I shared my “take” on the body language between the Cambridges and Sussexes yesterday – for the Christmas Day walk in Sandringham, I thought Kate and Meghan “performed” very well. It almost looked like they were BOTH told to put on a good show of friendship, and both behaved impeccably. But what struck me about the body language was that the duchesses were doing the work to keep William and Harry apart, and that the brothers seem to still be on the outs. Which was perhaps the story from the beginning – that was the undercurrent of the smear campaign against Meghan, and that was the basis for the most believable stories from the campaign: that William and Harry have had a significant falling out over the past year, and their wives are being set up as the “fall guys” for the brothers’ feud. Still, the British tabloids don’t want to look any further than the “the war of the duchesses” and that’s why we get stories like this:
Kate and Meghan called a Christmas truce on the orders of the Queen and Prince Charles. The feuding duchesses smiled and walked side by side as the royals went to church at Sandringham. A royal source said: “It was a bit uncomfortable.”
Kate, William, Harry and Meghan are a picture of family affection as they walk side by side to church — after the Queen ordered the feuding Duchesses to make peace for Christmas. The two couples responded with an unwavering display of unity, with Kate and Meghan smiling and even chatting together. Both the Queen and Prince Charles had made it plain the rift must be kept under wraps during the Royals’ traditional Christmas gathering at Sandringham.
A source said: “The Queen and Charles have allowed the situation to play out without overtly interfering — but they both made it clear that Christmas was for the whole family to really come together. That meant the two couples walking into church together as the Fab Four just like they had last year. Yes, it was awkward and uncomfortable given what’s gone on over the past 12 months. But the alternative of even more negativity on Christmas Day wasn’t worth thinking about.”
Her Majesty also wanted Kate and pregnant Meghan to be on good terms by the time they sat down as a family to watch her Christmas speech at 3pm.
As I said a month ago, any story that ends with “…and Charles stepped in and saved the day” obviously comes from the Prince of Wales’ camp at Clarence House. It’s not enough that Meghan and Kate were seen looking friendly – their Christmas truce has to be part of Charles’ PR, that he’s the wise future king who keeps the younger royals in line. The problem isn’t Charles’ relationship with his two daughters-in-law though. All of this is about the brothers AND Charles. Can Charles do anything about the feud between William and Harry? Will Charles do anything?
Photos courtesy of WENN.
This is the royal family? They are acting like celebs.
I don’t get any of this. Supposedly all of this happened months ago and they were able to fake it at the wedding and all other functions and now (Will and Harry) can’t even make a one minute walk seem cordial.
I still think Charles is behind all this and he’s no better than Thomas Markle
Right, what happened after the wedding?
Yeah,they supposedly had a falling out about Charlotte’s bridesmaid dress,and now they’re fighting about it at Christmas…weird
This is less imo about Charlotte’s dress and much more about the spare’s wife not being approved of by the spare’s brother. And that’s the most legit angle I’ve come across. Their dynamic both socially and professionally supports it. William’s press tactics/fingerprints are all over this or at the very least he’s silently allowing it to continue. And William never allows something that brings his name into any narrative go unaddressed unless he likes it. Look to so many private meetings and legal threats for evidence.
Factor in the Meghan positive press…
@NancyLD …What are you talking about? Meghan showboating at Eugenie’s wedding?? l also don’t see how marrying Harry is her way of getting worldwide fame. As an older biracial divorced actress with lunatic family members she is very brave to marry into the RF.
@Princessk I’m not saying it’s true, but seriously you don’t see how marrying Harry is a way to get worldwide fame? I mean as far as worldwide fame goes, if that was your goal, marrying a popular British Royal is kind of top of the ways to do it. Meghan seems like a nice person, but her marriage elevated her fame dramatically, and I can understand why someone would think a US television actress was interested in fame. You at least should not be afraid of extreme fame to be in her position. The whole idea she may be after the fame and fortune is not out of the realm of possibility. So I see where the stories are coming from. I mean most of gossip is conjecture and this is kind of a logical story idea. Still she always seems fine in public so I’m hoping all is good with them all, and just angst from family, fame and duty issues.
