The Duchess of Sussex’s family continues to be the absolute worst. This time it’s Junior, Meghan’s half-brother. I guess Junior was tired of his disgusting father and rancid sister getting all the headlines, so Junior decided to chime in with some dumb sh-t about how the celebrity life and the royal life has changed Meghan so much, and if not for Harry, Meghan would totally be in Mexico right now, checking on their father. Why doesn’t Junior go and check on Senior? Why doesn’t Samantha? If they’re so bloody concerned, they should move down there full-time to look after that POS. Which brings me to this piece in the Daily Mail – it’s an exclusive with another “unnamed friend” of Meghan. I smell Poor Jason’s fingerprints on this one, but who knows. Some highlights:
The unnamed source says Meghan is embarrassed by her family: “It has just become so embarrassing for Meghan. Like the elephant in the room when she’s with people she doesn’t know very well. What frustrates Meghan the most is that her father doesn’t seem to take responsibility for any his actions, as if he can do no harm, and everyone else is to blame. Well, he is harming her by putting down the royal family. He’s harming her by making everything public. And the more he speaks with the media, the more she wants to stay away. The more he blasts the royal family, the more she wants to stay away.”
Meghan is going to talk things out with Doria when they see each other: “So far, Meghan’s mom hasn’t gotten involved, but that may all change when they see each other in person. Meghan has been adamant that her mom not get dragged into all the drama. But if anyone can talk some sense into her dad, it’s Doria. Meghan is now open to the possibility of her mom working some magic behind the scenes.”
Why Meghan spoken to her dad: “In a perfect world, Meghan would have a reunion with her dad and he would not say one word about it. It’s tricky because her dad will most likely tell his other children about it, and one of them will go blab about it to the world. When Meghan was younger she was the family people-pleaser, always trying to make others happy, including her dad. She’s not the same person anymore. Of course she feels hurt. From the get-go, she made it crystal clear that speaking to the press was absolutely prohibited. That out of respect for Harry, this was completely taboo. Yet, time and again her dad continues to do the complete opposite. The last thing she ever wanted was a media circus starring her dad.”
I can totally see how Meghan would be a “people pleaser,” and also: kids with divorced parents learn to live two separate lives pretty quickly, especially if their divorced parents don’t want to have anything to do with each other (the anti-conscious-uncoupling). Of course Meghan doesn’t want Doria to get involved, because of residual divorce sh-t, and because Doria is the only one she can count on right now, and the last thing Meghan wants is to have Doria become collateral damage in Thomas, Junior and Samantha’s war against her.
I’ve been wondering for some time if Meghan will, at some point in the next few months, sit down for some kind of interview where she says something to the effect of “My father is unwell and everyone has seen first-hand how pathetic and abusive he is to me. I would truly appreciate it if media outlets stopped paying him for interviews, please.” It would actually make a difference in how these stories are written.
Photos courtesy of WENN.
Meghan is still paying bitterly for the letter Harry wrote against the media (please no one should tell me otherwise). The tabloids are seriously gloating that somehow they are hitting Harry where it hurts for daring to rebuke them. If Meghan sits down for an interview as you suggested and pleads with the media to stop payment to her Father, what do you think will happen considering that the platform given to the Markles is ‘pay back’? I’m beginning to suspect that the Markles are being coached on how and when to grant these horrible interviews. Because I keep wondering why the media Never asks them important questions like; why is Samantha enstraged from her kids?
As soon as Meghan and Harry resume their charity appearances, these interviews would increase.
I have wondered if some of that is at play here. I suspect some very heartless people own/run these newspapers.
“Because I keep wondering why the media Never asks them important questions like; why is Samantha enstraged from her kids?”
Why is no one discussing the abuse of her younger kid, and the fact her mother got custody of her kids? And not only her kids, what about the brother’s kids. TM hasn’t seen/spent any time with them either. Heck, he hasn’t had a relationship with the other two either.
He/They only want(s) to glom onto Meghan…because $$$$$.
The thing that annoys me most is the family and media is trying to portray them as close when Meghan hasn’t seen her siblings in at least a decade and has always a spotty relationship with her father. When the relationship was first confirmed Samantha and Jr admitted this.
Yes this annoys me too. But not as much as how some people keep saying that they can’t understand why Meghan wrote all those nice things about her dad in her blog and on interviews she has given. Like it was somehow shady of her. Why is it so hard to understand that she probably loved her father and didn’t want the world to know what we now know about him. Just because she was respectful towards him doesn’t negate the fact that they were probably estranged and had a difficult relationship.
That’s exactly my thought. The media is hitting him back as hard as they can. I remember how I first heard about the Harrys gf; papers reporting on the open letter Harry had wrote on the smearing of her. If he hadn’t wrote the letter, the majority wouldn’t have known about his gf at the time. It’s just another perfect example of white male privilage; poor little Harry stomping his feet because for the very first time in his life someone (the media) isn’t perfectly obediant. And by this I’m in no way taking stands for or against the content of the letter, just saying that he made a really stupid move back then and now his paying for it big time.
@line,
His letter addressed his anger about the racism that was clearly present in the coverage of his girlfriend.
Sorry, but I think it is ok for anyone, of any gender, race, or socioeconomic status to loudly and openly denounce racism whenever necessary.
