Here are some photos of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex arriving at Misha Nonoo’s wedding in Rome on Friday evening. The wedding was held at Villa Aurelia and from the looks of everything, this whole extravaganza cost an absolute fortune. Misha invited all of her A-list friends and all of the royals she knows: the York princesses were there, as were Karlie Kloss (and Joshua Kushner), James Corden, Katy Perry, Orlando Bloom and… Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner. What’s weird to me is that the British papers seem to be obsessed with the plane issue (Meghan and Harry took a commercial flight, sources confirm) and the cost of the Sussexes’ hotel suit and the look of Meghan’s dress… and no one is making a big deal out of the fact that Ivanka Trump and the Duchess of Sussex went to the same wedding. It’s mind-blowing.
As for the stuff the papers are obsessed with, Meghan’s dress is Valentino and it’s black and expensive. I don’t care that it’s black – I think it’s fine to wear black to a very fancy black-tie evening wedding. If the wedding was in the morning (and in England), then maybe black would be inappropriate. I also don’t care that it’s expensive! Well, I care that Meghan probably spent thousands of dollars on this dress and from what I can see, it’s an ugly, puffy mess. Here’s a look at the dress as sold:
Meghan Markle sparkles in a $13K Valentino gown at Misha Nonoo’s wedding https://t.co/6h4SvlNsWV pic.twitter.com/ar52A26XXG
— Page Six (@PageSix) September 21, 2019
It’s just not a cute dress, right? It’s too… Hollywood-madam or something. The Daily Mail has a big article about how Meghan and Harry are probably staying in a “£1,200-a-night luxury hotel,” because HOW DARE THEY, you know, have a nice couple of nights in a nice hotel suite at the Hotel Vilon. The DM isn’t even sure that the Sussexes are really staying in the fanciest suite either – and considering that Ivanka Trump is there, I’d hold off on blaming Meghan and Harry for all of the heavy security everywhere around the hotel too. Speaking of… all of this, the Daily Mail’s Eden Confidential column had an interesting/terrible story about what the Queen thinks of all of this Sussex fanciness:
Acerbic author David Starkey is surprisingly sweet on the Duchess of Sussex. The television presenter, who once enjoyed lunch with the Queen, says Meghan has won over the monarch.
‘The Queen likes Meghan,’ he tells me at the Soho launch party for fellow historian Dan Jones’s book, Crusaders. ‘The Queen immediately made her and Harry ambassadors for the Commonwealth, which is the only thing that the Queen really cares about.’
However, Starkey does warn the American former actress: ‘The problem is she has brought too much Hollywood entitlement with her. But her hypocrisy is just the same as any other member of the Hollywood elite: they all proclaim their eco-sensitivity while flying their private jets. But she gets skewered — they, on the whole, don’t. She is the “woke” member of the family.’
The historian also highlighted how Meghan is a breath of fresh air into the monarchy. He said: ‘She’s a royal modernisation in herself because of her mixed race, because of being an American, her absence of any kind of obvious religion, being an actress, all of this would have been unthinkable 20 years ago. Meghan is behaving like a celebrity, but Diana behaved like celebrity. I always said that Diana was a strange phenomenon, she was the daughter of an English earl, but she behaved as though she’d been born in California, which I think may very well be one of the things that attracted Harry to Meghan. He’s married his mother! Lots of insecure boys marry their mothers. Her influence over her husband, one can see he’s very much in his wife’s pocket, so Meghan is playing the dominant wife role very well.’
That’s a lot to unpack, so let’s get into it. One, it’s possible Harry did marry Meghan because he saw something in her that reminded him of Diana. Meghan has a similar energy, similar emotional intelligence (Harry has Diana’s E.Q. too) and similar work ethic and happiness to “perform” those public duties. I don’t think that makes Harry insecure. Certainly not any more or less insecure than William, who has a borderline creepy relationship with his mother-in-law. As for whether the Queen hates Meghan’s “Hollywood entitlement”… I mean, this from a woman who owns a gold piano and multiple castles. The thing is, I’ve never understood why the Queen and her fussy old courtiers have a problem with Meghan’s star power. I’ve said this before, but here we go again: it’s like all of those old bitties are distraught at the idea of someone bringing a touch of glamour to an outdated, archaic and out-of-touch institution. They took issue when Diana brought glamour to the monarchy too.
Prince Harry, The Duke Sussex and Meghan, The Duchess of Sussex, arrive to attend the wedding of fashion designer Misha Nonoo at Villa Aurelia in Rome, Italy
📸 @Reuters https://t.co/KHxF3BjUUh pic.twitter.com/qc9GSj3fTk— Derek Momodu (@DelMody) September 20, 2019
Photos courtesy of Backgrid.
Love the dress.
Does anyone have an idea how buying a dress like that works when you are a royal? As in – how much can you actually spend without being criticized. I know she has money, but she doesn’t work anymore. Prince Harry has money but if I understand correctly, a lot of their clothes is comped by Charles, because they are working royals. So, do you still have a budget if your clothes is comped? It would be awkward to break your father in law’s bank :))
The taxpayers pay for all of their garments (Charles, Camilla, Kate, Harry, Meghan, etc) indirectly through the Duchy. Charles doesn’t provide the exact breakdown of the Duchy costs any longer due to public outrage a decade or so ago, but we pay for all their garments ( including accessories) through the deliberately convoluted Duchy operations structure. I believe, but I may be wrong, that Charles lumps their costs under ‘household’ now.
