I feel like we sometimes oversell Michelle Obama and George W. Bush’s friendship. They really aren’t hanging out together on the Texas ranch, nor are they going off on couple vacations together. They’re affectionate work friends, the way I see it. They see each other at big events, like museum openings and memorials, and since they get along, they tend to be seated next to each other. Sometimes they hug, sometimes he makes sure to pass her some candy at a memorial. I tend to think we cling to Michelle and Dubya’s friendship because they seem like an anchor of grace and cross-party friendship in a hurricane of fascist shenanigans. Michelle seems to think the same – she’s not here to polish Dubya’s legacy, but she does call him “a beautiful, funny, kind, sweet man.” Oh, MO. You’re way too kind.
Since Michelle Obama shared a sweet public embrace with George W. Bush in 2016, the world has been intrigued by their friendship — considering their differing political identities. The former first lady opened up about her bond with the former president, 72, and their differences in opinions during an interview with his daughter, Jenna Bush Hager.
“So you know … I got a text from my dad this morning that said, ‘Send Michelle my love,’ ” Jenna, 36, said during the sit-down that will air on NBC News’ TODAY on Wednesday morning. “I was like, ‘Don’t you call her Mrs. Obama?’ He’s like, ‘No, I call her Michelle.’ He said, ‘Send her my love.’ And I thought, you know, it’s so interesting how people are so interested in y’all’s friendship. I mean that hug was, like, the hug that went around the world. I do love that picture.”
“That’s your dad,” Obama, 54, responded.
“Why do you think people are so hungry for that, though?” Jenna asked the Becoming author.
“Because I think the political discourse, the way it’s shown in the media, is — it’s all the nasty parts of it. You know? Because I guess we’ve become a culture where nasty sells. So people are just gonna keep feeding that,” the mother of two explained. “But the truth is much more complicated and complex than that. And I’d love if we as a country could get back to the place where we didn’t demonize people who disagreed with us. Because that’s essentially the difference between Republicans and Democrats.We’re all Americans. We all care about our family our kids, and we’re trying to get ahead… We have different ideas about what’s the best way to get there.”
However, she clarified, “that doesn’t make me evil. And that doesn’t make him, you know, stupid. It’s just a disagreement and that’s how I feel about your father. You know? He’s a beautiful, funny, kind, sweet man. And I don’t know that I agree with him on everything.”
I’m trying not to go Full Curmudgeon here, because I’ll admit it, I have been moved (temporarily) by Dubya and Michelle’s friendship at times. She’s not looking at him as a man who lied America into a war and got thousands of people killed because of those lies. She’s looking at him as a rumpled old Republican who is trying to burnish his legacy a bit. Plus, he passes her candy and likes to flirt with her. I tend to believe Michelle has always had to fend off attention from guys like Dubya, and she’s learned how to do it with grace.
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She’s being the EXAMPLE. I love her even more.
Agree. She sees the best in people even when they don’t deserve it. I will never criticize Michelle, ever. She is a goddess.
This is some BS. Same people on the Hugh Jackman post “cancelling” his ass because he spoke kindly of and maintains a relationship with the Kushners. Bush might be fun to have a brandy with or whatever but he is complicit in and responsible for some very destructive and costly policy decisions, and moreso than Ivanka.
What’s going on in the Hugh Jackman thread?
Good point baby Jane
Thank you BabyJane. Bush is responsible for unleashing violence and murder all over the world and destabilizing many countries. He is responsible for an illegal war based on lies. There are places he can’t travel because he is considered a war criminal. He stole an election with the complicity of the Supreme Court. He was responsible for a whisper campaign against John McCain, “accusing” him of having a black child (ie. having sex with a black woman) to win the South Carolina primary, employing racism against black people and McCain’s Bangladeshi adopted daughter. He let black people drown in Hurricane Katrina. WTF?
@Wisca Agreed on all. I just can’t get behind this.
But she was being interviewed by his daughter. Was it really the appropriate place to rip him apart for her views on this presidency? I think she may have answered very differently if asked the same question by a different interviewer.
Very destructive and costly…..
Probably in the millions dead in the end, millions displaced, trillions of dollars spent for absolutely nothing but he is a beautiful, funny, kind, sweet many. My ass.
I love Lady O. She’s one of my heroes, but George Bush is trash and I cannot ever accept him. He helped destroy this country along with Death Cheney. To hell with W.
