I really didn’t think that yesterday’s Demi Moore story would be so controversial. I considered it more of a filler story, sort of like “oh, Demi is talking about lots of old sh-t in her memoir.” I was genuinely surprised that people still have strong feelings about Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher and their marriage. My personal vibe is that Ashton has always been a major douche, and so of course that tainted how I read Demi’s interview. I have no trouble believing he’s a toxic cheater who blamed Demi for his infidelities. Which isn’t to say that I think Demi is a saint, or that I think her memoir is classy in the least. No, Demi has issues and all of that. But my larger point is that Demi was in a vulnerable position and Ashton exploited her insecurities repeatedly. That’s how I see it, feel free to disagree. Anyway, Ashton has been paying attention to some of what Demi has said, and he decided to “respond.” His response is… well, you’ll see. Note: I can’t embed the tweet because Ashton has blocked me on Twitter. He’s had me blocked for years.
Ashton Kutcher didn’t really offer his “truth.” On Wednesday, Kutcher tweeted a phone number and offered his followers an opportunity to receive some “truth” in light of Demi Moore‘s explosive claims in her new memoir, “Inside Out.” Fans hoping to receive a response to Moore were left disappointed, as a conversation with “Kutcher” focused on his and wife Mila Kunis’ latest political ambitions as a way to try to distract from Moore’s headline-making book.
Page Six texted the former “The Ranch” star’s number and received these auto-supplied messages: “Mila and I met with President Zelenski and his wife a little over a week ago. My gut: He is committed to eliminating corruption in Ukraine. He’s also committed to ending the war and grateful for the US financial commitment because they need it,” the text read.
When we responded saying we’re looking for an update on Moore, Kutcher’s automated texts responded, “If our president used that financial aid to leverage president Zelensky to investigate Biden should be impeached. If our president did not use it as leverage and simply encouraged president Zelensky to investigate Biden without cause he should be impeached.”
Page Six responded again in an attempt to try and receive an original response, but only another pre-planned one was received: “If you like President Trump or not America is the priority soliciting foreign interference in our election in unAmerican [sic].” The “conversation” ended there with no Moore acknowledgment, though Kutcher previously tweeted that he had to withhold a “snarky tweet.”
Just another classic example of Ashton thinking he’s super-clever. I don’t know what to really expect from any of this – I believe Demi has the right to tell her story, however messy that story is. If Ashton wanted to respond – and I mean, truly respond – that would be his right as well. While Ashton might know some “dirt” on Demi, I feel like if he had a real denial or a real argument against what Demi alleges, he would have already come out and said it long ago. Occam’s razor: he cheated on Demi constantly, he negged her and made her feel sh-tty about herself and he knows that he can’t really explain “his side” of it because his side is garbage.
Photos courtesy of WENN.
i kind of thought she went out of her way to take responsibility for *checks notes* being cheated on…i think his response just proves out the fact that he’s a douche.
Was Mila one of the women he cheated with?
No. And people need to stop making this about Mila. She wasn’t involved in any capacity with what happened between Ashton and his first wife
Good to know, thanks.
I feel very defensive of Mila also. She knew AK before and after Demi, and in the interim very much lived her own life. I feel like our childhood friendships/romances can sometimes transcend all the other crap in life. You can not see/speak to someone from childhood for 20 years and reconnect in moments.
I actually think this is pretty funny. Everyone wants a response from him and nothing he says will appease anyone or get anyone on his side. So he took the time to make the attention about something more important.
And for the record Demi WAS vulnerable. But she also wasn’t a victim. That vulnerability came from her substance abuse issues and her desire to be seen young and fun by her much younger partner.
And the sexual abuse and her awful upbringing courtesy of her mother.
Can’t believe it’s the Kutcher stuff and not her rape at 15 that’s getting the headlines.
Wait – yes I can.
Right! When I logged in the other day I fully expected most of the coverage to be about how she said her mother may have sold her to a man for 500 dollars and it’s instead typical Hollywood affair drama the past two days.
That was horrible, particularly her thoughts on her mother’s involvement. If her mother didn’t sell her then why did the guy have the keys?
