At this point in the royal program, I really don’t care about all of the updates on how the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge are separating from the Duke and Duchess of Sussex. We’ve known all about these separations for a year now, ever since we learned that the Sussexes would get their own “household,” and ever since then, the updates have been going from “mildly interesting” to “completely obvious.” Of course Harry and William had a falling out a year ago. Of course they don’t want to work together. Of course William has been pushing negative stories about Harry and Meghan. Of course they were always going to split up their foundation.
So, this story is about the Royal Foundation split. The Sussexes filed all of the paperwork on their Sussex Royal foundation months ago, and the separation of the foundation work has been spread out for a while. Now the Cambridges are finally getting around to updating The Royal Foundation’s website, and it’s just… funny.
The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge’s Royal Foundation has wiped mentions of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle from its website, following the couple’s split from the charity earlier this year. Prince William, 37, and Kate Middleton, 37, are now listed as the only two ‘principals’, with the Duke of Cambridge credited with ‘founding’ the charity, despite launching the organisation with Prince Harry, 35, in 2009.
Projects launched by Harry while part of the Royal Foundation, such as The Invictus Games and Meghan’s Together: Our Community Cookbook, have been removed from the Programmes section of the site. The site now lists Programmes in five different categories, including Conservation and and Mental Health, but it has removed Empowering Communities, which highlighted Meghan’s work on female empowerment.
I’m laughing. William and Kate want us to know that their charitable work will no longer be in anyway involved with women’s empowerment or empowering any so-called “community.” I mean, it’s sad that Will and Kate won’t be able to brag about and take credit for what Meghan and Harry accomplished through the Royal Foundation banner, but I imagine this is what Harry and Meghan wanted though: they wanted to carve out their own thing and the Cambridges were like “sure, we don’t care about women or communities anyway, take it.”
Also, in case anyone wants to discuss Richard Palmer’s garbage tweet, here you go.
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“The Cambridges’ Royal Foundation no longer cares about ‘community empowerment’”….
I’m confused….When did it?
Exactly.
Well said 👏
The contrast between the Cambridge and Sussex achievements (or lack thereof) doesn’t surprise me. William and Kate have never really wanted for anything and it shows in their laziness and general lack of creativity.
Meghan on the other hand has had to really hustle for her success and that tends to make you think outside the box and be as creative with your limited resources as possible. Now that her resources have grown exponentially, it’s no surprise she’s able to use them in such interesting, captivating ways.
I look forward to more successful ventures from her.
And Harry, tho obv also born to privilege, has grown into someone w the empathy and energy to try to help those less fortunate. I hope they continue to rise in spite of the efforts (much misguided methinks) to pull them down.
Good god they are mean buggers! Meghan has been nothing but elegant, intelligent, and caring/hard working and they (uk media, in-laws) have been just so awful.
Good god they are mean buggers! Meghan has been nothing but elegant, intelligent, and caring/hard working and they (uk media, in-laws) have been just so awful.
I can’t understand why, People Magazine keep saying Kate started the Foundation, she came up with ‘heads together’ banner, but the foundation was started before she married billy.
So he is trying to rewrite history, nothing new with them taking credit for others work.
That must have been a hell of a fight, Meghan wanting all the cookbook money to go to the HUB, and Harry wanting credit for the Invictus Games.
I see they held onto the cookbook though. Who is writing these because “This programme is led by The Duchess of Sussex, and was launched when HRH was a patron of The Royal Foundation. The programmes started when they were patrons of The Royal Foundation.” seems redundant. As for the tweet……kinda feels like it stated the obvious. I think Harry and William dropped each other, not this one-sidedness Palmer is trying to insinuate. The Queen and Charles could’ve stopped this years ago if they actually WANTED to. but obviously they don’t. The queen definitely isn’t gonna step in now, not like H&M are being the perfect distraction from Pedo Andy. Sad state of affairs.
I would be surprised if they “kept” it, though, arguably, the RF staff did work on it with Meghan. It looks like it’s the same deal with Harry’s project Full Effect. My guess is that the cookbook is tied up in the foundation legally and financially and they might not be able to immediately shift it over to the Sussex Foundation until that’s fully up and running. Invictus and Sentebale have their own separate foundations (right?), and were only supported by the RF, which I’m guessing is why they’re no longer listed.
