The NYT and other outlets have published the transcript (or “transcript”) of Donald Trump’s call with Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky, where Trump asked for Zelensky to get information on the Bidens. This is jaw-dropping stuff and it’s not even the complete transcript. [NYT]
Rudy Giuliani had another meltdown on a cable news show. [Towleroad]
Keanu Reeves supports his sister at a premiere. [Just Jared]
Here’s more about Prince Andrew & the Russians. [LaineyGossip]
The Dlisted Podcast chats about Demi Moore & Miley Cyrus. [Dlisted]
The Fug Nation’s Emmys Best Dressed. [Go Fug Yourself]
Did Jon Cryer really lose his V to Demi Moore? [Pajiba]
A look at the misogyny directed at Greta Thunberg. [Jezebel]
The Other Way’s Deavan is pregnant & might return to the US. [Starcasm]
Ellen DeGeneres pulled something in her neck. [Seriously OMG]
Wow that’s….that’s really bad. I don’t know what else to say. For the USA to continue to have even the slightest bit of legitimacy as a democracy? Trump needs to go. Now.
Giuliani is the living embodiment of “you either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain”. If he’d died of say, a heart attack, in 2002? In the period immediately after 9/11? There’d be statues and parks and medals and god knows what else named after him. But given enough time, he has absolutely destroyed his legacy. It’s wild to see.
He was hated by many even before 9/11.
Bella—Scum gonna scum.
The US needs to impeach BOTH Trump and Pence. Because they are both products of an election that was illegally interfered with by a foreign country.
As for Giuliani, he’s an example of how powerful people can manipulate tragedies and wars to rally support around themselves under the guise of unity.
And Pence was handpicked by Manafort. He’s in it up to his eyeballs too.
You know, we were due to have a god-awful leader at some point in our history, but damn….!
I thought it would be a bare bones joke of a memo, but it’s not.
The biggest evidence to date is Rudy and Orange each admitting things they did. I guess if you don’t care what is right, you don’t see anything wrong with, well, anything.
If these are the crimes they will admit to, it’s terrifying to think of the crimes they are covering up.
So true, Megan.
Apparently the original phone call is recorded as being 30 minutes long, and the transcript, if said aloud, would take approximately 11 minutes. So there was plenty of Rose Mary Woods activity on this so-called transcript. It’s more appropriate to call it a memo.
This pesky detail needs to be on blast.
Definitely tip of the iceberg.
The ineptness is staggering, too. Did anyone else see the lengthy “talking points” memo for Repubs the WH sent via e-mail to Dems by mistake? Then the staffer attempted to recall the message an hour later. By that time, screenshots were all over social media.
Uh, oh… now appearing on my Yahoo page:
“The White House accidentally sent its anti-impeachment talking points intended for allies in Congress to House Democrats.
On Wednesday morning, the White House emailed its media strategy for defending President Trump against the charge that he tried to bribe or coerce Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to investigate the son of former Vice President Joe Biden in a phone call on July 25. Along with House Republicans who will likely be asked about the impeachment inquiry every time they speak to the media, the president’s team also sent them to some of the Democrats investigating him, including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. According to copies of the emails obtained by Yahoo News, about 40 minutes after sending the talking points out, the White House attempted to recall them.”
And lol… “Symonds, ToriQ EOP/WHO would like to recall this message”
Oh Deavan.. girl, why? Maybe Jihoon has gotten his act more together? On the show right now, he’s very immature. To the point that his parents are like “please get your own place” lol
It’s because the Democrats have let him get away with everything and he thinks they will continue to. This is what happens when a child continues to misbehave without any consequences. His call to the President of Ukraine was the *next* day after Muller’s testimony in Congress fell flat. Trump felt free.
Nancy OVER-learned from the Clinton impeachment and thinks Trump will become more popular during impeachment. Like, it’s your job to explain to the public and get them on your side for impeachment. Republicans do it all the time when they are in the minority.
@Originial T.C. – Do the Dems run the Senate the REAL muscle in Congress?
No….
So…how did the Dems let him “get away with everything?”….when in the first year of his Trump’s installment…Republicans had the House…and the second year…you have SEEN all of the different investigations that the Dems have been doing…fighting obstruction…EVERY step of the way…from Republicans in the House…Republicans in the Senate….THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE…and…SCOTUS…
Stop it with that narrative…it’s false AF
“Baby-man” is my new favorite term, though!
@hellosunshine I know! Do they not believe in contraceptives? So wild.
Holy Moly! It reads like Dick and Jane.
Trump: Hello Zelensky! You are good.
Zelensky: Hello Trump! I am good because you are good. See me be good!
T: Yes, but see ME be more good. Can you get me dirt on Biden? He is bad.
Z: Yes, because I am good. I am your friend. Friends are good! BTW can you get me dirt on our former ambassador in return? She is bad.
T: Yes! Friends are good! See us be friends.
Z: Friends are good and you are the most good. All my friends are good too. See us all be good! Like you!
T: See Rudy. Rudy is good. He will call you. Okay, bye bye Zelensky!
Z: Bye bye Trump!
