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Last week pregnant Kat Von D posted a rambling story about how she was going to raise her child her way, including having a home birth, raising the boy vegan and not vaccinating him. One of these things is not like the others and could potentially put the populace at risk. Kat anticipated the criticism by claiming she’d done her homework, meaning she’d cherry picked internet sites that supported her decision and wasn’t using scientific studies, which show that vaccination is safe, effective and has no connection to autism. (Incidentally I’d like to mention again that showing anti-vaxxers photos of children with preventable diseases is more effective at changing their minds than pointing out that their sources are wrong.)
In that story I lamented the fact that I use Kat’s tattoo eyeliner, which retails for $20, makes a perfect line and is easily removable while magically being waterproof. I was half joking that I didn’t want to switch, but I will when it runs out. Thanks to those of you who recommended replacements by Stila and Physician’s Formula. I also use Kat’s Shade and Light palette, which is pricey at nearly $50. (I got it as a gift, and the lighter shades are running low. I’ve already replaced that with a Smashbox palette I got on sale which has eyeshadow, blush and highlight colors along with lipstick.) Kat’s sh-t is overpriced and there are dupes and cheaper replacements to be found.
Anyway I’m not the only one considering boycotting Kat’s makeup. Buzzfeed compiled social media posts which suggest that a lot of other consumers are considering the same. Here are some I found.
@Sephora TAKE OUT @KATVONDbeauty products! Nobody wants her getting the rest of us ill 😷 #KatVonD #antivax #stupidity #boycott #makeup
— Murry (@MJay_Cee) June 12, 2018
Boycott Kat Von D! @KATVONDbeauty #antivaxx #boycottkatvond pic.twitter.com/kdej9oO7uj
— Cecilia Tong (@Cecilia_Tong) June 12, 2018
Very very happy to boycott @KATVONDbeauty for her anti-vaxxer bullshit. https://t.co/0O9A8Ufmc9
— Angela Cuming (@AngelaCuming) June 10, 2018
For people that want to boycott @KATVONDbeauty: https://t.co/6MomLzxFrZ
— lynn (@lvnn_jpg) June 9, 2018
I donated what I would have spent on my next @KATVONDbeauty eyeliner to @gavi to provide access to vaccines in lower-income countries. #boycottkatvond pic.twitter.com/bgtNuUCGRx
— Allie MacLamont (@FireflyAllie) June 9, 2018
Kat’s spokesperson declined comment to Buzzfeed and Kat has not issued a follow-up to her post. I guess that means she sticks by her decision and isn’t going to say anything. Maybe if her bottom line gets affected she’ll back down. Maybe if she see pics of sick kids, or knows someone whose child got a preventable disease, she’ll change her mind. She’s so stuck in her little retro goth world that it’s doubtful though. Most of the comments on her latest Instagram posts are about the dangers of not vaccinating.
Also, remember how Kat dated Jesse James well after it was known that he was a neo-Nazi? Apparently her new husband, Leafar Seyer, has a swastika tattooed on his neck. He’s tried to explain it away as having a different “non-political” meaning to him. Forward.com compiled details of Kat’s anti-semitism, including an allegation by a former employer that she left him an anti-Semitic message and the fact that she named a lipstick Selektion, which is a German word used by the Nazis in concentration camps. Other controversial lipstick shades by Kat include Celebutard, which was pulled by Sephora, and Underage Red, which Kat defended and refused to stop selling. In her rant defending the lipstick, Kat wrote “I am the one responsible for naming every single shade.” I guess we know who picked the name Selektion then. There are so many other cool German words she could have used which don’t have that awful meaning. She’s so canceled.
KVD dated a Neo-Nazi, gave a hateful note to her Jewish boss, befriended a known racist, named one of her lipstick shades after a Nazi term, and is married to a man with a swastika tattoo. That's not a mistake, it's a pattern of behavior spanning at least a decade #boycottkatvond
— Anna (@itsannaright) June 12, 2018
photos credit: Getty, WENN and Instagram
So nobody else is boycotting her for being anti-Semitic?
Who could choose just one reason?
ETA: I had never actually bought any of her products because that whole tattooed look is not mine and I didn’t want dollars in furtherance of it. Fairly early on word of the “Celebutard” shade broke and I was never going to give her any money after that. I only just saw the Selektion lipstick called out by instagrammer @reneesanatomy a day or two ago.
@betsy I am confused by the first part of your comment. You didn’t buy it because you didn’t want to support a “tattooed” look? Did you mean her makeup looks like it’s tattooed on?
Betsy, Same as you, I’m not into the tattooed look either, and I like more natural-looking makeup. Kat Von D’s whole aesthetic never appealed to me, so I stayed away from it. Glad that I did, after reading what a horrible person she is.
I don’t like the tattooed aesthetic or her reality tv show lifestyle and so I did not purchase her products.
Same.
I never bought her stuff to begin with because of that.
Since the incident with Ami James, her former employer, I don’t buy anything from her. She’s awful.
