Well, it was probably inevitable. Meghan Markle’s father Thomas Markle sold her out for months. He worked with a paparazzi agency to pose for photos, and I still believe Thomas took home a tidy sum, despite his denials. Then he was still asked to walk his daughter down the aisle, and he had to call up TMZ multiple times a day to give them updates on his state of mind. He ended up canceling on his daughter and then he continued to give TMZ updates for days, even weeks. It was my hope that Thomas and his side of the family would all crawl back under their respective rocks. It was my hope that the British press finally had enough of humiliating Meghan by interviewing her relatives. I was wrong. Thomas Markle did a TV interview – his first – with Piers Morgan this morning. And it’s awful. It’s all an awful headache. Some highlights/lowlights:
Thomas Markle described his sorrow about pulling out just three days before he was due to walk his daughter down the aisle because of heart surgery and admitted he was jealous but grateful that Prince Charles stepped in. Meghan sobbed when he told her – and he cried as he watched his ‘beautiful’ daughter marry in Windsor on a small colour TV: “She was beautiful. I cried a little watching her. I was very proud and I couldn’t see a better moment in my life. The whole world was watching my daughter. The unfortunate thing now is that I’m a footnote in one of the greatest moments in history instead of a dad walking his daughter down the aisle. It was a very emotional moment. I regretted it because I really wanted to walk her down the aisle. But I’m thankful for how it all went.”
He also gave millions of viewers a blow-by-blow account of his private conversations with Meghan and her new husband and revealed he calls his daughter ‘bean’ because she loved Jack and the Beanstalk as a child. His most controversial comments came when he revealed that Harry confided in him that he is ‘open to Brexit’ and also believes controversial President Donald Trump should be ‘given a chance’.
Mr Markle also spoke freely about his daughter’s desperate wish to have children and said although she is not pregnant he expects the couple will have a baby ‘in the making very soon’. He is yet to meet his new son-in-law, who asked for his daughter’s hand in marriage on the phone last December, to which he replied: ‘You are a gentleman, promise me you will never raise your hand against my daughter and of course I will grant you my permission’. He added today: ‘Yeah he’s a prince but my daughter has been a princess since the day she was born’.
Mr Markle was paid a ‘few thousand pounds’ for the tell-all interview with Good Morning Britain and Meghan’s father chose to do it because he wanted ‘set the record straight’, host Piers Morgan revealed afterwards.
I’m including a video clip below, the part where Thomas makes up some dumb bulls–t about Harry telling him to give Trump a chance, and that Harry shared his thoughts about Brexit with him. Utter horses–t. And it’s clear that Piers Morgan had coached Thomas Markle on what to say, Piers is practically holding the script up for Thomas to read. I continue to feel sorry for Meghan, and I continue to wonder why the British press seems so hellbent on giving these awful people a platform. That being said… Kensington Palace has had a bloody month to lock down Thomas Markle. This interview shows that either Thomas Markle has “gone rogue” and will continue to go rogue from now on, or it shows that the KP staff and Poor Jason still don’t know WTF they’re doing.
Photos courtesy of screencaps/ITV and Pacific Coast News.
Her fathers a narcissist, he’s more concerned about being a “footnote in history” than being a loyal father who doesn’t throw his child to the media wolves. As if she needed more bs for the racist to enjoy beating her over with, ugh Thomas Markle is an arsehole.
A footnote? He wishes!
He’s a stain…. a skidmark actually
Thankfully Meghan got her mother’s looks, too.
IKR? There’s practically no resemblance there, at all.
He’s more concerned with being a footnote in history than anything else. Why does he think he would be more than a footnote? If he were truly chagrined he would set an example by not giving interviews. He can’t control her two moron siblings but he doesn’t have to participate in the spectacle.
Something is mentally wrong with this guy. “Greatest moments in history” really??? You mean like the moon landing and the discovery of the smallpox vaccine and the invention of the wheel? Oh no, wait, you meant the time an pleasant but basically unemployed guy that is sixth in line to a declining monarchy married a pretty actress? Please clarify why this is one of the “greatest moments in history?”
Exactly and well- said. There is something very wrong with man and I’m surprised no one at Kensington Palace has got him on lockdown at this stage.
You can’t “lock down” someone like this man. He’s not even a British Citizen, and NDAs aren’t going to stop him from talking. Only common f***ing sense and love for his daughter – which, from him, are BOTH clearly trumped by money.
I have said it before, I don’t think he is the full quid.
He doesn’t seem to have lost any weight since his heart op. Everybody I know who has had treatment lost a tonne of it.
Yes – it’s all about him and how he feels. Not a word about the pain and embarrassment he caused his daughter.
Can you imagine the outrage if he was black and doing all this?
LOL. This guy is no credit to his race
Completely agree. Full-on arse-hole. Embarrassing – I would be horrified if my father acted like this and spouted to the press for money. Ugh.
Now waiting for Trump to invite him to the WH and they can take pictures together in MAGA hats. This guy is a complete a$$ and is very much a racist as is the rest of HIS family. There’s no paying them off, they’ll always want more. It’s the damn media’s fault for paying so maybe that’s who the Royal Family can go after. Air him & his family then you will forever be shunned.
And he thinks that “raising a hand” to Meghan is the worst thing that could be done to her? How about the fact that her FATHER IS SELLING HER OUT. Dang. There’s no way to heal these wounds.
I believe nothing that whoring sellout of a “father” says. Nothing. His words are always bought and paid for, and this is not the first time he has made clear that his primary regret at missing his own daughter’s wedding was that he missed *a chance to be part of history.*
News for ya, Tom, you’ll get your wish and then some: As far as a lot of us are concerned, though you may not be a PART of history…you ARE history. Buh bye.
That’s the comment that got me the most. It’s about him and a pity party. Just ugh.
Make this man disappear and take the vile Piers Morgan with him….
It has been confirmed that Thomas Markle was paid for this interview. I’m sorry but this man is pure garbage
Yes. The only way to lock this guy down is to offer him more money to keep his mouth shut than he gets paid to sell out his daughter. It’s so sad.
The guy is clearly looking for a payday and doesn’t care that he is ruining his daughter’s life. He must be very angry at her too for this level of acting out. He and his kids are a total embarassment for the US.
Exactly, you can’t force someone to be decent and I don’t think I’d pay him a dime. He can continue to show the world his true colors. I doubt he would honor an NDA and then what? They’d have to sue him and the people who support his nonsense would just come out and say how “mean” Megan is and how suing her poor sick father is affecting his health.
He would take the money and be yapping five minutes later.
I think paying him would be a bad move. You could offer $100,00 today, but then he will want $200,000. And so on, and so on.
And to think most people saw no problem with Thomas staging photos for money with the Daily Mail. Expect more of this BS. I would say he will ruin his relationship totally with his daughter. Like in about 3 seconds time.
I agree with everyone else on this. Trying to pay him off would just keep him around for decades to come. If he’s going to talk, he’s going to talk regardless of loyalty or fear of breaking contracts. Maybe best course is to just let him burn up all his credibility early on, and let people get tired of his BS. Then the tabloids/media won’t offer him $ or at least not as much.
Right? The whole story is garbage. As if Harry would discuss politics with a man he has never met, especially about these controversial subjects. Also, Meghan openly loathes Donald Trump, no way her husband would tell him to give trump a chance.
Kensington palace should issue a statement denying everything he said in the interview, followed by Meghan cutting him off.
Thomas Markle is a liar, but why would people be utterly shocked that a spoiled Prince would support Trump or be right wing? It makes sense.
@ Brrrrapow
Nope….that doesn’t make sense. Why would said right wing, trump supporting prince be so chummy with Obama, and be marrying a mixed race woman?
It’s fsr more likely he’s the opposite.
Even our most right wing people in the UK don’t support Trump.