He may be a nice person to be friends with, but his actions and ideology descended our country into needless debt, chaos and pain. I don’t know why she’s helping white wash his reputation.
I can’t get past what he and his administration have done either, but her relationship with him is vastly different than ours. I don’t think she forgets for a second what he’s done, but she has to deal with him on a personal level at a lot of events and things, and she’s too gracious and classy to be anything but friendly. And she’s being interviewed by his daughter.
The Bushes by all accounts were kind and helpful to the Obamas during the 2008 transition, and the Obamas are too classy to refuse that. Plus I think there’s been some “OMG, Trump is the worst” bonding since 2016.
Agreed. He started a war because he was mad that a guy once tried to kill his daddy. Countless people were injured and killed. The region is unstable and will be for decades. His incompetent government let his own nation’s people suffer and die after Hurricanes Katrina and Rita.
Kanye West was right about him.
I’m not saying she shouldn’t be polite to him, but maybe lay off draping her arms around him or effusively praising him to the media.
@eliza 1000%
Millions are dead because Bush wanted revenge for a failed assassination attempt on his father. if Michelle wants to set an example, hug Bob Dole.
He also actively worked to obtain votes for Kavanaugh. I admit, I was getting sucked in by this “new and improved” Dubya but after seeing that, nope.
Yup. He advocated to put a rapist and a petty, immature partisan with anger issues on the Supreme Court.
George W. Bush has spent his life failing upwards. He used race-baiting tactics against John McCain in the primaries. He gave George Tenet the Medal of Freedom. He used anti-gay bigotry as a way to get his supporters to vote. Communities were taking up collections to buy body armor for soldiers because of how badly the wars were handled. It just goes on and on.
A lot of people are kind, sweet and funny when it makes them happy to be that way. Those same people also behave terribly when it makes them happy to be that way too. They just do whatever makes them happy and meets their needs. I want more from a person than hoping I’m in the approved group that won’t be hurt by this person’s actions.
That was disappointing for me, too. I wanted to believe he had matured, but no.
Per Wikipedia: There were over 151,000 violent deaths due to the war in Iraq by June 2006 according to credible estimates. By June 2011, there were 461,000 deaths, the majority (60%) of them violent.
Per me: This is likely in many ways in underestimate because the invasion destabilized Iraq and lead to ISIS.
I have a complicated relationship with W because as an HIV nurse I cannot forget PEPFAR as a hugely important thing that saved (and is saving) millions of lives. However, I think most Presidents (Clinton, the HW, Obama) would have done the same if they had been in office at the same moment, while W is the only one who would have invaded Iraq.
He’s like 21st century Caligula. the man is an old fool who needs to stand trial for war crimes along with Tony Blair.
Just goes to show that it’s a big club and we ain’t in it. The Obamas joined it as soon as he got elected, or sooner. Just because they seem more gentile than some of the others, they get a pass. Obama killed plenty of men women and children with his droning, he’s no good guy either and Michelle hanging all over the chimp doesn’t help her image either.
I have had to rethink my opinion about W., especially since Trump. No, I don’t agree with him about everything and he authorized some things that were damaging and we are feeling the effects to this day. However, I have never questioned the man’s humanity, so I can see why Michelle likes him. It is crazy that Kanye could be so bold to call W. out yet be onboard with Trump. Sigh…what crazy times.
Bush lied his way into a war that is STILL killing thousands…Bush has no humanity…NONE!
Miles and Lala, I respectfully disagree but I get your point.
Because Trump is so abhorrent Bush is getting off easier now.
Nope.
Never forget.
Just because Trump is awful doesn’t negate what Bush did. That man created a war that’s killed millions of innocent people and has left Iraq in shambles with thousands still dying every year. He’s an awful POS too.
No Trump doesn’t negate what Bush did. I acknowledged that he decisions are still being felt to this day. I respect where you are coming from but disagree.
His decisions aren’t just being felt: they are still killing dozens of people every day. The fact that most of those who suffer aren’t US citizens doesn’t negate that they are being killed and exploited because W wanted to show he could win a war his daddy couldn’t.
Don’t forget Afghanistan. They had nothing to do with 911 either it was Saudis.
I am a crazy leftie, but W and his family are not trash. The current crew.🙄
Then you’re no true leftie if you give Bush a pass. He’s no sweet old man, he’s a torturing butcher.
