As we discussed yesterday, Beyonce and Jay-Z attended Game 3 of the NBA Finals. They sat courtside, and they happened to be seated next to Joe Lacob and his wife Nicole Curran. Lacob owns the Golden State Warriors, one of the most successful franchises of the NBA. None of that was the point though. The point of the story was that Nicole and Beyonce were seated beside each other and Nicole leaned over Beyonce to talk to Jay-Z. ESPN posted a very short clip of the LEAN IN, and the Beyhive was convinced that Beyonce seemed uncomfortable with Curran leading over her to speak to Jay. This discomfort was seemingly confirmed when, after Curranâs lean, Beyonce sort of bumped Curranâs shoulder to get her out of her space. Plus, the look on Beyonceâs face was just⊠classic.
Jay-Z and BeyoncĂ© are courtside for Game 3 đ pic.twitter.com/6mmJuN8Odn
— ESPN (@espn) June 6, 2019
So the whole thing became A THING and the Beyhive pounced, as they are wont to do. To be clear, 99.9% of the time, the Beyhive âpouncesâ by⊠sending bee emojis and making Becky jokes. Thatâs what I saw in the hours following The Lean: Curranâs Instagram comments were flooded with bee emojis:
I stay up at night wondering if a single human on this planet will ever love me as much as the Beyhive loves Beyonce pic.twitter.com/rf0ROKrtGp
— KB (@KaraRBrown) June 6, 2019
Yall the BeyHive is CARRYING on Nicole Curranâs Instagram đđđ©đ©đ€Łđ€Ł #Beyonce #NicoleCurran pic.twitter.com/4UZyA5cqjc
— Raffy Regulus the Enbydexterous (@raffy_regulus) June 6, 2019
It happens literally all the time. The Beyhive monitors their queen and jumps to her defense constantly. They are hyper-vigilant. They swarm and bee-emoji attack the likes of Kid Rock and Tamera Mowry-Housley and they still have their eye on Becky With the Good Hair. But I guess Nicole Curran has never been swarmed before. She tried to do damage control by posting this to her Instagram:
When I saw that IG yesterday, she had already disabled the comments so that post would not be swarmed with bee-emojis and skulls. It was a bad photo to use, right? Because itâs another photo where Curran seems to be invading Beyonceâs personal space. Anyway, at some point on Thursday, Curran just deactivated her social media accounts and then she ended up pleading with the Beyhive to leave her alone:
Just spoke to Nicole Curran, the wife of Warriors owner Joe Lacob, about the âincident â with BeyoncĂ© last night. She was in tears. Said she had been getting death threats on social media all night this morning she disabled her IG account just to make it stop.
— Ramona Shelburne (@ramonashelburne) June 6, 2019
Curran said she had no idea anything was even amiss until she got home and started seeing texts from friends and checked her social media. Sheâs invited Jay Z and BeyoncĂ© to the game 3-4 times before. Last night she says she asked if they wanted drinks. BeyoncĂ© asked for water
— Ramona Shelburne (@ramonashelburne) June 6, 2019
Curran says Jay Z asked for a vodka soda. She asked if he wanted lime with that. But it was loud in Oracle and she couldnât hear, so she leaned over. Thatâs where the photos of BeyoncĂ© looking askance at her come from.
— Ramona Shelburne (@ramonashelburne) June 6, 2019
Curran says she then went to go get them those drinks. âThere was no hostility. I was trying to be a good hostess,â she said. âIâve never experienced cyber bullying like this. I canât believe our players go through this. That kids go through this.â
— Ramona Shelburne (@ramonashelburne) June 6, 2019
Do you buy this or nah? I think Curran was definitely shocked by the reaction of the Hive, and I think what happened to her definitely constitutes cyberbullying. I also buy that whatever was happening in that clip was probably pretty innocent in Curranâs mind, although Iâm still analyzing Beyonceâs body language, you know? The thing is, I feel like this situation just could have been something fun and funny, like âOMFG did you see Beyonce give a little shoulder-bump to the woman who leaned over her?â and then it turned into something really rough.
Also: there were a lot of people wondering why Beyonce hasnât said anything directly about this situation, but I donât think itâs particularly notable that Bey hasnât released anything in her own name – she rarely, if ever, does that. Bey rarely speaks on behalf of Bey. What she did do was authorize her publicist Yvette Noel-Schure to post an Instagram message reading: âI am looking back today at the start of The OTRII tour, one year ago. It was a place of joy, unimaginable entertainment from two of the best performers in the world, and a place of love. Every single day on that tour I saw love. Which is why I also want to speak here to the beautiful BeyHive. I know your love runs deep but that love has to be given to every human. It will bring no joy to the person you love so much if you spew hate in her name. We love you.â Basically: we love how much you love Queen B but you guys have to chill.
Nicole Curran says sheâs getting death threats over viral BeyoncĂ© photo https://t.co/xlWADzu9nt pic.twitter.com/KmLibPFcCQ
— Page Six (@PageSix) June 6, 2019
Beyonce & Jay-Z are taking in some #NBAFinals action. đ
(đž: @nba) pic.twitter.com/z5yaC7CIir
— NBA on TNT (@NBAonTNT) June 6, 2019
Photos courtesy of social media.
Insanity. These idiots should put their energies into family separation or something else that matters.
Exactly Beyonce is not a god! the fan worship is scary she really does need to address this because who knows the physical harm that can be done by this crazy fans. smh
She has addressed it more than once.
