicted by then.
It’s no use creating a Twitter storm about something so meaningless. And apparently the British gov is demanding it, otherwise they wouldn’t have planted those stories in the tabloids yesterday.
Under no circumstances should Ivanka be considered for anything other than the investigation into Russia’s election tampering and money-laundering. She has no position and it is a sad indication of how far we have fallen so quickly that anyone would ever consider her for representing the president, a president who should not be invited to that wedding.
Yes, that’s true. I don’t want this to become a political sh%tstorm and overshadow Meghan and Harry. Better, in this instance, to do the passive aggressive thing and let Trump save face.
Can’t we just have one nice thing without Trump ruining it?
@lightpurple,
Yes, and let us all not forget this, as it got so little Big Media attention last month: https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-trump-panama/
Oh please, stop acting like you know more about protocol than the average royals-watcher, A.B. Saying your statement definitively doesn’t make it any less ridiculous.
There is no protocol that requires the 6th in line to the throne to invite the current POTUS and not invite good friends who happen to be the former POTUS and FLOTUS.
We’re seeing “protocol” being thrown to the wind with this couple, so I do not expect 45 to be there. Perhaps not the Obamas either, due more to it not being as “big” as Wills was.
Like I said, it’s fine if no presidents are invited. Choosing one President over another would be seen as political favoritism. The royal family protocol has been politically neutral for quite some time, a deal they made to preserve the monarch. If Meghan and Harry are breaking longstanding protocol of being politically neutral, it’s a big deal. How is this so controversial? It’s not as if I’m arguing this is the right way to do things, but it is the way the BRF does things.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/nov/29/meghan-markle-royal-protocol-donald-trump-brexit
You’re still not making your case with that Guardian article. If POTUS and FLOTUS happen to qualify as close enough friends to secure an invite to H&M’s “intimate” wedding, it’s not a political statement.
I maintain that it’s a silly assumption to assume that UK-US political ties will be damaged further if the Obamas attend Harry’s wedding. It ridiculous, really.
@Bunzo I suppose it might seem ridiculous to someone who knows little of British history. (I personally believe it’s ridiculous that in this day and age grown women curtesy to one another based on who married whom married first in an institutionalized pecking order, but I digress) 😉
British royals are expected to stay politically neutral due to longstanding protocol. It doesn’t matter what your opinion is; the U.K. government has now cautioned the royals about inviting former President Obama while snubbing now President Trump. It therefore is a political issue. It seems many have forgotten the relatively recent history as to what happened the last time a royal went against the cautioning of the UK Government. (See The Abdication Crisis of 1936).
I find people’s resistance to this historical context perplexing. These are just facts about the protocols of the BRF… I didnt write them!
Ok I need a cocktail 🍸Cheers
Annabelle: it isn’t an expected protocol it is a precedent the Queen set after seeing her parents make mistakes in backing someone politically in the past (Chamberlain on the balcony) and have it backfire. This is a private wedding not a state event. Even with Will & Kate’s wedding they invited European royals (most of whom are extended family in one way or another) but not heads of state of other countries.
Agreed.
@Bonzo you can’t invalidate A.B.’s comment as speculation and then speculate yourself. It is your opinion that they can be invited as friends. It is my opinion that inviting the Obamas and not Trump would be seen as a huge slight to Trump and he would be bitter and vindictive about it. But, that is just my option which is all anyone on this board can share.
@ Snap Happy
The truth is that wedding aside, the UK is already at Trump’s mercy to a large extent because of the ongoing trade discussions.
Everybody (Politicians especially) can see what will happen to the already semi-stalled agreements should Trump continue to feel snobbed.
I’m surprised people can’t see this.
I doubt that diplomacy enters into it and certainly not the druthers of a prime minister who hangs onto power by a thread. Let her suck up to Trump herself. He seems to like her, sort of. She can throw a party for him. Preferably on a yacht out in International Waters, far away from real people.
Harry is a personal friend of the Obamas, who are now private citizens. He has no obligation to invite current heads of state. They can invite their friends.
Trump hates to see protesters, and certainly he will be plagued with throngs of them if he sets foot in the U.K. I doubt that he is anxious for an invite to the wedding. He will hopefully be in exile in Dubai by then.
As someone, not from America nor the UK, this is infuriating and not the least bit funny.