Non-american muslim woman here, Trump is an incompetent POS, but Bush’s destabilisation of the Middle East killed hundreds of thousands in Afghanistan and Iraq, which ultimately lead to the rising of evermore terrorism. I’ll never understand why Americans during Bush’s presidency didn’t protest more against the war, in the way you are rightly protesting against Trump and his policies. These atrocities were sadly committed in your name and the rest of the world doesn’t distinguish the people from their government.
Nothing Trump has done yet even compares to the war criminal whose image Michelle is actively rehabilitating. I love Michelle but this has knocked her off her pedestal.
@mrsbump many of us did protest, but we were outnumbered. I do believe that particular war is what ultimately hastened the massive divide between the right and left that we are seeing now. If you spoke out against the war, you would be called “unpatriotic”, a “traitor” and so on. “Support our Troops!” suddenly became an almost cult-like credo, and if you protested the war you were said to not be honoring them. 9/11 was still very fresh in people’s minds, so that base sense of fear ruled over a lot of people’s logic. Unfortunately, even years later when most people will now admit that we were wrong for that war, that divide has gotten too deep.
I love MO, she’ll always be my favorite FLOTUS, but…
…NO. The man is a war criminal. END OF.
Who did terrible things.
Warmongering rich guy who’s cost thousands of people their lives,because….oil.He got richer from invading the Middle East and many others died.
Michelle Obama was born in raised in my neighborhood of Chicago…a neighborhood that bore and STILL bears the HORRIFIC ECONOMIC/RACIAL BRUNT…of the inhumane Republican policies on which Bush built his legacy and political narrative…a narrative that Bush is STILL pushing by using his political cache (i.e., Kavanaugh and Kirstjen Nielsen…COUNTLESS OTHERS WHO ARE ABSOLUTELY AWFUL TO DEMOCRACY)
Michelle is speaking as a rich, entitled person…whose life isn’t affected anymore regarding the policies that are still…literally KILLING folks where she is from…I don’t have time for her grace…when folks are in hell because of the man she think is a cute elf…
So…I no longer have time for Michelle….
Oh man, Lala, it is horrific what has happened to your neighborhood and countless others. Heartbreaking and seemingly hopeless. I was listening to one of the many (many!) people running for mayor of Chicago last night and he spoke of how the south and west sides get continually marginalized and I kept thinking that he is what we need…but I’m not sure he has a chance.
Thank you!! This Man is responsible for thousands of deaths and put in place policies that are still hurting millions of Americans and others around the world. Now there are some who are trying to whitewash him and pretend like he is just a harmless old grandpa.
La la, I love some of your comments. Absolutely agree on this one. A lovable exterior shouldn’t be used to downplay a dangerous administration under whom some of the worst offenders (Kirstjen, Kavanugh) of today have served. Bush might be too dumb or naive, but my god! Let’s not rebrand him at the very least. Michelle is wrong here…her strategy of taking the high road with anyone deplorable leaning is unrealistic.
Very well said! I agree 100%. By being so friendly and so kind to him she’s not just being gracious, but in a way accepting what he’s done and turning a blind eye, because like you said, she has a privileged life now.
Thanks for your comment, Dani. Totally on point. She’s communicating it’s all okay, and whether she believes that or not is irrelevant.
Nah. He isn’t.
BTW he was phoning uncertain R senators to shore up support for ole Brett K. He especially targeted Susan Collins who received several phone calls. Please do not forget that Christine Blasey Ford is still being threatened, has still been unable to return to her home, and still cannot go to work. Her life is ruined. Brett sits on the supreme court. In part due to Mr funny kind sweet here.
I agree with Girl Ninja and Darla. Trump is awful but what Bush and Cheney did was also awful. And yea, let’s not forget about Dubya’s efforts on behalf of an accused sexual assaulter (I am furious about the fact that such a loathsome person is on the Supreme Court every day). I understand Michelle has a different perspective and I love and admire her but I can’t agree with her on this one.
They sit next to each other because of protocol and through that, developed this friendship. He was the last president and she’s the first lady of his successor. I respect Michelle and trust her judgement, and I’m sure W. is a nice man. However, I will never forgive him for what he’s done to the America and the world. Historians will trace our undoing to his one stupid decision. While he’s painting on his ranch, soldiers are still dying in Iraq and Afghanistan.
