Karen Pence is going back to teaching & the school is very anti-LGBTQ

U.S. Vice President Mike Pence in Tokyo

Mother Pence and Mother’s Husband are very religious and conservative. I tend to believe it started as Karen Pence’s religion and Mike Pence just adopted her vision of a strict Christian life along the way. I really have no idea what Mother does all day besides wait around for her husband to call and ask for her advice, but it looks like Mother’s Husband hasn’t been calling too much lately. So she decided to take on another job: she will teach art at a private Christian school in Northern Virginia. The school discriminates against LGBTQ kids and kids with LGBTQ family members. Because “Christian.”

Karen Pence, wife of Vice President Mike Pence, started at a job this week teaching art at Immanuel Christian School in Northern Virginia. It’s not a school where everyone is welcome. In a “parent agreement” posted online, the school says it will refuse admission to students who participate in or condone homosexual activity. The 2018 employment application also makes candidates sign a pledge not to engage in homosexual activity or violate the “unique roles of male and female.”

“Moral misconduct which violates the bona fide occupational qualifications for employees includes, but is not limited to, such behaviors as the following: heterosexual activity outside of marriage (e.g., premarital sex, cohabitation, extramarital sex), homosexual or lesbian sexual activity, polygamy, transgender identity, any other violation of the unique roles of male and female, sexual harassment, use or viewing of pornographic material or websites,” says the application.

The application says that the school believes “marriage unites one man and one woman” and that “a wife is commanded to submit to her husband as the church submits to Christ.” The application asks potential employees to explain their view of the “creation/evolution debate.”

The “parent agreement” asks parents to cooperate in its “biblical morality” policy. Under this policy, parents are to acknowledge the sanctity of marriage as a strictly heterosexual practice. Families who condone, practice or support “sexual immorality, homosexual activity or bi-sexual activity” go against the principles of the school, per the document.

[From HuffPo]

I guess it would too much for Mother Pence to slum it by teaching art in a public school, where she might have to avert her eyes whenever she chanced upon a gay kid or the child of unmarried mother. What’s weird is that NoVa public schools are famously GREAT. Here in Virginia, we have one of the better public school systems in the country, and northern Virginia schools are high-quality. The fact that Mother couldn’t even hack it at a public school pisses me off just as much as the fact that she’s choosing to teach at this homophobic bulls–t Christian school. Also: Mother knows art? I didn’t know that. Was that well-known? She taught art in Indiana for 12 years, and she was a school teacher for 25 years total.

U.S. Vice President Pence in Japan

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  1. Tourmaline says:

    Fun fact: Pence is not her first husband. She was a divorcee when they got together. So marriage has united two men with one woman according to these school rules, in the case of Miz Karen. Apparently that is forgiven by the right wing nuts and hypocrites in her milieu.

    • lucy2 says:

      ESCANDALO!!!!!!

      • pottymouth pup says:

        I recall reading somewhere that he had concerns over whether he could forgive her for having been married & not being a virgin that he needed to resolve to be able to marry her. I guess G-d’s forgiveness wasn’t enough for him.

        It’s him that was a religious zealot and she followed his path, not the other way around

      • velourazure says:

        These flaming hypocritical bigots make me want to vomit.

    • Pandy says:

      Ooh did not know that! It IS ESCANDALO lolll. Do VP wives generally work?? Other than cutesy books about their rabbit?

    • Christin says:

      Funny how that fun fact is overlooked, both in Mother’s and Orange’s cases.

      To clarify for those fortunate enough not to know this, some view divorce (regardless of reason) as a huge issue. There are pastors who refuse to perform marriage ceremonies for a divorced person, even if the divorce was in no way their fault (other person had affair, left, abused them, etc.).