I mean the timeing of the letter. If Harry now, at the present moment, wrote an open letter to the media, it would be perfectly understandable (considering the outrage of her estranged family). But he wrote it before the debacle had even started and no one had ever heard about Meghan.
He wrote it because of some terrible things printed by daily mail and elsewhere about Doria, before the relationship had been confirmed. He was probably upset about a lot of things.
But the things printed about Doria needed to be addressed by someone. Im not going to repeat them here, but I think this summer or early fall 2016
I am not trying to make out he’s not spoiled, he may well be, don’t know him.
But any boyfriend needed to write at least a portion of that letter.
I agree with @Line the main problem with Harry’s letter was the timing before the relationship was confirmed. And Harry wasn’t just any boyfriend. A royal directive towards the press tends to rub some people the wrong way. And I do think some of this is backlash (but not only from Harry’s letter. Backlash from other royal directives too including some about Kate as a girlfriend and later about the Cambridge kids.) Sometimes even when the other person/party is wrong, making a public statement makes the situation worse. It can be the “right thing to do” to speak up but it’s also naive to think there won’t be negative consequences. The often used “never complain, never explain” royal approach tends to work better for the long game. But neither Will nor Harry seems to think that. I am not a British tabs reader so I was unaware of racist attacks on Meghan (and pretty much unaware of Meghan) prior to Harry’s letter. Perhaps the attacks needed to be publicly addressed. Since I didn’t see them I can’t really say whether the open letter was needed or whether a different approach would have been more effective. But given that the princes have frequently spoken out against the press, the importance of that particular issue got a bit lost in the “spoiled royal prince stomps his feet about the press again” narrative.
@lizbeth,
If you search for Meghan Markle 2016 you should be able to find at least one of the stories.
Harry’s letter was written and published weeks later.
Harrys letter in 2016 references the racist coverage. I am not going to repeat what the letter protested.
I am not debating whether or not Harrys letter is partly to blame for what is happening now. I have no idea. I don’t care.
But Harry being royal would not have been an acceptable excuse for him to stand by quietly while ugly racist things were being written about his girlfriend’s mother in the British press.
@lizbeth
And the idea that the palace is too far above the mess of racist news coverage to acknowledge it, is nonsense.
A bunch of very well off people in a palace are above such matters?
No. They absolutely are not.
When it comes to protesting openly racist statements printed by reporter, the right thing to do is ALWAYS the right thing to do.
@Hershey…it may have been the right thing to do but it also may be why the press has been so unrelenting re: the Markles. Both things can be true. And frankly, had Harry’s statement addressed racism only, it would have come across as a principled stand. Instead the overall statement seemed a bit whiny as it focused much more on their right to privacy. The way the statement was written, racism was treated as a side issue to Harry’s life-long media battles. Because Harry has been stomping his feet about privacy for years as has Will while being supported (one way or the other) by the British public, I do not think the letter was an effective approach especially at a time when many people didn’t know who Meghan was.
@lizbeth,
Sorry but racism in the press is ALWAYS unacceptable.
You suggest Harrys letter in part caused the shameful coverage his wife is experiencing?
No, lizbeth, Harry being a brat does not give the media a pass on the racial undertones now.
His letter does not somehow give the media a reason. No one is ever responsible for bringing racism on themselves.
I get that you are trying to defend the don’t explain narrative. But racism does not fit well into that logic at all.
Even Tom Sykes who has been supportive of Meghan in his articles this summer about the difficulties with her family said at the time in 2016 Harry’s letter was likely to be perceived as a “temper tantrum” and if so, it was likely to make things worse. Whether that’s fair or not, whether it should be that way or not isn’t the point. And again, as I said before, HAD Harry’s open letter focused on the racism aspect, it would have made sense to me (had I known about what was in the tabs then.) And I’d argue it likely would have had a different effect. But it didn’t. Instead the letter, a letter that introduced Meghan as his girlfriend to many people, focused on their right to privacy. (I re-read it to be sure I wasn’t remembering it wrong.) He *detailed* in the letter objectionable media actions like efforts to get info about Meghan from old friends and exes. I understand why that would be upsetting but it’s also what happened to Kate as a royal girlfriend (except that Carole was friendly with the DM folks and that helped a bit) and what happened with Harry’s past girlfriends. Harry’s letter also came a little over a year after the letter to the media from the Cambridges about THEIR privacy and the privacy of their children when in public places. (The letter that said paps might be shot.) So given the timing, Harry’s letter likely was seen as yet another princely tantrum about the media. I agree racism is never OK. And a target should not be blamed. But viewing a media backlash–a backlash that was predictable– as a response to Harry’s action isn’t blaming Meghan. And by backlash, I mean the willingness to continue talking to TM.
@lizbeth
Clearly Harry as super brat is a position you have an opinion on. Which is fine. He may be.
But the logic you are trying to use here to defend your narrative on Harry, unintentionally leads to something else.
@lizbeth,
The media coverage that appears to be somewhat racially motivated was ugly in 2016. The same sort of coverage is ugly and nasty now in 2018.
Why anyone would want to attempt to explain it as in part brought on by a royal brat is incomprehensible to me. If the media bashing had no racial undertones, explain away using Harrys letter.
Nothing racist ever deserves an explanation because there is no acceptable cause.
I don’t think the Markle’s are being coached. The tabloids love this crap and they know how to sell it. This doesn’t require any help like that.
