I’ve read some really great, thoughtful pieces and tweet-threads about why the Roseanne reboot feels so flat. After reading the immediate reaction on Twitter, it really did feel like this show is going to be the Deplorables’ latest cause du jour. They like everything Roseanne Barr represents on and off the screen, the idea that she’s speaking out as some kind of oppressed white working-class minority in the Rust Belt. Here’s the thing though – the real Roseanne lives in California and Hawaii. The real Roseanne is rich. The real Roseanne is just an unhinged bigot and loon. And that’s the thing: in many ways, she really IS the archetypal Trump voter. The New York Times would have you believe that Trump’s electoral victory was about the economically oppressed white folks. It never was. His electoral victory was always about bigotry, stupidity, hypocrisy, hatred, jingoism and misogyny. The subtext became text and middle class and wealthy white people voted for him in droves because of that. And that’s what Roseanne Barr represents. Roseanne spoke with People Mag. Some highlights:
She doesn’t regret anything: “I’m smarter now. If I was as smart then as I am now … well, that’s not possible. I don’t regret anything. All those good stories, it all brought me here.”
Why the ‘Roseanne’ reboot talks about politics: “It’s important to talk. Now, it seems like every topic is being discussed, and I’m happy with that.”
She voted for Trump to “shake up the status quo.” “I think we need to converse more, but more than anything we need to get involved and run our government for ourselves instead of sitting back and wanting somebody else to do it. Even voting isn’t enough. You have to be involved. I talk about this with my grandkids – you have to get in there and get your hands dirty if you want things to go the way you want them to go. We’re lucky in this country that we can do that. We can really get our hands dirty and put our big collective shoulders to the wheel and change and fix things. I think that’s what’s exciting about our country right now.”
People are mad about Trump & that’s good: “People are mad. But just being mad doesn’t do anything. You’re just a toad. But if you’re mad and that propels you to get involved to run for office — that was a lot of the reason I ran, just to show other grandparents. We’re the most educated, rich generation that ever was, so if we can’t do it, nobody can. I like to see that.”
I don’t understand why so many Trump voters continue to say such vague statements about why they voted for him. Like, you voted for him to “shake things up” and now that everything is a gold-plated dumpster fire, you’re shrugging and saying “well, I never said changing the system was going to be easy!” No, that’s what Trump said – he was a snake oil salesman and millions of morons (white supremacist morons) bought the snake oil, believing that the oil would cure them of immigrants, black folks, liberals and women’s rights. And all of the sh-t that needs fixing? A) Trump isn’t going to fix it and B) it will take decades to undo all of the damage the Trump presidency has done. The Deplorables aren’t “fixing” sh-t.
As for the show – Roseanne debuted to massive ratings. So no, it probably won’t be canceled anytime soon. The Deplorables are making it their own must-watch TV. And that should tell you everything you need to know about the show. This too should tell you everything you need to know: Donald Trump personally called Roseanne to congratulate her on the bigly ratings. The last time he called to congratulate someone, it was Vladimir Putin and Trump’s security briefing had “DO NOT CONGRATULATE” written in all-caps.
Photos courtesy of Backgrid.
I am almost obsessed with this. The reason is that I have never watched even one minute of reality tv. I never saw Trump coming. I was clueless. And I will never underestimate this trash culture again. So I am fixated on this stupid, off-the-wall, bully firmly implanting the Big Crazy (Pizzagate level crazy) into American living rooms.
It’s dangerous. She’s dangerous. She should be institutionalized and yet, here we are.
I’m really flummoxed by people who know Trump from the Apprentice as their only point of reference regarding him. I guess i forget how amazing the best PR can do for a person because for Trump to even present himself as a successful businessman on the Apprentice took some chutzpah and amazing PR.
Trump has been making headlines in the 80s and 90s for all the wrong reasons. Everything from his various bankruptcies, his spectacularly wondering peen – usually with playmates, the cheating on every single wife – only idiots thought he was not cheating, the OTT opulent lifestyle in that gold apartment, the plastic wives – Ivana was considered the best of the bunch and their divorce turned into a pop culture icon – ‘don’t get mad, get everything’ was her sage advice to divorcing wives.
Frankly, the Apprentice helped Trump rebrand himself, but a simple google search throws up all the problematic headlines detailing his deplorable behaviour and quotes.