I never knew that America had Queen’s. What have I been missing? I do not see what the big deal is about Beyonce. She is just another over rated singer…..and hubby too. They both are full of themselves. JS IMO
Completely in agreement with you. It’s frightening how much these fans overreact. I’ve watched that video several times and Beyonce really doesn’t seem to care. Take a video of anyone and I bet you can screen shot moments that look like you’ve got a bitch face going on. Furthermore even IF Beyonce was annoyed at this woman slightly leaning over her, she needs to chill. It’s just a moment and doesn’t mean the woman is intentionally disrespecting her or about to drop her knickers for Jay-Z. like you say, Beyonce is not a God and as much as I’m sure she loves this crazy worship, one of these days it is going to end really badly and that is on her. She has so much power of these people and she needs to use it to calm them the hell down.
I hope all those who made death threats are prosecuted.
Beyonce should defend Curran.
Her failure to do so says a great deal about her, none of it good. The woman GAVE her seats to a basketball game that cost more than most people make in a month. She was getting them drinks. If you don’t want her in your personal space, stop accepting her hospitality and for God’s sake, stop your pathetic minions from threatening her.
If you donât want her in your personal space, stop accepting her hospitality and for Godâs sake, stop your pathetic minions from threatening her.
THIS!!!
Or my god- just say “Hey. I feel a bit claustrophobic when people get too close” and it’s over with. While I do think Bey was genuinely uncomfortable with how close the woman was – I really do not think this woman was doing anything intentionally nefarious. Some people are super touchy feelie. Some people (like me) don’t like when people get into their space. But at some point if I’m in a situation with the other person who I know isn’t doing it to be a prick, I need to advocate for myself.
And she was clearly helping beyonce take her coat off (which is hard to tell from that blurry still)
This is all much ado about nothing-death threats over this are NOT cool.
She can’t really stop people who are determined to act this way. She’s told her fans to tone it down before. Ultimately, it’s up to people to regulate their own behaviors.
“If you donât want her in your personal space, stop accepting her hospitality” I agreed with you except for this. Do I owe someone a kiss because they buy me dinner? Just because someone does me a favor does not mean they should not demonstrate respect, and part of respecting someone is accepting their boundaries. I do not think this woman should be harassed at all. Seriously, at all. However, to me (to me), she was invasive, and the optics were terrible and something to consider.
@original jenns-I agree with you. You donât owe her access to your person because you accepted a gift. Of course if you accept a gift you should be grateful and act accordingly but you donât OWE them because thatâs there prerogative and they shouldnât expect anything in return.
If Beyonce responds directly it will be worse for the next person because the crazies will really goad her. Itâs a crap situation for everyone.
I love how weâre interpreting so much into a video clip. I love how Beyonce is being dragged for not doing what we think she should do about the reaction to something that weâve all decded she did. Some of these comments are just as strange as those of the hive.
@Lightpurple:
Just want to say I agree with you (both comments).
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FFS, a friend helping you take your coat off or leaning across you for two seconds to check your drink order is not âinvasiveâ and not comparable to coerced sex!
FFS, a friend helping you take your coat off or leaning across you for two seconds to check your drink order is not âinvasiveâ and not comparable to coerced sex!
Agree 100%. Her silence says A LOT. I’d even say she bears the responsibility of all these death threats with her silence.
“I’d even say she bears the responsibility of all these death threats with her silence.” Bullshit. She is not responsible for other people’s choices to be scumbags.
This is a serious issue with her fans and she herself needs to come out and tell them to stop – they regularly bully and threaten people. Flowery worded statements like this do not help – she needs to be clear. She needs to tell them that their behaviour is cyber-bullying and it needs to stop. Its only a matter of time before crazy nutjob fan goes too far.
Lady Gaga fans are just as bad and Gaga encourages them (she used to).
Bey didn’t look that annoyed TBH.
@Digital Unicorn I have seen Gaga many, many times call out her monsters for cyber bullying and saying multiple times that bullying goes against everything she, and her Monsters should stand for. Maybe she encouraged them at some point but I can’t ever recall her doing so unless it was a serious issue that needed attention.
I agree, Usedtobe.
Celebs can call for their fans to be respectful, but it doesn’t usually make a difference. Also, media doesn’t report as much on the requests to tone stuff down. I don’t think Gaga ever encourage her fans to harass anyone, and I know for certain that she’s asked them to back off before.
I don’t think that Beyonce needs to do anything! It would be a nice gesture, but not something that speaks to her character if she doesn’t. I highly doubt that the Stans making threats can reach this super rich lady or would even be able to pick her out of a lineup. Report the threats to the proper authorities.
Yeah, I understand Bey doesn’t typically speak out on stuff like this, but a woman who is a semi-public figure getting death threats? She needs to speak out and stop it before someone gets hurt even worse.
The woman clearly invaded Bey’s space and came off drunk. Y’all, Bey IS a Queen, and NOW maybe these little drunken botox bloats will keep some respectful distance. Can’t STAND how improperly sat wifey lady is now the “VICTIM”?? EEeeesh.
She did not “come off as drunk” and she was asking him what he wanted in his drink…that she was going to get them!! She was their hostess for goodness sake! She says she had to lean in because it was very loud and she couldn’t hear his drink request.
I’m not certain why old girl is taking this so seriously except that whitr girls love some fragility.
If I were her, I’d have disabled my comments and posted a pic of me living my best, expensive life on a yacht or a Paris balcony and tagged it #atleastIdidntbiteher
I mean…if people were harassing me and threatening my life, I might take it personally too. Bullying is bullying.
She’s literally getting death threats.
You guys must be new to IG and Twitter.
But admittedly, I always doubt the word of basic Beckys and their threat assessments. They’ve cultivated the fine art of weaponizing their emotions and innocence.
like…none of what you are saying justifies a person being called names or threatened or told to off herself. People who do that should be banned from social media platforms, not given a âmehâ and free rein to keep it up.