Also, the reason no one asks the Markle’s about their personal lives- minus whatever personal life they had with Meghan, I.e. Samantha’s estrangement from her kids is cause no one cares unless it has something to do with Meghan or Harry. It’s not journalism; it’s gossip. It sells to see the rich and powerful having issues. People eat it up. It should die down eventually, if Meghan and Harry ignore it, but some stories have staying power. I mean look at the staying power of the Pitt/Jolie/Anniston triangle- took two divorces for that to go away and it still pops up in the current story occasionally. Unfortunately, with her family still milking their 15 min of fame we will have to see what happens.
How terrible. All this because a mixed race commoner had the audacity of marrying a Prince and because he stood up for her. I guess we’ll never stop hearing from this awful family.
All of this!
It all comes down to racism. That’s the big elephant in the room.
I don’t feel that way. Most see Meghan as an accomplished, well spoken woman, who gives the RF that extra glamour. They see that her father is toxic and that she is between a rock and a hard place with him. However, I think the media is really hitting back at Harry, who always have been very arrogant with the media.
I’m a Brit, who’s generally proud of my country, and I think we don’t do too bad a job combatting racism, compared to other Western (and especially European) countries. But what Meghan has gone through is directly attributable to the racism of our tabloid press, and I am utterly, utterly ashamed of it. This is about 10% attributable to the letter that Harry wrote, and 90% attributable to the Daily Mail and the Sun embodying the worst aspects of their readers.
Here in the US racism and sexism and all kinds of intolerance continue to exist in many places.
When I was younger I expected to see these attitudes disappear. But they have not.
I spend time in UK every year. I have never heard anyone utter even one ugly racial sentiment. Ever. Im sure it happens. But not like here in the US. I love that about you guys.
Which is why I am mystified by the current press. It makes no sense because it is not the UK I know.
@hershey, you probably have met lovely middle class Brits, who have lovely middle class attitudes and would never say anything that could remotely be construed as racist. Until the Jamaican nurse comes to work at the NHS practice and outworks all of the English nurses, or their child doesn’t get into Oxbridge and they read a story about Stormzy providing a scholarship for black Britons at Cambridge. The UK tabloid press reflects the UK as many people wish it was, and not as the BBC would present us, or the rest of us would wish ourselves, to be.
@Tina, very true. Sadly I go home to the same sort of people. And hear it more often, it is less hidden, and more frequent.
I do not doubt any of what you are saying. It is just easier to see here and uglier. We have some real issues here with race and politics here becoming exhausting.
I know you guys have problems too. But getting to let go of that and not hear the words or the constant political brutality for a few weeks a year is something I love.
Turning on the UK morning news shows to start my day is so different than what I listen to here in my car on the way to work. I always miss it when I get back.
There is racism everywhere. But I admire your country for being better at it.
@Tina, have great grands from wilts, and great grands from Ayrshire. I know you guys argue and that racism exists. But you have a right to be proud. And I pray your UK stays the UK I love to come home to every year.
I know Meghan has had her share of racism, especially with her marriage, but I’m confused here with this comment. This just seems like the crazy part of her family is grubbing for her fame and money since she joined the royal family. Honestly this side of her family is probably very racist, but in this case I think they would do this to her even if she was as white as snow. Since she’s now a royal it would still be all the rage on the gossip mags as conflict sells.
The only racial overtone that makes me smile a bit with this is, isn’t it funny how the “inferior” people to these racist creeps are the ones who are behaving dignified and being respectful, while the so-called “superior” race is acting like they fell off the turnip truck. What’s scary is people won’t see that. Our last President was respectful, no matter what your politics. This President is not. I always worry each time there is a terrorist attack or a mass shooting or a murder, don’t let it be a middle easterner, immigrant or just someone that a section of society has deemed as “other” cause it will get all the oxygen, but if it’s reversed it rarely does. It’s just so sad.
I still don’t get why media keeps paying him. He has nothing “new” to share….it’s always the same bs. Go away!!!
C, I think it is because the articles keep getting tons of clicks. People live for this sort of family drama. They may also be trying to goad Meghan and/or the royal family into responding, as the articles and family quotes keep getting more and more outrageous. I hope Meghan does not back down, this is really a no win situation for her.
Alisha, you’re right!
I’m sure she’s embarrassed but as usual DM is laying it on thick. Most people have goofy relatives somewhere in the family tree.
This is true, but also – look at the BRF!!! They are a mess themselves.
However, I agree with all of the other posters who are of the don’t explain, never complain ilk. This is abuse, full stop. It is fueled by racism and jealousy both from the British press and her white relatives. Such undertones of, who does this coloured lady think she is, daring to think that she is better than us and can have a better life than ours…and we don’t know what she is actually thinking but hasn’t she shown herself to be better than them? Their own behavior reveals what toxic, petty, small-minded, and unhealthy people they are.
Exactly.
Perfectly said!
