Hillary Clinton is a big fan of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex. A few of the Sussexes’ staffers used to work for Hillary, so that’s one explanation. Another explanation is that as a former FLOTUS, senator, and senior diplomat, Hillary Clinton understands soft power and how Harry and Meghan could truly be important and influential diplomatic figures for Great Britain, if only the palaces, courtiers and British media would get off their d-cks. Over the past year, Hillary has spoken about the Sussexes and defended Meghan in particular. And now Hillary has been rewarded for her Sussex-loyalty! Hillary Clinton visited Frogmore Cottage this week:
Currently on a six-week ‘sabbatical’ from royal duties to spend time with her family, the Duchess of Sussex won’t be seen in public until the new year. But that doesn’t mean all is quiet behind the scenes. On Tuesday Meghan secretly invited former First Lady Hillary Clinton to visit her at Frogmore Cottage, her Windsor home, the Mail can reveal. According to sources, the two women hugged during what was described as something of a ‘fan girl’ meeting.
Prince Harry and six-month-old Archie were there and Mrs Clinton, 72, even got to have a cuddle of the royal baby and told Meghan about Chelsea’s new baby son, Jasper, her third grand-child. ‘Both women have a lot of admiration for each other and it was a very sweet, warm meeting,’ the source said,’ they are mutual fan girls!’
There have been a lot of high-profile American visitors to Frogmore Cottage over the past seven months, right? Gayle King, Ellen DeGeneres, didn’t Oprah visit too? And now Hillary Clinton. Archie is one of the most well-connected babies in the world. Add to that… apparently, the Queen has also been dropping in on the Sussexes at Frogmore?
The Queen often pops over to see Prince Harry and Meghan Markle as she attempts to unite the family and keep them within the royal fold, an insider has claimed. The monarch is said to be quietly helping the Duke and Duchess of Sussex cope with the pressures of royal life. According to the Daily Express, the 93-year-old frequently visits Prince Harry, 35, and Meghan, 38, as well as six-month-old Archie, driving herself over to Frogmore Cottage when she’s at Windsor Castle.
The Queen is also said to have given the Sussex’s her ‘support’ to spend Christmas with Meghan’s mum, Doria Ragland. The insider said: “The Duke and Duchess see a lot of the Queen as they now live at Windsor. That’s why they didn’t go to Scotland this summer and why the Queen is supportive of their decision about Christmas.”
We heard that in September, when it was clear that the Sussexes were NOT going to visit Balmoral – sources insisted that Harry and Meghan actually spent a lot of time with the Queen since moving to Frogmore, because the Queen spends so much time at Windsor Castle. I am still not sure I believe it, but I believe that the Sussexes want us to believe it. I do think Archie and his parents get a lot of visitors at Frogmore, for sure. But… most of the visitors seem to be American!
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Lol’ing so hard right now….
These RR’s can’t keep their stories straight even when they’re being paid. Billy would do well to remember that because when the tide turns (as it will do) they will turn on him like a den of snakes….
I’m such a small person that I’m very much waiting for that.
Betsy I have no shame in saying I am waiting for that…
I mean maybe they don’t care about the narrative or keeping it straight, it’s just about the clicks and money for them? Maybe making it contradictory makes readers re read things ? Idk
It is all about the about the click$ and money for them and only about the clicks$ and money for them.
This is why I think Meg and Harry need to start following in Bill and Cathy’s footsteps.
If they had been the ones to have these private audiences, I’d already know about it because they would have put them in the court circular to boost those numbers…
It’s like Beyonce stealth v Kardashian insta feed
Yeah no, I’m sure there have been many people that have visited the Sussexes that the media don’t know about and Meghan has Beyoncé stealth in spades. That woman left Frogmore and gave birth and went home without anyone finding out anything. Why do you think the press have been wanting access so badly? They have no idea what they’re doing until after the fact. It’s literally the guessing game with the press in regards to the Meghan and Harry.
Twas a joke about how Kate and Will count everything towards their numbers
I’m so tired of the constant Beyoncé comparisons to Kim Kardashian, it’s disgusting. What other world-famous hard working celebrity singer, of Icon status, is always compared to Kim Kardashian? A black one. They will never be in the same category, regardless of the repeated attempts to diminish Beyoncé’s accomplishments.
I’m black, and these two are who we use as comparisons on the urban blogs because everyone understands those pop culture references.
