Months ago, I was startled – but unsurprised – to learn that Caitlyn Jenner is dating a very young woman. Caitlyn is 68 years old, and her girlfriend is Sophie Hutchins, and Sophie is now 22 years old. They got together when Sophie was either 20 or 21. I think Sophie is still technically a college student, which… adds another layer to the dysfunction. Sophie has been Caitlyn’s date at many events around Hollywood, and it’s been clear throughout the year that they’re together. They’re also living together at this point. But don’t you dare call them girlfriends. Sophie chatted with Jim Breslo about her relationship with Caitlyn and she’s weirdly pedantic. Some quotes:
On her relationship with Caitlyn: Hutchins said simply they “share a life together. I wouldn’t describe it as a romantic relationship. I would describe our relationship as we’re partners, we’re business partners. We have so much in common; we see the world so similarly and we both are such a good match for each because we challenge each other. She challenges me in so many ways, has allowed me to grow in so many ways and I hope I challenge her to grow and I think because we share so many of the same passions and views, it’s just a great match, a great partnership.”
She doesn’t need a label: “I don’t think we need to talk about, ‘Is it romantic or not?’ We’re partners in everything we do, we’re inseparable, we’re business partners, we live together, we share a dog, we share family, we share a life together. As far as caving into the media and having one of us label it as something, we’re not gonna do that.”
Whether she ever dated another transgender person: “I would not say we’re dating. I would back up, I would say we are partners. I would not use the word ‘girlfriend,’ I would not use the word ‘dating.’ We’re partners.”
The age gap: Hutchins also spoke to the pair’s age gap, claiming that it’s “there, but we don’t feel that it’s there. I see we are two souls that are a fantastic match for one another and I feel that we’re so blessed to have found each other and to be so supportive of one another in everything that we do. I feel beyond blessed that we’ve been able to keep it going for the time we’ve been able to keep it going. I don’t think of the age difference as anything… for us, it’s not even a factor.”
I truly don’t understand the linguistic twists and turns here, and I don’t get why it would be controversial or weird or even NOTABLE to say “yes, we’re dating, yes, we live together, yes she’s my girlfriend and partner.” Why all the pedantic loops about “don’t say we’re dating” or “I wouldn’t describe it as a romantic relationship.” WTF? Is she an idiot? Or does Caitlyn have a lot of “rules” about how they discuss each other? Or is Sophie just trying to sound very smart and very mature, and she ends up sounding like a complete a–hole?
Photos courtesy of WENN, Getty.
Wow, that was a bizarre read. I can’t imagine why she’d simultaneously shy away from admitting to dating yet and call them soulmates and partners in life.
She’s really pretty and Caitlyn’s fashion sense is atrocious. Her hair looks good, though.
Do you find her pretty? it’s not even her real face…i really don’t understand american standard of beauty…cheeks,lips…everything is fake…
I agree. those lips are veering into frog territory.
I think she’s pretty. I didn’t watch the video, so I can’t speak to that, but she looks very pretty in the pictures, even if I would go lighter on the makeup.
I admit these are the only photos I’ve seen of her and I haven’t seen her in videos/motion. So based on these photos, I do think she’s pretty. I guess I’m immune to frog lips at this point, lol, and I’ve definitely seen worse.
I do not find her pretty and I do not find her ugly. I just think she’s bland looking, a basic blonde who is forgettable looking. She obviously has had surgery since she is transgender and that’s very different from the typical Hollywood starlet rehauling her entire body to conform to bizarre Hollywood standards of beauty that don’t exist anywhere else.
I also think the term “dating” is weird. For me dating only applies to people who aren’t in monogamous relationships. Once you’ve decided you want to be steady, you are no longer dating. You’re in a relationship. Whenever people say “so and so” are dating when they’ve been together for years or are exclusive, to me it implies the relationship isn’t serious and they’re still playing the field.
My first thought was that she looks like a Kardashian sister, which is so, so creepy.
omg….I am traumatized by that video..this surgery is even more frightening in video than in photos…
OK, so I had to watch a clip.
first thing I noticed is that, in motion, she reminds me of Kim K. (which is all kinds of icky.) second, it looks like she’s having hard time moving her face. third, the fake lashes are too heavy for her lids and seem to be making her look drowsy. fourth, her hair keeps getting caught IN her fake lashes…PULL IT BACK, honey.
Obviously what she is saying is “WE ARE NOT HAVING SEX” and I don’t think she could have been any clearer about it. She is also trans and it is a very lonely life. It’s entirely possible Caitlyn arranges “dates” for her with a discerning clientele and this would not surprise me.
