Last week, celebrity trainer Jillian Michaels dissed the Keto Diet pretty hard. Jillian doesn’t understand why anyone would think Keto is a good diet in general and she explained her reasoning. While Keto seems like such a strange diet (to me), I do believe that if you have certain conditions and you’re under the supervision of doctors and dietitians, perhaps Keto works for you and God bless. What I don’t understand – and what I think Jillian Michaels was saying – is that the average person probably shouldn’t just “try” Keto as the latest fad diet, because it might wreck your health.
After Jillian’s comments went viral, several high-profile Keto-followers yelled at Jillian. Apparently, Andy Cohen is a Keto Dieter, and he called her a “jackhole” for dissing his diet. Al Roker hate-tweeted Jillian too:
So @JillianMichaels says #Keto is a bad idea. This from a woman who promoted on camera bullying , deprivation, manipulation and more weekly in the name of weight loss. Now those sound like bad ideas
— Al Roker (@alroker) January 10, 2019
Jillian replied to both:
I have an idea… @Andy @alroker how about a civil intelligent debate on The 6 Keys book and keto instead of personal attacks and name calling? I’m also a motivator and I know you guys can do this. 💪🏽
— Jillian Michaels (@JillianMichaels) January 12, 2019
I just think everybody is going about this the wrong way. I’m not a huge Jillian Michaels fan, but I always appreciate it when someone speaks up about a fad diet which is being misused by celebrities. I appreciate Al Roker’s point of view, which is that Jillian bullies people and that doesn’t work either. And now… Keto-follower Jenna Jameson is getting involved in the conversation. Last night, Jenna posted this on Instagram:
Let’s talk intuition. I have found that people get scared into overthinking keto. That if they intake too much protein, or don’t have the correct macros they will fail. I call bullsh-t. Trust your intuition and your body. Stop buying foods labeled keto and MAKE your own foods! Buy whole foods. Eat until satiated and implement intermittent fasting. YOU WILL LOSE. Not only will you lose, your skin will be tighter and brighter, your mind I’ll fire on all cylinders. I am not pushing a product, I’m only pushing my way of thinking and my healthy lifestyle. I love you
She also has a Keto Diet Instagram – which you can see here – where she shows off the Keto-approved meals she makes. Jenna gained a lot of weight with her pregnancy, and she used Keto to lose the weight (which she shows off in a side-by-side photo). She also has tons of time to make her own meals and if that works for her, again, God bless and I really don’t care. For me, I understand the testimonials of “if you follow it strictly, you’ll lose weight.” I get that, and I get that there are a lot of people for whom “weight loss” is the singular priority. But my question is the same as Jillian Michaels: at what cost? It really does seem like if you follow Keto for any length of time, you’re doing long-term damage to your health. But what do I know, I had a big bowl of pasta for dinner last night.
Photos courtesy of Instagram, WENN.
Frankly, I don’t know about Al Roker, but I feel like Andy Cohen hates women – he has built an empire on televising women fighting, bitching and attacking each other – I’m really not interested in him attacking a woman and calling her names (jackhole, really? F off).
Yeah, he’s built an empire on it, but women put themselves on those shows and other idiot women watch them. So…..?
@Cara whats your point? That some women will happily behave like morons and others will happily watch? Doesn’t change the fact that he creates and profits off women’s trauma.
YES to everything that you just said above. Andy Cohen is a sick, misogynist pervert who has taken his Dynasty-era camp fantasies from the 1980s, put them on steroids, and vomitted them all over reality TV, pitting women against women. He has ruined what had been a nice cable network channel called Bravo! and rebranded it with thirsty, trashy grifters who are trying to establish their own brands. He didn’t even have originality when branding his Housewives shows—-obviously lifted from ABC’s Desperate Housewives. Further still, his Watch What Happens Live is a desperate, poor man’s version of the incomparable Graham Norton.
I think Andy Cohen dislikes women too. I remember about five years ago, a family member was in the hospital , seriously ill and Andy Cohen was playing on the hospital room tv. She asked me to turn the channel or turn it off, she said because his shows with women are negative, he does nothing to uplift, he contributes in tearing us down. She was 60 at the time. She said she knew a person who disliked women when she saw them.
I couldn’t agree more
You are absolutely right. And @Famika, sounds like your relative is no dummy!
EXACTLY….and wouldn’t she be a jill-hole, not a jack-hole?
HE’S the Jackhole. God he’s tedious. And I agree – I don’t think he likes women very much either. Maybe in a gladiator-style way for his amusement, but that’s about it. Thirsty famewhore.
I don’t watch any of his shows, but I in general get a very negative feeling about him. Calling someone names because they disagreed with a diet? Gross.
I’m really not a fan of Andy Cohen.
I also don’t have any time for respect for the views of Jenna Jameson either.
It’s good that she’s apparently drug free these days but doesn’t change the fact that she’s a trump supporting, KKK defending white supremacist.
And she has her daughter all over her instagram account – what about the fact that she has not seen her twin sons for over 4 years!
I’d take retaliation from a reject like her with little value!
Exactly. Thank you Clare!
Not surprised by Roker’s reaction. Keto has a cult-like following. To all the keto members, let’s talk in a year.
I don’t get Roker defending a diet, either, since he had weight-loss surgery years ago. It’s pretty easy to keep the weight off when you’ve had your stomach surgery carved up into a much smaller size, Al. I don’t begrudge the man his diet of choice, but he is not an example of an “average person.”
For me, it’s a matter of these celebrities having doctors, nutritionists and chefs available to them. They have a team of experts making sure they’re eating right. Those things are NOT generally available to the general public who buy into what these celebrities are selling, but don’t have the same experts working with them to make sure they’re eating healthily. People don’t research things for themselves these days. They talk to their friend, who heard it from her friend, who heard it from another friend, and they follow all these rules they got fourth hand, and before you know it, they’re eating a TON of fat every day and courting a heart attack in a few years.
FWIW, it’s NOT easy to keep weight off just because you had weight loss surgery. I know because I had it. Once you get past the first year, cravings, etc. come back and if you don’t eat protein first, it’s easy to fall back into snacking and making bad choices. Not advocating for Keto at all, it’s just another fad IMO and if he’s following this he probably fell back into his former eating habits and is back dieting.
@ SamC-Yup my cousin had stomach stapling…probably 20 years ago or more. She gained most of the weight back after two years. She recently lost a bunch of weight (on Keto, actually) but her weight has always fluctuated pretty drastically since she had the surgery. It’s been a struggle in that sense. Also, she’s dealt with a lost of post-surgery complications. I would never call gastric bypass surgery easy.
I don’t understand why he’s getting so huffy about it either. Or why anyone is, opinions are like aholes, everyone has one. Why get so worked up because someone doesn’t like keto? As far as the biggest loser, the whole premise of the show is losing weight fast. And a trainer is supposed to push you, Jillian was just doing her job.