“You guys must be new to IG and Twitter”
What is that suppose to mean? That if the threat is on one of those social platforms (or any social media) then it isn’t really a threat?
well, she SAYS she’s getting death threats. Anyone can say they’re getting death threats.
As a WOC: please eff off with your abuser defence under the guise of racism.
No one deserves death threats, regardless of their ethnicity.
This lack of empathy is profoundly disturbing. As Audre Lorde one wrote, “The master’s tools will never dismantle the master’s house.” A primary tool of white and male supremacy is dismissing the subjectivity of all who are different in the real world and rhetorically (textually).
Nice to see you Hyacinth. Thank you.
It’s not okay to threaten, harass, and degrade any woman, even if she’s white. Stop this.
even if she’s white…omg…that’s how insane people are now, that when you’re white you are basically not human.
I mean, you understand sarcasm, yes?
where’s the sarcasm font when you need it?
I would take death threats seriously. There are some unhinged people in the world, as evidenced by people threatening her life over leaning too close to a singer they love. Thatâs insanity, no matter who were talking about.
Nah, as a black woman Iâm gonna have to say: this ainât it.
There is no justification for these psychos sending her death threats over fucking Beyonce.
This is completely crazy. I hope people who threaten her have been reported.
Anyone who is sending death threats over social media should be banned. End of story. Too much crazy in this world already.
YIKES. What an awful comment. I have been on social media since about 2005 and have not once been swarmed nor have I received death threats. Way to blame the victim in this scenario. Jfc. Gross.
If a gay white man was getting abuse or death threats over annoying or getting too close to a public figure, and complaining to others about it or crying about it, would this be said, or would the response be sympathetic? What about a man who benefited from both straight and male privilege, but was Jewish or a POC? Wouldn’t we call out people of either sex telling him to man up as being insensitive and promoting toxic masculinity?
Sometimes I think toxic masculinity gets pushed onto women too in a way, when women are expected to imitate stereotypically masculine emotional behavior by acting as chill and desensitized as possible to toxic, abusive behavior toward themselves or other women in order to not be seen as weak, manipulative, or crazy. White women using white tears or misogyny to get away with racist or otherwise abusive behaviors is absolutely a real thing, and racism being used as a shield to excuse misogyny is real too. It happens with homophobia. It happens with everything. Still, everyone has the right to have an emotional response to emotional abuse and death threats.
BTW, BeyoncĂ© also has the right to be uncomfortable with her invading her personal space if that’s what was going on, and her craziest stans acting like that is absolutely not a reflection on her. I know people who just don’t like her for other reasons are going to weaponize it, though.
#atleastididntbiteher is hilarious.
Nicole had a surprisingly small number of followers prior to yesterday’s events. Now, there are a lot more people who can go to her Instagram and see her pictures of her putting her shoes on her bed and dashboard.
The whole discussion around this has been …. interesting.
@yup so Nicole should be grateful for the death threats bc she has more followers now? That some twisted logic
The woman is successful in her life independent of social media. I think she was doing fine without social media followers before this all happened. How pathetic to measure the worth of a personâs life by their social media followers. Not everyone lives inside that dumb bubble.
Be Best
We ALL have the right to shut out annoying ppl in our personal space. Did this woman NOT know or realize, yeah, ya don’t lean over, knock or touch anyone your’e not intimate friends w, LET ALONE a major celeb. Does it warrant her “death”? No. It’s not BEy’s job to “shut it down”, it’s social media’s. Uh. Enough.
She was asking him what drink he wanted. She said she had to lean in because it was really loud at the game and she couldn’t hear him say what he wanted. She was getting them drinks to be a good hostess. Jeesh!
I think it would be traumatic to receive thousands of death threats after asking a guest what he wanted to drink! And why the “white girl” comment? Jeesh. I thought racist comments weren’t allowed on this site?
Oh thatâs ridiculous. FFS.
The Beyhive is absurd. Just ridiculous. Thereâs no reason for this woman to receive harassment or threats over that tiny clip. And honestly, letting the Beyhive run wild without personally checking their behavior really puts me off Beyonce. She could shut this down with one Instagram or one tweet, but she hasnât.
ITA. Is BeyoncĂ© so fragile that she is injured when someone speaks to her husband or accidently brushes up against her ? It doesn’t matter what that woman was saying, it is loud at a game. All she did was lean over so she could be heard. We all have done this. If B doesn’t shut this behavior down there will come a point where people will avoid her in fear of being attacked by her beshive
yeah. beyonce is the powerful goddess, so much beyond all of us and a delicate flower that will die if jay z speaks to anybody else. if their relationship is so fragile that any woman talking to him is a threat then their marriage is a joke.
Their marriage is a joke. Lots of infidelity on his part.
And honestly, letting the Beyhive run wild without personally checking their behavior really puts me off Beyonce. She could shut this down with one Instagram or one tweet, but she hasnât.
Thank you this is basically all i have been saying.
@Jadedone
Beyoncé authorized her publicist Yvette Noel-Schure to post an Instagram message.
It is not an accident that you glossed over that part of the thread. Before you say it does not count remember that all celebs speak through the media using their publicist. All Beyonce did was go to a game with her husband and get photographed. Like @Lisa said where is the energy for other popstars whose stans are attacking people.
YES.
She NEEDS to say something personally and really crack down on it. She doesn’t need to comment on every supposed scandal or anything. She doesn’t have to put out her position on any supposed feud. But she NEEDS to actively discourage this kind of hideous behavior. Using a publicist isn’t enough. I like Bey, but it’s just insane for her to not do anything, and I’ve thought that for years.