You think her money in sleeping in a bank account? Have you ever heard of wealth preservation vs growth ? Do you understand how royalties work?
I could ask so many questions but you obviously don’t understand how those things work otherwise your comment above wouldn’t have typed this comment to begin with.
It is Meghan who is going to break Charles’ bank account?……that’s laughable at best
The cost of the dress would be covered by less than one day’s interest on the Duke’s investments. Money makes money which is part of the reason why the rich get richer.
Also the Public is not paying for their clothes as Charles money comes from funds raised by the Duchy. So money from selling, renting, earnings, interest etc. so they are raising money and using the money they have raised…NOT coming to the public and asking for money for clothes and shoes. So much misinformation.
@E
“Monstrosity “ is a bit of a harsh word don’t you think? It is an expensive dress and I won’t deny that but how do you know she didn’t pay for it herself? Or Harry?
@VS, you sound very entitled. I’ve never had an opportunity to invest and don’t know what it’s like to live and deal with that kind of money.
£9k of taxpayers money. Damn, Prince Charles, you need to tell your kids to cut back. Before people pile on: as someone said up thread it’s paid via Charles and the Duchy, but that belongs to the taxpayer too.
@Rhys — you sound envious!!! Envying Meghan or insulting her or anyone who has what you don’t have is NEVER going to give you their life.
Meghan worked really hard to achieve what she did in her life……..suddenly Royals having an expensive lifestyle is bothering the racists because a WOC is now enjoying it! with her net worth, which is most likely invested, she can afford a few Valentino and Givenchy clothes……….a lot of people can otherwise those companies wouldn’t exist
@VS when did Rhys insult Meghan?
How do you k ow the Duchy is paying for Meghan’s clothes for private events? It might be true that they pay for clothes for public events but Meghan has her own money as does Harry vianhis inheritance from Diana so I think this is a rather large assumption re the wedding outfit
@vs – no need to be so rude. Rhys was asking a question. Come on now – everyone learns from this site. Don’t attack someone who is interested in learning. You got upset below when you felt someone attacked you – but you just did it above to Rhys.
Isn’t it common knowledge that Charles/BRF only pay for clothes (and travel expenses) used for “official” purposes (“work” and tours, etc). When royals are at private events/private time, they pay their own way. So the money for both Meghan and Harry’s outfits would have come from either Meghan or Harry’s bank accounts, NOT Charles.
Is there some hard evidence that things are now done differently?
Meghan has her own money; she can afford her own clothes. It’s not as though she was living paycheck to paycheck as a working American actress. I’m sure she also has current business making ventures. It’s not as though she would have to shop at Target for ball gowns. My hunch has always been that she brought her own personal haul of designer pieces with her to UK. However, she is also the Duchess of Sussex. She has the right to a clothing allowance just as much as anyone else in the family. No one questions William’s suits as much as Meghan’s dresses. Then again, women are judged more harshly than men on their fashion sense, recyling looks, staying within budget, and staying current on the latest classic styles. While I do think there should be reasonable limits on their clothing allowances, I also think that the amount should be realistic and allow them to meet public expectations.
@Redgrl — I don’t know where you saw me getting upset; a disagreement with a statement is not a proof that someone in upset
@Your Cousin Vinny — This statement from Rhys was pretty ignorant
“how much can you actually spend without being criticized. I know she has money, but she doesn’t work anymore”.
Of course Meghan doesn’t work anymore; what did she think people who have earned some money do with it when they don’t work anymore? did she think Meghan’s royalties from SUITS will just disappear?
There are questions you asked when you want to learn vs back handed comments
@Rhys
I always wonder the same thing. What is an acceptable number to the public if they are paying for the dress? How many times should a piece be worn? I am curious to know how these situations are discussed as well. It is all a part of the PR game.
@VS I read it as a genuine question and it seems other commenters felt the same. Either way, there is a difference between ignorance (which Rhys freely owned up to) and insults.
@Your Cousin Vinny ——thx for the clarification; I didn’t take it as a genuine question; my bad if it was
The money thing is interesting, and not quite sure why anyone on here is being mean about people not knowing how it’s done. It’s not like anyone on here is giving a good explanation. I didn’t think the royals were allowed to be political, and sorry any ownership in companies i.e. stocks has a political bent to it. I can’t see them being allowed to do that. In the US this is why our representatives are supposed to divest, except Trump who just bucks it all in weird ways. Now you could just make bank interest, which is minimal, but again which bank cause that kind of shows a bit of a partiality too, but I guess they have to have that at least and what are the rules. I know the Duchy of Cornwall account gives them money but how is that dispersed and who decides. I have always heard it is Charles with his kids, but what happens when he is king? It’s interesting.
About Meghan’s dress when you don’t have to pay for other things like living expenses, clothes become an expense you can splurge on. I wouldn’t be surprised if she uses a lot of her own money on that, especially when it is personal like this. I also wish we got a good front picture of the dress on her, cause I kind of agree with Kaiser I don’t think I like it, but can’t really tell. She seems to like the sheer black material thing, as this is the second dress like this, but this dress does have puffy dress syndrome going on. Oh well.