I think the sexual abuse Demi talked about was a big reason she and Ashton were so involved in working against sex trafficking. Which, hey, any good cause is still a good cause no matter who does it. Which is also messed up that he took a vulnerable Demi and even brought up 3somes and then cheated knowing her crappy history with men.
Look, I like the message he shared on the phone. In his mind, I’ll bet he thought he’d look superior bringing awareness to a more important cause instead of a memoir of a dysfunctional relationship. He most probably felt like such the bigger person so to speak and wanted her to look petty. Again, good message but crappy platform. Makes HIM look petty, instead.
If she needed to get her story out and felt sharing it would be good for her then go for it. Its her truth, no one is forced to buy it.
Yes it was years ago and Ashton was young and he probably looks at it as that. Ancient history. But they were both adults and its her right to share. Consequences come from every action but the platform is open to freewill.
I cant help but be so curious why he would block someone though. He always seemed like an overly thin skinned puzxy
Literally all he would have to say is “I acknowledge the part I played in our toxic relationship and I’m sorry for the pain I caused.” That’s it. It’s not that difficult. He’s not taking the blame for everything, just his part. Life is messy and humans hurt each other. Just freaking apologize!
But he’s not going to do that, obviously. Instead he passive-aggressively “reminds” Demi that he now has a wife who successfully bore his children, and then deflects criticism to some other subject entirely.
He could have either been completely silent with a blanket “no comment” (with no smarmy editorialization) or apologized and then moved on. But no, he continues to try to demean Demi and belittle her experiences.
He’s always been a d-bag, though, so it doesn’t surprise me that he’s reacting this way.
And how do we know what was or wasnt said or hasnt been said between them since they split?? This is why tell-alls are dangerous because they only tell one side of the story and the author can omit whatever they like to fit the narrative they want to tell.
What I find interesting about all of this is that over the last few years Demi and Ashton had been on friendly terms. There were even photo of Demi, Ashton and Mila together at some event. So Demi clearly felt okay enough to choose to be in his presence post-divorce. Again. She’s not a victim.
Why does he have to apologize to the public for something that happened in a private relationship?
I agree Tuntmore. He’s gross, he’s always been gross. But he’s a handsome white guy, everyone loves to excuse their shitty behavior. She’s taking responsibility for her side. He’s being a child. Shocking.
@Kebbie lol. He’s not that attractive. I’ve never gotten the hype around him in that way.
He was cute-ish in his Kelso days (way too goofy for my taste, but I could see it), but these days are long gone. He is already hit in these old pictures with Moore.
It’s not hard to just say nothing.
Great post, Tuntmore, and I agree entirely.
I agree. The comment about looking at his wife and kids was a jab at her. And it’s probably within his character to make these kinds of jabs. Really. Silence is golden.
This is exactly what I thought reading it last night. His original “snarky” tweet was probably more benign than the cutting message he ended up giving- oh nevermind, I can’t be bothered by this frivolousness of my past because I landed the golden egg, a woman who looks like you but much younger, and 2 kids YOU couldn’t provide me. He’s being diabolically dismissive purposefully and it came off so cruel to me. She’s telling her story, and the press will be gone in a few weeks. As Keeks says, “Silence is golden” and his version of taking the high road was just mean.
All he had to do was keep his mouth shut. That’s the best thing to do in this case. Do NOT show everyone that you are as gross and idiotic as reported and keep your trap shut.
I agree!
All he had to say was “I respect Demi’s right to tell her story.”
Yeah I’d be cool with that. That, or just a “no comment” would be fine.
I don’t mind him pressing the impeachment stuff, we all need to continue screaming it at the top of our lungs, but this is a weird thing for him to tie it to.
Yeah, I find it amusing too.
Honestly, nobody is a perfect victim or a perfect villain in all of this. I think Demi had a lot more power in that relationship, and I think it was probably a really mismatched pairing. I don’t doubt that he cheated on her, or was a crap husband at least at times.