The “some of my best friends are…” fallacy? A known racist needing a PR win?
And plenty of Brexiteers support Trump.
He’s already proved to be a liar.
Frankly, if he said Harry told him he likes to eat apples, I wouldn’t believe it.
You can support Brexit and not Trump.
I think the Royal Family are politically conservative and right wing. I can see them being pro-Brexit all the way (but then they’re completely insulated from any economic fall-out). The Queen has apparently said in private that she supports Brexit which was reported by the BBC in 2016.
As for Trump, I view PH’s comments as being neutral.
But PH is a fool if he did discuss politics with Mr Markle.
“The “some of my best friends are…” fallacy”
@BrrrapPow
How about the fallacy:
“a spoiled Prince would support Trump or be right wing? It makes sense. ”
Talk about sweeping assumptions!
Even IF Harry was say “conservative”, that wouldn’t mean he’d be right-wing. And when speaking of conservatism, there’s a range of conservative philosophy across the globe as well as with in a single country. What ever his family or his personal world views are, he appears to be more complex than what you can offer.
Why can’t the royals pay him off and make him sign NDA?
No one would have to know….
Milla, then they would have to “pay off” the following:
Vonnie
Tom Jr.
Uncles ×2 (at least)
Cousins (too numerous to mention individually)
Nephews x2 (at least)
Tom Sr’s friend (L)- woman who drives him around & he spends time with her & her daughter…
The list goes on…
Tom Sr. & Vonnie work in tandem…Tom Sr. is not naive…
NDAs would not work. The Markles do NOT have the kind of money where you can sue if they talk.
And they would breach them anyway the minute someone offered them so big payout to talk.
And if you pay them off, they’ll just keep coming back.
Frankly, I hope someone is gathering enough evidence to haul them all into court for extortion. If such a thing can be done . . . .
I get its not an easy job. But this is brf. They can make anyone shut up. They’ve been doing it for 1000+ years.
KP literally has no idea how to deal with this. And that family won’t shut it. I just don’t think it’s healthy for a marriage, especially when hm have kids… What a mess.
@Milla They can make people in BRITIAN shut up. The Markles are Americans. They have no deference to The Crown or the BRF. No institutions in America do.
Now, at some point hopefully someone can stop the British TV Reporters and tabloids to stop giving the Markles money to talk. Because, again, aside from hauling them into court, that is the only other thing that would stop them.
Unfortunately they can’t “make him” do anything.
They should just send one of Trump’s mafia goombahs to Thomas’s house and that would be the end of it!!!
I think it would be better to make loyalty worth his while. If I were Meghan I would buy dear old dad a nice little beach house or condo in Rosarito. I read that Meghan’s grifter sister set this interview up, and if that’s true than it means she has way too much influence over him–and Meghan clearly doesn’t have enough. Meghan should try to tether her father to her as much as possible – there is no better tether than a deed imo.
Piers Morgan is such a troll. I agree that there is no way Harry would have discussed politics with Markle. Now Harry is in the awkward position of having to refute his father in law.
He doesn’t have to refute his father in law. But he does need to stand up for his wife. I would declare the entire family no contact except the mother and let the entire world know it. Then any claims that butt makes about quoting the royal family will be immediately known as lies.
Just when I thought the Markles had shut their traps. He has a lot in common with his ridiculous son and daughter, cut from the same cloth sadly, and Meghan knows this. This episode will eventually pass by, surely the Markles can’t have any more stories, ….oh wait we still have Sad Sam’s book.
As to whether the Palace should have taken this man under their wing, who knows it might have even made things worse, people like the Markles will always talk, and it might just have given him a bigger story to sell if the Palace had involved him more.
Don’t believe everything Mr Markle has said, given his track record on telling the truth. Firstly, Harry did not actually say whether or not he supports Brexit, and he also did not say whether or not he likes Trump. The main conclusion to draw from this is that Mr Markle is not to be trusted.
Piers Morgan is an utter disgrace and has no shame, watching the interview it is very clear that Mr Markle is not in the best of health and is a vulnerable man easily seduced by cash. They stuffed the poor guy in a smart suit and shirt only to ridicule him before millions of people around the world. He has been set up again and during the interview you could see that he was looking at someone in the room to check if he was saying the right thing. Pathetic. Meghan knows her father.
@ Princess K:
I was listening to Omid’s Scobie’s after wedding podcast (I’m under the impression he is pretty credible), who said that apparently, the Palace started offering TM help from the moment the relationship became public and he steadfastly refused the help, claiming he could handle things himself. Which is what made all the pre-wedding drama even more galling.
Why refuse the help when you know you clearly need it? Pride?
Where do you think his other children learned it?
Apple, tree.
It’s also worth noting that the interview was done by Piers Morgan, the former “friend” of MM. He’s been crying to the rags for months now that they were “friends” (read: he messaged her cause he was a fan, she would send him Suits episodes early – or so he claims, they met once) and how she ghosted him when she got serious with Harry. Well, I guess he’s done whining about it now, realized she won’t respond (hmm maybe cause you described your entire conversation minute by minute in the Daily Fail) and is trying to squeeze as much out of his “royal connection” as possible in any way he can think of. He’s always been trash.
What an ass…….
He makes Kate’s shady uncle Gary look like the epitome of class and discretion.
So do people still believe that Thomas Markle is just a poor old man who is overwhelmed? Or is it finally obvious that he is just as much of a snake as his two older children?
The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. Meghan is all her mother and those two are all her father, greedy opportunistic and vengeful.
Anyway get the vibe, that Marks Sr was trying to take a few hits at Harry, I mean the “don’t hit my daughter”, and Brexit and Trump shit.
And all Piers Morgan, who is having his life, cos Meghan swerved him.
Piers Morgan is beyond vile. They’ve used TM’s desperation not to embarrass his daughter to exploit him (in many ways).
I just don’t see him as some calculating monster, I just think that between his vile daughter Samantha and the collective might of the paparazzi and tabloids, he’s been completely outwitted and outmatched.
They’ve set various traps for him and he’s fallen into a number of them. Look at Piers Morgan for instance, pressing him on Harry’s political views, *knowing full well* that regardless of what he said, one way or the other, he would be creating an absolute shitstorm for Harry. Thomas on the other hand, clearly has no idea. It wouldn’t even surprise me if Piers encouraged him to talk specifically about Harry’s politics because it would make Harry look better.
TM (in my view), was carefully coached to say as many damaging things as possible, but he doesn’t know enough about the subtleties of UK culture to see the traps.
The whole interview was so pitiless and exploitative it nearly brought a tear to my eye. I’ve never liked Piers Morgan, but after this, he and GMB are on my shit list for all of eternity.
@Bella Dupont….spot on! Markle Snr has been duped again, for the sake of money that will run out in no time, the whole world is now left in no doubt that the man is a complete fool. Piers Morgan is abominable, I wonder how his family can live under the same roof as him. Piers has had downfalls before and I think another one hopefully in imminent.
@ Bell, TM Sr. Doesn’t know how vicious the media can get but as they say fool me once. Head already got burned by the staging of those pictures. If he didn’t learn from his mistakes then the blame is all on him. As much as I despise that vile maggot Peirs Morgan, I have to hold TM Sr. Accountable. By now, he should know that no media person is on yr side, so DO NOT TALK TO ANY OF THEM as anything you say will be twisted and used against you and your loved ones. TM makes the choices to continuously be in contact with the media, that’s on him. This is no longer him being taken advantage of, it him choosing to make a quick buck off of his daughter, he needs to be held accountable for his sleezyness.
Not to mention the fact that by this point, Meghan must have REPEATEDLY made it clear to him that she doesn’t want him to talk to the media at all, yet he continues to ignore her wishes for his own personal gain. Even if you’re the most media-savvy person on earth, how can you keep twisting the knife into your own daughter like that?