Does the entire world need to be held hostage to one man’s whims?
Unfortunately, tragically, infuriatingly – right now the world *is* held hostage to one man’s whims. Thanks, US Congress, for your dereliction of duty.
One question in all of this: Has Trump even indicated that he wants to be invited and actually go? For someone with an ego as big as his the wedding would be a nightmare of bad press, protests, etc.
My guess is he’ll only care if the Obama’s get an invite and he doesn’t.
He would want the option of turning down the invite/sending a representative.
No one seems to be bothered to stop him, and all they talk about are his tweets instead of the real damage he does. They fell for it during the election, and the media still falls for it instead of digging into his sordid past.
I am convinced the media is addicted to his lunacy.
“Royals: They’re just like us!” Wedding-guest problems edition.
I hope they invite whomever they like, and wonder just how much this story is based in fact, but just in case there are alternate solutions:
1. The Obamas let them know in advance that, regrettably, they’ll be taking a long-planned vacation in May, and plan to celebrate with them after the honeymoon. Maybe throw them a separate party.
2. They invite Ivanka, who “represents” daddy, and seat her with some cousins, maybe the one who worked briefly in NYC.
Princess Eugenie? I have a feeling that she may be a bridesmaid so that won’t work. Ivanka could sit at the back somewhere next to Princess Michael of Kent.
Ha, and wear insulting jewelry too.
Hopefully in the back, behind a column (without ANY sight line!)
i thought bridesmaids and groomsmen are normally children in royal weddings – pippa as kate’s bridesmaid seemed to be an outlier.
Eugenie is unlikely to be a bridesmaid.
The bridal party will be children. It is a lovely custom.
Ivanka is angling for an invite with her 3 weeks late tweet of congratulations but under no circumstances should they legitimatize her with an invitation. There is no royalty in the US. Ivanka Trump is not a princess. She was not elected to any position. She is not an ambassador or Secretary of State. There is absolutely no legitimate situation in which she would or could represent the presidency or the American people. And does she even know either of them? No. No. No.
Absolutely. The acceptance of this is mind boggling.
Inviting Ivanka who has been complicit with the rest of the family’s support of neo-nazis would be as bad an option as inviting Mango Mussolini. Considering that the Queen’s uncle had such close ties to Hitler himself and 3 of Prince Philip’s sisters were married to high-ish ranking nazis, inviting anyone in the US government that appears to be publicly supporting neo-nazis and similar groups in the US and abroad would have very bad optics to say the least
Well Trump is coming to Britain in February and so I doubt if he will be coming again in May. I hope that May 19th has been fixed so it coincides with some other important event where Trump has to be present.
Do it, Harry! Invite all the Obamas!!
Of course the Obamas will be invited. I am convinced MO was the “mutual friend” who set up PH and MM on that blind date in the fist place so her slot on the invitation list is guaranteed.
I thought there’s was a private wedding at Windsor like Sophie and Edward so this was not an issue. I thought the rule apply to state weddings like Kate and Will
If it’s televised, Trump will want representation.
As discussed above, the sitting US president was not invited to W&K’s wedding. No reason for a sitting US president to be invited to the private wedding of the soon-to-be 6th in line.
This wedding will be nothing like Sophie and Edward’s. They are having it at Windsor because a) Its more secure and b) cheaper. Pity there will be no balcony kiss. But hopefully they will fond another way to compensate us for that loss.
This wedding will be MEGA in terms of media attention. Every hotel and guest house in Windsor is booked solid, this never happened for other royals who got married in Windsor. I really feel that Windsor will be too small and it will be chaotic for people who want to be in the town centre. I think they will have to allow some of the public access to part of the Windsor grounds where it would be safe to do so. Otherwise the international media are going to swamp everywhere.
@Princessk, it will be all right. They will set up a security perimeter around Windsor and cut it off, probably around 7:00am the morning of the wedding. They did that for W&K’s wedding in London. You couldn’t get anywhere near BP, Westminster Abbey or St James’s Park after that time.
@Tina….so what will happen if you actually want to go to Windsor and get a good position on the route?