The thing with Ashton is that he’s openly been kind of a douchebag, but it was mainly when he was younger – which isn’t so much of an excuse as it is just a fact. He was young and in a relationship with someone who was part of a power couple and had a lot of pull in the industry at least in comparison to himself. Since then, he seems to have grown up a lot. I mean, the guys not a complete piece of crap. He originally wanted to major in biochemical engineering – he is by no means a moron. He wanted to major in that to find a cure for his brothers heart condition – which is admirable. He’s spent a lot of time and energy trying to shed light on human trafficking. Again – these aren’t typically interests of a truly despicable person. It also doesn’t make him a saint.
I can’t imagine being in either person’s situation to be honest. It’s sucky to know that you were shady in your past and a terrible partner and to have details of that on display years later. It would especially suck now that he has a wife and a young family. It’d be embarrassing not matter how good a relationship you had to have details shared.
I’m stuck between supporting her for sharing her own story, but also feeling kind of gross about it. She has every right to do that, but it still is awkward. But I don’t think MOST people would behave perfectly and without at least a tiny pang of pettiness if they were in the same situation.
Agreed on all counts.
What a great comment, Erinn! I wish I could upvote it.
I agree with this. It was an unequal relationship- she had children, maturity, and years of being a Hollywood A-list couple behind her. He had, what? Hotness and immaturity?
I don’t doubt he acted badly – probably because he got sucked into a marriage he wasn’t mature enough to know wouldn’t work out. She, however, WAS mature enough to know that it wouldn’t turn out well…but they both still went ahead with it.
It seems like he’s matured, and it seems like Demi is doing a lot of soul-searching. Good for them both.
We really don’t know the whole story, and to say that her vulnerability stems for the reasons you state is too simplistic. She was a HW power player back then, but she was carrying a lot of baggage and hurt inside. Tears came to my eyes when she said that falling for Ashton made her feel like a teen wanting to be loved, liked. That tells you who she was inside.
Demi grew in a dysfunctional family and suffered abuse, topping that with having a physical problem (strabismus) which can lead to being bullied at school, and mess with your self esteem. After that,during her marriage, they had fertility issues.
Personally, I identify a little with Demi because I had an alcoholic parent, suffer from strabismus my whole life and couldn’t conceive in my marriage. That alone messes a lot with your head. She really needed help and it is sad that she relapsed into addiction before tackling her issues.
He was a douche and should have been mature enough to let the relationship go before hurting her so much, especially if he wanted biological children. It is not like he did not know her vulnerabilities. I still think he is not an all around bad person. I remember them twitter-teaming to support good causes, and he was a good parent to her daughters. I loathe that he is helping the scientology abuser, tho.
I rolled my eyes at her antics (like trying to get Lenny’s attention), but she was heavily into drugs, I am sorry of what I used to think about her. I see her as a survivor and look forward to reading her book.
It’s not simplistic. It’s LITERALLY what she said herself.
Agreed V.👍👍
Kutcher is being reamed from all sides by Demi’s memoirs, but is obligated to stay silent.
I mean even Jon Cryer, responded, though her story about him was somewhat positive.
I’m bemused by the gushing she does for Willis, as it was known while they were in Idaho, how much of a cheating tomcat Bruce was. Their daughters were apparently sweet though.
Have you read Demi’s book? Yeah she isn’t exactly gushing over Bruce Willis in it. And he doesn’t come across as a faithful husband.
It would be a clever strategy if Ashton’s “reply” tweets made sense. They were kind of all over the place. Anyway, I think Demi put Ashton in a hard place with her self-professed “neediness” but he always struck me as a douche. I remember his ex-girlfriends (Brittnay Murphy and January Jones etc) saying not so nice things about him.
RIP Brittany. I liked her acting.
Well, I have to agree that Ashton wasn’t responsible for her substance abuse issues. He may have cheated, but no one can keep you from drinking or drugging if you want to go there–I never thought they were a good match anyway. I don’t condone the way he treated her, but it’s over now and she has healed and written her book–now everyone can move on. If I were her, I personally wouldn’t want to write a tell-all to the world.
I don’t know — I admire him using the attention from all of this to shine a light on an important cause. Good for him. Demi certainly has the right to tell her story, but I find this memoir/tell-all publicity tour kind of icky.
Did he not give out his number once before and was that not a scam where he took peoples’ data? I don’t think making yourself look charitable while enriching yourself is particularly admirable.
