We talk about this a lot in the latest episode of Gossip With Celebitchy (the one that’s out today, #32): the letter the Duchess of Sussex sent her father, Toxic Thomas Markle, about three months after her wedding. It’s important to keep in mind the timeline – Thomas Markle had organized photoshoots (then lied about them) before Meghan’s wedding. He was rude AF to Harry on the phone. He faked a heart attack to avoid the wedding. And then he spent months ranting and raving to media outlets about how Meghan and Harry were terrible people for not contacting him. Thomas Markle was still lying about whether Meghan had contacted him for months after he received her letter. Which is why that People Magazine cover story in February was so important: Meg’s friends revealed the existence and substance of Meghan’s letter, and that was what baited Thomas to sell the letter to the Mail on Sunday.
The existence of the letter exposed Thomas’s lies, and it also humanized Meghan – she had been in contact, she had tried to tell her dad what he needed to do to be in her life, contrary to all of the sh-t he had been saying for months. By exposing Meghan’s letter, Thomas exposed himself. And the kicker was that as soon as he sold the letter to the Mail on Sunday, Meghan contacted her lawyers and they began working on the lawsuit, which just got filed last week. The whole thing was orchestrated by Meghan brilliantly, and I say that with utter respect. She knew her dad was and is trash. She knew he wouldn’t be able to stop selling her out again, so she played him, and she played the media. But Toxic Tom still wants to say words and act pitiful. No one’s buying it. Toxic Tom ran to the Mail yet again to tell “his side” of why he sold her letter to the Mail.
He never intended to make the letter public: The Duchess of Sussex’s estranged father has told how he kept her controversial letter secret for six months, never intending to make it public. But he felt he was forced to release some of its details when her friends ‘misrepresented’ its contents to an American magazine. Thomas Markle received the handwritten five-page missive via FedEx from Meghan’s Los Angeles business manager Andrew Meyer in August 2018. Deeply hurt, he vowed to keep it private.
Why he released the letter: ‘I decided to release parts of the letter because of the article from Meghan’s friends in People magazine. I have to defend myself. I only released parts of the letter because other parts were so painful. The letter didn’t seem loving to me. I found it hurtful.’ Mr Markle, who lives in Rosarito, Mexico, said he was ‘devastated’ when the existence of the letter was made public. He is also angered by false claims that he asked for and received payment for releasing parts of the letter.
Meghan didn’t even ask how he was doing in the letter: Mr Markle was deeply hurt his daughter did not use her letter to enquire how he was doing after his heart attacks. ‘There was no loving message in there, nothing asking about my health, nothing from her saying, “Let’s get together and heal our differences.” When I opened the letter I was hoping it was the olive branch I’d longed for. I was expecting something that would be a pathway to reconciliation. Instead it was deeply hurtful. I was so devastated I couldn’t show it to anyone – and never would have, had it not been for the People magazine piece which meant I had to release portions to defend myself.’ Mr Markle still hopes a reconciliation with his daughter is possible: ‘I don’t recognise the person who wrote the letter but I still love my daughter. All it would take is one phone call and most of this craziness would stop.’
“The Duchess of Sussex’s estranged father has told how he kept her controversial letter secret for six months, never intending to make it public…” Yeah, we know. If he kept it private, he could continue to give interview after interview about how Meghan had FAILED TO CONTACT HIM. That was his story for months and months, even after he got the letter – that he had not heard one word from Meghan. He was keeping the letter private because he found it more profitable to lie about her. Plus, the content of the letter shows how Meghan was incredibly hurt by Thomas’s words and actions. If he revealed the letter, people might have sympathy for HER because of his unhinged, toxic and nasty behavior.
Also: the Mail continues to say that they’re not paying Thomas for these interviews. I’d be curious to know how much they’re paying him to license all of the personal photos they use in these articles though.
MAIL ON SUNDAY: Meghan’s Dad: why I shared ‘hurtful’ letter #TomorrowsPapersToday pic.twitter.com/9U9u7skDwh
— Neil Henderson (@hendopolis) October 5, 2019
Photos courtesy of Avalon Red, WENN and The Sun.
God he’s just such trash. But the people enabling him are even worse somehow.
Yes. And worst of the worst, Piss Morgan. Can they not sue him for something? Harassment? Maybe even sexual harassment? If he made any sexual offers to her at their meeting/date, surely his behaviour afterwards would constitute sexual harassment?
I’d love to send him to space or something. Just boot him out of the planet.
My god yes! He’s the absolute worst!! Meghan “unfriending” him (or whatever) seems to have unleashed the worst in him. Get a grip dude, you’re not that important! I cringe every time I see his ugly mug on the Daily Fail. He sounds like a creep that was dumped by his girlfriend and is badmouthing her to all his friends.
I so agree. He may be unbalanced yet people keep giving him airtime. They are much to blame. He is toxic old news. Wish he’d go to a canteena and drink some tequila and be quiet.
And that’s what I thought at first. I figured he was a mess of a human but not ‘bad’ or ‘evil’, but he quickly proved me wrong.
@Amy, my heart breaks for you. I have a friend whose mother is the same way, and my ex treats our child this way. He gaslights her regularly, and we have a no-contact, domestic violence restraining order. My kid is afraid of interaction with her father. He does the same kinds of things.
Many people don’t want the trouble of dealing with a nice person who has a mentally ill, dangerous person following them around. If you’ve been fired from jobs because of your mother, she is dangerous. I’m sorry, but my ex tried to get me fired multiple times, said that I SOLD drugs, and he eventually knocked our kid out cold. I didn’t believe in ghosting people out of my life or in restraining orders until I was in the same situation as you are in. Whether it’s an ex, a parent, a sibling, some things aren’t curable, and it isn’t our job to save the mentally ill around us, and I have chosen my kid’s life over the mentally ill version of co-parenting. All we can do is support legislation that helps treat people like our relatives.
Sending you support and hoping that you can maintain some peace in your life. Even when boundaries are firmly in place, it’s just a matter of time before they strike again. All we can do is maintain boundaries until the next bombshell of bottomless, dangerous, unhealthy narcissistic supply is demanded from the mentally ill person. It’s been hard for my teen to cut off her dad, but she is so much happier.
I really, really hate him. The way he spins everything to make her out to be the villain is so gross.