I’ve never bought her make up …but why on earth wasn’t she boycotted after naming her malep “Selektion” ?! I’m so shocked by this. It’s so blatant. She’s truly awful. I feel very sorry for her unborn baby
She is awful and probably anti-semitic, but I actually have to laugh about all non-German speakers getting outraged about “Selektion”. It means exactly the same as selection in English. It was used before the Nazis and it continues to be used normally nowadays and literally nobody thinks about Nazis when saying it! Schokoladen Selektion (selection of chocolates), natürliche Selektion (natural selection in biology=where the Nazis took it from) or simply “die Selektion der Kandidaten” (selection of candidates). It doesn’t make much sense as the name of a make-up product, but it also doesn’t make sense to boycott a brand simply because one product is called Selektion.
However, in this context I can see, why that word was probably used as an allusion to concentration camps and I can see why people boycott her in general. Just wanted to set the record straight that Selektion is not some kind of bad word and everyone who uses it is a Nazi
@sundays
I agree but is HER history that makes the word a lot less innocent.
@magnoliarose yeah, as I said, in this context it’s probably a Nazi reference
Thanks for alerting us AND for giving alternate brands to choose instead. I’m almost out of liquid eyeliner and planned to try Kat’s liner. I will not buy it now.
Nope. No one cared. I sat around and watched and just shook my head. Her antisemitism was a whisper but OMG the vaccines possibly hurting someone THEN she got canceled. This is how it works for minorities. We know it from birth and we hear the messages nearly every effing day. Her rude “tard” was just a shrug. Nevermind the people who are parents of challenged children or have loved ones who are or ARE challenged themselves. Nope. *crickets*
That said I am GLAD that it is all being brought up and I am glad this is happening. But we need to start to see when a person makes a very dark ugly hurtful decision about bigotry that they are an awful person and they will do awful things. Not just in one category.
I just want to add that it does hurt when people continue to support someone like her. It tells me I don’t matter more than an effing lipliner.
Oh yeah…count me in on that. I stopped buying her sh!t years ago because of f this. She is abhorrent.
I have been, for years now. KVD is trash.
She is also a Satanist. Did you catch the aesthetics at her recent wedding? Just in case you are in any doubt.
That is the most likeable thing about her. Satan worship all you like, don’t be a racist antivax crazy fck though.
hahaha good call, Lex 🙂
She’s a complete ass and deserves all that is coming to her. I hope for her child’s sake that she gets her shit together and becomes a better person.
Didn’t she inject a whole bunch of Tox in her face????
like, give me/and your kid a break with this holier and thou bs.
It’s ok to inject yourself with a toxin for vanity, not ok to inject your son with a scientific proved experiment to prevent from death.
She’s trashy, I don’t know how she got to be a thing in the first place.
I know that as someone who had a stem cell transplant, for the last 4 1/2 yrs. I could not get vaccinated, even for the flu. I’ve had to rely on herd mentality for my literal survival (and believe me, there are a LOT of places I stayed away from). Presently, I have to revaccinate, and I still can only get *some* vaccines; I will have to rely on “the herd” for the rest of my life. Because of idiots like her, I may end up a recluse, or dead!
A LIVE CHILD IS BETTER THAN A DEAD CHILD BECAUSE YOU DIDNT VACCINATE!!!
Jan, I am so glad the transplant went well for you but boy, what a headache to have to worry about exposure to non-vaccinated people all the time! I really wish people would think more about who they are impacting when they decide not to vaccinate – it’s not just that individual child, it is every immune-compromised person. It is just so selfish.
The thing about the lipstick names has made me feel sick that I’ve ever spent money on her line. Disgusting.
I also have zero patience for uninformed morons pretending like they have ‘done their research’ and now know more than actual trained experts. Her anti vaccine opinion is NOT informed and she is WRONG. For her to say otherwise is dangerous and puts people at risk.
I hope she truly IS cancelled. Her make up line is good, but there are a myriad other options.
Exactly. People who work in medicine, pharma, research are vaccinated and vaccinate their kids. They’re the experts and would know the risks far better.
But Jenny McCarthy and KVD who are authorities on farts and anti-Semitism respectively are listened to for their uninformed opinions because “organic” and “all natural” are buzz words. Sure, Jan.
Vaccinate on schedule people. Do it for your children. Do it for your community.
Preach, Eliza.
@ELIZA HEAR! HEAR!!
I am a mother to two Autistic people. After their diagnosis we were admit that we would stay the course vaccination wise with our last child. I am 100% certain that getting our kids vaccinated had nothing to do with their Autism. What would be detrimental to their wellbeing would be getting an illness that could be preventable. And our third child doesn’t have autism either.
@Aims
Is there a good online resource to learn about autism spectrums? A long time ago I shared I have a cousin who has an autistic child and they are moving to the states. I want to learn how to interact with her and how to tell my children to be respectful and kind to her. I ask around but I don’t really understand.
Hi Aims, I agree with you. I have an Autistic child and a Cancer survivor daughter. They both are fully vaccinated and I would not hesitate to do it again the same way. Vaccines protect and do not harm your children.
