In all of the hubbub of royal shenanigans this month, I sort of forgot the earlier smear-campaign story about how the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge had to be “convinced” to spend Christmas at Sandringham this year. Allegedly, Will and Kate were planning to spend Christmas in Bucklebury, but with all the Sussex dramas and the brothers fighting and Kate crying, I think we were supposed to believe that Prince Charles and/or the Queen made the request that the Cambridges spend the holidays at Anmer Hall. Not only that, we’re supposed to believe that the Duke and Duchess of Sussex will be staying at Anmer Hall as well. Which… I still don’t believe. Harry and Meghan were always going to spend Christmas at Sandringham, but why wouldn’t they stay in the main house, or perhaps one of the other little cottages on the property? Anyway, the Daily Mail has quotes from a royal “biographer” who claims that this year’s Christmas situation will cause Kate to weep.
The Duchess of Cambridge’s Christmas will be an ‘ordeal’, a royal biographer has claimed, amid rumours of a rift between her and Meghan. Christopher Wilson – who has written biographies on Charles and Camilla – suggested Kate, 36, will be wanting to get away to her own family in Bucklebury, following Christmas at Sandringham with the Queen and other royals. He added that the recent suggestions of tensions between the Cambridges and the Sussexes ‘won’t make things any easier between the girls’.
Kate and William, along with children George, Charlotte and Louis, will be at the Queen’s Norfolk residence for Christmas this year, despite previous reports that they would be spending the day in Bucklebury with the Middletons. Speaking to new!, Christopher said: ‘Kate’s a homebody and loves being with her own immediate family at Christmas – off-duty and relaxed. Sandringham Christmases can be an ordeal, even for those born royal – and generally those who’ve married into the family often can’t wait to get away. As with many seasonal family gatherings, there can be undercurrents and the publicity over the Meghan clash won’t make things any easier between the girls.’
Thank you Captain Obvious. The “royal biographer” gig seems like a sweet deal. Let me try it: royal biographer Kaiser del Potro chatted with the American gossip blog Celebitchy about the upcoming royal Christmas plans, saying “If I had to put money on it, I’d say that Meghan’s pregnancy hormones are going to make her especially touchy, and there’s about a 50% chance that she snatches Kate’s wig on Christmas morning if they’re forced to stay together at Anmer Hall.” Also, can we stop referring to two 30-something women as “girls”? It’s f–king gross. Especially given that the more substantial beef seems to be between the “boys,” Harry and William.
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It’s Louis first Christmas, and a Sussex baby is on the way. I’m pretty sure Kate and Megs have better stuff to worry about.
Enough with this BS.
Yes! It doesn’t warrant blog time let alone reading time.
Yep. My money is on them having a perfectly cordial time and maybe reassuring each other that this BS will pass. And +10000 on “girls.” How demeaning.
+1
Oh, exactly. Like we should believe the DM?
I know the BRF is all about ignoring the press (sometimes), and that they cant play into every story about them, but I am really surprised they have not put together an event with the Cambridges and Sussexes – the women (because I agree Kaiser, “girls” is so demeaning to describe Kate and Meghan), the men, or all four. It’s going to put added pressure on the Christmas walk and there is no way for the royal family to win. If Kate and Meghan are laughing too much, it will be fake and forced; if Kate walks ahead of Meghan, it will be because they cant stand each other, etc.
So basically this is a story that I can half-believe, in that I can believe there may be some tension, even if there wasn’t any a few months ago. this past month of stories is enough to add tension to any relationship.
interesting point – when Queen Letizia and her MIL seemed to have a bit of a tiff near video cameras the Spanish Royal Family quickly organized some kind of pap walk with the two of them to show that all was good and to quiet the media chatter….interesting that the same has not happened with the BRF with this situation. One staged event with the two Duchesses smiling and looking happy together would do alot to quell the ridiculous stories
Yes but everyone thought that the pap walk at the hospital was fake and tacky , i’m telling you this because i’m from spain and everyone was talking about it for like a month and no one believed it.
good to know! the fallout from these kinds of things rarely make news outside of the country (I’m in Canada, I had heard of the original little tiff but not the fallout from the happy walkabout)
The pap walk at the hospital was totally fake and tacky lol. But that was slightly different in my mind overall because the initial incident happened in public, so they had to do SOMETHING about it, even if no one was going to believe it.