@Princessk, I have no inside knowledge, but I would recommend being dropped off by a taxi early in the morning (as early as you can manage and still enjoy it). The easiest way would be to be dropped off in Eton and walk across the pedestrianised bridge. That’s risky though as it will almost certainly be closed to foot traffic at some early point (possibly even the night before). If you look at the map, I’d expect the traffic perimeter on the day to be around the A308/B3021/B3026/A332 area. So really as close to there as you can get. Good luck!
Thanks Tina…looks like I have a lot of logistics to sort out in the coming months.
I’m raging that he would have to even think about inviting Fuckface Von Clownstick to their wedding. It’s Harry and Meghan’s wedding, and this orange jackass will find a way to make it about HIM, especially if he and Eva Braun are invited in lieu of the Obamas. Isn’t it bad enough that they’re going to be polluting those shores come February?
Theresa May needs to concentrate on the very real issues facing her country right now and spend less time worrying about a jerk who would throw a tantrum about anything at the drop of a hat anyway.
I really wonder about Theresa May’s competencies as PM with inane comments and worries such as this. I personally loathe the woman, and cannot fathom why she is still a politician let alone PM of the UK. Who in the UK really gives a monkey’s f if that Orange Garbage person’s bulbous nose is wrongly out of joint if he’s not issued an invite? It’s not a matter of great political importance it’s a family wedding, albeit of Royals!
I really don’t understand our government anymore, so I’m in no place to criticize yours. But, JFC, what impactful repercussions do the MPs (or the PM) actually believe could happen if that ignorant POS feels insulted? I mean, May already pissed him off when she criticized him for that racist retweet, so what’s the worse he could do? This wedding is not a state event. I don’t imagine there is one first-world head-of-state that truly respects him and actually wants to invite him to their country outside of a world leaders’ meeting.
May is allowing herself to be held hostage by baby fists’ tantrums, which are a manifestation of his weak, sordid, pathetic self esteem.
He is an unstable man and there is no point in catering to any of his whims. He is only loyal to Putin and will turn on anyone else. This has been proven again and again. Theresa May just need to do her job and not have the Foreign Office interfere with a non state wedding.
His wedding will probably not have any acting heads of state, right…well, except for the Prime Minister.
If it was William, then I could see Trump getting an invite, but I’m pretty sure the Obamas didn’t even attend his wedding, right?
even for William’s wedding it’s the US Ambassador who came.
the commonwealth countries sent their governor generals, monarchies sent their crown princ(ess)es, and the rest of the world sent ambassadors…
the Obamas can be lumped in with Friends of the Bride and Groom, miscellaneous Celebrities and Notable Peoples.
When Charles and Diana got married I believe the US representatives were the ambassidor and Nancy Reagan.
Yes, echoing, Nancy attended but her husband did not.
The Obamas were not invited to William’s wedding which was a state event. There is no need to invite Dump to this wedding, which is not a state event. The problem is that Thereasa May has not gotten around to doing a state visit with this turd and that is now putting Harry’s wedding as a target. Telling Harry that Obama, a private citizen and friend, cannot be invited because Dump is a goddamn racist baby who hates Obama with every fibre of his soul, is a failure of the part of the UK government to to their job. Harry’s wedding is not political for anyone but this deranged dictator.
If they cave on this then who else are they going to bend for? There are plenty of dictators who are going to follow suit.
I think William’s wedding was actually classified as a “semi-state” event so they could get around snubbing the Obamas. I don’t know if that’s a technical designation or just something made up by the media to explain the Obamas’ non-invite, but I remember that term being used as an explanation as to why neither Obama was there.
For Harry, there is even less official reason for the US president to be invited and I hope they stand up to whomever is pressuring them and have their Drumpf-free wedding.
William didn’t want a state wedding and tore up the official guest list for such an occasion (his words). Officially the wedding became a ‘semi-state’ wedding which was BS given they had all the other accoutrements of a state wedding, but it allowed William to invite lower tier representatives of various countries and minimise the diplomatic aspect of his wedding.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Justin Trudeau and Sophie Gregoire were there. (But, of course, the Queen is their head of state). And William and Kate’s wedding didn’t need to be a state wedding because he was not the heir to the throne (unlike Charles and Diana).
