I was surprised by how little new information there was in Stormy Daniels’ 60 Minutes interview. We already heard much of the story from tabloids and from serious outlets like the Wall Street Journal and New York Times. I’ve only been halfway paying attention to the Stormy story and I was surprised by how much I already knew. Stormy had sex with Donald Trump – I’m not saying “allegedly” about any of this because I believe her – after a charity golf tournament at one of the Trump-owned properties in 2006. The sex was transactional, because she says of course she was not attracted to him in the least, and she was just doing it because he said he could get her on Celebrity Apprentice. He also compared her to Ivanka because that is the highest compliment he gives to women he’s trying to bang.
“He was like, ‘wow, you are special. You remind me of my daughter.’” –Stormy Daniels says of her conversation with Mr. Trump the night they met. pic.twitter.com/Mj52gSoDbH
— 60 Minutes (@60Minutes) March 25, 2018
They met months later at his request in LA. He made her sit and watch a Shark Week special for several hours and then he tried to put the moves on her again. She asked him about Celebrity Apprentice and he still didn’t have an answer so she says she left. At no point did he tell her that she shouldn’t tell anyone about their relationship or anything like that. She later tried to sell her story to In Touch Weekly, but when ITW contacted Trump’s lawyer for a comment, Michael Cohen threatened In Touch with a massive lawsuit. Then this happened to Stormy:
Not long after the magazine story was killed, Stormy Daniels says she was threatened by a man who approached her in Las Vegas. “A guy walked up on me and said to me, ‘leave Trump alone. Forget the story.’” pic.twitter.com/JMskKQiYCi
— 60 Minutes (@60Minutes) March 25, 2018
Throughout the election, Stormy got lots of offers to tell her story and then Trump’s lawyer contacted her and offered her a lump sum payment – hush money – with a NDA. She took it because she didn’t want the drama.
When Donald Trump won the Republican nomination, Daniels says she started getting calls again with offers to tell her story. And she got one offer not to tell her story. Mr. Trump’s attorney Michael Cohen agreed to pay $130K in exchange for signing a non-disclosure agreement. pic.twitter.com/HB98pik8bj
— 60 Minutes (@60Minutes) March 25, 2018
Then all hell broke loose, the Wall Street Journal did those reports on where the money came from and whether the NDA was really binding, and now Stormy’s lawyer is suing Trump. Here’s Stormy’s lawyer – who I would, btw – talking about how Trump and his lawyer are thugs.
Attorney Michael Avenatti disputes the notion that Michael Cohen was working in a purely personal capacity when he arranged the hush money for Stormy Daniels. pic.twitter.com/91T0ofMnjt
— 60 Minutes (@60Minutes) March 25, 2018
You can read the full transcript of the 60 Minutes interview here. At the very beginning of the interview, she does confirm that she spanked him with the Time Magazine on which he appeared, but she says it was done in a joking manner, like it was the ice-breaker and he treated her differently after that. Also: Melania and Donald Trump watched Stormy’s interview separately. He flew back to Washington yesterday and Melania stayed behind at Mar-a-Lago, where she’ll be all week with Barron because of Barron’s Spring Break.
Photos courtesy of WENN and 60 Minutes.
There is something about his relationship with Ivanka, the pics where she is sitting on his lap, his constant comparaison with his mistresses, etc. that is so unsettling, so dark I can’t even type what i’m thinking about. I don’t want to go there, yet it’s hard to not go there with all the evidence we had. I hope I’m wrong.
Yeah, my mind flits there but i can’t stay there either. You know what, I just don’t want to know. I agree something is very off though.
Just gonna leave this here
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What father says, “If she wasn’t my daughter, I’d date her” n a TV Talk Show??? *shudder* Sick, sick, sick!!!
disturbing
Jeez, it’s like he’s grooming her for something …
Personally, I don’t think there is anything “off” in their relationship, though he is sending signals that make it seem that way.
Trump, in my view, is a man obsessed with his own social power & influence & he defines that in very base terms: money, sex, desirability & positive attention.
I think he sees Ivanka’s attractiveness and the inevitable social currency it generates (realist perspective here, sorry) as a twisted badge of honor for his ego. That’s all. He likes to draw attention to it (by making inappropriate comments) because it makes him feel powerful/like a winner by association. Something in his character thinks that way and needs that. It’s weird.
@whispers
That is YOUR perspective, but it isn’t necessarily realist. He sexualizes his daughter, and that is beyond anything healthy or pragmatic. It is very abnormal since he has been doing it since she was an adolescent.
My father brags about my sisters and me even our looks but in a proud fatherly way. Not on body parts and definitely without any kind of unsavory undertones. No disturbing photos or wife replacement.
It isn’t normal no matter how you try to spin it.
whispersjane, Trump pawed Ivanka on the stage of the Republican convention, on national tv. She was adept at deflecting his grubby hands–it appeared as if it wasn’t the first time that has happened.
I’ve heard other father’s talk about their daughters and how “attractive” they are. It’s unsettling.
I agree that it’s an ego thing for these Dad’s to think other men think their daughter is hot. Goes to the truth that most men see women as objects, even their own daughters and wives.
@magnoliarose, I don’t think anyone is trying to spin it as normal here. Whatever @whispersjane said holds up. Trump sees everything as the sum of its parts. His children are just another egotistical extension of himself, and he sees himself as the center of his world. Yes, he sexualizes his daughter, but at the heart of that is the objectification of her and her looks / intelligence etc. He doesn’t see her as a person, just as a bunch of character traits that he thinks reflects well on him because she’s his child.
I don’t think Trump really knows how to love anyone or anything in an unconditional way. Not even himself. Everything is just a material object to him in a game to get ahead.
Not POTUS, but PEDOTUS! And INCESTOUS!
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Yes, extremely disturbing Trump always compares women to his daughter. At the same time I feel bad for Tiffany for never being mentioned.
The “scapegoat” child of a person with a narcissistic personality disorder (which is what’s happening here) often has an easier life than the “golden child”.
Once you realize there’s nothing to be gained from a relationship with a toxic person who only keeps you around to hurt you, you can free yourself from their influence and move on to a healthy life. Ivanka, on the other hand, will probably forever jump through her father’s hoops to win his approval because the stroke to her ego and rewards for staying close to him are just too tempting to walk away. It’s goes without saying she doesn’t *need* him yet she sticks around and continues to support him and lie through her teeth to protect his reputation because being daddy’s girl who gets showered with “love” is all she knows. She lives to win his praise.
Lucky Tiffany. Ivanka is the unlucky one. Her father is seriously sick.
i don’t know. If i was tiffany i would never want to be mentioned in the way ivanka gets mentioned.
Tiffany is the lucky one. She never gets mentioned in this sick way.
I doubt Tiffany wants to spend a lot of time with a father that wanted her mother to have an abortion. She is probably just spending the minimum amount of time with her father to stay in the will.