It was the most akward and forced pap walk of all times. Queen Letizia had to open the door to Queen Sofia, not once, but twice, with a frozen, fake and cheerful expressión. It didn’t fool anyone, and it made it worse.
It was demeaning and a concession to Sofia’s seniority and beloved queen and “abuela” (grandmother) estatus.
I wouldn’t wish Meghan a solution like this one because seeing how mediocre KP is at social media and PR, it would end badly for her.
There was an actual fight recorded on video so a pap walk of reconciliation wasn’t going to work. Kate and Meghan haven’t been seen fighting in public and were cordial at Wimbledon. I can see them not wanting to respond to the tabloids, but friendly interactions during the Christmas walk would kill the tabloid stories of a fight.
I’ve been thinking this for a while now. I understand that the royals usually try to ignore the press and don’t feed the beast, but this has gotten so completely out of hand that I am pretty shocked that they have not organized something, anything, that might squash even just a little bit of the BS from the press.
These stories make everyone look bad, and the worse the stories get, the worse it makes the BRF look for NOT trying to stick up for Meghan and Harry. I’m giving the press major stink eye for running with this nonsense, but I am also giving the royals, the Queen included, major side eye for appearing so insensitive to Meghan and Harry, who are still newlyweds with a baby on the way. For crying out loud royals, stand up for these people!!
Responding is like feeding trolls on Twitter. They lose if don’t say something, but they lose much bigger if they do say something. It’s an all around sh*tty situation.
Well, it turns out that as of yesterday, the Queen has had enough of it too. Meghan is going to be gifted with The Royal Variety and Royal Theater patronages real soon and the DM trolls are SEETHING with rage and disbelief right now. It’s the best I’ve laughed all day. Meanwhile, Kate has been summoned for a little round of BP tea “amid reports she faces an ‘ordeal’ at Christmas due to royal feud”. Wonder if it’s about Carole’s bigger mouth than usual as of late.
@Marr, what I wouldn’t give to be a fly on the wall in that tea room. I would LOVE to know what the Queen discussed with her.
@Marr,
Oooh! I’m def getting the popcorn ready for the patronage list release. And, Katie having tea with TQ after all this spilt tea? Now, that’s good gossip. Oh, to be that other fly on the wall with @L84Tea!
P.S. Just want to give a shout-out to Magnoliarose! If you’re checking in, I can imagine this little bit of gossip might make you smile. Hope you and yours are all well!
If I was Kate I’d be annoyed with my husband, and his family (in that order):
*as it was Kates familys turn, and
*first Christmas with a new baby and his cousin
All so the inlaws family can get better publicity when everyone knows they’ll find something to say they’re warring over anyway.
I would be annoyed too, but at the same time Phillip and the Queen are old. This might be the last Christmas they all spend together. I’m gonna be morbid, but honest. I think Phillip is going to pass next year and I have a feeling that once he goes the queen will follow shortly after. I’m sure they will still see the Middletons at some point for the holidays.
He could also live for another ten years. That family, thanks to a thousand years of being fed while peasants starve, and receiving medical care while the masses didn’t, has quite the longevity gene. William and Kate could conceivably spend the next 8-10 Christmas’s in a row with the Queen and Philip.
Why do you think the Queen will shortly follow him? I think she will still be around, like her mother, at 103.
i’m petty sure phillip married into that family..
True, Annie, but Phillip and the Queen are second and third cousins. Their backgrounds are extremely similar.
I’d be ticked off, too, but I will bet the Mids and Pip (James and Arthur) will all be at Amner, too. In the past, the Cams do Christmas Eve at the big house, Christmas morning/breakfast with the kids/in laws, church & walk with TQ, then they go back to Amner for lunch with family, and back to the big house (sans kids) for TQ’s speech and the formal dinner. One year, the Mids were invited to the Boxing Day shoot, too. That was the year Carole was in the Land Rover, driving with TQ. I would bet it will be this way again this year (and Pip and James (with baby) will depart after Christmas breakfast to be with his side as brother has a new baby, too).
Just my two cents 😊
Jan, you just wrote what I was going to say. I’d bet 20 quid the Middletons will decamp at Anmer hall, including Pippa and James and their baby.
And I think, any of us would be crying and wanting desperately out of the BRF Christmas, with their strict schedule and utterly boring and victorian traditions.