All I know is, Meghan’s outfit is the ONLY one they cited the cost of. Not Bea’s. Not Eugenie’s. Not even Daughter-Wife. ONLY Meghan. Hmmm… I wonder why that could be… I wonder…. do YOU know?? (yes, sarcasm).
Personally, I think that is a LOT of money for that dress (which I don’t really like), but I will defend her right to buy/wear what she wants with her own money, esp. on her “personal” time. This was a personal expense, and I will NOT (nor should ANYONE) criticize her for “spending taxpayer money” unless I see it billed to the taxpayer. She and Harry (and EVERY Royal) will ALWAYS have taxpayer security assigned, that’s SOP, but these personal trips are paid for by themselves.
Makeup, hair, jewelry looked beautiful. They both looked happy 😊
I personally love the dress but I am sucker for Valentino so my opinion here is very biased……..VG is one of my all time favorite designers
Of course only Meghan’s outfit would have a cost attached; otherwise how would those, who have a head in which Meghan lives rent free, get offended and rant?
The taxpayer most likely paid for this monstrosity of an outfit via the Duchy, as Charles and his accountants now cleverly disguise their garments spend ( see my comment above) by lumping their costs under other ‘household’ categories.
@E,
This wedding is a private function; it is not an official engagement. It would be nice if you provided reliable references that show PC’s or duchy funds are also used to purchase clothing for private and personal functions for any of the married-in royals, to include Katie or Sophie. It might change the impression that you’d rather not give the Duchess of Sussex the benefit of the doubt for having purchased the gown with her own or Harry’s personal funds. Also, you faux concern for “the taxpayer” is an old and worn-out anti-Meghan rallying cry here, so don’t waste your time the next time you want to single out the DoS for spending taxpayer money like the rest of the royals do.
@Olenna ———- Thank you! the faux-concern of the taxpayer money when Meghan is concerned, yet nothing is ever said about the others……..the fact that some of those people don’t protest in front of BP for PA tells you anything you need to know about them
@VS,
More than once, I’ve asked some of these posers if they’ve even bothered to complain about royal expenditures to their local and national legislators. I get “crickets” from them. They know damn well their only motivation for complaining (on behalf of the taxpayers) is their hate and/or envy of the Duchess of Sussex.
I agree with olenna and Sarah that we don’t know if the Duchy pays for their private wear. So anyone insisting otherwise is pure gossip. I can imagine it would pay for their standard work wear but again, it’s all speculation as to which pieces.
I assume this dress is paid for out of Meghan’s personal money since this is a private event on their own time. The interest from her bank account or a royalty check from Suits (or anything she’s been in ) more than covers the cost. It is a very expensive dress but would surprised if she paid retail price. She just made Valentino and whoever is selling that dress a lot of money. Everyone is obsessed with what she’s “ costing the tax payer” . Not the whole slew of royals, every one of Elizabeth’s creaky cousins, and all their offspring back in England ( none of whom seem to have real jobs), but she’s the budget buster? FOH.
Even if the taxpayers pay for this and all the royal women’s clothes I don’t think you’d know, as my guess is Charles just gives them a sum of money for “expenses” and that’s how it’s listed living expenses. Capital expenses are kind of different and that’s why we heard more detail about all the renovations various royalty has had done. They are still filthy rich without the Duchy money. If you don’t like it and you are British try to vote out the payments. They’ll still be rich, and it would be interesting to see how that works. Honestly, that seems like a better idea than Brexit, and somehow that passed. I’m sure it’s more complicated than what I stated, but there has to be a way monarchs go away all the time in other countries.
Second, the reason for the info and price on Meghan’s dress as opposed to the others is she’s more famous for one, especially than the York girls. Second they always do this with both her and Kate on the DM site. Now as far as Ivanka well I think people don’t like her as much now either, plus she just looks horrible with the new hairdo and the dress yuck!!!
@E ………get MAD!!! and if that’s enough, I hope Meghan provides you with more reasons to go crazy…….LOL
You are trying to misinformed people; why don’t you join your ilks at the DM or Sun?
I like it too. And post-baby it looks comfortable as well.
Nagini’s dress is, on the other hand, awful. All that beige and the ugly belt.
Not sure it was necessary to call William’s relationship with Carol creepy. Clearly he’s found a port in the storm there, but after losing his mother, why begrudge him that?
…because it’s not a healthy relationship? When Carole constantly tells him what he wants to hear, when she does nothing but praise him for his every action, when she gets her hands dirty for him, and worst of all puts him BEFORE her own daughter and firstborn, it’s not a good-for-the-kingdom, healthy mom/child relationship. Carole is just another person who will bend over backwards to give big baby Willy what he wants.
@ladyD you know all of that for a fact? Please do share, sounds like some good tea!
Leaving politics aide, I actually think Ivanka’s dress isn’t that bad. The hairstyle really suits her; the only problem with the dress is that it seems too heavy; too much wrapping at the bottom of her dress making her looks wider than she is.
I like the dress. I thought she looked really good in it and it had that Hollywood glamour to it. She knew it would be photographed and the press would be all over it, so why not give them a show. Saw the runway video and it’s very sheer but looked beautiful and not puffy or overwhelming. Looks like Meghan’s has a darker lining, but a great look for the occasion. Harry looked really happy.
