In 2018, we learned that Owen Wilson had impregnated another woman. Owen already has two sons with two women, and he had apparently dated a woman named Varunie Vongsvirates for several years, and she became pregnant. He asked for a paternity test, and he got it – the little girl, Lyla, is his third child. When Lyla was born, Owen did not show up. He did not even contact Varunie. He signed the “no contact” form or whatever, saying that he did not want to be involved in Lyla’s life whatsoever. I imagine he’s writing checks to Varunie, but he apparently has still never met his daughter. Varunie spoke about it to the Daily Mail:
Owen Wilson’s ex-girlfriend Varunie Vongsvirates has begged the 50-year-old actor to get involved in their one-year-old daughter Lyla’s life. The 35-year-old told DailyMail.com that her former lover is ‘not involved at all’ with their little girl and has ‘never’ even met his youngest child.
‘Owen has never met Lyla. Never,’ Vongsvirates explained while on a rare night out in Los Angeles. ‘He helps financially but it’s never been about that.’ Questioned about this, she added: ‘Lyla needs a father. It’s ironic how [Owen] keeps getting these father roles, he’s playing a father in his new movie, and he’s never met his own daughter.’
Wilson has played father Nate Pullman in 2017 movie Wonder, and has three new films due out next year. Varunie and Owen casually dated for five years before splitting up. He underwent a paternity test last year which confirmed he was the father. Asked if she had a message for her ex, Varunie said: ‘You should see your daughter, she’s incredible, you’re really missing out. She looks just like you.’
Varunie gave birth to their little girl on October 9, 2018 without Owen by her side. He reportedly ‘checked the no visitation box in court in June’ and doesn’t want ‘any custody of her,’ a source told Us Weekly.
As I said in previous coverage, I believe that reproductive choices go both ways – Owen clearly didn’t want this baby and Varunie did, so she had Lyla. He gives the child financial support, meeting his legal responsibility. But he chooses not to have anything to do with the kid and that’s his right. But we can still call him an a–hole about it. It’s especially douchey because he IS involved in his sons’ lives and has been involved in their lives since they were born. So why not with Lyla? Ugh.
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That’s his choice and it’s fine. We should respect that. The mother wanted to have the child, that was his choice.
At least he’s paying. If the mother thought he might change once the baby arrived, that’s on the mother.
It was also “his choice” to use birth control, which he clearly did not. So he knew the possible consequences of his actions, thus he should be responsible for what he made, and more than financially. I’m not down for that 90s mentality of “oh I’m such a strong women I won’t ask the father for anything”- I’m sorry but no. He had an equal part in creating that child, but just because he’s the one with the penis, he gets to not deal with it?! The mother LITERALLY FOES NOT have this same choice, so how is that fair? This line of thinking makes me sick and is partly responsible for my decision to not have children-it’s simply not an equal world, which your comment has reinforced. No we should not respect his choice. It’s no longer someone’s “choice” when a child comes into the world, but then again men have never understood that, and will never be the ones who suffer for it. Thanks for reinforcing the patriarchy.
Just here to add that all methods of birth control have a failure rate, it’s not on us to assume they were or were not using a method.
Birth control can fail, obviously. It seems that Owen made it clear that he wasn’t interested in being a father again and he let her know that. She decided to keep the baby and he agreed to only financially support them. Now she wants to try and shame him publicly even though she knew what he wanted from the jump?
Idk, I don’t see how this is the patriarchy. It just sounds like she thought he would change his mind.
Anon33 – Gender swap this argument and it’s how men try to control women who want abortions. “I had an equal part in creating this child and I forbid you to have an abortion. Just because you have the uterus doesn’t mean it’s not equally mine and now you have to deal with it, forever, because I said so.”
Women are able to sign over all rights to fathers if that’s what the fathers want and all parties agree to it. There was some dude whining about just such an arrangement on reddit not long ago, and he got dressed down hard. He wanted the baby, she didn’t, she had it and signed over all rights, no contact, etc. paid support, and he was bitching her not wanting to see or take care of the kid.