He reminds me of my borderline mother. She has no respect for boundaries, lashes out in horribly hurtful ways, and then if you respond with boundaries, ignoring her, or trying to explain why what she does/says is hurtful or inappropriate, she cries about how hurt she is and how much everyone hates her and how she just wants to have a relationship with her “little girl.” The guilt tripping is epic and so damaging. She’s also very good at manipulating relatives, family friends, doctors, and even therapists into believing that she is just a poor, sweet, neglected mother who is just very worried about her children and yet they spurn her affections for no reason at all. She will remember everything she has ever done for you or bought you (even things like clothes and food as a child) and claim that you’re an ungrateful brat for not considering these things as transactional: as in, because she raised me and bought me birthday gifts and school clothes as a child, I am now required to put up with anything and everything she does and says, no matter how hurtful or inappropriate.
The only way to deal with these types of people is to create and maintain very strict boundaries. If you’re unable to do that because it’s just not working, then you have to cut off all contact, which is extremely difficult to do because you feel like you’re effectively killing off your own parent. There have been many periods of time when I’ve had to cut all contact for months at a time. It was hard and I sympathize with Meghan who has had to cut contact for an even longer period of time. When I would cut contact, my mother would try to get to me through friends and relatives, doctors and therapists, my school and work, my husband and even my child. Always telling some horrible made up story about how I was using drugs or suicidal or mentally ill and she was just extremely worried about me and needed to check up on me for my own safety. She considered these lies to be acceptable because she “just really needed to see me,” and the ends would justify the means. I’ve been fired from jobs because she would just show up looking for me and would tell my boss I was a drug addict and needed the help of my mother. If I were famous, she absolutely would have given interviews to the press to try to get to me.
I have heard that some people “grow out of” being borderline, and that it’s most common and most difficult to deal with in people age 16-30, but my mother isn’t growing out of it, and it doesn’t seem like Toxic Tom is either.
@Amy, I’ve never heard of anyone growing out of being borderline. It’s a personality disorder, and personality disorders are the diagnosis that people are the least likely to get help for, and the least likely to change over time.
@Amy, sorry that I replied to the wrong comment.
@Amy – my mother and sister were borderlines so I totally sympathize with you. Growing up was hell in my household, my dad was a saint to put up with them. Mr. Jaded’s ex-wife is also borderline so between my family and his ex I’ve had to do a lot of research on how to deal with these people. Unfortunately symptoms can worsen over time, especially going through and post-menopause, unless you get therapy, something none of them would do.
Thomas Markle is clearly at the narcissistic end of the borderline spectrum and has no sense of remorse or empathy, he is utterly self-obsessed and living in a fantasy world. You are correct, the only way to deal with these people is to cut them out of your life. I wish you all the best and hang in there!
@Jenner, people can overcome borderline PD with dialectical behavioral therapy and other approaches. With DBT, many patients no longer meet the criteria for BPD. They learn to regulate their emotions. This doesn’t mean they no longer have any BPD traits, but they have progressed enough to no longer meet the DSM’s criteria for borderline. To do this, one would need to be willing to get help and find a therapist qualified to help. Marsha Linehan is the pioneer behind DBT, and she has BPD herself. I fell in love with a man with uBPD years ago, and though I’m now married, I’m still not over that experience. I suspect my mother has BPD as well, and I have C-PTSD as a result of my upbringing. I do not think most BPDs change, but I don’t want anyone with BPD to feel like they can’t overcome this disorder either. This disorder has been very stigmatized, but the people who have it really are suffering and suffered as children. There also appears to be a genetic component. The brains of people with BPD are different from those without it. And some of them are sensitive, funny, creative people. They have lots of great qualities in addition to having this horrible disorder. My mother was so cruel that I feel indifferent to her now, but I still love my ex with BPD and hope by some miracle that he has overcome this terrible condition.
Hopefully this ends up in the right space. Thanks for the kind words, everyone. Growing up and living with my mother was definitely the worst. It’s much easier to deal with her now that I have my own family and household. She’s not showing up at my jobs anymore, for instance.
It also doesn’t seem to me that people would grow out of the personality disorder, so maybe I was interpreting what I read incorrectly. Maybe it’s either more likely for people to be diagnosed at those ages (teen-30 years old), or maybe when the studies were conducted there just weren’t that many older people who held the actual diagnosis even though they probably had the disorder, or maybe symptoms are just worse at those ages and lead to more reckless or dangerous behavior that puts these people in contact with professionals who diagnosis them.
Thomas Markle is a bitter maggot. I don’t believe he’s unbalanced; he’s nasty and vindictive, and just arrogant enough to believe that some will buy his “grieved father” act. He’s odious, but look what happened. He’s (in)famous for being a spiteful twat. His vile and baseless rants bring in revenue for rags like the Mail on Sunday, who are happy to pay him for his pitiful drivel. ”He never intended to make the letter public”. Yet…he did exactly that.
I thought the letter would expose him too. But no: the haters are hating like she was the one to be blamed for writting that letter. And the quantity of haters is significant. Unless it’s him and Sammy with many names and e-mails; from those two I believe anything and everything. Yes, he lied. A lot. He didn’ t do anything else since he saw the chance to be rich and famous be destroyed by Harry. He will do whatever takes to hurt them. Greediness is a very dangerous trait of a personality.
Meghan set a brilliant trap and Thomas & Dailymail fell into it.
She writes him a letter, gets her friends to hunt about the letter, the media then picks it up and gets it from Thomas, media as usual then twists and attacks Meghan with selective portion of the letter and then checkmate. Meghan now has her court case.
This man is so full of cr@p it spills from his ears.
He abandoned his family and was a horrid father until his daughter became a potential source of fame and income.
Anyone who enables his cruelty is condoning abuse.
Meghan is a remarkable woman who has worked hard, treated people well and given back with grace and intelligence.
Her father and his extended family are leeches. By giving them oxygen, the tabloids teach other people how to abuse for fun and profit. Vile and disgustingly wrong.
Hear hear!!!
I have so much admiration and respect for Meghan for being able to become so successful and generous and seem so genuinely optimistic and happy, despite having to deal with a parent like Tom. I have a mother like Tom, and it seriously affected my life, my mental well being, and my ability to know what healthy relationships (parent-child, friend, romantic) were supposed to look like. I made some stupid choices as a teen and young adult in a desperate attempt to find a way to just get away from her and to deal with the depression I was experiencing.
Amy Too — So sorry for what you had to endure.