I certainly hope that JT wouldn’t be invited/come. Unlike Obama, Trudeau is an active leader and he is the PM of a Commonwealth country. Inviting him while not inviting the other Commonwealth leaders wouldn’t be acceptable. And Trudeau will be up for re-election soon, so inviting him would be a clear display of partisanship, which members of the BRF cannot do. It would also look bad for his re-election if he spent time and taxpayers’ money to attend the wedding of a royal, while there are more important things to do. And it would be a breach of etiquette to have the Canadian PM there but not the Governor General who is the actual head of the state.
The Governor General is the Queen’s representative in Canada. She is the actual head of state.
they might get around the political aspect by just having Sophie go as a friend of Megan’s.
Invite those you want to share your day with and don’t worry about Trumputin. He’ll find something else trivial to get pissed off at Theresa May at with or without an invitation. Such a fragile ego surely correlates with a very small penis.
Yea I mean it’s so easy to distract him. Just throw lots of printed emails in his face followed by Hillary’s book. I hope that book is thick like him.
Lol! I’m up for trump not being invited, but can you imagine the tweet? “Pr. Harry called and begged for me to come to his wedding (would do anything for it). I said no thanks, I’m busy. Enjoy! #maga!”
Sadly that pretend tweet is pretty dead-on. But, yeah…the tweet storm that would ensue would be *insane* (more than usual, that is), and totally worth it.
I can see the insulting tweets now: “Everyone is saying that red hair shows lack of masculinity. SAD.” or “People are angry that their HEAD OF STATE was left out of a large event. INSULTING!” or “Am far too busy to attend unimportant events.”
Bigly is a bloated child prone to tantrums. He’s an idiot who has managed to strip all dignity from the office. I say let Harry invite the Obamas, and invite no Trumps at all. Even if DT was there he would find something to be insulted about, so just insult him up front.
Throw in an insult about how Meghan is a d-list actress whose only claim to fame was a cable show no one watched and I think you’ve nailed it 100%. Trump is as predictable as he is vile.
They already made it clear the wedding won’t have a state significance – smaller venue, no day-off go the people. They can invite Obamas to their event.
IMHO, no middle-aged married couple cares about attending a wedding of a charity acquaintance. A gift and a phone call will do it.
By now, all the players here are adept at avoiding bad optics publicly.
I think it’s pretty clear that, to the Obamas, Harry is not “a charity acquaintance.” There is obvious warmth between them that comes from real friendship, not passing interactions.
Maybe just Michelle should go, as well as Ivanka or Melania.
What is this about including Ivanka in anything? She is nothing.
Outside of gossip rags this marriage between a mid-level royal and a television actress isn’t significant in any way. Speculation on the invitations of presidents or heads of state is ridiculous. It’s not a “get” in any way. It’s a manufactured tabloid controversy.
Why does Trump have to be invited in the first place? Obama wasn’t invited to William’s wedding, mind you he actually had strategic military action going on during that time (Bin Ladin), and the Queen invited them to the palace at a later date. I believe only the commonwealth countries had a representative at the wedding, our Governor General was in attendance . Now, I do know that protocol and etiquette is extremely difficult for an odious cretin like Trump to comprehend, but an invite to a Royal Wedding is not a given just because you are the current US President!
He forgot (aka doesn’t know) that the American revolution severed ties with the UK, in particular that of the royal family governing the US. But he is a moron and thinks he is king and wants to go to all the parties.
F*ck it, and f*ck him. PLEASE infuriate him. Please god give us the satisfaction of knowing that he knows the true American President got invited to the wedding and not him. Give us 48 hours where he’s so pissed off that all he can do is tweet, as that’s 48 hours that he won’t be firing Bob Mueller or robbing sick children to give to the rich.
As we approach the 1-year mark at the threshold of hell, let me just give a resounding F*CK TRUMP. Always.
Amen. Amen. Amen.
Always and forever: F*CK TRUMP.
✊🏻 Onward, together.
Absolutely, I want that pos to know he is NOT invited and the Obamas are. F*ck him. Let him lose his shit over it, good. It is H & M’s wedding and they should be able to invite who they want (esp given that it’s not a state wedding). The British govt shouldn’t be catering to this ahole, at all.
YES!!!!
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I’ll raise a glass to that toast ANY day, now and forever (and add his f#cktard family to boot!) Cheers! 🥂
F*CK TRUMP. And his white trash family, too.
Shudder. No way I would invite the man to my wedding. He would make it all about him and overshadow the whole event. Talk about stealing someone’s joy… and why should they invite someone they and their families have never even met?