I agree w you Anon. I think the odds are very high he didn’t use a condom. If I had a dollar for every time a guy didn’t want to use a condom, I could be retired. It’s a real battle getting most men to wear a condom ime. I was almost always on birth control cause I didn’t want to get pregnant but I would not tell the guy that because I wanted to be protected from STDs and didn’t want to give him an easy out to not use it. But I would still get excuses. People don’t want women to have an abortion but we’re the ones stuck w raising the baby ! Damned if you keep the baby, damned if you don’t. Meanwhile men get a pass, as always. What next? She was dressed sexy, she wanted it? *sarcasm*
Anon – I think it’d be more damaging to force people to be parents to children they don’t want. She wanted the baby, she loves the baby, she will be a good mom to the baby. Forcing him to be a father to her would just mean she had a shitty male influence in her life. Your whole argument that once the child is born, there is no choice doesn’t really make sense. Where does adoption come into play? Some people aren’t meant to be parents, even if they f***ed up and procreated.
Owen is a father figure to his sons, so he’s probably just an asshole that has something against the mother here. Either way, it sounds like he’d be toxic to the little girl. IMO, the mom should cut her losses and find a decent man to play that role, if she feels like her daughter needs it.
@Anon – It DOES NOT MATTER if he used protection or not 🙄, if he did NOT WANT THE CHILD then HIS RIGHT is to not to reproduce. She either aborts or assumes her single parent (but with financial support) role. How does equality feel?
What are you talking about? The mother does have those options. There’s a morning after pill, birth control, abortion, adoption, etc. not that I agree with some of those, but they are options.
She did not have to go forward with the pregnancy.
@Dewee and @Lightpurple it’s not that simple though. There is still a lot of guilt assosciated with abortion and we don’t know how she grew up. So we don’t know if abortion was ever really an option for her.
He fulfilled his legal obligation by paying for the child’s needs and upbringing. He has a right to want to decide if he wants to be involved with her or not. Sometimes, we have to realize that if he’s going to be a shitty father, perhaps it’s best the child has not contact with him.
It works out better for the kid in the end,l
It’s his choice? This is going to affect his daughter. Imagine growing up knowing your dad didn’t want you and it was all over the news. He has a responsibility to care for his own child. It may legally be his choice but morally this is a disaster for an innocent little child who deserves to be loved and cared for. He also had a responsibility to his partner to use birth control or get a vasectomy if he didn’t want another child. He’s incredibly wealthy and privileged and frankly this comes across as cruel and heartless toward a child. He may hate and resent the mother but the child did nothing.
To be fair, it’s all over the news because her mom put it there. This wasn’t news until the child’s mother tried to publicly shame him. I seriously doubt she did so because she thinks it’s in the best interest of her child to run her through the celeb gossip mill. As you pointed out, that’s decidedly NOT in the child’s best interest. So it seems to me, the kid has two selfish parents. Although I agree with Kaiser that reproductive choices go both ways. However, if Wilson doesn’t want more children, there are permanent ways he can ensure that doesn’t happen again…
For an excellent take on that, read Small Fry, the memoir of Steve Job’s first kid Lisa Brennan-Jobs. I found myself LOATHING him. Ugh, repulsive man.
He’s fulfilling his responsibility to care for this child: he is paying child support as he should. He didn’t want to have this child, he even made a legal statement saying that he would not seek parental rights, the mother knew that he didn’t want to be involved if she carried her pregnancy to term. Every child born should be desired, those taking care of them should want to do it and not forced, having to care for a child should never be a punishment for having had sex at some point. Forcing someone to interact with a child because they share DNA would be extremely detrimental to the child, much more than never interacting with the sperm donor or carrier. Wilson seems like a jerk, which is why he’s probably doing the child a favour by not being around
The difference with Jibs was he denied his child’s existence for years. At least OW took the paternity test and he is supporting her financially. He never publicly commented on the child. It’s the mom who’s going to the press.
What a ridiculous self-absorbed response. “That’s his choice and it’s fine?” Yeah, no sense in having a sense of responsibility toward a child’s life you had equal part in creating. Why try to make an effort to be a father figure for the child’s sake? Payment is enough. Let’s go make some more children with the hopes of not having to actually parent any. Grow up FFS.