Sorry I’m late. So as far as interaction with someone with Autism is basically they set the rules in regards to interaction. For example, my daughter, who is way more serious then my son. She has a huge problem with loud noise. It’s almost painful for her. So we have to keep everything at a low sound. I have also learned that physical interaction has ro be started by her. If I were to give my daughter a hug out of the blue, her body tenses up and ot could cause a meltdown. On the other hand, she is a brilliant artist. Her art is a form of communication for her. It’s almost a window into her mind and thoughts. With her talent also comes with a manic need to constantly draw. So we have to make sure ahe has breaks, otherwise she wouldn’t eat, or do normal things during the day. My son is way more mainstream then his sister. He’s able to work, drive and live a productive life. His only hang up is his communication skills. But he’s working on it and wants to live independently and make friendships. My recommendation is that don’t take the rejection or unsure on how to interact. They work at a slower speed, but I have learned that when I’m let into my daughter world, it’s amazing.
Also, a meltdown is a form of communication. It’s like saying,”ok, I’m at my limit please give me space.” Our baby(he’s 15, but our last) was confused why his siblings didn’t want to play with him. So we explained it as their brains are wired differently. With that he has a great sensitivity towards his siblings and anyone with special needs. And now that everyone haa grown and become adults, there is a deep love and friendship between them. My daughter refers to her brothers,” as my boys.” It was a hard road, but we came out on the other side. And we’re all better for it.
I’m so sick of these celebs not vaccinating their kids! What’s wrong with you?! Most parents would do anything to not see their kids sick, I sure hope she changes her mind on this. I have an immune compromised friend who can’t get vaccinations and relies on herd immunity to protect her. She caught the measles a few years ago, caught it from a friend of hers who hadn’t vaccinated their kids, they themselves were vaccinated as children. My friend suffered for weeks in the hospital and ended up miscarrying the child she was pregnant with at the time. The saddest, most preventable thing
Kay is an idiot, and apparently a racist as well, I won’t be buying any of her make up anymore.
As someone who studies history I wonder what the people of medieval times would think of these celebs that had a ‘magic serum’ to protect their children against diseases but refused to use them.
I’m from a country where vaccination is mandatory for kids, starting right after birth and you just can’t say “I won’t have it because (insert stupid reason)”, it’s the law because it’s not just about your child, but all the kids around it. Vaccines are science, it has been saving us from so many diseases for years, how many poor kids die in the world because of a simple vaccine and only a very stupid person (and in this case a very privileged one) would prevent their kids from getting protection.
Exactly. It just reeks of privilege.
I’ve always been a big believer in parenting decisions. I maybe wouldn’t choose to feed my kids nothing but organic food or tons of junk, but that’s your call as a parent. Breast vs. formula? Parenting decision. Cosleeping? Parenting decision.
The problem I have is that as you said, it’s not just about your child. Your right to make choices about your child ends where the rights of everyone else begin, and we rely on herd immunity to protect those kids and adults who can’t be vaccinated or for whom the vaccine didn’t work (for whatever reason). It’s a public health issue, and I wish the US would mandate vaccinations for everyone (except those medically exempt).
Also, can I just say that I hate when people say it causes autism or anything else. First, we know that’s not true, and secondly, are you really saying you’d rather bury your child than raise a child with autism? It’s just so offensive.
I wish it was only those celebs… Way to many regular morons don’t vaccinate either.
If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck it’s probably a non-educated,ignorant,hateful asshole.Us common folk have no other way to hurt them but with our dollars.
She’s a douche bag. I can’t between standing up for that sleaze bag that cheated on my beloved Sandy and the anti vaccine stuff. She’s a douche. Personal note, I had a premature daughter who couldn’t have her vax shots on the regular schedule. We were in an elevator with a kid who’s mother was anti vax. My daughter passed away shortly after. Go fuck your self, Kat and your “educated” opinions. What an asshole. Sorry celebitchies, for the rant.
I’m very sorry for your loss.
My heart goes out to you on the loss of your child. No one should have to suffer your pain.
Back in the 1970s when my older brother was first diagnosed as “brain damaged” (he was correctly diagnosed with Asperger’s Syndrome in 1990), people would routinely ask my parents if there was a vaccine for his condition so they could protect themselves and their kids. My parents never believed the Wakefield research; they knew almost from birth that my brother was different. So I find it unbelievably ironic at how far the pendulum has swung such that antivaccination beliefs are becoming more commonplace. And since I now rely on herd immunity, I – like you – am furious that these antivax fools care so little for their own children and fail to recognize how their inaction jeopardizes the lives of innocent people.
So incredibly sorry for your loss, VeronicaLodge. And I echo your sentiments about our beloved Sandy B!
My heart goes out to you Veronica.
So very, very sorry for your loss, VeronicaLodge. I can’t even imagine your pain. Sending you internet hugs {{{{{🤗}}}}}}
The root of anti-vaccination is the idea that a dead child is better than an autistic child. Full stop. The end. THAT is the bottom line there. And people who think that way are monsters.
But what about the toxins!?!?! /sarcasm
My pet peeve is when these anti-vaxxers say, “I’ve done my research.” Meaning, they’ve done a Google search. I am knee-deep in clinical research myself and it is a tedious, tiresome process where everything needs to be verified and double-checked by multiple committees, etc. These idiots are appropriating my struggle!
Preach! I dare them to come spout that offensive, self absorbed rhetoric around me and my family. I dare them. I’ll throat punch a swastika onto their neck.