No Kaiser, do not sit down to say anything, don’t give the media the satisfaction. Just erect a very very high wall of silence between the British media and the Markles, very high wall of silence is all they need. Yep, right up there with all that say, don’t explain, never complain. To add to that, NEVER give anyone the satisfaction of thinking that they broke you. So to Harry and Meghan and the BRF I say: take the invictus, throw it at the press and all the Markles out there and flip them the bird. Keep up with the stiff upper lip and say “You didn’t make me so you can’t break me. Under the bludgeoning of your assaults, my head is bloody but unbowed, I’m the master of my fate, Im the captain of my soul”
Agreed. She needs to keep ignoring them until people get tired of them. Since they have nothing new to say, they are nearing their saturation point.
mte
Calling him unwell and saying poor me in a interview will add fuel to a dying fire. The news cycle is just getting sick of him, why add comments to renew it and give them all something fresh to respond to? Never complain, never explain.
Exactly this. Speech is silver but silence is gold. Stiff upper lip all around. Never explain, never complain. You know the media is starting to feel the pressure when they start regurgitating. Wall of silence will fight and win this battle for the BRF.
I don’t care if the British royal family win or lose here.
If silence allows this woman to move past this without being harmed, great.
If being passive leaves her feeling like a victim, she should take care of of herself first.
If the palace wins, but this woman is left thinking of herself as a victim, well that would be sad.
This is a father hurting his daughter. I want the daughter to be ok. I don’t really care about the palace.
@Hershey at this point and in this particular case, it is not possible to separate Meghan from the BRF. They gonna need to fight this battle as a unit, not just Meghan on one side and the British media + the Markles on the other side with the rest of the BRF somewhere in between. So there’s no “palace winning while Meghan is left thinking herself as a victim”. The BRF (at least this is my belief) has already built a protective wall around Meghan at this point. Whatever humdingers her detractors throw at her are being felt and received by her new family, collectively if I must say, they are in this together. I believe Meghan’s husband and her inlays understand that Meghan is going through all this because of her association with them (BRF). Before she dated prince Harry, her family existed but nobody cared. So in this particular situation/case, Meghan winning is the BRF winning and vice versa.
The British royal family has a history of responding to problems with support for its members.
But they definitely do not always work as a cohesive unit. The royal family has its own dysfunction. They are not always a supportive group.
Meghan may or may not want to act in unison with the palace and brf.
She is a separate entity. What is good for the brf is not always what is best for one member.
What any one of us would want to do in this situation is highly individual. What she needs to do for herself may be different from any other member of that family.
What I am saying I believe could apply to anyone, In any setting, not just Meghan.
Can’t Meghan or the BRF bring a lawsuit against Thomas, Jr and Samantha? A slander or stalking suit? How about issuing a restraining order against them (and do restraining orders apply to speaking about or harrassing them via the press)? Am I the only one who believes it’ll take the threat of a gigantic lawsuit or restraining order to shut those gremlins up?
Her sister does a lot on Twitter. In the US, many states have laws against bullying or stalking on social media.
If any of the statements her family are making are factually untrue, she could take action. So lies about facts, not opinions.
She might be able to file for protection from emotional abuse. Usually emotional abuse is harder to prove. Not with these folks.
I suspect legal action is one of her choices. Legal action against family usually feels bad. It is not as easy as one would think.
But sometimes it is necessary.
I am hoping she handles this in a way that lets her move past this with her self esteem intact.
She needs to do whatever allows her to not feel like a victim.
I wonder if we could file official complaints against the social media accounts for the family members? Note the bullying, emotional blackmail, etc?
Ohhhh no never engage liars, stalkers, gaslighters. Extricate, walk away, live her life and carry on ignoring them. Forget them as much as possible. She deserves to be happy, these people are trash and out to harm her obviously. The safest response to abuse is silence and leaving. Unless or until they escalate, which I hope never happens, she’s safest ignoring them and enjoying her life.
That statement is what needs to happen. Perhaps without the words pathetic and abusive. Never ever allow the narcissist to feel they have made you a victim. It invites more.
Perhaps she could say my father is unwell and should be treated with care and respect due to his vulnerabity.
And she could request that publications take care not to publish interviews given under the influence of medication or other substances. Maybe the last request could be private.
The statement should come directly from her.
A statement will only add more fuel to the crazy fire that is the Markles, because then they’ll feel the need to respond. The best thing to do is nothing, keep treating them as if they don’t exist. DO NOT prove to them or the press that it they provoke you enough , they’ll get a response. When everyone realizes that they have no and are NEVER going to have access, they’ll go away. If she’s really smart, she’ll never speak to or see her Father again unless surrounded by people, he can’t be trusted.
I hope Meghan NEVER does an interview acknowledging this bs. Everything she says will be twisted and the terrible articles will continue.
The media is trying very hard to drag Doria into these mess and will probably call her all kinds of names, e.g. angry black woman, if she does. Don’t ever forget the awful articles about her coming from slaves and ghetto.
TM went to the same outlets who harass his bi-racial daughter. He is in bed with the racists in the media. I don’t care what anyone says but he doesn’t love his daughter. He is probably a racist, too.
To Doria and Meghan: never explain yourself and just ignore these trailer trash and hillbillies. Karma will hit them hard one day.
I agree she should never speak to them again. But I would add, karma has already hit them: look at their lives.
“TM went to the same outlets who harass his bi-racial daughter. He is in bed with the racists in the media. I don’t care what anyone says but he doesn’t love his daughter. He is probably a racist, too.”
Soo did Harry….. He’s been feeding them his relationship exclusives from the beginning.