Thank you for saying what I do not have the patience to type out.
“If the mother thought he might change once the baby arrived, that’s on the mother.”
I think taking this public was a mistake on her part. When someone tells you who they are, believe them. He checked no visitation/custody on a legal document and has not wavered in a year, which I’m sure included private pleas. I mean if she publicly shames him into making a few visits, will she run back to reporters complaining it’s not quality visitation? As long as he is meeting his financial obligations, that’s all that our society requires of him. Sad yes, but we don’t take legal recourse to force a parent to visit. So I give no points to anyone except my sympathy to the child for this mess she will now be reading about some day.
He wanted a baby with her or he would have had a vasectomy. After two OOPS! babies with two different women, he knew what he was doing.
Actions are what matter here not words. He didn’t get snipped because he wanted more kids. Look for the same thing to happen again with another woman.
He is an a-hole who only cares about himself.
Get a damn vasectomy Owen. Then you won’t have to worry about making babies you don’t want. This is gross and I feel sorry for that little girl. She has an a$$hole for a father.
I’m with you. I get on one level that reproduction is a two-way street and that he has no obligation to be in the little girl’s life — but now that he has three children with three different women you’d think a vasectomy would be in order.
One simple procedure vs 18 years of payments and inadvertent emotional trauma inflicted on an innocent child? Seems like a no-brainer.
Absolutely agree with you. A vasectomy would have solved his problems, he’s just irresponsible and getting away with it because he’s a celebrity.
Some people think there are side effects to blocking sperm, just in case anyone wasn’t aware
That’s probably the reason if he’s not snipped
@Oui oki lol Most men don’t get snipped because they simply dont want to and would rather the onus of the responsibility of birth control be on the woman – as it has been since the beginning of time.
@VV Let’s face it, most don’t because they’re afraid it’ll hurt. And affect their manhood/capacity to get it up. They forget that most BC methods have ginormous side effects for women from weight gain and loss of libido to increasing the risks of heart attacks, but ya’ know, a vasectomy might hurt for 24 hours so surely, women can continue to handle all that!
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Seriously, why hasn’t he done that? It’s just stupid at this point.
I hope he’s already done this. It’s going to be damaging to the little girl to know he didn’t want her. Probably not as damaging as if she grew up with him as a father figure because he seems like a pretty shitty person, but still damaging.
Given that there was a paternity test involved, I’m wondering if he did get one and it didn’t take but that’s just speculation on my part. If he hasn’t done it, he should.
Also, this man has a history of suicide ideation, suicide attempts, and other forms of self-harm. Not the most stable of choices for a father. Where he already has two kids, he may be aware that he’s not good at fatherhood.
No his demanding a paternity test was the age old $lut-shaming tactic of accusing her of being with other men. It’s a tale as old as time. Jude Law did the same thing to his last baby mama.
I agree with you lightpurple. Him not being a part of that little girl’s life may be the best thing he ever did for her.
@VV, EXACTLY. SHAMING THE WOMAN WHO HAD SEX W HIM. the hypocrisy of some men is unbelievable
A woman saying that asking for a paternity test is slut shaming? Isn’t this internalised misogyny? Both men and women can have multiple partners. It is only logical that if a failure of contraception occurs – a paternity test is required. I can have sex with 3 different men on 3 different nights or even in 1 night. If protection failed – I will require those 3 men to take a paternity test if I want to know who the father is. There is nothing wrong with paternity tests – broadening our minds would not hurt.
What an asshat. Won’t watch his movie anymore. Poor Lyla deserves better. We
Hmm, would you call her “douchy” if she had an abortion? Choice applies to everyone.
But yes, he should for sure get a V if he feels this way.
Help me out here, because I don’t understand the abortion comment. How does a woman’s choice to have or not have an unborn fetus compare to a mans choice to emotionally abandon a one year old? To me those are two experiences that should not be conflated, but maybe I’m missing something.
“Hmm, would you call her “douchy” if she had an abortion? Choice applies to everyone.