All this pearl clutching, especially regarding the cheating is making me eyeroll to the max because Trump as faithful or appropriately faithful husband is a stretch too far in terms of rewriting his history.
Oh I agree. I live in NY, I know all about him and have forever. That’s why I really didn’t see him coming, I believe. I didn’t watch his tv show, and had no idea he was running such a successful con on the rest of the country.
Darla, i watched with increasing incredulity at his progress during the campaign. His first speech when he was rude about Mexicans should have been his last as a candidate, but i guess the con worked better than anyone thought.
Mostly i blame the media for his successful campaign because they didn’t highlight any of his problematic past. He literally coasted on his Apprenticeship image, and people didn’t bother looking deeper than that. Ditto his opponents.
…but i remember a discussion here on CB where some commentors confessed they only knew him from the Apprentice!!! Amazing.
If you have the stomach to read “American Psycho,” published 1990, it’s basically a satire of the 1980s NY finance bro culture that Trump personifies. The book is fiction but he’s mentioned repeatedly throughout it. Then bizarrely, IRL he was elected president.
I saw it coming because I had to spend the summer before the election arguing with certain male friends who were unrecalcitrantly in support of Trump and more, hating on Hillary. They believed every word in that Clinton Cash book, even though I unravelled one of its allegations in a half an hour on the Internet. That book was funded by Bannon and Mercer with no fact checking. Yet Hillary did nothing to defend herself against it. Add in Russian meddling with all the fake stories on Facebook, which certain other of my critical-thinking-impaired friends would quote to me. And finally top it off with a pervasive low-level misogyny and lechery that even I was shocked to discover in my last, predominantly male environment job.
@Darla: same. I grew up in NY seeing his cheating scandals, divorces, bankruptcies etc. on the covers of newspapers constantly so I never for one moment took his candidacy seriously. I laughed it off literally until Election Day. I never watched The Apprentice and I underestimated how little the rest of the country knew about him, apparently.
I guess the joke was on us. : (
So, to all the Trump haters who still turned into the show, are you proud of yourself now?
Roseanne is a vile woman who pushes insane conspiracies theories. She dangerous. And I judge anyone who helped give her these ratings.
Not sorry.
Agree! Thank you.
“Oh I was tuning in to see Aunt Jackie”
F Aunt Jackie!
Seriously. They can watch Aunt Jackie in Lady Bird.
Aunt Jackie is all over film and tv. She’s been doing other projects besides Roseanne for years!
Seriously. Do not give this terrible person the ratings, please.
I read that NY wasn’t in the Top 10, LA wasn’t in the Top 30 cities for viewers of this show. It was seen more in Oklahoma, Texas, etc. The biggest “liberal” viewing area was Chicago.
So she got great ratings for the first show, so what. I’m sure a lot of people watched out of curiosity, like me. I’m not sorry for watching. The real test will be if people continue to watch, which I won’t. One high rated night won’t keep her on the air, and the more vile she spews on Twitter (such as the “Nazi salute” she posted today which was deleted) the less chance the show will even make it through the first season.
God, she’s the right wing mirror image of Susan Sarandon. Ignorantly throwing out calls to “shake things up” when she will never have to worry about the whiplash. Always ready to have other people spill their blood while she sits back on some rarefied cloud and watches.
I hope the rest of the actors on the show enjoy the aiding and abetting they’re doing for this woman and the monster she supports.
Good analogy. And yeah, I can’t understand why those other actors are part of this. As someone said yesterday, they must have been offered suitcases full of cash.
A tornado will shake things up, too. Doesn’t mean you should invite one over for dinner.
And no, Roseanne. Grandparents today are not the richest ever. YOU are richer than ever. Other grandparents are worrying about how to pay the bills and what a disaster any illness or injury will be for them and what’s going to happen to Medicare and Medicaid (which they will need if they go into a nursing home).and Social Security.
I think Sarah Gilbert has a producers credit for this show? I read on Entertainment Weekly she was instrumental in getting this show off the ground. Thanks a lot Sarah.
Yeah, don’t understand Gilbert’s participation in this crapfest, being as she’s an out lesbian and the Trump/Pence regime “Roseanne” promotes is totally anti-LGBTQI. I guess the money is more important than protecting the rights of the minority to which she belongs. What do you call a gay person who sells out to the people who want her marginalised and/or dead?