Me too Amy, but the longer you are out of contact the better it will become for you. Wishing you the best.
He’s such trash and a narcissist. “I’ve been talking shit and selling her out for months and never once did she ask in that letter how I was doing after my fake heart attack.”
This was brilliant of her, forcing him to publish that letter and it clearly worked because his ego was bruised after that People article.
Yeah and he only released parts of that letter because he knew the rest would expose him as the liar he is.
“I acted out horrifically in a way that caused extremely negative consequences for you, and I also didn’t care at all how it made you feel or affected you, but by enforcing appropriate boundaries you made me sad, and now you don’t even have the heart to care about my sads! Boo hoo!”
I feel so bad for Meghan. I cannot imagine being betrayed like this by a narcissistic parent in front of the world. She has been through at lot but his betrayal would cut the deepest if it were me. I really hope she’s going to therapy to work through all of this cause it has to be traumatic. As for her father, he’s a piece of sh*t I hope he rots in h*ll. He’s a narcissist who will never admit he’s wrong and Meghan has every right to cut him out of her life. He keeps saying “one phone call and this would all stop” made my skin crawl. He’s probably working with MoS to tape her phone call. I’m glad she hasn’t called him yet. Hopefully she never does.
As an adult child of a Narc Parent that ‘one call’ ish is all about power. It’s about re-establishing that he reigns supreme over her peace.
He knows what going AWOL around the time of her wedding did to her and still did not care. He knows that going to the press to gaslight her through the very people who tear her to shreds on a daily basis and he still does not care.
He knows that the other daughter and his toxic son have behaved appallingly towards Meghan and has never publicly denounced them, rather he has actually excused their behavior.
The whole Markle clan, the media and certain members of the RF have stuck their knives in her back at a time of joy (incl pregnancy) and she has had to carry on. Betrayal like that lives with you.
This man is truly toxic and regardless of media manipulation appears irredeemable. Meg needs to forget she ever had a father and never allow this man around Archie.
I’m sure the only way he’ll ever see Archie is through their Instagram like the rest of us. Thank god Meghan has one parent who isn’t complete trash. I wouldn’t wish a parent like him on my worst enemy. No one deserves the pain of parent only out for themselves and I’m sorry you had to deal with that.
@Migionette, I’m so sorry. Sorry for you, Amy Too, my child. ❤️
I meant sorry for Amy and sorry for my child who also has a narcissistic dad.
@Christina thank you <3
Thanks to you, Migionette, and Jaded, and Amy Too, and everyone who lives through this. I am grateful for my friend, Diedra, who told me about this blog long ago. You guys and the Duchess of Sussex give me hope for my child’s future.
The whole purpose of this interview is to lay the MoS defence. First off – “her friends brought up the letter so it was in the Public Interest to print this” (copyright doesn’t apply to Public Interest from what I’ve read) and secondly “Toxic Tom edited the letter not us – quote ‘ I decided to release parts of the letter…’ so it’s not our fault we are innocent”. I hope she cleans them out.
You are so right. I thought it was really weird for him to specify he only released extracts of the letter.
I hope she’ll win this case.
I will say this again for the umpteenth time. How do we know that the friends ever really spoke to People Mag about the letter and since when did they become a reliable source.
Rather I suspect the MoS made up the quotes and released them to People who ran with anything Royal, thereby allowing the MoS to appear to counter the alleged disclosure of her friends by printing excerpts of the letter.
They likely felt that would buy them out of jail in the event of a copyright strike. Also consider this before a claim is filed English law requires some sort of attempt to settle the issue post Clementi. That has all happened in the background so I suspect the MoS have stonewalled the Sussexes to drag out this saga for clicks,,,,
Genuine question: one of the points in Meghan’s favour for this lawsuit was that the Mail only published parts of the letter and thus changed the meaning. Do you think the fact that Thomas is now saying he “only released portions” could HELP the Mail i.e. they could argue that they only published the parts to which they had access from Thomas, not that they purposely didn’t publish it all?
Ugh, that’s an awful (and probably TRUE) thought.
Meghan own the copyright to the letter, it was published without her permission.
Yes, that is the overarching argument which I understand this does not affect, but there are other aspects of the lawsuit which I was wondering if they could be affected by this. As per Harry’s own statement:
“In addition to [the media’s] unlawful publication of this private document, they purposely misled you by **strategically omitting select paragraphs, specific sentences, and even singular words ** to mask the lies they had perpetuated for over a year.”
It’s unclear if Thomas omitted singular words, but I bet based on his statement he “omitt[ed] select paragraphs” at the very least.
Amy,
Those allegations are even worse for the Daily Mail because they are confessing that they didn’t receive permission from Meghan nor did they check to see if the content was accurate. Thomas could have written that letter himself and said it was from Meghan.
The Daily Mail is throwing crap at the wall and hoping something sticks. The new tactic I’ve seen today from the British press is Meghan may want to drop the lawsuit because her dad and friends will have to testify. I believe Meghan is well-informed about what may or may not happen. She will not be deterred by threats.
They’re also gleeful about Meghan and/or Harry maybe having to testify, and it will “force a meeting” between them and Toxic Tom in court. SMDH. A$$wipes!
Lmfao I mean…..duh? The mail brought him in to lay their legal defense for him. I doubt he actually even said anything, they probably pre-wrote all of this and had him sign off on it.
No. Publishing parts of the letter actually works against them. Especially if it becomes clear that doing so furthered a narrative or agenda. Either use the defence in ‘good faith’ or not. No half measures.
Also @Amy it is a maxim of English law that those who come to equity must come with ‘clean hands’. The slightest whiff of impropriety from the MoS will scupper their case. This is why they lose so often. Their legal fees are often factored as a risk into the advertising revenue generated from running a high profile story like this.
It would be really bad for the MoS to let this go to trial. The Sussexes lawyers have considered all possible contingencies, and even the thought of them going to trial and facing Thomas there is something they can manage. After all, the Sussexes have nothing to hide, and the MoS have everything to hide. I read somewhere that Harry and Meghan believe (rightly) that the MoS targeted and groomed her father, and if that comes out, it makes the MoS look even worse. Even if they didn’t pay Toxic Tom for the letter, they most certainly have paid him for pictures and some, if not all, interviews. They would have to open their books to the court, Thomas’s lies about his heart attacks would come out, and phone records would show the contact between Thomas and the MoS. Remember the lie that the Sussexes would Honeymoon in Canada? Most of us think that was a test of Sussexes to see if they could trust Thomas. That would likely come out as well. I’ll bet on a quiet settlement. The tabloids have too much to lose–open court will simply show all of the toxic, unethical, and possibly criminal things the tabloids did to get info on the Sussexes, and would likely spark another press inquiry that could stymie their own business model.