      • TheHufflepuffLizLemon says:

        Hell yah. Grew up in one of those churches-we left, and my parents were never fully into it. Abuse is supposed to be a subject of prayer, not a reason to leave. Same thing with infidelity. The ONLY acceptable reason for divorce was if your non-Christian spouse chose to voluntarily leave you, and you exhausted all remedies to save both the marriage and that person’s soul. And that was a pretty liberal take.
        *sigh*

      • noway says:

        A more mainstream and large religion, Catholics aren’t fond of divorce either. For generations and even today you have to get the church to annul your marriage to marry in the church again. Which usually means a large donation to the diocese. Have kid’s? Doesn’t matter, except maybe you have to give a bigger donation. For decades this generally meant only rich people could marry again. Without an annulment you were thought to still be married to the ex, at least in the churches eyes. Nice, right. I think most of these religions with the right amount of cash will let you out, and I’m sure she had to pony something up to get her church divorce too and marry him.

      • Arpeggi says:

        @Noway, nowadays, the Catholic church doesn’t work like this, in most places at least. They’re so happy whenever they have ppl in their churches that they’ll accept anything. My brother is a godfather even though we aren’t baptized or believe in God, I’ve been to weddings where one of the spouse wasn’t catholic (They totally did it for the pretty pictures), the priests didn’t seem to care. The last baptism I went to wasn’t even performed by a priest but by a civilian lady, in the backroom of the church (cuz it’s winter and no one wants to pay to heat the church, lol!) so yeah, they overlook things quite a bit. Of course, things can be different in countries were the church still has a lot of power like in some latin american countries, but most of the time, now, being divorced doesn’t matter much.

      • Dorothy K Zbornak says:

        @Arpeggi, I was divorced in my late 20s. My ex was verbally abusive. When my now husband and I were planning our wedding, we asked a Catholic church in London to perform the ceremony. We were told that was not allowed due to my being divorced. This was not even 10 years ago. So it absolutely still happens.

  2. Incredulous says:

    I hope that school receives neither state nor federal funding.

  3. OriginalLala says:

    But how will she supervise Mother’s Husband to make sure he isn’t having solo meetings with *gasp* the jezebel womenfolk??!?!?!?!

  4. Jenns says:

    Well, when the towel charm profits aren’t paying for the legal retainer, I guess Mother has no choice but resort to her usual hateful ways.

    • Tourmaline says:

      Hehe yes how can we forget the towel-charms entrepreneurship!

      • Jenns says:

        The towel charms are far more fascinating to me than the “mother” nickname. That was her husband’s idea. But Karen came up with the towel charm thing all on her own. It pretty much sums up the intellectual level of these two idiots.

      • Tourmaline says:

        @Jenns I just read that her towel charm brainstorm came when someone accidentally took her towel at a lake, and she came up with the idea which was charms that said and I quote THAT’S MY TOWEL. lol

      • Jenns says:

        Imagine being so uptight that someone took your towel that you literally started a towel charm business.

        I hope that no one ever takes a sip of her drink, because STRAW CHARMS will be next.

    • Joob says:

      Just googled this! OMG! hahaha!

  5. Megan says:

    Just when we thought Pence might be looking better than Trump, his wife reminds us he is just as horrible.

    • Gina says:

      Pence is trump with legislative experience …let that sink in

      • lucy2 says:

        And smug “religion”. Dump’s only religion is himself.
        I’m not sure which is worse. They both need to GO.

      • noway says:

        I know I’m actually torn about this. Trump seems literally crazy and a narcissist. Pence is a religious right wing wacko. Originally, I though the religious right wing nut probably wouldn’t get us into WWIII as easily and put kids in cages- kind of anti-Chrisitian, and I still sort of feel that way, but Pence lies so easily to support Trump’s agenda. I’m afraid what has saved us some is Trump’s incompetence and Pence probably wouldn’t be as incompetent or at least not in the same way. Still I think I am leaning toward Trump’s crazy being worse. It’s too unpredictable. Still wouldn’t it be nice if both were impeached and we got Nancy Pelosi.

  6. Chaine says:

    She already taught at the same school when he was in the House of Representatives.

  7. Gina says:

    Shocked…not

    Everyone has a right to their opinions but the optics of the vice presidents wife teaching at a school like this is deplorable

    Then again the white house doesn’t care about optics they aRe okay with everyone seeing what they are with no remorse or understanding . They are bold with their hatred racism and sexism

  8. Tiffany says:

    That woman is pure evil. I have not felt this much hatred for a first lady since Nancy Reagan.