The ratings of rebooted TV comedies — just what the leader of the free world should be paying attention to.
Imagine, just for a moment, that Black Panther had premiered three years ago and Obama called to congratulate the director on the movie’s topping $1B in box office.
Same dude whose tweet about blackish is one of the dumbest things ever posted.
But we have Will and Grace. The others can take this show. Never saw it. Never will.
Here is a crazy thought: Does anyone else think they may have discussed 45 appearing on the show? Roseanne is a big supporter of his and we all know how 45 loves attention. I can see this happening
OMG! this could totally happen!
Roseanne : You know Mr President you should do a guest spot on my show”
45: “ Roseanne, I couldn’t . I am so busy running the country”
Roseanne: “ Well… Obama never appeared on a television sitcom while president”
45: “ When do you want me at the studio?”
Trump always insisted on doing a cameo for any movie filmed at Trump Tower, I think.
@JWoolman: yes this is true! My son is a huge fan of the Home Alone movies so I’ve picked up some trivia along the way, lol. Trump owned the Plaza Hotel when they were filming Home Alone 2 there and he would only grant permission if he got a cameo 🙄.
Apparently part of the deal was also that he would be referred to as “Mr. Trump” (more eyerolls) in his scene, but that made no sense for Home Alone because this kid from Illinois would have no idea who he was. I heard that they had Macaulay Culkin *say* “thank you, Mr. Trump” while filming just to shut him up, but then edited out his name later 🙂
Can’t stand this old bag.
Trump likes it, well just lost me as a viewer. I want him impeached
Firing his top level government appointees = Twitter.
Congratulating his unhinged supporter for her ratings = personal phone call.
Yup. Not surprised.
I know, right? His idiocy and indecency knows no bounds.
I was angered to hear this compared to All in the Family..in that show the bigot faced an opponent well versed and familiar with facts and the truth..I understand in this show, her sister is supposed to be the counter-trump voice, but is depicted as a loud woman in a slogan tee. I won’t watch, but that doesn’t matter–by denying any character to calmly counter the nonsense with facts, this is obviously just one big ad for the con-man-in-chief.
I read that her sister was supposed to vote for Clinton but ended up voting for Jill Stein. I already know too much about a show that I will never watch. Ugh.
All so strange. I won’t be watching any of it.
So glad I have stopped watching most of my American tv shows. Netflix has given me so many movies and shows from other countries.
The only 3 shows I watch are Fuller House, Designated Survivor & Big Bang Theory.
I love the big bang theory. Does it bother you that Sheldon’s mom and Leonard are involved in this? Because it’s bothering me. I thank god Parsons has nothing to do with this. Some people find Sheldon annoying, I love him. He makes me laugh so much.
I love Sheldon and I want him as my friend 😂
Don’t mind about his mother and Leonard’s father – they are adults and single.
I just want Raj to get a normal partner who he ends up marrying.
Oh no Maya, I meant does it bother you that Laurie Metcalf and Johnny Galecki are involved in this Roseanne reboot. Metcalf far more than Galecki, but he is doing one episode too.
Oh sorry 😊
I didn’t know they are involved, so disappointed.
Let’s see if they are only doing guest appearances or more than 1 episode.
Leslie Winkle is an executive producer, Sheldon’s mom is one of the stars, and Leonard is making a guest appearance. They all suck now. Really disappointed in Sara Gilbert and Laurie Metcalf.
I am too Lady D. It’s an issue for me because of TBBT. I keep asking myself; would Parsons have done it? IF he had been on the original, would be go back now, like Galecki? I am telling myself no, because sometimes just watching Sheldon gets me through some bad days.
Did any of you WATCH the show?? It was REALLY good. Yes, Roseanne voted for Trump, and because of this she is fighting with the rest of her family. The show explores ALL viewpoints and includes minorities, gender confused individuals, pop culture, and general family politics.
I was PREPARED to hate it…but I didn’t. It was thought provoking and interesting and FUNNY!
I will be watching this season.
Then you’ve learned nothing from a reality tv show star becoming President and poisoning our democracy. Pat yourself on the back – sustained ignorance takes real work these days!
You’ve earned your payment cleveland girl.
But where can you spend rubles in Cleveland?
Perfect comment!