Yeah, the statement about Ivanka was totally creepy. In the story with the Playboy Bunny there is a picture of Melania, Trump, Ivanka, someone else and the Playboy Bunny (can’t remember her name and am too lazy to look it up). In the picture Trump looks like he has his arm around Ivanka and there is space between him and Melania. It was a bit creepy also.
There are several like that and it is very very disturbing.
I would honestly not be shocked if he molested her (or worse) as a child. There’s something undeniably creepy about his interactions with her.
it is totally disturbing but i honestly think he is just a developmentally stunted sociopath who doesn’t have normal emotions and the ones he has he can’t express normally. he knows he likes his daughter and that she is empiracally attractive. so he uses it as a compliment to other women b/c he thinks so simplistically and is so emotionally vacant he can’t give a compliment. he thinks “ivanka is pretty. women will think it’s nice to be compared to someone pretty” he has no empathy and no sympathy as evidenced by his extremely odd way of “comforting” victims of a tradgedy (PR and Texas for example). like he can’t even say “i’m sorry for your loss” b/c his mind doesn’t work and now that he’s obviously in mental decline – he can no longer fake human emotion.
SPOT ON – well done!
I agree that is a perfect assessment of him. He’s an empty shell, always has been.
I think it’s more than that. It’s not just an innocent emotionally stunted father trying to be nice to women by comparing them to his daughter. He openly admitted he’d be dating her if she wasn’t his daughter. He agreed with Howard Stern calling his daughter a piece of a$$.
He doesn’t look at his daughter and think she’s nice/cute/whatever. I genuinely believe he sees her as a sex object and it’s clear he can’t even behave himself towards her around cameras. There are some gifs out there where he’s pitting his hands on her hips and she, smiling, puts her hand between them to keep him away. It’s like a reflex for her. She knows he’ll use every opportunity to put his hands on her and lacks awareness to stop himself even in front of a crowd of people and cameras. I highly, highly doubt he hasn’t done more behind closed doors.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/donald-trump-ivanka-trump-creepiest-most-unsettling-comments-a-roundup-a7353876.html?amp
He’s obsessed with her. He finds her more than “empirically attractive”. Lack of boundaries, amorality, and lust go with the territory for deviants like him.
I think he does have normal human emotions, it’s just that they all turn inward and are all about him and apply only to him. Narcissists have tons of empathy, but only for themselves. That’s how they can work themselves up into a mania of vindictiveness and anger; they are the eternal and perpetual victims, life is cruel and unfair to them and therefore they need to take every opportunity to “even the score” by one-upping everyone else all the time. If they are not actively “winning” (which exists only as a weird construct in their mind), then they are “losing” and they will burn everything to the ground to “correct” that.
Normal people’s emotions turn both outward and inward. We can feel sadness for ourselves and for others. Mr. Two Scoops is never sad for other people because he doesn’t feel emotions for others, only for himself. It has probably never even occurred to him that other people have real feelings, or if it has, that their emotions are equal to his in strength and merit. Narcissists forever believe that they are a shining beacon of truth and that others are unfeeling and/or unworthy. That’s why he can barely even say the acceptable, scripted words in response to tragedy. Why should he? Other people don’t have feelings, and they are as unimportant as so many ants anyway.
yes, spot on.
“JUST a developmentally stunted sociopath”
Oh, is that all? Lol!
He’s a psychopath. Incest would be normal for him.
THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It’s extremely creepy and I find myself returning to that line of thinking a lot.
When you think about the mind of a narcissist, his creepy way of relating to daughter ivanka fits perfectly. He probably feels like she is the perfect replication of himself, he sees himself in her (intelligent [eh hem, cough cough], good-looking [glurp], powerful [*blurg*], and a true gift to humanity [bah!!!]) and thus has a natural affinity for her. His excessive interest in her and comparing her to every other woman is actually just his own excessive interest in himself.
lest we forget that he IS THE DEFINITION of narcissistic personality disorder:
“The hallmarks of Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) are grandiosity, a lack of empathy for other people, and a need for admiration. People with this condition are frequently described as arrogant, self-centered, manipulative, and demanding. They may also concentrate on grandiose fantasies (e.g. their own success, beauty, brilliance) and may be convinced that they deserve special treatment.”
and yet 1/2 of america put him in office. ?!?!?!?! and i bet they will do it again in 2020. 😐
*White America, to be specific. 56 percent of WW in particular, more of WM, voted for the cheeto. 96 percent of Black Women voted for Hillary. Enough said.
Something to the effect of he’d be dating her if she weren’t his daughter. Always, and please note this is all after her facial/ breast surgical changes, he constantly refers to her appealing ( to him) looks and figure.
He is so vile.
Yes to all of the above, but also adding: Trump has the id of a toddler. His staff constantly reminds us he will do the opposite of what he is told. He doesn’t care about the meaning of the word “NO”, in fact, he relishes the opportunity to do what folks tell him not to.
Society be damned, utmost loyalty is the most desirable trait, rich people are entitled to whatever they want, Ivanka is a desirable commodity to the elite east coast sex rings, and $money$ > law.
So, “Trump, you can’t touch your daughter”. You think he’d act any other way?
NSSB–yes, her face and body are quite different from what she was born with. If she still had her original face, nose, teeth, breasts and hair color, I wonder what he would say.
Malignant narcissist is malignant.
I just want to throw this out there so it’s out on the interwebs…. But what if the Russians either 1-have proof he molested his daughter or 2-video of him with Ivanka look alikes???
The theory has been in the twitterverse for months; that’s my husband’s personal guess as to what the kompromat likely is.
The woman who says Trump raped her when she was 13 (at one of those parties a convicted sleazeball organized, she was told it would help her modeling career to go) also reports that Trump told her he had a daughter her age. So it’s a pattern with him,
as is physical threats. That woman says that he said he would harm her and her family if she ever talked about it. She was all set
to go to court more recently when she realized he was running for President but backed out due to death threats. Trump plays with the mob, here and elsewhere. It’s easy for him to keep his own hands clean.
I think that rape story is very likely true (there is also a witness who was in the room) and Trump was using her as a surrogate for Ivanka. He has been way too creepy with Ivanka too often, starting when she was hitting puberty. Probably fear of Ivana kept him in check (or Czech…). He doesn’t bond normally with wives or children, he just looks at what they can do for him. He knows how to fake it for a while, as is typical of extreme narcissists. Stormy seems to be one woman who was not fooled by his narcissistic charm. She shut him down once it was apparent that he was puffing smoke about the Celebrity Apprentice gig. Trump probably hates her for that.
I can’t believe that… this is just … like could any other president have gotten away with this!? Not at all. Obama couldn’t even put dijon on his hamburger without Fox news jumping all over it for the last 8 years and Donald Trump gets to sleep with a porn star!? Ican’t. Its just absurd. I want these women to keep coming out of the woodwork.