Wendynerd, that’s what gets me, too?! You would rather your child die a slow painful death, while spreading disease…..than be a beautiful, loving child who happens to have autism?!?! Kills me!! Also, how many times do they have to show alllllll the facts that autism has NOT A THING to do with vaccines?!?!?! It’s getting so old.
Even if autism were remotely related to vaccines (spoiler alert: it’s not!), I have said many, many times that autism is a life sentence but not a death sentence. Failing to vaccinate your children kills.
THIS!!!
That is exactly my biggest problem. Every parent wants to see their child being healthy and happy going through life, so nobody wishes for autism, but an autistic child is not the worst, that you can get, you know, what I mean? A dead child, or a severely handicapped child, crippled by a preventable disease is the worst you can get. (just to make it clear, I do not think, that handicapped children or adults are the worst, but if you could have prevented an illness, and that is the outcome, that is the worst) #pleaseexcusemywordsalad
THANK YOU. My son has mild autism and it sickens me when people try to justify risking diseases that can kill or paralyze their children because they think that is preferable to autism. Ignorant a*holes.
Wow. When you phrase it like that…
I would add it’s pure narcissism and selfishness that puts their own child’s wellbeing over the wellbeing of every other child on Earth (although in reality they are putting their own child’s health AND every other child and immune compromised person on Earth’s health at risk).
Ugh you are so right.
Also there is a rash of conspiracies out there, especially post 9/11, and a lot of the basis of an anti vax argument starts out with big pharma is corrupt. Yes lots of things are corrupt (the US government for example) however that doesn’t invalidate the scientific benefits of vaccines.
I certainly do not trust big pharma. And I have worries about the ingredient in vaccine. But I have vaccinated both my kids because the benefits outweigh the risk. EVEN IF vaccines caused autism I would deal with a live autistic child than have a kid die from tetanus or measles.
Trusting big pharmas ….. i’m dying with laughter. I have been on anti depressants for 18 years. Can not withdraw from them. Then I find the latest inbiased (not paid for by the pharmas themselves) say excercise and a placebo is just as effective in treating mild to moderate depression. And read at johns wort or L Tyrptohan is more effective in treating depression. I have been stuck on this junk for nearly 2 decades.
I mean, yeah big pharma is corrupt… but that STILL doesn’t invalidate the scientific benefits of vaccines. Talk to anyone who studies or works in the public health field and you’ll hear the same thing. They all vaccinate their kids!
Oh my gosh!! I just read all this and will absolutely, without a doubt, go out of my way to NEVER buy another one of her products. I use her eyeliner(love it :/) and have a few other random thing from the Sephora line. NEVER again. I’ll actually throw the products out today. I am thoroughly disgusted by all of it!!
Stila All Day liquid liner is better
Thank you!
She’s always been awful, and I can’t understand why people would support her cosmetics line in the first place.
THANK YOU! Especially with the anti-Semitic stuff people have been brushing that under the rug for years smh. Glad to see that it’s now starting to affect her bottom line tho
Maybe they are like me and know nothing about her? I just knew she had tattoos, and so does my Father, so I would never judge someone for having tattoos. People at Sephora years ago said “This eyeliner is amazing!!” Slapped it on me and I loved it.
Oh I stopped buying her stuff then. That was around 2010ish though (I think) and I know social media was nowhere as widespread as it is now. This stuff just travels faster. Wasn’t a fan of the celebutard name either.
Read through the thread and you will understand. The efforts to NOT discuss the worst part of her history and behavior is obvious. Her anti vax problem is more acceptable to talk about.
That IS bad don’t get me wrong but not as much as a hate filled heart. She should have been gone a long time ago. Where was the outrage?
Before anyone says something they will regret like “but…but her anti vax opinion kills people” I will stop you. Hate does too and not just physically and it is far reaching and does more damage than her child could ever do over a thousand lifetimes.
Who the in the world dates a Nazi loving loser and then dates another with a swastika? Who?
Um, I would never support this woman even if she said she was going to vaccinate her child like he was a human pincushion. She is a terrible human being.
Yeah my instant thought is her past association with that James guy, AFTER all the nasty stuff about him was revealed. She’s not someone I would have ever supported, but possibly people weren’t aware.
Wasn’t Sandra still married to Him when she adopted? Either way, one major mistake of marrying a man with a dark secret is different from having a lengthy history IMO.
the man is different, she’s not with the motorbike builder anymore. Still chose another classy man, it seems.
Her views and actions on so many things are crazy. On the one hand it’s such a shame because her line is cruelty free and that sort of issue needs promoting more, but then she goes and does ridiculous things like that. In that insta post of her wearing the gucci glasses someone called her out as they aren’t cruelty free (I don’t know how true that is but if so it’s incredibly hypocritical).
I’m looking for foundation and was going to buy her lock- it but no way now. No patience for anti-vax nonsense. I want aware of her history of anti-Semitism as I don’t really follow her that closely. Thanks for the info folks!
If you wanted lock-it I’ve heard Urban Decay All Nighter is very similar! Maybelline Super Stay also stays on forever. Good luck!
I agree. I use the Urban Decay All Nighter and I love it and I don’t even like makeup.
Ooh thanks for the tips!