Agreed. This is making me think less of BeyoncĂ©. Itâs ridiculous
@Andrea1
Beyonce has spoken out plenty of times. But at the end of the day you can’t control grown people.
@Erinn
I remember you mentioned in a Taylor Swift post you were a fan of hers. Do you feel the same way about her. Her fans attacked Little Nas for taking the #1 spot including death threats and homophobic slurs. Every pop star has these level of stans that operate on an insane level. To single out the Behive and there actions be a reflection of Beyonce is ridiculous. Do you have that same energy for Swifties, Monsters and Ariana Grande stans.
@Lisa when has B spoken out to stop her fans harrassment of others?
That picture of her touching Beyonce is so cringeworthy. Iâve been in that situation before and I recognize that look on BeyoncĂ©âs face, like âyeah okay, please stop touching me.â Like sheâs completely ignoring how uncomfortable she is. She just seems clueless.
Then why did they accept her invitation to their box? If Beyonce was so put off by this woman, why did she accept her hospitality for god’s sake? The poor lady was hosting them, and just asked what they wanted to drink! She had to lean in because it was loud and they couldn’t hear each other. Jesus!
@Lilly: I can enjoy hanging out with people while still not liking being touched by them. I have a real aversion to most people touching me, but I’m not going to lock myself away from society because of it.
What’s happening to Nicole Curran is wrong, and I tend to think this is more of a misunderstanding/difference in comfort with touching on her part, but neither Beyonce (or anyone else ever) is obligated to allow physical contact simply because someone did them a favor or invited them somewhere.
This could be ended with a simple, direct statement from Beyonce. The fact that she has not done so cheapens her considerably. The woman is getting death threats and Beyonce knows it and does nothing. Also, Beyonce, if you don’t want the woman to act familiar with you and your husband, stop accepting free tickets that retail at more than most people make in a month from her.
Agreed. I hope she makes a statement soon.
Accepting tickets from someone does not give them free reign to touch you. That’s a huge jump in logic
No, but helping you take your coat off is no reason for the woman to get death threats. Asking your husband what he wants in his drink is no reason for the woman to get death threats. You’re at a NBA game. It’s close quarters. I’m constantly getting touched by people I’ve never met before at games. If Beyonce doesn’t like it, she does not need to accept the free tickets, the face value of which were around $5,000 each. She needs to get over herself and she needs to tell her people to knock it off.
Easy. Your statement is true, but thatâs not @Lightpurpleâs âlogic,â as I read it. Not that I can speak for her. The larger logic is, Beyonce and Jay are mega stars, but even they should get that accepting the hospitality of the team owner and his wife obliges them to behave like guests, which Jay appears to be doing in the extremely edited clip (thanks, ESPN, for riling the hive đ). They attend basketball games and sit courtside constantly, and they are aware itâs very close quarters. And LOUD. Is Curran too touchy feely? Her friends who came to her defense certainly implied as much. Bey can take care of herself, if sheâs feeling uncomfortable. She needs to address the hive.
ETA: Sorry, LP, I stepped on your reply.
Agree Chimney. And if the Carters should behave like guests, the Currans should behave like hosts, which means not making your guests feel uncomfortable. I have no clue if B was or was not, but her face and body language seemed to suggest at that moment she was. “I’m just a touchy feely person” is not a defense when people don’t want you to get in their space. Should she be harassed? Not at all. Not at all. And I think the deifying of BeyoncĂ© is gross (of anyone at all, especially celebrities). But I don’t like people saying that the Carters and BeyoncĂ© in particular should put up with being uncomfortable just because someone did them a favor. And I know people here do not mean it this way, but people of color have been modifying their behavior to not make white people uncomfortable/embarrassed for ages. This defense seems to toe that line.
That is an interesting underlying subtext you have going there. What pieces of yourself do you give away in exchange for free stuff?
Separately, many things can be true at the same time. I cannot count the number of times my friends and I have been at events and had to tell white women to keep their hands to themselves and stop touching us only to be told “I’m just a touchy feely person.” as if that dismissal justifies their lack of respect for someone else’s clearly and directly communicated touch boundaries.
Really? What do they do? Do they touch your hair, or body, or face? This is so freaking weird.
I know I don’t like to be touched, and I have had both men and women touch me. It must be maddening for you. Not all men do it, nor all women. It is random and always unexpected and unnerving. There are just people out there who do not respect boundaries or think that the rules do not apply to them. Sometimes they are just ignorant. I am sorry there are caucasian women who have invaded your personal space to touch your hair. It is weird, creepy behavior. Who touches anyone else’s hair??
There are also people out there who do not read social cues well. You can use your words, you know, and express your needs clearly, NICELY and plainly. Then, if they choose to disrespect, you can have them arrested for assault, because once a person has clearly stated their boundaries, that’s what it is, assault. Was Beyonce assaulted. Clearly not. I’m curious, like Darla…what do they do? touch your hair, or body, or face? Because Yup, it’s me…..your comment is very weird.
unhinged comment of the day. white women paw me and my friends everywhere we go. jfc.
If you look at the video, you can see she is totally asking about drinks, and he says soda and she says “lime?”
YES!! I watched the video and you can clearly read her lips asking Jay âwhat do you want?â Then him and Bey start waving at someone so she leans back and waits then leans back in to hear what he says and when he gives his answer she then asks âwith lime?â. Itâs pretty clear.
I was just coming here to say the same thing. You can clearly see her asking for lime. Here is the GIF.
https://twitter.com/ashleyn1cole/status/1136999807124295680
Beyoncé looked annoyed, but I doubt it has anything to do with the lady flirting with Jay-Z. The lady is probably just super annoying. Now the lady is getting death threats. Mess.