Lol that is so incredibly spot-on
That is genius! Just a slight suggestion to the last thing Trump says. Seemed like : “you’re good, but not as good as me” LOL
Giuliani is off his rocker. I hope he ends up in prison next to Cohen and Manafort.
See I told you! KARMA IS A BITCH AND SHE IS WORKING HER MAGIC.
Its not a proper transcript- and they’ll redact the complaint.
The WH has too much power.
The “transcript” not only does not help him, it implicates Barr!
I love Jon Cryer. I have loved him since he was in Sixteen Candles. So glad he remains a decent guy.
I think you mean Pretty in Pink, he wasn’t in Sixteen Candles. But, yes, Duckie 4-ever! 😁
as a fan of the movie, you probably know this, but Andie was originally supposed to end up with Duckie, not Blane.
the test audiences didn’t like that ending (which, frankly, makes more sense and would parallel the ending of Some Kind of Wonderful – “true love was right in front of you the whole time!”) so the studio changed it to have her end up with Blane.
they had to re-shoot the ending at the prom, and you’ll notice how TERRIBLE Andrew McCarthy looks. he had shaved his head and lost weight for another role, and that’s why he looks sickly and has that really bad wig.
I did know that! And Molly Ringwald was sick with the flu during filming of said prom scene. The universe was trying to tell them to leave the ending as it was 😉
No US president has ever been successfully impeached from the The White House. Andrew Jackson and Bill Clinton were both impeached, but it was acquitted by the Senate. Trump won’t be any different.
Also, Biden and his son should be investigated. That whole story is very suspicious.
Andrew Johnson – the 17th POTUS, not Andrew Jackson – the 7th. Although Jackson doesn’t have a great legacy either.
Otherwise, your point still stands.
Johnson won both trials by a single vote. It was very important though it reaffirmed many people’s belief that a sitting President should not be impeached because Congressional does not approve of their style, policies, or administration as long as it is within the bounds of the law. It also curbed future Presidents’ ability to play a role in legislation.
Biden and the company were investigated! He was notoriously corrupt and still said there was no wrong doing even though his father was spearheading the campaign (along with our allies leaders as well – not just Biden or Obama) to get him removed from office.
The country’s top prosecutor was viewed as corrupt. Biden – in his official capacity at the time – was involved in efforts to oust him (multiple officials reportedly viewed him as corrupt, as you mention). Poking the bear like this could have resulted in trouble for JB’s son, yet no actual investigations or wrongdoing have been identified.
Being on a paid board of directors is not a crime. Specific experience is not required, either. Hunter did not have to be an natural gas expert to serve on that board. He didn’t have to be a transportation expert to serve on the board of Amtrak (which then-President GWB asked him to do). When his dad became VP, he resigned, resumed his law career and went into investment/international work.
Oh sorry Christin, if I wasn’t very clear (or you wrote yours before mine posted!). It has been investigated by a few prosecutors and nothing was found. And Ukraine didn’t meddle in our election for Hillary, another crazy talking point.
Lindsay, I wanted to help lay out more information for those who are believing there is more “there” than actually exists. Hunter has had personal drama, so some may be assuming more than really exists. Yet even some right-leaning media were making it clear there was no impropriety ever identified.
The Biden thing is NOT an issue.
Christin is exactly right. Biden’s moves actually may have hurt his son, but he did it anyway because it was the right thing to do. Biden was the Ukrainian point person, but he was working on behalf of Administration and was supported by European gov’ts, the IMF, etc. The prosecutor in the Ukraine at that time was not going after corruption. That’s why Biden, etc. wanted him out, as they should. His replacement was supposed to start investigations, and that could possibly have put Biden’s son under scrutiny (though no evidence he was involved in any wrong doing). So Biden put loyalty to the US over the best interests of his own son, the exact opposite of what Trump does.
“Also, Biden and his son should be investigated. That whole story is very suspicious.”
they have been, and it’s not.
but nice try on pushing the talking points here. *golf clap*
PS Nixon, I suspect, would have been the first to be “convicted” and removed from office, but he resigned before that could happen. I wonder if 45 will do the same.
No – Nixon had people from his own party willing to grow a spine and stand up to him. Trump knows the system of checks and balances is corroded to the point he isn’t in any danger of getting 2/3 of the Senate to convict.
Lindsay, while I appreciate what you’re saying about the Spineless Senate, I am hoping that, when all the information comes out, and the public opinion shifts, and some GOPers are in danger of losing their seats in 2020 because they WON’T follow the rule of law, the Senate members will grow a set.
@waitwhat.
It looks like Ukraine is likely to reopen the investigation of Hunter Biden’s Firm. Several media outlets are already reporting on it, so we shall see!
Also, in 2016, Biden threatened to withhold $1 billion in US loan guarantees to Ukraine if the government did not fire the country’s top prosecuter, Shokin. You know who had a stake in that outcome? Hunter Biden. Let’s not pretend Biden isn’t corrupt.
What What? That is very generous and optimistic of you. If any of them were even thinking of doing anything there would be more half hearted, mealy mouth statements they would be able to point to later and say “I stood up to him early on!” He could kill their families and they would say, “they deserved it, I never liked them much anyway. Also, with this sacred tradition, that is about two days old, he can’t be prosecuted or even investigated.”