Yeah, that was my first thought but she sure was convoluted about it, which made me kinda second guess everything she said.
OK, that makes sense. Maybe that’s why she’s adamant about not calling it a romantic relationship.
Exactly, I thought she was saying they do not have sex.
Thank you, @Hunter! I also felt like she was practically screaming “we are not f@cking”, and then i thought maybe I’m crazy bc no one else seemed to interpret it that way and to me it was very clearly what she was trying to say.
Maybe there’s a lot going on there physically AND emotionally, with their individual life changes and transitions, and while they are partners and live together and care for and maybe love each other, I 💯 agree that the verbal gymnastics were her way of saying they don’t have sex together…
Yes, I think she is saying they don’t have sex.
I originally drafted some fairly negative comments about this young woman, but then watched the video. She’s also a trans woman, so I think I have to give the whole tongue twisting over labels a bit of a pass. Whatever works for them at the end of the day, I suppose.
Same. I think it’s sometimes difficult for cis men and women (myself included) to conceptualize relationships outside of traditional notions of romantic relationships. So…I just don’t do it lol. Her relationship with Caitlin is whatever she say it is.
Thank you leigh and lobbit: the only responses to at all take into account the different nature “othered” relationships can sometimes take
They’re companions. Boom, saved you 14 minutes of confusing word salad and thirst.
Lol, that’s exactly what I was thinking. Life companions who don’t have sex with each other.
Maybe…they’re together in every way BUT physically?
I don’t know. I can’t tell on this one.
She looks like drag version of Gwyneth Paltrow or a blow-up doll version.
I find it interesting that she mentioned they were “business partners” & then again later as partners. Makes you wonder if there is some “compensation” going on. Every time I see Caitlyn all I see is Cindy Crawford.
Yeah,
I think that she is a not very bright 22 year old who thinks she is smarter than she actually is.
Does she resemble Aubrey ODay to anyone else?
Was just about to say this.
…and Shannon Tweed!
I was thinking Aubrey or Joanna Krupa from the Real Housewives of Miami.
I thought she looked like a trash version of Ivanka.
I guess she really wants us to know they don’t have 5ex?
I think that’s what this is. Asexual companionship is what she’s describing. And I don’t think it’s Caitlyn that is insisting on that.
The weird way she describes this sounds like she is trying to keep Caitlyn on the hook with the promise of romance but really they are closer to besties where one side (Caitlyn) is always hoping it will blossom into more. I really hope that I am wrong for Caitlyn’s sake, but something seems off here.
I agree. I read it as her clarifying that she has no interest in a sexual relationship with Caitlyn.
LOL !!!!!!!!!!! I think you nailed it! Or rather didn’t since they don’t do it (get it!!!!! It’s a pun….I’ll show myself out)
That’s exactly what she’s saying. Maybe neither of them has much of a sex drive and this works for them.
This
Yes, it sounds exactly like that – a no-sex statement. Weird for her to be so indirect and yet so adamant about it.
What I read is: Caitlyn is my sugar-mama, and I’m the arm candy that says words.
You hit the pin head on the head, she’s a kept young woman.
That’s what it seemed like to me.
To me she resembles Kim Kardashian, and I find it disturbing
Same kosmetic surgeons?
THAT’S WHAT I SAID!
It’s much more noticeable in the video than still pics.
I think she looks like Melanica.
Her eyes seems so vacant, wonder what’s going on with her. I’m wondering if she’s on something, or is she embarrass to be dating a woman with children older than she is, just wondering.
As she clearly stated, they are NOT dating. I don’t believe they have a physical relationship which also explains why they are not affectionate and cuddly at all.
They are buddies with similar history (trans) and it is a lonely life.
Caitlyn is lonely because she’s a raging narcissist who abandoned two families before marrying PMK and while some of the abandonment of that third family may have been a little more mutual, with Caitlyn’s history I doubt it would have gone differently. I loathe the whole Jenner/Kardahsian brand (its hard to refer to them as family at this point) but Caitlyn did say some pretty shitty and tone deaf things about her latest ex and mother of her last two children so I think it’s reasonable that the J/K children are pissed off.
I hear not wanting to admit you have to have sex with a 68 year old …. we’re just PARTNERS!!!!! And I am so going to hit her up for palimony when this ends. Note that she says they share everything … future lawsuit.
At 22, I wouldn’t be wasting my life on a 68 year old problematic idiot. Hopefully she runs far away from Caitlin.
This I agree with!
So are they roommate, buddies, lovers, or what? When someone twists and turns to avoid actually answering a question, it makes them look dishonest, but it keeps people interested
Estrangé.