Don’t care how good the show was, I will never watch her show. Vile woman. Reminds me of the playboy bunny who had an affair with the Dotard, knows he is a racist, snake oil salesman, used her, lied to her and she still voted for him, dregs of society, IMO.
She is an Islamophobe, a misogynist, and a racist. I don’t care if the show is good. She sucks so I won’t watch, period. It’s not even about her being a Trump-supporter, it’s about her being a terrible person.
I didn’t watch it because I’m not supporting a racist, xenophobe, transphobic wack job who pushes Info Wars agendas. I don’t care how many black or gender fluid grandchildren they give her.
But this comment sums up so much. It’s the *I* mentality. “I like it. So I will watch it.”. Doesn’t matter that a vile women who supports a vile president is the star. Doesn’t matter that her views are dangerous to minorities. It’s all about*me* and what *I* like. Go have a seat with the 53% of white women who voted for Trump.
+1 to Jenns’ comment.
Yes I recorded it and watched it yesterday. But I truly didn’t find it very funny. But I also don’t find the reboot of Will & Grace funny. In both cases the characters and the jokes feel like caricatures of the originals….like they are pushing too hard to recreate what used to be except on steroids.
I would not refuse to watch on the singular premise that Roseanne is a trump supporter henceforth I don’t watch. If it was funny — If it made me laugh, think, etc — yes I’d watch it. What I saw did neither. The gender fluid grandson was the best part of the show.
Deciding to cancel Goodman and Metcalf for participating is ridiculous in my opinion. They see value in the contextual conversation of family dynamics in today’s culture, perhaps in how to navigate disagreement when you disagree vehemently. Maybe. I wouldn’t shade them for not participating but I have no shade for doing so either.
so, if David Duke or Richard Spencer or Milo Yannawhateverhisname is had a TV show, you’d watch it if it were funny? and you’d over look their odious views because “it’s funny!”?…
ok, then.
I’m capable of watching (and reading) lots of things I may disagree in general with if it has other redeeming value, I mean after all —I come here and read comments I disagree with, and stories with premises I disagree with.
Sometimes I learn something. Sometimes I teach something.
No shame in any of that.
and Roseanne has some “redeeming value”? oh, it must be her spreading the news of 45 busting all those pedophilia rings, right? mainly the one being run out of the basement of that pizza place? the one WITHOUT A BASEMENT?
simply “reading or watching something you disagree with” is one thing, actively supporting a woman who supports all things Drumpf and putting money in her pocket is another.
pro tip: Drumpf supporters CANNOT be taught, unless it’s to mindlessly believe and obey their orange master. and what exactly are you “learning” from that drivel, or “teaching” people by watching it?
The world little Donnie sees on television is more real to him than the actual one that he is wrecking. He is trying to fill his cabinet from the talking heads on Fox News and he is obsessed with ratings. He doesn’t take huge briefing books to bed to study, he gets his current events from Fox. When life seemed awful my mother would tell me that this too shall pass. It sure is passing slowly.
Speaking of “ratings”: I got a Trump MAGA survey in the mail along with a letter “from” Trump. No idea why I am on his mailing list. Anybody else get one of these? Bunch of questions deliberately worded to show your praise and support. Oh, and at the end it asks for donations, but if you can’t make a donation, please send $15 for the cost of processing the survey. LMAO. And you have to submit it with your name and address, so if you answer honestly that you hate him, they know who and where you are. I threw it away.
Unless I know a piece of mail is important (bill, info on my different insurances, etc) it goes directly into the recycle bin. Don’t open those things. Too much of my mail is junk mail.
It came it a large envelope with “Donald J. Trump” in huge lettering, so my curiosity got the better of me. The return envelope isn’t even postage paid, you have to pay the postage to send it in. I was thinking, my son (now 10) did a drawing of Trump before the election, where he made him look sinister and he wrote things like “he’s mean” and “don’t vote for him” on the edges. Maybe I’ll just photo copy that and mail it in without the survey. LOL
@Jules- my grandson had an art project in his art class last year. He had to use a famous person and transform him into Hades. It was great!
My husband has been getting those too, and we have no idea why because he always donated to Obama!
I enjoy shredding them.
I’ve gotten at least a dozen of those. And I’m a registered DEM! lol I toss them where they, and he (after jail), belong: in the trash.