If you think the lady is annoying, donât accept her hospitality. Otherwise pull up your big girl panties and act with some class.
BeyoncĂ© didn’t display a lack of class. She happened to have a change of facial expression that was caught on film and that people are trying to interpret. Some of those people happen to be unhinged, abusive individuals responsible for their own chaotic choices.
The lady does not look like she’s flirting with Jay Z at all.
Stan culture is so absurd. And I don’t blame Bey for not being able to control psychotic people taking out their problems on twitterâalso, people forget but Bey, Ariana, Gaga, Bieber, Selena Gomez, and Rihanna have all called their stans out once or twice and it didn’t do any good.
My issue is less with stans, and more with blue check mark journalists, not gossip bloggers, encouraging this BS. There were A LOT jumping on the bandwagonâsome were saying this woman should apologize to Bey and they were ripping her clothes, her appearance, her hair in low key ways. People who do that feed the fire.
Nicole does a lot of philanthropy and is known for being a bit kooky. Anyone who is fairly familiar with the Warriors knows this and people who were there said she was talking to Bey most of the night, too.
Yeah, it’s honestly become so ingrained in society and it’s disgusting.
Especially after all the #metoo shit that’s come out about people who were idolized – why are we still putting celebrities on SUCH a high pedestal?
I read a couple of blurbs that she comes from a very poor family, so to make her way up in the world, and to continue to do philanthropy is very admirable. Her boots and shorts and cape – honestly, my first thought was tacky. But every time I see pics, I want her boots more and more! đ
This is true! I heard about “woman leans over Beyonce to talk to Jay” about 10 times without there being the context of “Golden State Warrior owner” or “hosting them at a basketball game.” Seeing the clip, the interaction was innocent (though possibly annoying to Beyonce). The media hypes it up like this woman pushed Bey out of the way to give Jay-Z a lap dance and then Bey gets blamed for her fans’ overreactions.
“Bey, Ariana, Gaga, Bieber, Selena Gomez, and Rihanna have all called their stans out once or twice and it didnât do any good.” THIS. But unfortunately, this fact will be ignored in favor of another narrative by those who have issues with her to begin with- as we’re seeing here.
The stans who are doing this are so unreasonable though that I 100% believe that some of them would learn how to take advantage of the star their obsessed with drawing attention to the death threats and the harassment. You might see more and more boundary-crossing and attention-seeking displays from them. I wouldn’t put it past a certain group or two to Jacob Wohl the situation either down the road.
Beyonce has asked her fans to stop this threatening behavior several times. Her own fans told her to “mind her creole business”. I think she is a little afraid of them.
Then they arenât fans. Period. Theyâre just mean girls and boys looking for any reason to pounce, which shouldnât be tolerated. We need to get this bully-stan culture off social media before someone gets hurt or harms themselves.
It’s like Cumberbatch’s “tinhat” stans. They basically hate him for marrying someone without their permission. Yet they refuse to leave him alone. It’s a form of erotomania I guess.
Shit, really? “Mind her creole business “? What a bunch of filthy people.
The front row seats at any NBA game put people in pretty tightly together, shoulder to shoulder (which is why they don’t appeal to me, personally). Beyonce would know this, as a regular attendee. She would know there will be some contact. I’m sure she’s fine.
I really hate the way fandoms feel like they have the right to pile on whenever they perceive their idol has been remotely insulted, especially when it’s over something like this – a video that’s a couple of seconds long with no idea what’s being said in the clip or the nature of the relationship between all three individuals. Stan culture is the worst.
If this woman doesn’t know about the beyhive, well she knows now. Girl, just disable your comments for a while and continue on.
Ridiculous. Death threats because BeyoncĂ© looked annoyed. The Hive needs to grow up. BeyoncĂ© doesnât need them to fight her mythical battles.
Yes, she got in her personal space for 2 seconds at a crowded venue. Is this death threat worthy? Of course not. They may be the best seats but they are small and right up against each other. She couldn’t stand on the court to talk to Jay, the clip starts with him talking to her so whether about drinks or whatever, it was a conversation. I get annoyed when people lean over me too, but I wouldn’t want them getting death threats, especially if it was over if he wanted a lime in his drink.
I agree re the seat size – the “bump” to me looked more like Beyonce adjusting herself in the seat. And the seats do seem like they’re on top of each other.
I actually had a chance to sit courtside once and the seats are small, like you have no choice but to bump shoulders with your neighbors small
Honesty, this will blow over faster the less everyone stops talking about it. We’ve seen this before, not just with the Beyhive but with other Stan and Shipping culture.
Disable the comments until they get bored and carry on.
And if you’re really concerned about cyberbullying, perhaps a post redirecting attention to an organization that fights for victims of cyberbullying who can’t comfort themselves with an impromptu vacay while the heat is on.
Except “Be Best” of course.
This is why so many fandoms suck. People take on an obsessive level of entitlement and do shit like this. When it has devolved to a level where people are lobbing death threats, BeyoncĂ© needs to come out if her cone of mystery and exclusivity and tell people to stop instead of letting her publicist post a milquetoast blurb about how we should all love each other. Pretty sure sheâd still have plenty of fans if she told people to quit acting like psychos over everything.
Lol of course Bey gets her publicist to say something. Her Stans went after someone richer than Bey and has power over her. Piss off the owners wife? No more court side tickets for you.
This is so foolish. What power does Nicole have over them? She said, herself, that she’s invited them several times in the past to come to games and they finally accepted. What power could she possibly have? They are a couple who are power players in industries she has nothing to do with. She barely registers in her own husband’s industry. The only reason most people know about her today is because of this incident.