Ashton cares about deflecting from his bad behavior. That is all
Yeah, I still think he’s a douche but this was a decent move. Act like you’re going to spill tea and instead spread actual information about something important. Like a broken clock that is right twice a day, he gets a nod from me on this one.
I thought her entries made it clear that she was reflecting on the mistakes she made in her own marriage and the bad choices to which she consented because of her own issues. Considering the woman had A Life, I’m fairly certain that part of what she’s addressing is how we need to be self-aware of how our pasts inform our present. That he cheated on her is an open secret at this point. You don’t get to complain about the mistakes you made in the past when you did so publicly and sloppily and leveraged your marriage for that greater fame in the first place.
I’m sure he’s grown from his mistakes. They both have. But if you have to look at your wife and kids before thinking twice about running your mouth on Twitter about the ex you wronged, you’re not as mature as you think you are. Sometimes the best statement is silence. I’m glad he turned the attention to something more important, but he needs to get over himself. Celebrity always comes at a cost. Everybody knows this.
+1
Agree with all of this. She seems like she’s gone through a lot of self-discovery and is sharing what she’s learned. I can’t believe how many people are caping for Ashton Kutcher.
*Ashton has blocked me on Twitter* I kinda need to know how this happened and then go and do it too, Kaiser.
Lainey also had an article up with a link to show that number he tweeted out is linked to data mining, so yeah douche gonna douche, I guess.
Demi has the right to tell her story from her view. We all have our baggage and history.
She might have the ‘right’ but I have never discussed intimate details of my relationships with anyone else and I have a very low opinion of people who do. Unless there has been a crime or an abuse, not just he/she made me unhappy, then keep it to yourself or at the very least don’t try to make money out of it.
Hmm, women should stay silent about discussing their relationships unless they involve something you consider “a crime or an abuse.”
Amazed by how so many here just want women to shut up.
And amazed that so many hand wringing over the very existence of celebrity memoirs are partaking on a site called celebitchy.
@Tourmaline: That’s the weirdest part of it to me – the loving to hear and discuss all kinds of personal rumors about women we don’t know, but pearl-clutching when they voluntarily share personal info.
Okay- where does Jellybean say that only women shouldn’t discuss their past relationships? You guys have decent enough points without needing to twist other people’s comments- it just takes away from what you’re trying to say when we see deliberate inaccuracies like that.
OMG what a weak comeback. He is so lame. This lame douche and his criminal pal Masterson totally ruined That 70’s show for me.
It’s a weak comeback because there is no comeback. He WAS awful. That’s just reality. The best thing he can do is keep his mouth shut. Hey it’s worked for making most people forget that both he and Mila have (allegedly) continued to hang out with (alleged) multiple rapist Danny Masterson. So it’s a good plan.
Honestly there’s just no need for Ashton Kutcher. He’s made a lot of money, he can go away now.
Yup.
Damn. How sad to be a woman as accomplished and beautiful as Demi Moore was at 40 and to let some little rusty butt Hollywood newb neg you and influence you to break your sobriety and all this other BS she’s sharing. It makes Ashton look bad, yes, but it makes her look terrible.
Oh yes, women who are products of abuse, are vulnerable, and have abysmal self-esteem are definitely more terrible than the narcissistic men who exploit those vulnerabilities.
Those horrible broken women, how dare they!
Vulnerability doesn’t mean you’re not responsible for your own actions and choices. I feel for her, I do, but she walked herself right into that fire.
This. And I’m here to say that these comments feel flooded by people that are strangely pro-Ashton or anti-Demi… what’s going on here? I’ve been reading this blog for at least 10 years and I don’t get what’s going on in these comments.
@Heylee Me either. This feels like 4chan all of a sudden lol
Totally agree. Some of the comments on this post and the post from yesterday are so gross. I do not get the hate for Demi. She is sharing her story while acknowledging her mistakes. What Ashton did to her was shitty at best and borderline abusive at worst. She deserves some sympathy.
@Heylee I agree. I don’t usually comment but I’ve been reading this blog for years. The comments are really freaking icky today.