Urgh. The “USA” is rich and well-educated. Thanks to the huge and widening gulf between rich and poor – which worsened under the great tax giveaway to the 1% – the majority of “Americans” are not.
She is correct about “voting not being enough” though, what with gerrymandering, the electoral college neutering the popular vote and skewed distribution of senators making some votes more equal than others. Meanwhile Wisconsin governor Scott Walker is ignoring court orders to even hold special elections at all…
You said it, Elkie.
the only way the GOP can win is by cheating.
or, not holding elections at all.
The Russian bots may be promoting the show also. They really never left and came out in full force to smear McCabe when he was fired, for instance. I expect another wave against Bob Mueller, since attacks on the investigation are apparently shifting to attacks directly on Mueller.
I’m not watching the show, and I’m done supporting the actors involved in it. Roseanne isn’t making this show by herself. They all came back. They are all complicit in putting the message out there that nutjobs like Roseanne deserve airtime. I get that it’s just a tv show, but that’s what we all said about the 9 million things that got us all to the point of having a dangerous and dumb tanning bed disaster leading the country.
I agree with you. Anyone who participates in the normalization of this administration is cancelled for me.
and if Roseanne had been a democrat and bashed trump the whole time, he would have tweeted out that she was a hasbeen and her career was dying.
For the longest time I thought being the president was the busiest job on the planet, but apparently not
Other presidents may have been busy but not Trump. I go to his schedule every day and there is NOTHING of importance on it. For over a week he didn’t get intelligence briefings. Most days he only has In-town travel pool (where he supposedly calls people and that usually doesn’t start until 9), intelligence briefing, lunch and maybe press conference with Sanders. Today he’s flying to Ohio for a speech and then heading to Florida. He has BARELY worked 4 days this week (Monday had NO schedule events other than the ones I mentioned). He works less than I do and I’m retired.
Yet he has time to call freaking Roseanne 🙄
Totally deplorable — never watched her, never liked her — UGH!
Well, I think Emperor Zero should call ME.
I am loathed by the deplorables and MAGAts in vast numbers. I am eternally optimistic that Many Are Getting Arrested (MAGA) and that Mueller Ain’t Going Away (MAGA). I also deserve a call because I’d like to know how it feels for the Dotard to Make Attorneys Get Attorneys (MAGA).
Call me, Dough-Boy. We can have a more meaningful summit than the one you won’t be attending with Kim Jong Un.
Good for her. No matter who is in the White House, very few decisions they make will affect her, because she is white and she she is wealthy. Just what things did she shake up, anyway? Is she not bothered about how the decisions this administration makes will affect her grandchildren in regards to, say, women’s (sexual) health or education? And what about other men, women and children who are not in her fortunate position? Does she not give any thought to their situations? Oops, sorry. I forgot. She’s a moron.
I’ve noticed the ads have started, promoting the Roseanne reboot here, to start after the Commonwealth Games. Yeah, I’ll be giving it a big miss. I’m not having a bar of the vile Ms Barr.
I agree with your politics and feelings on dump truck, but you should watch the show if you are going to write about it. Jackie is portrayed the same way she was in the original series, not as some crazy loud liberal, but as a woman that has feelings and opinions and loves her family. I thought it was a funny and accurate look at what’s happening in families across the country since the election. Job loss, adult children returning home with their children, the high cost of medical care, gender fluid children, and how to keep being a family and support system for those you love while being so angry with them over their beliefs and vote.
I could watch the hell out of a show like that, IF the titular character weren’t played by a real life, hate-filled, racist, misogynist, transphobic, bully.
And I just want to point out that your description of what’s happening to families over political beliefs, really mostly applies to white families. My black friends don’t have that crap going on in their families.
BINGO.
This show is for the white people freaking out and starting threads on Reddit asking how to deal with their racist family members on Thanksgiving. It takes all that racism and wraps it up in a nice little box so white people can feel better. It’s yet another story about a white person who voted for Trump with zero regrets and uses “jobs” as an excuse for their racism.
If I wanted this perspective, I would read the NYT Opinion section.
I never watched Roseanne the first time around, so I didn’t understand why so many people seemed excited for the reboot. I always found Roseanne herself too crass. That she’s a Trump supporter is no surprise and just one more reason to skip it.