Lol seriously. I understand why people wanted to see him as a bumbling naive man, but surely he has proven by now that he is not. The man is an opportunist. He was staging photos again not too long ago too. Getting a haircut with the barbershop door open, really? He is the worst.
I think comments on Brexit and Trump were probably some kind of condition for the payday, maybe he got more for claiming to know how Harry feels about those things. But I think it’s absolute nonsense. Why would Harry discuss Brexit with this old American ex-pat living in Mexico? Why would that ever come up in their brief conversation? Royals of all people know not to discuss politics because it is rude, and it’s inappropriate for them to do so. He’s a liar and user.
Him running off to talk to TMZ about pulling out of the wedding should have told everyone what he was about frankly. You don’t go to TMZ if you are bumbling and dumb wrt the press. Plus, the guy worked in the entertainment industry. He won Emmys.
People who are buying his bumbling naive man routine just make me roll my eyes at this point.
@ Morrigiano
I’m still firmly in the bumbling, completely outwitted old man camp, I’m afraid.
If you’re British, or follow them as a matter of interest, you know *instinctlively* the things that will get you completely blackballed:
1) Talking to the press about them without prior/express permission
2) talking about them in anyway but the most vague, generic terms (if at all)
3) alluding to their Political persuasions in any way
4) See 1 again
If this man had been British, he would have not only understood this, he would also have been closely coached/Hidden away to allow BRF control the narrative completely.
That wasn’t possible in this case and so the old man stood against the worlds paparazzi, tabloids and press, thinking he could withstand the pressure. In the end, he couldn’t and was outsmarted, outwitted and outmatched.
JMHO.
@Bella DuPont
Honestly? I don’t think you have to be British to understand not going to the press and yapping because the BRF don’t like it. I think the main difference though is that the American press (with the exception of TMZ and likely Inside Edition) don’t pay for interviews.
None of the Markles talked to the American Press, except for TMZ and Inside Edition – the two places that pay. Naiveté about the press would have been going on Fox News or talking to the LA Times. However, when it came to their home country, they went to the news outlets that paid. And there are WAY less of them here in the US that do that than in the UK.
BTW, even though it’s been stated more than once that no interview with Doria by Oprah is happening, I wasn’t too bothered by the idea because Oprah doesn’t pay for interviews either.
Anyway, this is why Samantha, Tom Sr, and Tom Jr. have been all over the British Press, but not the American Press. Because they British Press will give them a payday for it. Good Morning Britain gave Thomas Markle 40,000 pounds for that interview today. Whereas, if he’d gone of the American equivalent – Good Morning America – he wouldn’t have been paid a dime. So it’s pretty much been next to nothing of the Markles in the American media.
So no. I in no way think these people are naive, including Thomas. He could have gotten “his side of the story” out without a paycheck. But every time he decided to do so, he went to people that pay – in the US as well as the UK.
If Tom Sr. and the rest of the Markles are naive about anything, it’s thinking they can grift the BRF. The ONLY money they’ve gotten out of all of this is from the British Press. And that is the only money they will ever get.
He’s not bumbling, this is a man who worked in the entertainment industry. He knows what he’s doing. And I know 73 sounds ancient to some young uns, but it’s really not 😂.
“He could have gotten “his side of the story” out without a paycheck.”
I hadn’t even considered this, but you’re so right — if that was all he wanted, he could have just uploaded a heartfelt video to YouTube and tweeted it out or something. Clearly, it was never about “setting the record straight,” it was always, and only, about money.
Don’t worry, some of us called it from the beginning. Narcissists like Markle love to play victim. That’s how he is fooling otherwise smart people into thinking he was “duped.” He wasn’t duped. He wants the money, it’s all about him, and that’s where it begins and ends in his mind.
And if he’s a vindictive person, he also wants to hurt his daughter out of jealousy and spite. Don’t believe me? Ask yourself why he is putting the image of Harry hitting his daughter into the minds of people? Why is he making specious claims about Harry’s politics, claims that go in the opposite direction of his daughter’s ardent beliefs? What a slap in the face.
Yes, there are some truly rotten parents out there. Looks like Markle and his kids are birds of a feather.
Exactly.
@BEEBOP, right? Like why would he even think Harry would-be physically abusive towards Meghan? Was Trevor abusive? Why of all things would he warn Harry against hitting Meghan? This is do bizzare!!.
@Bella DP, I jumped off the “he’s being taken advantage of” wagon. Mr. Markle is only 72 years old, he is not 99. At 82 when my father passed away, he was still working as a construction engineer, and had all his faculties about him and made all the decisions about both his life and what he wanted to be done with his estate in the event of his passing, he was 82 which makes him 10 years older than this guy. This man lives on his own in Mexico, lives off of his pension with no one else but him managing his life. He has all his faculties about him. He stated once that he lives frugally by choice, not because he doesn’t have money to live lavishly. These media incidences have happened numerous times, which means mr. Markle is very well aware of what he is doing and how his actions will affect his daughter. I have a strong conviction that Doria has made attempts to advise him but he probably doesn’t care one way or another. This guy like knows very well what he is doing and a senior being taken advantage of is far from what’s happening in his case.
@Beebop
One thing I can’t get past is that this man ran away from the press solidly for well over a year and didn’t say a word……Meghan has praised him to the skies throughout her life and as recently as 2015….He spent a lot of money sending her to the best schools he could and supporting her wherever possible (So Meghan says)……. Even the rotten Markle twins, Samantha and Thomas Jnr have bitterly admitted that Tom Snr doted heavily on Meghan and spoilt her rotten…….how then does he suddenly do a solid 180 at the very end and begin exploiting her purely for cash?
I just can’t accept that cash + hurting her are his primary motive. It doesn’t add up. There’s more sh*t we don’t know about this story.
In any case, it just gets sadder and sadder.
@MasamF
I hear you…..I guess I’m still desperate to hang on to the idea that humanity still has a chance and they’re not just all monsters out there.
@Beebop. He’s trash, literal trash, who spawned trash in his older children. Where do you think they learned it from? The Samantha/Vonnie money train has dried up (Meghan does not know her) so he’s got to trot himself out now to keep it going.
Whenever an adult child says they have limited or no contact with certain family members believe that it is for a good reason.
Yeah, I don’t think Tom Sr. so much as “ran” from the press for a year, so much as that he just laid low and let Tom Jr. and Samantha do things, likely for him sometimes. There is no way a lot of those pictures and videos of Meghan that have been coming out came from them or even just her ex-BFF.
And it says volumes that he let Tom Jr.and Sam trash Meghan in the press non stop for almost two years without trying something to stop it, even if it was behind the scenes. He only did so when Sam’s 15 minutes were clearly up.
I gave that man the benefit of the doubt though it all . . . until he ran to talk to TMZ. I could have forgiven going to the LA Times, the NY Times, any one of a hundred legit news sources in the US. Hell, I probably could have forgive him going on Fox News to talk, even though I would have side-eyed.
But TMZ? Talking to THEM? Multiple times? No. Hell no. He showed what he was by going to THEM.
Him taking almost 50K for this interview just has me shaking my head. The only thing that will shock me is if he doesn’t take any money for any other interviews he gives in the near future (because he totally will give more interviews, mark it).
I think it’s a little bit of both.
Instead of being sorry that his nonsense clouded his daugther’s wedding he still feels sorry that he is just a footnote in a historical moment and not front and center.
It’s amazing. The level of complete disregard he has for Meghan. He is his other daughter’s father, that much is certain.