She was making seven figures at her current job and gave it up. Why would she marry just for “extreme fame” but then not be able to profit from it at all? And anyone gets famous marrying one of Diana’s boys. Meghan had a public profile and a career prior to marriage but Kate was a literal nobody and then got world wide fame. And she didn’t have a life except to be William’s girlfriend. No job, no charity, nothing but working at keeping William interested for close to ten years. So if anyone was seeking the lifestyle of luxury and fame it was Kate. She had nothing to offer in that regard on her own. I mean if we are going to play this dumb game of fame seeking, no one jumped up higher than Kate in the social climbing game.
Stop being silly. They are both social climbers, duh. Everyone knows Kate wanted a life luxury but so did Meghan. Why do you think people social climb in the first place?! And why do you think social climbing is bad? Kate didn’t have access to what she has now pre-marriage and neither did Meghan. Couture clothes and diamonds were nowhere to be seen on either woman before marriage. I still don’t know why Meghan didn’t own any piece of real estate, anywhere, which makes the 7 figure claims a bit dubious. Was she making a good 6 figure living? Yup and she was probably investing because she was renting. I would guess Meghan has a nice nest egg for herself, but a millionaire is never going to marry into the Royal family because multi-millionaires already have access to everything the RF offer to any married in.
Actually, they’re acting like… the British royal family. There has always been infighting among the British royal family. Power grabbing, one party being more beloved by the people causing more animosity. The history of the British royal family is rife with it. It just seems weird to me because, in this day and age, when the monarch is more just a figurehead with very little power, you’d think they’d have moved beyond all that.
I agree with you, a few hundred years ago most of the royals would just kill off siblings to move on up, but now you just leak stuff to the British tabloids to humiliate them. You never see Prince Charles do anything with his brothers or sister outside of public events, I think William and Harry got a lot more press because everyone thinks of them as Diane’s boys, but they are 50% Charles and I have a feeling that they both have some of his selfish tendencies, but I’m guessing more William than Harry.
The RF are very conscious of their public image because the Republicans are always hovering, and the Diana business is still fresh in people’s memories.
If Charles meets up with his siblings in private how would we know, he is a busy man anyway.
The Sun has no credibility. The stories of a rift were all invented, IMO the UK press has egg on their faces. The media has obviously been lying.
The Daily Mail is a racist rag who invents drama where there is none.
They were hoping to get some glaring photos of the Duchesses but none came, so the papers have to now INVENT another LIE to cover their other lies.
The entire feud story is one big LIE and smear by the UK press.
LIES, LIES, LIES! The U.K. Tabloid press.
That’s what I was thinking. Because everyone is obviously getting along they had to make up the story of the Queen and Chuck DEMANDING they call a truce. If they were truly fighting they wouldn’t look so friendly and joking. Meghan may be an actress, but Kate certainly isn’t.
I agree. These stories are total fabrications, or the small part that is true is very innocent. Also, if Will and Harry have had a falling out, is it anyone’s business?
Are they really anything other than celebs at this point?
Suz they are totally just celebrities at this point. I’ve seen Brits get so outraged when this is said, but it’s true. I mean, the definition of a celebrity is a person who is famous and that’s what they are. They hold zero real power.
The media treats them like celebrities but they are the custodians of British history and tradition and they raise millions for charity.
PrincessK, many celebrities raise more for charity than they do. Oprah, Angelina, etc.
I recognize that they hold a traditional/ceremonial role, but at the end of the day they are still just celebrities who wear fancy robes and jewels occasionally.
Erm I would not compare the influence and connections TQ and PC have with Oprah and Angelina….whether William will be able to command that type of influence in future I am not sure.
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Yes, this is a great example of a story that comes from charles’ camp. Same general story as yesterday – feuding duchesses Play nice for the cameras – but the added twist of charles as hero tells me this particular spin is from him. The duchesses playing nice isn’t enough; we have to know that it’s bc of Charles.
Anyway – agree with kaiser and others. I think it’s becoming clear this is about the brother. It seems that something has changed and it’s easy to blame Meghan since she’s the new one but I’m sure it doesn’t actually involve her (beyond maybe “Harry is married and looking to do his own thing”).