I was a huge fan of her makeup line, but I switched to All Nighter and I’m fine with it. It’s not quite as good, but damned close. I just need to find a liner as good.
She makes me sick. My husband has a genetic kidney disease that is going to lead to dialysis and a transplant. If one of these unvaccinated snowflakes came around my husband during dialysis or after a transplant, it could be fatal for him.
Anti-Vaxers are self indulgent idiots. If they want to get worked up about something they should investigate Endocrine Disrupting Chemicals, common in our environment and proven to cause cancer, obesity, reproductive problems and diabetes. The World Health Organization has put out papers on this. A legitimate health concern.
I have 2 or 3 pieces of her makeup but it was all given to me. I’m seriously considering throwing it away, as I don’t use it anyway. Glad I didn’t spend money to support this stupid woman.
Try giving it away to a women’s shelter or a place that receives old makeup to minimize the environmental impact! Especially if they haven’t been used I’m sure they would love to receive it
Yeah actually I have a lot of gently used or unused makeup that I should do that before it all expires
As someone who volunteers at a Crisis Shelter, I will second that. Please please please always considered donated like new or gently used items to a DV shelter, we are always in need of donations!
Great idea.
I’ve already emailed Sephora that I will no longer be purchasing KVD products from them or any retailer due to her links to anti-Semitism and stance on anti-vaccination which is a public health risk. Not vaccinating your child is a choice, yes, but just like drunk driving is a choice and a safety risk to everyone around you.
I also have a monthly beauty box subscription with Allure that actually partnered with KVD for their June box (every product with this month’s box is from her line). It’s already been shipped but as soon as I receive it I will be returning it to sender. I know this will ultimately leave Allure with leftover stock as they’ve probably already paid KVD for product months in advance, but hopefully they will get the message to stop supporting someone who is so grossly misinformed and using her platform to normalize idiotic and selfish ideas.
Oh man. KVD’s business partners must want to strangle her for this.
The makeup palette/swatches renamed after the diseases was funny lol. I’d like to see more of those.
I really hope this snowballs into Sephora eventually pulling the plug on her, but I’m not holding my breath. If anyone is looking for dupes on her products MUA on reddit and Temptalia have plenty of info to help make a switch.
I hope Sephora drops her makeup line too. It’s not good PR for them to be associated with her name.
I want to throat punch people that use “AUTISM” as the big bad, scary wolf excuse for not vaccinating their children. It screams of ableism and is offensive to autistic people. As if there is something inherently wrong with being neuroatypical.
Children are born with autism. Full stop. End of story. Children died of preventable diseases by the millions every year before vaccines were introduced. I will take a living child with autism over a child dead with measles any day of the week that ends in a Y.
And why did she feel the need to advertise her parenting decisions online and before the child is born? Heifer, you don’t know dammit about being a parent yet. You can have all sorts of cute ideas about parenting and then it gets REAL when that baby arrives and you have to parent a real life human being and not the fantasy child you created in your mind.
+1000000000000!
I haven’t decided if I’m going to boycott her brand. I have a lot of her products and they’re for the most part very good. I don’t support her anti-vax views at all but I’ve been a loyal customer so it’s a bit difficult.
It’s sad because her actions affect her whole team as well. She employs some amazing makeup artists and now I’m sure her one comment has caused her team grief. I do think her brand is hurting.
What’s kind of interesting is that I think she tried to do some pathetic damage control by posting a photo of a tattoo she did right after the pregnancy post. Then she followed it by a picture of her cats. And then a black flower from her goth garden. It seemed to say ‘well these are innocent reasons why you like me. There’s more to me than the anti-vax stance.’
Nice try, Kat.
Also, as a makeup artist, I recently signed up for her pro program. You receive a discount on makeup that I would use in clients. They told me it could take 4 weeks to get this discount and guess what, i received it only days after her Instagram post. Maybe it’s a coincidence but you can’t fake scarcity of the brand if it’s being negatively impacted by sales.
While her anti-vaccination stance is boycottable, what about her anti-semitic comments? Is that enough to get you to boycott her ?
so, you’re OK with supporting a bigot? putting money into the pocket of a person who thinks that Jewish folks are “less than”?
good to know that, for you, brand loyalty “trumps” civility and equality.
They mentioned that KVD gives a discount. Maybe that PRO discount is better than other brands and his/her livelihood (makeup artist) is tied to KVD. Maybe s/he can’t toss the products because it would mean dumping their whole kit.
Perhaps constructive words instead of a verbal attack on the person who posted the above would go further in explaining your opinions on KatVD. Pouncing on someone and attacking without reason never goes over well.
Followup to my first post – Go to the reddit thread CB featured to get feedback contact info. Below is the text of the messages I sent to all four of them – I hope it’s helpful to those who may want to do the same. Again, many thanks to CB for the great coverage of this story.
“I am aware that the views made by the public figurehead of a brand do not represent the views of the company, parent company, and individuals working for or with that brand. However, I cannot in any way support the Kat Von D brand, which allows a lipstick to be called ‘Selektion’ (a German word used by the Nazis in concentration camps) and whose creative lead is aligned with an anti-vaccination movement that threatens the well-being of those around her, including young children and those who cannot have vaccinations for health reasons. I will no longer be purchasing products from this brand and will be encouraging others to boycott it and any retailers that carry it. I will no longer feature this brand or any retailers who carry it on my social media and will mention these issues to those who do. Thank you.”