There was a quote in a Daily Beast article about this that chilled me to the bone:
I’m paraphrasing, obviously, but the writer said, imagine if this were an ex boyfriend of Meghan’s saying, “I’m going to keep talking to the media and spilling your secrets and blasting your new husband until you come and visit me.”
What this family is doing is abuse, no excuses. Why this is going on baffles me,
Yep! It worries me when people in comment sections (not here) still take Thomas Markles side or talk of Meghan as some kind of horrible demon who ignores her poor ailing father. Some people, who’ve presumably had pretty good parents and a stable upbringing, will never truly understand how sh*tty and damaging some people’s parents were. Because of abuse, neglect, addiction, personality disorders, mental illnesses etc. It doesn’t mean you’re automatically a horrible parent when you have these things, but having experienced it first hand, and knowing a lot of people who grew up with abuse in the family, I just don’t understand some people’s blindness or lack of empathy for Meghan. Not all parents deserve their children’s care in their older years… Broken trust at an early age lingers for a loooong time
I would imagine Meghan is used to get toxic family. Probably just wishes they would focus on their own families instead of her.
No statement is going to help. And Meghan need not be embarrassed because this is her father’s behaviour not hers. Say nothing and carry on because the moment she says anything he’ll take it as a sign that he’s won and ramp up the nonsense even more. The London media is spending time talking to him, so they’ve already made it clear they won’t help. She simply needs to carry on and hope for another one of his heart attacks.
Wishing a heart attack on this man is terrible, especially if he is unwell.
Wow
Then again, Suki, we only have *his* word that he had any kind of a heart episode. No hospital receipts, so to speak, at all. Did he have stress/food induced pain? Maybe. We don’t have ANY proof except from the mouth of a proven liar. I take it all with a BIG bucket of salt! (And throw in some tequila and margarita mix with that please! 🍹)
@Suki, wishing is not making it happen, please don’t guilt trip posters. I can say, I wish this guy would drop the face of the earth, it doesn’t mean Im gonna go out and murder him.
I’M TERRIBLE.
HK9,
Hi : ) my symbol is supposed to be a smile. I did not assume you wished anyone genuine harm with what you said in your comment
Team Meghan and Doria
I feel so sad for her cause she is an only child from her mother,maybe if she had siblings from her mother maybe they would have stood up for her,blood from a mother’s side is so strong and the bond is always there,so these half siblings from the father’s side are taking advantage of her,and their father is also a jerk,poor woman.
lol well, that’s Meghan’s fault for cutting out her mother’s side from her life. She grew up with them but couldn’t be bothered to invite her mother’s relatives to her wedding. smh such nonsense about being diverse but you don’t even include your poc family.
If Meghan sits down and actually says “my father is unwell” expect a lawsuit against the royals the likes of which has never been filed. I’m not litigious but if a family member with a worldwide audience said that about me publicly- the sky would be the limit for what i would sue for.
Meghan should let her mother try to intervene behind the scenes. Anything public is a bad idea.
Meghan doesn’t need to say it, it’s blatantly obvious to anyone who looks at him. And what on earth would he sue for? Truth is an absolute defence to libel. I agree that anything public is a bad idea. She just needs to wait it out.
Doria should absolutely not speak to that abusive POS. He will turn everything she says into lies, innuendo and threats against him and his sicko older children. It’s clear to me these people are very racist and very disturbed, and trying to appeal to their sense of decency and loyalty to family is futile because they have none of these qualities. Further, neither Meghan, Harry, KP nor Doria should make any statements about him or the sickos to the press. It would be the same outcome. Those wackos would spin it into more lies, innuendo and threats, and create more abusive fodder for the press.
Doria needs to stay out of it as she has been doing. The beef is all from Thomas, nothing from Meghan. She needs to keep doing what she is doing. I divorced after 25 years of marriage. Told my grown children that they needed to make their own relationship with their dad and I would be okay with whatever that would be. Well, he has made his bed and now lies in it. None of them will talk to him because of his behavior towards them and their children. So Thomas has made his bed and now has to lie in it and realize that it is of his doing and no one else’s.
Intervene behind the scenes? To a family that has already sold anything and everything they “know” to the media already? Doria and Meghan are the only class IN this act. Doria is probably having a ball watching her ex make a gigantic ass of himself.
This behaviour from the Markle side of the family is not new, she will have been dealing with them whole of them her whole life. And yes its abuse and racism, her family and the British press need to be called out on it.
Karma will catchup with this lot and it won’t be pretty. The press will turn on them once their purpose has been served and they grow bored of using them to get at Harry for that letter he sent to them about leaving Meghan’s family alone.
The press needs to be called out.
Thomas is a revolting man. But the guy is 74. Clearly has some mental health issues.
I have already said why I suspect he is dependant on prescription drugs such as valium. He has been photographed with beer he claims he doesn’t drink.
He is an elderly, unwell man likely under the influence when he has given some of these interviews.
It’s not ethical to continue using this sad man to sell papers or embarrass they royal family or whatever their game is.
Thomas is a bad man but he’s also vulnerable to exploitation.
If he was a nice doddering old, unwell, medicated man people would rightly be screaming why isn’t his daughter protecting him.
He is not nice. But his daughter should take all action possible to shame the press off him.
She is a strong woman capable of standing up for herself. This idea that she is a royal now and must silently turn the other cheek is ridiculous. She needs to do whatever she feels will stop this for her, and her sad sack of a dad.