  9. Elisabeth says:

    As someone who went to a private baptist school, it comes as no shock about this policy.
    They do not feel that being gay is something you are born being, they feel it’s a choice.

    With that being said, some of the most disgusting perverted and despicable people I ever met was at church/baptist school.

    So glad I’m out of it…

    • The Rickest Rick says:

      My heart goes out to all the poor children sent to that school

      • Snappyfish says:

        That is my feeling as well. The children of people who have NO IDEA what Christian love or morals are. Isn’t it interesting that their “God” hates all the same things that they do? Or that they believe their “God” would discriminate or exclude any of humanity? Here is your Fake News, folks, that the Pences are Christian. They are as far from the ideal of Christianity that one can be. Both hypocrites and I firmly Believe he is a self hating homosexual of the pray the gay away variety. Dangerous.

        I get that is it a private school BUT the second lady of the US ahould not be teaching at a school that thwarts the laws of the Commonweath or the US.

    • MeghanNotMarkle says:

      My Baptist church covered up my rape because the perpetrator’s family were church members and therefore “good people.” I tried going back to church a few years ago when we moved across the country and didn’t last long. I just can’t hate anyone enough to fall in line with religion.

  10. Dr Mrs The Monarch says:

    This is not a Christian school. Christians are not supposed to judge children for the “sins” of their parents. (Also, being gay really should not be considered a sin if we are supposedly made in God’s image).

    This is a school that teaches hate instead of love. This is a school that will teach book burning instead of critical thinking. This is a school that will teach blind obedience instead of leadership- that is the message being pushed by the current administration.

    And these are the same people who love to claim that THEY are the ones being persecuted and punished.

    • Christin says:

      Sometimes I wonder if people who blindly follow such intolerance have ever completely read a Bible, or if it is just the herd mentality. I personally believe that Jesus would accept everyone, instead of only those who check off every box of someone’s rules.

  11. eto says:

    “a wife is commanded to submit to her husband as the church submits to Christ.”
    This is TERRIFYING – in their eyes, your husband is a Christ figure??? God help those poor children.

  12. lucy2 says:

    I feel sorry for the kids who are forced to go here. Being taught to hate is horrible, especially if it’s self-hate. I hope any who are suffering in that environment are able to get away from it as soon as they can.

  13. Nikki says:

    SO DEPRESSING that such attitudes exist. SO DEPRESSING that the most hate is being done in the name of someone whose biggest directive was to love, help the suffering, and not judge. SO upsetting that there’s so much hate every day under Trump and his cronies. My heart breaks for any LGBTQ kid whose self esteem is poisoned by their garbage.

  14. Swack says:

    “The fact that Mother couldn’t even hack it at a public school . . .” For these hyper-christian type who have taught in environments that restrict who is allowed in and who is expelled (for very little reasons) definitely cannot handle a public school where all are accepted. As a former teacher (retired after 30 years) I watched a teacher come in from a private school to teach in the public school where I was. He lasted a whole 2 weeks. In public school you deal every hour (unless you have an honors class or higher level class) with students of all abilities. So you need to find a way to reach all of them. I student taught in a private school and it was the easiest thing I did in my teaching experience. A student laughed at my voice one day (I was coming off a bad case of flu and it was about an octave lower than normal) and the supervising teacher made him teach the class until I was well enough to do so (it was the top math class of the top seniors in the school). You don’t get that in public schools. What I want to know is will we as tax payers be paying for Secret Service protection every day she works? That is not right and a waste of money. Find something else to do with your time if your bored instead of wasting tax payer money.

    • BabyJane says:

      I appreciate your sentiments but your experience is not universal.

      Students in AP, IB, and honors courses have students of varied abilities as well (especially in schools with open enrollment), not to mention varied mental health, study skills, social issues, and whatever.

      Also, it is not only in private schools that an instructor can earn/demand respect or, at the very least, decency.

      This woman is vile for many reasons, and certainly she would struggle in ANY school that permitted homosexuality (public or private).

      • Kim says:

        In my local school systems you will not find ‘students of varied abilities’ in AP, IB and honors courses. Students fight to get into these programs, a 4.0 isn’t good enough.