Sophie is also trans, yes? I think what’s going on is clear. Caitlyn wants Sophie, but will settle for being BFF’s. Sophie wants Caitlyn’s money and notoriety and would like to be an “indispensible” BFF/ right hand figure for Caitlyn.
Sophie is trying to tread the fine line of getting all that without having to bang Caitlyn.
Sophie needs to work on her wig game, it’s looking Melania levels of bad here.
She’s cute in pics but wowza scary from plastic surgery in the video. I don’t know if I’ve ever seen a mouth move that way.
This is exactly what I was thinking. she’s throwing the “matching souls” and “partners” to keep Caitlyn happy but she’s also making sure to tell the world she’s not really into romantic/sexual stuff with her. Its quite sad
She does a lot of jaw slides while talking. Getting used to a whole new set of lips/cheeks is hard. A SLP could help.
Whats an SLP?
Speech language pathologist 😉
Or is she using Caitlyn for the notoriety but open to other offers? Sounds like she’s keeping her options open to me.
Sound like they are both confused 🤷♀️. Anyway, I’m done thinking about these two, don’t want to end up confused myself.
I think she’s trying to say that this relationship is a mutually beneficial business decision for them both. She gets to become a celebrity and earn money be being Kardashian adjacent, or atleast that’s their plan, and Jenner gets to have a date to events, so it doesn’t look like she’s a ‘sad lonely loser’ when Kris is dating. Their living situation is such to ensure that it seems real to the outside world, only maybe this girl just ruined that image.
It actually really reminded me of what the “Playmate Girlfriends” Holly and Kendra would say about Hugh Hefner… like weird careful denials and language about sex… when Kendra was caught “cheating” on Hefner with her future husband she said something like, “I’m 22, I need to have sex” or something like that.
DING DING DING DING DING!!!
^^^^ We have a winner!
Agreed.
Perhaps Caitlyn Jenner wants her own “Kardashian family”? So she got a surrogate granddaughter / business partner / companion?
Yeah, it sounds like a Sugar Mama arrangement without sex. Caitlin pays for everything and in return gets companionship and something pretty to look at.
All this hemming and hawing is definitely about them not actually having sex.
100% agreed.
Uh, maybe they have an asexual relationship and they like it that way?
Asexual people date, have boyfriends/girlfriends and spouses, and don’t deny that despite not having sex. It’s aromantic people who don’t want a relationship.
Appreciate the clarification. But is it generally assumed people are binary in sexual vs asexual and romantic vs aromantic dimensions?
At any rate, it seems weird that people are all over them demanding ‘answers’. Are they deceiving the public in some way that should be criticized?
Can’t we just accept that people are complicated?
Well, she’s serving up an entire word salad about their relationship or ‘relationship’…. AND she’s sitting down with People magazine to talk about it, rambling on about it in a way that doesn’t make a lot of sense. “We’re close…but not really close, or well, we are, but not in a way I want to talk about….we’re not dating, we’re partners. I mean…we share a DOG! But I don’t want to talk about our relationship” Faced with that, it’s not surprising that people are like “hang on…what???”
A simple “we’re together and enjoy each other’s company” or whatever, and people would move on.
I recall an interview that Caitlyn gave where she said something like she wasn’t ruling out dating or having a relationship with men. I had the impression she’s so deeply repressed and confused she might not act on her “real”
impulses…
Based on her past interviews, I always felt Caitlyn is homophobic. It would explain the “men should date women” rhetoric she casually dropped when she came out as trans. Honestly, if Cait has taught us anything, it’s that trans people can be horrible people too.
So they’re roommates then, lol. This is so odd.
That surgery and make up makes her look like a 45 year old clinging to youth… not a 22 year old.
Was going to say – I’m 29 (though admittedly look young for my age – people usually guess around 24) and she looks old enough to be my mother…. pretty but def Real Housewife vibes there
oh, I honestly did not know she was transgendered also. wow.
Do you know what ‘pedantic’ means? It seemed like you learned a new word and were very excited to use it; in the title and three times in the article! Buy a new thesaurus.
Hey Elle, here’s a word for you: Didactic
I don’t know if other people watched the video, but that was a really strange interview. Sophia says that “Bruce” did a great job raising his children. It seems odd that she chose to use the name Bruce. I understand he was going by “Bruce” at that point, but it still seems odd.
Also, Sophia’s comments about the foundation she runs for Caitlyn are, again, odd. She talks about giving donations to organizations that have operating budgets of $10,000 or less. If that’s the case, they aren’t giving away much in donations.