Anyway, adding my 2 cents to your 2, I doubt Meghan and Harry will stay at Anmer Hall, but not because there is any rift, but because all the Middleton team staying there.
When you marry into a monarchy, the monarchy becomes the priority. Given how long she waited to “get in”, she knew what the deal was. This is what she signed up for. Why she’s gotten away with this for so long is a privileged position.
Short may William reign with the way this couple behaves.
Soon may Canada pull out of the commonwealth to avoid funding further trips of the highest welfare recipients in the country.
+1
I do agree with a poster that mentioned that all of this could be old news and have resolved some time ago and was most likely leaked by the disgruntled ex-assistant. But I can see the Sussex team now looking at the Cambridges with suspicion. There is no way there isn’t any hard feelings between the two couples. The Kensington Palace Twitter page alone says as much. I know will and his family are in line for succession, but man, the ration wasn’t even 2:1. More like 10:1
this is not newsworthy…..EVERY MARRIED WOMAN HAS TO GRIN AND BEAR CHRISTMAS MORNING WITH THEIR STUPID ASS SISTER IN LAWS…..tale as old as time. i would much prefer to spend christmas with MY family in MY pajamas but some years i have to haul off to my husband’s side and be tortured by my SIL and her snotty kids while trying to prevent my child from getting a life threatening farm injury and choke down MIL’s gross food all after having to shower and get dressed. royals – just like us.
Agreed. Even when I spent Christmas with my family, some cousin would say something stupid to annoy someone. When we all finally stopped getting together, my husband: now we don’t have to deal with the bullshit and stupidity. The RF is no different. I am sure Kate’s chutney stories are a bore to Megs and Megs’ stories of those less fortunate make Kate cry (what????? This is not normal life???) 🤣
Definitely not newsworthy, and if they are having problems with their in laws, they are not the only ones. My sister hated her sister in laws, and family get togethers were always uncomfortable and fake friendlyness.
Having to hang out with my sister in law is comparable to a root canal.
Solidarity, sister.
I have one that’s great, & one I can tolerate.
As for staying at amner, sandringham is notoriously full. Royals stay in servants quarters (don’t know where the employees go but they make room for the Queens family).
I’m sure Harry and Megan (and Doria) would be more comfortable outside the main house. But not sure if they’ll be at Amner
I think the BRF should stop coddling Kate and push Kate to accept that Harry isn’t her property and there is someone new in the family and she has to be made welcome. Kate has no business being snotty or cold or nasty towards someone who is new to the family and Kate isn’t so pure herself that she has some right to be afraid of being corrupted by Meg’s past. Kate should also conform more to the expectation of being there for HM for HM’s sake. If Kate has issues with Meg or being around the BRF for Christmas, the problem is with Kate, not Meg or the BRF.
It’s not the RF who has coddled Kate but her own family and William.
Kate wasn’t supposed to be with the BRF this year for Christmas. She’s coddling Williams family by giving up a quite less stuffy Christmas with her family. They usually alternate every year.
She’s sucking it up for the firm. I don’t even like her but she isn’t the one whos making hell for Meghan. I never heard her being cold or snotty (except one story from lainey in the dating phase) and they spent Christmas together last year. All this war of the women is press crap. I believe war of the wales brothers, but SILs do not have to be besties and it’s no one’s fault if they’re not. They are probably very cordial and polite to each other but have little in common except their gilded cage. And that’s ok.
It’s been reported that Meghan has tried to form a friendship with Kate several times and felt rebuffed and has now given up. So yes if that is true, then Kate has not exactly been warm and welcoming to Meghan (probably because William doesn’t want her to for some reason).
Just because someone wants to be your friend doesn’t mean you have to be her friend. You can be civil without being friends.
Sometimes you just naturally don’t like someone. It could be the way they walk or speak or eat. It’s okay.
@Violet I’m one of those weirdos who likes Kate and Meghan both. If we think that the press rumors about Meghan being rude to her staff are hogwash, then why be so quick to believe the stores about kate being unwelcoming are true? You can’t cherry pick what you want to believe to fit your narrative. All of this is simply trashy tabloids trying to stir things up and you’re falling for it.
@Franny Days, amen.
She’s been called on the carpet by the Queen, so I’m sure she’s going to get RILL friendly RILL fast with Meg. I’m guessing happy, giggling picture on Christmas morning with a repeat coat and hat.