But yes, he should for sure get a V if he feels this way.”
I don’t disagree with you, Sarah. And YES, if he does not want more kids, a vasectomy solves that issue.
But I find it hard to just reverse the scenario on this. I mean, I definitely do not think a woman that has an abortion is douchey. And so logically, yes, a man should have the option to not have a kid too. The part that makes it hard for me is that Lyla exists. She is a person who didn’t have the choice to come into the world without a father. Yet, here she is. That said, I think that if Owen was upfront with his ex gf to begin with, this is NOT entirely on him. It is messy that this woman knew he had no intentions of being involved, and yet feels it is ok to shame him for doing exactly what he said he would. But at the same time, there is a 1 year old kid that he is refusing to acknowledge. It’s gross.
@Millenial: he did not abandon a 1yo (that would be different), he never was part of that child’s life. It seems like Wilson was very upfront about not wanting the child and not wanting to be involved if his ex wanted to keep it, it was her decision to pursue her pregnancy knowing all this, she can’t complain that things are going exactly as he had told her so: no involvement and sending checks. Wilson is nothing more than a sperm donor to that child and that’s how her mother should explain things to her if she wants the best for her kid
These comments are disgusting.
Biology gives women a choice men do not have. We also bear the brunt of reproduction, which is also biologically unfair.
But once the kid is here TAKE CARE OF HIM/HER YOU DOUCHE. That applies to men and women. He’s already had 2 kids, he knows how this works.
I agree that it’s his choice, but I have an 18-month-old and it breaks my heart to think of the little girl who will grow up with no dad. It isn’t her fault and I can’t imagine not wanting to have a relationship with your daughter, no matter how you felt about the ex being pregnant.
Also, he should get a vasectomy if he feels this strongly about not wanting kids.
I think he needs to be more careful with his dick but I’m not going to judge him. I firmly believe that women should be allowed to decide if they want to continue a pregnancy, to give up for adoption or to be a parent. Men should definitely pay child support for their offspring but they should also be allowed to otherwise give up their parental rights. I think it’s fair.
I’m not making excuses for him. I think it’s heartbreaking that he refuses to see her. How cold is that?
That said Im interested in why he felt the need to have a DNA test performed.
Had they separated by that time and she was dating?
Maybe it was her decision to split which led to bad feelings, hence the test etc.
The baby shouldn’t be paying the price
whatever happened.
It says they dated “casually” for five years. So I’m guessing he was sleeping around with other women and assumed she was too. I’m not sure they ever had a typical committed monogamous relationship.
And she didn’t get pregnant until the end of their five years of casual dating. I’m not defending him because I would always want children to have a their parents in their lives, but it sounds like somehow the birth control they’d previously had been using stopped working for some reason.
Casually dating translates to f**k buddies. That’s why the test. If we want equality for all, we can’t really call him a douchebag for this. He didn’t want the baby. He’s paying financially for her. That’s it. It’s no different than her choice to keep the baby without his approval. They both need to practice safe sex. Plan B should have been used. He may not be in this one’s life because their situation was very casual or toxic or by baby three he was done. We don’t know. It’s sad. But he gets a choice. Just because she chose to have the baby doesn’t mean his choice is cancelled. Otherwise Sofia’s ex would have two babies from their eggs. And you all thought that was wrong. Two choices matter.
What is sad is that this woman had unprotected sex with a guy who doesn’t like to commit. I work in genetics and I really thought out who I wanted to be the father of my children. Genes matter folks! The only victim in this story is that adorable little girl with idiots as biological parents,
We don’t know that it was unprotected. Birth control fails.
What is sad is the man had unprotected sex despite not wanting kids. #SAD
They had sex for the duration of the relationship (5 years) and she didn’t get pregnant until later. That means they were using some form of birth control and it failed toward the end.
Exactly. What is sad is that this man had unprotected sex, despite not wanting kids and having done the same “mistake” two times before!
What is sad is that this man is papped with his other two boy “mistakes” and giving interviews about them on national t.v., but shunning his girl “mistake.”
Sad. Also sadistic, scummy, sleazy, soulless.