@Lanne agreed. Thomas would come across as a HORRIBLE witness in general and a HORRIBLE father in the court of public opinion when it transpires what a horrible father he is.
This is likely one of the reasons it took so long to decide to action the issue. They likely decided to reason with Tom via Lawyers before realising he was irredeemable.
That is a tough decision for any daughter to make. But when you have a new born baby son, self preservation and protection becomes the name of the game.
Can the MoS force a settlement? I got the impression that Harry and Meghan are taking this all the way, to expose the daily’s sleazy journalism and law breaking. The whole country will know how they operate after this court case.
I think H&M will take it all the way to court to expose MoS dubious practices….
So what Toxic Tom is saying is that he cut up into pieces Meghan’s letter to him and only sent certain paragraphs/sentences to MoS? Really? Not as believeable as him sending the entire 5 page letter and MoS selecting what they published….
I’d love to see him in court and be the un-doing of MoS after all they have paid him LOL!
He was hoping she’d just brush his behavior under the rug and never call him out for it, and let him walk all over her boundaries, anything less than that will not be considered an olive branch or path to reconciliation. Even though she said if he stopped talking to the press, they could try to repair the relationship. Psych classes should include this guy in their lessons on narcissism.
I feel so sorry for Meghan. How can anyone be okay after what her family and the press has put her through?
I need to offer a moment of clarity. What is happening to Meghan is awful, but I believe that she has the resources and support to get through this. Her biggest challenges will be healing from the betrayal and not letting detractors steal her joy.
The truth is that millions of people around the world are estranged from their families. It’s not as uncommon as people like to think. Family members abusing and hurting one another is not new. Most people just don’t talk about it.
I am estranged from my family, so I understand to a certain extent what Meghan is going through. I can’t imagine going through what I have and having a national press corps scapegoating me as well.
@M & @Claire, Yes. I’m also estranged from family. It’s an ever-losing situation. I’m so sad and appalled for Meghan. It’s difficult to feel proud of yourself when you also feel that you are shunning your parent. It’s complicated more when your parent is ill/indigent.
I’m so happy whenever I see her with and remember she has lovely mom Doria. 🍀Duchess 👸 Meg is super smart. Maybe she has been seeking therapy about this toxic father figure for a long time and is well aware of the value and has a great relationship with a counselor already. Toxic Tom indeed
I agree Claire. It’s horrible how this has been publicized and used as a way to hurt Meghan. I think that is what bothers me the most about Thomas. He’s allowing himself to be used in a smear campaign against his daughter. He’s an abuser who can’t stand to see his daughter happy. He’s trying to tear down Meghan simply because she won’t give him money and praise and attention. It’s sick.
He wants money from her, too?
Yes!
He said that Meghan promised to take care of him. He is delusional. He wants a special call from Charles. He even tried to contact the Archbishop who married Harry and Meghan. Thomas is jealous of Doria, but Doria is respected because she has dignity and kept her mouth closed. Thomas is too unstable to realize that he could have gotten everything he wanted if he didn’t give interviews.
of course he wants money! he wants money, attention, AND fame. He wants to intrude in her life and be the central figure in it. If he can’t have the nice things she has, then SHE shouldn’t have them either! After all, he MADE HER THE DUCHESS SHE IS! She would be NOTHING without him (his words). Textbook narcissist abuser. Thank goodness he’s an ocean away. If she ever lets him into her life, he will do his damnest to sabotage her in any way he can, just because he craves power over her that he believes he DESERVES. Imagine what he would have done at the wedding, had he attended. Can you imagine? Told an inappropriate story, acted like an asshole, embarrassed her publically. There are lots of subreddits on toxic family members ruining weddings–I looked at some and they were truly appalling. It’s awful how family can behave toward each other, and it’s on every level of society. The Prince of Hanover tried to pull some mess on his son’s wedding, and ended up not attending. Toxic relationship happen in families of every social level, ethnicity, and culture because there are a lot of terrible people out there.
The things that her father and sister said about her is disgusting, unforgiveable, and I wouldn’t wish that on my worst enemies. With family like that who needs enemies.
Lettergate and Harry’s phone hacking are two different cases with one purpose: the tabloids will go to lengths to get gossip even commit a crime. In the latest Fail article Thomas wants one phone call to clear this up. Sure Jan. It still would be the issue of the conversation taped and sold to the Fail. Or the Fail listenening in and reporting it. Meghan is probably advised by her lawyers not to have contact with Dad. That’s one set of legal problems. The other is DM has compromat on Dad and threatened to have it released if he didn’t play ball. I’m surprised by the interview because it comes off as witness tampering to me. @Amy and @Jemima Leopard – DM ‘s goal is to throw Bad Dad under the bus.
Seems like Thomas Markle has been a terrible father to Meghan for years
HE PAID FOR PRIVATE SCHOOL, vacations with friends, congratulated her on her hit show, she wrote him a glowing father’s day post just in 2016 on her own blog about how he’s always been there for her.
This will ALL come out with this lawsuit. It’s quite hilarious you think this.
Well we’re almost in 2020 and he’s still being a piece of sh*t in regards to her. Him doing what a parent is supposed to do and paying for her school, congratulating her for her show and being there for her doesn’t win him any points nor does it matter today. The fact of the matter is that he’s been emotionally abusing her for almost 2 years now. He lied about her not contacting him, he faked a heart attack, he dropped out of walking her down the aisle, he’s been colluding with the same tabloids that have been nothing but nasty to her even when she was pregnant with his grandchild and is STILL trying to strong arm her into a phone call he’ll probably let the highest bidder record and report. If this goes to court I hope he gets called to the stand so he can get torn apart.
That’s what parents do, he is not the first or last parent to send their children to private school and vacations.
The lawsuit is about copyrights, not bad parenting.
@fakemeg – Samantha, grifter of the highest order, is that you?
But the one thing that did come up in that letter – she was paying him money for his upkeep.
