You know how all of the MAGA people are all just whiny diaper babies and moron snowflakes? You know how they seriously believe that they could spend eight years holding Barack Obama and his family to one standard, and then they could completely throw out that standard when Donald Trump is bangin’ p0rn stars and openly contemptuous of his third, vacant trophy wife and their son? Yeah. Well, guess who’s at it again. On Wednesday, the House Judiciary Committee began their phase of the impeachment hearings. They brought in three constitutional scholars to speak about the House inquiry’s findings, and the constitutional standards for impeaching a president.
One of the scholars was Stanford law professor Pamela S. Karlan. She was asked about the history of our American republic, and how the founders truly built the constitution around the idea that duh, presidents are not kings and there is no American “nobility” or aristocracy. This is how she said it:
“Contrary to what President Trump has said, Article 2 does not give him the power to do anything he wants. The Constitution says there can be no titles of nobility, so while the president can name his son Barron, he can’t make him a baron.” It was a completely articulate point, well-made and pithy enough for a Twitter clip. But of course all the diaper babies started crying about how Professor Karlan “attacked” Barron Trump, and how “unhinged liberals” were something something WITCH HUNT ON A CHILD. The professor… correctly made an observation on a child’s name, and it was in a particular context, i.e. that Donald Trump believes himself to be an emperor, a king, someone about every law and someone who can surround himself with sycophants in the “royal court” of the All-White House.
Melania Trump is one of those diaper babies, I guess.
A minor child deserves privacy and should be kept out of politics. Pamela Karlan, you should be ashamed of your very angry and obviously biased public pandering, and using a child to do it.
— Melania Trump (@FLOTUS) December 4, 2019
I have several very real questions. One, does it disturb a child’s privacy to simply have his name mentioned in a congressional impeachment hearing? “Privacy” does not mean “we can never speak Barron Trump’s name in the public sphere EVER.” Two, this is the bitch who wore an “I Don’t Care Do U?” coat for her visit to children in cages. Melania should be f–king ashamed of that. Spare us the manufactured outrage.
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So, part of me kind of understands the criticism that she shouldn’t have said it because it just gives the right something to rant about.
But, the right was going to rant about a strong, intelligent woman taking the house Rs to task anyway, so whatever.
She didn’t say anything bad about Barron, she didn’t even say anything personal about him – just his name. And I thought it was a very succinct way to get her point across.
The manufactured outrage from Melania et al feels like just that – manufactured outrage.
Sorry but she did nothing wrong and had nothing to apologize for. It’s an analogy spoken in plain English for the Dumb Dumbs. The Right has attacked every person speaking truth at the hearing no matter how *perfect* the person. Yet the Dems continue to bend over and apologize for everything including breathing. They continue to fall for the trap the Right sets up: Do as we say and not as we do! “You Dems must follow XYZ behavior, we Republicans can do whatever the F we want to!”
I’m sorry but this weakness and false equivalency on the left is the main reason Donald Trump can be elected by the right without apology. Melania considers an educated constitutional scholar telling Trump he is not a King angry, pandering? She can go to hell. And the media can kick rocks for coming to her aid while refusing to hold her accountable for never explaining her sketchy immigration status or her “I don’t really care do you” jacket worn to a camp where her husband is caving children. No more passes for this shitty corrupt family of liars.
So, you didn’t read my response at all beyond the first sentence, did you?
Because I said the right was going to rant about her anyway, I thought it was a succinct way to get her point across, and that it was manufactured outrage on the part of the right.
but okay.
Yeah, I agree with you Becks1. I read your entire comment.
Good point.
all they have is manufactured outrage.
and I’m sure they had just as much outrage when Rush Limpd*ck called Chelsea Clinton “the White House dog” or when the Obama girls were called monkeys.
the Dem first children were outright BULLIED and harassed. all this woman did was say his name. not even close to being the same.
The comment invoking Barron’s name was to make a point about Kings. Sadly the entire GOP & the 3rd lady didn’t understand the reference or the constitution for that matter .