They have a couple of Harry’s projects listed too. Could be an error, or placeholders for information until Harry and Meghan have their website up.
About the tweet: i see no lies. Charles and William have had ample opportunity to show support and simply haven’t.
The conclusion I draw though is they’re unsupportive and on the wrong side of history. I’m not surprised really but it is disappointing – particularly Charles!
Totally agree. It’s not a positive thing to abandon your brother/son.
Agreed. Once upon a (stupid) time, I was a Charles fan. Now? Pfft.
I’m so disappointed in the royal family, but it’s on me. I should have known better. I should never have given them the benefit of the doubt. They’re awful people.
His followup tweet basically suggests that it’s what everyone royal-adjacent is saying privately but not publicly.
And I agree, I actually don’t think he’s lying. I really do think the royal family have largely abandoned the Sussexes. The royal reporters likely want to make it seem like it’s because the Sussexes have gone rogue, but it’s really more of a matter of the royal family being on the wrong side of history and Wills in particular being grumpy that he’s been overshadowed.
+1, and he forgot the Queen, she didn’t show any support either…
Charles didn’t support his wife against his family, and Harry knows that, so why would he support a son.
Palmer maybe a bitter bitch, but what he is saying is true about the Royal family.
I think Charles is cutting other royals out of the picture in anticipation of streamlining the monarchy. Andrew and Edward are younger sons of a monarch — if Charles were to cut back their roles (and their children), he would have to do the same to his own younger son (and eventually to William’s younger children too). It would be one way for Charles to defend the monarchy against critics once the Queen dies along with the public’s good will toward her. That can be seen as positive (I don’t believe in a bloated royal family either), but also because the younger siblings would have to be productive in order to justify themselves — which Harry and Meghan seem perfectly capable of doing, and have been doing well.
Some of the elders may choose to retire, because further down the line it doesn’t matter. The Gloucesters moving to a smaller space at Kensington may be accompanied by a decrease in their workload. Gloucesters, Andrew, Anne, Edward & Sophie, Princess Alexandra. They all have outside homes that are not lost if they stop being working royals. Prince and Princess Michael of Kent aren’t official working royals and are supposed to be paying their own rent at KP.
The one elder really impacted would be the Duke of Kent. The Kents don’t have money and have always lived off HM’s grace-and-favour, first at Anmer Hall and now at Wren Cottage at Kensington Palace. If he stops working, they cannot give him free rent at KP. Either HM/Charles would have to pay his rent privately at market rate, or keep him on the list of working royals until he passes.
That sounds about right. I think Charles, William and Kate are going to work M&H to the bone before streamlining them. I think M&H should focus only on a small number of charities but put lot of presence into them. I feel sorry for M&H, if the entire brf doesn’t survive after the Queens death they’ll be used as the scapegoat when it should be squarely placed on the unpopularity and unlikeablity of Charles, William and Kate.
Don’t trust anything Palmer says, Charles himself sued the media sometime back over private documents. Charles allowed The Sussexes to have their own foundation, because he pays for both houses. Palmer is trying to trick us to believe H&M have no support, just to feed into the narrative. Funnily enough it’s William who is a bit distant from his father. Charles I understand gives a lot of behind the scene support to Meghan. Remember, Charles’s phone was hacked as well, by The Sun. Palmer is a hater.
wow that Tweet is, petty AF? That family is a viper’s nest, why do we fund them!!?!
Do you really believe Palmer knows anything about them? This is just pure spitefulness from him.
@ Mego-I believe what you say to be true. Richard makes arugula look sweet. He’s a bitter bitter man
I see what you’re saying Mego, I meant more A) His tweet is petty regardless of veracity because he is just filled with white hot hate, and B) the BRF does seem like a viper’s nest!