Snowflake: I agree. TBL is clearly a TV show masquerading as weight loss. If you’ve ever used Jillian’s workout videos, she is actually very supportive and encouraging on them. I think it’s also worth noting that she did walk away from TBL when she felt like it crossed a line (though she did eventually return). But that doesn’t change that she is a competent trainer who generally knows her stuff, and Roker is a weatherman.
I’ve always heard that you CAN regain weight after gastric bypass, but it’s hard to do, because you can never eat a large meal again. So you basically have to eat a ton, but in small amounts. Are people constantly eating to manage that? I can see how a person with a normal stomach could eat such portions, but how do you manage it with a smaller one? I’m kind of amazed by the idea.
Actually, Sam, it’s NOT easy to keep the weight off after gastric by-pass. I had it done in 2005, and I lost 190 lbs. (yes, I was THAT fat). And while it comes off easier (esp. at the beginning), EVERY DAY is still a struggle. You MUST change the way you eat and the relationship with food (emotion vs physical eating). You still have to watch what goes in, the amount, the kind of food (protein vs. carb, low sugar etc). There are a LOT of people who regain it back and then some. I weigh myself every day, keeping a log, and if a pound or two creeps up, I have to nip it in the bud, or the train will run away again.
To answer your question: I try to eat every 2-3 hrs. “Main” meals as usual, but my snacks in-between are things like 80 cal. Greek yogurt with a few almonds thrown in, 1-2 string cheese sticks, some sugar plum tomatoes, light popcorn… small amounts of food, more often.
So please, don’t think it’s an easy way out. It takes a LOT of work to get it off and KEEP it off.
Ok, let’s chat.
I kind of get their reaction to her. She is an irrelevant celeb trainer looking for clickbait and got it by speaking without knowledge. We have a society where obsesity is an epidemic and here is this thing that works, and rather than educating oneself, it gets bashed and lumped into all these other fad diets.
Here are the facts:
1) The food pyramid was designed by lobbyists not nutritionists. It’s demonizing of fat and glorification of carbs is one factor why we people have continued to get fatter and fatter.
2) There are essential amino acids (proteins) and essential fatty acids (fats), but not a single essential carbohydrate.
3) This is a traditional diet for certain cultures like the Inuit and Australian Aboriginals
Full Ketosis is not essential for most people, I did it for most of 2018 and felt great but it can feel very restrictive for anyone who loves breads, pastas etc. But almost everyone can benefit from understanding that if they ate more good fat, a moderate amount of protein and cut down on their carbs they would be much healthier in the long run, whether or not weight loss is a goal or not.
but you can eat that way (more healthy fats, a fair amount of protein and reduced carbs) without doing “keto,” which is what I think Jillian initially said. Carbs aren’t bad in themselves, but people probably shouldn’t eat a pound of pasta in one sitting (I love pasta SO MUCH!!!!) So I think that your last sentence is pretty in line with what Jillian said originally.
“Traditional” doesnt always mean it’s good for you. I’m sure you’ve done research and know why you support this diet, and I’m not trying to argue with that. However, there have been studies on the cardiac health of Inuit. They eat mostly animal fat, cardiac health is very poor. They eat what is available, it doesnt make it ideal.
But the Inuit eat that way because they have to. They live in an environment that will not support agriculture, no matter how hard humans try. I don’t doubt that they’ve evolved the ability to live on a diet different than most other humans, but that’s not an argument for all of is doing that. And I am half-Native American and well aware of traditional diets – most indigenous peoples did have agriculture and consumed grains and veggies (hell, corn was a staple crop for the majority of us). The fact is that humans have been consuming carbs and fiber for thousands of years. (And there’s even evidence that prehistoric humans, pre-agriculture, consumed large amounts of free-growing ruffage and fruits, so the so-called primal diet is not historically accurate either).
I mean, what people call “Keto” isn’t actually a ketogenic diet. If you’re not counting your veggie carbs (which they’re low, but they have carbs – and carbs aren’t bad because it’s stuff like fiber) and you’re just eating a ton of protein, no that’s not Keto. You’re just eating a low carb diet with a fad name. And that’s fine, because we want to eat lots of veggies. It’s awesome, but not truly “Keto”. But if you’re doing “Keto” and is just butter and bacon, you may drop weight but it’s not a long term solution. Also, I don’t get the fixation on Ketosis like the body can’t break down fats otherwise. Fat is a basic fuel for everyone’s body, but the biggest issue is that it’s the least efficient – your body expends the least calories using it.
The truth is, there’s no single perfect diet out there. If something works for someone, that’s great, just remember that each body is different.
Don’t think hoovering in a pound of bacon is “good fat” … but I don’t eat animals so the diet sounds like a joke to me anyway.
“And there’s even evidence that prehistoric humans, pre-agriculture, consumed large amounts of free-growing ruffage and fruits, so the so-called primal diet is not historically accurate either”. Correction – This is part of the primal or paleo diet. You can eat tubers, fruits, etc. Basically anything that is not a grain or legume that would have to be farmed. The primal diet is a lot of veg with a good portion of meat and with fat not demonized.
Becks is right – I’m pretty much following that now for my blood sugar, and my (very educated, very excellent) doctor has flat out told me to ignore all the “diets” including keto.
Also, I don’t think Jillian is irrelevant, she’s pretty high profile in the fitness world, and seems quite knowledgeable in the field.
We can talk now. I’ve been eating keto for four years.
People don’t seem to understand keto! The don’t seem to get how human body works. It’s all about insulin if your belly is growing. A million hours on Michael’s gym workout machinery won’t get rid of it, but a few days eating right will.
I eat more or less keto but I never think of it and it’s not a cult.
You can’t “more or less” do Keto. It’s not how the body works. What folks call Keto is basically just a low carb diet.
“it’s not a cult” – every person in a cult.
I lost weight (years ago not recent) on it years ago and honestly it is one of the best things I have ever utilized into my life. Not on it currently but it helped me in the past and I’m still living with its benefits. Defending something which has worked for you isn’t being a cult. It works for some people and those people like me will defend it. It doesn’t work for some people and they can “hate” it. Most people that speak out on it haven’t even tried it. People that are really the most vocal are the people slamming it without trying it.
Agree!
No, that doesn’t make it a cult. But willfully ignoring the health risks related to it, while recommending it to others makes it a lot more cult like.
Erinn—my Doctor prescribed the diet. It wasn’t a fad to me, it was prescribed by my Doctor. Also the diet has been around for hundreds of years and is often prescribed for Epilepsy & seizures. Some diabetics have also been given the diet, not common, but it is used occasionally for diabetics. In my case it was for out of control Asthma and recurring pneumonia. Americans are extremely uneducated in food science. Living off of 1980s & 1960s food science. Maybe read up on it instead of assuming it as another random diet.