@L4frimaire – I’d like to see the dress in movement – i’ll bet it’s got a floaty ethereal quality that doesn’t translate well in still photos.
Nagini’s dress, on the other hand, is just hideous (as is she, inside and out).
What I would really love to see is Meghan in the Valentino worn by Rose Hanbury Rocksavage Cholmondeley at the 2016 EACH fund raiser held at Houghton Hall.
I think Meghan would look wonderful in that particular Valentino dress.
It reminds me of one of Diana’s fussier dresses from back in the day, except she didn’t where a lot of black (if any) when married.
OK, just googled because I had to know: I was thinking of a couple of Diana’s pink Zandra Rhodes gowns. She wore a lot of Zandra Rhodes.
Karlie wore black as well…
Meghan looked stunning.
Personally Iove the dress.
It looks stylish, comfy, and forgiving.
yes me too! I mean we’d have to see her in it, but based on the picture, I really like it!
Yeah, I wish we could see the whole dress on Meg. Obviously the Sussexes didn’t make a splashy, “look at me!!” arrival like Complicit Ken and Barbie.
I’m not crazy about the dress but I don’t hate it. I also don’t think black is as flattering on Meghan as other colors. As for wearing black to a wedding…..in my part of Canada it wouldn’t be a big deal except in maybe a remote, rural area.
Honestly I see no comparison to Meghan and Diana.
Both are totally different people with the only thing in common being they both had/have personally.
Co-sign. Diana was an emotional wreck who played oneupmanship games. Their philanthropy is just about all they had in common.
Right? They are polar opposites.
Also, the dresses I have seen so far are all hideous.
To be fair, Harry was very young when Diana died. He’s heard all about his mother’s different sides, but he may only remember a woman who was a warm devoted mother and more vivacious than any other woman in his orbit. Thus, it’s certainly possible that Meghan resembles his memories of Diana. Having said that, it’s hardly unique to the RF that people want to attribute the traits of a parent to a new spouse, a tradition I think is a bit gross.
@bettyrose ——— “it’s hardly unique to the RF that people want to attribute the traits of a parent to a new spouse, a tradition I think is a bit gross ” I wish we had a LIKE button here………indeed, I don’t know why people try to do it; I just don’t get it, I admit.
Kate had to suffer from the same crap. Meghan and Diana might be similar from a humanitarian standpoint but many women are like that…….anyway, a discussion for another day
Have to agree with Kaiser-ugly, ugly dress. Although not on the same level of hideousness as that mess ivanka’s sporting.
And good for Meghan and Harry for skipping that luncheon that included the Deplorables ivanka, jared and ivanka’s bestie and Putin’s gf Wendi Deng Murdoch.
Ivanka is dressed as the Mother of the Bride. Ghastly. She looks like Kushner’s aunt.
Ivanka knew that Royalty would be there, so I think she was trying for an American Princess look. Instead she looks like cosplay Evita.
I was wondering why no one mentioned that hideous monstrosity on Ivanka – looks like she’s channelling 1950s Princess Grace. It’s so lingerie-looking. Gah!
She may have been channeling Grace, but she missed by a country mile, or should I say, about 15 yards of fabric.
http://www3.pictures.itsrosy.com/mp/UPgBIgX4ZX_l.jpg
Ok, I work hard not to criticize anyone’s physical appearance, even the Trump spawn… but do Princess Nagini’s toes look completely off the front of that shoe? I feel like someone could have suggested a different shoe?
I find the whole outfit strange … like it theoretically could work, but in practise, doesn’t …
Is jared wearing US Flag cuff links?
Probably, as through horrifying turns of events he’s become one of the most powerful men in the U.S. government and intends to keep his bony gritting ass sat in the White House by hook or by crook for decades.
Or perhaps the correct size. It looks like she’s having to flex her toes skyward to avoid having them drag on the pavement. Also, when do we stop pretending she’s not a fascist involved with internment camps and international crime syndicates and remove her from polite society?
Who’s pretending? Nobody here that I can think of.
Daughter-Wife AND her wax figure husband are as complicit/dirty as they come.
Ivanka makes me sick. I can’t understand how she keeps getting invited to these events?! How can people just gloss over the fact she and her husband are complicit in the orange turd’s regime?
@Jerusha: lots of people are pretending. The people who are still close friends with her and Jared and invited them to this wedding. The people that happily attended the wedding knowing these two vile criminals would be there. I’ve honestly lost all respect for Misha. If my fiancé was close friends with the Kushners, I would run for the hills, not marry him.
@Seraphina ITA. For a while I had hope that Ivanka & Jared would be completely shunned by NYC society once they were out of the White House, but it’s clear that won’t be happening. I think it’s a misstep for Meghan and Harry to place themselves in ANY social situation with these people.
@Lorelei. She asked when will “we” stop pretending. I take that to mean “we” here on CB. The pathetic people you mention are not here on CB, so none of “we” are pretending. The trump asskissers can pretend to their hearts’ content.