Or maybe they were friends with a good relationship all along, and the stories about the arguments between the women were just BS stories being told by British tabloids who were trying to keep people interested in reading about it every day
Sounds about right. I’m not buying any of this.
IMO Kate got too thin too fast after Louis. The extreme skinniness is taking a toll on her looks.
Indeed, she looks as thin as she was on her wedding day. It’s aging her badly plus she will pay for it with her health later on in life. Osteoporosis is something she needs to watch for.
Kate looks so frail. I wonder why she lost so much weight?
As you age, you can be very thin or very beautiful but you cannot be both because of how we lose fat in our face.
Well that’s just mean.
@Mich, I’m 40 years old, naturally very thin, and I’m beautiful. It is possible to be beautiful no matter what your weight, thank you so much. Maybe if someone gains and then loses large amounts of weight over and over again it might effect the skin on the face, but just because a thin person is aging doesn’t mean they’re not beautiful. Aging is a natural thing that happens to everyone, not just skinny people
Kate’s face and neck look really skinny,and it does age her.That said I think I would be so skinny if I lived in the public eye,just like the comments here,whether it’s about clothes,weight,face,aging,the stress would either have me eating nothing or everything in sight.
I also think that her smoking history is affecting her skin’s collagen- her face is becoming slack. Meghan’s skin ( as a non-smoker) is so much firmer. Someone get Kate a NuFace!!
I think Kate feels EXTREME pressure to be super thin at all times. Before she married Wills she had (IMO) a healthier more athletic look. Then she got real skinny for the wedding and now that’s just her. She wants to be picture perfect and it wouldn’t shock me to learn that her husband prefers her that way.
I agree with @minx. When you compare last year’s Xmas walk to this year, Kate looks so much better. Hair a bit shorter, face fuller, granted she was pregnant, but she does seem way too thin to me.
Kate is not naturally skinny, she is slim and athletic, but when she gets super skinny like this it is obvious this is not natural.
Her face looks so guant in some of the Unretouched photos, really guant.
Meghan also smokes. Sometimes how a person ages could simply be down to genetics. Kate strikes me as someone who likes to keep fit & we know she loves her sports! Size isn’t an exact indication of a person’s health. Similarly if a person is big it does not automatically mean they’re unhealthy. Kate has given birth to 3 healthy babies all weighing 8 pounds! This suggests to me that she’s doing fine
I think Kate just looks tired, kids will do that to you, even if you have nannies.
And I think her thin figure is fine, you can tell she works out and isn’t an unhealthy skinny-fat (skinny but no muscle tone).
@Violetmay Meghan does not smoke. Why are you saying this?
Because there are pictures of her smoking?
It was one picture of her smoking, I don’t think she’s a habitual smoker, most likely it was a rec thing? I doubt she’s going to do it now and when she has her baby. It’s probably the same with Kate, she may have smoked when she was younger, but once she had kids she most likely quit or decreased how much she smokes.
Don’t forget about the tanning. That ages the skin very quickly if you’re doing it on a regular basis (worse if you’re using tanning beds).
There are pics of Meghan smoking with her best friend Jessica Mulroney. So, yes, she has smoked in the past. Jess has been pictured smoking recently.
Did you guys see this photo of her at the reception recently?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dtmlh7XXQAIQLX3.jpg
I was so shocked when I saw her arm! I don’t say it to be mean or body-shaming or anything- I like her. I was just genuinely startled when I saw it. I knew she’d lost weight, but not THAT much!
Kate can keep healthy weight and muscle tone. She has before. She can be thin and trim and it doesnt take a toll on her face for that aging effect.
What does is what weight she lost. Meaning muscle tone and smoking. Yes. She has smoked for years. Between pregnancies.
Her frame looks to be that of a person that is cardio healthy. Limits, but sufficient caloric intake. And not functionally strong like how she was during g the dating years and even post george.
So, she can’t be compared because someone thinks their body type is close or reacts the same. Let’s just name this off of kate herself and all the many comments and photos of her and straight from her or her personal trainers and family.
And yea. That arm is pretty alarming based on her body and what it’s shown to be capable of.