Totally agree! Couldn’t stand the show. Characters you pray you don’t live near lolllll.
Of course. Disgusting.
Of course he did, because IT’S NOT LIKE HE HAS ANYTHING ELSE TO DO.
For fks sake.
I’ll admit I watched the first episode just to see, I loved the original Roseanne, like many others. I laughed a few times but most of the time it was just annoying! Like she is really trying to normalize being a Trump voter and there was a bunch of Hilary hate so the deplorable’s are gonna love it. They throw in this little black girl as DJ’s daughter lol I’m guessing so Roseanne can be like look I’m not racist! I have a black grand daughter, who I love! It was a trashy mess and not in a good way like the original, won’t be tuning in again.
– “Hey, how can I get away with being a racist, misogynist, POS on TV?”
– “Uhh, just get yourself some black girl and a non-binary character.”
I avoided the original Roseanne show and I will continue to avoid the reboot. Ugh I can’t stand this rich trailer trash woman! I am surprised the flag waving anthem singing deplorables forgave her for butchering the anthem and grabbing her crotch while she sang it at that baseball game. She is the meaning of money can’t buy grace or class. I really hope her ratings tank, please don’t support such trash.
@Ashley
Thank you so much, excellent description.
I never watched it and never will.
Pure trash, same as the reality show trash all over TV.
Low brow, no class at all, no grace either.
Money certainly can’t buy grace or class, good example is the Trump (mob) family.
Although, they probably live on borrowed money, that’s why Trump run for president to bail out his family from crushing debt.
The corruption, there are days when I can hardly believe it.
The mob moved into the White House…
Some people’s IQ must drop a few – watching this garbage.
I just couldn’t watch it. I was excited to hear the reboot was actually going to happen, but that changed when I found out that Roseanne Barr batshit crazy was going to spill over onto Roseanne Connor. The Roseanne character would have never been a Trump voter. I read that Sara Gilbert defended this by saying that statistically, the Connor family would be Trump voters based on where they live, their income, etc. That if you follow the family on the trajectory of the show that they would be Trump voters. Sorry, no. The original Roseanne character called out bullshit and would have smelled Trump/Pence all the way to Lanford.
So, for me, this reboot will be tossed on the same scrapheap that the last few original seasons were tossed on. How sad.
Sara Gilbert sold herself for money. That’s all there is to it. I think she gets a production credit. out of this.
“Get your hands dirty”? Please explain, Roseanne. How do you think people should achieve their political goals? Bribery? Fraud? Voter suppression? Gerrymandering? Or how about treason & collusion? Do tell. Tell us how you are so smart now that you have risen above democracy and embraced kleptocracy and corruption to “shake things up”.
I will NEVER watch this show. Barr lost me when she voted gleefully for that orange pustule. Her argument of “would you rather have Pence instead?” made me feel homicidal.
NO you GORMLESS idiot–I WANTED HILLARY and her competence. Not this current sh*t show that stooges like you have foisted upon us!
I’m not American so I never understood that show.
In any case, I’m glad this came out because it’s a good way to evaluate how many racist people are still trying to make the USA a place where only white christian males’ rights are valued.
Okay , the one thing I have learned from Donald Trump calling and congratulating Roseanne Barr for her ratings, is he’s good at watching television
Unpopular opinion but I’m really sad that this show has turned into such a political flashpoint.
I loved the original series. It was well-written and hilariously funny, with an excellent cast. Yes, Roseanne herself is crass and awful and I am not a fan of Roseanne the person, at ALL, but the show had an ensemble cast and I loved all of the different dynamics and relationships, especially between the sisters and the mothers/daughters. Some of the episodes are still, IMO, some of the funniest 30 minutes of television I’ve ever seen.
It was also extremely progressive for its time, in terms of LGBTQ storylines and characters, race relations, domestic violence, income inequality, etc. And as someone who grew up on the East Coast, I was just fascinated with the portrayal of a family and place so different from what I was used to.
Roseanne Barr was always gross and she’s definitely gotten crazier and far more offensive over the years since the original show ended. But this has now turned into a complete circus that is about everything except the actual quality of the show, a “Deplorables vs. Us” situation, and it’s just disappointing because I still have fond, nostalgic memories of the show. And I *adore* Laurie Metcalf.