Also the security surrounding the US president is crazy and it would cause issues with the wedding. It is probably why Obama never attended William and Kate’s wedding.
Obama wasn’t invited to W&K’s wedding.
Even better reason for Dump not to be invited to Harry’s wedding.
He HAS crashed weddings held at his golf resorts! And accosted the brides for kisses *shudder*. Too horrible to imagine that anus mouth coming at you!!
I feel the need to point out that this story comes from The Sun. Not that they want to stir anything up, or have anything against Obama.
The Sun seems to be the mouthpiece of the government nowadays. Theresa May has done one on one interviews with them vs when even the BBC and other news stations couldn’t get her to answer any kind of questions.
I would be very surprised if they DIDNT invite the Obamas. Harry was a guest at their first major event for their foundation. Obama was a guest on Harry’s podcast. They regularly show up to support the causes closest to each other. Meghan does not like trump at all and neither does harry (and what seems like a large chunk of the BRF). I doubt harry is going to give a flying F what May thinks.
And May if you’re THIS worried about trump maybe grow a pair. He’s already slighted you online so I’m not sure why you’re going to bat for him (well I know why).
And, IIRC, hasn’t the trip Trump is suppose to take to the UK been downgraded from a state visit to a working visit? To me this is a nothing burger and they can invite Obama and not worry about it. Also agree that the protection detail for Trump to be there would cause problems.
Look, it’s MY wedding!
I’m inviting RuPaul, Norman Reedus, Eminem, k d lang and Thom Yorke.
Mr and Mrs Obama plus the kids are invited too, along with Mr Mueller, Adam Schiff and Sally Yates.
It’s my wedding and I will invite who I want. The rest can sod off.
I hope they invite the Obamas, their daughters, Michelle’s mom, he’ll, even Obama’s brother in Kenya before they invite the trumps. Trumps head would explode.
and Chelsea Clinton…someone up thread suggested Chelsea and I haven’t stopped giggling since!
And Rosie O’Donnell, too.
I actually think that’s what will happen: Trump will make sure to twit that he WAS invited but due to the security around him decided to decline to let everyone enjoy the wedding. He will definitely let others know he was very much invited.
Harry said this morning he didn’t know if the Obamas were coming. I took that to mean they will be invited. He and Meghan are under no obligation to invite any Trump to their wedding. This isn’t a state affair. And as far as I know the British Parliament decided to not invite 45 to the U.K. for a visit due to his hateful, gross year in office.
He said they hadn’t come up with a guest list yet. He said it was a surprise…
I am so so sick of this man baby.
There’s Michelle, demurely crossing her ankles in BRF protocol. Then there’s Harry, showing off his package with legs spread wide, pants snug. Maybe he really did have a crush on Michelle. Who doesn’t?
Yessssssssssss. I also saw Harry’s manspread and I was ohmygaaaaawd, Harry! Don’t you know better? LOL. #soroyal
Forgive my double entendre, but Harry’s looking a little cocky in that picture.
Trump wants adoring crowds wherever he goes, and there is no guarantee he will get that if he comes to the UK for any reason. I think there are planned protests for the working visit in February. Imagine the outcry if the Orange Menace tries to get an invite. Wedding Crasher will the kindest sobriquet.
Invite the Obamas, and Tiffany Trump. Can you imagine his orangeness’ tweets? “Losers and C-listers on the invite list? SAD!” #poortiffany
We’ll probably hold another referendum about it. We haven’t voted on anything for a while.
I would love to see Prince Harry invite the Obamas to his wedding and give Donald Trump the snub.
5 dollar says it was Michelle who introduced them. She and PH just have that complicit look.
hmmm, interesting theory!
I just cannot believe that Michelle Obama introduced Meghan to Harry.
It was one of two other women who have been named, and I believe that the Marcus guy was also somewhere in the mix of making it all happen.
This much fuss over a wedding between a D-list actress and the 6th person in line for the throne.
May needs to put her big girl panties on host little twitter fingers in Jan or Feb get it out the way instead of trying to hold someone else’s wedding hostage.
William didn’t want the Obamas at his wedding and made the security is too much excuse to why they weren’t invited. I don’t remember this much worry over Barry’s feelings over not getting invited. Little fingers will tweet through oh well.