This is misogynistic rubbish and if you needed it to be any clearer, this fellow referred to Meghan and Kate as “the girls”. Women in their mid-late 30s, one a mother of three and one with a baby on the way, and he referred to them as “girls”. That tells me all I need to know.
Contrived nonsense.
Calling women “girls” makes my teeth itch.
+1, IMO it sounds ridiculous and belittling when a grown-ass woman calls other grown-ass women “girls”. It makes me stabby. A friend of mine does it all the time. I’have told her several times, but she says she feels like she is in her 20s (she is 41), so… hopeless.
Nothing at all wrong with calling women ‘girls’ because they are girls are they not? When does a female stop being a girl? It is a turn of phrase, there are young girls and old girls, but maybe not in America…lol!
My friends and I had what we call “girls night out”, last night. Me and the “girls” go out every Wendsday, we’re all between the ages of 20-90, and it’s what we all call it. I’m my boyfriends girlfriend, not womanfriend. There are a lot more offensive things to call a female besides “girl “
Beth, you seem to be intentionally missing the point. And calling human women “females” is also insulting.
I’ve been filling out paperwork for my insurance and the hospital all morning, and there’s multiple times I’ve had to check either Male or Female. It’s my gender, not an insult
Women choosing to refer to their own social activities in their own friend group as a “girls’ night out” has completely different connotations than a dude (especially a patronizing gossip monger) referring to grown women as “girls”. Context is key. It’s belittling and inappropriate. Adult women have earned the right to be recognized and referred to as such. I might call my husband and his friends “the boys” in a loving, affectionate way, but I would never refer to adult male colleagues or adult male strangers as “boys”. They are men.
Think also of how the use of these terms is deployed in different societal contexts depending on race. 12 year old Tamir Rice was shot and killed by a police officer while holding a toy gun because black BOYS are more often perceived as MEN even when they’re still children (research bears this out). At the same time, the coddlers and defenders of white men like Brock Turner, Donald Trump Jr., etc., refer to these adult men as “boys”. Framing adult men as boys is usually deployed to absolve them of responsibility or make them appear more innocent; framing adult women as “girls” is usually a way of condescending to us and minimizing our accomplishments or capabilities, so that we seem forever childish, flighty, catty and petty. That’s exactly what’s happening with Meghan and Kate.
Referring to women as “females” is a whole other set of wrong. Anyone who calls me or any other woman that gets an automatic sideeye. I’ll let this link explain it: https://jezebel.com/the-problem-with-calling-women-females-1683808274
You can’t ignore the context with these things. I am assuming you aren’t very familiar with the way “female” is often deployed in a demeaning, pejorative way by misogynists. The way language is used matters.
I had no idea. I hate being called a girl and the whole ‘lunch with the girls thing’ grates on me but that’s just me being a grump. I just had no clue there was a negative take on female but yes it is a bit Adams Rib now you mention it. I always get homework when I come here I have to go off and study. I will follow the link.
I’ve always HATED the fact that the Daily Mail had a woman’s section & that it was called Femail. 😡. They’ve always been classy!
Exactly Jessica. I am a 40 year old woman with two children, a husband, and a full time job. I am no girl. I stopped being a girl in my early 20’s.
Calling grown women “girls” is one of my hugest pet peeves. And, no, I don’t have Girls’ Night, I have Ladies’ Night.
I doubt they’ll stay with the Cambridges if Doria is there; probably the main house or one of the cottages, I doubt it will be Anmer
By the way, have you noticed they talk about Kate as if she’s a child, pathetic…..
I wish the media would cover the conflict between the men. Putting women against each other is so overdone.
I think I just had an epiphany. I do agree with the poster that said some of this drama DID happen, but a while ago and all involved parties got past it. So, there is probably some side-eyeing that it keeps re-emerging all-of-a-sudden. Totally the ex-assistant. Don’t they have to sign NDA’s?
BUT – I realized, that in my opinion, as much as I like all four of them (Will, Kate, Harry, Meghan), Will and Kate are actually afraid of the separation of courts and press offices. I make no judgement as to why and when Kate’s work schedule was less and is now more (Will has been doing more for a while but people don’t pay as much attention to him without Kate). But now, they’re going to have to deal with another Sussex press office doing whatever it wants. I also think that they are counting on Meghan’s maternity leave to make another big push forward.