We’re already up to one taped admission to being a pussy-grabbing sexual predator, two porn stars, creeping on a dressing room full of half-naked underage pageant contestants, one whatever that Courtney Cox-looking lady was, one assaulted and raped ex-wife, an open desire to date his daughter and nineteen(?) sexual assault victims….
I get the feeling that the US will run out of women long before the Talibangelical hypocrites cut loose their last, desperate attempt at turning the country into Gilead.
And then you read online how “fake” rape accusations ruin men’s lives. Poor Don.
Don’t forget to mention the 13-year-old accuser. What a Christian sent by God that Trump is, huh?
There are reportedly 6 other women who signed NDAs but they want to speak now. How many more are there?
republican politicians can get away with things democratic politicians never could simply because there’s no left wing answer to fox news. there’s nothing that vile and wide spread coming from democrats, who typically take the high road. you can see it as a good thing or a bad thing. i waiver, especially now. maybe we need to play dirty.
also, racism. fox news flew off the handle at obama mentioning arugula too. just racism.
We are talking about a story from 12 years ago. Trump wasn’t president, so nobody followed him around.
cidykitty- I never understood the Dijon mustard thing. I saw the video and Obama asked if they had Dijon or any other spicy mustard. They sell Dijon mustard in my neighborhood grocery store. I prefer yellow mustard myself, but obviously a lot of Americans like Dijon and other spicy mustards or it wouldn’t be sold all over the place in garden-variety Indiana grocery stores in non-rich neighborhoods.
And what was that thing about Obama wearing a tan suit all about? Men wear tan suits. It’s not a radical act. And Michelle’s sleeveless dress?!?! My mother wore sleeveless shirts and dresses! Not a radical bone in her body! Well, she did wear jeans to clean house, which her mother-in-law thought was radical and disturbing back in the 1950s. But that was about her only rebellious act.
I’m not sure the interview moved the needle in either direction..I would’ve asked what the threatening guy looked like at the very least.
I think her lawyer did a great job. My guess is they are probably getting a police artist to sketch a mug shot of the thug……..and then the investigators will be looking at photos of Trump employees.
Her lawyer is sharp AF. I would NOT want to be going against him or Stormy, for that matter.
Wapo had a really excellent article on him yesterday. Well worth the reading.
Avenatti did say they were working on IDing that person.
100% agree. Nothing Stormy said here is particularly surprising.
I was disappointed by what a nothing burger the interview was. We’d heard it all before.
I thought the same thing too until I really thought about how I would feel being threatened alone with my baby by a man in a parking lot. He threatened her life!
Beyond that, the campaign finance laws are a huge issue. If an investigation begins it will mean looking into the others.
It is the legal part and establishing further what a low life he is.
Also I continue to find it fascinating that Trump has continued to stay silent on Stormy. Like no tweets Sunday and no tweets yet this morning about her. From the petty narcissistic in chief who would respond to a mouse crosssing his path. He has no self control usually. Until last week, Muller and Stormy are the only two names he kept out of his tweets—-2 people he is scared of.
Stormy clearly has receipts or Trump and his minions would be calling her a liar all over the twittersphere.
The campaign finance stuff may not be a big deal. If the FEC pursues it, Cohen would likely be fined. And since it is a federal crime, Trump can pardon him.
I think the real jeopardy for Cohen is getting disbarred for acting (as he claims) on his client’s behalf without his client’s knowledge.
From a PR standpoint it was definitely dull, other than you heard her story in her words, and it seemed believable to me. I kind of got her thinking on why she did what she did. From a legal standpoint, I feel like it was more effective. It was just one shot, and since he is suing her for 20 million dollars you kind of have to hold back stuff in order to have something to counter act that.
If she comments on specifics about the guy who threatened her then those details become fodder for any future deposition or cross examination. Stormy listened to her lawyer, unlike orange anus.
Exactly. I was very surprised AC didn’t ask for a description after the “I’d recognize him now” statement.
They could have easily discussed that prior to recording.
@crazycatlady they likely have private investigators working on that and do need need or want the public’s help at this time. asking for tips from the public is usually the last step in trying to find someone like this since you get swamped with so much info you waste time chasing down bogus leads.
If Melania is upset about her husband playing around I tend to think she is more threatened by the Playboy playmate Karen McDougal than Stormi. There seemed to be more of a emotional attachment and a relationship( dinners, travel, etc). Also Karen also looks a bit like Melania in some ways, so I could see her being threatened.
Is anyone grossed out by 45’s constant commenting how women he is involved with remind him of Ivanka? Gross
I believe Melania should be worried that her husband would have unprotected sex with a porn Star the first time he met her. As I wife that would be just unforgiveable, a line not to cross. I know Melania knew her husband was a woman chaser because she met him when he went to a party with another woman and asked for phone #, but a porn ⭐️. But, she always make excuses for his behavior, eg “locker room talk”. However, I don’t feel sorry for her, she made her goldbed now she can sleep conformable in it.
Well at least Porn stars are tested for STD’s routinely by law, if positive they lose their jobs. I think you mean prostitutes. The average woman has a higher chance of carrying an STD unknowingly since they assume they and their partners are clean. IMO, Melania should be more worried about him having unprotected sex with McDoughal the playmate and God knows who else.
This asks the question is he shooting blanks or are there some trump babies all over the world… unprotected sex seems the norm for him. So yeah, not a germaphobe, he just doesn’t like shaking people’s hands.
ORIGINAL TC, I learn something new every day, thank you.
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!! Adult film stars, regarding their health…are HIGHLY REGULATED!!! So are escorts who work at licensed places in Nevada…I saw the testing they have to go through…EVERY SIX WEEKS when I watched a documentary on the industry…it’s NO JOKE!
More likely the porn stars would catch something from Trump.
I tend to believe that Melania hasn’t shared a bedroom with Dump for years and so she doesn’t care. Stormy mentioned they had separate bedrooms and that was back in 2006. Probably once Barron was born she didn’t need to bother anymore. Outside of public humiliation she doesn’t care who he is with.
She’d only be threatened in so much as being worried that her husband is shopping for her replacement. I doubt she really cares much what he does as long as he largely leaves her alone. I believe the reports that she’s miserable as the First Lady; all she wanted was a rich husband and a life of leisure. She’s got her son, and by many accounts does not spend much time with her husband at all. For all we know she may even be happy that he’s out bothering other women and not her.
I think she’d be happy to be replaced at this point. He’d destroy her if she decided to walk, but if he himself discarded her for a newer model it’d spare his ego and he might actually let her go quietly.
Melania has known about this relationship for years.
I’d wager she is pleased to be relieved of the duty, lol.