I don’t know , I mean he knows the dangers of sex and conception, i think he should be responsible financially and as a father. He knows better and still knocked up another woman. Man up Owen, Lyla didn’t ask for you but she’s yours. You made her when you decided to have intercourse.
Uh, this is exactly what anti-choice people say when a woman wants an abortion.
Like word for word.
Yup. This is full-on anti-choice reasoning.
No this is not an argument against reproductive rights. This is a living child we are talking about. She has emotional needs and her father abandoning her is going to damage this little girl. Although if he’s such an asshole maybe she’s frankly better off.
I’d rather have one involved parent than a dad that resents me and is only there because he has to 🤷♀️
There is a difference between having autonomy over your body and abandoning your child. Nobody is forcing Owen Wilson to grow a human being in his body and give birth to it.
It’s not as if he has been involved every day and suddenly bolted and she’s wondering “Where did my dad go?” so he didn’t “abandon a child.” He said, “No thanks, embryo” just as a woman is free to do. (For how long, who knows how long. Vote.)
The time to say “No thanks” for the man was when he should have said “No thanks Egg” and “I’ll save my sperm for another egg donor”
By refusing to get a vasectomy this man is saying to every woman he has sex with “I want a baby with you!”
Yes, he deliberately had a baby girl and yes he abandoned her.
But he didn’t abandon his sons, by other women he also didn’t commit to.
Sounds like this guy has a big problem with females.
His daughter and all his future daughters by other women he also knocks up and doesn’t commit to, will suffer.
So, every time a man who doesn’t have a vasectomy has sex, the woman should interpret it as “He wants a baby!” ?
Should every woman be held to the standard that if she hasn’t had her tubes tied she obviously wants a baby every time she has sex?
When a woman gets pregnant, she has the choice to have an abortion if in the end that is what she wants to do regardless of what the man wants – as it should be. If she tells the man he is pregnant and he says he’ll pay support but is not interested in being a parent, that’s somehow worse or less acceptable than the woman having an abortion?
You can think a man who isn’t interested in fatherhood is shitty. Fine. And you can think a woman who has an abortion is shitty. Fine. But you can’t call one an asshole and the other a paragon of free will. “I don’t want to have a baby” is “I don’t want to have a baby” any way you cut it.
All sex has risk. Risk of STD, risk of pregnancy. When you have sex with someone of the opposite sex, you run the risk of pregnancy on top of STDs. No sex is entirely safe.
I support a woman’s right to choose. However, she doesn’t get to choose what the father does. I’m glad he is supporting the child financially at any rate.
I mean, yes, it sucks. My parents were married but split when I was young and I have no relationship with my father because he wasn’t interested. The way I see it is that it’s his loss. I’ve built a happy life.
Owen has the right to be as uninvolved as he wants. It seems like he was clear about his feelings from the start.
I feel like we’re ignoring the fact that this is not the first time he accidentally fathered a child. I mean come on!
She’ll find out some day that her father *chose* not to be in her life and that will be a very sad day.
If Owen didn’t want a child he should have used a condemn or had a vasectomy. He brought a child into the world and it is so easy for a man to walk away from their responsibility. No excuses.
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I’ve always preferred his brother Luke as an actor. Owen is a douche & his acting skills consist of making stupid faces.
I’m not excusing him (or maybe I am) but isn’t it better for him to not be involved with the child if he’s not interested? Why is she acting surprised that he’s not present when he literally put it on the record in court that he doesn’t want to be involved? People need to start being more realistic about their partners. He has two baby mothers. If you chose to have a child with a man like that, don’t be surprised when he doesn’t show up. Is he a good person? To me, no, but he made a choice. She has to accept it (as awful as it is). Would she rather he say split custody then bot show up? Why have that energy around your child?
It’s a sad situation, but I agree with you. He’s made it clear he’s giving her nothing but money, so unfortunately I think the mother needs to accept this, stop begging him to be involved, and definitely don’t talk about it to the tabloids. It’s his loss, and trying to force him is only going to be worse for the kid. Time to move on and make the best life possible for herself and the kid, and leave Owen to his misery.