Extreme thinness, especially a relatively rapid weight loss , can also be a sign of stress. At least it has been for me at several points in the past.
I also found it harder to lose weight in my mid 30’s than it was in my 20’s, even though I was much more physically active in my 30’s.
This makes me think that even if most of the Kate – Meghan feud articles are BS (they do seem to be reasonably cordial in these photos plus the Wimbledon ones), there might really be something going on with hubby Will and his brother that’s very stressful for Kate.
During the Church walk l saw a picture of Kate’s back and her shoulder blades were poking through her coat. I think she is under stress, especially as she now has to do more engagements and more public speaking to keep up with Meghan. Kate is out of her comfort zone.
Exactly, I don’t think they “performed” anything. They’ve always seemed to have got on well. If there’s tension, it’s between their husbands.
Chuck will on,y do something when it threatens the family business. He’s like his other in that they don’t like confrontation. Charles has notoriously avoided chastising his eldest son as William has always kicked off against such influence.
They will all play nicely until TQ passes then it will all kick off again as Chuck will be in charge and William will have to step up and work with his father. I still think sh!t will happen and William the Brat won’t be King.
And yeah, the fact that William doesn’t like Meghan and tried to interfere in Harry’s relationship with her is the real story and cause of all this drama. Harry married someone who will not let herself be pushed down by William and his ego/insecurities. William can no longer pull Harry’s strings and that’s the issue. Harry has what he wanted, a family of his own and it must sting that his own brother can’t and won’t be happy for him.
Yup. That’s the real issue, but I have to wonder how much Meghan knew of this before she got married. She knew things about her own family we didn’t learn till later, but possibly also knew William, the future king, didn’t want her in the fold? And yet she walked down that aisle in front of a global audience? We don’t praise her enough for courage.
Perhaps it’s courage, but courage implies fear, doesn’t it? I’m starting to view Meghan as having Gwyneth Paltrow levels of self-esteem. Don’t get me wrong, I think she’s kind, but I also see a confidence that could easily be mistaken for arrogance. . .
A fitting match for William, I expect. . . .
XO, I can see what you’re saying, but Gwenyth was practically born into royalty herself (by Hollywood standards) and had the good fortune of conventionally attractive looks, so fame and fortune were simply hers for the taking. Meg has lived a pretty nice life, and maybe she’s good with the hustle, but she’s been around enough to know plans don’t always work out.
I find it really silly that Meghan gets criticized for being a divorcee. I’m a divorcee too, still friends with the ex (and his new Mrs) and we all agree that we’re better partners to our new partners than we’d have been without the experience of having been married before, when we were younger. I really understand what’s important, what I can influence, what matters. I was young and immature back then, and I learned a lot in the intervening years. It absolutely made me a better person and a better partner.
Also, the Sun is full of baloney.
I don’t get the impression that William actually dislikes Meghan. There is a high likelihood that this is mere speculation. In the months leading up to the Royal Wedding, I distinctly recall William coming up to Meghan and greeting her with a kiss to both cheeks. This occurred as they were walking to a church service. That brief exchange, to me, appeared warm and led me to surmise that they had a burgeoning great friendship. IMHO, the UK tabloids are invested in creating drama where there is none in the hopes of increasing readership. As other posters have noted in previous threads, so-called drama and dysfunction translates into readership and sales!
You have to remember that we’re not seeing them behind closed doors or in their own private time. We’re seeing them behave for the public, with cameras present, so of course we’re going to be shown warm greetings and friendly behavior.
Harry also married somebody who appreciates Prince Charles and gets along with him to the point of encouraging Harry to appreciate him. William may feel threatened by Meg &Harry’s new improved relationship with Charles and arriving soon, Polo B. Sussex. I have a feeling Polo B. Sussex will bounce on Charles knee and call him Grandpa and be photographed clinging happily to Grampy King Charles with sticky little hands. Will may be annoyed by Meg & Harry’s newfound closeness to Charles who will probably be king within a few years (respectfully said). All speculation of course.
Does anyone else feel like all these “forced truce” stories are being more or less made up by the media, because after weeks of egging each other on and building up this huge “feud” that appears to exist only in their stories, they now are left with having to explain why everything appears to be just as it always was between the two duchesses- i.e. absolutely fine?!