As someone who is allergic to certain vaccines, PLEASE VACCINATE I NEED THE HERD.
Everybody over here got you, boo.
Pretty sure I pointed out her anti-semetic past few months ago when she disqualified the winner of her contest for voting for Trump. But she was a hero then. So I’m going to say this for record “ROBERT DENIRO IS ALSO ANTI-VAXX”.
I remember all of that. Thank you for sharing this information. I think it’s important that we don’t cherry pick who we cancel based on the old adage, “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”. Group think isn’t going to help any of us. Someone can disagree with the policies of the current administration and still be a flaming pile of fecal matter.
The Deniro stuff broke my heart. I like him, I do, and I understand that his son has autism and maybe that’s his way of grappling with it, but it’s a very dangerous position for a public figure to take. I like that he said F Trump, but I don’t like that him and RFK Jr were on a morning show questioning the link between autism and vaccines.
I didn’t know about the anti-semitism, though it doesn’t surprise me. Her parents are argentinian, and many argentinians are very anti-semitic. I live with a constant urge to educate people around me (maybe I could throw a book at their heads).
She’s cancelled for me.
Celebitchy, there’s a NYX liquid eyeliner that’s supposed to be a dupe for the Tattoo eye liner, but actually BETTER. And it costs like USD5-USD7
Nazis were protected and hidden in Mexico and South America. I always pause when a South American, specifically Argentina, Brazil, and Paraguay have German surnames. Argentina has a very dark history of racism and violence.
It;s safe to assume Kat Von D is of germanic descent. Cause it certainly ain’t an argentinian name.
Aurelia – there is no such thing as an argentinian name. Is there such a thing as an american name? No. We’re mostly descended from Europeans and we carry their names, in their original language. I, for example, have a russian surname and it doesn’t make me more russian and less argentinian.
Those who belonged to different native peoples tribes were either given a spanish name after being forcefully Baptised, and a minority keep their original names, which are not argentinian either.
Magnoliarose – there are loads of argentinians with german surnames that are not descended from nazis, some are german-jewish, with no -n/-nn distinction int heir last names. Some came before WW2 exploded. And if some are descended from a german influx after the war, it doesn’t mean they were nazis or that their descendants need to carry that on their shoulders. The one thing I appreciate about my country is that it doesn’t matter where your great/grand/parents came from, if you’re born here, we are equal. It’s a social and cultural construct that not many immigration countries have. It’s something I didn’t see in the US, where I was actively targeted for being latin american but treated way better than mexicans and african americans. Of course we’re still a problematic country in the sense that we’ve been receiving so much uncontrolled immigration for the past 3 decades that a wave of xenophobia has risen. 35k venezuelans enter our country every month. We’re collapsing and not everyone is happy about the influx of foreigners coming and using our limited resources, especially when some come here to participate in crime (I’m not talking about venezuelans here… I consider them to be refugees and in need of asylum).
Hmm, I wonder if Jeffrey Star is gleefully rubbing his hands together about this whole thing with her receiving backlash?
Lol oh for sure. Jeffree Star has a lot of issues with anger control and straight up rudeness but at least his actions don’t put other people in real danger. I still don’t support him anymore, thought.
Sigh. Why do these idiots run their companies into the ground?
I’ve seen his rants that were saved and out on the gossip channels on You Tube. Dear God, does he have a temper and a mouth on him. He seriously comes after people if they do not share his platform.
Oh probably, but he’s equally as terrible too and will probably do something stupid to receive some of his own in due time. I will say that in my personal experience fans of Kat products overlap with Star products, so who knows he might be making a few more sales because of this 🤦🏾♀️
Sales, fame and money are the things he lives for…oh and drama too. I totally agree with you.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he is a source of the whispering campaign against her. She’s got some competitors/enemies.
I agree with you 100%!
The only thing good I can say about her makeup (which I’ve never purchased) is that it isn’t tested on animals. But it’s HELLA expensive.
The anti vaccination stuff is so scary. My mother is starting to believe stuff like this when she reads anti flu shot blogs. Not the same I realize, but it makes me grateful there were no crazy internet sites when I was a kid. Literally you are denying your child the tool that almost doubled life expectancy in the 20th century.
I think companies are paying more and more attention to boycotts. They seem to want to get in front of them now. Let’s hope this is the case with Sephora.
I think if people boycott her and her brand suffers as a result, she will use it to become a martyr for the cause. If she suffers a financial fallout and gives way, then she’s a sellout. Would have been way better off to keep her parenting views private.
I use her makeup and I’m undecided as to what to do.
@stephanie totally agree. Good point.
She’s an ANTI-SEMITIC RACIST…still undecided?
Maddening isn’t it? Like it is only Jews she hates. Once that is covered it is safe to say they hate everyone who isn’t a white Northern European Christian born type who is American born or white European enough to be accepted.
1. I am all for home births as long as one is near a hospital. As someone who had massive complications from both of my births, it is absolutely essential to have the ability to get to the hospital as quickly as possible. If she wants to do this, I’m okay with it. But she needs to rent a hotel room if her home is not within 5 min of a hospital.