He did over-react a bit.
As a chronic pain sufferer due to scoliosis and arthritis, the main motivator for me to be on a Keto Diet is the reduced inflammation.
I also steadily lost weight on keto and had no re-gain when I went off.
I agree a lot with Jenna that focusing on Whole Foods is where it’s at. But to say keto is super unhealthy… I don’t get that at all. Sugar and wheat can be inflammatory… eliminating them does not hurt anyone. Adding extra healthy fat (huge emphasis on HEALTHY, I’m talking avocado, oils, olives, cheese, grassfed butter and meat), serves to keep me full longer, helps me think more clearly because the brain LOVES fat, makes my skin healthier… combine that with the anti inflammatory boost of no sugar and wheat, it all works out and I feel much better.
I go on and off keto depending on how my willpower is doing. When I’m on I have so much less pain and more energy. So I would say to Jillian… what’s her problem with that? I’m losing weight, which my body needs as I carry extra weight and that’s the last thing my spine needs. I’m feeling less pain. I had bloodwork done and it’s all good… I even feel less irritable and have more patience for my sweet little kids. And I’m the last person who is about fad diets. I tried this because my sister had had pain relief from it (she has major hip issues), and she couldn’t say enough about it.
I agree with your comment. I also don’t feel that she has really explained why she thinks it’s so bad. I guess we need some carbs? I have been thinking of it because my body wants to get diabetes (high A1C for a little while now, but not yet there!) and I’m having such a hard time reducing on my own. But I will talk to my doctor before doing anything. I would love to get a nutritionist!
Here’s an example. My coworker was eating a bowl of berries. It looked like strawberries, raspberries etc. I said, “wow, that looks delicious!”
Her response was, “yeah, my trainer said I can have it as long as I put a hunk of coconut oil on top”. She then pulls it a jar of coconut oil that she keeps in her drawer that helps make her fruit “healthy”.
To me, that encompasses why Keto doesn’t make sense as a diet. She’s adding unhealthy fats to produce before she can be allowed to eat it. You might be dropping pounds but think of what it is doing to your heart!
Go to a nutritionist and make sure it is not a onetime visit. My body wants to go the Type2 Diabetes mode and I have family history. I need to follow strict dietery rules.
A nutritionist is qualified and with your medical data will be able to suggest you the food plan and alternatives for it.
And I visit my nutritionist 2/3 times a year because sooner or later I lose motivation for the diet.
And we need all three macros, but less carbs and more protein and fat. It is absolutely so very difficult to do it. Even in healthy options there are so much carb hidden.
Don’t go to a nutritionist, go to a Registered Dietician. Anyone can call themselves a nutritionist.
Any diet that tells you berries need fat on them is just stupid. Common sense, really. She DID explain why it’s bad. All that animal fat is SATURATED fat – and that’s what cause clogged arteries and heart disease. Fruits and vegetables have so many nutrients in them that we need, so restricting those means you lack those nutrients. Etc, etc. Any diet that forbids veg and fruit is suspect. We need everything (even pasta) in our diets. Your brain also uses carbs to function – not just fat.
But coconut oil is not unhealthy, and someone who might be struggling with satiety or reaching a minimum number of calories might benefit from adding a teaspoon (or tablespoon) of coconut oil to their fruit.
Actually there were reports going around last year about how coconut oil is not as healthy or cure-all for everything that people think it is and that it’s terrible for your cholesterol. It has a higher content fat that butter so… I wouldn’t call it healthy. If you use it sparingly I’m sure it’s fine! I don’t really use it but I know people use it on their hair and such which seems to work for a lot of people.
Coconut oil is a solid at room temperature, just like butter and animal fats, which makes it a saturated fat.
I use coconut oil sometimes (using it to grease the griddle pre-pancakes makes them tropically delicious), but I feel like the data on coconut oil is pretty mixed. I don’t think it’s bad in moderation, but I don’t think it’s a miracle cure either.
Ounce for ounce, coconut oil has more saturated fat than butter, beef tallow, or lard and raises your LDL cholesterol considerably. I use it very sparingly in certain dishes and that’s it.
Exactly, everything you’re saying. When I stick near a keto diet (lots of veg, no bread, pasta, rice, sugar) and eat healthy fats (all the nuts and avocado you can ever want… never hungry!) it clears up my migraines, chronic face pain and sore throats. Also clears my skin.
The whole “gotta eat a lot of bacon and butter” part seems to be the part people get hung up on, and honestly, that part just seems unhealthy. Is it so people will stay on it? Mmmm, bacon?
Charliepenn, agreed. I’m on Plant Paradox, and I eat avocado and olive oil instead of bacon. I listened to Shawn Mynar’s Keto podcasts. I wanted to stop feeling bad. I started with Keto, and ended at a diet that has little animal fat, cruciferous vegetables, and small amounts of lean protein. No wheat, much less dairy. I put a tablespoon of MCT oil in my coffee. My cane isn’t necessary anymore, and I am delighted.
Jill’s methods were proven to not work by science when all of the Biggest Loser contestants were followed up on in a study that found they all returned to their original weight except a few, and the few worked extra hard to keep it off. ALL OF THEM had SLOWER metabolisms. The woman who remained thin has to complete strenuous work outs just about everyday. I used to have to do that, too. Now that I’m 50, I just walk to work and take stairs and I feel better than I have in years. It was the inflammation.
Summed it up beautifully, how can a diet focusing on healthy eating, not hovering up tonnes of bacon and animal fat , be bad for you, Eliminating sugar has given me control over not only what I eat but also a drinking habit that was getting out of control. Keto wont work for everyone but it certainly works for me
Keto is effectively a biological hack … I though Jillian was pretty clear that her issues were that it has to be followed *precisely* to work correctly and not backfire with huge negative health consequences. Not for the laissez-faire or cheat-day types. If you like and it works for you, cool beans! I can’t imagine anyone would bother getting up in arms about her comments. It’s a diet plan, not your mother.
Indeed, a true Keto Diet is very stringent, and requires a pretty delicate balance of carbs-fats-proteins, and your body doesn’t go into Ketosis after just one meal, and one meal can also disrupt it. What is really being packaged is a low processed carb diet (which, is what we want, as long as you’re not subbing in filler).
“A diet plan not your mother.” Exactly! Al mustn’t have much to worry about if he gets irritated about that. Who cares? Different diet for different people.