      • BabyJane says:

        Well, you will in schools with open enrollment who permit students opportunities to access AP, IB, and honors even if they made mistakes or hadn’t perfected their study skills in previous years.

  15. Lady Keller says:

    I have a fully functioning brain and therefore I do not need to “submit” to my husband. I will let him take the lead in areas where he has more expertise than I do, like vehicle repair. He will let me take the lead in areas where i am stronger, which sadly tend to typically be female domain (cooking, taking care of the kids, laundry etc). While our marriage may make it look like we endorse very stereotypical gender norms, it’s just because that’s how it played out for us.

    I hate people that need to define how marriage works for everyone else. What business is it of Karen Pence if 2 men want to get married? Because a book that was written 2000 years ago told you it’s wrong? Human beings and society have evolved a lot since then. These people need to put their bibles down and go out into the community and meet people who live in the 21s century.

    • Megsie says:

      I don’t know, it might be unrealistic to ask Jews, Christians, and Muslims to forgo their sacred texts in favor of transitory popular opinion. Ofc some will and have but I’m not convinced it will work with all of them. Most will simply abandon the religion all together, no?

  16. Sadezilla says:

    My question is, why does Mother teach art given her worldview? It must not be very searching art, then. What art is deemed acceptable by Mother and her very repressive-sounding school? Certainly anything that pushes boundaries would not be embraced? I’m just very confused. I suppose I could fire up the old Internet and search what kind of art they teach in evangelical Christian schools, but I’m not sure I have the steely nerve for that particular rabbit hole.

  17. Abby says:

    Art therapy is one of Karen Pence’s causes. My SIL is an art therapist, and Karen visited her tiny art therapy center last year as part of a tour to champion this method of therapy. It was very controversial, having her there, because of her views. My SIL was grateful for the exposure for art therapy, just wishing it was not such a lightning rod administration.

    Not defending anything in this news story–just alluding that she has an interest / background with art.

  18. Penguin says:

    After reading queerness in America and how the private catholic school the author went to made him hate himself well beyond leaving the school. All I can say is that this woman is evil. She’s openly telling these kids much who don’t have their own identity figured out that being gays a sin and blah. She’s gonna have these kids questioning and hating themselves and their own beliefs over her fear of man on man or woman woman sexual encounters!!! Ugh I’m enraged

  19. Christin says:

    Maybe Mother needs a day job because of an upcoming job loss for dear husband?

    • Patrizio says:

      Hope so! I sincerely hope these people all go straight to hell. I feel sorry for the gay kids at the school because make no mistake- they are there.

      • Christin says:

        No doubt they are. The parents sign them up for it, and the child has to endure the intolerance.

  20. CairinaCat says:

    All Christian private schools are like this. You have to sign a contract saying what you will and won’t do, that you agree with the beliefs.
    You have that your family will go to church every week.
    If you won’t sign you don’t get in.
    And they can use it against you later.
    This is on California.
    I went to private Christian schools, and checked out many schools when my kids were young.
    They all had this.

    I would never send my kid to a hate preaching school now.
    But getting out from under the brainwashing is hard though.
    But I did

  21. Angela82 says:

    America is exhausting.

  22. molly says:

    Remember when Michelle Obama got crushed for showing her shoulders and trying to get kids healthy food?
    I do.

  23. MeghanNotMarkle says:

    My super religious Baptist father is on his 4th wife. Do As I Say, Not As I Do is the 11th commandment, dontcha know.

  24. Ennie says:

    “a wife is commanded to submit to her husband as the church submits to Christ.”
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    🤦🏻‍♀️😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
    Also: my teaching butt would’ve kicked off since I don’t care about sta or coworkers lifestyle ss long as long as we are all respectful and don’t get into pda at school. Does this school include kicking hypocritical bit**es in the style of that supreme court beer chugging – girl gropabuser guy or they are ok with that? (Boys will be boys). Gosh, I LOVED the Gillete ad.

  25. tw says:

    MOTHER! Tell your children not to hear my words, what they mean, what they say, MOTHER!
    …sorry that song pops in my head every time I see her…

  26. Megsie says:

    I have little to no patience with evangelical American Christianity, but it’s a private school so meh.