Exactly, I don’t know why people are believing Palmer, just because you don’t see visible support from Charles, nobody knows what happens behind the scenes, and Palmer knows, Charles is not going to come out and contradict him. Harry would not like his dad to be mixed up in his dispute with the media. Remember, Charles’s rival is William, not H&M, because there was a time when people, including me wanted The Crown to go straight to William. Look at all that talk about William being prepared to be king, when Charles is not even dead! Think folks, the media is all for The Cambridges. Back in the day, only Harry’s misdemeanours, were reported, William’s were coverd up. Don’t believe the hype, to quote Public Enemy.
question re: engagements/meetings – William’s meeting with Jason Knauf was added to the CC. Do Harry and Meghan add meetings with their foundation executives to the CC like that? I am tempted to laugh at it, but maybe its normal across the board for the royals for something like that to be included.
Anyway, the Cambridges are petty, but I’m glad that there is no mention of IG or Together on their site. there shouldn’t be.
Richard Palmer is SUCH an asshole. I am of the opinion that Charles and the queen knew of both lawsuits and gave their tacit approvals. Like we have said on here before, this isn’t the first time the royals have sued a media outlet.
But at this point, it is undeniable that there is radio silence from the rest of the royal family and IMO it makes the royal family look REALLY bad. If we hadn’t had that pathetic church drive with Pedo Andy, then maybe you could say the other royals are staying out of this. But no. They could give their support. they are choosing not to.
Palmer is absolutely awful. I made the mistake of briefly wandering into the retweets under him and the absolute hatred is SO bizarre. The only thing I see motivating it is racism, pure and simple. I can’t reasonably explain the vitriol otherwise. DIslike someone sure, whatever. Never going on BRF twitter again!!
The Cambs don’t mention the Sussex on their site (no Invictus) but they do have a picture of Meghan with the Hubb ladies and the Together cookbook. And they have co-opted Meghan’s slogan of people coming “together”. It is obvious they are trying to insert themselves in Meghan’s success. So pathetic because it’s obvious they have no successful projects of their own.
This is from a twitter account who posted the picture from the Cambs foundation website:
https://mobile.twitter.com/PaganTrelawney/status/1181887382381051904
Ah thanks I’ll take a look. I follow that account but haven’t checked twitter in a while today.
ETA wait WTF to that picture!!!!!!
Wow, I didn’t know that it’s The Royal Foundation of (only) the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge and their “unique” influence that led to Meghan’s Together Cookbook.
At least give credit to Meghan each time they use her work. And Harry was the founding member with William so they shouldn’t say that any of this happened because of an environment created by only William and Kate.
Don’t they have any of their own projects to use without using Meghan? They’ve had a 7 year head start.
Those two are straight up pathetic. Other people do the work and they show up to take credit as great leaders uniting people. Utterly pathetic.
Calls back to all the *umbrella efforts* with their different charities.
They continue to list two of Harry’s projects too. As I wrote above, this may be a mistake or placeholders until the other Foundation website is up and running.
Now the Cambridges can rise or fall all on their own with folks seeing just their work without them riding the coattails of others. Time for them to show their own work.
I remain amused that the Cambridges count every little thing on the CC regardless of it actually something meaningful or tangible. Where are the products of all of these meetings like Broken Britain or Wills stuff?
I am not surprised about the pettiness. Par for the course with them although bitterness is ages people.
I too find it amusing that the Cambridges count every little thing on the CC. I think that the reason why H&M don’t is because they don’t want any leaks, any knowledge of events/initiatives before they are done and ready to launch. I mean you can’t tell me that Meghan didn’t have dozen of meetings while working on her 2 big projects, guest editing British Vogue and the Smart Set launch but those meetings aren’t being counted. And I don’t believe but I might be wrong, that Harry’s work for the Invictus Games and Sentebale are usually counted on the CC either.
@Harla – I am pretty sure that Harry’s work for IG and Sentebale are NOW counted on the CC(that didn’t use to be the case.) But, I don’t know if that means every single meeting he has for those organizations is counted. I would imagine he has quite a few behind the scenes meetings for IG and I don’t know to what extent they are counted.
Okay I am taking a deep dive into the CC to see what meetings count and what don’t. I feel like I am missing something. we know Meghan was doing work with Smart Works and Vogue during the summer, but I don’t see any of those events listed.
Some of Harry’s things for IG are listed (a board meeting for example).
Anne’s birthday is noted in the CC, Meghan’s is not (and I didn’t see Harry’s either but may have missed it.)
Hm.
(but for the record I stopped counting after Kates 6th garden event, lol.)