@stormsmama ——- I see Meghan (because she is really the problem here) should have asked Misha to not invite the Kushners…….of course, it is not her wedding but she has the authority to control the guest list. This is so funny………
So what are people suggesting here, that Harry and Meghan should of boycotted their friend’s wedding for the simple fact that Ivanka and Jared were invited too? Totally absurd. So Harry and Meghan can dictate how their friends run their lives now? Jesus!!🙄🙄
Why would you use the word “boycott?” She could have simply declined the invitation.
It looks like she has very wide feet and high fashion shoes aren’t made for feet like that.
I don’t know what I’d do if a good friend of mine invited a well-known fascist to her wedding. Do I hold my nose and attend because I love my friend? Or do I refuse to breathe the same air as someone like that? It’s a tough call.
I don’t really care for the dress…sort of frumpy. Nagini looks like a polyester mess, you could make 5 ugly nightgowns out of all that fabric. It pains me to say I like her hair, she finally ditched the center parted stick straight Barbie hair.
Yes, for the haircut. It really brings out her homeliness that tons of plastic surgery can‘t fix. Those trump genes really do them no favors.
Government powerhouse fixer by day. Veronica Lake by night. We are in the silent screen era.. Chick is never original.
I agree, the dress is frumpy and to me looks like something that would be more at home on someone forty years her senior…
The dress looks like an Elvira costume! I just cannot believe that thing cost 14k, its hideous.
I can’t get over how hard and plastic her face looks. Her skin has the same construction as a Barbie doll. If you dropped a golf ball on her face, it would bounce 20 feet up.
I’m in love with this dress and I hope she wears it again but with her hair down!
Meghan and Harry looked so happy and in love. I can’t wait for the tour
Meghan’s face is beautiful, but I have no opinion on the dress because there are no good or full pictures of her in it.
Also, when are people going to start ignoring tabloids like The Sun and Daily Mail? By now, we should all be aware of how toxic, racist, and deceitful they are.
Meghan will always rub certain people the wrong way because she didn’t completely give up her identity and friends like other royal spouses. Sophie and Kate changed everything about their lives and fully immersed themselves into the aristocratic lifestyle. Meghan is not going grouse shooting or learning to ride a horse and carriage. She’s not going to change the way she dresses so that she can look like a cast member on Downtown Abbey.
Meghan is definitely a needed modern breath of fresh air, but it’s not even been two years. Frankly, how could your life not change after marrying into a royal family? Having similar pursuits is actually a good thing. I believe philanthropy is a commonality that H and M share. (And I must have missed the announcement that hunting and horses became strictly a royal pursuit. I won’t even give you the carriage since I live somewhere where harness racing is popular.) Plus, Sophie actually tried to keep her career after her marriage, we all know how that went.
I abhor how the British press treat Meghan, and the constant criticism of H and M for things common within the BRF—private jets, expensive clothes and vacations—is rank hypocrisy and smacks of racism. On a lesser level, I’m sick of the constant comparisons between Kate and Meghan. They are their own person and defending/criticizing one shouldn’t necessitate dragging/elevating the other. They should stand on their own merits without being pitted against each other.
“They should stand on their own merits without being pitted against each other.”
If that statement was really true, Meghan wouldn’t be attacked so much. Let’s be honest here, in 2 years she has done more than Kate in her entire royal mingling time. That’s the problem!!! She did all of that while being a WOC……that only made it worse. If only she had been white and an English rose………so please, let’s not pretend it is anything else here………
Meghan will always be criticized because Kate did NOTHING and now Meghan arrived and showed that a duchess can actually DO SOMETHING
I think you took what I wrote the wrong way. I didn’t drag anyone. Kate and Sophie immersed themselves in the culture by taking lessons, learning how to shoot, learning how to ride horses,etc. so that they could fit in. Meghan is not fully there yet. I’m not saying one woman is better than the other, but what I am saying is that most royal spouses give up a lot of themselves in order to get along with the royal family.
Some of us are taking things too personally when it comes to discussing the royal family. It’s hard to have a harmless debate without someone thinking you are “dragging” their favorite Duchess. Not everything discussed is an insult.
My goodness, just like you posted a comment, I replied to it. Where did I say you were attacking Meghan? I highlighted the problem with your comment and said if true, Meghan wouldn’t be attacked.
Where did I say you dragged Meghan? I was talking in very general terms
I don’t care about the favorite duchess BS. I respect hard work! we have our issues in the US but for we mostly still admire and appreciate Hard Work. Meghan will always have my support, especially as far as her initiatives are concerned.
Last but not least, racism is despicable……one additional reason to say NO to the BS or faux-concern or faux-outrage around Meghan
@M
Way too personal.
I do not care for the dress on Meghan, From what I can see I think it ages her.
@Tampa Bay- I totally agree with this observation: the cut of this black dress with its transparent silver sparkle looks so grandmama is about to hit the dancefloor on the cruise ship. Fortunately, Meghan’s natural beauty and radiance make it acceptable. On a different note, no matter how hard I detest the Kushners, Ivanka looks like a Greek goddess in her tastefully flowy peach gown.
I like the dress from pic of runway version.
David Starkey is a horrible racist- research his comments on the London riots back in 2011. Most of his comments about Meghan are shade and stereotypical eg she’s domineering wife. I wouldn’t pay attention to much of what he says. Was WWF founder Prince Philip or Charles acting like Hollywood elites campaigning on conservation, environment whilst travelling on royal yachts, private jets etc?Also he was really wrong to label Chelsy as Eurotrash a while ago.