For the record, I think that separate courts is a really dumb idea and that the British Royal Family does itself a great disservice by having so many different courts and press offices. This was an issue for the Danish Royal Family years ago, with Fred and Mary being too independent and eventually, they folded all of them into the same office and it’s made things alot better for the overall brand. I find it ridiculous to have, Clarence House, Kensington Palace, Buckingham Palace and all the others. Everything should come from the Queen/Buckingham.
I agree about the press offices. Charles has his own which caused friction, then the added one for KP and now they want another!!
I agree, it weakens their brand. At the beginning of December some of the commenters on here wrote that Buckingham Palace had issued a statement denying the claims that Meghan and Kate aren’t getting along. Others said it was issued by Kensington Palace. I tried to find the statement online and couldn’t figure out whether it was BP or KP because both were quoted as authors of the statement.
I am more interested in yesterday’s visit of Kate to Buckingham Palace. Yes, I’ve seen blurry pics of her going for swimming sessions – dressed down, but yesterday’s video she was opposite to dress down. Coifed wearing a cream jacket.
Doesn’t TQ host a Christmas lunch around now? Perhaps that?
Well to be honest, I do find this believable. IF it is true that the “boys” are feuding, why is it not believable that that negative feeling would seep over into the women’s relationship? Especially since it is well established that Kate follows William’s lead in all things. If he wants her to keep her distance from Meghan and not reach out to her in friendship, she’ll do it.
Kate looks possessed in that snowball photo.
I don’t believe any of these stories anymore, especially from the Fail.
DM is a complete waste of time, and I’m glad I never even click to read it
“Kaiser del Potro” 🙂
Why can’t Kate’s family come to Amner Hall for Christmas? It’s not like there’s not enough room. No need for them to be apart and surely William and Kate could spend part of their time with them.
I think this is what typically happens when the Cambridges are at Sandringham anyway. I think the kids stay at Anmer with the Middletons and Kate and Will do the church thing. I thought someone said one year they just did the church and breakfast at Sandringham – they didn’t stay for the entire day (which seems like a fair compromise.) But I’m not sure where I read that.
@kaiser thank you for saying the thing about calling them girls. These are women in their mid thirties. It’s so patronizing.
I’m so tired of the Poor Kate narrative, doesn’t anyone think that maybe pregnant Meghan would rather spend her Christmas with just Harry and her mom without having to change outfits 5 times a day?
I agree! If I were in Meghan’s shoes I personally wouldn’t want to spend Christmas with the RF, rather just Harry and Doria.
Well, this is what Meghan willingly married into. Why the poor Meghan? She could have spent last year (her last normal Chrismas) with her mother in LA, but she chose not to. Speaks volumes, imo.
Because she was invited by the queen and wanted to try and get along with people who are going to be her new family?
What do those volumes say? Do tell.
LOL at the framing of this story as poor Kate, meanwhile it’s Meghan who’s been rebuffed and the one pregnant with the entire BRF has made her feel unwelcome and common.
The beginning of the rewriting of BRF press 2yrs ago saying they welcomed Meghan and ready for change to move them forward. William supported Harry’s letter to the press. The Queen allegedly liked Meghan, wow how things changed. Makes it interesting that the Queen and Charles approved the marriage and Meghan, knowing she was an American, divorced and a history but now want her to conform.
It is especially interesting considering how much Kate was coddled at first when she officially married. All you ever heard and read (from legit news outlets) was that William and the BRF were making every effort to make things easy for her and give her time to adjust because they didn’t want a repeat of Diana’s difficulties. So why isn’t Meghan getting the same treatment? And I don’t want to hear that it’s because Kate is a future consort and Meghan’s role is akin to Sophie’s. Meghan is a senior royal, unlike Sophie, and will have a much bigger role for the next 20 years or so until the Cambridge kids are ready to take on official duties. And if the kids follow their parents’ example it might even be 30 years.
Perhaps the BRF did coddle Kate when she first married, and perhaps they realized that coddling her was a mistake, so that’s why they aren’t coddling Meghan. I mean, everyone on here says the BRF coddling Kate was a mistake, is it that hard to imagine the BRF think that also?