Also, she talks about Caitlyn getting a Mac Cosmetic deal. She said Caitlyn “allows her name to be used” and a percentage of that money goes to trans organizations. That’s not how foundations work. Also, it’s weird that she talks about Caitlyn’s cosmetic deal when she has posted photos of herself with Kylie Jenner’s cosmetics. You would think she would only promote Caitlyn’s line since that is where the money comes from.
She says she wants to be in entertainment. She picked the right “partner” for that.
I don’t want to be a naysayer, but there is something really shady about Sophia and the Caitlyn Jenner Foundation.
Is it weird to think that the way Hutchins describes their relationship sounds like both lovers and a dysfunctional parent-child relationship? Considering that age gap it is more like grandmother-granddaughter with some sexual intimacy included? Or geriatric nurse and patient?
Weird.
I was not particularly fond of Bruce and I’m not fond of Caitlyn. I dgaf what you identify as being it’s a personal decision that absolutely should be respected, but I can’t stand the insufferable personality. One would think strife generally makes a person more compassionate.
In this case, nope. Still ignorant as ever.
If I could pick any soul to connect to, it wouldn’t be Caitlyn’s.
Hehe I love her!!! Just watching her mannerisms , I was mesmerised. I think she sounds incredibly thoughtful, bright, confident and moralistic. I’m not a fan of Caitlyn but I think Sophia will be a good influence on her.
She comes across very differently on the video as opposed to reading the transcript. And looks very different in photos vs video. I never realised before that Sophia was transgender, it seems more apparent in the video. She looks like Kim, a little, but also Christina Aguilera, genie in a bottle era.
I’m surprised there are so many negative comments here. They’re companions, friends, business partners and there is nothing to freak out about here.
Caitlin has said homophobic things in the past. Like many posters already said, it could be a Hugh Hefner business arrangement situation. Or does Caitlin have some hangups? As Bruce (a man married to women) she probably viewed herself as straight or had benefited from the social standing that came with it. Now that she publicly identifies as a transwoman, does she consider herself gay if she dates women or worried she will be labelled gay? And that’s why she is is reluctant to use the label girlfriend?
Yes, you’re right. There was an interview with Caitlyn’s friend Jenny Boylan in the NY Times in 2015 where Jenny said that after Caitlyn transitioned, she couldn’t bring herself to admit that she was still attracted to women because she doesn’t want to be “gay”. Her girlfriend Sophia also refused to answer the question about her “sexual orientation” now that she’s involved with a trans woman. Sophia was a gay man before transitioning but said she didn’t identify as gay. Neither one of them wants to be “gay”, hence all the fog around “girlfriends”, “dating”, “labels”, etc.
Just watching the video and noting how exhausting it seems to be a high maintenance woman. All that makeup & fake tan & the blowouts …..omg. I love makeup and beauty products, but I’m too freaking worn out to worry about it.
Anyway, re Sofia or Sophia? I think she’s pretty when she gives a cute smile. Otherwise too botoxed & fish-lipped.
Yo, she looks like Ivanka.
(must be the pedantics).
Too Young Girlfriend also makes it a point to insist Caitlyn didn’t vote for Trump. Didn’t! Wouldn’t! Not her!
Caitlyn: I voted for Trump.
Seriously…girlfriend is just trying to maintain her status quo WITHOUT rocking the boat…she can’t announce out right that CAIT AND I ARE JUST PLATONIC FRIENDS THAT SHARE CLOTHES BUT NOTHING ELSE…cause obviously that wouldn’t bode well for her…as Cait has kinda pushed the opposite narrative herself with being coy and invasive….
WTF “Share a life together” but “aren’t in a relationship? What the hell does that mean? This is a large age difference.
It sounds as though she has slipped into the role played by Kris Jenner in managing Caitlyn’s activities: scheduling and promoting speaking engagements, promotions, etc. So sex may not actually be involved although they may be open to it at some point. It may just not be terribly important at the moment.
She seems quite organized and knows what she is doing. Philanthropy focused on small organizations can be very effective, and it can allow a group to pay full time staff. Activists often struggle with the need to make a living while handling other unpaid obligations. Paid staff lets them go beyond people who are independently wealthy or who have a spouse or partner who can make enough money for both of them.
I wonder if they have thought about using the social justice/ethical fund model, rather than relying just on Caitlyn’s money.
I’m assuming it’s more of a Hugh Hefner situation where they share lives, have probably hooked up, but they are using each other for other reasons such as money or not wanting to be alone. Caitlyn doesn’t have much of a relationship with her own children. And why oh why did a plastic surgeon allow Sophie to do that to her nose, lips and cheeks??