The parliament doesn’t want Trump to come here, and given his tweets and rants, what he does is classified as hate speech. But the Tories do want to sell off the NHS (re: the TIPP plus steriods) and supposedly need to keep him sweet whilst selling our country’s silverware to the highest bidder. I’d hope that Prince Harry tells May to go whistle though.
Barry? Showing your allegiance to your Orange King?
His name is Barack Hussein Obama II. Next!
Reading comprehension isn’t your strongest skill
Calling him Barry is a racist dog whistle.
Actually, if you do a little research, Michelle (and others) called him Barry before he was elected President. Nothing racist, just a nickname, like Bobby for Robert, or Missy for Melissa.
I follow several royal families and hope couple will follow what others have done for an official state wedding. That is invite government’s head of state. If he or she cannot attend, then someone is sent to represent the US government. My guess is that First Lady Trump goes.
William didn’t have a state wedding, no reason why Harry would have one. This is more on the scale of Joachim and Alexandra’s (Or Joachim and Marie’s) weddings, Friso and Mabel’s, Felix and Claire’s. Not the big event of the heir’s wedding, but a smaller more private family event. No need for foreign government representation at this one.
My comments were about what should happen at a state wedding. I know that US Ambassador to UK attended William’s wedding and could see current one being invited also.
It remains that this is not an official state wedding, so your guess at Melania Trump doesn’t make sense. If any representation from a foreign government is invited to the smaller private wedding of the 6th in line, it isn’t going to be Melania Trump.
At the end of the Today programme on the radio this morning, Harry said they hadn’t made up the guest list yet “I don’t know about that, we haven’t even put the guest list together yet. Who knows if he’s going to be invited or not, wouldn’t want to ruin that surprise”
Please forgive my jumbled thoughts. This will be a stream of consciousness fueled by my anger.
1st- How weak is the May government to even float this idea.
2nd- President Obama was not invited to W&K’s wedding (a state event) this cannot be overstated.
3rd- If Harry decides to acquiesce to this ridiculous request- Trump will spend zero time in touting the loser credentials of the British government. Someone needs to explain to May that Trump is for Trump.
4th- I have read on this site and others that Harry is sooo insignificant and that he couldn’t be further from the thrown. So why is this even a question. Unless Harry is … Ooh never mind.
5th- I will be really disappointed if Harry is bullied into not inviting the Obamas (private citizens) to his wedding. Trump is after all a horrible bully.
And finally Ivanka was a supporter of the Clintons (for years) and really good friends with Chelsea Clinton. All of this obviously before the “The Great Scam” was perpetrated. This is not an excuse just context for MM’s connection.
I am guessing that the Obamas, even if invited as friends of the couple, will not show up as a couple. I am also guessing that no Trump from top to bottom will be invited. The logistics and security would overwhelm everything.
It’s possible MIchelle Obama will attend if she can. And that would be cool.
This wedding should not be turned into a big F*ck You to Trump, and that is what would happen if the former president were there. It’s unfair to the participants, their families and their guests. The Obamas have always been sensitive to that sort of thing, and I am sure they understand. It’s essentially a private wedding of a public person, not a political mandate.
It would be unfair to forbid H&M from inviting whomever they want to their wedding.
Harry appears to have close working relationships with both Michelle and Barack Obama. They have worked on projects together for several years. Harry was invited to the first conference for their fledgling organization. I can see these four doing work together for years, and I’d love to see MObama on the board of Sentebale. No good reason why H&M should be forced to omit these friends from their wedding.
I said nothing about “forbidding” or anyone being “forced to omit friends.” Who knows who will be invited? No one here does, and no one here has any idea what Harry is being counseled and/or advised about vis a vis his guest list. No one here knows who among the people both Harry and Meghan have worked with actually fall into the category of “close friends” and will be invited to the wedding.
I think the Obamas are both very careful and very savvy politically and personally. *If* they receive an invitation I think it will be doubtful both would attend. They would have heavy security details and it’s very intrusive. They know the political and social landscape far better than internet commenters do.
You stated “It’s unfair to the participants, their families and their guests”if the Obamas were invited. I think it would be unfair of the engaged couple if they weren’t allowed to invite whomever they want to their wedding. If their other wedding guests cannot handle it, that is their problem. The other 500-800 people at the wedding aren’t going to be involved front-and-center with the politics of the thing. The security will be extremely tight regardless, they’ll all know that and prepare accordingly.