This interview showed the world just WHY she cut her family off and why she has a difficult relationship with him – he’s just as selfish and narcissistic as her half siblings. Neither she or the palace will be happy about this interview. He’s proven yet again he cannot be trusted not to blab private conversations with the press. Of course its all about ‘poor him’, he had a chance to walk her down the aisle and he bailed and is now complaining about it. And yes you are a footnote, what did you expect would happen even if you did walk her down the aisle, did you think you’d get a title?!?!? There is no way now that he will get to meet TQ even if he comes over to London – he’ll be lucky to even meet Harry.
The comment about Harry ‘raising his hand against his daughter’ really really made my blood boil, WTAF. Awful man.
I still think he lied about the surgery, he made enough comments to TMZ about watching the wedding from his hospital bed but is now saying it was from a B&B. Someone is going to drop the receipts on that – either TMZ or the Fail.
He would have been paid quite nicely for this – i’d say 3 figures. Poor Meghan, i really do empathise with her – i have family members who pull crap like this all the time and have been at it again very recently, hence my post. Sometimes it’s hard not to let them get under your skin.
“The comment about Harry ‘raising his hand against his daughter’ really really made my blood boil, WTAF. Awful man.”
Does that mean, that she was beaten by her first husband?
It’s definitely an odd and loaded thing to say, and does bring-up a few questions…..but then again, that was probably what he intended to do and to keep the interview requests coming through.
Considering that she left him head over heels and not telling him points in the same direction. We will never know. I think her father gave more info than he wanted.
I’ll be honest, while I think Tom Sr. is a liar, I also think he’s a manipulator/gaslighter. I think he knows how to push Meghan’s buttons (or at least thinks he does).
So yeah, I think he said it for a reason. Because he hoped it would get to her. Because he likely knows something like this DID happen. I’ve always had the feeling that there was some type of abuse going on to Meghan in her first marriage. From her co-star in that Random Encounters movie saying she “got her power back” when she left Trevor, to some things her other friends have low-key said about the things Meghan has gone though “making her stronger” AND Meghan herself saying her 20s were “hell”. . . .
Maybe it wasn’t always physical abuse. Maybe it was more mental. But I think there was something there. Something REALLY not good.
Plus, Trevor dipping out to South America all suddenly – as well as pulling the TV show idea about the ex marrying a royal so it’s not happening now – and then coming back engaged? Hollywood ain’t a good place right now for men who have abused women. And there are a LOT of men in the industry that have done it. Finding out Trevor was/is one wouldn’t be much of a surprise.
A lot of father’s say this to prospective son in laws, the big difference meaning that its a private conversation not to be broadcast around the world. Wife battering cuts across all cultures and classes and so no need for outrage that this was directed at Harry. Rumours abound of wife battery in aristocratic circles , I think Diana’s father may have been guilty of it, but aristos get away with everything, adultery, bankruptcy, wife beating….because they have a code of silence which gives the impression that they do not have the same issues as lesser mortals.
@PrincessK, I’m not married and wasn’t close to my father but I get that fathers can be super protective however I can’t imagine that a lot of fathers are that specific about warning against physical violence. Like if you have to mention it, then there should be 1000s of red flags… On the other hand, I can imagine a lot of fathers warning their prospective sons-in-law not to hurt their daughters, as in not to break their hearts, cheat, etc and of course don’t physically abuse them, but does that even need to be said? Surely that is the lowest possible bar of being in any sort of relationship. Raise a hand seems so weirdly specific and if I were the prospective son-in-law, I would find that deeply insulting…like should that even need to be said; WTF does he think of me? What does that say about him and how he treats women? If I were Meghan, I would have been mortified that this was my future husband’s first interaction with my father.
@ Maxine:
Well, when you think that his scumbag of a son was arrested for pointing a gun at his girlfriend’s head on one occassion and another arrest for a physical altercation between them shortly after……maybe that puts that particular (loaded) comment into perspective?
Digital U, according to an above poster, he got the equivalent of $53 grand US for this interview. I guess the trashy sister is next.
I must be missing something..the only time they spoke was about the engagement, and suddenly they’re talking brexit? Surely he could make up a more believable story…
Thank God Harry didn’t say he should disrespect Trump. Had he said that, there would have been a diplomatic kerfuffle due to this leaking bucket. Meghan should keep her dad at a distance since he.can’t keep a lid on things.
I don’t think Harry mentioned trump at all.
Yeah, this guy is just spewing bullshit for cash at this point. There is no way Harry talked Trump or Brexit with this guy.
Agree. I can’t imagine why Harry would discuss that dotard with this dotard. I don’t think they ever met in person, so for BREXIT and that POS to come up in a phone conversation? No, just no. Just like his 2 older children, TM is a shameless grifter. But, unlike them, he was invited to the wedding and he still betrayed her. To all the people who harshly criticized Meghan for distancing herself from these people, you should feel ashamed. There’s nothing she could have done to appease these people and expect their loyalty.
There is absolutely no way that Harry talked about politics with this man. No WAY. They aren’t that close to begin with (FFS they’ve never even met) and the phone call could have been recorded so I doubt Harry said *anything* even remotely scandalous. He’s not stupid.
Poor Meghan.
Harry never mentioned Trump or Brexit in the short one time phone call where he asked permission for marriage.
What utter crap
OMG. He needs to shut up.
The only way I can see Harry telling him people should give Trump a chance* is if he was saying it in a middle-of-the-road kind of way. Like trying to be neutral so didnt want to say “he’s a racist psycho”. I dont think a guy that’s so buddy-buddy with the Obamas** is going to be pro-Trump. And I also cant see Harry calling up Thomas Markle and having a political conversation. I know the royals are human so they are still going to have political opinions, even if they keep their mouths shut about them in public, but that just seems…..off.
*I get the impression Meghan is anti-trump, but I dont think she has ever confirmed that. Being a deplorable does not seem like it would fit in with her past political views, ha.
**I know Harry and the Obamas aren’t actually BFFs, but they seem to get along well enough and to be better friends than just random public figures, especially considering Harry did that appearance at one of their events last year.
Meghan publicly campaigned for Hillary Clinton during the 2016 election, and also had some choice words to say about Trump. No way in hell was she EVER for Trump, and her dad is full of sh!t!!
I just took any comment Markle is claiming as Harry have said as trying to be as non political as possible.
I agree. IF this conversation even happened, I think it was Harry responsible being to questions in a neutral way.
Yeah, I suspect the Trump topic was brought up by Mr Markle and PH made a noncommittal “yeah, yeah, guess we just have to see how it all unfolds.” Let’s not forget that despite it all Harry was a young man calling his prospective father in law asking for his daughter’s hand. Even if Meghan had warned him he’s a flake he’d still be highly motivated to have a benign breezy conversation. He’d never dream this type of betrayal and twisting of facts.
That’s probably the most charitable way to interpret things, yeah: Harry was being neutral, and Thomas is just too dumb to grasp nuance.
This seals it for me, Thomas Markle is a dirt bag and Piers…ugh. I hope Meghan turns her back on her father. A real father would have kept his mouth shut, but then a dad who loves and respects his kid wouldn’t have taken money for pictures.
One of the greatest moments in history? Meghan’s wedding? Sure. Right up there with the signing of the Magna Carta, the completion of the Great Wall, and the end of World War II.
It’s fucking weird how he keeps putting so much historical importance to it and the whole “woe is me, I missed out on being part of it”. He’s a bloody narcissist.
He is a raging Narcissist and a pathological liar.
Lets not think that a white royal is above fanboying Trump. I dont find that unlikely at all. Whats more unlikely is that he would talk over the phone about that, sounds too risky.
Yes, people tend to forget neither William nor Harry are particularly bright. Harry is more personable, but that doesn’t make him any more intelligent. That said I doubt anything TM says…
I wholeheartedly agree with you, QueenB.
Word. I mean, white male will white male. After June 23, 2016, I’ve come to that sobering realisation.
I think you mean white people will white people.