As far as Melania goes, she didn’t give a F about Malia or Sasha when she was spouting her Birther BS.
These people are trash, sweep them out
At Becks1
Yes I read your entire comment as you can see I didn’t object to anything else in your comment but the disclaimer about the professor. My point is that those disclaimers need to go away just like women need to stop saying “I’m sorry but…” before countering a man’s argument. Republicans don’t use disclaimers or do soft chiding to those they defend.
Anyway I should have said my comments aren’t personal or only aimed particularly to you. I’m just sick of good people losing and being trashed by a bunch of evil low-life jerks and everyone from the left to the press being too afraid to stand up to them.
Agree Becks, one rule for magahats and trump and another for everyone else.
There’s some brilliant tweets with Melania’s deranged birther interview with Joy Behar that perfectly illustrate the point.
It’s just carrying on a theme though… for all in their camp who keep bleating that Trump has done nothing wrong, imagine the nuclear explosion that would have happened were Hilary or Obama president (or any Dem for that matter), and if they’d made that same phone call to the Ukranian president, and had the same shonky associates and the same obstruction from the White House and Dept. of Justice. They’d be apopleptic.
I don’t care about Baron, do U?
DING! DING! DING! WE HAVE A WINNER! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I bet you’re reading donnie’s mind
Precisely! LOL
Wow, perfect.
Spare me the righteous indignation, Melanie. If you genuinely cared about your son’s privacy, you wouldn’t have tweeted (read: had Stephanie Grishom tweet) about this incident and turned him into a news story and MAGA/GOP talking point.
Was it right to mention Baron? Honestly, Pamela H. should’ve avoided mentioning him just to avoid giving the repubs ammo. But if Melanie wants to know what a real attack on a first child is, Chelsea Clinton can take her to school.
However, likeliest theory: Melanie wasn’t even aware of this stuff, and her press people did this to create distractions, deflections, and whataboutisms to get people talking about something other than Trump’s crimes.
Dr. Karlan did not give anyone ammunition. They are shooting blanks. She came, she schooled and left them in the dust. Period. I refuse to watch these losers trash another educated woman doing her job. If they have no constitutional arguments against hers I don’t really care do you?
I mean, sure, it’s blanks, but they’re shooting anyway.
The problem is the right turns everything that isn’t ammo into it…. everything gets twisted and pulled apart. Dr. Karlan probably should’ve chosen more carefully… but she shouldn’t have to and it sucks because as you said she did nothing wrong.
All these witnesses are in a difficult situation and basically all of them will say something that in hindsight they probably shouldn’t have because the right will twist it. It’s a no win.
She wasn’t talking about Barron, himself.
She said that the president named his son Barron. The statement was about Barron’s father.
Ugh, these people. Even if it’s Biden, we MUST stand together next time! I don’t know how much more of this I can take.
Melania probably can’t tell us what Barron wore yesterday or where he even was when her office wrote that tweet. This is not the first time Melania has exploited that kid for her own political purposes.
And I find it offensive that a woman who probably was introduced to her husband by Jeffrey Epstein used “pander” to describe that hearing testimony. Also, I doubt Melania knows what “pander” means.
Come on. She does know it’s the famous black and white endangered bear of China. I’m puzzled as to the relevance of the bear in her Twit-rant, though.
🤣🤣🤣
In fairness, my understanding is she is the only involved parent in Barron’s life. That being said this is ridiculous. Plus, the woman apologized for even bringing his name up in this context. Which I agree wasn’t really necessary, but was nice. Now if Melania was the only one who said anything about this, I would be okay she has a right to ask that her child not be brought into these types of conversations. She could have been like the other first ladies who respond to much harsher comments about their children and left off the part the woman was partisan. She’s a Trump though and they all just have to needle. However, is she going to go after Mike Pence and all the others who are now making it a bigger story and using it. Please this is ridiculous and talk about whiney babies. They have the audacity to call others snowflakes. I mean Trump can’t even take other foreign leader making fun of him talking so long. That was the jist of the conversation caught on tape. Doesn’t he realize he does talk forever!!!! Whatever you say about Bill Clinton he made fun of the fact people said he talked too much, and neither him nor Hillary did anything but ask people to stop talking about Chelsea. Much worse was said about her than Barron ever!!! They were downright mean to her. I’m not even going to the Obama’s cause so much of that was racist crap, and it’s so obvious the Republicans think it was okay then to just bash them. hypocrites to the 1000 level.