+1
Not that I don’t think she was being genuine but she was talking to his daughter so maybe even unconsciously she flattered him more than she normally might.
I know W is highly problematic but he does have human qualities that set him apart from Trump. So it’s notable.
Michelle has mentioned in other her fondness of GWB. She likes him and especially in the shadow of Trump.
He’s still a liar and should be in jail for crimes against humanity. Also, his buddy Karl Rove pretty much draw the blueprints of the extremely partisan politics we now witness. W’s campaign for Texas governor against Ann Richards was super nasty and full of lies. He gets no pass, he’s a terrible person.
She really helped me change my views of him….right up until I read he was stumping for Kavanaugh and then reality set in on how deplorable he is too. He’s cancelled. She’s just a kind person.
I adore Michelle but jfc Bush is a war criminal. How easily we forget who sent us to Iraq and Afghanistan (which we are still in btw). But no he goes away for a while, paints some portraits, mildly talks shit about #45 and all the sudden hes everyone’s favorite grandpa.
There were NEVER any WMDs. That war was built on lies, ego and a lust for oil. So sad how quickly we forget and how willing we are to forgive.
I’ve always voted Democrat, but I have to say that I’d much rather spend time chatting to W. than Bill Clinton.
Same because I would have a lot more questions for GWB.
I would rather Clinton because he’s an intellectual but I saw W speak many years ago at a conference and he was funny, charming, and very likable. I walked away really frustrated because I wanted to see him fall on his face; I wanted him to be boring or to say something predictably stupid–but nah :/
They are both very charismatic and likeable men. They both also have very questionable morals and GWB is a war criminal.
You can like people you don’t always agree with. You also don’t have to trash people you disagree with. That’s what she is saying. It’s simple politeness and manners.
Sure, I don’t have to hate you if I disagree with you on the best dessert, outfit or even how much we should pay in taxes. But I’m sorry, if you think that hundreds thousands of lives is an acceptable cost of doing business, I will disagree AND hate. People’s lives are not up for polite debate!
This type of comment is beneath her. So is he. I hate to say this, but while I’ll always admire her, this makes me think less of her.
Yeah I kind of agree with you.
The wars he launched, particularly in Iraq, were catastrophic, incompetently managed, massively destructive, hugely consequential, and the dominoes are still falling to this day. The grief and misery these wars wrought on whole societies, ripping their fabric to shreds, is limitless. He does not merit this public rehabilitation.
I love Michelle. I am currently reading the book. I know politics is not her thing. I know all of these Presidents and First Ladies (Donald and Melania excepted) have little choice but to be classy, polite, cordial and friendly in public. It is a good thing. It maintains continuity. I don’t think Dubya is an unpleasant man or a racist and I do think he possesses considerably more personal decency and humanity than Trump. I am sure he can be quite charming and endearing. None of which is likely to matter one bit to the people whose lives were destroyed by his decisions.
Well said.
Totally agree. Very well said.
Well said.
@Jessica, nailed it. I think there are two things working against Trump that cause us to compare him unfavorably to W: one, he is hurting people here, and not “over there” (although obviously, veterans are sort of straddling this divide), and two, he is aesthetically far worse. I don’t just mean he’s physically less attractive, I mean he is tackier, has smaller hands, speaks less articulately with that horrible voice, he is just personally the most off-putting human being possible. But honestly, neither of those two qualities is morally relevant. Bush was, really, the worse President (except for PEPFAR). Although I live in fear that Trump catches up.
there’s a person you disagree with… and there’s a war criminal. a war criminal who was calling in favors for brett kavanagh just a handful of weeks ago.
w. is the softer side (perhaps more insidious side) of everything dump. should be shipped off to the hague until his final breath.
HE IS A WAR CRIMINAL.
I’m not here for this retroactive cleaning up of his image. Sorry, MO.
Her husband’s administration has a problematic history as well. He massively expanded domestic surveillance, and need I remind you all of his repeated insistance that there would be “no boots on the ground” in Syria, even though he deployed hundreds of US servicemembers whose boots were, in fact, in the ground? Or that he was intentionally downplaying the reality that there were thousands of crew working on aerial and drone strikes to kill many times their number overseas? Let’s be real here.
People don’t want to be real. Obama looks like an absolute saint compared to Trump. People were just so happy to finally have an African American president (as was I) that we overlooked some of Obama’s wrongs as well.