Not sure how self made Meghan can be more entitled than royals born into wealth&privilege without barely lifting a finger but there you go.
That dress looks like it would be listed with all the “Sexy Witch” stuff on the Spirit Halloween website.
Yes! I couldn’t put my finger on it.
It’s awful.
How did Ivanka and Jared get an invite? Are they friends with the bride or the groom? It puts a rather disturbing light on the whole affair.
Yes, they are friends with the bride and groom.
Maybe friend with both? I think the groom is a mega rich NYC Harvard alumnus bro like Jared Kushner.
It repulses me to see Kushner & Trump out and about smirking in high society. I guess there really is no real downside for them being active players in a bat***t crazy fascist regime.
The groom went to Harvard with Jared’s brother and they’re best friends.
Why is it so hard to understand that people can have different moral and political beliefs but still socialize with each other and even become friends? The 1% are all connected. This reminds me of the people who got upset when Michelle Obama and George W. Bush were loving on each other.
I’m not friends with people who are amoral, like Jared and Ivanka. You sound like my mother with the “everyone is entitled to their own opinions” when we argue about why I don’t communicate with my racist, bigoted, Trump-supporting relatives.
No! just no! This argument is not correct. You can be friends with person who have a terrible moral and political beliefs (homophobic, racist , , xenophone, misogynist or membres of neo – nazi mouvement ?)Continue to being friends with all that such horrible people, it’s their saying that their opinions are perfectly normal and acceptable.
I wouldn’t be buddies with Joseph and Magda Goebbels during the Third Reich and I wouldn’t be buddies with Jared and Ivanka now. They are more than mere relatives of Trump they are top advisors in the inside of his administration. They are there to make horrors happen and put a pretty palatable gloss on it.
Sorry but I will forever side-eye Misha Nonoo and whatever claims she makes about the good done by her fashion.
@m – it’s one thing to say different moral or religious beliefs in the sense of I’m Protestant and my husband is Catholic. It’s entirely different to socialize with members/spawn of a corrupt, racist, fascist, murderous and/or totalitarian government. That’s not just “different views” – that’s consorting with those who are attacking the very pillars of democracy.
@tourmaline – exactly!
My thoughts exactly – why are these two there? Says something about this Nono person and her man.
I agree. Tom riddle and Nagini are putting a young face to facism and kleptocracy and the US should be protesting en masse about what they have already done. Anyone who invites them to a wedding should be judged harshly.
@Nic919, I must say that 100% agree with you. Respecting differences of opinion is one thing but being seen with someone engaging in fascism and kleptocracy is another.
Here is what I think happened: the groom very much wanted Josh Kushner & Karlie Kloss to be present at the weeding as they are close friends. I think Ivanka & Jared probably finagle an invitation to this wedding via Josh. Maybe it was better to invite them than to have them gatecrash the party,
The reality is, despite what people say, that same elite crowd welcomes them with open arms. I highly doubt they were outcasts inside that event.
I am sure you are right but I think it’s sad though. Jared and Ivanka seamlessly can go from laughing it up in the West Wing with Stephen Miller (it’s been reported they get along wonderfully with him) to these kind of events. And it is gross.
One of the few society elites that openly drags Ivanka and all things Trump is fashion darling Lauren Santo Domingo – and I love her for that.
The saddest part is that like protects like. They stick together in the end. Don’t want to lose all the $.
The dress is gorgeous. I am sure she looked great.
I like Meghan’s dress from little that I can see and even more the earrings.
In one of the pics Harry had an expression that would not surprise me that they had conceived a baby on this Roman holiday LOL
Love the dress as seen in the photo. To hell with superstitions about what color people should or shouldn’t wear.
All these people trying to dictate how the duchess ought to behave probably still long for the good old days of Henry VIII when Kings were Kings and women were property.
My sister had a black and white formal wedding. Her dress was a vintage dress from the 20s (she found in a consignment shop), think “aged” cream color; I (as maid of honor) and all the bridesmaids wore black dresses (we got to choose our own style of gown), flowers were various shades of white with some greenery. It was a gorgeous wedding.
Nothing wrong with wearing black to an evening wedding, formal or not, if that’s what you want/like.
I like the dress I think. It’s not my style but it’s a pretty thing that suits the occasion.
The royals should be thanking their lucky stars they have an infusion of star power with Meghan. And a biracial woman who can make them seem relevant and relatable to many of the commonwealth countries who otherwise would probably want to give them the boot sooner rather than later!
@Maevo
It’s comments like this that makes me scratch my head. I come from a Commonwealth country in Africa and I think you are over estimating the importance of Meghan. She is a from all indications a good, hardworking person but I don’t think Meghan will factor into any decision of my country to remain in the Commonwealth or not.
@Linda
100% agree. I’d take it one step further and say that i actually find these comments rather belittling.
I don’t know anyone personally who gives a damn about the commonwealth, but as a tiny third world country, we aren’t going to risk the UK’s wrath by opting out. If we do decide to leave, there will be a serious political discussion about the potential ramifications of that decision for us, not just because some british journalists are mean to meghan.
Honestly i get the need to defend meghan against the vicious press but please don’t portray us as brainless sheep.