And we love Beyonce’s stealth
Kim Kardashian is neither black (she’s Armenian + bronzer) nor is she accomplished.
So many of the people who hate Meghan are also huge Trump supporters. I see that the meeting of the two women who make their heads explode is already causing hysteria and spawning more conspiracy theories, it’s great!
I mean, it makes sense. The things that Meghan stands for are pretty much the opposite of what the Trumpers stand for. I can only imagine how out of their minds they must be right now.
Along with racism, the other factor that weighs heavily in the Royal Reporters’ smear campaigns against the Sussexes is that Meghan came out, pre-Harry, against Brexit. It turns out that a lot of the RR’s are Brexiteers (many Brexiteers of which also happen to be Trump supporters and right-wing nut jobs). I realized this and started to pay attention after a particularly cruel hit-piece by Dan Wootton appeared around the same time as a tweet by Wootton where he went off the bend and was practically hysterical because of a, yet another, Brexit delay. Also, remember the Brexiteer’s career that got sidelined because of his girlfriend’s racist tweets about Meghan? Yeah, if you have angered Brexiteers you have angered Trump supporting, racist, right-wing nut jobs.
Oh my lord. Meeting Hillary Clinton socially – is faint from the joy of it. Of course i would barely be able not to shout at odd intervals “YOU WERE ROBBED AND EVERYONE KNOWS YOURE THE REAL PRESIDENT” so I wouldn’t be great company. Unless she wants her own truth telling Greek chorus.
Hahahaha I love this comment.
LOL — that is too funny. For real, though right? How could you NOT say that!
I am sure misha nonoo and Harry’s friends have visited too but they aren’t blabbing to the press about it. You know, stiff upper lip and all that.
Sometimes, the most important support is the open and loud and proud kind. I’m over folks who quietly support in the background but don’t make waves or ruffle feathers. They are also the type to go to Thanksgiving with their racist relatives and chuckle at homophobic jokes so as not to embarrass the teller.
Sure, but honestly, who cares if they visit? Those friends may be wealthy and connected, but aren’t that famous in their own right.
You’re kind of right most probably. Lots of the celebs that visit, then brag about it. On top of that, as this site has mentioned many times, Americans are proud to have an American in the Royal family. British people on the other hand are less proud of the Royals in general so the impact just isn’t the same.
@ROYALBLUE. Misha Nonoo did speak to good morning America. Nacho was on multiple US shows standing with Harry. Harry’s “stuff ipper lip” British friends all seem to go running to Tatler and the tabloids gossiping rather than showing support.
I’m also think the only reason we know about these high profile visits is because they want us to know that they have powerful media and political figures in their corner and a broad network outside the Royal circles. Maybe Viscount Whomever or Harry’s chums or Archie’s godparents stop by to visit, but they won’t blab because it’s personal and they don’t need that smoke.
I just love that the Sussexes have completely ignored the British Media and they are so angry about it. Harry said that he would not play the game and they’ve been trying so hard to force them by using polls, smears, etc and nothing has worked. Everyone will visit Frogmore except them and that’s the gag.
My very high profile colleague (political, not celebrity) met with the last month. These two are constantly working, and all this “time off” bs is a total joke. Good thing is they don’t care. What they care about is racist attacks on Meghan. Misinformation about their use of time is de rigeur.
Go on… 😉
yes, PLEASE!
More, please! (pretty please with sugar on top!)
“ Hillary Clinton understands soft power and how Harry and Meghan could truly be important and influential diplomatic figures for Great Britain, if only the palaces, courtiers and British media would get off their d-cks.“
This! There are so many better ways to harness H&M’s charisma and popularity than being human shields. Everyone in the palace is so short sighted imo.
I also don’t think the Queen pops by.
I’ve watched the Crown on Netflix and there’s many similarities between Elizabeth/Margaret and the Cambridges/Sussexes. Margaret felt like she was the modern princess and had the people on her side while Elizabeth was seen as a boring woman but she was ultimately told that the people don’t want any creativity from the royal family and to play by the rules.
It’s amazing how much changes from the 1960-1970’s to 2019.
And what’s crazy is that the press act like it’s the 1950’s and we aren’t in 2019. This whole debate about them spending Christmas away is stupid because virtually everyone does it. It’s normal and I’ve seen more people support this and are side eyeing the stupidity of anyone complaining about it. It’s bizarre.