This will blow over soon and she’ll have a few more Instagram followers to looks at her pictures of her shoes and vacations.
Thatâs true to a point, but remember that Jay-Z is a part owner of the Nets. Theyâre both NBA wives-of-owners and so theyâve got equal status in NBA-land and can pretty much get courtside seats anywhere they want.
The Behive and Swiftyâs are two toxic fanbases who spend too much energy fighting for the *perceived* honor of two super rich and privileged artists. They are so embarrassing.
Honestly, it didn’t help matters that every gossip site — including this one, my favorite — reported on this like it was actual news and then had to walk it back with some form of “oops, how sad and terrible this happened!” OF COURSE this happened.
This! The reaction to this was ridiculous, and the fact that it was reported everywhere made it a billion times worse. People here were arguing over it be if a racist interaction and everything. Didn’t the lady say she was literally asking jay z if he wanted a drink but it was loud and she had to lean to hear him? I would probably have the same look if someone leaned over me like that in such close quarters, even if it was my own mom. People need to calm down
@Bryn:
Yes, thank you for pointing that out.
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Thank you for stating the very obvious at the risk of getting blocked. it was reported here like it was a fact Beyonce was legit upset by the woman when in actuality we all know nothing because we weren’t part of the conversation.
Oh btw, biden reversed position on Hyde amendment. I still don’t see myself voting for him unless he’s the last Democrat standing.
Ugh, of course he did. Because the people around him convinced him that he needs women’s votes, because women’s rights are the new hot topic. Unless he’s the only one who can win against Trump, NEXT.
Crazy, overblown situation! Nicole was invading her personal space. Beyonce didnât like it. Most minor things can be settled with a few kind words, and in an ideal world either Beyonce would have politely explained her discomfort, OR Nicole would have been self-aware enough to pick up her discomfort cues.
There is no reason at all for the hiveâs reaction. Death threats?! Come on!
This 100 percent!
Even that feels like an overblown take on events. Nicole leant forward for a second to confirm their drink orders, and people are going crazy analysing Beyonce’s facial expression in one split second.
We donât even know if Beyonce was annoyed with the woman! Thatâs the whole point. We werenât there, we werenât privy to their conversations, we know nothing about their relationship. Whatâs sad is that grown folks who should have better things to do have created an entire narrative in their head about what was happening based on a clip that lasted a few seconds. And itâs disheartening to see so many people being so blasĂ© about someone receiving death threats from lunatic fans. Especially since so many are so quick to want to âcancelâ other people over the most random stuff.
Beyonce is Beyonce. Did it ever occur to anyone that if Beyonce or Jay had an issue with their hostess, that they are more than capable of speaking to her about it? These arenât children who need protecting or people without power who need someone to stand up for them. Lawd.
Exactly. I think the issue some of these lunatic fans have is the fact Nicole treated Bey and Jay like “normal” people. She didn’t kiss their feet. How dare she lean in to hear Jay speak ??!! Did Jay get death threats when we found out he cheated on Queen Bey?
Thereâs something to be said if she has to come out every single time the fandom goes crazy. Sheâs never lived that reactive life, the fandom never actually does anything to anyone ever. If she goes out there and asked them to stop, she would be insinuating she has some type of control and responsibility over them. (Hello lawsuits!)
Quick note to the people saying that if she was annoying or too touchy that she shouldnât accept her hospitality. Accepting someoneâs offer doesnât mean they get to be rude, theyâre allowed to touch you or make you uncomfortable in anyway. This isnât charity, itâs a transfer of value. They wanted to be seen next to and talking to Bey and Jay. Bey and Jay wanted the tickets. Nothing more is owed.
That’s some pretty cycnical stuff you’ve got there.
Curran offered her guest a drink and because it was very loud in the arena, she had to lean over his wife in order to hear what he wanted. Yes, she’s a terrible person.
My two cents? Who wears such ridiculous outfits to a basketball gameđ
Ikr?! Her boots are ridiculous. I hate when women wear heels to a basketball game. One, the floor is always dirty and slick w spilled drinks and you could fall. And 2, imo, it looks ridiculous. Way overdressed
Lol ‘you could fall’ is a pretty weak reason
JFC this is not ok. Have these people never been in a situation like that and had to lean over to hear what someone is saying? I’m hearing impaired and I can’t function in loud spaces unless I get my ear and hearing aids right up next to someone’s mouth. Even people who aren’t deaf struggle to carry on conversations in this setting.
I can’t understand why a group of unhinged Beyonce fans think this is acceptable behavior. Death threats? What the actual f&$” y’all? People have lost their minds. And if Beyonce doesn’t publicly tell her crazy stans to back off then she’s a terrible human being.
She’s already done it before. Not personally taking responsibility for creepy stranger’s behavior every time they choose to act this way doesn’t make her the terrible human being.
Twitter needs to shut down the account of anyone who threatens violence. Full stop.
Unfortunately a lot fandoms now a day are so toxic
It speaks volumes about Beyonce that she never asks her Beyhive to get it under control and be nice to people. That fandom is insane and she feeds right into it.
False.
They Beyhive should not be threatening her. That’s completely unacceptable.
But I have to ask. Why is Curran being let off the hook by so many commenters for rubbing BeyoncĂ©’s shoulders and playing with her hair when that it’s completely unacceptable in any other context? Why should BeyoncĂ© have to put up with that shit? Ask yourselves how you’d react if it was a guy doing the shoulder rubbing. Curran shouldn’t be given a pass for that.