If the Obamas are attending and no Trumps are invited, the American media will make this a circus with that at center ring. And if Trump tweets about it?? LORD!!! That is all we will hear about for weeks!! It could be a real media mess.
Of course M&H should be able to invite their friends. Of course, the Obamas should be able to attend.But knowing how savvy they are about the media and Trump’s narcissistic dementia-fueled rages, I doubt both would come.
If nothing else, I hope the Obamas live their lives the way they want to, including attending this wedding if they are invited. And that they do not waste anytime worrying about Emperor Baby Fists not liking it.
It would be unfair to the guests and family and the bride and groom themselves if the wedding was disrupted by the ex-President and his security detail, yes. But I am not pontificating who should be invited or not – I am simply not that invested in it. They will invite who they want, regardless.
There have been many stories of famous people foregoing events such as weddings because their presence would cause a disruption and take away from the event itself. It happens all the time. The Obamas have good manners and are savvy, I am sure they make sound decisions on which events to attend. If they are invited it’s up to them whether to attend. Not me. Not you. Not internet commenters who want to “really give it to Trump.” I personally think a Barack Obama appearance is unlikely, but we shall see.
Barack and Michelle weren’t invited to Kate and William’s wedding in 2011 (though a lot of other heads of state were). I forget the reason why, maybe security reasons but I do remember they both met Kate and William about a month later at Buckingham Palace for an official State visit so that may have been why since they were going to England so close to the wedding date. So if the Obamas do get invited to Harry and Meghan’s wedding, they can always throw the “we didn’t invite the current sitting US president in 2011 so hush Trump.”
He’ll still throw a fit but everyone will be amused he is throwing a tantrum about it. At this point, anything can set Trump off so I’m not sure why anyone would bother tiptoeing around him for the sake of a royal wedding. He isn’t friends with Harry or Meghan and he won’t be invited. Who cares if Trump gets angry. He is impossible to work with in general, this won’t make things better or worse.
Oh dear God, I want Trump’s head to explode. Can you imagine those petty, unhinged tweets???
Even if the Obamas declined, the slight and jealousy would be palpable and popcorn worthy 🙂
Barack Obama is now a private citizen (mostly) and has been very close to both William and Harry. They even had a “family dinner” all together at William and Kate’s private residence a couple of years ago (no government reps, no other royals, just them as friends).
Even when William and Kate married in a massive wedding at the Abbey, the American President, Barack Obama, was not invited. So go fuck yourself Orange Nazi, nobody wants you anywhere, FOOL.
What a load of nonsense. They’ll invite their friends & family, just as Will & Kate did. Half of bucklebury’s shopkeepers came, as did the Beckhams. Nothing diplomatic about that wedding, nothing diplomatic about this one.
I listened to Harry’s Obama interview, as well as one he did with a tech CEO and one with his father on climate change. He calls Chuck “Pa”. I did not know that; it’s sweet. He clearly has a close relationship with his Pa, and that, for some reason, made me happy. The interview with Obama was a nice opportunity for BO to share his feelings on this latest transition (out of the presidency) and to highlight the issues (youth empowerment) that the two share.
Theresa May is an idiot to let this rumor/sentiment/whatever circulate about the wedding invite; it makes her look weak and distracted from her job. I think that Michelle might show up at the church, and Barry (like Meghan at Pippa’s do) can sneak into the party and do some Dad Dancing.
Theresa May is an idiot, no questions there. She’s already weak and the only reason why she’s the PM is because the leavers/hard line Brexiteers can’t find anyone who’s willing or able to be the face of Brexit.
I hope the Obamas rock up. I mean, what can the government do? The wedding is being paid for by the Royals. The government could probably threaten to withdraw police protection services, and charge them for it? That wouldn’t go down well.
The Trumps, Obama’s or Trudeaus will not be invited. That would all be too political for the BRF to invite some so they will invite none of them.
+1
The safest with Brexit other political climate. But please Do invite other Tiara wearing Houses.
The only legitimate reason for even considering inviting Drumpf is the fact that the bride is American, it’s natural that there would be significant representation from the country of her birth. Unfortunately for us and Meghan, right now there is a lack of non-loathesome options to fill that official representative role.