For me, so much of this is about the age difference and the original power imbalance. I still can’t get over that she ever married him or ever developed serious feelings for Kelso from That 70’s Show. A twenty-something kid from Iowa. He should’ve been a toy to her at most, nothing more. If anyone can explain how this could happen, maybe I could understand her viewpoint- as it is, I keep thinking she should’ve known better. Not that I don’t still feel bad for her, I do, but it’s not like he was slick or savvy in any way so how did she walk into this?
THIS. Esp. one user sounds like Ashton’s publicist. Or Ashton himself…
I totally understand that we’re on a gossip site here and everyone has opinions, that’s the point. But that kind of intensity usually means someone’s either a fan or something’s very personal for a commenter. It just makes me suspicious. If Kaiser is blocked by Kutcher, she’s on his radar for some reason. And the site probably as well. Just saying. But maybe Ashton Kutcher superfans exist, what do I know?!
Lol at Ashton Kutcher superfans. But you have an interesting point about Kaiser being on his radar…
All these years and Ashton has never said a negative thing about Demi. I am sure he has major dirt on her but he’s kept it private. It’s easy to want to call him a douche or whatever but the truth always lies somewhere in between. Demi is not innocent in any of this either.
👊👏 And as some posters observed yesterday, if Ashton were to do a kiss’n’ tell, there would be zero sympathetic analysis.
He would be eviscerated!
I agree. I’m not defending him either, he acts like a douchebag. But Demi chose to marry him, a much younger guy, and now blab about it publicly. It’s gross. What happened between them is between the two of them, and this is only her side of the story. Now he has every right to tell his side if he wants. I’m sure he’s got lots of dirt on her too, let’s see if he’s more dignified and can keep it in.
@me
We get it you Stan Ashton
But no the truth is not “always” somewhere in between
Anc there is NOTHING wrong with Demi writing an autobiography
In another 15 Ashton probably will too
I heard a saying recently that if you don’t want someone to write terrible things about you in their memoir, then treat people well.
Bingo.
Right. Also I laugh at the fact that if many of these posters were to have their way no one (or is it just no woman?) would ever be allowed to write an autobiography. I for one have enjoyed and learned from many autobiographies of women, including those that cover their personal lives.
But let’s scorn women who do so for “blabbing” and saying unflattering truths about the men in their lives. Shut up, women, there are two sides to every story!
He’s not shining light on anything though. It’s literally the trending story on both news and social media.
It’s a shady deflection, an attempt to be above it all.
I mean whatever. He doesn’t owe us an explanation for his marriage.
idk it sounds like a toxic relationship all around. While he shouldn’t have cheated on her, I have no problems thinking a 25-year-old male model-cum-actor who is closer in age to your teenage daughters would not have the proper maturity level to be with a woman like Demi. She was also using drugs and drinking during their dating and married life and that may have been hard on him too. I’m not trying to make excuses but people are really going after him hard for this.
Right, and as far as I remember her daughters got along really well with him.
He proved he’s an ass by posting a picture of hers.
Yes, he was young. And stupid. Maybe she didn’t tell him she was uncomfortable with 3somes (she admits it was a secret shame). At the end of the day, he cheated on her repeatedly. And they were together 8 years, and had tabloid covers dedicated to his mistress’ stories, so that period would go in her memoir. If he said nothing, this would have blown over already. No one is name checking Bruce who also cheated and “did whatever he wanted” in their marriage and expected her to stay home and make babies. That story is just as gross.
Yep. I have read the book and found the Bruce stuff a lot more surprising. But I’m sure he will say nothing and it will not get traction in the media. But of course bratty Ashton wouldn’t do the same.
What exactly is Ashton disputing in the book anyway? It was extensively documented while events were happening that he was a big cheater. For as much as she covers that, she talks about how much she loved and adored Ashton, he got along great with her daughters, he made her very happy at times. She says positive stuff about each of her husbands. The idea that Demi should be worried Ashton would dish dirt on her is laughable having read the book—she is very transparent in discussing her bad decisions, flaws, and struggles.
as far as I know, he hasn’t disputed anything. he’s not responding to any reaches for comment concerning Demi, just talking about this Ukraine thing.
Ashton posted a picture of her butt.
Then said if you want the truth to text him.
Bruce is all crickets.