I mean Meghan is American, how come none of the Americans posting here are predicting that the US will sever its ties to the UK over meghan’s mistreatment?
@Linda: Honestly dreading the whole tour now, this is the kind of comments we’ll be getting here.
I liked the dress tbh. I really really loved the net.
Daily Fail critiqued Meghan for wearing black yet called Karlie gorgeous…. for also wearing black. They’re biased and racist but what else is new?
Princess Eugenie also wore black, among many other female guest, but as usual only Meghan is critiqued for it.
Yeah and she’s the only one whose dress price was listed too.
They were not at wedding ceremony, think it was a pre-wedding party
It was the ceremony. Party was the day before and apparently they skipped it. Wedding was held at the studio where La Dolce Vita was filmed. La Dolce Vita was also the theme of the wedding, hence the Black, old school glam type looks. Eugenie also is in black.
Yeah, they were at the wedding ceremony. They skipped the after party yesterday.
How is she a “dominant wife”? She is a person who obviously likes to take care of people and her husband especially. Harry is used to being waited on, while Meg is used to take charge. It sounds like a very comfortable, very natural dynamic.
From what I can see of Meghan’s dress, I like it. I’d need to see a full photo to form a firm opinion.
Nagini has such a punchable face, just like her father.
So many backhanded compliments in that piece. I guess this is the Fail’s way to sound impartial. LOL. I actually like the runaway picture of the dress, so I would have loved to see a better picture on the Duchess.
I’m not a big fan of the dress, but judging from the other attendees dresses, she wasn’t dressed inappropriately or anything, so who cares
I liked the dress from what I could see. Meghan is short, so I wondered what changes were made for her height. I’m sure we’ll see this dress again.
Nagini looked ridiculous. Trying so hard to play at royalty. She and the Mannequin are horrible people and no amount of expensive clothing will change that.
Other women wore black at this wedding too. And commenters are pointing that out. The dress looks billowy and the type that depends on how it hangs on the wearer.
They did price point other gowns. Ivanka’s was close to 3000 USD and her girls hanging out look like Oscar red carpet. Katy Perry’s was 875 USD and hers look like prom night in the 50’s. I would love to know the seating arrangements for the ceremony and the reception. Katy took a swipe at Meghan’s wedding dress for being poorly fitted and Ivanka was doing some major sucking up to get invited to Harry and Meghan’s wedding. I wonder if they met face to face? That would be a story. I notice Ivanka was in no pictures with the Sussexes.
She was on a TV show. I’d hardly call that “Hollywood Elite”…my god. She’s not Nicole Kidman fer crisssakes. As far as I’ve read, she never had a reputation as entitled or diva-like. She was a working actor. She paid her own way. To call that Hollywood elite? Bullsh*t. The press always has to have something to bitch about. Or should I say, some woman to bitch about.
If the British people are really pissed about how much her clothes cost, just look at the amount of free publicity that country is getting around the world. Let’s face it, who cared about the royals lately before Meghan?
p.s. I think that dress is lovely.
“Let’s face it, who cared about the royals lately before Meghan?”
Likewise could also be truthfully said vice versa.
Still waiting to see better photos of earrings
For some reason the comment I replied to disappeared but the context was that Meghan worked in some dumb TV show nobody watched, and that it’s a good thing the UK has to support her instead of the US. Ummm…no. She has her own money and she was on a very successful show that was filmed in my home city, Toronto. She’s been a philanthropist for years, long before Harry came into the picture. Don’t you worry, the US can save its $13000 and spend it on the wall.
Haha Jaded, about the $13K going towards their wall. That person removed the comment, because I also replied.
I see – great minds think alike!
I actually like the dress and it’s something I would wear. Lol, if ever I had a buckets of money and was invited somewhere fancy.
No word on how Bea and Eugenie travelled to Italy?
Good God(dess) – is Nagini cosplaying Grace Kelly from 1952?
Getting very tired of these narratives trying to tear down women of colour because the have money and like to spend it on nice things. Michelle Obama was the latest target because of her very lucrative book deal. I mean how dare she? 🙄
Can someone explain to me why it’s wrong for a woman to wear black to a wedding? That’s the color most men choose for their suits.
It’s only wrong when Meghan does it. No uproar for Princess Eugenie wearing black to the same wedding. Go figure.
It’s considered wrong in an old-fashioned sense because black is the color of mourning. (In most western cultures, anyway.) That’s changing, too, of course.
I shall now explain this wedding. It’s actually a New Jersey wedding. Mikey Hess and Josh/Jared Kushner may have been friends at Harvard (after their billionaire parents made donations), but their families knew each other for years. Leon Hess (oil and gas; polluter) knew Charles Kushner (real estate; slumlord) and did business with him for years. Long time ago (like 2001) they were Democrats and donated extensively to the party.
Also attending this global warming festival were Nancy Shevell and her fabulous husband Sir Paul McCartney. Lady McCartney’s father founded and her family still owns New England Motor Freight, a giant smog-belching trucking company that has bought Mikey Hess’s family’s diesel fuel for decades.
Remember that Nagini’s (she was the one in the mother of the bride dress) male parent is a grifter who laundered billions through New Jersey casinos for a decade or two. Lately he is working on destroying the world.