2. I have no problem with a vegetarian diet for a baby. But a vegan diet is risky, especially in the first year. Babies need to get iron, B12, iodine, fatty acids and such to thrive. They are huge energy burners and need energy rich foods.
3. The vax thing is idiotic and stupid and dumb. I hate people who play philosophy with the health of their babies.
Yeah, she really is scummy. The whole anti-vaxx thing seems to swallow two types of people: the celebrity nit-wits who believe in new age and aliens and also the wannabe hip idiots.
I will also add a third category, conspiracy nuts who question everything. And this encapsulates Republicans and Democrats, since I’ve seen some very right wing anti vax who may just think Obama himself is using vaccines to control the deep state.
Got measles from an non-vaccianted child when I was a few weeks old as a newborn. The result, measles destroyed the tissue on my lungs. Developed a large tumor, spots on the lungs with constant pneumonia & bronchitis as a child…etc. My mom found an amazing Doc who finally helped me heal but even as an adult I still have delicate lungs susceptible to infections. I almost died because of measles at a young age, my parents were forced to move and the medical bills almost ruined us. Over ONE non-vaccinated kid. Honestly think parents not vaccinating their kids should be sued if another kid gets sick from their poor choice (if they pass on a contagious disease prevented by vaccines, sue them and make them pay the medical bills of the sick child.
Isabelle, your experience is my worst nightmare now that I am reliant on herd immunity (thanks, cancer!). I also see nothing wrong with suing antivaxers who deliberately fail to warn people of their stupid decisions and infect others.
I’m so sorry bearcat, sending out a universe blessing. Wondering if there have are pending or settled lawsuits and if so how they were handled/judged by the jury? My parents ended up +$100,000 in debt over it.
I have an aquaintance who is now a staunch anti-vaxxer and it has been so disturbing seeing her posts on FB move from concern about vaccines to posting articles which argue that measles isn’t actually that serious (O RLY) and that herd immunity isn’t real (OH OK). I’d love to hear her explanation as to why there hasn’t been a recent polio outbreak.
The entitlement is incredible. Fine, don’t vaccinate your kids, but keep them away from the public. And she truly does seem to believe that people wanting to keep their kids away from her potential disease carrier is some kind of prejudice. It’s wild.
Ugh, it just makes me so angry.
Let me guess…your acquaintance WAS vaccinated and thus able to live to adulthood. The mental gymnastics of the antivax brigade are Olympic gold.
Yeah really. It is sickening.
Well, you can post articles too. Right now there is a Polio outbreak in Venezuela; the last known case was 30 years ago. POLIO, ffs.
https://www.economist.com/the-americas/2018/06/16/polio-returns-to-venezuela-and-threatens-the-region
Much as I feel anti-vaxxers are idiots who rely on herd immunity and that KVD is wrong on this, I absolutely love her makeup and will not boycott. I also don’t believe the other claims made about her.
They aren’t “claims”, they are fact.
i know of people who have swastika jewelry or tattoos. i personally think they do it for attention and provocation. they defend it by saying it is a Navajo whirling log. my opinion on that is: bitch you’re not navajo but you are white so if you’re wearing a swastika you’re a nazi.
@Lizzie, I wish I could “like” your post.
I can’t with people that pretend to be pseudo-intellectual with their “the Nazis appropriated the symbol…” They did and they did it successfully, so when you use it, you’re identifying yourself as a Nazi (or at the very least, as someone who is okay with being identified as a Nazi so long as we also know you’re a pompous idiot).
I have thought about the anti-vaxx thing each morning as I put my eyeliner on. This is the first item of hers I’ve purchased and I really love it, but I think that I’ll switch back to my handy ol’ Clinique after this. It is pretty much as good and only 2 dollars more.
I had been wanting to buy some of her lipstick. I got a tube as a sample and it is just the best wearing lipstick ever, and I love her color selection, but jeeeeeeeez. I didn’t know about the anti-Semitism. This chick’s way too problematic. I’ll put my money elsewhere.
Oh man if ever there was a time for an emergency Csection and a collicky baby….She’s a first time mom to the max.
*I’ve had both an emergency csection and a collicky baby and I realize it’s mean to hope this happens to her.
It’s not you, kellyrae, it’s karma:)
kat, just make the neo nazi dream girl calendar and retire already.
There was a massive thread on Reddit’s MUA community on how to return one of her latest pre-orders. It was glorious.
I find it hilarious that people will boycott over this yet nobody talked about boycotting the movies that all of the sexual predators have been a part of. Vaccination this far is still a choice so deal. That said, she should have just kept it private. It’s not worth all the misinformed backlash.
I used to purchase her lipsticks as she is cruelty free then I found out her parent company is not. Neither is Smashbox parent company. PUR Cosmetics is – should anyone care so is Butter London.
“Selektion” is not a problematic (or taboo) word in German.
Her intentions weren’t to teach German she meant it as a Nazi salute. A Nazi loving witch like her means it no other way.