Yeah I do those things for my kid so where is my medal? The point isn’t that Markle behaved like a father should at certain times in Meghan’s life but rather he is not, in anyway, now. Also Meghan isn’t suing her father so her relationship with him won’t be on trial.
oh, so he paid for her private school as a child, therefore that gives him the right to emotionally abuse for the rest of her life and she’s supposed to be eternally grateful because he also congratulated her on her show? that’s a good dad in your eyes? you’re an enabler as well and should expect better behavior.
@fakemeg – Her father never actually paid for anything. The money he paid out for his children was just a loan.
From the Mirror, 15 AUG 2018
EXCLUSIVE The ex-Hollywood lighting director has told pals he expected Meghan, Samantha and Thomas Jr to help pay for his retirement but complained he had not received a “f***ing dime
‘“But he made no secret that he expected in his dotage the money he spent on them would be repaid.
“He says they have not given him a f***ing dime back. He is growing increasingly bitter about it, and it has not been helped by how his ex-wife, Meghan’s mum, has been so welcomed into the royal fold. The fact she could be moving to England has not helped the situation while he is in a pokey home in Mexico.”
Mr Markle has already revealed he had expected Meghan to look after him.
He said: “I took care of my mother for the last five years of her life.
“My daughter said she’d take care of me in my declining years. I’m not talking money, I’m talking about taking care of me. That’s important to me.”’
By his own admission, he expects to be repaid in full… and with interest.
Charming… NOT.
Oh, and for all his poor-mouthing Daddy Dearest has a declared a monthly income of $1,500 per month from a retirement account and another $2,700 in social security. That is a total income of $50,400 a year THAT HE ADMITS TO.
Subtract his monthly rent in Rosarito of only $695 a month, and that should leave him able to pay for a reasonably comfortable, if not princely, retirement.
Finally, when he filed for bankruptcy, Markle made a point of declaring that at no point had he received any assistance from his family. Meghan’s letter says otherwise.
It may come out in court that Daddy was ordered by the judge in divorce court to pay for the schooling and other maintenance. That means Daddy has to show is TAX RETURNS. If he was shady there the IRS would like to have a word.
I got all of that as a kid (except no hit TV show) and none of it matters because of the emotional abuse I was subjected to by my mother. I would write glowing cards and draw cute pictures out of a feeling of obligation, not love. None of these things give him any right to Meghan, her money, or her family. She’s better off without him.
@Fakemeg,
Do you even know what the Duchess of Sussex v. MoS lawsuit is about? Your comments (along with the premature glee) read like regurgitations of all the low-brow, naive and immature ones I’ve seen on Twitter.
@Fakemeg or should I say @Samantha Markel? How sad that some people think a father should get some sort of award for doing what a father is SUPPOSED to do, which is raise the child he brings into the world. Have the standards for fatherhood sunk so low?
You’re the one who is hilarious. Meghan’s school was COURT-ORDERED because he tried to hide his lottery winnings from Doria. She found out and insisted on education for Meghan. This POS has never given up a DIME on his own. And this BS that he paid for NW is just that: BS. Too bankrupt, too selfish, too into the ass and blow and gambling to have the money. He didn’t even own the house in LA.
From what I’m seeing, most people don’t care about this story. The only ones trying to show support to Thomas are the internet trolls and a few members of the British press who are angry at Harry and Meghan. The media is trying to pretend that the whole world is interested in this drama, but that’s not true. The world is insane right now with more serious events happening daily. Meghan’s relationship with her father is none of our business and should not be talked about as if it affects the government or public policy.
I truly believe that Harry and Meghan will win their cases, and that’s why reporters are desperately trying to change public opinion. Tabloid reporters have abused their power for too long. It’s time they were held responsible for their abusive tactics.
I honestly think the press is really overreacting and being overly dramatic about the Mail lawsuit. It’s seems like it’s a fairly straightforward case. They’re trotting out old dad to muddy the waters and it does seem like he is being groomed by the Mail, although he doesn’t need much help being a colossal jerk. Sussexes recently had a BBC apology and retractions, as well as winning the lawsuit about publishing photos of their holiday home, so why is this so different and so epic for the tabloids? What did they expect, that they could say and print any type of story about her, with no pushback? Glad the press pack were called out in front of the whole world. That’s what they’re mad about, plus it interrupted whatever post- tour smears they were going to write. I mean, now they’re saying Harry and Meghan should leave the Royal family , once again. They say that every time they do something the press doesn’t know about, like go to US open, take vacations, have private christening for their non- royal baby, edit a magazine , play polo in Italy, and on and on. The tabloids over there are just one big circle jerk and the rest of us think they are really substandard journalism.
I don’t believe a single word he says.
He is an abuser.
Her friends spoke about the letter because Thomas continued lying that he had no way of contacting Meghan, and their point was that Meghan wrote him and he replied.
Sometimes you have to cut your loses, and if Thomas think a phone call from Meghan will make everything OK, he really is delusional.
Words hurt, Thomas bumbling act is not fooling anyone with common sense.
There is a video with Meghan and back stabbing priddy, driving around before they left for College and they passed her father’s house and she told priddy not to stop, because she and her father were not getting along.
Meghan had no intention of introducing Harry to her father, Doria was in Canada and England spending time with Harry and Meghan. If she wanted she could have found a way to make it happen.
One of the stories that Thomas told that I believe, he told Harry he wanted to give a speech at the wedding and Harry told him to talk to Meghan, and she told him no, he was pissed that Elton John could sing three songs and he could not give a speech.
Apparently there was no mention of Thomas in any of the speeches.
I’ve never heard of or seen a speech being given at a wedding. Have you, Yoyo? They usually happen at the reception.
Speeches aren’t part of the standard marriage ceremony in mainstream churches or other mainstream houses of worship. Not that I’ve ever seen. However, it is possible that Thomas Markle has never been to a mainstream wedding.
Or, perhaps, he clung to the notion that because this was to be a royal wedding, the couple or HM, as Supreme Governor of the C of E, could make any changes they wanted to the traditional order of service.
I suspect that what Thomas thought was ‘cute’ came across to Meghan as twee and cringeworthy.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he did want to give a speech at the wedding ceremony knowing that for a few minutes he would be the focus of worldwide attention, and the world would see him for the charming, witty chap he imagines himself to be.
He said the wedding, but I think Elton John played at the Luncheon, so maybe that is where he meant.