But everyone kept on saying Meghan was an independent woman who knew everything there was to know about this family and the press. Everything else was brushed off as “concern trolling”. So why would they coddle someone who comes from a media/celebrity background who supposedly wouldn’t be fazed by the media onslaught? It is what everyone kept saying…
@anonymousposter, the people who kept saying she knew all about the press were the press themselves. She herself said in the interview that there is this misconception that because she was an actress she would be used to the level of media attention she’s getting now, but she was never part of tabloid culture before, until now.
The Fail reported today that Kate had a solo meeting with the queen yesterday. Anyone wants to bet the queen called Kate on the carpet, told her she knows the smear is coming from Camp Cambridge/Middleton and it ends now? And she better suck it up for Christmas? Outside of an engagement, how many times Kate met with the queen by going through the gates at BP?.
meh, I don’t think so, otherwise the Queen would have called both Kate and William on the carpet. The Queen for sure knows who is calling the shot in this marriage.
Also, I’m tired of always putting the blame solely on the women.
I firmly believe Charles triggered the smear campaign and in his wake everyone started to leak like a sieve. There is not one source behind this, there are several. That’s why the attacks seemed to come from all sides.
If that’s true, why would the Queen scold just Kate. If anything, she should speak to William about that.
I think It was more likely a photo opportunity Kate.
Kate supposedly uses the pool at Buckingham Palace pretty frequently, especially with the kids. If the Queen called her in to yell at her I’m almost positive that would have leaked from some of the courtiers.
Maybe the Queen thinks she needs lessons on how to be a good hostess? As future QC, she will be the hostess with the mostest, hosting senior royals from around the world. Look at the size of some of those banquets the Queen throws. If I was Kate and knew that was my future, I would haunt the Queen’s every waking hour learning how to do the job right.
Yeah, I’m going with a good PR photo opportunity, which was approved – otherwise, we wouldn’t have seen her driving in.
Oh yeah. She absolutely got a talking-to. The Middleton PR was laughably ham-handed and incredibly obvious. This is for sure the Queen letting her have it.
Seeing as she was dressed up, maybe they were taking a photograph together or recording a message together. It could go either way in terms of good or bad but I’m leaning towards good.
Baby’s first Christmas is overrated and if you have to alternate with the out laws the second Christmas is the one to have. Then they can get their hands on the wrapping paper and you’re with them for the first Christmas that they are properly aware of. Maybe the Middletons will host Poppa’s husbands family so they can share their first Christmas with Arthur.
As this could be Philips last Christmas W&K should do the full Sandringham Christmas, not semi detached Middleton style. Mind you he’s a stubborn devil he could still be here in a few years.
If I was Kate I would have been a bit salty after the Lainey blind but I’d have probably let it go by now putting it down to Meghan’s naivety at the time . They looked fine at Wimbledon and William looked really happy for Harry on the wedding day. Kate and Meghan must know they have to make this work in the long run so unless they’re a pair of drama queens (no evidence so far) they will be fine.
What was the blind item?
That Kate hadn’t given her a lift to the shops. From the time Meghan was first staying at KP but wasn’t yet a ‘serious girlfriend’.
You know who comes out looking terrible in all of this?? The Cambridge’s! I’ve never had feelings about them one way or another, but after the smear campaign, they seem like petty, thirsty, jealous assholes. They didn’t do shit for over a decade and now they’re everywhere – wearing trousers no less. It’s so obvious they are behind this and that William is a spoiled man baby who can’t stand that Meghan and Harry are naturally charismatic and popular.
OH FFS, this is ALL GOSSIP! WE don’t know if any/all of it is true, and yet, some poster are taking sides as if we’re in the know of exactly went down and who is to “blame”. 😊
Think of it like a menu at a Chinese restaurant: A bit of dish A, and a little of dish B, put it over some of dish C, mix together. Maybe it’s a little of the women not having things in common (this could change once Meg has her baby/motherhood), a little of Harry triggering the press, and mostly a BIGGER portion of the brothers. Who knows! Let’s not try and take things personally 😊
Happy Holidays to everyone! 🎄✨
I just can’t wait to see the flotilla of Horrible Hats bobbing towards the church. As for cat fights under the mistletoe – for G-d’s sake: these are grown women. The DM is filled with shoals of red herrings – 1.The whole “Kate gently tried to give Meghan advice and the” ghastly row” directly contradicts “Kate didn’t want to help Meghan at all”. 2. The gutter press have each family staying in so many different places they’re going to need to create simulacra just to do the rounds. 3. Granny Carole won’t allow anything to interfere with her One Christmas Tree Per Child. 4. Meghan’s pregnant. Doubt she’d invest in drama, or be so ill bred as to cause a fuss in someone else’s house: if she’s having a hormonal moment she’ll probably excuse herself. When has she ever been accused of doing so before, ever, outside the sticky pages of the redtops? 5. They’re not girls – quite right, @Kaiser: SO effing infantilising. 6. Doubtful a feud would ever play out during what will probably be Prince Philip’s last Christmas, bless his cantankerous heart. 7. These are all grown ups. They can manage to survive a single day without going postal over the turkey or Granny Carol’s Vegan Option.