I really doubt that. It is a German word that if often used for purposes not related remotely to Nazi anything. You cannot demand that ppl don’t use the word. And yes half my family is Jewish in case you accuse me of having some kind of bias. I don’t defend her or support her but don’t continue to give that word power it does not hold. It was a word before the Nazis and still is.
FYI, did you know that Polio (yes, POLIO) is back in the Americas? There is an outbreak in Venezuela. Polio is back in Venezuela 30 years after the last known case and it is spreading.
30 years.
SMH.
OMG! I just saw those news! and they took almost a month to notify the international health authorities. I hope they contain it I know people who bear the physical consequences of polio, it is horrible, and still they got to live.
I just love how first-time mothers like Kat Von D who have never had a baby before suddenly know everything and think that they are in control of how they will give birth and raise their baby. Those of us who have been through pregnancy and childbirth and child rearing know that you can make all the plans you want but when the time comes, you really don’t know shit about anything. Go ahead, make your water-birth, doula, vegan, anti vaccine plans. We all know that at least 50% of that is gonna go sideways.
I wanted a water birth for my second daughter with a midwife. I ended up almost giving birth to her on the toilet in a public restroom because my water broke at the mall and I waited too long to go home.
Make your plans, honey. Hopefully reality will humble you a bit.
Also – Kat Von D has always been pretentious but doesn’t it seem like ever since she got with this guy it’s just gone way beyond her usual dipshittery?
I do not use her make up or follow her, but have all of these allegations been proven? These are some serious accusations and I don’t understand if people already knew all of this why would they purchase her make up in the first place? Why does the anti vaccination send people over the edge?
She strongly denied sending that letter to her former boss and I do believe it was proven the handwriting was not hers. He claimed she did it and it was a he said she said thing. Her ex has denied being a nazi or nazi sympathizer and says he only collects the artifacts. I think that is weird but having a collection does not make one an anti-semite. I an not defending her in the least and also plan to no longer purchase her products but calling her a neo nazi is shaky at best. The husband explained the neck swastika tattoo as having esoteric meaning–which is does. It is an ancient symbol that the Nazis stole. The guy also has the star of David tattooed on him so I dunno. I think she simply thrives on being considered weird and avant garde but doesn’t realize she seems like an ignorant fool instead.
Kat’s husband also has a Star of David tattoed on his neck, a Jewish symbol. For whatever it’s worth, his swastika tattoo is not of the inverted Nazi version; the swastika symbol goes back thousands of years, and the non-inverted version actually stands for very positive things. Not condoning swastikas in any iteration, as the ancient symbol has of course been beyond corrupted. I just think it’s important to note these details when painting someone as allegedly anti-semitic.
Everyone knows about the origins of swastikas because it’s the first thing dbags who do this spout. He knew exactly what he was doing with it.
Wrong. If you into esoteric circles, the symbol has ZERO connection to nazis. It was stolen by Nazis and is extremely ancient in origin. The nazis perverted it. He does indeed also have a star of david. I doubt an anti-semite would tattoo a star of david on himself. Not only that, he is Mexican and that right there would cancel him in neo nazi groups. Again, not defending either her or her husband but there is not a shred of solid proof they are neo nazis.
I met a Mexican neo-nazi in Guadalajara. These individuals tend to be deeply stupid and ignorant.
So glad to see ppl now realizing how insane the anti-vax thing is. I will not be repurchasing her products that I own either. With her militant vegan beliefs and the anti vax stuff, I refuse to support her or her brand.
well, crap. i actually didn’t know about any of this before reading about her anti-vaxx thing here.
i’ve been considering her liquid lipsticks as a replacement for my jeffree star liquid lipsticks whenever i run out because i saw one too many clips where he was rude evil nasty, and i saw a clip where she was addressing him and she seemed decent thoughtful human, regarding him anyway, and i figured i’d pick something from the nude line of her lippies when the time comes because the colors look really good and i like liquid lipsticks but it seems so hard to find decent ones that don’t dry lips out or feel crusty. (yes, this is how much i think about makeup ;))
now that’s out, guess i’ll have to move on entirely.
(now, bobbi brown’s new “crushed” glossies? hm. -it’s not as hard as all that to move on ;))
As a longtime lurker, this post compelled me to write to Sephora. Please feel free to copy my words and submit this to them too (I just used their Contact Us on their site)!
As a long time customer and very loyal VIB Rouge, I am writing to express that I am deeply troubled over Sephora’s continued support of Kat Von D Beauty. She is a known anti-Semite, associates with known racists and bigoted individuals (most recently her marriage to a man with a Swastika tattooed on his neck), and has even named one of her lipsticks “Selektion,” a word used by murderous German Nazis. This is horribly offensive to millions who continually suffer under the agenda of ‘white supremacy’ in the United States and throughout the world. Also, her thoughtless promulgation of the anti-vaccination movement is a harmful and dangerous myth that will put many people in life-threatening danger if not shut down appropriately. I am all for ‘Wellness’ and LOVE using natural products, but I also know the importance of modern medical advances. Please stop stocking, marketing, and associating your brand, which purports to be inclusive, with the retrogressive Kat Von D Beauty.
Thank You.
Her racism is even more evident by her hypocrisy. She denied her Mexican heritage for years. Now she’s using it to sell more lipstick, and even writing posts in Spanish. She makes me sick.