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Us Brits, know this is the games the tabloids play.
Unless it comes from the Times , or Telegraph all ‘exclusives’ from “insiders”, “onlookers”, “friends” is almost certainly BS.
But like from the days of supposed Helen Windsor and Sarah Chatto beef; to even Prince Phillip and Tony Armostrong-Jones ‘rivalry’, stuff like this sells and will continue to do so.
All parties, especially Kate, remain popular here so I really don’t think the public is as invested as the rags in keeping this ‘feud’ going.
I think all of the stories continue to play out in the media (and specifically the British tabloids, although they then filter worldwide) because the media realizes what a cash cow they have with stories about Meghan — whether it’s a “feud” with the Cambridges or giving the horrible Markles the ability to spew their BS. They’ll keep running these articles because they’re getting clicks and viewership, and have essentially created a business model around them. I think it’s disgusting.
I agree, I think the feud stories were ALL LIES and the U.K. media has serious EGG ON THEIR FACES, So they invent another lie.
The UK tabloid press has to keep creating lies to cover other lies.
Honestly, despite the various conspiracy theories we all have about who leaked and when and why – this is probably the most likely scenario. These stories are all either completely fabricated or extremely embellished to the point of being basically fake, and now the press has to scramble to make it less obvious that the stories were fake. “you think they all get along, but that’s just fake!!!!”
Meghan & Kate aren’t feuding. They probably aren’t the closest of friends, but all of the smearing can’t be laid at Kate’s doorstep. I do think her mother has gotten in her jabs, but for the most part, I do think it’s William and the courtiers who have been waging this war. I believe TQ and Charles stepped in. Who wants to go through the holidays with petulant and angry brothers. Thing is…this is normal for most families. A word from the matriarch and everyone is on their best behavior. Doesn’t solve the underlying problem, but in her presence and in front of the cameras, everybody better slap a grin on their faces and bear it.
Sexism and patriarchism at its worst.
The two women, of course it has to be us, are at each other’s throats because…hormones? Too sensitives? Too hysterical? You can choose. And the old wise man saves the day.
I think Kate is relieved she has no more all the attention on her, and she looks more comfortable in her role thanks to Meghan.
The feud is between Harry and William, Kate and Meghan probably aren’t bestie because they have too different backgrounds, but this doesn’t mean they hate each other.
Agree with all of this.
I don’t even believe William and Harry are actively feuding as to growing older and apart.
And that happens.🤷♀️
Impossible to believe now, but once brothers, Princes Andrew and Edward were supertight as kids and teenagers. 😮 Of course that’s been no more for decades now.
agree with you, mags just trying to sell their trashy gossip and the royals are great subjects. Meghan is just their new target. They are like any other family, not everyone is super close but they will stick together because of their family ties.
That about sums it up!
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Where was Camilla?
Yes, Waity Kate looks too skinny
I think I read somewhere that she was ill or came down a cold.
stress
I think Kate diets down to be super skinny.
She looks bad when she gets too thin, IMO.
I think she purposely wants to be really, really thin, like this and it may get worse, she may get thinner.
A reporter once told someone he inquired about her weight loss at one point, because in-person she was looking alarmingly thin, was worryingly thin a few years ago. The one reporter who pushed to find out information ,was told not to make inquires about her weight or they would be , no access again.
there was genuine concern for her, as there were rumors that history may have been repeating itself. . .
I can’t imagine living with the degree of scrutiny someone in her position endures. I don’t think the “men in grey” appreciate the pressure fully, either. The attention on women is different. Hopefully they’ve learned over the years. . .
it was reported she had the flu
So I was right and the Queen channeled her inner RuPaul. She told them to “SMILE FOR THEIR LIVES!!” and don’t “ F@#k it up.
Yeah, I called this last week. The queen hauled Kate in to tell her to behave and voila! We have a fake giggling show of sisterhood for Christmas and everyone believes the new narrative that every tabloid made up these horrible stories! Crisis management at its finest, folks.