She sure as heck should be thinking for herself and solving this the way she wants to. She is not a child or a weak woman who can’t make her own decisions because she is now a princess. Palace staff are there to assist her. This is her outside family. She needs to call the shots. The palace approach has failed.
I agree silence was the best first choice. And she has tried it admirably. But that strategy has clearly failed. It has been months. Vacation is almost over, she will be making more appearances, and perhaps announcing a pregnancy.
If this was going to go away, it would have by now.
This has given me pause for thought. I agree that MM is a strong, capable and extremely intelligent women. I would always have suggested silence on her part.
With the support she has in place from KP and the BRF, I see where this idea could be favourable.
Reese, if silence is working for her, that is what she should continue doing. I fully agree with you.
If silence is not enough for her, she needs to be able to take whatever action is necessary.
Anytime abuse is taking place the victim needs to be supported in acting on her own behalf. Embarrassment or attention should never make a victim feel she cannot act.
Unfortunately Meghan is being clearly abused by her own father. I hope she is currently free to do whatever she wants for herself.
ITA
It’s so heartbreaking to see her absused like this in the public. Shame on the media for giving this man platform to publicly abuse and shame his daughter.
I’m so tired of people using “He’s elderly” as an excuse for his horrific behavior! I’m in my sixties, and let me tell you, barring Alzheimer’s or degenerative disease where you lose your faculties, you still have the choice to behave like a nice person or a jerk!! Old people don’t get a free pass to be awful. (I intend to be a sweet old lady, despite my earlier comment…)
@nikki
I do not think his age is an excuse for his horrible behavior. He has probably been a self centered man his whole life.
I think he has some issues going on that possibly impair his judgement. He self reports valium use. His age is something that should be considered by the press.
He is not a nice man. But the press should consider his level of impairment before publishing his bizarre fantasy filled interviews.
On the other hand, Harry plus Meghan could decide to step down and they would be private people straight away, meaning if the press reports anything on them they could sue the hell out of the press. Furthermore who would the press then talk about? William? Charles? Eugenie? The press have got something to loose, Harry and Meghan could only win.
I agree it would be in interesting solution. And Harry probably has days he fervently wishes that was his lot.
But why on earth should his marriage to this woman be a cause for them to walk away in shame!
The parties in the wrong are the press and the bad dad. They are the parties that need to be sent into a corner.
No, not walk away in shame. They would decide to live a happy and peaceful life. I would not put up with the tabloids. The tabloids need them, they are the ones who bring them money.
I agree with everything you said.
Obviously Meghan sells and the press will lose. Daily Fail and the likes are on the downhill.
The BRF got more popular because of the union between Harry and Meghan. Without them it’s a snooze fest. The press was desperately looking for Meghan in the last weeks but no one was bothered to ask where the future Queen Consort was at. That’s telling.
Kate is on maternity leave, everyone knows they were in Mustique/home for the summer holidays. The Press gives them privacy during their private time.
Creme, I do agree with you that a private life might be a nice way for Harry to reduce drama in his life. He probably daydreams about it
You don’t really believe that? Do you?
If Harry were to step down and, as you say, become a ‘private person’ he would still be the grandson of Elizabeth II, the Queen, and the son of Charles, the future king. As a private man this former prince would never have a day of peace.
No I do not think this is what Harry should do. I said so above. He does probably daydream occasionally about a simpler life
@Suki I was thinking about what you wrote “his very expensive Lifestyle”.
Around 40-50 years ago Princes used to be Playboys. Always having a large group of women around them, gambling in Casinos, driving formula one cars or financing them. Always party, party, party. Being on Yachts in Monte Carlo. None of these “Playboys” walked to the south pole or launched something like the invictus games. They also would never have done anything for ill African children.
This would be a lifestyle which costs a lot of money. I do not see Harry in this category. So what do you mean with very expensive?
Harry’s new apartment in Kensington Palace would be, at minimum, over £30m to buy or £100,000 per month to rent. He, plus William and Kate, cost the Duchy of Cornwall over £5m every year (this is for other expenses, not including housing) and this is going to go up now that Meghan is involved. That, by any means, is an extremely expensive lifestyle.
I think it’s general payback. Partly for Harry’s letter but also for things like the statement from KP saying photographers could be shot for taking George’s picture when he’s in a public place. And perhaps partly for the “summer of Diana” last year where the tabs/paps were again blamed for Diana’s death by Will and Harry (never mind the drunk driver, lack of seat belts, and available Ritz hotel room that Diana and Dodi could have used that night versus trying to race across Paris to Dodi’s apartment.)
If a statement is made (and I don’t think one should be), it should come from Meghan, not Harry. And if she does make a statement I agree she should not use the words pathetic and abusive. People who view the Markles conduct that way don’t need to hear those words to know how they see the situation. People who don’t see it that way won’t have their minds changed by Meghan saying those words. And the words would add unneeded fuel to an already-public fire. No way the Markles response wouldn’t be sought and published if Meghan makes a public statement. As hard as it must be, never complain, never explain really is best IMO.
Sometimes what works best for a victim of family abuse is distance and silence.
Sometimes remaining passive causes further harm to the victims self esteem.
What is most important here is this woman gets through this with her self esteem intact.
We have no way of knowing what she is feeling. The best we can hope for is that she is able to respond to this in a way that does not diminish her personally.