Personally, I believe Christmukah should be for family alone. Once made the mistake of inviting my boyfriend, best friend and very close friend, all male, to spend Christmukah with us – they’d have been alone otherwise. I wish to G-d they had. Three alpha males, two cats with beady eyes fixed on the turkey and parents utterly bewildered by the turn of events which necessitated them getting stuck into the sherry – unmitigated hell.
This year it’s lighted fires in the drawing room, all day bathrobe wearing, massive Christmas stockings I’m making myself filled to the brim with presents (the cat gets one also) and the front door double locked against the world.
“flotilla of Horrible Hats” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
IM DEAD!!!!!!!!!
Love this, esp #7
Thank you JB – love it.
I hate this narrative that the girls don’t get along. It seems immature and ridiculous and I want to give the benefit of the doubt that’s just not true.
However, I would not be surprised if Kate and Will are jealous of the attention that Meghan and Harry were getting as well as their overall popularity.
As far as spendings Christmas together… why does it have to be a manipulative move? Why can’t it just be Christmas together?! If plans changed It seems more likely that they are all planning on spending Christmas with the Queen and Prince Philip bc they are getting old. Prince Philip has had several health scares and the Queen might retire soon. It makes sense to have this big family Christmas together, in my opinion.
My eyes almost started to bleed when I read the word “girls” that and “females” will give me an aneurysm. I actually think things will be fine and are fine between Kate and Meghan. What is there to be said?:
“Your working is making me look bad.”
“Well, I’m not going to stop working.”
“Well, okay. You wanna hold Louis?”
“Sure!”
That isn’t the drama couple, it’s the “boys” who will have history and issues and that unique brand of needling and bloodletting only known to siblings.
Slightly – You’re the Trusted Source!!!
I have my own spy at BP.
Queenie: Waity…..I mean Catherine. I’ve asked you to tea to discuss Christmas.
Kate: Yes Grann…I mean your majesty.
Q: Yes I’d like the Sussexeses and Mrs R to stay in the big house with me so they will feel welcome and can enjoy a relaxing German Christmas.
K: good idea Grrran. I mean your majesty.
Q: Trouble is I don’t have room for Charles and Camilla so I thought it would be jolly nice if they stayed with you at Anmer
K: But but
Corgi: Grrrrrr
K: but but do we have to have the Yeoman as well. I don’t know if I can’t fit him in with all Mummy’s Christmas trees.
Q: Yeeeees.
K: but you know the POW will insist on the Goon show reruns, and Mummy will want to watch Strictly & Agatha Christie. She’s got the Radio Times marked up ready.
Q: Yeeees
K: And we like to play kerplunk and mousetrap before the mince pies and the POW will want to read quotes from his favourite philosophers.
Q: Yessss
K: And Camilla always gets Mummy and Daddy drunk and I’ll have to do all the cooking.
Q: Yessss
K: Can I have a choccy digestive?
Q: No dear, they are mine.
K: Oh
Q: More tea dear?
Yessss! Brava, Rosie! You and Liberty (please come back!) would’ve made a great team writing scripts for The Royals.
If Doria is coming there is no way they are all staying at Amner. They don’t know each other like that. I’m just in a drama free Xmas for the pregant lady.
This whole feud thing in the press is now over the top and ridiculous. These are two grown women. It’s like they think women can’t be civil to each other–like they are some drama-filled high school girls.