For most of this year or last, Meghan’s events weren’t listed and didn’t come up in searches. Whomever is running the main CC site is doing a lousy job.
@Bonobochick, yes, but they can (and probably will) continue doing next to nothing but will keep getting glowing press. And just like many people believe negative things they see about Meghan in a headline, the same people will believe WK are the hardest-working, most down-to-earth, hands-on parents to ever royal. So it doesn’t even matter how little they do.
@Becks1 that’s interesting about the CC. Why do people put so much stock into it when it’s clearly inconsistent and unreliable? Huh.
I think the CC thing is used as “proof” that the Cambridges work more than the Sussexes while ignoring the quality and value of the Sussexes work as well as the Sussexes not counting every little thing on the CC.
We’ve seen the fruits of the Sussexes labor and some of their projects + long term goals while we only see via the CC that the Cambridges are having meetings that don’t seem to bear fruit for the most part.
The most reliable count is Tim O’Donovan’s, but he’s independent. I hope he’s training someone to take over his volunteer counting job. His letter to the editor (with the engagement tallies) is the one the press uses each year.
*bitterness ages people
Its no surprise most of the anti-Harry and Meghan people are also pro-trump and pro-brexit. They love being wrong about everything and supporting pedophiles.
It’s really not fair to say the Cambridges don’t care about community empowerment. What with all the work being done with the children of broken Britain they just don’t have time for community empowerment…
The shade, the shade. Nicely done.
I spat out my tea reading this!
Oof! But not wrong.
Too busy inventing the concept of sitting on a log outside.
Kate Middleton could hardly be a role model for women’s empowerment either – a 19th century stepford wife who has never done a days work in her life isn’t going to be able to relate to normal women.
That tweet is such garbage.
Kate and Will’s charitable contributions will continue to be propped up and held up despite not having a fraction of the impact of H&M’s because they are the embiggened ones.
Speaking of impact, I can almost see William vibrating with envy at Meghan’s latest exploits. 😁
To echo an earlier comment, when did the Cambridges ever care about community empowerment? I’m sure there’s been an event here or there, but nothing along the line and scope of Meghan’s initiatives.
Richard Palmer is trash. Trying to stir the pot and engage the trolls and haters. He succeeded with that tweet. He also helped me add to my block list.
I think part of Richard Palmer’s tweet is true, it does appear that H&M don’t have any support from the royal family but I refuse to believe that their aides are anything but thrilled to be working for such a dynamic, involved and compassionate couple.
I think radio silence is contributing to the impression the RF are unsupportive of H&M, but we all know the Queen could put a stop to these cases if she wanted to. The truth is these lawsuits have happened before and will continue to happen if the press continues to step out of line.
As for their aides, you’re right. The Sussexes’ aides love working for them. The Cambridges’ aides did not. Those are the ones whispering in Palmer’s ears.
I agree Harla. I also don’t think William dropped Harry, I think there was a mutual falling out prob for a variety of reasons.
Wasn’t Samantha Cohen only supposed to work for them for a few months and she’s still with them close to a year later.
On the Hub cookbook:
“This programme is led by The Duchess of Sussex, and was launched when HRH was a patron of The Royal Foundation. The programmes started when they were patrons of The Royal Foundation. More details on their charitable activities will be coming in the future.”
Uh, what?
They as in the Duke and Duchess of Sussex?
And if they can include some of Meghan’s work, why leave out Harry as a founding member?
Are they forcing their way in with one of Meghan’s projects and do they still have access to any money generated?
I just saw someone post on twitter a picture from the Cambs foundation page and they used Meghan’s picture from the Together cookbook and her slogan of “people coming together”. They are really trying to insert themselves on Meghan’s success. Pathetic.
https://mobile.twitter.com/PaganTrelawney/status/1181887382381051904
The Cambridges are the royals for racists and brexiters, their stans are so embarassing. This is the reality.
This is so true. They have such negative minds and hateful thoughts, no wonder
So the members of the Royal Family aren’t supporting Harry and Meghan but they’re happy to support pedo Andrew. That is an awful look for the Royal Family.
+ 1000
on the other hand, I don’t think the BRF wouldn’t know a good look if it bit them in the ass (or was a compassionate and talented biracial american woman…but what do we know, right?)