Don’t forget the secret wars abroad and of course the countless deportations at home. As for bush, don’t white wash a war criminal.
Every American president takes actions that are imperialistic and cause the unjustified death of people. Some presidents have done worse than others. Obama increased the use of drones and there are many issues around that too. I don’t disagree with those who say Bush is a war criminal, but many US presidents get close to that line as well. She’s judging him on based on his personal interactions and not the military decisions that all presidents make.
Nic919, the military industrial complex in the US – not a conspiracy theory but reality – is very powerful and has a big say in foreign policy. From people like Dick Cheney to private contractors like Academi/Xe/Blackwater, it’s a gravy train of big money. Not too sure the POTUS status is even powerful enough to counter it.
She’s talking to his daughter of all people. Look, I think Bush is a war criminal but I’m going to cut Michelle a break. What is she supposed to say about him? He probably is a kind and sweet to her, so she’s just telling her experience. If she called him an asshole, it would be a huge scandal and we all know how the media tends to treat Black women. I’ve already seen some criticism for her relatively mild criticism of Trump. Here’s another way the media has gone after her, even though she is beloved by many. The majority of tickets for her book sale are going for 20 bucks and she’s donating a portion to charity. VIP packages are about 3000, and people are scalping some of them and raising that price even higher. Some of the media are making it look like all of the tickets are going for thousands of dollars, instead of a handful, and ignoring that the bulk of the tickets are affordable and that every speaking tour charges something. Basically, she is in between a rock and a hard place.
I think she’s answered these questions about Bush awkwardly and poorly (now and before) but Michelle has shown herself to be a person of grace and dignity. So I’m not gonna jump all over her for making a few missteps. I’m tired of the media tearing down powerful women
This is a good take. It made me think, thanks.
Well said Div.
The Obama’s don’t have to play lovey-dovey with Bush in public. They could keep some polite and reserved and friendly distance. They are purposefully getting closer and that is something else than just doing what conventions require you to do, (not trash talk your predecessor and give your successor some time to settle).
Saying Bush was a funny and sweet man without criticising his military policies is a bit gross.
H.W. Bush, Jimmy Carter, W., and Clinton have all worked together on charity projects over the years. The Bushes and Clintons are very friendly and spend time together, but Michelle’s the only one getting grief over some awkwardly worded statements on a man she has probably only seen a handful of times.
I can’t think of a single first lady that has ever criticized the politics before of a previous president, even Michelle’s comments on Trump were about his racist birtherism in context towards her husband— instead of his politics as a whole. Do I wish she would? Sure. But that’s not the way the world works, the world is unfair and Michelle criticizing Bush on Iraq might endanger the Obama Foundation as it is a not a politically partisan charity, her pushing of women’s rights, healthy eating, etc. It would cause a huge scandal and would follow her for the rest of her life, when all she wants to do is remain mostly apolitical, and when gets political it is in a non-partisan way and do charity work.
I’m not saying it’s not a misstep and a bit gross (she could have just left it as “he’s a kind person”), I’m just saying Michelle is a human being and makes mistakes and I’m not going to tear her down for not being perfect—especially when the media has been relentlessly cruel and racist towards her over the years. If I had to deal with that much relentless racism and scrutiny, I would have gone crazy.
You expressed that perfectly and with the nuance and fairness that is missing from most of the comments here.
That being said, I still hate W with every fiber of my being.
Thanks Kitten, and I feel the same way about W.
I may have gone a bit overboard responding to other questions on this particular post lol, but I’m just a bit frustrated with some of the reactions I’ve seen towards Michelle for this on another site and the double standards/out of context coverage of her speaking/book tour (even far left anti-capitalist types get paid speaking fees, but Michelle’s tour, in which 95% of the tickets are extremely affordable and a big chunk is going to charity, is being spun as ‘greedy’ which drives me insane).
At the end of the day, she’s human, she makes mistakes like all of us, and people are forgetting the circumstances/tradition/protocol when it comes to First Ladies and how she’s put in an awkward spot by these type of questions—especially as most of the charity work she’s involved with is apolitical and the Obama Foundation is not a partisan political charity.
You are too kind Div in your defense of this Dubya 2.0 that michelle is staging.
She’s an incredibly intelligent woman, she knew that this question would come up.
She could simply NOT have been interviewed by his daughter, and she would have side stepped that sh!t.