I watched the whole segment and my main takeaway was that Michael Cohen is in a lot of legal trouble. He isn’t getting out of this.
I don’t really know what this is going to do that monster we installed in the WH. I don’t think anything frankly. Yeah, I know, if was Obama…but it’s not.
Watch whiteness work.
It could open Trump up for a charge on violation of campaign finance laws. But you are right, his supporters, especially the Christian wing, will be unmoved by this. Sexual sin is the fault of the woman for exploiting the God given inherent weakness of the man…you know like that barely disguised metaphor about Eve causing Adams fall by tempting him with the apple.
They knew all this about him and voted for him anyway. But they can’t bake a cake for a gay couple because that’s condoning sin.
Even Adam blamed it on Eve. Not because of some inherent weakness on his part but because he was an irresponsible coward. Plus ca change….
I can’t see how Cohen gets out of being disbarred.
Yes that was my takeaway. My husband is an attorney and he said what attorney pays for his client. What a joke!
And how was he repaid? I doubt very much if he parted with his own $130K as a gift to Trump.
Jaded-
Somewhere ( I can’t search right now ) there is documentation of Cohen complaining that tRump stiffed him of the repayment.
Imagine that.
I am a lawyer too and would never pay for a client. It also crosses many ethical lines as well and I am sure someone has reported him to his state bar association. You are compromised if you are paying off people directly for your client.
@ Darla,
“Whiteness?”
Well said!!!!!!
I get it. She wanted to keep this private but when it came out, she might as well speak for herself. Especially when people are muddying the story with “gold digger” and Me Too. I can understand the desire to set the record straight when you have a kid who is watching this play out on TV.
However, I actually don’t care at all about the details of the affair. Trump banged someone who isn’t his wife – my world view is not rocked in the slightest. The only interesting thing here is the coverup and what that says about Trump’s team and other possible scenarios.
She wants to control the narrative and let us know she’s not a “gold digger.” She’s still a porn star who had transactional sex with a public figure who could help her career. What message is SHE sending to her daughter?
Stormy and McDougal won’t stand for bullying, which is fine, but come on, behave yourself to start with. They all deserve each other, including the lawyers.
I didn’t get the opinion that not being known as a gold digger was her main objective. I kind of thought she is fine with people realizing she uses sex as a currency of some sort. She had sex with him because she wanted him to help her career, even though she kind of knew he wouldn’t. She didn’t want the sex acknowledged, maybe because that scenario seemed to be line she didn’t want people to know about. Then the story became public, and she was the Wh)*() who slept with Trump while his wife had a baby. Now she still had the crap story, she couldn’t respond, and not a lot of money to deal with it. Not my personal ethics line, but I get where she is coming from.
I’m just confused as to why she doesn’t see that she is a victim. She admitted in the interviewer that she didn’t want to have sex with him yet felt it had gone too far and she had to. I suspect she has a really distorted view of sex. I would never, never have consensual sex if I wasn’t 100% into it. I went to slap her and say: “Girlfriend, practice saying NO.” I can’t imagine being that close to Trump . . . it’s a disgusting thought.
She isn’t a victim. She just decided to have sex with someone she wasn’t attracted to and said clearly she isn’t a victim, and it was consensual. It was her choice, and she could have left, but she chose not to.
Stormy made it clear she isn’t a victim. Only she can she can define what she is. There is nothing about her to think she is naive or that she doesn’t know what being victim means.
Maybe she doesn’t think she is a victim, but it is kind of sad that she felt she had to sleep with him because she had “got herself in a situation”. It may not be MeToo but it is a symptom of rape culture that she felt this way. And working in the porn industry it’s not like she developed healthy ideas about assertiveness, especially over 10 years ago.
@Nic and Andrea – my thoughts exactly. She asked to use the bathroom. In no part of my world is that permission for sex with someone you aren’t attracted to and don’t really want to have sex with.
I just don’t agree. Because she is in the porn industry to her, it might have been like filming a scene. She never said she regretted it or anything. It is possible she has paid to escort in her life or been a companion for money. Sex workers compartmentalize sex and not every sex worker is a victim of anything. That is a misconception because society can’t possibly imagine a woman owning her body and deciding what to do with it.
We can’t tell her how to feel or what to feel nor can we use our own value systems and sensitivities to judge this situation. I am not a sex worker, so she is operating in a whole other in life than I am.
I can’t help but compare this prez sex scandal with the other prez sex scandal. One happened during the presidency, and one happened before. Both men left a swath of women in their wake that they’d used, and later denied. Trump is despised (and rightly so), so the narrative here is going to be so. much. different.
Is te other president you’re referring to JFK? He was quite a dog…but somehow had charisma and was liked. Then again it was a whole ‘nother era. Yet men in power don’t seem to have changed much at all. I wonder how it would had been perceived in this day and age? Would he still be seen as hero of sorts after being killed next to his wife? Some of those WH men are smthg else…
What I don’t understand is the Evangelical Republicans excusing Trumps behavior. They fight for laws to make our society live by the rules of the bible, yet when their president breaks some of the 10 commandments & “bears false witness” and “commits adultery” they defend him. I know Christians believe in forgiveness, but one has to admit they did wrong and ask for it, two things Trump never does. They can’t have it both ways, damning the LGBT community because it’s against their religion while defending Trumps anti Christian behaviors.
It didn’t shock me at all that there was nothing new in the interview-her lawyer said as much beforehand. I think at this point it is about getting her as much press as possible so 45 will be forced to drop the lawsuit or make up some story about how it was “settled out of court” so he could get on with presidenting, cause like, it’s hard and stuff and he has important stuff to do.
I honestly can’t decide if I believe the part about the threat-it sounds like the product of someone who watches too many political thrillers. I feel like if 45 was going to threaten someone, he’d do it the way he knows best-monetarily. But having said that-he is a big enough moron to try it.
I can believe the threats as the orange stain thinks he’s NY mobster, in fact his whole family think they are.
That’s the easiest part to believe.
https://bzfd.it/2pIhR2b
That’s a buzzfeed article. Digital Unicorn, I don’t think they just think that, IMO Trump is a life long mobster.
Agree. When you haven’t got brains, you rely on brawn.
My opinion is that Cohen volunteered to find someone to do it and tRump didn’t say no. This would protect tRump ( Cohen’s raison d’être ) After all, Cohen prides himself on being a “fixer,” all the while he refers to himself as a “Ray Donovan,” the main protagonist of Goodfellas.
45 is tight with the mob. There is no way to be successful in NYC as a developer without having interactions with gangsters. His father was connected to them. You can’t do a thing in Atlantic City without them especially when he was operating.
He calls Don King his bestie and this is a man who murdered two people, one by stomping someone to death and got away with it. Boxing is mobbed up too.
A reporter worked on a story to expose this before the election, and the Wall Street Journal killed the story.