Isn’t “empowerment” one of the most overused word nowadays? It may have battle it out with “inspiring” for the top spot.
Meghan is literally getting lashed because Henry does not want to play up to the usual tropes of the spare. So William is throwing him under a bus instead.
This is so embarrassing and the optics are horrible.
William is extremely short-sighted. Meghan is the only adult POC in the RF and should his treatment of Meghan ever be revealed to the general public, his reputation will be sullied even more so than Chuck’s post Diana’s beatification.
Right now there is a carefully coordinated smear by William and certain RR’s confined to Royal Twitter, but the problem is these things is that these smears always come out in the wash.
In other news I note Omid is not on the Cambridge Tour. I am guessing he was asked not to come in the same way Palmer was likely asked not to go to SA.
Omid isn’t on the royal rotation so he does not attend every royal tour. GMA and vanity fair employ him and they have a more American audience so it’s very likely that neither felt that a US audience cares much about the Cambridges.
@Nic do you know why Palmer was not it SA ?
Palmer is the union rep for his paper and has union negotiations and conference during the Sussex tour. Russel Myers pulled double duty for the Express and Mirror (they are sister papers) as a result.
Did he say he wasn’t going? The visit (tour is stretching it) doesn’t start until the 14th.
Yes, he confirmed (maybe when the details of the tour were released last weekish?) he would not be going.
TY.
I hope so hard that at some point, someone writes a tell-all about EVERYTHING that went down behind the scenes these past few years. Look at how much we eventually learned about Diana.
“Of course Harry and William had a falling out a year ago.”
I want to know the reason for the falling out! Come one KP and BP leakers: tell me why! 😉
I’ve heard it said that the falling out was to do with Meg being used as a smoke screen for Bill’s affair. I think there was more to it and it had something to do with safety/
I am guessing locations being revealed for photo ops which may have stressed Meghan out and put her at risk whilst pregnant.
Yeah – something big happened to make 2 brothers who were once close turn on each other. And its more than William not liking or making Meghan welcome.
I don’t think they were as close as the press wanted people to believe, at least not once they hit their 20s. William was at university, hiding with the Middleton family, or pretending to be in Wales for a decade. Harry was at Sandhurst, posted in the Army, building Sentebale, etc.
The Cambridge’s are getting a little drunk with power. They think that they’re so popular right now because people actually LIKE them, when the reality is that the racists and the haters are just using them as a weapon to beat on the Sussexes. Give it a little while until the mob gets bored with them and moves on. Because the mob WILL get bored with this lazy, lackluster family. And there’s just so many times they can use their kids to get attention.
Its not because the people like them, its because the rabid UK tabloids like them and are writing these over the top nice stories about them. They think they have the press in their pocket, doing their dirty work for them – it will backfire at some point when they get bored with the Sussex’s or the Sussex’s win the lawsuits.
At some point the press will out Bill and Cathy Middleton.
Plus I live for the image of Bill and Cathy mirroring the crotch clutching and ‘i’m so keenly interested’ faces.
Anyone else exhausted with the BRF or is it just me? At this point, all I want is for Pedo Andy to go to prison. Everything else is just noise.
Good. They will no longer be able to.ride on the coattails of Meghan and Harry.
Shouldn’t Kate have some sort of charity chutney cookbook by now? I swear every holiday it’s another story about how she’s gifting the QEII chutney like it’s going out of style.
Proposed title
Keen: Chutney & Curry the Cambridge Way
Cain and Unable…
@Elisa I’m pretty sure the falling out had to do with Will throwing Meghan under the bus to cover up his affair. He was pushing the Thomas Markle stories ( according to Tim Shipmans article). Will is patron of the BAFA’S and the interview with Piers and Thomas was nominated for a BAFA. Seems sketchy to me. Also, I think Harry FINALLY saw Will for what he is. He has always used Harry as a scapegoat and I hope he finally saw the light and cut him off.
@Marie – I kind of think that’s what it was too. I don’t think it was anything about asking Harry if they were moving too fast (they seemed to be fine at the wedding and in the immediate before and after of the wedding.) Things seemed tense by Christmas but it really seemed like their relationship took a nosedive in the spring, which would connect to the Rose rumors. I think part of the deal KP made with the tabloids was that it could be open season on Meghan, but ignore the Rose story.