I have a good message he could leave: “I am an asshole. The stuff with Mila will come out way later. See ya.”
lol. Yup.
And I’d like to add, what woman ever got away with the excuse, “Well, she was young and immature.” Like, never? Dude (or dud) was over 21. Enough said.
We’re women at 16. They’re boys or “young men” until 40.
40??!!?? Girl they never grow up…
My opinion is that Demi was gaslighted and is still gaslit. Ashton Kutcher is a piece of s**t and these responses just show what a aging POS he is. Nothing will ever make me side with him, feel empathy for him or agree with him. Some people are just awful. He is one of them. Why hasn’t he gone away for good?
“Nothing will ever make me side with him, feel empathy for him or agree with him”
I mean, that’s fine? But you don’t (I assume) know him personally. Nothing will ever make you agree with him though? Do you not think that he’s done some good work with human trafficking? And no, that doesn’t absolve him from bad behavior at all – but to say you’ll never agree with him no matter what is just silly.
And he kind of had gone away? I mean, he’s only being talked about because of the memoir.
Exactly. When people make broad blanket statements like this I cant take anything they say seriously. Because these rules only seem to apply to celebs they don’t actually know. They dont apply them to people in their lives or even themselves.
if you hobnob with rapists from scientology – whatever you do for human trafficking doesn’t mean shit…
@Lizzie: That brings up another interesting thing too. When women have allowed connections to problematic or predatory men, their activism – whether it involves human trafficking or any other issue- is rendered fake or invalid.
I can’t wait to read her book and she has an absolute right to tell her stories. We all know Ashton was a cheater (and was and always has been a douche) and his responses just prove that. Also, Wired had an article saying that this phone number thing was a way for Ashton to engage in data mining. Another douchey move. https://www.wired.com/story/ashton-kutcher-tweeted-phone-number/
He slept with one of Rumors 21 year old friend’s he met at a bowling party for Rumor. Demi should have kicked his a** to the curb then.
We still have so far to go in dismantling the patriarchy…
So very far
All I can see is dollar signs.
Didn’t he treat January Jones like shit too?
Yes. And Brittany Murphy.
“Occam’s razor” used in a blog post. This is why you’re my favorite!
He’s bitter, because she’s a Hollywood legend who is probably making bank from this memoir and will eventually be the subject of big-budget biopics long after she’s gone, while he has done nothing of interest to merit a memoir other than dating her, and he will just be a footnote in Hollywood history as one of her toyboys 😂
Listen Im not an Ashton fan. I think he’s an a-hole. But the dude started an organization that literally saved nearly 6,000 kids from sex trafficking. Like yes Demi is a Hollywood icon. No one is disputing that. But let’s put things into perspective here. People can be bad partners and not be bad people. People are very rarely all one thing. Life is a bit more complex than that.
After reading yesterday’s comments I got to the conclusion that women give a pass to every man they find attractive.
Yes, Demi Moore married a much younger and inexperienced man but that doesn’t mean he wasn’t awful to her.
Lol. If that was the conclusion you took away from yesterday’s thread then you weren’t actually listening to what was being said. PS – Ashton isnt cute. Never has been IMO.
I was referring to the comments about her “airing her dirty laundry”, as if writing memoirs and telling your side of the story is wrong.
And I agree, I never found Ashton cute but many do.
Ashton has his own story, I’m sure and I can’t help but wonder if his work with sex trafficking isn’t partially informed by his marriage to Demi and the hardships she’s been through.
Reflection and introspection is difficult and painful. We see in this book that it was for Demi but she did the work to save herself, to try to salvage her relationship with her daughters, to avoid hopefully carrying the same mistakes into the next relationship.
Ashton may not be interested in doing that work for himself. It hurts to look back at a difficult place in your past and dismantle the blame or honestly asses your own behaviour. And if his relationships with his family and friends isn’t suffering, then why should he?