His whole election and tenure is like a bad novel or a ridiculous movie that would be so bad it would be comic. I mean Russians and spies? It is crazy, but then this whole thing is crazier than this story.
I feel really bad for Barron. This must all be so traumatizing for him. Like just the whole situation. The magazine stuff is funny and whatever, comparing her to Ivanka….WEIRD. I am not sure how much all of this matter. Like is anyone surprised? It is not like Trump had a wholesome image. It is entertaining watching it all unfold. As far as Stormi goes… did she get paid for this interview? Is this lady getting paid? What is the end game?
I do not. I am ice cold about this. In ten years he’ll be just another Trump. And this family is a clear and present danger to the United States of America.
No sympathy. No Empathy. No Pity.
Yeah I didn’t expect any bombshells but I did expect some humiliating details and in that sense, the interview didn’t disappoint. It was entertaining, that’s all.
60 minutes didn’t pay her but the ultimate end game is cash….the more notoriety she has, the more offers she gets. She pretty much admitted that in the interview.
If you are a porn star you can’t have a lot of criteria for money making to start with,
Exactly. I just can’t get behind her(no pun intended) because it seems more about money and self serving publicity than anything else.
Who else would have anything to do with 45? He had to pay women to be with him and surrounded himself with porn stars, sex workers and women looking for a gig on The Apprentice. That was his line to all of them knowing all along he was never going to put them on the show. A few he lusted after he put on, but it was his pickup line.
Stormy doesn’t pretend to be pious or without financial motives. It is the incentive to get into sex worker/porn industries in the first place.
That is always used to try to discredit women and deflect from the truth. You will see this all over the internet today from trolls.
Doesn’t make her liar. He never told her initially that she couldn’t say anything.
He knows he isn’t a hot, sexy stud so 45 chooses women he can dangle something in front of to get them to sleep with him. It is why he had his modeling agency. Legit on one level to appear above board to use as bait to lure young models to manipulate with false promises. There was an investigation going into their illegal activities that I am sure will be exposed because it leads back to Russia.
@Lion
What pun? ^^^
Methinks we have a troll.
Yep, exactly magnolia.
@magnoliarose I don’t disagree with a thing you said…I can’t stand trump for all he stands for, She is likely telling the truth NOW (but she has lied about it in the past)…. BUT I have no more respect for her role in this either. Her ultimate truth telling is cash driven. Looking at the totality of the story as known today — I’m rolling my eyes at all involved, I really dont have to choose a team here because there isn’t much to cheer about.
I never thought he was a faithful husband but his stupidity at not wearing a condom with a porn star and hiring an incompetent lawyer to deal with it is all the more staggering.
@CrazyCatlady
I love your name it describes me too. 🙂
I didn’t take your post as insulting her in a way I was trying to agree with you and illustrate why money would be a motive for her. Those are the only kind of women he hooks up with and marries. He has a type that is for sure.
So, of course, like you said she would try to get something out of it. I don’t blame her. Why not. He’s such a vile scumbag she may as well. He should understand opportunists.
We didn’t learn anything from this interview that we haven’t already heard before. The blame for this goes strictly to CBS. CBS caved under the pressure that the Dotard and his lawyers were putting on them and wouldn’t allow Stormy and her lawyer to go beyond what we have already heard. Anderson gave a interview and said that there was more tawdry things that she had told them, but they didn’t want to focus on it. Why not? CBS had an obligation and they failed. This is why the Dotard is president. The press would rather cower in fear than expose him.
Stormy also said that she didn’t want to sleep with the Dotard and didn’t enjoy it, so that confirms that Karen’s gushing interview was bought and paid for by the Dotard and his lawyer. It’s like the Dotard knew what Stormy was going to say, which is why they had Karen talk about how she loved the Dotard and had a great experience with him, and throw shade at Stormy.
What’s with the nickname? Is this suposed to refer to a word retard? There’s really nothing smart about it…
Um, no. The nickname comes from Kim Jung-Un and “dotard” means a senile elderly person : https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/north-korea-s-kim-jong-un-calls-president-trump-frightened-n803631
if you mean, “dotard”, google that and Kim Jong Un.
It’s a late middle English word meaning “an old person, especially one who has become weak or senile.”
I use Dotard when referring to #45. I try not to refer to him as President because I don’t believe he won the presidency fair and square. There were so many forces working against Hillary that she would have never won. Also, I believe the Dotard’s actions are perfect for using the word Dotard when referring to #45: jmo.
I find it interesting that Karen was given well beyond one hour to tell her bittersweet love story, while Stormy received one segment only (probably 15 minutes of actual interview time).
When the lawyer tweeted about not being sure what the network cut out, I knew we wouldn’t be seeing much. Also, other networks were going through the transcript BEFORE the show aired (due to the tournament going into OT).
When I heard Karen say that the dotard offered her money after sleeping with him and she turned him down, I told my friend, if I did sleep with that repulsive man he would have to pay me big time, what was she thinking, lol. I don’t know how she did not “up chuck” when he was done. She says she was in love with him. I’m wondering if he was a poor man would she say it was love? I looked back at pictures of the dotard of 12 years ago and he was repulsive. However, all the money in the world would not get me to sleep with him.
Of the two interviews, I found the interview that AC did with Karen McDougal more compelling. That said, I feel that Stormy is the smarter of the two women because she was under no illusions about Trump’s M.O.
Side note: Stormy’s attorney Michael Avenatti is great on TV and very hot.
Her attornery is so smart and hot. Not only is he an awesome lawyer, but he’s also a race car driver.
YES. Was waiting for someone here to say it first. Dude is effin SEXY. Also, seems like a really sharp guy that I would not wanna eff with.
I was thinking I might be the only one who thought he was sharp, hot and sexy
I would LOVE to F with him. My god, he’s attractive in so many ways.
Kaiser said it in her write-up. 🙂
I thought her lawyer was gorgeous…wow.
A bulldog. A hot, sessy bulldog!
That unfaltering, intense gaze…yowza.
Someone above made the point that a lot was cut out from the interview. So I wonder what that was? CBS did that.
His overall face does nothing for me, but man, you could cut glass on that bone structure.
I guess the “smart and beautiful” Ivanka will be working from home today. What a sick family! Ugh!
Princess Nagini was posting pictures of her kid yesterday. When skies are stormy, Nagini is always willing to exploit her kids to make everything seem normal and magical.
So true.
Nagini and Sarah Huckabee Sanders are pushing some article Nagini wrote for Fox News about her push for trade schools. She’s also retweeting articles about Jared saving the US relationship with Mexico without acknowledging that the relationship wouldn’t need saving if Daddy hadn’t messed with it.