I agree. It’s pretty sh-tty that he isn’t involved, but it sounds like he’s been clear on this since day one. I feel for the child. I’m sure this will be tough for her as she gets older, but regular interaction with a father who isn’t interested in her and possibly resents her existence wouldn’t exactly be healthy either. What is the mother thinking, dragging this into the tabloids? The poor kid.
And he’s had a bunch of mental health struggles in the past too. Just leave it be. Forcing involvement is just as bad, and probably a ton worse, than abandonment. Marry a nice dude, have a couple other kids, and move on. Bad boys will never change, not for kids or anything else.
I agree that it’s his right to have nothing to do with Lyla if that’s what he chooses, but it’s still heartbreaking. Lyla is a person and will grow up seeing her famous father who never wanted to even meet her. It’s very cold.
I’m hesitant to draw conclusions about birth control and who did what – we frankly don’t know. We don’t know their relationship, and we don’t know what they discussed about monogamy, or children, or any future they would share.
(And anecdotally, my second and third children were results of birth control failures – despite very careful use of protection! The difference is that I’m in a longterm, committed relationship, and we rolled with it.)
Saying it’s sad is insulting to every child born from donated sperm or egg or adopted. Plenty of children have genetically related adults uninvolved in their lives and are doing just fine. It’s on the actual parent of the child to make sure they know that they are loved by the person who chose to bring them into the world/chose to raise them. He’s no different than a woman giving her child up for adoption.
It’s one hundred percent his choice and nothing here shows he’s been an asshole about it at all.
Totally agreed! Having/raising a child should always be your choice and not a punishment for having had sex. The kids will do much better having people around her that actually want to be there than with having to interact with a biological father who doesn’t want to be there but is forced to.
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I don’t buy that it’s insulting. People who choose to use a sperm donor or adoption or deliberate single parenthood are making a choice for themselves, for their children and will have prepared for the lack of that one parent in other ways and have something to tell their children as they age, as they ask.
But it’s more difficult to explain to a kid when a parent rejects them and the other parent is left to explain why.
There is fair and then there is right. This is fair to Owen but it sure doesn’t make it right. He is a loser.
And a live born child is certainly different than A fetus.
Plenty of kids grow up in single parent homes and do just fine, mine included.
Damn right he should get a V and he should pay support.
Believe me, if a biological parent wants no contact with a child it is better to simply call an asshat an asshat and move on. More damage would be done by having an unwilling, bitter person involved in a kids life.
Lots of kids and parents go forward and make a new start, find and make support people to surround themselves with and be happy and safe.
I don’t know, as long as he is paying child support, I don’t see the issue. He did not want to be a father again or at all and she made the choice to keep her pregnancy even if he did not want to be involved. So he is stepping up financially and was transparent from the beginning about what he wanted and now she’s running to the press to try and guilt and shame him publicly into acting as a father to the child he did not want, but still financially supports? You want a father figure to your child but chose to have a child with someone that did not want a baby.
Eh, this is a tough one. If they were together for five years then at some point they were practicing effective birth control so I’m not sure I believe he was just slinging it around unprotected. However it happened the pregnancy clearly ended that relationship for good.
I’m also not comfortable saying he needs to get a vasectomy, maybe he does want more children in the future but not with this particular woman? We wouldn’t tell a female to go get her tubes tied for having three different baby daddies, especially if she were financially supporting those babies.
I think we all agree that this situation should have never been put in the public eye.
It sounds to me like they split acrimoniously
They had been together for years and she came up preggers soon after their split and he was so against procreating with her he wanted proof if he was the father and then upon confirmation immediately made it be clear he wanted no part of that child
Is it harsh? Yes
Is it fair to the child? No
But children are not a bargaining chip to be used in a relationship. She knew what the deal was and she choose to keep the child.
They are both adults. They both made their choices. He let it be known off top he didnt want to be a father to that child, and I have to wonder what happened during their split that made him not to want to have anything to do with her and by extension her child.
Notice I am not blaming her , I’m just curious how it ended.
You articulated that better than I did and I agree with your points.