People that do keto swear by it. I don’t feel like I could ever handle the intermittent fasting. I follow a low carb diet, not keto. I still eat carbs but when I reach a certain amount of grams per day I stop, and its worked pretty well for me. I use myfitnesspal to track my my meals. I have been doing this with the help of an online coach who personalized my macros for me, 32lbs and counting without depriving myself of carbs all together. For me Keto would never be a sustainable but to each his own
hello, can I ask you about where you limit your carbs? Do you just take the daily recommended amount? Where did you find a coach? I’m wondering what is an appropriate amount to expect to pay for something like that. I need to figure out some kind of change and I am finding that I don’t have the willpower to do it myself
I found an online coach on Instagram, there are tons! The one I work with happens to be local to me which is a plus. I trust her and she is certified. I usually stay at around 76g of carbs per day, its easy to track with the premium version of myfitnesspal. Keep in mind that number is personalized to me. I think there is an equation in order to calculate the appropriate macros, just not sure what it is. Sorry!
Manda, listen to Shawn Myner’s Keto podcast. It teaches you to eat healthy fats and to forgive yourself and to go slow. She helps women solve problems about how Keto works for different individuals. I used it to heal my gut, but was still sick. I discovered that, for me, it was the proteins, lectins, referenced in plant paradox. Now that they are gone, weight is falling off slowly and I feel better. My brain now has the fats it needed to work properly. I don’t take the drugs I did anymore.
Yeah, my husband and I eat low carb occasionally (usually in the summer, its easier with all the fresh berries and vegetables) and I have to stop him from saying Keto–some people don’t know the difference. I prefer to do low carb because I can’t commit to the high animal fat part of Keto. I have to stick to my lean chicken and London broil over huge T-bones.
Of course celebrities freaked out over it. Hell, people here freaked out over her comments.
I think her point was – if keto works for you – if it helps you lose weight AND be healthy (because losing weight is not the only barometer of a healthy diet), then good for you. But for many out there, it may not work as effectively, or it may be bad for your health, and people should be aware of that.
I also just really think we overthink “healthy eating” in this country and I think Jillian was partly responding to that.
I don’t shade her for this at all, and I find it hilarious that so many people are upset by it. I mean – it’s great if it worked for them. But there is 100% a risk involved with doing this kind of diet. Kidney stones, heart problems, risk of triggering ketoacidosis, vitamin deficiencies etc. I mean, you’re going to lose weight – because you’re losing a lot of water at first by cutting carbs. But there’s also studies coming out suggesting that people on the lowest-carb diets had the highest risk of dying from cancer, cardiovascular conditions, and all other causes. Which I mean – isn’t a good situation, obviously. Eating a lot of saturated fats isn’t great either.
If it’s being guided by a doctor and or nutritionist, I think it can be beneficial. BUT I think a lot of people are oblivious, whether intentionally or not, to the risks that are associated with it. Benefits and risk ALWAYS need to be weighed on an individual basis and I don’t think people want to hear that something that seems to work for them could be putting them at a risk of other conditions.
Ketosis and ketoacidosis are not the same thing.
Also, many studies have found that having a consistently high blood sugar, or frequently high spiking blood sugar is highly correlated with cardiovascular illness and death (higher A1C = higher risk of cardiac incidents) For many people following low-carb or keto diets is a reliable way for them to keep their blood sugar at safe levels, reducing cardiovascular risk, along with risk of stroke, kidney disease, etc.
Being guided by a doctor or nutritionist is a good idea, as long as you do it with a clear, attentive mind. Some of them promote outdated or disproven information. And just like everything else, it helps to be sensible: sure bacon might fit into someone’s macro goals, but maybe there is a better choice for fat intake that doesn’t involve cured meats and nitrates?
Yes to the overthinking but since each new diet is accepted to the point of craze (they don’t call it fad diets for nothing) it seems more like underthinking. Seems as if Jillian Whatever was just trying on her critical thinking hat and there is a predictable backlash.
I’m glad nutrition science is making strides in understanding how our bodies work in relation to food. I look forward to the general public learning more as well but adopting this diet or that diet isn’t the whole of nutrition, digestion, absorption and elimination.
What are these “macros” that people are talking about? Food isn’t software; our digestive systems are not compilers. A sign of the times…
@who are these people
Macros as in macronutrients (fat protein carbs) micronutrients are the sub categories there of. No sign of the times, just regular ol language …macros and micros as a prefix has nothing to do with technology in this context but rather science. Ie “microscope/microcosm/macro level”
Ah thanks Chloeee that makes so much more sense. Shows where my head is at!
Haha yeah people definitely freaked out. I mean, I get why people would get a bit defensive because it’s hard to find a diet that really works and if you FINALLY find a diet works for you, the most annoying thing is to hear people lecturing you about how it’s not healthy, sustainable, blah blah blah.
Honestly, I think Jenna’s comment was the best. I liked and agreed with everything she said. If that’s how people are doing the keto diet, then I fully support it. I saw her IG and the food does look really delicious and wholesome so..eh.
But at the end of the day, I wouldn’t do any diet that recommends animal fat and protein so keto isn’t for me.
I agree that Jenna’s comments were the best, but I also think that the results of the study that was discussed in the NYT article, I think it was last year, proved that what Jill taught them doesn’t work. As a matter of fact, the calorie restriction made them all fatter and it made it even harder for them to stay healthy. That is what bothers me about her comments.
I think it’s more the long term effect of eating so much fat? No ones saying you won’t lose weight but is it the HEALTHIEST way. I mean I could eat just crackers all day & probably lose weight. Of course people have more energy, when you’re down 30lbs! That’s common sense. No one should be living on white starchy carbs. In college one on my nutrition professors said it’s unhealthy to eliminate a specific food group from your diet unless it’s medically necessary. I feel like that’s where Jillian is coming from. Lots of people lose weight & get fit while eating the occasion carb. Balance! Keto is accelerated diet.
I agree. A friend of mine lost weight doing Keto and IF and swore by them. Less than a year after she stopped she’s heavier than before she started those. Her weight has been up and down like that her whole adult life. Permanent lifestyle changes are the only way to sustain weight loss for the long term, I think.
But keto isn’t about eliminating all carbs. It’s about getting your carbs from places like whole veggies. For people who insist that eating bread and pasta is a necessity and that it’s pathological to eliminate them, I would love to know how much of the recommended veggie intake they’re getting. When I’m full from eating starchy carbs I don’t eat as many healthy green veggies. Eating keto helps me get tons of great, fiber-rich veggie carbs.
*Raising my hand* I eat a lot of pasta and a ton of vegetables. Thanks for your concern.
Part of the issue is that people use the term “Keto” as a catch all. A true Keto Diet IS about eliminating/severely restricting carbs, including those in fruits and veggies. A carb is ultimately a carb, your body can’t tell the different between a carb from a veggie from a piece of bread. Where the difference is, is whether or not it’s a simple sugar or complex carbohydrate, and how our body digests it. But once it’s in your bloodstream, it’s still just a carb.
I eat a lot of pasta too but my sauces are LOADED with peppers, peas, mushrooms, etc.