When I read some of the excerpts of her book I was thinking how great it would be if both her x’s released kind, support, mature yet opaque responses. Something Like ‘she’s a wonderful woman who has had great ups and downs. I’m happy we had time together and I wish her great love and happiness.” Bruce certainly seems to have been supportive by showing up. It’s really too bad that Ashton has to act like such a dumbass. I thought it was pretty neat when Demi married him. Not anything personal about either of them but I loved the hot older woman/hot younger dude angle. But Kaiser, you nailed it. Once a douche, always a douche. Why can’t Ashton just be grateful for where he in his life now?? So cheap & unnecessary to hit out at Demi. He had a chance right now to actually look like a great guy or at least a guy that has grown up from who he was in her book but he blew it. He can’t even pretend to be mature. So much for life as an ‘actor.’ Whatta Douche.
It’s a knee-jerk reaction to defending yourself.
I don’t see a damn thing wrong w what Demi is doing. He did what he did. I never thought I’d cheat, I did and it was a big mistake. That being said, if you get blasted for it, you get blasted for it. I remember him cheating on her. He’s a celebrity, take the bad w the good. It was a long time ago but he did do it and she has the right to speak about it. He did it, it’s not her responsibility to protect him. Gtfoh w that.
I don’t know much about Ashton. I like him in the Ranch and always thought he was cute.
My impression of Demi was that she seemed to really crave attention and thought she was kind of a nut. I loved her early films though. It is hard to care for someone more than they care for you so I feel for her in the situation.
I def think she is looking for more attention. Why share all the dirty laundry? It is the past and he has kids.
It’s called a memoir. They generally require you sharing your dirty laundry.
Just running by to say “I never liked him”, which I didn’t and I’m glad to see my judgment was on point.
I always thought he was a douche too, but I don’t think Mila would put up with any of any that. She seems like a very strong and confident woman. So I think he isn’t like that around her. Unfortunately Demi wasn’t strong and confident (actually she was desperate) with Ashton so he did what he wanted to.
I respectfully disagree. Ashton is a douche, yes. But just because Mila is “strong and confident” doesn’t mean he won’t pull the same stunts on her. He will be more discreet, maybe. But his behaviour was not Demi’s fault, and he’s unlikely to change.
Sometimes it’s better not to respond and let the story die. All she really did was confirm what the gossip sites have already said about their marriage.
sassbr says: “Why does he have to apologize to the public for something that happened in a private relationship?”
He doesn’t but he should acknowledge his very public behavior in never defending her when all the humiliating stories came out was bad behavior. Bruce Willis never hide the fact he was cheating on her all throughout the marriage but there’s no doubt he otherwise treated Demi with a lot of love and respect.
Ashton is not a bright person; he got lucky with some tech investing and the fact he’s tight with Adam Neumann might further confirm his douchebag status. Also I can’t stand HW celebs who go around grandstanding on Very Important Issues affecting the global south and other countries for their own benefit. What difference is he really going to make for the Ukraine people?
Other than that, biographies have replaced the novel. Before novels were captured by the fiction professionals and critics as a way to explore and demonstrate their metafiction, etc, etc techniques, it was a real mainstream cultural phenomenon, highly accessible in format rather than filled with “groundbreaking” literary techniques to impress the profession, owned by the masses, for the masses, that allowed you to imagine the other, to enter the skin of another person and become more empathetic and imaginative, and often with some entertainment value. Now perhaps biographies of famous people are filling that void to a degree.
I’d love it if we could stop accusing women of not being “classy.” Demi Moore is a sexual abuse survivor, abuse sanctioned by her own mother, and then spent a lifetime with substance use, intimacy and sexual boundary issues that she’s currently owning in a really honest way. The aftermath of abuse is incredibly messy and usually not too “classy.” That’s a word that encourages silence and shame around issues we need to bring out into the open.
Very good point, Looseseal! I’d like “lady like” to be canceled as well.
Whatever other issues people are having with Demi’s memoir, I applaud her for telling the story of the horrible abuse she endured as a child. That takes so much courage. Her mom let a man pay to rape Demi when Demi was 15! My heart hurts for her. I remember the anxiety and fear I felt when I told a support group about being sexually abused as a child. I can’t imagine talking about it on television or publishing it in a memoir for the world to read. She is extremely brave. I hope that unburdening herself in this way helps her to find peace.
PS- I love your name! I’d like to give you a hand for it 👏🏽 😉
No matter how smart and political he is, still a douche.