And that’s coming from someone who is pretty much a walking advertisement for early 1900’s Irish immigration. The data on voting from the 2016 election still makes me want to alternately weep and break things.
hahahahaha. White male will white male. lol. So TRUE!!!
Yup. They bought not the brightest. Let’s not forget, both thought it was a good idea for Harry to dress up Nazi eons ago.
It’s just unlikely because Harry is British. Most white men over here hate Trump. They’re not enlightened or anything, he’s just the kind of ugly American that most people despise.
The Brexit part of it makes me believe that Harry never said anything of the kind, because you know that if BP/KP has had one job, it is getting the royals to keep quiet about Brexit. To anyone.
Well I think Markle Sr is lying or at least exaggerating/distorting something Harry may (or may not) have said. Harry knows better, as a royal, to speak politics, and he was likely to have been forewarned by his fiancee about her father.
As if PH would talk politics with him. Get over yourself buddy. You will won’t be a foot note in history either, just a smear from the gnat that was on the page and the book killed by slamming shut.
I agree with you. But on this point, it just seems odd for Harry to get so political with someone he doesn’t know. Even if it’s Meghan’s estrange father.
Agree. It’s definitely not a reach that he’d be part of the “Give Trump a chance” crowd, but the circumstances of this convo are a little shady. Meghan used to be a fairly vocal admirer of David Cameron too, until she wiped her social media, so I think it’s best if we don’t fancast their political leanings based on just how much we like them or how pretty they are or how much feelgood factor their wedding had. I have a feeling some things are better left unsaid, or else they shatter the daydream of this new era of “woke royalty” (an oxymoron if ever there was one).
I don’t think William or Harry have any interest in or respect for Donald Trump. Whatever you think about their politics or social cares, this man publicly bragged on Howard Stern that he thought he could have “nailed” Diana (Stern’s word but Trump agreed) even thought she was “crazy”. There’s no way he’s getting any kind of chance with them.
@QueenB I would ordinarily agree with you, but Trump made some gross comments after Diana’s death (I think it might have been on the Howard Stern show?) so I doubt that William and Harry think he’s anything but a scumbag.
He also made some inappropriate comments in 2012 after Kate was photographed sunbathing nude, and William is not the type to shrug it off and move on. We know he holds grudges.
Additionally, Harry is friendly with the Obamas and Meghan flat-out called Trump a misogynist before she even met Harry. And wasn’t Africa one of the places he called a “shithole?”
Obviously no one can say for sure but I bet they think he’s as much of a POS as most of us here do.
OFF…WITH…HIS…HEAD!!!
He clearly doesn’t care about Meghan or having a relationship with her because this is not setting the record straight, this is a betrayal of Meghan and Harry. Piers Morgan and the media are scum for doing this, honestly I have more respect for TMZ than for these idiots.
And the hateful sister was back on twitter as well. Ugh. Are they trying to destroy the poor woman?
YES! They are, unfortunately.
Crabs trying to escape the barrel pulling the ones back who got free. It will never work but doesn’t make any of this less ugly.
Meghan obviously knows her dad. And it is very hard for me to feel sorry for the princess right now. Her life is blessed. Her dad’s a jerk. Sometimes people we love do unforgivable things. But yet, we still love them and that is ok. But love does not make any abuse more forgivable.
You can’t “lock down” horrible people like the Markels’…believe you me…I KNOW IT! Folks who are angry because they never got the BIG PIECE OF PIECE THEY FELT THEY WERE ENTITLED TOO…are the WORST! They stew in their self-loathing and self-hatred and will lash out…WITHOUT INTELLECT at any and everybody…There is NO WAY in Valhalla that Prince Harry had a conversation with this man regarding politics…and there is NO WAY that Prince Harry would tell THAT MAN anything regarding his stance on Brexit OR how he feels about POS Tramp…Harry was born and raised to do EXACTLY NOT THAT to strangers…and that’s what Thomas is…and I’m pretty sure…what he will remain to the folks in England…A stranger…
Precisely. But seriously, KP needs to do SOMETHING. At least a public statement disowning the Markles.
KP’s PR team are a car crash and have been for a long time, I hope that Meghan’s private sec steps in and takes over.
Markle says that he hopes this interview doesn’t offend the RF – it has and there is NO WAY IN FROZEN HELL that he will ever get to meet TQ.
It doesn’t matter how many interviews he gives he will always been seen as a grasping loser who let his daughter down on the biggest day of her life and sold her out to the press for a quick buck. That image will never leave him, not only because he keeps reinforcing it with stunts like this.
I know right. It is so out there I had to laugh a little. You can’t stop people like him so it is better to let him keep talking so much nonsense he begins to make the people paying him feel ashamed of themselves. It is better to ride these people out. They will make more and more outrageous statements to keep the money coming until they are seen clearly.
My only fear is that that was the attitude people had to Trump….and look how that turned out.
While I don’t think he intends on being malicious at all, I think they need to shut him up pronto. Enough is e- freaking-nough
Thank you for saying this. I’m sick of the “should have brought them in” and “get them to sign NDAs” arguments. NO NDAs WERE GOING TO STOP THE MARKLES FROM TALKING AND BEING TRASH. And all “bringing them in” would have done is given them credibility as royal insiders WHEN they started talking.
Because they don’t have big enough money to sue them for a NDA breach. They WANT money, any way they can get it, and feel entitled to whatever Meghan has. (Just like the cash Tom Sr. got for this interview). Never mind that they clearly had little to do with her while she was a struggling actress and NONE of them went to her first wedding.
And paying them off NOW would just have them continuing to come back for more. You have to treat these people like a boil – lance it off and move on.
And I don’t for one moment think Harry talked to Tom Sr. about Trump OR Brexit. They never met face to face (and I’m still amused at how many people missed the political savviness of Meghan getting THAT on the record on worldwide TV), and I don’t at all see Harry talking about it with that man over the phone. There is a reason Harry didn’t meet him face to face – that was NOT an accident, or Tom Sr. dodging doing it.
And guess what? I don’t think Meghan was upset about him not coming because she KNEW he’d pull some BS like he did and NOT come. This man clearly feels like HE needs to be the center of all attention.
Don’t believe the Harry bits. Why would Harry talk Brexit and Trump with a man he hasn’t even met in person? Riiiggghhht. I do believe Meghan was upset about him not coming. Of course, she would be! This man is an ass. Hopefully, Meghan will continue to keep him at arms’ length. He’s as toxic as her older sibs.
Piers has stated on numerous occasions how he hated Harry because he blames him for Meghan ghosting and freezing him out of her circle of cyber friends after she met and started dating Harry. This is Piers way of burning both Harry and Meghan for what he believes was a wrong done to him. I don’t believe a word out of TM Sr. mouth, I don’t believe he is even speaking to Meghan or her mother, I don’t even believe Harry has spoken to him longer than a minute and that was just to greet him introduce himself and ask for his blessings to marry his daughter, that’s it. The rest is just lies. So sad because I thought Mr. Markle would have some consideration for his youngest daughter, I guess he doesn’t consider her worthy of his fatherly love. No wonder Vonnie continues to trash Meg and all you hear is nothing from the father. On the flip side, even though I believe TM Sr. should have learnt a lesson and stopped talking, which he clearly hasn’t, Markel had no control of how the interview would be broadcast, which really makes him took more and more stupid than he probably never intended.
Why is Thomas Markle so concerned with his public image? Twice now, he’s tried to ‘fix’ his image and received payment for it. For a recluse he is weirdly obsessed with what people say about him. The interview was his second attempt for 15 minutes of fame and it didn’t work.
Best way to fix his public image is to completely change what he eats and losing 75 pounds so he stops looking so damn toxic and shuts up.
Wow! This delusional compulsive liar is definitely telling the truth THIS time.