@Yoyo. Maybe she DIDN’T want it to happen. Maybe she was glad that her father exposed himself as the selfish, delusional, abusive, narcissist he REALLY IS so that she didn’t have to endure the pain and humiliation that she KNEW would come if he attended her wedding. Better to have a man you barely know walk you down the aisle than to have a monster like Thomas Markle shame you before the entire world.
Thomas is utter trash and the dm is using him to hurt his daughter but he doesn’t care at all.
He gives me severe off vibes – he’s creepy and I really do not like him at all.
I hope the DoS cleans out all the gutter press.
“All it would take is one phone call and most of this craziness would stop.” MOST of the craziness…. which bits of craziness do you want to keep Thomas?
Thomas is saying he will fly to the U.K. to testify about why he gave/sold the letter to the dailyfail, it would be great to put him on the stand, and let the lawyers have a go at him.
The dailyfail is trying to scare Meghan, about her father testifying for them, not going to work, if they bring him over, and he becomes ill, hope they know they’re responsible for him.
This will actually work against them. Because a good Barrister on cross would reveal the whole scheme of the MoS and Toxic Tom. The theatrics would destroy any credibility he had left.
A good Lawyer never puts a shoddy or unreliable witness on the stand. The only way I can see this happening is if the MoS orchestrate it for clicks but they would be heavily sanctioned by the judge. The risks are just too great.
He’s such a manipulative a-hole. The whole “just one phone call” – that’s such a clear manipulative power move. He wants her to make the phone call, he wants to be able to say that Meghan reached out, and he wants to be able to record it or have a reporter listening in. And of course it wouldn’t end there. Its never going to end as long as he is making money off this (and of course he’s making money off this somehow.)
At least we haven’t heard from the sister in a while.
Here is a link where someone has compiled a list of all the times Toxic Tom has engaged with the media despite the fact he claims he hardly ever talks to them:
https://twitter.com/idkwiadthgis/status/1094462335975010304
Bring on the court case so Toxic Tom can bring down MoS!!
Thomas is trash. The DM and MoS using him as a defense against the allegations is hilarious. He’s not slick or smart. If he were, they wouldn’t be in the position they are in. He has revealed every involvement with the paps and tabloids, but sure…put him out there with a story about the letter that doesn’t further prove the Sussexes’ claims against them.
I’m sure they made a deal with Deadbeat Sr. But I thought the parts that were printed help make Meghan’s case about reaching out to him after the wedding? Why would he send the parts that make her case and make him out to be a liar? That makes no sense to me. I think he sent the whole letter and the paper printed the parts they wanted. No way they would not want the whole letter and if they offered enough money I have no doubt Deadbeat would send it over.
I think that he, like many borderline and narcissistic people, honestly thought that the parts he did send them made Meghan look bad because he truly believes she was being “mean” and “hateful,” by telling him that his actions caused her pain, and by explaining to him what she expected of him and what the boundaries and consequences were going to be. My mother is borderline and she can interpret words in the most bizarre way, often seeing statements of fact as mean-spirited bullying, and interpreting any mention of someone else’s emotions, especially sadness/disappointment, as hateful criticism of her. She also really thinks that everyone else will interpret words in the same way that she does and will often show my letters or texts to people as a way to “prove” that I am an ungrateful, mean spirited harpy of a daughter, and is flabbergasted when people don’t come to the same conclusion she did.
Run. Do not put yourself through this, do not put your children through this. The damage will last decades. I’m almost 60 and I can still hear my mother screaming at me in my head. I hope you’re okay.
Narcs typically lack empathy and self awareness. He also views Meghan purely as an object / commodity to be exploited.
I have often wondered what prompted Doria and Meg to become such spiritual beings and now we know….
I was so blessed with a father who protected me and wanted the best for me always. My heart breaks for Megan that she is having to go through this when this man, her father should be one of her biggest supports. What a toxic man he is and the whole Crux of this latest interview is that he is somehow the wronged party he’s just horrible.
Blatant gaslighting. How did her friends misrepresent anything? They just said there was a letter THAT IS ALL. He is such a turd.
Maybe I am remembering incorrectly but didn’t Richard Kay say he read the entire letter and there were some disturbing parts?
Disturbing how? Do you remember, was it his behaviour or hers that seemed disturbing?
Idk, but pretty sure it was alluding to Thomas’s behaviour or past
He’s trash. They only released portions of the letter they thought would help his story, and even then that didn’t help his case. Clearly the other parts are even more damaging to his BS sob story.
And note the DM’s trashy parsing of the language about payment: ‘He is also angered by false claims that he asked for and received payment…’ Of course they’re paying him, but when legally pressed DM will likely maintain that he never asked for payment, but that they just offered it. Legal hair splitting nonsense.
They all need to be held accountable for their toxicity.
The Daily Fail will throw that man under the bus in a second to save their sorry hide, don’t kid yourself. The Markles are only used to needle and embarrass Meghan. Everyone is well aware of what they are: garbage.
Obviously they only released portions of it, but Richard Kay’s comments contradict the mail’s stance that they were only given parts of the letter by her father. Richard Kay doesn’t have any social media accounts, his comments about the letter must have come from an article in the fail. Idk why they even published this article, it says that he called Meghan’s number in presence of a reporter from the MoS, they were obviously going to record the phone conversation.
he’s full of excuses and will never ever take responsibility for his actions. he “never intended to relase the letter” until he DID intend to release it and DID release it, but sure, he was “forced” into it, because nothing is ever thomas markle’s fault.
NOTHING Thomas is doing to Meghan is new to Meghan…ABSOLUTELY NOTHING…which is why she knew how to play his trifling ass…and now…thanks to her new life…she can pay him absolute DUST…which is what he deserves….
I’m sure the letter has how many times Harry and Meghan have tried to contact him but he would not pick up the phone. Thomas even said Harry and Meghan offered to visit him before their honeymoon but he told them not to. He is so disgusting.
Brits can be a very Nasty bunch
Ummm….what? Anyone from any country can be a “nasty bunch”. I’ve lived in England and I met many lovely people there.
Enlighten me, MerryMo, where are you from? A country of absolutely delightful people like you?
I think you mean British tabloids, not British people.