I don’t think anyone is saying Beyonce has to put up with anything. Is it that impossible to believe that Beyonce might be okay with the behavior? Beyonce and Jay have been guests of this woman numerous times. Beyonce is a grown ass woman. If she has an issue with how she is being treated by someone who she has a relationship with, she is more than capable of addressing that herself. The general public knows nothing about Beyonce or her relationship with the owner’s wife – it’s not the public’s job to police the woman’s behavior or her interactions with Beyonce.
BeyoncĂ© is a grown woman. If someone is doing something that she doesn’t like then she needs to speak up. Some people are overly affectionate and some people are touchy feely. You don’t want to be touched then say so.
We donât know itâs unacceptable to BeyoncĂ©. This isnât a random stranger, itâs a woman she knows and is friendly with. We donât know that she had any problem with Curran touching her.
Beyoncé awkwardly slid her coat down to her waist like a minute after Curran was seen touching it. It was obviously bugging her for some reason (probably her hair was getting caught up in all the little metal holes) and Curran was trying to help. For all we know Beyoncé asked her to.
They are friends and Beyonce obviously is fine with it. Sheâs clearly capable of shutting down any situation she doesnât like, so if her friends are touchy feely with her itâs obvious itâs because thatâs the kind of relationship they have.
Itâs very weird that you think touching a friend is something a person needs to be censured for.
Beyonce doesnât need you to police her friendships and police how she chooses to interact with her friends. Itâs weird and intrusive for stans to do that.
Youâre all saying BeyoncĂ© should speak out and tell the Hive to back off but the whole point is that BeyoncĂ© doesnât speak anymore. If she makes a statement about this, sheâll be expected to make a statement about the next furore and the next after that.
Yes, nobody should try to make her responsible for anything, she’s only around to sell music.
It looks to me like BeyoncĂ© is annoyed by Jay Z’s drink order. Am I the only one who thinks her face changes when she hears Jay Z order a vodka?
Um, YES! I was scrolling to see if anyone else saw this. Her face like drops. Like she’s disappointed in him but it’s a public place and there is a kind stranger beside them and she can’t go off.
Exactly this. As someone who has been annoyed by partners drink orders in the past (they drank too much, I wasn’t policing) I know this face and I know it well.
The whole shit show is ridiculous
Everyone is so caught up in the analysis of quick clips that we forget how humans react in normal situations. When I see someone and smile, I don’t hold my dopey smile forever. Beyonce’s face was just returning to normal.
Yeah, it’s mindblowing to me how people can make so many assumptions from a 10 second video. But what’s more mindblowing is these people feel entitled to harrass the woman in the video – and other people – over these assumptions they’ve made.
That’s what I assumed was happening. She was smiling at someone, then returned to a neutral face.
can’t stand beyonce and her cult like fanbase. this is no surprise.
Seems like the biggest issue is that Beyonce was not worshipped like the goddess she supposedly is. A woman dared to lean over her in a very specific loud sports situation. But, since Beyonce is apparently God we all are supposed to worship the air she breathes (mind you, she is a person who has put out some good music videos…pretty sure she didnât publish anything on cancer cures). I liked what a poster said above…Jay-Z cheated on her, and she even publicly acknowledged it…yet the Beyhive does not go after him for being such a dick to the most perfect unicorn? Where is the Beyhive over that injustice?
Yes. Exactly this. And it’s exactly why she didn’t address the death threats. She LOVES IT! She loves having thousands of stupid minions. And the statement from the publicist did NOT address the subject. It was bullshit. Be on notice, all “Beckies”. Do not every host or try to be hospitable to them. It will lead to death threats.
“The beautiful beyhive… I know your run loves deep”. Omg please. Vomit. There is nothing beautiful or loving about rabid, toxic fans. Celebrity obsession is crazy, unhealthy and has gotten way out of control. But celebs still need to pander to them, they cannot bite the hand that feeds them. Gross on so many levels.
Still not grosser than shaming women for having babies out of wedlock in their early 20’s though. Just sayin. đ
Stan culture is incredibly toxic and insane right now. My partner is a minor celebrity and even though his fanbase his tiny he still has fans who turn up to everything he does, and relentlessly hate on me. They create fake social media accounts to try to get access to my Facebook. One woman was even pretending to be dating my boyfriend via selfies she’d accosted him into taking on premier red carpets. And I’m no one, I’m a completely ordinary person who’s not in the public eye at all.
It’s considered completely normal and acceptable in stan-circles nowadays to create fake SM accounts to cyberstalk people, or steal and share private photos, or set up hateblogs, or buy property records or children’s birth certificates, or use SM to harass people. Fandom is binary: us vs them, where “us” is fans and the object of their affection, and “them” are the dehumanised Other representing anyone perceived as any kind of threat to their adulation.
I completely agree. Regardless of the celebrity it’s a batsh-t behavior that I can’t believe is somewhat “accepted” under the guise of Stan culture? It’s ridiculous. I would love for someone to take a deep dive at some of the people behind those accounts.
I bet she will never invade or invalidate a Black womanâs space again. The Beyhive attack because the lack of courtesy and the complete obliviousness to this lack of courtesy. The obliviousness is demonstrated by the photo of her AGAIN disrespecting her space and her body. Iâm not mad at the Beyhive. Itâs tough love but hopefully she learned an important lesson. Also, at the end of the day Beyonce knows the optics. If she would have said something, the white Woman would have cried and Bey would have been the aggressor and the monster.
Jeez. This isnât a case of some strange random woman just coming to Bey. This is a woman who Beyonce is acquainted with. Itâs not up to BeyoncĂ©âs fans to police every interaction that Beyonce has.