I don’t know if this podcast has ever been posted on this site, but the Opening Arguments podcast is a legal podcast that breaks down the intricacies of different topics. They had one dedicated to Stormy Daniels (https://openargs.com/oa154-stormy-daniels-is-a-legal-genius/) and touch upon her case in subsequent podcasts. It’s super interesting and if any of you have long drives, it’s a wonderful listen.
Thanks for the recommendation. Always looking for new pods …downloading this one right now.
I hope you like it!
Thanks, KNy — it sounds like something I’ll find very interesting!
It is totally interesting – and this podcast made me feel better, because they explain how what’s out there is not even a scratch on the surface to how screwed they are. It’s my security blanket.
This was fantastic! And heartening! Thanks so very much.
Stormy is a pretty lady, but I really just want to add a tiny bit of volume to those brows. The 90s caused some follicular casualties.
Yes on a very superficial note, her eyebrows were very distracting to me. She has great bone structure but I think she’d really benefit from microblading..would balance out her face nicely.
I just want to get her a better fitted shirt, honestly. Women who are well-endowed in the chest are rarely flattered by button-ups.
They strove to tone down her look for the audience. I thought she came across as very composed and forthright. What I found interesting is how dialated her pupils were in that amount of light. Something exogenous was causing it… she didn’t seem scared enough for it to be catecholamines… and I think she was stone cold sober, so not opiates or cocaine or stimulants. I honestly have to wonder if they used some mydriatic drops ( the ones an ophthalmologist uses to dilate your eyes for a thorough exam) to favorably alter her appearance. I think Avenatti is smart enough and has been around the block many times where he could think this could be a beneficial tactic. The guy has won one billion dollars of awards in lawsuits to date. He obviously has a solid game plan.
I couldn’t figure out her eyes, either. She didn’t strike me as impaired in the slightest.
I didn’t watch. I want to know nothing of trumps sex life. I will be more interested when there are prosecutions for campaign finance. I hope Barron is allowed to bring a friend to Mar a Lago for spring break. Poor kid always looks lonely and kind of sad.
*shrugs* cause this won’t do anything and I’m tired.
I doubt this interview changed anyones opinion. It’s been known for years that he was a cheater, but Trumpsters, even evangelicals don’t care
I agree with you 100%. I actually watched this last night and thought “nothingburger.” The piece afterwards on the Milwaukee Bucks player was much more interesting. And a nice palate cleanser from Bigly topics.
I loved the next segment. Such a great story and for once in a long while we see someone with fame and fortune behave with authenticity, humility, grace, and content to live with LESS attention. Please more of these kinds of people and less plastic K klan types in the world of celebrity and fame.
Actually, Esmom CBS heavily edited the segment. So it was on purpose we heard so little.
Yep. Could you see if this was Obama?? They would be on the lawn with pitchforks and torches. VOTE your ass off in 2018 and 2020!!
Am glad she has come out and defended herself but if anything it will only make the deplorables defend him more as let’s face it, his ‘christian’ base (esp the men) all fantasise about being with a porn star – Josh Duggar anyone.
I hope her lawyer shows Mueller the contents of the cd drive he tweeted about. She clearly has something to backup her claims.
Didn’t she still vote for Cheetolini anyway? Idgaf what they did to or with each other pre- election, if she still voted for him anyway, she’s complicit and eff her.
The issue is that there’s sooo much filth about 45 that everyone is numb to it. Not sure what good it will do. And from a news standpoint, Stormy’s and Karen’s liaisons with Trump were consensual and date back to 2006. There was nothing new last night. Anderson Cooper is a wonderful journalist but IMO, this was his “Geraldo Rivera in Al Capone’s Vault” story. I would much rather he dished on his breakup with his longtime BF.
I do feel sorry for Barron. He’s the only innocent in all of this.
The impression I got is that this poor woman is in very far over her head and is being used by both sides. I guess I’m the only one whose slimy skeeze alarm was set off by her lawyer, everyone else is talking about how hot he was.
It’s not a poor woman situation. Stormy knew what she was getting into with Trump…..she was very truthful during the 60 min interview. She wanted fame and money. It took a detour that’s all.
It just popped on my newsfeed that 45’s lawyer sent Stormy a cease and desist letter. Now, why would they do that if there is still something they are hiding? What didn’t they air and what didn’t she say?
Why keep it going? This man’s character flaws and ego are just amazing. He can’t let it go EVER so he makes everything worse.
I’m by no means a Trump supporter, but does anyone even care about this? Bill Clinton was a cheater and so was JFK. If social media excisted back then I’d imagine the commentary would be similar. Trump is deplorable, but what he does in his personal life shouldn’t affect him as a president or him in his job. People still supported Obama despite doing drugs as a teen and they still supported Bill even after how many women came forward? Stormy and the other chick are just as sleezy as Trump. They knew he was married yet they still didn’t mind sleeping with him. Now suddenly he’s the bad guy? Sorry that doesn’t cut it for me.
It’s mot so much anyone cared that he cheated on his family. It’s more him being a hypocrite. He Paraded all of Bill Clinton’s women on stage during one of the debate to embarrass Hillary. He lied that it was just boys talk and locker room talk when he said he was grabbing women by the P@$$#. Now we know he was sleeping with porn stars and lying about it. He said all the women were all liars and would be sued after the election for lying. He’s a dispictable human being. His people gave Hillary hell for what her husband did. I have not heard one word from his people about Melania staying with this Dotard, jmo.
Btw, the dotard was the one who had a wife, not stormy or the playboy bunny. You can give him a pass but hold the woman responsible for his bad behavior. Also he was always the bad guy from about 40 years ago. I remember when he cheated on his first wife with the 2nd wife. I also remember him saying he had no money and was bankrupt just so he would not have to give Ivana what was owed to her, she worked her butt off to help made him rich and he stiffed her big time. After everything was settled he laughed at her for not getting her due. The man is a pig.
What makes this worth paying attention to is 1. Threats 2.villation of campaign finance law. True, it would have been a big deal for the actual POTUS to have a tawdry scandal, back when the world was even a tiny bit more normal…but in 2018 it’s the cover up, so to speak. Especially if other women are trying to get out of NDA’s with tr*mp as well. The best part was when Anderson cooper interviewed the campaign finance guy (can’t emembwr his position but he laid it all out really well).
In addition to what LP and BNA Fan said above, it’s worth pointing out that they tried to impeach Clinton for lying about his affair. Trump lies about his various affairs and lies about, well, everything and has yet to face an impeachment hearing. So no, your comparison isn’t really apt.
And Obama taking a toke of weed in college is the other comparison you’re trying to make? *eyeroll*
Yeah I’m not going to even dignify that one….
They DID impeach Clinton for lying about his affair. The House impeached him with then Rep Lindsey Graham leading the charge along with a bunch of hypocrites like Bob Barr & Henry Hyde. They didn’t succeed in getting the Senate to remove him from office.
The coverup and campaign finance violations are what matters here, not the known adulterer committing adultery.