They gave up all the party’s “principals” such as they were – family values, patriotism, love of the military, love of the Constitution, fiscal responsibility, Christianity all while bending over backwards to justify, obfuscate, and please their new master.
They know they have married the Republican party to this monster and his cult of personality. They are prepared to begin to go down with the ship, with the hope they can hold on long enough to right the boat after he is gone to save the GOP. They are spineless, soulless morons selling out their country, spitting on the Constitution, and breaking the oath they took.
As little faith as I have in them (which if you can’t tell is none) I have even less in the public. His followers will never leave him. They just don’t care, in fact they like it. The horrible people willing to vote with their checkbooks probably in the end will mostly stay too. I hate to agree with Bill Marh but maybe there should be an economic recession. It will take away the one thing he can run on – the good economy he inherited.
Sour Patch. Please list those media outlets that are reporting a new investigation. Haven’t seen anything about that, but, of course, I don’t frequent right wing crackpot sites.
@Jerusha.
I don’t visit “right wing crackpot” sites either. Also, you’re more than welcome to do a quick internet search yourself!
You’re the one who brought it up, so some proof to back it up would be nice. Not my job to search for proof of your assertion.
Yes, it’s the responsibility of the person making the assertion to prove it.
Sour Patch, as others noted, if you make a claim and people ask for a source, you provide it. that’s basic debating. however, as I hadn’t heard of this, I did search. and the only (credible) site that I found that is reporting that Ukraine is “re-opening” an investigation was the National Review.
https://www.nationalreview.com/news/ukraine-may-open-an-investigation-into-alleged-biden-corruption/
That publication has a very conservative bias, and the headline is deceptive (deliberately, I suspect), but…the article said this.
“Ukrainian parliament member Valentin Nalyvaichenko told the Daily Beast that the investigations into Burisma will most likely on internal corruption within the company itself, rather than targeting Biden and his son directly”
did you catch that part about not targeting Biden and his son?
Also, you said:
“Also, in 2016, Biden threatened to withhold $1 billion in US loan guarantees to Ukraine if the government did not fire the country’s top prosecuter, Shokin. You know who had a stake in that outcome? Hunter Biden. Let’s not pretend Biden isn’t corrupt.”
and that is simply not true. The UN, the Ukraine Gov’t, and the US (with Biden as rep) ALL wanted the prosecutor fired because of him obstructing investigations into corruption by Ukraine companies. and, BTW, Hunter Biden wasn’t even on the board of that Ukraine company when this happened.
I suggest you read something besides the Fox News and GOP talking points, because they’re almost always distortions of the facts, if not outright lies.
Sour Patch, as several have pointed out to you, the Bidens were investigated and no wrong doing found. But, as several touched on this, and I know you are pushing forth the Trump administration talking points that were sent out to House members and GOP mouthpieces, and, stupidly, to Speaker Pelosi, the investigation you and Trump and his minions are demanding would be conducted, not by the House or Senate, but the FBI and prosecuted by the Department of Justice and Attorney General Barr. It would be up to Barr to prosecute. He hasn’t.
@candikat you made this old witch laugh.
I declare a winner. 🏆🍰
“I have many Ukrainian friends, their incredible people.” Did Trump write this transcript himself?
No but they had to transcribe his bigly words.
Also, if he sounded competent people would be even less likely to believe the validity of this transcript.
Although I knew it wasn’t even a remote possibility, it killed even the 0.000000001% for my hope he tried to at least sound like he could pass an easy English as a second language exam at a terrible, far below average high school if Aunt Becky greased some palms. It is mortifying.
And the way world leaders have to coddle him… Ugggh
Omg! Deavan is pregnant AGAIN?? This show has me constantly face palming myself!
I’m not really here for Greta or the Jezebel piece. Climate change disproportionately affects POC.
Check out @hownottotravellikeabasicbitch on Instagram. She sums it a million times better than I ever could.
Can we talk about how once again the Man-Child in Chief targeted a smart, capable woman so he could ruin her career and reputation?
The ambassador (“Ivanovitch”) that Trump and Zelensky are discussing like two incels who can’t get a date is Marie Yovanovitch, the U.S. ambassador to Ukraine, who has served under 3 U.S. presidents.
HE IS THROWING A CAREER U.S. DIPLOMAT INTO UKRAINE’S LAP FOR “INVESTIGATION”. Probably because she disagreed with him in the course of being competent at her job. And Mr. “Fragile Masculinity” Zelensky got his feelings hurt because Yovanovitch didn’t suck up to him.
https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/09/25/politics/us-ambassador-ukraine-trump-call/index.html
As an outsider, I just don”t see that the average American is going to care about this . So much has happened to lower the grace of the office of President and it just continues and the GOP SAY NOTHING .I think the impeachment battle is going to deplete the energy of and deflect attention away from the Democrats at a crucial time.
Impeachment is what we have been working for since our election was stolen. There is power in pushing back. Sitting on our hands and being political is killing our spirit, it’s time to fight back!