Acquaintance or not, she was disrespectful. As someone who has had people lean over me to talk to others as if I were invisible or didnât exist, itâs annoying. A person that respects your space wouldnât ignore your person. Not only that but the picture of her touching BeyoncĂ©âs hair?! Too much. This wasnât innocent bonding this was assertion of dominance by a ww to a WOC
What an incredulous thing to say: sheâs clearly being a hostess and asking Jayâs drink option. What else is she supposed to do on court side seats in a loud arena? I had initially thought she was indeed invading BeyoncĂ© space and being clueless. But itâs clear this entire thing was overblown and the lady who invited them was being gracious, and making the best out of their situation.
She wasnât ignoring her, she was getting a drink order from Jay Z, having already asked BeyoncĂ© what she wanted.
How was she supposed to involve Beyoncé in that? Ask her if she agrees Jay Z wants lime in his vodka soda after he says he does?
Ask his wife how heâd like his drink… theyâve been married for 10 years đ€·đœââïž
Nicole isnât white and she did absolutely nothing wrong.
Itâs highly problematic that you feel the need to police how WoC interact in their relationships with each other.
Beyhive/Beyonce aside, there is a seriously dark aspect to “Stan” culture that I wish an investigative reporter would look into. Why are death threats and cyberbullying and attacks acceptable under the umbrella of Stan culture? It’s sad and it makes me sad that people choose to engage in this way.
This article in the Medium focuses on Stan culture mainly in relation to Ariana Grande but still has valuable analysis on it:
https://medium.com/@hanxine/why-the-normalization-of-stan-culture-is-unhealthy-b37fb8024346
Dont know if the link will work since I posted it on mobile but I hope it’s as interesting to you as it is to me!
This is beyond BeyoncĂ©âs control. Twitter needs to shut down the account of anyone who threatens death or violence to another human being. Full stop.
Did you see some of the threats Desus and Mero got from the Taylor Swift fans? Crazy… that we werenât talking about this then…
This is silly, she leaned over her, sure a little rude, but things happen. I would like to see other pictures, I bet they were talking and laughing together. I mean she did get them free tickets and drinks… I doubt there was some horrible beef between them.
I’m so glad that I’m not famous, as I sometimes look annoyed in public.
First and foremost, people are crazy! Poor lady (the owners wife). Totally understand it was just a snapshot in time, but I will admit, i think it is generally poor taste to lean over someone to talk to their partner (unless youâre good friends).
I hope Bey at least reached out privately to Nicole.
Beyonce did not look annoyed, just disengaged and spaced out. When she’s not performing she has this look like the lights are not on upstairs..
I just want to know who Becky with the Good Hair is. Did we ever officially figure out who that was?
An upskirt shot while wearing Dr. Teeth hooker boots… not sure Iâd publish that even if it was a murder alibi.
Her PUBLICISTâS response was lukewarm at best. Does she think her own kids will be immune to cyber bullying? No one is, and when it does happen, maybe then sheâll finally understand what her silence has forced others to tolerate, all in the name of her fâing image. SMDH
Have no not seen the comments on social media about Blue Ivy? No?
It will still keep happening even if she tells her stans to tone it down again. And yeah, Blue Ivy is already a target for cyberbullying. It’ll likely only get worse as she grows up and becomes more of her own person.
The stan culture is bizarre. These people ride or die for a total stranger who only wants their money. Spears, Bieber, Minaj and Bey have some of the most toxic fans. The strange thing is, 3 of those entertainers are well into their 30’s. You’d think at that point their fan base would be more mature.
Bey actually snarled in that video! Is she afraid that her handsome hubby is going to hump that married lady as well?
it’s not just BeyoncĂ© fans tbh. I once tweeted that people who believe, that Harry and Louis from One Direction are dating, are deluded and I was getting death threats for a week. All fans turn into mentals if you dare to say or do anything they don’t like.
What BeyoncĂ© fans did is awfully but at same time everyone is acting like BeyoncĂ© is the only pop stars in the world who has a outcontrol fandom. Lady Gaga fans are notorious for attacking others on her behalf remember when they fat shamed Adele and lady Gaga only respond when legit news were reporting the story or when the time the star is born was released at the same time as venom and her fans created fake profiles to trash venom so more people will go see the star is born . No one says a thing about Taylor swift or Ariana grande or Camilla cabello fan base their fan base is just as toxic as BeyoncĂ© fans Camilla fans racially cyber bully Normani they post a picture of Normani being lynch as a Slave called her monkey and when she post a picture of a book one of Camilla fan tweet I didn’t know that monkey could read . Honestly to me a lot of people are going over board with their attack on BeyoncĂ© I do believe it has to do with the fact that she isn’t well liked around every time their a story about her people get all bend out of shape and trip over themselves to be the first one to speak negatively about BeyoncĂ© . BeyoncĂ© can’t control her fanbased anymore then Ariana grande Taylor swift or lady Gaga can I’ve never seen anyone on here blamed others pop stars or celebrities for their fans actions why is BeyoncĂ© being treated any differently why is BeyoncĂ© being forced to by some people on here to take responsibility for what her fans do but at the same time I don’t see anyone saying that Taylor or lady Gaga or Ariana grande should take responsibility for their fans actions . To me it’s a double standard BeyoncĂ© isn’t well liked by some people on her she being made to be scapegoat because people on here have a problem with BeyoncĂ© .
WHAT IS WRONG WITH OUR WORLD? This is insane.
wtf were both these women wearing to a ball game. A Ball Game! One is decked out all in gold the other in a vautier mini dress that must have hitched up to the waist when she sat down. to a Ball Game. But the guys get away with basic looks. I know it was a big ball game but sometimes you should just laugh at the 1% & their crazy sh#.t.