Hi @Lindy! I’m an ovo-vegetarian. I eat a whole foods, plant based diet with the occasional egg from my friend’s chickens down the road from us. I eat a shit ton of veggies daily. i eat whole grains every day. I’m healthy, my skin glows.
Thanks for your concern tho
Jeanna is so right, eat whole foods and run away from the Keto garbage foods. Stop eating keto cupcakes for God’s sake.
No one needs grains/sugar. I eat low carb/primal but sometimes do keto to lose some extra weight. It is all good.
Eat real food!
This is based on nothing but my own speculation but my hunch is Jenna has been on a diet her whole life; pregnancy gave her an excuse to eat ice cream every night. Of course she needed to find a way to lose that weight.
I never gained much weight with my pregnancies because I don’t deny myself the things I want to eat, I just eat moderately.
My Fervent wish is that all the girls born in this millenium to be free of all “diets”, to be comfortable in their skins and to eat everything they desire in moderation. This “certain look” is mindbogglingly stupid as there are over 8 billion human beings currently alive and none of them look alike naturally.
Amen! Such a balanced, loving perspective!! ❤️
Yes!! Thank you!!!
My 11 year old daughter was eating toast for breakfast. She looked concerned and asked me if this was a “carb”.
I never talk about food in terms of macros (carb fat protein) so I know she’s not picking up “carb” talk from my house. It broke my heart, and made me extra concerned for her. She’s strong and a dancer, but constantly gets told by classmates that she’s “too skinny” and now I have to be worried about her trying to cut “carbs”? Makes me want to scream.
I told her her whole wheat toast with peanut butter is a fine breakfast and we need carbs for energy!!
Keto- a lot of men are on it. Would dare to say it was a “man” diet before it took off and became popular. It has been popular among weightlifters for sometime.
It was actually a medical diet to start – it can be extremely helpful to manage siezures, and it can be suggested for cancer patients as well, and an option for weight loss for patients that need it for health reasons. But to truly do that, you need serious medical supervision and it’s extremely stringent. I have a friend that’s on it to manage seizures, and she had to throw out her toothpaste and many beauty products – you don’t realize that there can even be sugar in your lotion.
And then weight lifters saw it and decided that it was their magic diet too. Which…
Most doctors who know what you’re actually doing and looking over your diet plan thoroughly don’t want you doing this diet for more than a few weeks. It’s dangerous in the long term.
That’s just it, it can be modified for sustainability. It doesn’t have to be all bacon wrapped beef bites with cheese. A normal meal will be salmon with sautéed spinach or a salad with avocado. For me after I dropped 30 lbs I eased up on certain things. I have never eaten red meat or pork and am not a huge meat eater in general so after a while if I didn’t feel like adding that chicken breast onto my salad, I skip it. I eat those berries if I want, I’ll eat extra. Stay active. I think the most valuable thing for me on the diet was just realizing how many carbs I was consuming because I didn’t consider certain things as the culprit. Carbs aren’t evil, my body just runs differently when I over consume them and keto helped me figure that out. I think more people need to just do research on things for better or worse.
The amount of keto related complications coming into the ER I work in is insane. Cardiac edema and kidney failure in otherwise healthy young people.
If you don’t have epilepsy, a select few inflammation disorders or type 2 diabetes keto isnt for you. Please please please stop doing it. Especially stop doing it in solitary with a spouse.
I’m not a nutritionist, but I would imagine carbohydrate cravings and binging would become an issue after you stop keto. Carbohydrates are the preferred fuel for the body, especially the brain. Getting them back after going into ketosis seems like it could spell a recipe for metabolism issues.
my ED, too. its like when crossfit took off and we started seeing lots of cases of rhabdo
Wow, agreed. The saturated fat in Keto didn’t make sense to me. My blood pressure went up with the bacon, so I dropped it. But Keto is how I found out what was inflammatory to my body, and all of the unhealthy fats had to go, and safe starches, like cassava and parsnips, are okay for my body. The “Keto” most people love who are just trying to drop pounds is steak with cheese and some broccoli, lol! My motivators were high cholesterol and pain. Old lady stuff. It concerns me that so many young people are doing it in an unhealthy way. Nothing that is worth it is easy, but it doesn’t have to be hard if you do the research.
As a doctor, I agree with this. Keto is great for certain people with certain conditions. But there is simply not enough information about the long term effects of prolonged ketosis on the body for this to be recommended as a “way of life.”
This whole discussion is so dumb. Simply googling Ketoacidosis pretty much explains everything you need to know about this ‘diet’. And that’s the thing: It’s NOT a diet. You’re forcing your body to essentially eat itself and starving your brain. I’m sorry but there IS no discussion on this.
So these people are advocating skinny over smarts and in the long run health.
Ketogenesis and ketoacidosis are NOT the same thing. I don’t think I am the one who needs to google.
Nope. But this diet has been known to trigger ketoacidosis.
You’re right. There can be no discussion about this issue with someone as ill-informed and insistent on their correctness as you. Ketosis and ketoacidosis are not the same thing, and the ketogenic diet is often prescribed for people with certain brain disorders because it improves brain function. Bless your little heart.
They’re not the same thing…
Hi everyone,
Without attacking Jillian Michaels, I think her comments were just too simplistic. I seems like we don’t really know enough yet to demonize all keto diets, as there is more than one type. A bit off topic in terms of keto for weight loss, but I think it’s pretty interesting that the Marines have put divers on ketogenic diets to decrease central nervous system toxicity. Ketogenic diets are also recommended in some cases for people with epilepsy.
I don’t have the knowledge to chime in on who’s right and who’s wrong here, so I won’t. But Andy Cohen hates women, so he loses by default.
Hah! Totally agree.
You know how some people, whereever they are, who ever they are with make everything better? Andy Cohen is the opposite of that. He drags everything down, and adds a think layer of misogynist frosting to the mix.
First we have Marie Kondo getting vitriol for helping us tidy up (a not so novel concept) then we have Jillian Michaels getting heat from celebs for suggesting the diet is not sustainable. None of the things the two ladies said should be controversial.
I don’t really remember people getting their pitchforks ready when Queer Eye the original or any HGTv makeover shows came out. Jillian is a veteran fitness expert. I may disagree with her on some points and Keto has been a lifesaver for many people but she’s no Joe Rogan.
Queer Eye as been criticized for “fat shaming” by the tumblr body positive comunity because they advise chubby men on what clothes to pick to make themselves look slimmer and tell them to consider getting a tan and work out sometimes.
My neurologìst said that this isn’t a healthy diet for everyone, and I shouldn’t try. I couldn’t imagine life without carbs, they’re what gives me my energy, and people who stay on this diet long-term have risks of dangerous health problems from it. These celebrities have their rights to opinions, but do they really need to go on social media bad mouthing someone who doesn’t feel the same about a fad diet?