I do think that the daily mail is trying to set Thomas up as the fall guy for the letter being published their obviously going with the defense that Thomas release the letter to set the records straight. The fact that the daily mail is trying to come up with different accounts on why they release the letter shows that they know their no way there going to win these lawsuits. The daily mail thinks that they can continued to bully Meghan that’s why they went back to her father this just a another bullying tactics . Thomas is glorified narcissistic all he cares about his image he willfully throw his daughter and ex wife under the bus to the same tabloids that has been nothing but racist hateful towards the daughter he supposedly loves . All Thomas cares about is himself just because he payed for Meghan to go to catholic school doesn’t mean that he gets to emotional abuse her for the rest of her life because she finally set boundaries. This is man who said that he made Meghan into the duchess she is today that she would be nothing in life if it wasn’t for him what type of father says that about his own child . The daily mail and the internet trolls can try all the wanted to try to paint Thomas as this caring loving father who was abandoned by his social climbing daughter but people with common sense can see Thomas for what he really is .
Vanessa, waaaay fewer people have common sense than I though possible. Misogyny causes many men and women to believe that he isn’t to blame. More people in the world think like Piers Morgan than you an me. I found out when I had to fight a narcissist.
Piers seems out for her since she ghosted him once she started dating Harry. If he’s to be believed, she sought him out (pre Harry) and said she was a fan and wanted to be on his show. This fallout isn’t her fault, but it clearly wasn’t worth trying to cozy up to a scumbag for some potential publicity.
Christina, I’m so glad you were able to get rid of the narc in your life and your child’s life. I think one of the reasons why Meghan is so well adjusted, despite her horrible father, is that her mother successfully took Meghan and got out of there while Meghan was young. Not living with the narcissist helps so much, and your child is going to be so much healthier and happier and probably more successful in life just for not having to live with their narc father.
Yes Bad Dad is being used as a human shield. The Fail desperately want Meghan to drop the case or the use it as proof she is a bad daughter. If she drops the case it will be used as proof she only cares about her image. I say go for it. If the judge says Bad Dad has to appear watch for another heart attack. Remember, Meghan never named him in the suit.
Was there more info in the actual People magazine than the online article? I wanted to see what her friends said about the letter but could find it in People’s article.
I’m not sure this is all planned by Megan. I think she was hurt by the letter in the mail and took action.
@alyse – the gist of it was: the friends said that Meghan HAD tried to contact him, despite his claims, and that she sent a letter. I think that was the entirety of the direct quote about it – “She sent a letter.” If I can find the link I’ll reply to you again with it.
I’ve been following this closely, as I have two narcissistic parents, one with additional mental health problems and the other the enabler. I feel for Meghan, if I were famous, my dad would be saying the most disgusting things about me to any media who would listen.
Of COURSE he never intended to reveal its existence, of course he never did, lol. It would have disproven all the lies about his “Meghan’s an ungrateful brat who ghosted me” narrative which he would have been paid for, of course. So that’s a given. The people article featuring her friends was an elaborately-planned trap to force his hand, which he neatly fell right into. What a crock. Oh, and he didn’t release parts of the letter because they incriminated him in his fake heart attack lies, NOT because “they were hurtful.” God this man is vile to his core. That’s why he found it “hurtful”, because it exposed him for the lying, greedy POS is truly is.
“Hurtful” or “hateful” so often just means “these facts don’t fit my preconceived ideas about myself” or “these facts refute the story I’ve been telling people,” to narcs and borderlines. They really expect people to shape their lives around their worldview and pander to them about EVERYTHING, including helping them to perpetuate whatever ridiculous lie they’re telling themselves or other people at the time. Because “good children/spouses/friends/whatever” know how “hurtful” it is to question someone’s lies. They should be willing to do anything and everything to help the narc, including lying for them, and they should do it all without being given anything in return, because other people are bottomless pits of giving, while the narc is a bottomless pit of need.
Absolutely right on. I think what he found hurtful was that she probably told him she couldn’t have a relationship with him if he continued to talk to the press, something he was told ages ago, and totally disregarded it. He has to always defend himself while doing screw-all to defend Meghan from Scummy and Dummy, abuses her and lies in the press for months, and yet expects a reconciliation and that she’s being abusive for depriving him of Archie. He’s a steaming pile of garbage, nothing more.
He’s just a horrible, toxic person. I can’t imagine doing that to my kids.
IKR? I was sitting here reading the horror parents have put some of these posters through, thinking thank God I’m a good parent to my child. Loving and protecting him and wanting everything good for him came so natural, I just cannot fathom what makes horrific parents tick. It was so easy to love my boy from the minute I first reached my arms out for him. How do they enjoy inflicting damage on the person that loves you most in the world? How?
What an arrogant, narcissistic piece of trash.
No one: “…….”
Thomas: “I want to tell you about me. Me. This is about me. I felt hurt. I didn’t feel loved. Me. Me. Me. Look at me.”
“…All it would take is one phone call and most of this craziness would stop.”
#1. That is a WHOLE lie.
#2. Perfect example of toxic controlling behavior in black and white for everyone to see.
Yet HE will not call HER, will he. SHE has to call HIM. Most of his grip is that the royal family refuses to acknowledge him. That and the fact that Harry stands in the way of “The Bank of Meghan.”
I think before Harry Thomas was always able to work his way back into Meghan life by guilt tripping her or playing the victim . Thomas think that his entitled to live in luxury he saw Meghan marriage to Harry as the ultimate meal ticket his place in the royal family he see Doria picture with the queen and it’s makes him furious because he think it should be him not Doria .
It will start with that one little phone call. But then on the call, he will make some other demand, like seeing her, then seeing Harry and Archie, then meeting the whole RF, then getting some type of title and a ceremonial position at court that pays heavily for something like one hour of work a year: something like Ceremonial Royal Sheep Shearer, whose job is to make the first ceremonial cut of fleece from a sheep once a year (I made that up as an example).
yup. Ceremonial Royal Sheep Shearer! I love it!!! But you’re right. It’s about re-establishing his power over her, and nothing will ever be enough. Not even letting him move into Frogmore and appear on the balcony with the Royal Family is enough for Thomas. One phone call is just the means for weaseling his way back into her life.
Just like the camel and the Arab, yep. lol I meant to say “gripe,” not grip, in my earlier comment. It burns his ass completely that the RF won’t acknowledge him. He doesn’t deserve to be acknowledged.
So we’re hearing from Thomas Markle. What a shock.
It looks like the Daily Mail is setting him up to be the fall guy and he’s falling for it. He’s proof that it’s a bad idea to be evil AND stupid. Pick one.