Oh why can’t this man stop talking, Piers Morgan is terrible.
Oh and Thomas too.
I don’t believe Harry ever said anything about DT to Thomas Markle and I really don’t believe he said anything about Brexit. What a pos he is for exploiting his daughter for money and attention.
Is he trying to trigger Megan?
I bet he thinks his daughter will respond to this bc she is against Trump.
I would guess they are probably not speaking now. This is a way to get her attention.
And Yes, of coarse I think he’s doing it for the money and “fame” too.
I’m feeling for Meghan. She didn’t seem to want to cut her father out of her live, but that’s basically what is needed now. What a horrible man.
I know he is old, but Meghan need to take a break from him, keep in touch through a third party, he is as dreadful as Vonnie and Jr.
To all the people that jumped up Harry arse, when he made the comments about Christmas and family, he did not pull it out of the air.
I feel so awful for her. It seems like her dad’s side of the family is constantly punishing her for marrying Prince Harry and daring to be happy. I have a relative who is like that and it is so wearing (although I will admit that Meghan’s family drama is playing out in the press, so that adds another layer to the mess). You start to wonder “why does this relative hate me so much? Why do they want me to be miserable?”
I guess Piers is still mad that his “pal” Meghan didn’t invite him to the wedding. It’s clear her dad is trash like his other children; what parent hears their child sobbing on the phone over their actions and proceeds to tell the world about it on tv for a check. Every interview he gives, he can’t help but make it about him, and how he missed out on being part of something historic. Every time he opens his mouth he makes it clearer why Harry pretty much said Meghan’s mom is the only family she has.
ding ding ding!!!!
“I guess Piers is still mad that his “pal” Meghan didn’t invite him to the wedding.”
Total bunk. Harry has never even the guy and we’re supposed to believe they had a conversation about trump and brexit? BS.
How is everyone so sure Harry never met the guy? I’m not saying any of this is true. I’m saying that other than photo ops how do we know what these people do or where they go?
Royals go on vacation, have guests over, speak on the phone, basically 99% of the time no one knows.
Of course Harry would never say such a thing just as he would never dress as a Nazi. Meghan didn’t come in and miraculously erase all of Harry’s past behaviors and beliefs.
There is no way to know if any of this true as there is no way of knowing 100% it’s not true.
THOMAS SAYS HE NEVER MET HARRY!!!!!!!!
It must be true. lol
What a loser of a father, no wonder Doria took Meghan at 2 yrs old out of that toxic house.
Yes he paid for her education, and that is what parents do.
Meghan Should continue not telling her father anything personal about her life, the man cannot be trusted, he is not embarrassing Meghan, just proving what a loser as a father he is.
I hope Vonnie called him for Father’s Day, because she was worried about Meghan calling, I’m sure none of her three children called her for Mother’s Day, and most likely Meghan didn’t care.
I call bullsh&t. On all of it.
I hope Meghan’s smart enough to lean on the expertise of “The Firm” to deal with this as they’ve done with scores of other self-serving satellites. Something tells me she is.
I’m going on record to say that I’m now convinced that Mr. Markel is a no good father who is as selfish as his older children. I’m done defending this man, I’m done with claims that he is being used or being taken advantage of. That’s all folks.
oh this man is dirty. In my imagination this is an official shakedown. He’s mad, bitter, and acting out. The fact that he revealed anything about Harry’s conversation asking for Meghan’s hand, nevermind the made-up the political stuff, makes me believe he is trying to up the ante. He wants money to go away and will only get more brazen with his lies until he is paid. Gross.
Wow! He needs to zip it. Pronto. Unfortunately that’s not going to happen as long as the tabloids and media pursue him. Apparently he neither knows nor cares that he’s hurting and alienating Meghan.
Just lol
I know we’ve made excuses for this guy–he was getting harassed by the paparazzi so he tried to control the narrative about him, he is old and confused and might have dementia, the paparazzi really psychologically affected him and the stress gave him a heart attack…
But to go ahead and do this interview is a really low blow and there’s no going back. I could have seen Meghan maybe trying to repair relations had he stayed out of the limelight but if I were her, I would just cut ties. The fact he is talking about the state of her womb and her plans to start a family is so crass. I doubt Meghan will tell him when she’s pregnant. He’ll find out like the rest of the world when Kensington Palace puts out an official statement. He won’t be meeting his future grandchildren ever. And the whole comment about Harry not raising a hand to Meghan, that’s so inappropriate and so awful. Domestic violence is a real thing but that isn’t the kind of thing you say to someone when they ask you for your blessing!
As for the political comments–the only way I could see Harry telling Thomas to “give Trump a a chance” is if that conversation took place in 2016 (when Meghan and Harry started dating) after the election but before Trump was sworn in as president. I got a lot of similar comments from clueless people before reality kicked in on inauguration day. I wasn’t stupid, I knew his presidency would be a trainwreck. But I could see Harry saying that as a way to placate Thomas.
It’s funny that his biggest concern is about being a footnote in history. He doesn’t seem to care that he nearly ruined his daughters day- and definitely stressed her out during the week- or that he didn’t show his support for her. No, it’s about him and his name.
Thomas Markle is selfish and the fact that he shared his daughter cried when he told her he wasn’t coming and that her and Harry told him not to talk to the media and he still does it anyways knowing it will hurt her. How many times can she forgive you?
I would not blame Meghan for wanting to cut all ties with him. He’s not worth all the heartache. What will happen once she has kids? He would be selling all kinds of pictures and details about them.
” I continue to feel sorry for Meghan, and I continue to wonder why the British press seems so hellbent on giving these awful people a platform. ”
Because it sells papers. Even this site is repeating what he said. Why? Because it retrieves commentary. We’re contributing to it.
I didn’t know about the story until I read it here.
Yes, but this is ONE story I’m glad I heard. I was on the bumbling Thomas cart and have now switched sides.
The moment he started talking, I figured he was a little bit odd. You simply don’t talk to the media, regardless of whether your daughter is a non-royal like Jennifer Aniston or Angelina Jolie or your daughter is going to become royal by marrying Prince Harry. It’s weird no matter who you are.
Some people suggest that maybe Thomas Markle was one of the people who when Tramp won moved to Mexico as a protest . Also they analyzed maybe that’s how the trumps name was Raised when Harry suggested to move back and give tramp a chance. Just as UK is with Brexit and see how it will work.
Doria Ragland is truly a phenomenal woman. She’s put up with far more media attention and scrutiny than Thomas but she’s never once entertained them. She remained quiet and loyal to her flower the way a parent should be.
Meghan is beyond blessed to have such a woman in her life, especially when so many other family members have failed her.
Lainey has a post about it and is saying that the vile stepsister was behind it and the palace only found out about it an hour before it aired – he got paid in the region of £40k.
The Markles will never shut up about her and will sell her out at every single turn, the best they can hope for is that they become a joke, which they are all on the road to becoming. The press will tire of them and Peirs Morgan will get bored of baiting H&M.
I feel bad for Meghan and Harry! 🙁
TMZ is going to get Sr for this. He gave GMB the exclusive after he was feeding them stories. It’s now open season on the Markles. It’s going to come out Sr faked the heart attack and surgery.
Honestly, I hope Harvey Levin is PO’ed about this enough TO do that. Not a fan of the man, but he WAs an entertainment lawyer. I’m sure if there is something to dig up on Sr., he’ll find it and get it if he wants it.
HL is a repulsive garbage person but I would love it if he used his awfulness to shut the Markle’s down.
I think the best thing KP can do is to continue to let Thomas Markel show his true colors. He can hang himself a lot better than KP can lock him down. We all know how bad Samantha is, she did that on her own and no one takes her seriously anymore, Thomas will do the same thing. Eventually they’ll tire of not getting responses or the reaction from Meghan they want and they’ll slink away. In the mean time, poor Meghan.