I mean everyone has someone in their family that’s all about the drama — but this kind of BS petty crap is just that. At this point, I think they are making this up. Both women seem gracious in public, why couldn’t they just do that in private to make a nice holiday for the family and for all the children. I really don’t believe either Kate or Meghan is so immature and petty that they would ruin Christmas for all the children that will be there, and make everyone else uber uncomfortable. Come on!
Bingo.
Here in the South, evidently men who can’t be bothered to remember my name, call me “Missy” and I’m 65 years of age. Can’t figure out if “Girl” is better than “Missy”. There is one guy at the convenience store that says, “we appreciate you, baby” after my purchase.
LOL! Some men really are neanderthals, aren’t they? In light of the festive season just remember that to get their attention, you must be a really youthful-looking 65 year old. Enjoy a Happy Holiday, DenG!
So press reports of tension will add to the tension between Kate and Meghan? I just posted this same thing on another thread: the press is fueling its own story line. I call b.s. on all of this cr@p between Kate and Meghan. I don’t think Kate likes being outshone, but on the other hand, Meghan is popular and her work ethic can justify (as much as it’s possible to do so) keeping a monarchy after the Queen dies. I think William and Kate realize that, and if anything, are probable relieved. Kate in particular has looked happier once Meghan came on the scene.
Willliam and Kate are not out there dumping all these stories. Why? Because it would destroy their relationship with Harry forever, sever it. I live in a family with four adult siblings and spouses. And no one expects the in-laws coming in to be tight. We are friendly and enjoy get-togethers here or there. I am close to two of my siblings, though, and would never try to dispariage their spouse. And if there were problems, it would never be loudly addressed to others. Why? My brother or sister would sever the relationship with me, as would I with them, if a family member was destroying my partner to the outside world. Period. By doing that, they are hurting me.
So it’s silliness. No one expects them to live next door to each other nor have the two women all to be best friends all of a sudden. Kate is very busy with three little ones, one born not long ago. The hard part is it’s a business so they have to be intermingled more than just family at gatherings, and more problems come in. But they would deal with that and William nor Kate would ever ever ever go so far as to leak all these stories to destroy Meghan. That’s his brother’s wife. Harry and William love each other and will never go that far.
Did William voice a concern about a long-distance relationship in the beginning when his brother was serious? Why wouldn’t he? No one really knew her. She led a different life. William is the one that really witnessed what his mother’s marriage went through, not Harry, who was younger. Getting married into the royal family is different. Not for the faint at heart and hard on mariages. Dating long distance is different. So he might have expressed something in the beginning. Big deal. I did to my best friend when she was moving fast and he lived in another state, born from another country, and her life would change dramatically. She didn’t take offense. She broke up with him eventually because she wanted someone to fit into her career-driven life and he needed a wife to fit into his life. William has been seen being very friendly to Meghan after that, once Meghan and Harry were official, moved here, and brought out at events, engaged. So there was no problem with Harry and William.
I think it’s the rag mag press feeding off of story lines they create with a little info here and there from pissed-off royal insiders (people who work there). They will work through whatever issues they do have. They will all be friendly at Christmas.
The press’s tearing down of Meghan is horrendous. Harry rightfully should be upset. It’s his wife and she is pregnant. But if the palace or anyone starts responding, they are feeding into the monster, because the “so-called” press will want to keep pulling that stunt, and if no response at other times, oh, well, this time it must be true. See the issue?
I wonder if there was ever a chance the media would not pit Kate against Meghan.
I’m lapping up this so-called ‘feud’ up. it’s good fun. it helps make the royals interesting to me lol
This comes off as not sounding that true although I don’t think Kate and Megan are the kind of women who would necessarily be friends or get along. I think they are probably civil at best.
It would be nice if William and Kate were a bit more helpful in quashing these rumours but William doesn’t seem like the thoughtful supportive type and Kate hasn’t cultivated too many interests outside of pleasing her husband so that is not likely to happen,
Hopefully the KP team gets it together before the holidays- this has been an absolute mess.
And honestly, I hope Megan’s health and pregnancy are going well. That should be a major concern. Black women already suffer worse health outcomes in pregnancy(more premature births, lower birth weights) and that risk increases with age. Doctors now have shown in recent studies that the long terms health effects on black American women’s bodies due to repeated stress of racism has negative impacts on long terms health and successful pregnancies. That all to say, I hope the Duchess is doing alright and trying to stay as stress-free as possible.