Why are the go-tos on adulterous presidents always Kennedy and Clinton? It just demonstrates the strength of the Republican propaganda. Eisenhower kept a mistress. So did Poppy Bush. Carter, Obama, and John Adams are probably the only presidents who didn’t cheat.
The issue here isn’t adulterous pig cheated on his wife. The issue is the illegal use of campaign money
Exactly. I don’t think Truman cheated either. And maybe not Reagan. Ronald I mean. I can’t say I have the same confidence in Nancy. #truth.
I don’t think Ronnie was the poster boy for virtue, either.
Living in DC, you run into a lot of former Secret Service agents. The only president that they have not said were having affairs was Obama. Reagan and HW Bush were specifically mentioned as having them.
You have to be a 45 supporter to defend anything he does at this point. So I don’t believe you. No one on the left would say I am not a 45 supporter and then go on to say something supportive to excuse his behavior. NO. ONE.
Who would do that? We loathe him on every single level imaginable.
Who would then smear past Dem presidents like that? JFK has been thrown around as part of their campaign lately. I guess Clinton bashing only has become too obvious.
As if this issue isn’t on the pile of a bunch of other problems that make him a malignant sleaze. As if it isn’t part of his schtick. He is indefensible and has been from the beginning but at this point? Get out of here. It defies logic.
Oh and as if he should even be compared to JFK or Obama. Or Clinton even with his flaws. They were competent, and they didn’t collude with Russians, and they weren’t criminals.
No one is worse than he is.
So nope. You aren’t being honest.
I tend to agree with you about not caring about sexual affairs between. 2 consenting adults not in an employment situation, (I didn’t care about Bill C & Gennifer Flowers…..But Monica Lewinsky bugged me as she was an intern and it happened in Oval Office FFS). But yeah a whole bunch of presidents had side pieces, It’s ok when mine does it, but it is not ok when yours does. 👀
I do care about campaign finance law though. A lot. And it’s usually the money issues that being these jackasses down. 👍🏼
I roll my eyes about the hypocrisy of republicans and family values, sure. But I also roll my eyes about the hypocrisy of Democrats and their support of women issues, Face it ladies ……we are still a piece of action and are 2nd class citizens to most political men regardless of their party persuasion,
What really annoys me is the evangelicals who support and voted for trump for POTUS despite his multitude of sexual sins….but think baking a cake for a gay couple compromises their values,
Democrats aren’t busy trying to outlaw abortion and make birth control uninsurable, vilify transgender and gay people and pass judgement on non Christians. I agree with the part about their personal life is a private matter, just hate the hypocrisy of men like trump, Gingrich’s and rest of the grotesque gop.
On what planet is a TEEN experimenting with drugs equal to grown men with kids cheating on their spouses multiple times? Obama doing typical young & dumb stuff before his brain was fully developed doesn’t even compare to the behaviors of those other three men. Come on now. If you’re going to Stan for Trump, at least try to avoid false equivalents.
I agree that it was wrong for these women to sleep with Trump when they knew he was married, but ultimately he’s worse for it and bears the majority of the responsibility for it because he’s the one who was married. As you can see, he’s cheated multiple times on the different women he’s been married to over the years. Clearly he’s the problem, as he’s the common denominator in these affairs and has been unwilling to change the behavior. I’d say the same thing about Bill/Monica and JFK/Marilyn. Add to that the fact that he hasn’t just stuck to consensual sex throughout his life, and you have another reason why ‘he’s the bad guy’. Normally I agree that politicians’ affairs are irrelevant when it comes to them doing their jobs. This particular administration and it’s supporters happen to always go on about how judeo-christian values make them more moral than everyone else, so there’s an added layer of hypocrisy to all of this. Don’t worry though- if all the other things he’s done wrong weren’t enough to ruin him, there’s no way philandering with consenting adult women will. But imagine if it got out that a female politician got around just like Trump has. Her career would likely take a huge hit. Maybe even some nudes would do it.
I absolutely believe her and our government is a joke. Many of our voters are ignorant at best. I am worried about Stormy, my grandpa pointed out during her interview that her pupils are HUGE. Is she’s taking something to calm down? Is she scared, anxious, I’m sure she’s worried about Trumps goons.
I only want to know about the pay off with campaign funds. Everything else is National Enquirer fodder. She probably would have said nothing at all if she got a spot on his show. I did respect her for saying she wasn’t a victim and didn’t want to include herself in the #metoo commentary. It was a business transaction even then. She knows that.
I really can’t imagine what the right would be doing if this were Obama or some Democrat. They would be soiling themselves nonstop.
Oh, absolutely! Michelle dared to wear a sleeveless dress and got ripped to shreds. They would be painting Obama as a thug, cheater, criminal etc..
Oh, it would have gotten openly racist fast.
Also let’s not pretend that it’s normal for a president to be thrice married and have five kids by as many women. Or to have multiple harassment and assault accusations leveled against them. Or, you know, even 0.01% of the shitshow that’s surrounded Trump’s administration.
So……why did she have s#x with him? Because she saw $$$ and was hoping for a big payday. Why did she go on TV?? There is no doubt that she has big backers paying her to continue with this “tour”. The ultimate hope is that this is will bring the President down. Will it? Probably not. Unfortunately, the press is really not handling this well. The interview should have been about the money and who paid her not what happened when they had s#x. The truth is that they are waiting for the President to deny it officially but he hasn’t and without that denial there is nothing to do right now. He doesn’t have to deny it anymore because the press has kept saying that the affair is not the issue the payout is. And right now the lawyer will take the fall not Trump. So the press is hoping that women will turn against Trump because of the affair. Forgetting that many of these women have affairs and know that their husband has affairs as well and don’t always care. They also don’t really believe that this woman is credible. But hey it was good TV I guess.
I’m sad to see so many comments here and elsewhere zeroing in on her job and making moral judgment on her motivations because of it. To me, it reads a little like vague throwing shade and slut-shaming. Call me crazy, but so what if she’s done porn? I understand that her job isn’t completely unrelated to this. By the same token, we get it. She’s not lesser for working in that industry or for making a career out of it.
On that front, I appreciate the Anderson Cooper team referring to her as “adult film star” and article writers not going on and on about her work history. It means the same thing but doesn’t come across as dismissing. I just feel like continuously qualifying her as a porn star when we wouldn’t be talking about women who aren’t in adult entertainment by their job title, like “lawyer Jane Smith” or “bakery chef Jane Smith”.
When she described what happened, it struck out to me that she said she felt she’d gone too far and couldn’t back out. And that it was consensual but transactional. That sounds a lot like a casting couch situation, and just because she’s been in adult films doesn’t take away her credibility here.
I also believe she would’ve gotten a ton more money if she’d sold her interview to other outlets instead of agreeing to the NDA. Which brings up the question of why she opted for the NDA in the first place—and that question is answered, with the implication of violence to her and her family if she went public with the story.