Ahh I love The Crown! However, I think the dynamics of S/C relationship is much different than that of Margaret and Elizabeth’s.
Once the Queen had several children, Margaret was no longer consequential to the line of succession and could easily be pushed aside or her personal life used to deflect gossip around the Queen (or more to the point, around Prince Phillip). In the eyes of the courtiers, the only royal whose popularity matters is the monarch’s and the direct line of succession needs to be protected/managed at all costs.
Are we going to talk about how Hil has started invalidating trans women? She’s recently become, or has recently ousted herself as, a TERF
Photos for a private meeting are unheard of.
Silently praying that Andy topples over the monarchy after Brexit has decimated what is left of the Union. Cue Meg running for President of the USA and the start of the Sussex Dynasty.
Good bye Dumpfs
Another thing Hilary and Meghan can relate to is being unfairly, overwhelmingly vilified by the press and public when they’ve just been out there doing good work.
Exactly. Hillary Clinton isn’t perfect, obviously, but she has been a punching bag for the right for decades – she can understand what H&M are going through right now, maybe better than anyone. I am glad they met and it sounds like it was a nice time.
THIS.
Totally Agree, but Hillary was more than just a punching bag for the right, she got vilified by the left press as well in the run up to the election. I remember a particular scurrilous hit piece about her in Slate magazine that was beyond disgusting.
Cute story, but given that Prince Andy is giving a (supposedly) no holds barred interview to the BBC I would hope that the story about the Queen isn’t more distraction. Short of a pregnancy announcement from Camila, they should not be able to bury the Andrew interview.
😂😂😂 you win the comment section today.
Now that would be a story worth commenting on 😂😂
😀😀😀short of hearing announcement that Camilla is pregnant…..😀😀That is priceless!
@Mia4s tell me you have watched the show The Windsors on Netflix, there is an EPIC episode regarding Camilla getting pregnant!
This sounds like QE’s PR machine attempting to make her look like less of an a-hole. I don’t buy it. I think she’s visited once or twice sure. And Im sure that they see each other more often since they now live in the same place but QE hanging out at Frogmore? Yeah…no
Yeah, when I ask who benefits the most by this story of QEII’s alleged cozy visits to Frogmore, it’s the queen. Things have escalated to the point where if she actually wanted to help H&M, she should be freezing out the worst offenders (courtiers/”royal sources”), and providing tangible, visible evidence of her favour for H&M.
I see no reason why QE would not drop by Frogmore to, if nothing else, see her baby great grandson informally – if she can drive out to her stables to see some horses, why wouldn’t she? It’s a very human thing to do. All the people doubting that she visits Frogmore don’t give a plausible reason why she wouldn’t.
The Queen really spends a lot of time in Windsor, she rides her horses there, and probably just chills, and I am sure she visits them. Why wouldn’t she? If nothing Archie is adorable, she probably enjoys spending time with a chubby baby after spending so much time with grey suits at the Buckingham Palace.
First the Queen doesn’t want anyone to mention their names because she is so disappointed by them and now she visits them frequently? My God these RR’s are so sad.
Yep.
Exactly. First the queen and senior royals are distancing themselves. Now the queen is quite “supportive”. Next I guess she will be roasting a turkey to give to the Sussexes for Thanksgiving!
I would love for the Queen to dress up as a pilgrim for dinner!
I am sure there are visits between the two – Sussexes and the Queen. I imagine most of the visits happen at Windsor Castle, but maybe there is more privacy at Frogmore, fewer courtiers/staff lurking about. I’ve never believed the stories that the Queen dislikes Harry and Meghan or is ticked about their behavior or anything. That’s part of the reason why I think her behavior re: Andrew is so disgusting. She’s willing to let the Sussexes be the shield for Andrew even though they haven’t don’t anything wrong.
That said – the timing of this story makes me think someone has gotten through to the Queen and made it clear that she has to do “something” to show support to H&M, so this story about her frequent visits to Frogmore was leaked.
yeah this sounds very much like that BS about Kate trying to be “supportive” and William being “concerned”. Just another member of the family trying to cover their own ass. I imagine Charles’ piece will be coming out any day now.
Yeah, I believe the Queen visits with H & M at Frogmore and Windsor Castle.