I appreciate that the DM is having enormous fun with this story, but really, do you think we’ll be talking about her POS family a year from now? At some point, even the DM will become fatigued with the endless sniping and backstabbing and move on. The royals play the long game. Doria won’t have any more luck than anyone else. As long as the tabloids are willing to pay the Markle family cash money for their made-up drama, they will continue to spew it.
Yes, this story is from the Daily Fail, the tabloid that has paid them all to talk trash about Meghan. The Daily Fail is in the gutter itself, just more garbage to ignore. They’re only assuming that anyway. These people don’t have a relationship with her at all and haven’t seen her in years. Doria is the only one who has a relationship with her and rightfully so, and she won’t be dragged into it. I say carry on and ignore, ignore, ignore. The Markles will ooze out of the woodwork again when a pregnancy is announced, but once again, these trashbags do not and have not had a relationship with her in years. Love the story about the beer being for someone else, lol. How juvenile, oh man.
Truly! I live in a gated community. If I tried giving alcohol to an on duty guard they couldn’t take it, even “for later”. They’d be fired.
It’s interesting that the people who are most insistent on her being so embarrassed by this are the exact people who are trying to embarrass her, the press. Most of the people I’ve heard discuss it feel overwhelming sympathy for her, and don’t see the point of the incessant coverage. The press are the only ones who think they are owed status updates on whether or not this woman intends to speak to each individual member of her trash family.
I hope the new Duchess will continue to say nothing. Her very toxic relatives have blanketed themselves in shame but they are so ignorant they don’t realize it. She has a new supportive family and a wonderful mother. The Markles can fuck off!
Meghan should never, never sit down and grant an interview to the press. That would be the dumbest solution in trying to end this manufactured drama. The Markles will never stop talking and the media will never stop reporting what they say especially if it’s new or inflammatory about Meghan and Harry. Meghans only statement should be that this is a private family matter that will be handled privately. Don’t feed the media anything else.
Diana thought she could work with the media too…
Yes it would literally fan the flames. In ways I see this torrent of abuse from the press and the Markles as baiting her to engage. The long view is important here.
Agreed. Silence is killing them. They already are recycling old conversations, no new photos, etc. Any kind of comment or interview on Meghan’s part would be grist for the mill.
This is a press palace problem on the surface.
It has slowly emerged that this family has a history that has been complicated.
We are seeing a father abuse and shame his daughter publicly in the media.
She should take action allows her to move past this story without damage to her own self esteem.
If silence is what will do this for her, that is what she should do. If a different solution is what she feels she needs to do for herself, she should do it.
The real story here is this woman and her father. If staying silent makes her feel like a victim and harms her sense of self, she should not stay silent.
What is most important way down the road is that her self esteem is not permanently harmed by this.
She may not be able to get this completely out of the media for a while. Palace PR is not the most important concern here.
Meghan needs to act for herself. In a way that does not leave her feeling like a victim.
This situation is family abuse. Not physical. But the evidence is abundant that emotional abuse is at least as harmful, if not more damaging.
Victims of abuse be supported if they wish to take action to stop the abuse. No matter who they are.
A victim taking action to stop the abuse sometimes draws attention to it. Or is embarrassed further.
This story is the best example that abuse can happen to anyone.
Let’s hope that Meghan says or does whatever she feels she needs to to make the abuse stol.
This is a poor strategy of saying how embarrassed she is to the press. Do they honestly think this family cares? If anything, this will encourage them fore to speak out and antagonize her even more because they see it’s working. This is the goal of the misfit markle’s….to make Meghan’s life absolutely miserable.
Really though, who is miserable? The washed up, worn out, old druggy with alcohol and possibly drug issues who’s “constantly being hounded by the press” through his own goddamned stupidity? The half-brother who always looks like he’s been dragged through a hedge backwards, who has put a gun to his fiancees head and who also has addiction/alcohol issues? The half-sister who’s in a wheelchair consumed with anger and bitterness and mental health issues, with the mentality of a 12 year-old and the IQ of a mushroom? Who’s miserable? Not Meghan. You go, girl! Don’t look back.
Where did I say they accomplished making her miserable? Reading is fundamental. I said it is their GOAL. MM in no way should respond to the them in the press. Narcs feed off of attention whether it is good or bad. If MM responds in any way they will never let up and go in even harder. She needs to keep gray rocking it and moving forward living her life.
The abusers are never ever happy content people when family abuse takes place.
Pity for the victim is a natural reaction. I am guilty of it myself in this situation. Empathy and unconditional support for what the victim wants to do help most.
Cheering her on for being a strong person, capable of responding if needed, is what she and all other women need in this situation.
Could be a man needing support too.
Agree! 100%!
@ Avery, I didn’t say you said that; it’s the Daily Mail that apparently thinks so, which is what the title of this thread is all about. This is just my viewpoint when I look at the overall picture. I agree with you absolutely. She shouldn’t ever respond, ever. Her father’s offspring, and he himself, aren’t even smart enough to figure out why they weren’t invited to her wedding, lol. Her father was but blew that one, didn’t he? Personally I like the way it worked out. I loved seeing Charles walk her to Harry and seeing the royal family embrace her mother. All of it was lovely.
@ Leigh-Klein Please accept my apology!
We’re good, Avery.