It was really that easy.
I love you Michelle, but please don’t soften this man in the eyes of Gen Z. I’m sure he is a good person to his friends. That’s what makes his actions all the more awful. A lot of innocent people are dead because of him. Granted, it’s not like the Obama administration did much better to ramp down fighting over there with all the drone strikes. 9_9
Rich and powerful birds flocking together. No surprise.
I will not admire this man because of the Iraq war. I wish Michelle would try not to re invent him.
He’s a beautiful, funny, kind, sweet war criminal.
Exactly. This whole cute and cuddly white wash of GWB gets under my skin.
Does make me wonder if there would be anyone around who would have any kind words to say about the current resident of the White House when he leaves office?
No, there will be no one
not once his hold over them is gone
I had a work colleague whose husband was in the Texas senate when Dubya was governor of Texas. Oy vey, the stories she told about Dubya. When you say Michelle is used to guys flirting with her and she knows how to handle Dubya, you are right on the money. My colleague told lots of stories about how “friendly” he was to women, including her (my friend, not Michelle).
Laura Bush reminds me of a stepford wife or robot.
There is a very interesting column in NYTimes how some republican persons use Trump to sanitize their legacies https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1061692684769943554?s=21
I bet the release of the movie Vice about Dick Cheney is going to be the occasion to dig dirt or stop to be « nostalgic »
Michelle seems to have very lax standards when it comes to white men. She was fond of Harvey weinstein too. There’s that cringe inducing video of her introducing him at some event with over the top praise. She also had her daughter intern with him.
I can’t comprehend why a woc with her platform and influence capes for powerful and discpicable white men.
That’s not cool, I agree, but lots of powerful people have been very close to Harvey Weinstein. Google-image him and the Clintons, for example.
But your point still stands, that powerful people are in a special club and as much as we may like them as individuals, the vast majority of us will never break into that club.
It is interesting to watch Bush try to rehabilitate his image post-Trump. I can believe he is charming and funny and endearing in person but he made some very poor decisions whose ramifications we are still feeling to this day. He started two wars, one right around the time of my birthday (Iraq got invaded by the US end of March 2003). My middle and high school years were dominated by headlines of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and conspiracy theories of weapons of mass destruction. I’m not sure I hated him because I did not pay attention to politics back then the way I do now but I did understand even at that age that he got us into massive debt and that soldiers’ lives were being needlessly sacrificed to carry out his vendetta on the Middle East. I always said 9/11 was an excuse he used to invade Afghanistan for “national security.” Had 9/11 not occurred he would have found another way somehow. I’m 100% convinced of that.
Terrible President, read some convincing articles that point to him being a sociopath. More covert than Trump but just as dangerous.
yes, agree with everyone who despises him….he is a war criminal and was a terrible president, but lets not fool ourselves about the Iraq war under his administration. The entire war was not unique to his presidency and was very much in line with America’s history of big sticking the rest of the world. This is probably the truth of what Michelle grapples with – American Presidents have pretty much always done terrible things to other people’s countries. plus the fact is that on the flip side he is by all accounts charming and self depracating in person and has been involved in development aid and HIV in Africa both during and post presidency. That right there must soften him a bit more in her mind….just a thought….
She’s a bit too kind. 1,000,000 Iraq’s died. But appreciate what she is saying.
I just can’t on this revisionist history of W. I do not believe my morals (or anyone else’s) should shift because someone more repugnant is now in the White House. Bush is responsible not only for our service members’ deaths and PTSD, but ONE MILLION civilian Iraqi lives. I hate Trump with the burning heat of 5 billion suns, but I doubt even he has this much blood on his hands. W seems better in comparison because he is not a blatant, unhinged maniac tweeting crap at 3am. But let’s not let that blind us to his unforgivable slaughter.
These comments scare me. George W. Bush was a terrible President, one of the worst. He got so much wrong. Immigration and HIV might be the only things he was on the right path. I never questioned his motivation though. He did what he did, because he thought it was right. He was just so wrong!!!!! He lied a fair amount too, but not like now every other word is a lie. Trump does everything to benefit Trump. Trump is a classic narcissist. Trump wants to be a dictator or he’d probably like King better. There is a “bigly” difference. Lumping all the bad with the OMG this is close to catastrophic, belittles the catastrophic. This means George W. ,and others like him. could be personally nice to be around, not everything is about politics. You can like him personally, and not like him in his former capacity. I find Bush in interviews to be interesting and nice, and he is definitely a family man. I see why Michelle Obama might like him in that setting. Plus as you can see from her interviews she is big on civility. I applaud her for this.