Oh Doria. You were so smart to get your baby girl away from this man on a regular basis when she was 2 years old. Too bad you couldn’t cut him compelty out of her life, but you did the best you could. YOU clearly did the majority raising of her, even if SOME people keep wanting to center this man and his grifting older kids (and we know why they do).
Kensington Palace, hello is anyone listening! Mr. Markle out maneuvered Kensington Palace before the wedding and continues to do so…Kensington Palace’s PR team is garbage.
Poor Megan. Her father and his kids are horrible, but at least they provide entertainement.
He seems so awful.
OMG that picture. I thought I was looking at Harvey Weinstein at first. But they’re both two old, ugly, lying pieces of shit, so I guess I get a pass.
How can the Queen “disappear” the Epstein story on Prince Andrew and yet not manage a UK media boycott of the Markles?
This guy is the future grandfather. He’s not going away. Every holiday and birthday and main event, he will be shameless enough to put himself back in the public spotlight.
I wonder if this story happened too fast for her to put the kibosh on it. He was quiet for a while making everyone think he was dignified, and then out of the blue suddenly started blabbering. Who could have predicted?
I don’t think anyone thinks less of Meghan anyway. Prince Andrew is gross. In this case, Meghan isn’t the gross one so I don’t think the Queen really needs to step in. It’s the dad we’re all giving the side-eye to.
Honestly, having listened to the entire interview, I’m not sure it’s warranting the outrage it’s receiving, I found it, on the whole, while thoughtless and inconsiderate of Meghan’s feelings, pretty benign. I actually feel far more distaste for the loathsome Prick Moron who cynically engineered this interview than I do for Markle Sr.
I think most (sensible and objective) people will just eyeroll past it – with a sigh of sympathy for Meghan – for the pointless and unnecessary noise it is and have forgotten all about it and him by this time tomorrow.
The interview was totally scripted and Markle kept looking sideways to see if he was on script. The man is weak and useless and Meghan knows it.
Meghan’s fine. Only people looking to ding her would criticize her for the Markles.
@Skylark. The thoughtlessness and lack of consideration is why I’m bothered by this interview. Her dad is an emotionally ugly person to keep doing things like this and including Samanthat Markle in his grifting. And there’s no indication he won’t keep popping up every time Meghan has a big milestone in her life.
Why do we know that Meghan cried or that he told Harry to not hit her? What part of setting the record straight was that? This guy is trash.
Prince Andrew is her favourite, plus it would not do to have a member of the RF dragged into court in another country.
Thomas Markle has all the rope he needs and is willingly hanging himself. When it really hits the fan he will have no one to blame but himself. He’s creating a situation where Meghan will have no choice but to cut him off completely.
There’s always those people though, you know, who will keep saying, “But it’s family. How can you cut off your own father? He just wants to meet his grandchild etc.” As time pases, the apologists always judge. And the media will troll the events of the future grandkids’ lives with stories about the disowned grandparent
There’s always those people though, you know, who will keep saying, “But it’s family. How can you cut off your own father? He just wants to meet his grandchild etc.” As time pases, the apologists always judge. And the media will troll the events of the future grandkids’ lives with stories about the disowned grandparent
She still can’t control social media.
Who! Is! Getting! Fired! Because someone! Needs to!!
Seriously. This should be cause enough for Charles to separate the Dukes’ press offices. Let William staff his house with sycophants and Harry and Meghan can get qualified candidates in there (Harry & Megs- if you’re reading this, I can send my resume ASAP)
As soon as it was announced that H&M were getting married this man should have had someone looking out for him. He was left on his own with the press breathing down on him for any kind of information. He’s never been under that sort of scrutiny. I feel sorry for the guy and he’s making even more mistakes by speaking to PM. He may have had lengthy conversations with M&H via Skype. Its possible Trump and Brexit may have come up. He wouldn’t make that up.
@Joannie. How do you know he wouldn’t make it up?
How do you know he didi? Seems a little far fetched he’d just say that out of the blue. It could have happened.
Because he’s a sleazy dude who gives interviews about his own kid for money?
@joannie
He said in the interview that Harry offered to send a security guy to him when the news about the pap shots broke. He declined. He also said that they told him not to speak to the media and he hopes they can forgive him for wanting to clear his name. Thomas did not go through the palace for this and yet again, blindsided his daughter with his talks to the media.
I don’t feel sorry for him. PM said he called him and they gave him money in return. This was in the works for a few days now. Not once did he bother to tell his daughter about it.
Yep smells like a sell out to me. How on earth did he need to clear his name after the TMZ tales he told? I could totally but that he and Sam are in on it together though and he is not to be trusted by Meghan.
So glad this pos wasn’t at the wedding.
It doesn’t take professional coaching to know you shouldn’t sell out your KIDS to tabloids and the press.
If he needed to have that spelled out to him by some random consultants, he is dumber than he looks.
And his daughter and her husband specifically asked him to not speak to the media and he knowingly defied their wishes and betrayed their trust by giving multiple interviews. He is a back stabber of a father!
His voice his shakey, his eyes are wonkey. He just looks shifty and sneaky
@Joannie – I agree. I don’t know why people are so reluctant to believe that the Trump/Brexit conversation happened.
I don’t see it as anything other than the type of random small talk (which is more or less what Markle Sr. said in the interview) that two people who don’t know each other well would engage in, using prominent world affairs to pad out their conversation in the course of a telephone or skyped conversation.
As I’ve said elsewhere, I think Markle Sr. is stupidly and thoughtlessly naive rather than actively cynical and vindictive. Morgan on the other hand reeks of the latter.
Meghan knows more than anyone what her family are like, and she knows the best thing is to keep a distance. This explains why Harry has never met her father and is unlikely to do so, I suspected that there was something odd in the way she answered the question about her father in the interview, and also Harry talking about the family she never had.
And yet Meghan asked him to walk her down the aisle. That’s not made up or rumour, that’s fact. His name was on the order of service. I think Meghan knows her father better than anyone else and if she wanted him to be there on her big day, which she did, then there’s obviously more to him and their relationship than his inept tabloid missteps suggest.
Families are complicated. While her father isn’t doing himself any favours, I’m not as willing as everyone else to dismiss him as the sum of his idiotically hapless public parts. And neither, apparently, is Meghan.
Thank you @PrincessK. Meghan knows these people more than anybody here on this board, or anywhere else. Including her father.The fact that she said in an interview that went WORLD WIDE that Harry never met her father and only spoke to him on the phone AND Harry saying (just one month later) that the RF were the family “[Meghan] never had” should have told everyone everything. And when the British media tried to pressure Harry to take the statement back, he pretty much just said “I said what I said” wrt to it.
I’ve been a political junky for years. And those things were such clear signals to me about the trust-worthiness of her dad’s side of the family (namely, they weren’t – including her dad).
As to the him walking her down the aisle thing: I have a sneaking feeling that was a KP move, and that Meghan REALLY wanted her mom to do it. (Because she knew her father would try and pull something, which is exactly what he did do). But she invited him with maybe the hope that he would step up, but likely knew deep down that he wouldn’t.
Hope her father is happy taking money from the British Press for as long as they’ll indulge him. Because sooner or later, they’ll kick him to the curb just like they did Samantha, and the British Press money is the only money he’ll have gotten out of all of this, with absolutely NO access to Meghan or any kids she or Harry have for the rest of his natural life.
Tom Sr. wanted money. Tom Jr. let it slip Tom Sr. was expecting to negotiate a payout: https://twitter.com/Nouveau_Camelot/status/1008644952383983616
The BRF isn’t going to pay him out. So I hope it was worth it Tom Sr.