I have my doubts this is Meghan’s or Palace’s strategy, I think it’s the DM/ media making up a story ( Doria to intervene, Meghan going to Canada and USA, Meghan humiliated) to continue the drama. It looks like Meghan’s strategy is stay quiet and wait Markles out. I think best response, sure they will pop back up for big events but they will largely fade into background eventually.
Didn’t this fool, a week before the royal wedding, write a warning letter to Prince Harry warning him to not marry cold calculating Meghan? Now Meghan is not cold on her own but because Harry is making her? Big eye roll
I don’t think Doria will get involved. The second she does Meghan’s father will run to the press and complain “And now Doria is harassing me! My own daughter won’t communicate me and is making her mother do her dirty work.” I don’t think Meghan wants Doria to become part of this story and I don’t think she would want her father running his mouth about her mom to the press. It would only give fuel to the fire. So far the press has mostly left Doria alone. They were complimentary of her wedding appearance and apart maybe in the beginning when she was getting hounded when we first learned Meghan was with Harry. Getting her involved would just be great media fodder for the press and my guess is Meghan will take the fall for her mom because she wants her mom to be left alone.
As for Harry’s letter, it might be payback but I’m glad he said something at the time. The fact the press keeps giving the Markle family a platform is a clear sign of racism aimed at Meghan. We have never heard this much from Kate’s extended family apart from a few comments here and there from her uncle Gary who in the long run hasn’t really done much damage.
@Amelie, it’s racism on the part of the DM, Sun and other tabloids, absolutely. But the increased press attention on the Markles as compared to the Middleton/Goldsmiths is also in part because of Carole’s media strategy of befriending Paul Dacre (DM proprietor). Doria is not in a position to do that.
why is no one talking about those SHOES!!!! KILLAH! to die for!!! love love love
I guess you don’t wear designer shoes often…..
Bonjour je viens de France je suis un grand de celebitchy
Salut!!! Moi aussi je viens de France.
Wow super de rencontrer des compatriotes ici.
D’accord avec toi que la meilleure solution c’est le silence. Elle devrait juste continuer sa vie avec Harry normalement. De toute façon ils sont ensemble devenus le couple le plus populaire de la famille royale. La presse le sait c’est pourquoi ils écrivent tout et n’importe sur eux pour faire de l’argent.
Bonne arrivée ici. Douce Meghan. (très cool ton pseudo, 😉)
La meilleur réponse ce le silence
Je trouve ça bizarre que les tabloids
Paie les gens qui crache du venin est raconte du mensonge quant ils interview aux gens qui disent de shose positifs sur Méghan ils disparaît comme l’ex mari de samantha sa fille sa mère la maman de l’ex petit ami du Meg ont ne les plus jamais entendu parler d’eux après leurs interview de vérité à propos de Meg ce vraiment scandaleux les Média
@ Douce Meghan
Vous avez des bon points……mais…..vous ne parlez pas anglais? La plupart des gens ici n’apprecieront pas vos points si vous ecrivez en francais
I think this break is the real problem. I understand that Meghan and Harry want some privacy, but it wouldn’t hurt to see them do some engagements so the focus and bulk of Meghan’s PR is around her charity work and less on her family. The conversation isn’t changing because the media has nothing else to talk about.
@Derrière
Agree. The Best strategy would be to change the convo. Fast track Meghan patronages. Make her do her charity events, public speeches, and whatnots.
That, plus her fashion, will dominate the headlines.
I think she should make it a priority to front a charity that supports victims of various types of abuse, but in particular, the specific types she’s suffering – verbal abuse, harassment, bullying, etc.
I think that would be an awesome response to her abusers without ever having to directly confront them.
Agreed @loislane and @Bella. Why aren’t we on their Communications team? 😂
@Derriere
search me!! 😂 😂
That strapless bra in the top pic looks soo uncomfy
British tabloids are vicious. No one has learned anything after what happened to Diana, I feel so bad for Harry and Meghan. The only solution would be to pay those markle sharks off and make them sign a NDA making it clear it is a one time payment. Meghan has 5 million, in the long term, better that rather than have them forever humiliating me. Yes they would win for the time being, but in the long run they would boicot and waste all the money, karma always finds a way. Another solution would be having the Firm suing tabloids for millions….Meghan hopes they will eventually get tired or tabloids will get tired, but it won-t happen. Now they are after another uncle, the priest one, and they haven-t started with the RAglands yet…
@bella your idea is brilliant, Charity against bullying would be awesome as response.
How can you enforce a NDA, with this lot they’ve nothing to lose.
Are you out of your mind, why should Meghan gave away the money she work so darn hard for, 12 to 14 hours on set. It took her years to get a regular paycheck.
I don’t think the Duchess and PH are sitting around waiting for the latest recycled garbage from wanna be blackmailers.
Daddy dearest will most likely do his weekend hachette job, they’re just pissing in the wind.
Well written! I agree that she may want to make a statement as the writer suggested. I would probably add that she and Samantha have close to a 20 year age difference and have no relationship…adding, “the only things she knows about me is what she reads from the tabloids or hears from my dad”. Samantha is behind all the interviews…she sets them up for her dad and probably negotiates the fee, taking a cut for herself of course. He most certainly is unwell and she gets Thomas Sr riled up. She’s a master manipulator and sadly has a very dark and disturbed heart. I can’t imagine how devastating this all is for MM.