Now I just saw Jenna Bush Hager and the reason George W. and Michelle are always together is because of protocol in seating. Which means once Trump is done being President, Barack will be next to Melania. Can’t wait, for so many reasons but I bet they get divorced so who knows.
He’s a war criminal. It’s really as simple as that. He’s responsible for the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of innocent people.
I’m sorry but cuddling up to a war criminal and calling him kind and sweet isn’t dignified or classy or graceful, and if she had talked about, say, Gaddafi that way, people would have been absolutely horrified. Bush’s crimes aren’t somehow made better by virtue of being Western and American.
As an Iraqi-American I can’t agree more. I’m no Trump supporter but I can never forgive Bush for what he did to Iraq.
Bingo. And that’s what it all comes down to, being American and western.
Right on the m*******ing money Jane.
He did it for the oil. The failed assassination attempt is a cover.
I find this very disturbing, and I find it even more disturbing that everyone else here doesn’t find it disturbing, too.
I’m sitting right here with you.
I’m with you guys too, and thumbs up to all the posters who commented on Bush and Bush Jr’s legacies. They’re psychopaths and allowed their entourages to profit off the destablisation of the Middle East, and in the process murdered countless civilians and created a tide of refugees. Maureen Dowd recently wrote a great piece on Cheney. Don’t look back with nostalgia or whatever it is just because Trump is so obviously awful.
Also IMO the Obamas have always styled themselves as celebrities (celeb friends, glamour, and personality over dull policy). Michelle is promoting a book and recently namedropped the Klooneys and Harry and Meghan (the Royals are also big into the celebrity thing) with a leak on a dinner party in London. People with actual power and responsibility to the public (or links to these) should stay away from the temptation to be (likeable) celebrities.
I like that they are buddies. She sees the good in him. I like his artistic side.
He is now the Second Worst President in history.
Class A Michelle Obama for the win always.
She isn’t whitewashing him, but she is saying that it’s ok to be respectful & treat someone with dignity and grace even if you don’t agree with them 100% of the time. She is an amazing role model for everyone. It’s also nice of him to be polite & friendly to her, and of course pass on candy when needed lol
yeah! It’s totally fine to disagree politely about murder.
Look man, Michelle has to be slightly diplomatic when she is on being interviewed by his daughter.
Also this woman handled a whole bunch of ignorant, racist stuff thrown her way while her husband was in the office, as well as fending off everything being said about her daughters.
Anything she did, does & will do in the future will always be harshly & sometimes unjustly criticized by everyone who is a a staunch supporter of the current racist Republicans as well as Trump supporters.
What did you want her to say or do when protocol demands you sit next to or interact with previous Presidents?
Throw a shoe at him?
Can you imagine how that would go? Or how vilified this woman and her family would be if she even looked less than politely at a white guy?
She is not a stupid person. And no where did say say “Oh yes, W is the best human being in the entire history of the World.”
Yes, he has blood on his hands. So does almost every single sitting President of the U.S. in recent memory, including Obama. They all ordered missions, assassinations, assaults, deals whatbot that changed the landscape of entire countries as well as the World. There are probably more deaths that we are aware of as a of result all the U.S. meddling into everything, everywhere not just war. And that goes for within the U.S. as well.
I am not Bush supporter, I’m just pointing out some facts. That doesn’t mean I can’t see the ravages of W’s war either.
I love Michelle, she is a smart woman and while I may not have been able to sit there sharing candy with W, I can’t cancel her for this. She was and is still in a damned if she does, damned of she doesn’t position, simply because of office her husband held as well as the colour of her skin. Sadly.
Old Dubya is a typical good old boy who can smile and candy share all he wants. The facts are there though. He used a horrific act of terrorism to have his war. I don’t care how many times Mrs. Obama hugs the old fart, he is still a turd.💩
Check out his IG. Half the comments are from people who remind him of that every day whilst the other half are sucking up to him.
Let me just ask this. Those of you accusing GWB of all these atrocities that he was responsible for actually think he was the Mastermind behind all of it??? Come on now, he is way too dumb to have planned all that. He was the face that is all.