You’re taking things out of context and putting your own spin on them. I don’t feel thats what Harry meant when he made the comment regarding her family. Plus pictures prove otherwise. Her father is a bumbling old man who’s way over his head when it comes to the press and public perception. I feel for him and think his daughter should maybe help him out a little bit. Isn’t she supposedly so PR savvy?
@joannie, he ain’t bumbling. He worked in the entertainment industry for YEARS. He knows enough to take cash (almost $50,000) for the interview today and knew enough to run to TMZ to talk (one of the few “news” outlets in the US who pays for interviews and tips) and not one of the hundreds of LEGIT news orgs in the US.
The fact the same of you are trying to defend and falling for his BS is hilarious to me. He’s not over his head, he knows exactly what he’s doing, which is trying to get money out of this whole things and his daughter. Because someone who worked in the entertainment industry for years would have the common sense to know not to take money for an interview about your kids. Which. Is. What. Thomas. Markle. Sr. DID.
PS – as the saying goes, “follow the money.” EVERY outlet Sr. has talked to pays. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out what he’s doing.
@morrigan01
From some people, the faux concern for this old grifter is just bullshit. Anything to make Meghan look like she’s lacking in character, intelligence, class, or common sense will get said on these threads as a way to support their personal agenda, even if it’s trying to make it look KP or Meghan did nothing to help this poor, hapless fool who, BTW, just want’s to set the record straight that he’s not a poor, hapless fool and a liar.
Agree with Skylark and Joannie. The man is an idiot and definately misguided. And it’s entirely possible that Harry, in order to pacify him and his dislike of Trump, may have casually said that. Same thing with Brexit. After all, Harry is the one who showed up at a party in a Nazi costume, not a very intelligent move, but then he is not a super intelligent guy.
And by the way, Trump was elected, and the Brits did vote for Brexit.
This is just pathetic and trashy. I’m really happy that Meghan has been embraced by her new ILs because with the exception of Doria and a couple of extended relatives, her family is worthless.
Does anyone think that Doria might eventually move to be closer to Meg? Maybe after they have kids?
No I don’t as Doria has a life in LA. She will visit I am sure.
Very interesting that Markle Snr has never mentioned Doria, maybe he knows saying anything good or bad about Doria would be a step too far. Doria has properly told him to keep his trap shut and will be furious now. Both Doria and Markle Snr were given guidance about how to deal with the media and her father could not follow the example of his ex wife , who has been equally if not more harassed by the paps.
The Queen should give Doria the coat of arms, I am sure the researchers will eventually find English ancestors on her side too.
He has mentioned Doria. In this actual interview. And very favourably.
Did you actually read/listen to it because you come across as if you didn’t and are unwilling to hear or listen to anything that will shift your investment in your really unhealthy idea of Meghan as being this perfect person. She’s flesh and blood and imperfect and lovely. That’s all she needs to be.
It doesn’t make sense at any of the royals would be for Brexit. It weakens them. Ergo, I don’t believe harry said that. And I don’t believe that he said that about Trump.
Tom Markle just made a bunch of sh*t up to make Megan look bad. Probably that f*cking cretin Piers Morgan’s idea.
Like it or not there are many who are pro Brexit and Pro Trump! Just not on here. Thats truth! Awful as it may seem.
Yup.
Yeah it’s not believable he’s a trump supporter unless he’s completly at odds with his new wife. Meghan was a pretty outspoken Hillary supporter and is feminist and anti racsim activist it seems odd that she would marry a man that’s supportive of a misogynistic racist. I really doubt Harry walks around telling people to give trump a chance. As for brexit I don’t know, I am not English.
It doesn’t make sense at any of the royals would be for Brexit. It weakens them. Ergo, I don’t believe harry said that. And I don’t believe that he said that about Trump.
Tom Markle just made a bunch of sh*t up to make Megan look bad. Probably that f*cking cretin Piers Morgan’s idea.
Stop giving these people a platform. Good grief. Youd think dad would have learned to shut his pie hole already!
makes me happy to know without a doubt my father would NEVER do this. this guy is a scumbag. pathetic
he is SO CREEPY
I don’t believe anything this man says. Megan needs to cut him off completely because that side of the family will try to destroy anything she has or will continue to do anything to make a dollar off of her. Unfortunately just because you are blood does not make them act like real family. I would not speak to any of them again if I was her!
I feel so bad for Meghan but lordy does this make me love Charles more. Not long after TM’s sh*storm a little article on the daily mail said Charles nickname for Meghan is Tungsten because she’s tough and unbending. Love love love him for the way he cares about Meghan.
I don’t believe anything Thomas has to say about Harry when it comes to politics or anything else for that matter . I think that piers Morgan coach Thomas to say those things about Harry for dramatic effect knowing that the headlines we be Harry Donald trump supporter I think that Thomas has a ego the size of Texas and can’t see past his own pride . To do what is best for his daughter which will be to stop talking but he cants he so consumed with his image and how he seen to world that he doesn’t even care or realize what he is doing to his daughter Meghan will really have no other choice but to cut him off . I hope the money was worth never being a part of his daughter and her husband and his future grandkids life .
thinking about what makes a man like Thomas Markle and realized that if MY LIFE became public in this way my narcissistic arrogant racist selfish ahold dad would easily become ‘this’. In a flash. How depressing.
Harry found the most gutter trash family to marry in to. Not too late to throw in the towel Harry and ship her back to her family.
Meghan is NOT these people. She’s her mother’s daughter. You know, her mother who has the grace and class not to talk to the press and sell her daughter out for money.
The way people are trying to so desperately center the white side of her family who she’s clearly had nothing to do with for at least a decade or more is very telling to me.
Harry married Meghan, NOT her (dad’s side) of the family.
When I think of the world’s greatest historical events…Prince Harry marrying Meghan Markle is not in any way comparable to putting a man on the moon, the invention of life saving medicines and vaccines, discovering the universe, and the D Day invasion, just to name a few. That is honestly laughable.
I think that many non white people see this as very historic including Oprah so I am careful about dimishing that tbh.
Hmmmm. If she did in fact grizzle when he told her he was dodging the wedding I can only imagine it was heartfelt sobs of utter relief. Lucky escape really. This sad old fart is an abject roaster for sure, but Piers Morgan? Ooft – he is and always has been an absolute whiny bag o’ shite. And spiteful too. He’ll get his.
Tapes or it didn’t happen. This is a man who sold staged pap photos of himself and has TMZ on speed dial. I can’t believe he doesn’t have a tape recorder next to the phone to get his son-in-law on the record so that he can cash in. Samantha would make sure of it too.
I have a feeling that this family will lash out against MM every time she makes headlines internationally. So she was invited for a train sleepover with the Queen? Better go on TV! These rock-dwellers will resurface until they cross the final line by insulting the Queen.
Oh my GOD, this man needs to just shut the eff up!
Sadly, he has a price. He’s going to be without her in his life if he keeps this up. What a wretched family.
They need to shut this down. KP needs to release a statement that Meghan has no contact with these vultures and anything they say to the Media should not be trusted and is for monetary gain.
A possibility is that TM was ranting on the phone to Harry about how people should give Brexit and Trump a chance, and Harry went “mm-hmmm” just to be polite and then changed the subject, and that’s what narcissistic, delusional TM is now “remembering” as Harry rooting for Brexit and Trump. Narcissists have a very distorted and self-serving view of reality.
Let’s just hope that the 40,000 was worth it to Tom Sr because it effetively ended his relationship with his daughter. She can no longer trust or confide in him and still be trusted as an insider in her new family. So now if he wants to know anything about her life going forward, he will have to read about in the media just like the rest of us. I can’t believe that he didn’t realized how important it was for him to no longer exploited her privacy while trying to pretend he’s just a proud Dad. But even knowing the cost to Tom Sr, I’m sure that Piers Morgan will sleep like a baby tonight.