People who say, I could never stop eating pasta, or I love bread too much to give it up, are the among the people who come at Keto the hardest, followed closely by people who studied nutrition in the low fat, high carb days who can’t be bothered to update their education.
You know what I love? My kids. My husband. My future grandkids. My job. My friends. I struggle with insulin resistance and have a borderline A1C. My doctor helped me design my low-carb diet that cycles on and off Ketogenesis (not Ketoacidosis, they are not same as I noted above).
Snuggle with your spaghetti if you love it that much. I’ve been that person too! I like this version of me much better.
I don’t have a spouse, kids, siblings or future grandkids or nieces/nephews. So I snuggle myself after a bowl of pasta. Poor me LOL
HA. I love this, Idiotsgalore
Casi – I think a lot of the blowback comes from the self-aggrandizing attitudes of a lot of people that follow it. Then, add to the fact that you could ask 5 different people who say they do Keto and get 5 different definitions of the diet and some of them are frighteningly bad. And like I said above – no, ketosis isn’t the same as ketoacidosis, but there is literature showing that ketoacidosis CAN be triggered in people who do not have diabetes while following a low carb high fat keto diet. So sure, they’re not the same. But this kind of diet DOES increase the risk.
“My doctor helped me design my low-carb diet that cycles on and off Ketogenesis (not Ketoacidosis, they are not same as I noted above).” And I think this is the key. How many people who are doing keto actually go to a doctor or registered dietitian before starting it? I know that not a single one of the people in my office that are going on and on about keto consulted their doctors. And that’s where a lot of people who come at keto have a problem. Because the bulk of people AREN’T weighing the pros and cons with a professional.
I just think a lot of people don’t understand keto. Carbs aren’t satan. I eat a boatload of carbs: zucchini, spinach, kale, collards, green beans, broccoli, Brussels sprouts, cabbage, sauerkraut, asparagus, cucumbers, tomatoes, onions, pickles… So I get a lot of gut and heart healthy fiber every day. Plus some carbs in nuts and dairy. I guarantee I’m eating a lot more healthy veggies than the standard American diet includes and it makes me feel great.
And yes, I do get some saturated fat when I eat steak, pork, chicken etc but most Americans eat some of those things and I don’t get much more of that than the average American diet includes.
I also get a lot of healthy fats from avocados, eggs, salmon, and nuts. I do sometimes miss pasta and bread. But I don’t miss being bloated, having rosacea flareups, or carrying a bunch of extra weight.
Most people eating keto are not pounding Big Macs. Heart health isn’t a huge issue for the most part.
This is true, a lot of people do not understand what keto is. It’s not Atkins! And it’s not a “diet” diet.
I think maybe because the keto diet has a lot of room for people to tailor to their likes? I mean, I basically eat exactly like you do (minus the meat) and I’m not on a diet. I DO eat pretty strictly during the week though and let myself cheat a bit on the weekends.
But yeah, it seems like with keto you could go heavy on the meat if that’s what you prefer however, nothing I saw in a quick google search showed that you can’t have plenty of veggies if you want to.
Exactly.
^^^This.
I get my carbs from veggies and fruits, not bread and pasta. I love bread and pasta but they are a no go for me sadly.
Anyone who is on the full-blown medical version of keto is on the absolutely no carb version. The rest of us who eat veg and healthy fats are still getting carbs. It’s very sustainable. I eat 10 cups of veg a day, 3 liters of water, lean proteins and, because I break out in a keto rash which is my body’s warning systems that I have gone too far, fruit. The only foods are don’t eat are processed foods. I am not cutting out a food group, only a bad portion of the food industry.
I was on keto for a few months and lost about 7-8 kilos. I was happy. It was not sustainable AT ALL and not only did I regain those 7-8 kilos, I gained an additional 3. Yeah, it sucks.
Wow. Jenna Jameson is not even recognizable in that photo. It doesn’t seem like it can be health long-term but, to each their own, I guess.
The first I heard of keto was several years ago when my coworker went on it and lost a bunch of weight. He explained what it was it to me, prefacing it with “now don’t get me wrong, it’s a terrible idea!” And I’ve always kind of thought of it that way…
I think it’s probably good for a quick fix (the way my coworker used it), but why would you do that to yourself long term?
Our bodies were made to burn fat. So much so that we literally convert carbs (and the sugars they get digested into) into fat that gets “stored” for when we need it.
Not surprised as some of the comments on the original post were going for the jugular because how dare someone question the current diet they are on and it’s been working for them and you’re WRONG and DUMB if your opinion doesn’t align with mine. Every person is different and many ppl on the “Keto” diet aren’t even doing it properly. My certified nutritionist friend says any diet that restricts an entire food group is not a life long sustainable diet and could potentially lead to issues dependent on the person. My own dietician (I’m Type 1 Diabetic) doesn’t recommend and prefers low carb and portion control as it’s a more moderate approach to limiting carbs that could affect my blood sugar. Eating several servings or overdoing it on fat also doesn’t seem like a healthy choice. It’ll be interesting several years down the road to see the affect of this fad on those who swear by it and if it is indeed “completely healthy “. Do your research is always the best bet…I think a balanced diet, lots of exercise and just taking care of your overall health is the best lifestyle choice but too many ppl find that too difficult so good luck to them!
I am not a fan of this woman, but I don’t understand the hatred being spewed at her for her comments. I’m glad Al Roker lost weight on this, but the average person does not have a nutritionist and personal chef on staff to help them manage their diet and make sure they are doing it right. I do think in the wrong hands, and with a lack of understanding this can be a dangerous diet for a lot of people.
And the blind focus on weight loss alone is so unhealthy. Let’s not forget that people used to swallow tape worms in an effort to lose weight. I don’t think we’ve progressed very far since those days.
I’m going to need people who don’t feed at the same NBC/Universal trough to not disparage someone for working at a place where “bullying , deprivation, manipulation” are used when it literally happened in their workplace (Today Show) or they are actively creating a space for it to happen as entertainment (Ho’wives Shows). The hypocrisy is enough to choke on. And I don’t even like Jillian.
It did strike me as a little odd that Al Roker, longtime NBC employee, immediately took such public issue with the Biggest Loser.
Jillian Michaels, who thinks you should be pushing a car tire on a beach for five hours to burn the bagel you ate three days ago, does not understand what keto means and should shut up.
To be fair, the producers created a lot of these challenges with the trainers giving input on how to push the contestants. Also the contestants had to lose a crazy amount of weight in limited time to of course the workouts were more drastic and frankly made for “good tv”. I agree She stayed on the show far too long but has spoken about how she is coaching a more healthy approach to fitness including balanced diets. She along with the other trainer were shocked and a bit disgusted when that one contestant starved herself to win the prize money. We as Americans have an unhealthy relationship with food and fitness as a whole so unfair to paint her as some villain when she’s noted the errors of her ways and is promoting a very fair outlook on health (exercise, portion control, physical and emotional upkeep).