Not sure leaking about these visits is actually the Queen having a realization that she needs to show H & M support, or whether it’s H & M’s PR team stepping up to spill the tea.
Given the Queen’s failure to intervene in all of the negative H & M stories from Charles and William’s camps this past year, it seems more likely this story came from H & M’s people. Sad to say but I think the Queen in her adherence to tradition is about protecting the line of succession (& her favorite, aka Poor Andy) before all others, even if it means H & M get sacrificed. Again, spinning attention away from the real stories (Rose, Epstein, William’s work shy ways) is the game she is being advised to play by out of touch (and ruthless, racist) royal courtiers.
I hope you’re right.
I have a hard time believing that the Queen doesn’t like M&H, I always assumed H was one of, if not THE favorite grandkid. But I do understand the level of stubbornness that a 90 something year old matriarch can haul out. My gram is the Queen’s age, and I’ve always seen some parallels in their behavior/attitude. They’re scrappy as hell even in their 90’s, and god help you if you want to change their mind on something.
But, at the same time, mine went from being super up on the Republicans to openly trashing Trump, so there’s always SOME hope that there will be a breakthrough. I do wonder if she realized the degree in which M&H were being offered up as a shield. I hope not.
I read somewhere that her favorite grandchild was Peter Phillips but this may because he was the first grandchild.
She did used to stop by every Sunday to have tea with her cousin Margaret Rhodes at Garden Cottage Windsor. That makes an opening in her schedule now that Rhodes has passed away. She *could* be filing it with time with Harry and Meghan.
If there is no truth to this story about visits from the Queen and it is another stunt to cover her stone-cold backside, what must Meghan think . Probably that she and Harry would be better off spending the holidays with the Markles!
Everybody want to see Archie, he’s the real star of the Royal Family!
Why did Harry call The Queen to say they weren’t spending Christmas at Sandringham if she’s popping over all the time?? The RR might want to co-ordinate their stories…
Also I hope there were no trans women there when Hilary visited – otherwise it might not have been a safe space for her.
Here’s where I differ, I actually do think it’s very possible the Queen pops by. She and Harry have always been close, and while I think she could have done waaaaaay more regarding the press, it’s completely possible she pops by.
I think HRC also understands the sexism that is at play in many of the criticisms of Meghan. Yes, I think racism is the underlying theme, but sexism also plays a large part.
I *hate* to compare the Duchesses but why are Megan’s meetings characterized as secret and Kate’s private?
Oh, wait, I know.
I guess it says something about me that the thing I took from this article is that the Queen is driving herself over to Frogmore?
LOL! Me too. I pictured her trying to see over the dashboard as she made her way over, with just her little pastel-colored hat visible to anyone looking in.
I think she wears a head scarf when driving herself.
QE often wears a khaki coat, head scarf, pants and boots when driving around her property, especially if visiting her horses.
If the Queen regularly pops in to see the Sussexes, then why would she care if they spend Xmas with Doria?
SHE doesn’t.
I’m very pleased to hear that the Queen is much more supportive of the Sussexes than the tabs (and Normal Bill) would like us to believe. It makes perfect sense that she wouldn’t be sobbing into her pillow over Harry and Meghan choosing to spend Christmas somewhere else if she sees them on a regular basis. And how could she stay away from the delightful Archie.
As a grand and great-grand, the Queen knows how important it is to spend time with your grandbabies and I like that she’s in Doria’s corner about that. I have a feeling that Doria is probably a welcome change to the ultra-pushy Middletons as far as the Queen and Prince Phillip go.
I also wonder if the Queen understands that some people might be reluctant to spend time with her beloved Pedo Andy. She’s made HER choice, but it doesn’t have to be everyone’s choice. So, if folks are willing to spend the holidays with a man involved in human trafficking just to get their picture in the papers, that’s on them.
“welcome change to the ultra-pushy Middletons”
The only person disliked by The Daily Fail commentariat and most commentariats in general as much or more than Meghan is Carole Middleton. I have never read a positive comment from a poster on Carole Middleton in The Daily Fail, The Dim or The Daily Slow.
Mrs. Michael Middleton must be a major piece of work.
Why don’t the Fail commentariat like Carole? I thought she was in with the in crowd with that rag.
Carole is too thirsty for the British. Her campaign to snag Prince William via her daughter was much too obvious. And then, after she’d succeeded in making her daughter the ‘English Rose’, did she rest on her laurels? Oh no, she pushed her even less interesting daughter Pippa into the spotlight. And now, it’s the ‘King of the Nazi Marshmallow’s’ turn.