But she is marrying him as a private citizen and not as a representative for her country. Which will soon be the UK anyway once she changes citizenship.
I hope they do invite the Obamas. And then the orange mutant hands baby can throw a fit on Twitter and no one will care. The Obamas STILL have a higher approval rating than he does!
Those kids should be able to invite whomever they friggin’ WANT TO. If they want to extend an invitation to the Obamas and not the Trumps, good for them. This isn’t a state event. Besides, the Evil Orange would probably just lie and say he got an invite anyways and that he decided to turn it down.
Oh for goodness sake! If Harry wants the Obama’s there, May should grow a pair and tell Trump to go jump off a freaking cliff. May is so pathetic.
And this just goes to show that this wedding is much more significant than many Cambridge fans and anti-Meghan/Harry want to admit…
I don’t think it has anything to with the level of significance, a member of the royal family should just avoid any appearance of taking a political stand.
I’m a big believer in facts. Their wedding, But who is paying for it exactly? If prince harry is paying for it with money that’s his (I guess inherited from the Diana side?) ….then his choice who is invited and not invited I say. But…..
If the British monarchy is paying for it, well then……sorry but some business rules (whatever they might be) really should get the consideration they deserve.
The Royal Family is paying for PH’s wedding. The taxpayer is responsible for security, iirc.
The Queen and Prince Charles are paying for the wedding; it’s a private affair. They have complete control over the guest list; just because it’s televised doesn’t mean it isn’t a private affair.
The BRF are Ambassadors for the people of GB (CW )who will be footing the bill of approx £20m.
The Henrys.technically third in Line ( and potential King) could be an important step asset for the US and GB relations. Princess Henry will need to learn t he finer points as a BRF. Like it or not, Pres Trump is the current Pres. With former Pres Protocols, the Obamas could be included with the WH reps.
“The Henrys technically third in line” ?????
RoyalSparkle, the sitting US president was not invited to W&K’s wedding. No need to invite the Trumps to this wedding, which is much further down the line. The Obamas would be invited as personal friends, not as US representatives.
Harry and Meghan will be important working royals, but Harry is soon to be 6th in line, not third.
shouldn’t Trump’s comments about Princess Diana automatically be a reason not to invite him?
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/donald-trump-brands-princess-diana-11236890
Yuck!!!…..he really is terrible.
They should invite the Obama’s just because it will piss off the orange one!!
I didn’t get my Christmas wish for indictments and impeachments. Can I ask for those things in my Easter basket? That way, we won’t have to worry about any Drumpf-adjacent people being invited, because they’ll all be in prison.
Hear, hear, Nota! But, can we move it up to St. Patrick’s Day? Is it appropriate to make Wish Lists for that holiday?
I just came here to admit my obsession with MM and PH. I seriously read every single post and every single comment. I literally watched the curtsy video yesterday because I was so confused and interested. It is absolutely absurd.
Now, we are throwing in gossip about a potential MM, PH, BO, & MO interaction? I may faint.
“If the PM lays down the law, Harry will just have to suck it up.”
Well that’s a load of bullshit, surely? The UK’s PM has no power to dictate who should be invited to a non-state, private wedding. Just because the American president is a 70 year old toddler who chucks a tantrum at every imagined slight doesn’t mean that Harry will be obligated to invite this orange dickhead to his wedding.
Plus, the thought of Theresa May – who cannot control Boris Johnson or the rest of her own party – “laying down the law” to ANYONE is laughable. Just because she toadies to Trump and holds his hand (literally) doesn’t mean everyone else has to.
Ha! Well put. You do you, Harry and Meghan.
But that’s not how diplomacy works, the royals are obligated through their position to cause the least amount of ruccus and solve such issues constructively without offending anyone. They should not be posturing and underlining anything, no matter how tempted they feel. And who wants their wedding overshadowed by D. Trump anyway, isn’t it better to take the high road and make sure that does not happen?
If they are being married at St George’s Chapel at Windsor Castle, there won’t be much space for people. It is not a large area, chapel being the clue here.
St George’s chapel seats 800 people.
It’s been…. what? Ten years since Harry dressed like a Nazi for a costume party? Let’s not act like he is too superior to invite Trump.
That is assuming they even make it to the altar.