I have always said that Charles camp is the originator of the smear campaign and people on this site asked what Charles stands to gain. Charles is a sly fox. What did he stand to gain when he consistently threw his own sons under the bus even while they were not even fully adults?
What did he stand to gain when he leaked to the press that Harry was caught smoking weed when he was a teen? What did Charles stand to gain when his camp consistently leaked to the press how terribly lazy, petulant and stubborn Will and Harry were and how he was the responsible father who will be a good king? William and Harry are his sons. His own flesh and blood. Yet he leaked damaging stories about them to the tabloids.
This feud is a power tussle between Charles and William/Harry’s courts. Its called ‘Divide and Rule’. Which particular ‘smear’ story makes the Cambridges look good? None. Almost every single one of the smear stories made Will and Kate look bad. It made them come across as weak (crying Kate), jealous and lazy.
Does anyone here genuinely think that deep down within his heart, Charles is happy that Will, Kate, Harry and now, Meghan are far more popular than he and Camilla will ever be? On one hand, Harry’s wedding was good PR for him, but at the same time, he doesn’t want to be overshadowed by his son’s new wife. So what does he do? His people plant diversionary stories in the tabloids such that you can’t trace it to him. For those who say on Telegraph has good royal sources, I disagree. Charles camp leaked damaging stories to the Mail on Sunday about Diana. Was it not Emilia Wickstead of the Sun that got the exclusive about Harry and Meghan moving to Frogmore? When Lak who knows so much about the royals used to comment here, she said the Sun on Sun and The Mail on Sunday have authentic royal sources. Even Lainey through whom Meghan leaked the story that Kate refused to give her a ride, says reporters like Emily, Richard Kay of The mail and Dan Wotton of The Sun have credible royal sources. Tom Sykes of the Daily Beast also confirms that a good number of the tabloid reporters have credible royal sources.
I don’t understand why people fail to see this. Charles was jealous of Diana’s popularity and what makes you think he will be comfortable with Megan’s popularity? Do you really think that Charles or the Palace wants another glamorous and popular woman like Diana? The palace wants the younger royals to work hard but according to their terms. The Palace(CH and BP) want Meghan to do work, but to do it ACCORDING to their dictates and not how she wants to go about it.
Diana, Sophie, Fergie were all smeared by the courtiers. In Sophie’s case, the smear campaign was that the palace didn’t want another Diana. What makes you all think Meghan won’t be smeared? Lol. None of us knows what goes on behind the scenes. But one thing is very obvious, Clarence House and BP DO NOT WANT THE SECOND COMING OF DIANA and they are clearly sending Meghan a message. As long as Meghan is married to Harry, she has to do what the palace wants her to do. The palace will always protect their own (Will and Harry) , while the women are easily thrown under the bus.
This story was sanctioned by CH and BP obviously. Even when they know that the feud isn’t between the women, they had to make it seem so. The women have been made to take the fall for Will and harry. Meghan and Kate can’t fight the institution.
Can you please link me the story of Kate refusing to give Meghan a ride? Or give me the gist of it? I looked but could’t find it anywhere
It was a blind item on Lainey Gossip last year. SUPPOSEDLY… Meghan (dating Harry at the time) was going to go shopping on the High Street; Kate was taking a car to go shopping. They talked, then Kate got in her car and left. Meghan got to the store and found Kate in said store already. Gist: she wouldn’t give Meg a ride or it would seem as public acknowledgement of a relationship, so it meant Kate was “mean-girling” Meg. Something along those lines
Lainey had a blind before the engagement. Everyone assumes it came from Meghan’s friend Jessica via Meghan.
hello Marce, this is the link to the Lainey blind https://t.co/Z3Ne6cd4Xe?amp=1
Yes, Emily Andrews of the Sun broke the Frogmore story. She has a great podcast with Omid Scobie called On Heir.
Well, many of us have said that we think Charles is behind “some” of these stories, but I don’t think he’s behind all of them. I always look to see who is the victim or the savior of the story to see who is behind them, and in many of these leaks it is William and Kate who are the victims. Any story that involves poor pregnant/new mother Kate who just wants to spend time with her children but she has to deal with this assertive (gasp!) new SIL……yeah I think that’s from the Cambridges. Any story that involves Charles being the white knight, or just makes them all look foolish, is probably from Charles.