The British are as ambitious as shit; you can’t colonize and enslave half the world if you don’t have a BIT of ambition. They just don’t want it to show. With Carole, it SHOWS.
So there’s never been anything wrong between the Queen and the Sussexes!! Why didn’t they tell us before??? Yeesh, I hate the media. And the courtiers. Courtiers and media, if you’re reading this, blow it out your as-es once and for all, or disappear altogether. That would be my preference.
I do agree that some of the above takes on this strategy could well be true. I hope it’s not. I’d like to think that the Queen is still in close touch with Harry and visits fairly often.
I believe the queen has been to Frogmore more than once, I also think, the Sussexes, probably bump into the queen on their walks. I think, the press, are now panicking because the Sussexes have called their bluff, and they won’t be getting their Xmas photos, body language analysis, and realms of articles about the church walk, they have literally killed the golden goose.Harry said it, he is not going to play their game. They are roping in the queen, hoping that, The Sussexes change their minds. Too late, the game is up. Merry Christmas, H&M, my regards to Doria.
You know I’ve always maintained that when you give someone enough rope they’ll eventually hang themselves with it. This is what’s happening with the RRs. Meghan and Harry have played the long game extremely well. They have discreetly gone about suing the Fail and Mail on Sunday, then gone quiet. They have ignored the racist filth and made-up stories, the deification of Kate and Bill, the passive-aggressive determination by the Cambridges to show them in a bad light, distancing themselves as much as possible from Prince Pervert, etc. And now the tide seems to be turning in that suddenly there are positive articles coming out about them, the Queen visits regularly! They’re working hard behind the scenes! Hillary visited and they all bonded! Yet the ONLY time you see them is when they WANT you to see them which is when they are introducing a new project. They’re outplaying all the people trying to take them down. Kudos!
@Jaded have you seen the updates on Meghan’s case against the Fail? https://www.bylineinvestigates.com/mail/2019/11/15/noen2cgslou82nzpgi0g3mpjebpd6i?format=amp
Seeing the details it’s funny to see the Melissa& Duchess difficult stories& how much they seem to make up. Interesting that the Fail will have to prove the stories were verified for publishing or if they can’t stand by them proves Meghan’s case they have been publishing lies purposely.
Thanks for the link Rogue – I don’t think either of these vile newspapers has a leg to stand on and they’re journos are probably sharting their pants right now knowing that their lies have been exposed.
Ok so this puts the whole “the Sussexes are adrift” narrative to bed. They are clearly positioning themselves for a post BRF global philanthropist/ speaker tour/ board of directors. They’ll do fine, they are preparing now. When the BRF goes up in flames (see Andy interview story), the rest of the BRF will be “adrift”.
I agree with what jaded says
It tracks for me that Her Maj goes to visit Harry and Meghan and Archie from time to time. She’s been through many other royal scandals, and I think she must realize on some level how bad the optics are at the moment. She may be attempting damage control. I also believe that Harry is one of her favorite grandchildren–they’ve always been closer, it seems, than she is with William.
But there’s what goes on in private, and then there’s what happens in public/with the press. She’s clearly content to let them take the heat off Andrew. She could be doing SOMETHING to get the press to back off H&M but it’s clear that she hasn’t.
I could believe that the Queen visits. The Queen has always been one for sticking her head in the sand and for showing an unruffled public face, so she might think some support from her behind the scenes is enough.
This is me being very generous to her.
I can’t imagine that the Sussexs’ would put out an article like this (in the Sun no less) speaking on the Queen’s relationship to them without some type of approval from BP. So this either came from the Queen’s people, who are likely to be the ones who have press relationships with folks at the Sun, or it came from the Sussexs w/ the blessing of the Queen’s people.
If it was in fact the Queen and her folks who put this story out there, then it’s the first decent PR step they’ve taken in relation to the Sussexs, and it was a LONG time coming. More of this, please. More stories about how the Queen gets to see Archie, spends time with Meghan and Harry in a casual setting, and what not. This is the type of support the palace should give them.
So she met the Sussexs FIRST but this reported days AFTER meanwhile the DESPERATE Cambridges leaked it ASAP! It could be more obvious who the PR driven couple are