Putting it in the public serves no one.
he may have not been opposed to fatherhood at the time of impregnating her.
All I know is that he has WAY more than 3 kids by 3 different women out there. He almost seems like he has a fetish for impregnating women, tbh. He’s always been a weirdo.
Last I heard, it was 6 kids, 5 mothers. This is not something that just ‘happens’ – this is how he gets off.
Thank you! These three are just the women the public knows about because he probably stopped offering his sex partners NDA’s when they kept getting pregnant.
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.
This guy is a famous, very wealthy celebrity, so by continuing to have unprotected sex, he was advertising for baby mamas.
This is deliberate.
He gets off on it.
Was this a friends with benefits situation that turned into a pregnancy? I have been in one before and I could totally see the guy saying have an abortion and then opting out if I had the kid. That is honestly his prerogative, as long as he is financially responsible with the child. The thing that makes zero sense is he being in the kids lives of the other two friends with benefits situations? Sounds like gender bias may be in play, but we also don’t know if she may be an opportunist and the other women may not be. Granted, as a star, he should be mindful of all opportunists.
I have a friend who got pregnant after 6 months because her boyfriend now husband refused to wear condoms and she couldn’t afford birth control. She forced him into marrying her before the baby was born. When she got pregnant with the second child, he asked her to have an abortion which she refused. He then got a vasectomy. I see them both being at fault and I am truly sad for everyone. They are in a loveless marriage and she has caught him looking for sex online in the past. I hope she leaves him one day, but she insists she won’t consider it until the kids are grown because she doesn’t want the kids to not have a father. I suppose she feels he will be like Owen if they divorce. I find it sad she has to remain with someone she is meh about all to have this intact family that is a sham. She is a happy family FB poster too.
Of course she’s a happy Facebook poster. I’m genuinely interested in finding someone who is truly happy who brags about it on Fakebook, my feeling is that those of us in truly happy marriages don’t need to broadcast it to the world.
It’s better for Owen not to be involved at all than to be a shitty or half ass father but it’s immeasurably better to be a decent father than none at all.
So hell yes, I’m going to shade him. He has two children so he knows exactly what this little girl is missing and he’s withholding it to punish the mother.
I’d be more apt to shrug if he didn’t have any kids. But he’s got two so it’s too late now to blather about not wanting to be a dad.
Life takes us to unexpected places, especially when we make poor choices or choices that aren’t fully under our control.
Now why this woman put all this out there is a different matter entirely. I don’t like her either.
Even when there are visitation orders in place, you can’t force someone to see their child. How many weekend visits have been skipped by deadbeats, and the judge won’t force them to pick the child up as ordered (but if you withhold visitation after a period of abandonment, you could still get sanctioned by the judge! Just one of the double standards that punish mothers and protect deadbeat fathers). Hopefully she finds a great man that loves her and her child and wants to commit to them. Seems like Owen won’t put up a fight if she wants her future partner to adopt the child.
Why did she put this out there? She could’ve said no comment, but we all say things in the moment and I don’t know how I’d respond if the press asked me ANYTHING. She is raising a daughter on her own and will have to navigate how to tell her daughter her father denied her, didn’t nor will ever want her. I can’t imagine what that I would do, not how the daughter will rationalize knowing she has two half brothers who get the benefit of a relationship.
Yes he’s supporting her, but that’s the bare minimum considering his financial situation. Just throw money at a problem and expect it to go away. How rich white man of him.
What a douche canoe.
Awwww, she’s exactly 10 years younger than my daughter. They share John Lennon’s birthday. Of course she’s amazing. 💖
Men who married & purposely created children divorce and abandon those too. Seeing a deadbeat dad get so much support here sickens me. Fortunately, I know from experience he’ll regret it. When he comes crawling to that daughter crying in his old age, I hope she’s as disinterested as he is now..
I’m not 100% sure about this either way. But abortion comes with baggage that vasectomy doesn’t.
He’s 50 years old now ?! He needs to grow up, step up, at LEAST wrap it up.
Wow
If he doesn’t want to wrap it up, he should only sleep with post menopausal women. Women younger than that have functioning ovaries and uteruses.