Her lawyer, Michael Avenatti, is a hitter. The way he’s framing the narrative shows a lot of PR savvy. I don’t think that guy’s a clown and I think he knows exactly what he’s doing. And he’s taking this on pro bono. He’s alluded to the incompetence of the original attorney who handled the NDA—which I read elsewhere was also connected to Trump.
Are alarm bells going off somewhere? I particularly don’t care if her sole motivation now is to get a good payday. This woman was wronged. She was bullied and she was victimized after the alleged encounter. She may be instrumental in exposing campaign finance violations that could boost confidence in Mueller’s investigations, corner Trump into a kerfuffle he can’t escape from, and increase visibility to the shady dealings with which this sham of an administration is fraught.
Get it, Stormy.
Her current lawyer has only had this case for roughly a month. He’s certainly brought it to a larger audience and seems confident that there is a bigger story to tell.
Just not sure what more there is to say? Any ideas? I think we all believe that they had an affair. I think we all believe that the Trump organization paid the 130,000. I don’t know if we all believe the incident in the car park? So what else. If they have s#x tapes they can’t use them legally because it is against the law to tape someone having s#x. They then would be in big trouble and others who have been with her would think she had taped them too. Honestly I think they have played their hand.
And he’s not a nobody or an inexperienced hack. I’ll say it again: Michael Avenatti is a great attorney. A lot of people are criticizing the circus treatment this case has received, but I’m convinced that this guy’s strategy is what will ultimately get the attention this story deserves.
Sherry, there are a ton of possibilities for what could be on that tape. Texts, phone calls, photographic evidence, video… And if something is illegal to disclose, I’m sure Avenatti won’t put it out there for public consumption. However, it might be admissible in a trial for rebuttal purposes in a closed hearing.
Further, what else is there to say? Well, if there are campaign finance violations, that’s one way to get to Trump. I have no faith in Congress to do anything, so if it takes drumming up immense public interest in what would be a non-story if Cohen or any of the Trump Org Clowns had any idea how to handle things effectively, by way of a salacious affair story better suited for tabloid fodder, I’m all for it.
This isn’t a drive-by character assassination. I don’t care about the sex. I care about the implications of how they covered it up. FEC violations are just more ammo for Mueller.
Also, it’s worth repeating: the incumbent has a ton of sexual assault and harassment allegations hanging over his head. We have a primetime interview with an alleged extramarital sex partner. I know the country’s just about fatigued by the constant scandal of the Trump administration, but this is outrageous. Any other president or even low-level politician, and the 24h news cycle would be foaming at the mouth and running this 24/7. Instead, we have to rely on her lawyer to round up enough attention for it to get coverage.
A president having an affair (even a decade ago) is not something we should normalize, especially not a Republican president with all the backing of the Family Values crowd. Melania had just given birth. Nonchalance is not the answer here.
But Hmm does it matter? I guess the bigger picture is do the American People care if their President has an affair?? I just don’t think they do. And I agree he might have texts. But what do they prove – an affair? We already know they had an affair. So then what??? If the President of the US truly sent someone to threaten a child and you have proof not taking that to the authorities should be considered a crime on its own. I always side eye anything played out on social media or TV and posting that picture of the DVD on twitter – a lawyer – really if you have proof take it to the authorities!! And if she was paid and the lawyer says he made the payment and Trump never signed it. Then……… unfortunately his legal counsel is actually very smart. A lot of people might think they are bumbling but in reality, its all covered. This is a desperate attempt to take Trump down and I just don’t think it is going to work. And notice Trump has not said a word. That is so interesting. He knows exactly what he can and can’t say in a legal battle. I don’t have a horse in this race because I live in Canada but watching it play out is one big drama and meanwhile, the laws are changing, more judges are being chosen, and instead of the news focusing on that, it does this kind of stuff. And we all know that legal cases take years. So Trumps presidency will be finished before this ever comes to the courts.
It’s not about the affair, the bigger case is that Michael Cohen put together an LLC specifically to pay off Stormy with party funds, not that The Dotard slept with a pr0n star years ago. This is an impeachable offense. Because he didn’t sign the document, and is referred to with a pseudonym (DD), Stormy now has every right to peel off the redacted portion of the document which refers to DD as Donald Trump. There are also attachments to the document containing texts and photographs of them that would be extremely dangerous to reveal. Basically, Stormy holds all the cards and I think Michael Cohen could easily be disbarred over all this.
@hmm Me, I personally have nothing to say about porn star vs adult film actor — we all know it’s the same occupation. My issue lies with her trading sex for an opportunity to be on a TV show…. that’s going to be a tough one to explain to her daughter. Adult film actors get paid for the job they do; they signed up for that. ‘Sleeping’ your way to a job is a whole other cannoli.
Agree Michael Cohen could be disbarred. But…..the President. That is what I mean. Frequently people take the fall for the more powerful people. Just saying. Stormy doesn’t hold anything. We all know the money was paid. There will be no proof that Donald gave the money. If Michael stated that he paid he plans to stick to that and is willing to go down. Notice how he is the one who is sending the cease and desist because he is taking the blame for the payment and says that he never sent the goon. There are no dangerous photos of them together because everyone know they had an affair. Unless Stormy has a taped phone call of someone threatening her it’s a nothing burger. And if she does she should go to the police and turn it in or she could be up for charges for withholding evidence. I really think she is playing a dangerous game. Also Mueller is investigating Russia not Stormy Daniels. If he does he is overstepping his bounds and that is also a huge problem. A special council cannot move to all things it has to focus on its mandate. So…. again a nothing burger. Quit falling down rabbit holes. No good will come out of it. Focus on the real stuff and bring him down that way. If you can prove that he is not helping the US with jobs and taxes and stuff like like he will be brought down. But affairs and payments to porn stars not so much.
Sherri, are your legal explanations based on Canadian law or U.S. law? And if based on U.S. law, which state?
Sherri referret to a “car park” which is not a US or Canadian usage.
Did anyone else peep how dilated her pupils were?
Yep. Sure did,
My daughters eyes dilate like that too though. First time I noticed she was about 12 yrs old and were were in the bright kitchen at a small get together, & my friend actually pointed it out. And then I started to looked for it & sometimes her eyes are very dilated for no explainable reason. Can’t explain why – it happens with all the lights on, no drugs, etc.
There’s a “host of evidence”?????? Wait, is there a Trump sex tape??? Let me know when it hits YouTube!!!!!! Morbid curiosity.
I don’t buy her story at all. She is so unattractive and looks used and trashy af. I believe the other woman, Karen though. Seems to be more of his type…
If it was Hillary Clinton the president who had an affair with a male stripper I’m sure people would “care if their president had a sexual relationship”.