The plot of the show was to lose the most weight in a short period of time. She was doing her job.
No, I think she really believes in crazy exercise, which only makes things worse.
JB is correct, she’s spoken out against the methods more than a few times since leaving the show. I question her staying on as long as she did, absolutely, but I haven’t seen anything from her since promoting “crazy exercise” like you’re talking about.
I love Jillian, She changed my life. She is a motivator and a great trainer. I’ve never been stronger. She carried me through depression and divorce.
Sugars aren’t the best thing for you, but neither is saturated fat or animal fats pretty much in general. I eat them ll, because I have knowledge but no willpower.
I’m still in good physical shape because I exercise daily. I’m sure the answer is balance. but I really do trust Jillian. She has a good heart and wants to help people.
I’m a big fan. Her workouts kick butt. I’m doing the 30 day shed and shred but i don’t work out that often, just like twice a week. But i want to work out hard when i do. The constant changing of exercises makes it go by fast for me. I like to do the 30 min ones, the 45 i can barely make it through.
30 day shred fan too! I used those videos to get myself into working out regularly. I found it to be fun and not as complicated as I thought working out needed to be. In my head, because of all the things you see regarding exercise, I thought I needed to go to the gym and torture myself, which I can’t really do. You can find time to exercise anywhere in your house once you know what you’re doing, which those vids helped me with.
I dont think extreme diets work in the long term. Back when Atkins was the in diet, people would lose weight and then gain it back after they went off it. I had a co worker who was constantly on one extreme diet or another. One time she was doing injections and 500 calories. Once off it, gain it all back. Imo, you’re just setting yourself up for a lifetime of yo yo dieting and wrecking your metabolism. Finally, she did gastric sleeve. I since quit my job so i haven’t seen her recently
For me, counting calories is the best. I don’t feel cravings because i can eat whatever I want. But, to stay within or close to my set calories, I have to eat less. And the healthier stuff I eat, i can eat a higher volume of food. So it makes me eat healthier without feeling deprived.
Keto isn’t a new thing, neither is fasting. I don’t understand why people are making a big deal out of either but that’s just me. Everybody should do what works for them and stop judging and shaming people for personal choices. At the end of day what someone else chooses to eat or not to eat doesn’t hurt me. And you can’t usually tell how healthy someone is based on how they look.
^^^^^this 100%
People love getting upset about stuff on the internet. Last week it was the tidying up lady and now this is coming back around for some reason. If the keto diet works for you and it’s done under the supervision of a doctor (reading articles on the internet does not make you an expert) then thats really fantastic for you. It doesn’t work for everyone and its important to always be critical of “fad diets.” I’m not saying that keto doesn’t work, obviously it does for quite a few people. However, dont freak out when someone points out that there can be health risks with any diet that requires you to cut things out. Everyone is different and so are people’s diets. Also, of all of the celebs in the world why do we care about what Andy Cohen thinks?
Yes! This, please! I’m always interested in people’s stories and struggles. It helps me to be more empathetic and less judgmental just knowing that others have radically different experiences.
I have my own opinions of the keto diet but that’s neither here nor there.
As with anything medical or health related, if look hard enough you will find ‘proof’ and studies and information that goes either way. If you have it in your mind that keto is good, you will find information which tells you that yes it is. If you think it is bad, you will find information that proves that as well.
Any diet will work if you stick to it and truly believe it will work. However, once you are no longer on the diet, it is likely that you will gain weight back. Most people who lose weight on a ‘diet’ will gain the weight back, something like 90% of people do. That is why, for me, I don’t believe in diets. I believe in a lifestyle of eating real, unprocessed foods, limited refined sugars and the odd splurge. That is something anyone can ‘stick to’. It has taken me 3 years now to get to this point and the weight has fallen off gradually and has stayed off. Yes, I indulge in a burger and fries occasionally. Alcohol sometimes too but I find with the consistency of a balanced lifestyle, anything is possible. There is nothing to ‘stick to’ it’s just my life. And I am consistent with exercise as well.
One of my relatives has heart failure. Hearing about people on the keto diet putting butter in coffee and eating so much animal fat really makes me sad. I think they don’t realize what damage they could be doing to their heart health in the long run. Long term it’s just not a good idea.
Sorry to hear about your relative but to add to the point made earlier about research and data this is from the Heart Institute website: “Recent research has shown that consuming even more healthy fat can lower heart disease risk, while high-glycemic carbohydrate intake is linked to the development of heart disease.” As of right now there isn’t a lot of solid medical or scientific evidence that suggests that Keto leads to significant heart issues. And as other posters have said, if you look hard enough you can find data in favor of or against just about everything out there.
Eating a Keto Diet doesn’t mean that one is doomed to die from heart issues. There’s a lot of recent research that suggests that high cholesterol may not even be linked to heart issues and that all the data from decades ago could have been skewed or influenced by shady folks who had an interest in promoting a certain diet at that time.
+1
I keep thinking about the people I knew if the 70’s-80’s who insisted on eating their healthy soft margarine instead of butter. And hey, look, a few years later, we find out that those “healthy” margarine were made of really, worst thing in the world for you, transfats. The demonetization of animal fats, in favor of processed “vegetable” fats or low fat foods, probably steered a lot of people wrong, but probably also made a lot of money for people who make highly processed foods.
I think with proper supervision the Keto Diet has a place. Al I believe has diabetes or had & the diet is meant for people with such issues. As a laymen starting it may be unwise or be cautious for your kidneys, is my advice.
As for Jillian, a study has been done & the people who were on the biggest loser, start their days with a roughly 750 calorie deficit due to the extreme dieting & how it has ruined their metabolisms.
I am just trying to eat real food/less processed & move more, long term weight loss is slow & steady.
I think there is a difference between keto fad dieters and those who have embraced a more wholistic approach. I am on a low carb lifestyle – specifically one called the Autoimmune Protocol. It’s very devoid of junk and mostly focused on clean eating with healthy fats. To give you an idea of what I eat, I just finished a salad with 3 cups of mixed greens, a quarter of an avacado, 1 slice of bacon, 1oz of roasted chicken, olive oil, vinegar, and some mustard. My dinner will be roasted salmon with air fried broccoli that has been maninating in olive oil, lemon juice, and black pepper. Breakfast was a spinach omlet. Basic food that makes me feel good.