The Pakistan tour is going to tank.
I’m getting ready for all of the cringeworthy moments that are sure to come out of this tour!!
Yeah, the pre tour ‘work’ they’ve been doing has been quite cringeworthy. I wonder if Bill Mid will read his briefing notes this time and how long the ‘private time’ breaks are going to be.
That is a weird article. Maybe it makes sense to remove any Sussex references because they have no interest in community in any real sense. Here is what I find most annoying about the whole Will and Kate thing. They are always trying to step on the Sussex’s work and take up the mantle with their own copycat project. UK is a big country with lots of needs, so why chase the same issues, especially since they’ll be the monarchs? What about homelessness, or the lack of funding and support for NHS ( wasn’t Kate supposed to support nurses?), outdoor spaces/access, getting more kids involved in sports? They start projects but don’t follow through or expand on it. They’re good at the ribbon cutting events, but that’s it. Meghan and Harry are carving out their unique niche with a good portfolio they can build on ( looking at Travelist – needs work), but the Cambridge’s still don’t have a unique consistent voice on anything. They’re too timid, afraid of anything being perceived as “political” (or maybe don’t want their right wing conservative bias to show), and afraid to put a foot wrong. I don’t necessarily think it’s lazy since they’re competitive and backbiting, but they don’t want to put in the day to day work.
They think they’re more important than anything they do so when they have a new distraction, they move on to that.
I think that Billy and Katy favour the ribbon cutting events and so maybe should stick to that.
Maybe that is the impact they can have in drawing attention to important causes. Some causes admire Meg’s hands on approach whilst others likely prefer Will and Kate as they can get on with running things on their terms with the backing of two high profile members of the BRF.
The reality is M&H have no real constitutional role and so it makes sense for Bill and Kate to not be so involved in their charities.
Palmer has a really odd hatred for Meghan. He’s following some trolls who think she faked her pregnancy& mock up awful images of her on social media.
I think KP didn’t know of the lawsuits& that’s where these stories of aides disapproving is coming from but the Queen& Charles did. If they had Sussexes aides sources, the royal press wouldn’t have been surprised by news of the lawsuits.
The royal reporters want to make it seem that the Sussexes are isolated. I think Palmer’s tweet was challenging Charles etc to show support, knowing Charles is not going to waste his limited capital on Meghan. He may like her but he’s not a popular figure himself& probably feels he needs to keep press on side to shore up support for the monarchy when the Queen passes.
This is exactly what Palmer wants. The optics of an isolated M&H gives the unassuming public pause for thought that maybe they are breaking some sort of ‘gentlemen’s agreement’ i.e. that Royals don’t sue as that is terribly guache and attention seeking.
Instead the deal is that we the public get to laugh over salacious gossip about the spare and his wife, take out our Brexit frustrations and crumbling public services annoyances over their public jet usage and in return they get a 4 bed house in the suburbs, which by the way we can fly drones into at any time.
It’s pretty obvious what Palmer is trying to do here. However thankfully it appears that his only audience these days is the court of Megxit trolls…
In the world of RR Palmer is making himself increasingly obsolete by (1) making himself the story and (2) associating himself with the hard right of Royal Reporting. Both these factors never end well, I cannot imagine that TV networks are banging on his door for much comment these days …
I think so much is being assumed regarding these four. Harry and Meghan are suing the press for the harassment, lies, etc., and no one is pointing fingers at or within the family circle.
We could all come up (guess) with reasons why they’ve split- here’s mine: two very different couples want to do things differently from one another. They all know that ultimately they have each other’s back but in the short term they do have arguments and disagree; every family does to some extent.
None of them are perfect but are scrutinized being anything any of us can comprehend. A certain aloofness comes with the environment they’re in and how that’s interpreted varies from day to day, person to person.
I’m thankful for my lack of knowledge and involvement in the lives of these people. I enjoy looking at the photos and especially seeing the happiness that what they do brings to those they visit.
I don’t get the disdain that is expressed here.
I don’t believe that they want us carrying a scorecard on team Sussex vs team Cambridge. I imagine that they themselves ignore it and I wonder why so many feed the press with clicks. If it hurts one it certainly hurts them all.