Honestly though….the truth is probably that one or two stories leaked and then the press is just off and running and making things up to see what sticks.
The Mail on Sunday is the actual paper and it is different to the online version. The MoS has the exclusives, always has. The Times chiming in was certainly an eye-opener because they are a credible Royal establishment paper. When the leaks are coming from the Times, of all places, that is definitely Clarence House or Buckingham Palace.
People seem to have forgotten that Charles was peeved off when Harry released the statement in Nov 2016. Charles thought it took the attention away from his Mid East tour, lol. That is how petty he is. Nevermind the fact Harry was addressing racism… Nope, Charles cared about his own popularity and attention on him during that time.
Don’t like Charles, do you Mel? He’s by no means perfect but you are not giving him enough credit. He should never have treated Diana the way he did but he apparently tried with her at the beginning.
Kate and William spent the last years ignoring Charles. I never saw them interact at public appearances. Harry was always meant to be the son closest to Charles since he was young. Now though he has a daughter-in-law to whom he sees close and Harry is the most popular member of the British royal family (fact -polls) so, yes, William does feel threatened. He has also spent years by-passing his father and going directly to the Queen.
What too is this about William wanting his father to spent more time with William’s offspring? Charles invited both sons and families to the Castle of Mey in the summer but only one son and wife went.
The tabloids are stirring it up too. The DM and a number of its readers also loathe Meghan for reasons I cannot say here. Kate is made out to be all sweetness and light but she isn’t.
Anne and Charles are also said still to be close as I think Anne and Edward could be.
I have a feeling William is used to having everything go his way,, I’m betting him and Kate probably have very little to do with each other at home and she probably doesn’t ever give an opinion, he was used to his brother being his wingman and when Harry met Meghan and got married it threw a wrench in the mix, I’m sure Meghan being an independent American woman probably speaks up more than what he’s accustomed too. In the video from Christmas there was a part where Meghan is next to William and he completely ignores her and then actually almost walks off without his wife, I’m guessing he’s more like his father than his mother.
I don’t think anyone told them to “stop feuding.” They’re mature adults-no matter what may have happened behind the scenes (and I don’t think much of anything) they know to look how like they’re getting along.
I don’t really think that Charles is behind the smears or that he comes out as the white knight in this particular story. In fact he comes across more as the scolding father who is taking a firm hand, so to speak, with unruly children. It makes them all look childish.
And if Charles and the Queen had all this power to get people to step in line, why didn’t they yield it sooner? Why haven’t either of them been able to get the younger generation to be committed to working as they themselves are?
Well said, Misty. I think the Queen does have a certain amount of ability to influence but chooses how to exercise it. Charles pretty clearly has no ability to influence his sons at all.
Meg & Kate should go off on a spa retreat and tell the husbands to have their sh*t figured out by the time they return.
Lol!
@Bettyrose – Yes!!!! They need to tell their drama queen brothers to get their act together
They should have massages, mani pedis, drink champagne and gossip.
Thank you. I am getting sick of ths duelling duchesses story. The feud is definitely between the brothers. Meghan is too smart to get caught up in a petty feud with Kate. She knows how politics work, no way is she going to blow everything she worked for by beefing with Kate. Kate is too much of a doormat to do anything other than what her husband tells her. If she has issues with Meghan it is probably because her husband has issues.
There are previous photos of William being very friendly to Meaghan. I wonder whether everything changed when the Markles took over the headlines with their evil shenanigans. Maybe that’s when William stepped in with criticism and Harry said he doesn’t care, he’s marrying her anyway. Just a theory.
William seemed happy enough at their wedding and there have been moments since then where you saw him being friendly. There was even a balcony appearance where he basically made Kate move over so that there would be space for Meghan to step up. This is all odd and interesting. I wonder how much of it comes down to William possibly having trouble with the fact that he is now further down on the list of “the most important people” in Harry’s life.
Am I the only one bugged by how much William fiddled with his scarf? Like, he’s trying to be cool wearing the scarf, but it needs to be placed just SO and he fiddles and fiddles and fiddles with the damn thing. I think it gives insight into a persnickety and prickly personality, personally.