Once more thing…keto can be great at weight loss but it has to be a maintained lifestyle choice. I know many people who have yo-yo dieted and gained back all their weight and more (a friend of mine who gained a ton of weight back after she lost it recently died from complications from a bad flu bug, her heart just gave out). It’s because people who are obese tend to have more fat cells than those who are not, and several studies have found an increase in fat cell number with weight regain following weight loss. You never actually “lose” fat cells, they just shrink so it’s critical to maintain a healthy eating style, not just go back to your old diet once the weight has come off.
It’s totally sustainable. I eat eggs for breakfast, or an omelette if I have time to deal with chopping veggies.
I eat a huge salad for lunch, with chicken or salmon if it’s available.
I eat meat + 2 vegetables for dinner.
Snacks are nuts, string cheese or hardboiled eggs.
Some days I don’t eat, because I’m just not hungry. A year ago that would’ve sounded insane to me. I thought the “I forgot to eat today” people were liars. Nope.
Haven’t had any beer or fast food in months. Dropped weight, my hair looks amazing, my nails are extremely strong, my skin cleared up, and my digestive issues are pretty much gone.
It might not be sustainable for people if you think “people can’t give up bread forever!” but they sure can, and I don’t even miss it. I don’t miss sugar either. (I miss pizza if I smell it, full disclosure.)
It doesn’t have to be franken-foods and bacon wrapped everything. Like the vegetarian who lives off potato chips and Diet Coke, there’s following the letter of the diet as opposed to following the spirit of the diet. Eating whole, unprocessed food is better for you than the SAD, no matter what food habits you follow. Get your carbs in vegetables, not bread and noodles.
Bread and noodles are not the only carbs you can’t have. Can’t have beans (black, kidney, etc), many vegetables (carrots, corn, etc), no rice/quinoa/sweet potatoes/squash, can’t have most fruits like apples, bananas etc. Which all seems fine until I ask myself if I would feed my child this diet & I say no, which makes me wonder if it’s not good for children, its it good for me? I don’t know, but can’t wait til more studies come out to make an educated decision. I do try to eat mostly whole food, and before that didn’t realize how much processed things I ate but now I look at others carts in grocery stores and see all the boxes in theirs, while mine now has very few.
Technically you can have any of those fruits and vegetables (or bread and noodles, for that matter) as long as it fits your macros. I use high carb veggies in salads, just small amounts of them. Not a huge fan of beans, but I budget the carbs so I can have chili if I want it. Snacking on fruit spikes my blood sugar, I don’t miss it.
I honestly don’t see the problem, at least there isn’t one for me. I feel great, I look better, and I’m happy with eating this way. People get defensive and “cult-like” about keto because for so many people struggling with obesity, it is the ONLY thing that has worked for them. You get your appetite under control, which seems like insanity when your appetite is not under control. It feels like magic.
Yikes, the keto folks are as bad as the crossfitters, hey? Some of the responses are so aggressive, you’d think JM insulted their religion. Let’s get some perspective, people. It’s a freaking diet.
No body “needs” pasta, bread, rice, potatoes. Every other carb is healthy in moderation. As soon as you put a label on something people lose their minds. I eat carbs from vegetables and dairy and have put my type II diabetes into remission. I log every bite that passes my lips and have regular labs to ensure my body is healthy, which it is. I also walk at least 10k steps per day. It’s easy to do this in a healthy and sustainable way.
You really need to stop calling this a “fad” diet. It’s been around since the late 1800’s, it used to be called Banting. Became popular again in the 70’s and hasn’t gone away since. Nothing “fad” about it.
Before the FDA decided fat was bad and carbs were healthy by using studies tested on rabbits, you know, animals who bodies can’t process animal products (mid-70’s) any diet plan was low-carb. All restaurants had a diet platter of hamburger patty and cottage cheese on lettuce. Lower carb (not low-carb) was the normal way of eating. Americans became fat after the FDA’s ruling.
I remember my dad being upset because he had to give up his butter and my mom started buying margarine. My dad was pissed. LOL
^^^^
This. And then, decades down the road, it turns out that margerine is trans-fat poison. Yet we were hammered with “butter is bad, margerine is healthy” for a very long time. Also, eggs were the devil in disguise, remember that? All of this and more was coming from nutritionists and Doctors.
I also don’t really understand the “keto means kilos of bacon” or “lots of animal fats” comments. The emphasis is on healthy fats and no one is going to argue that olive oil is bad for you. Nor is anyone going to argue that eating high fat fish is bad for you. Or that cutting sugar out of your diet is going to kill you. Or even that getting your carbs from “above ground” veggies like spinach, kale, broccoli etc rather than bread and pasta is a poor diet choice.
Isn’t Keto very low carb? Only green vegetables except tomatoes. Only berries for fruit, & even have to limit that. When I look at Keto recipes it’s a lot of meat, usually a meat dish with green vegetables. I don’t love meat so it’s not for me, but my husband would likely love it. But a recent study (over like 20 or 40 yrs) showed those who ate extremely low carb lived 4 yrs less, so maybe long term it’s not so good.
I would rather live a healthy and active 4 years less than the fat, miserable person I was before whose body ached day in and day out, and this was in my early 30’s, way too young for those types of health problems (I was vegan). They don’t specify why keto people die 4 years earlier, it’s probably from freak skiing, hiking, sky diving, kayaking accidents.
On Keto risks were also increased for individual causes of death including coronary heart disease, stroke, and cancer. That being said, it’s one study so no one hangs their hat on a single study. And even if true, I can understand your decision if living a life before Keto was so unsatisfying in comparison. But I also understand people warning of that very real negative effect of Keto.
That’s just it, they’re not very real negative effects of keto. I’ve been low-carb/keto for 25 years, I have perfect numbers. I know a number of people who have been on it longer than me, they’re perfectly healthy and very active.
There are a lot of studies showing how healthy low-carb/keto is. The problem is people read and believe propaganda headlines instead of doing their own research.
Keto isn’t for everyone and that’s fine. It just gets really old when people bash it without knowing the facts.
you guys who doing keto really are fitting into the stereotype
so aggressive/defensive
if it works for you, cool
but there are also many who just do it without understanding
and it is not what JM said is new or wrong either
People still mistake being skinny with being healthy. It doesn’t really have anything to do with each other. Jillian said it’ll get you the weight loss you want short-term but long-term it’s just not healthy.
That’s what I wonder, especially those going on it who only are looking to lose 10 or 20 lbs. Is it better to live your life 20 lbs heavier eating all kinds/unlimited fruits & vegetables, or very thin but restricting many foods. Who lives longer? Because an extra few pounds may not look so pretty but it’s not restricting my lifestyle in any way & living 4 yrs less is not worth looking great in my bathing suit.
I’ve lost 40 lbs with Keto. I eat fruit, veg, healthy fats, and seafood (I don’t eat red meat or poultry) The only things I gave up are processed foods, sugar, bread and pasta. I’m not sure why my diet is a bad idea to some. Ignorance, I suppose.