Harry and Meghan should have done some research and declined the invitation.
I want to hear everything you have to say
Marjorie you have a way with words!
I see Misha Nonoo likes to talk up the green environmental benefits of her clothing business. HA
@marjorie – thanks! Very enlightening!
Why?
Misha was just in London supporting Meghan and even designed a shirt for the Smart set collection.
Meghan and Harry can’t live in a bubble.
Yes, please.
@Marjorie, Excellent and most perfect post!
The taxpayers do not support the Cambridges nor the Sussexes, Prince Charles does via the Duchy which was privately owned since the 1300s.
The Crown Estate has replaced the Civil List which provided for all the members of the royal family.
One can have a opinion of liking or not liking the dress, but price and suitability should be of no concern since it was a private event.
Lack of access is no excuse for poor tabloid reporting. If there is insufficient verifiable data there should be no story.
“Lack of access is no excuse for poor tabloid reporting. If there is insufficient verifiable data there should be no story” ——- unfortunately, looks like most of the UK press from which you can exclude the very few reputable newspapers are never stopped by such consideration
The taxpayers do not support the Cambridges nor the Sussexes, Prince Charles does via the Duchy which was privately owned since the 1300s.
The Crown Estate has replaced the Civil List which provided for all the members of the royal family.
One can have a opinion of liking or not liking the dress, but price and suitability should be of no concern since it was a private event.
Lack of access is no excuse for poor tabloid reporting. If there is insufficient verifiable data there should be no story.
I hadn’t heard anyone use the expression “emotional intelligence” or “EQ” in awhile. I’m not sure why there’s a word for it. I tend to assume most people have some emotional intelligence and there are a minority of people who don’t. And I think “EQ” sets it up too much like “IQ” – which I know is intentional – but the way I’ve always heard it has been the two pitted against each other. So I’ve usually heard “EQ” being touted by people who are insecure about their book smarts or intellect. Is this what other people have heard? I wanted to check. I think I may have a very skewed impression of this.
When my son had a break down at 13 years old, last year and had to be committed.
He still had all his intelligence but he had emotionally regressed to about 2-3 years.
I described his EQ as being about 3
It was like having a very intelligent damaged 3 year old.
They are two very different things
@cairinacat I’m so sorry you both went through that. It must have been very scary and trying for your family. I hope your son is recovering and continues to do well.
No @Bananie, EQ is not for people who are “insecure about their book smarts”. It means empathy really, being able to relate to people, to understand their needs. It is not mutually exclusive to IQ either but you can have someone who is considered to have a high intellect (whatever that means) but limited people or “soft” skills.
Ha for once I loved Meghan’s dress but I like that old fashioned look I wish we could see a full length picture of her wearing it.
I hate Ivanka with a passion and I think her new hair do emphasises her nose which has been ruined with plastic surgery
I like the dress. I think it’s pretty.
The dress doesn’t do meghan any favours. I could see it maybe working on Kiera Knightly or Nicole Kidman – on anyone not tall and super skinny it reads a bit frumpy/50’s style peignoir. Her head looked great and I like her earrings.
Sorry not sorry, but I think Meghan would have looked sensational in Ivanka’s dress.
No one would have looked “sensational” in Ivanka’s dress. I read somewhere that the dress belonged to her mother Ivana. If that is true, I totally believe it because it is matronly as h@ll.
In the pictures I’ve seen Meghan looks lovely, as usual. I can’t really see the dress but I don’t care for the pictures I’ve seen. Luckily for every woman attending, Trump’s daughter-wife was there to look worse than EVERYBODY else.
As for how much it cost, both Harry and Meghan have their own money and 12K isn’t a lot of money to people like then. In addition, does anybody really think Valentino charged her retail? For the publicity Valentino will receive for having the Duchess of Sussex wearing one of their dresses at such a high profile event, they would pay her? I doubt any kind of serious money was exchanged. Same for the hotel. It’s called ‘comping’.
With what this cost she could have dressed a lot of women at smart works
yeah, and if the queen sold everything she owns, she could help so many people in her realm.
I scrolled to the bottom and thought “EW! F U Ivanka!”
Too bad we don’t have a shot of her shoes. I think she really ties it together with her shoes. She has a fierce shoe game.
I wish we had better pictures of Meghan’s dress. It looks like she had that underslip made for it because only one of the Kardashians would have worn the original, lol. That said, it think it probably looked beautiful in person, it is hard to capture the movement of the ruffles in a still picture and the only film was from the back. And Ivanka, gee whiz, what was she thinking with that, it looked like curtains.
Pan a dress that you see from the BACK FROM THE WAIST up. It’ snot see-thru, so it’s bespoke, so we dont know how much she paid for it
If she paid for it, why do some people keep counting her coins
IF Charles paid, then, why dont people who are so bothered dont have that same energy for Kate equally or more expensive wardobe.. The delusion is strong about the negative bias aimed at Duchess Meghan
This is such a bad look for all the people who attended. I can’t believe everyone’s commenting on the dresses when these people are literally rubbing elbows with Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump. And the people saying “Oh, should Meghan have boycotted her friends wedding because Jared and Ivanka would be there?” Um, yes. Why are they friends with people who associate with Trumps? All of the people who attended this wedding should be ashamed.