Thomas’ tragedy is that if he wasn’t a hateful, narcissistic, abusive monster, he’d be a star. His daughter is married to Prince Harry. Look at how the Middletons have used that to their advantage. But he’s too stupid to know when he’s sitting pretty. He had to insist that his daughters wedding BE ALL ABOUT HIM. And when he didn’t get what he wanted, he threw an epic tantrum.
We live in a sad world when a man expects to be repaid for doing his job as a father. My heart breaks for Meghan, knowing her father was keeping track of every penny he spent on her.
For those if you who weren’t raised by an abusive parent, thank what deity you believe in. For those of us who’ve experienced the pain, grief, and sorrow, we understand the shattered hope. Meghan didn’t cut her father off until she had to because she always HOPED he’d change and be a real daddy. And he kept breaking her heart.
I hope the Daily Mail fucks him over. And then get fucked over themselves. ROYALLY.
Amen, Kerwood!
Preach, kerwood! I have had the good fortune to be a well-loved daughter of awesome parents, and it’s only dumb luck that I was born to them and not someone else. My responsibility in life is to treat the people in my life with the love and empathy and support that I was so freely given by my parents. That’s the best way I can repay them for what they’ve given me. I’m so sad for all of you who have toxic relatives. It’s not your fault, and you don’t deserve to be mistreated by the people who are supposed to love you.
Right on!!
Thomas Markle is literally either the dumbest man on the planet or the most selfish. Harry and Meghan right from the beginning told him not to talk to the press. What did he do? He talked to the press. He continues to talk to the press. It is more important to him to “defend” his fragile little ego than respecting his daughters privacy. He time and time again betrays her every time he talks to the press. Meghan was right to distance herself from that side of the family.
Why on earth would she ask him how he was doing?
First, he faked the heart attacks.
Even if he hadn’t, he was clearly well enough to continue selling out your daughter via press interviews & the like.
Is this the era of the “victim” or what? So many awful people playing the victim instead of being accountable for their own behavior.
@A I’m not sure I believe Piers even met Meghan or certainly not like how he’s presented it. This is a guy who faked pics of British soldiers torturing Iraqis& was told off for insider dealing so wouldn’t put lying past him. He’s a huge fame whore so given that he was apparently a huge fan of suits surprised he didn’t take a selfie with her or mention it on social media at the time. Has anybody else at the pub ever confirmed this meeting?
Doubt many including Meghan know his reputation- he’s had a rebrand. He was a host on CNN, then on Americas Got Talent when he was in US so wouldn’t be surprised if Meghan thought he was harmless.
Even in the UK he’s still a breakfast tv host& does a lot of presenting despite the scummy things he did as a newspaper editor, never mind alleged involvement in phone hacking. If Brits barely remember his misdeeds& he has been given cloak of respectability, I wouldn’t expect a US actress to know better.
Remember how Thomas made a big thing about not liking Trump but how Harry said give him a chance? Funny that he turns to big Trump fans like Morgan to betray his daughter. His Fail handler also seems to be a Trump & Confederate army fan going by pics someone on SM posted of her SM feed. Great company to get into bed with.
He deserves to be thrown under the bus by the Fail. I hope all his mess comes out.
Outside of the betrayal of his own daughter, the worst is the press that amplifies his abuse.
He needs to STFU!
Thomas continues to look really abusive.
As someone with a narcissist father who I haven’t talked to in 13 years and who would 100% do this, I feel for meghan, she is right to cut him out of her life. Anyone who feels “sorry” for him has obviously never known what it’s like to have a narcissist as a parent or is one themselves.
He’s a thirsty POS. He doesn’t care one bit about her. Trash. Only normal one is her Mother. Period.
“All it would take is one phone call and most of this craziness would stop.”
He just openly tries to extort her. What a piece of trash.
I have just read where one of the tabloid reporters moved next door to Thomas Markle to try and listen to phone calls between Thomas and Meg. I don’t understand how stupid the tabs are. They seem to forget that the security for Meg/Harry are on the lookout for such tactics. If Thomas and this reporter was planning to do this to the Sussexes, now I know why Harry is suing the tabs. This is not about old hacking tapes some new hacking tactics have come to light for the security team. Thomas plans to come to the UK and testify against Meghan I also read about a few minutes ago. I hope he is prepared for the lawyers Meghan/Harry have employed. Harry is one cool, sly, steely, and mentally prepared dude to go to war with. They been working on how to respond since the day they got married. Collecting info to use to show privacy invasion. Thomas and the tabs kept walking into it. Harry knows security plans like the back of his hands. Now I understand why they waited before acting against them. When the tabs tried taking pictures of their Cotswold home I wonder did they put listening devices on this house. I understand Meghan and Harry so much better now.
Yeah from Fail article, Thomas had his Fail handler present when he tried calling number he had for Meghan. Wonder if plan was to covertly record such a call or if she was just going to note down what was said.
Also there was a week last when Thomas, Piers, Samantha were all urging Meghan to call Thomas on Father’s Day. Some think it was a set up and he had equipment to record the call which they probably would have talked about on Piers’ show.
Also apparently the agency who took pics of their Cotswold place also took videos inside the interior. Funny nobody mentions this about why the Sussexes may be a tad fed up with the press.
I hope all these crooks are exposed.
PS-I just read where the Swedish royal grandchildren have been stripped of their titles so they can have a more normal life with more privacy. Well little Archie is in good company for not having a title. Harry and Meghan made the right parental decision on this for Archie.
Apparently Snr or through “friends” (if he had friends surely one can tell him how appalled most are by him) told the Mirror he hasn’t seen Meghan since 2015. There’s a reason he hasn’t met Harry.
The worst of his response to Meghan’s letter is that he was blackmailing Meghan I’m assuming to buy his silence on the relationship. He mentions Harry protecting Meghan from him. My assumption is when they wouldn’t up the money they were paying him, that’s when he started working with the media on the fake pics.
Him& his family have put Meghan through hell. I read that she may have been a bit late for the wedding because she was distraught over Thomas. Thank goodness for Doria.
Well her hairstylist who was with her said she was as cool as a cucumber listening to music on her iPad.
The last money Meghan sent Thomas was in October or December 2017, then he was cut off, why do you think he attacks Harry so much, because normally Meghan caves and this time she didn’t.
I never wade into these posts, but I have to this time to comment on that last pic of Meghan in all black. That photo is A M A Z I N G. It’s so old school regal and she looks badass and gorgeous in it.