I recorded the new one but haven’t watched it because I feel too ashamed after reading articles like this and the comments on here from people I respect and always agree with. I’m a bleeding-heart liberal who voted for HRC and think 45 is the worst thing to ever happen to our country. I loathe everything about him. And I don’t want to come across like the people whining about how “everything” has become about politics now and they can’t even enjoy awards shows or sporting events anymore. I don’t agree with that at all. And I come from a family of Democrats who all voted for Hillary so I don’t fall into that category mentioned by a comment upthread, about how this is a show for white people wanting to validate their vote.
I’m not really sure exactly what my point is! I guess I just didn’t realize until this week exactly HOW controversial this show would be. Should I feel guilty if I watch it? I am sick to death of the thinkpieces on Trump voters, yet at the same time I believe it’s not a bad thing if we try to listen and understand some of their reasoning. And I’ve read comments by people who are boycotting Roseanne yet they still watch The Cosby Show; they’re able to divorce an actor from his work.
I don’t know. I will probably end up deleting it because I don’t want to support her at this point.
ETA: One thing that has been driving me INSANE this week is the deplorables’ love and defense for this show, while conveniently ignoring the fact that Roseanne famously grabbed her crotch after singing the national Anthem. They get all worked up about football players taking a knee because THAT’S disrespectful, and they’ve all “forgotten” the crotch-grabbing? It is so hypocritical it’s almost hard to believe. At least there is a point to the kneeling; with her crotch-grabbing, which was beyond offensive, it was just some stupid stunt for attention. Yet the deplorables adore her now? Okay.
I think it’s been established that the deplorables are A-OK with p*ssy grabbing.
Well, maybe it’s because your whole family voted for Hillary and are all democrats? And you are white? Then lucky you. For me, I do not need to hear their views, or “understand” them or listen to them etc.
I have heard nothing but their screeching voices my entire life. I am surrounded by them.
So no, I don’t need another one, and perhaps the loudest, most unpleasant, shriekiest of all. They have been the loudest, most aggressive, even bullying, voices at every family dinner table I have ever been at. And where I live, though in NY, is actually Suffolk County and crazily enough, it’s Trump country alright, and I am surrounded by them outside too. I see their big stupid bumper stickers in my face every where I drive. I really feel like they are sticking their big smelly behinds in my face and saying “Sniff this!”
So please, no, hold the Roseanne, and I could care less about Metcalf. I enjoyed her in the past, she’s fine, but this very recent deification of her is a bit much IMO. She’s a capable actress, not the second coming. I don’t even know what her own views are. And frankly, it doesn’t matter. For that matter, what are Galeckis? Maybe too many of these MEGA millionaires are getting a pass from me. That’s really what I have taken from this whole episode.
@Darla I hear you, I really do. I’ve spent a lot of time in Suffolk County and the Trumpsters there are the absolute worst trash. All of the yard signs and bumper stickers all over were sickening to see. My friend’s child had a mock election at their school (a middle school) and 45 won by a landslide, so a whole new generation is growing up learning that he’s just great. It’s awful. People think of NY as so liberal but it’s really just the city and a few other blue pockets.
I mean…as consumers we need to make the decision about what we consume on a personal, case-by-case basis. I’m REALLY not into shaming people for supporting art that I choose not to because I recognize it as an individual choice, ya know? If you want to watch the reboot because you loved the original, then watch it. *shrugs*
Personally, I won’t be watching because it’s been ruined for me by Barr’s awful behavior. The show centers around her and her comedy so it’s virtually impossible for me to separate the actress from the character she plays. Additionally, the idea of normalizing Trump supporters just doesn’t appeal to me, given the current turmoil our country is experiencing because of their careless and callous vote.
Your comment reads like someone who is thinking aloud yet there’s an undercurrent throughout your paragraphs that feels like you’re asking for permission. If you don’t feel badly about watching the series, then I think you should go for it–no need to feel guilty. I will be giving it a pass and not because I feel shamed into it, but because I have virtually no interest in supporting this woman.
@Kitten thank you for this thoughtful response. : )
I posted this yesterday BEFORE I saw the photos of her dressed up as a Nazi with those vile cookies and that pushed me over the edge. I was extremely wary of everything about this new show to begin with and that was the final straw. Disgusting.
The ratings will be much lower next week. Not because Trump supports the show, but because the show isn’t good…the acting was horrible.