He was using it as a distraction to avoid interaction with his family members?
The GIF of his fiddling is riveting. He cannot stop messing with his scarf. I find it interesting to focus in and watch only him and then only Meghan — their faces tell a story! Persnickety and prickly are great descriptors for him!
William lookliked such a fool deliberately fiddling with his stupid scarf for over a minute. He didn’t want to talk to anyone and it looked like nobody except Meghan wanted to talk to him either. At one point William ignored his father. I also think that William is jealous of ‘darling boy’ Harry’s relationship with Charles. I saw Willam giving the pair of them dirty looks. Which reminded me of the look on Williams face when Charles grabbed hold of Harry’s hand on the balcony during the Trooping of the Colour.
Harry’s kids will be HRH’s.
The Fail just implied the feud is Will vs Meghan
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6532361/Is-real-royal-feud-Meghan-WILLIAM.html
My money is on Meghan standing up to William.
Another Daily Mail Lie, to keep their lies going.
The Mail has no credibility and is racist. IMO
If anything, Meghan would tell off William for treating Harry like shit. That I can believe.
This is kind of funny. I enjoy how they can take a single moment and make it into a THING. Meghan looks behind her, William fiddles with scarf, FEUD!!!!!!
(although I’ll say William did seem to be fiddling with this scarf a great deal, it was kind of funny to watch.)
There is literally no story, but it is amazing to see how much attetion these headlines get. These kids are so good for business. Did you see William *ignore* Meghan?! Lol. She literally glances behind her to make room on the steps and William was fussing with his stupid, itchy scarf on his nasty ashy skin, and BLAMMO! Thousands upon thousands of clicks.
It was obvious that the issue is between the brothers, do the tabloids think we can’t notice it.
Yeah, during the walk the royal women were great, like you can’t even really nitpick, right? Friendly but not over the top. Did the walk perfectly.
So now it’s Meghan vs Meghan in tabloids.
William does look unhappy to be there and does nothing about it.
I do really think Kate and Meghan might be pissed that the press is overanalysing their behaviour while it’s their stubborn husbands who are responsible for the situation. William and Harry did nothing to dispel the rumour unlike their spouses. William is stubborn but so is Harry and we have no idea what really happened. Not to mention family can fight, don’t like each other or just drift apart, it’s normal. Meghan knows it well but Kate has a great relationship with her sister yet I bet there was some rivalry but she knows it’s natural and how to handle it.
I believe everyone the guys should make up just to stop the public from the Kate vs Meghan fight.
Overall I think that we’re dealing with overprivileged GUYS, they were literally born as future kings (Harry a spare but still..), they had everything, money, status, women, place in history and good like (William in the past). They could do whatever they wanted (unless it was dressing as a nazist. but still if meghan did that or played beer pong naked.. but it’s not about her) and it really shows. Women, who were more intelligent, more savvy, private school but not overly rich can get along and know what’s best but the brothers can’t. I’m like.. Getting married to such a guy may be a dream come true but a nightmare as well..
William is the future King and does not fear Meghan. He gets first rights over Harry on everything. He could make Harry and Meg walk behind him and Kate if he wanted to. His issue has nothing to do with jealousy. If Harry and/or Meg think there is a battle with William to be fought, they will lose as long as the BRF exists. And no, Charles will not side with Harry against William.
These are just facts.
Lol we all know William is going to be king. 🙄And no one is saying William fears meghan. In the end he will be the one the to sit his happy butt on the throne. What kind of king will be? Who knows. But in the end he will need Meghan and harry to help him until his children grow up and lord help him if they are as lazy as he is
Charles not siding with Harry over William is not a fact. And when the person who will eventually be your boss behaves inappropriately and is a bad manager, there is always the option of leaving. William doesn’t own Harry and Meghan and if he shows himself as a overbearing bully, Harry and Meghan will continue to distance themselves.
The Queen sides with Andrew all the time.
OMG it’s gotten so tiring to read about the constant bashing of Duchess Meghan. She’s never good enough. I keep thinking about how she left behind a lucrative career, her blog, her country and the freedom to be herself, all for this??