Why didn’t Trump call to congratulate Stormy Daniels on her ratings? More people watched Stormy than Roseanne.
Roseanne has clearly had a facelift of some kind, and I don’t really care. I just wonder why they left a wattle on one side. I mean, if you’re going to bother…
ETA: have never and will never watch this show
I have no understanding how anybody would willingly watch Roseanne.
Such trash and I’m not only talking about her low brow show.
It’s a sad commentary on where some parts of American society is at.
Being rude, obnoxious, cheap and trashy is the new normal for many people and most of them voted for the morally corrupt, ill informed, angry, lying, unqualified, bigoted, stupid, braggant and Russian owned Trump.
This is what happens when the uneducated and badly informed people vote in big numbers.
A lot of the media is also at fault for not properly vetting this world class liar before the election.
Roseanne and Putin. Says it all
Wanda Sykes is a head writer for the show. I love that woman. Still trying to wrap my mind around that …
There are a lot of comments on here about people who watched the show. I like Kitten’s civil, thoughtful comment to Lorelei above, and I agree with it wholeheartedly. I do want to add one thing, though, and it pertains to news, not comedy shows—be careful about tuning out voices you despise. I was a reporter back in the day, and one of the best pieces of advice I got from my editor was this: know all sides of the issue. So no matter how ugly Fox News is—and it is—I try to turn it on for a couple minutes after a big news day. (Best to do this with a glass of wine in hand, or whatever lowers your blood pressure.) I want to see how they and other right-wing media present the news. You can’t fight lies if you don’t know what the lies are. And you really do have to experience it directly; you can’t just read CNN’s interpretation of something said on Fox. It’s astounding—hell, it’s nauseating—how the right-wingers twist facts. Then I take my anger and disgust, and I try to find one thing, one thing big or small I can do this day or week or month to help fix the mess people like Trump and Roseanne brought upon us. And I’m going to keep doing that till those people are out of power. And off my frigging tv.
@nona
Very good point.
I do watch, listen and read news from various outlets, I don’t want to be stuck in my own bubble, but I refuse to contribute to the downward slide of our culture by watching trashy shows, regardless, if it’s a reality show or Roseanne or whatever it might be.
I can use my free time a much better way.
Rosanne isn’t just a Trump supporter. She is an insane Trump supporter. She is the scary type, who believe alt-right conspiracy stuff, iike that idiot Alex Jones.
I didn’t watch it. I read a lot of Roseanne’s crazy twitter comments or retweets and remembered how problematic she is in her beliefs. She’s nuts If she was just acting and including that believable plot line in the context of a balanced show, it would be different. But she’s telling Sean Hannity to DM her, because he wants her on. She’s turning this into a crusade for Trump outside of the show.
Sara Gilbert is the person that called everyone and pushed for this to happen. She is the executive producer. I guess I thought Roseanne was more involved in bringing it back. She was once Sara Gilbert got it off the ground. Sara wanted to get back into acting, so created her own job. Roseanne is the one who pushed hard to make Roseanne a Trump supporter, of course.
Roseanne has no consistency in her views. I think she has some sort of disorder or who knows. She chastised Angelina Jolie years ago in a tweet I think for not enthusiastically supporting Obama because of something like “your Black child might appreciate a Black President ever think of that?”
Even if she just has a hate on for Jolie – in general Trumpers wouldn’t think of things from that perspective.
I always thought of her tv family as working class Democrats, even liberals. I just remember how disgusted people were by her (I was a teen when the show started) …even then I felt like it was often over the top disgust just because she was fat and not feminine or “pretty”, etc.
I read her autobiography years ago – It was full of trauma. I think she is talented and intelligent but hated in that kind of way it is just so shallow that I feel it can make a person mean and stupid. Sad to see she’s come to this…. I always kinda liked her but no more.
You mean roseanne, who dressed up as hitler and ate burnt Jew cookies? Nah, no thanks, I’ll pass.
The thing is if it wasn’t for Barr’s Trumpian views I’d be fascinated by the possibility of the Roseanne character being called out on her contradictions.
The show in it’s original run may have been the most liberal on TV back then and the idea that Roseanne Connor now supports a man who, at his worst, is the literal embodiment of everything she once despised could be an interesting study of how people can genuinely forget their moral beliefs as they age.