Yes. As I understand it she lives outside of DC in a house with her parents near Baron’s school. And I bet she didn’t make that tweet, her office did in her name.
Talk about an over reaction
There are enough substantive things that a woman of her caliber can call out.
This was more of a cutesy soundbite and I firmly stand by the standard for anyone that minor children should not be mentioned at all in such a serious proceeding.
AGREED
I agree. As soon as she said it, I thought, uh-oh. Aside from the inappropriateness, it sounded rehearsed.
Agree. Someone of her stature should have 800 other things she could compare it to.
I agree. Anyone with any degree of political awareness should have known that to mention a child’s name in this context would be throw fresh meat to the rabid right.
The boy can’t help who his parents are,can’t choose his family or their actions.
She is far too intelligent of a person to need to bring up any minor child for any reason,and now people are talking about one dumb comment instead of every other point she made.
She never said anything negative about the boy, she was making an analogy to a title which his name can be used as. It’s intellectually dishonest to claim her statement was targeted at or even really about Trump’s son. And no it’s not her fault that people are ignoring everything else she said. It’s the fault of those who have no defense of the indefensible and want to create a carnival out of impeachment.
Adam Shiff made a dramatized retelling of Trump on the phone trying to hustle the President of Ukraine. As a distraction, he is now called a sick lowlife. I’m sure everyone who objects to the Professor sends daily emails to Schiff asking him to step down from the committee for this. Next Speaker Pelosi will breathe too loud and cause a distraction. Liberals will panic and ask her to step down to keep the Republicans from using it against us! Give me a break. Get back to me when Melania apologizes to the parents of those children in cages she does not give a shirt about!
I can see insults or jokes at his expense being out of line, but she didn’t attack him in anyway. People are outraged at the wrong things.
Exactly. It added nothing to the dialogue of value.
There’s obviously something that causes them to be extra protective of him. I don’t think he should be used as a tool to make some passive aggressive point. But it also doesn’t warrant all the outrage. It would be great if politicians could leave the minor children out of it completely. (Both reps and dems).
It was not a passive aggressive point. It was a literal fact.
There’s no way she said it without realizing it would cause upset.
While I don’t think Karlan should have used that analogy just because we all know how the right can twist anything, I don’t think there’s anything about Barron that causes them to be extra protective of him. If anything, they’re the ones exploiting him by just not letting a simple analogy slide.
Kids father is a legit rapist psychopath and his mother is a gold digging bitch who dgaf and they lock up other people’s kids but we should care if someone uses Barrons name in appropriate context. Kids got way more problems in his life than this fake outrage. Fu*k the whole family
Your whitey righty family, like my own, will savor the outrage olympics on this one. Oh, they are so outraged! Trust, if they are like mine, no one laughed louder or harder in the 90’s when Rush Limbaugh held up a picture of THIRTEEN year old Chelsea Clinton and said “here’s the white dog”.
Or when John McCain, around the same time, went around telling a “joke” that should have ended his phony career:
“Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because Janet Reno is her father”.
They remember. They pray YOU don’t. But I’m here to remind you . So take this with you and make them eat it when they open their mouths later this month at the family holiday.
The Trump loving right is composed of stupid people only at this point. Anyone with any critical thinking skills sees through all their nonsense. This is why they have waged a methodical campaign against public and higher education. They know they must keep folks dumb to survive.
Poor Chelsea, I remember the insults that poor girl endured. No one has had that kind of abuse. That poor girl is probably still in therapy.
They still hurl abuse at Chelsea on a regular basis and her responses are pure class.
John McCain said that? That is horrible. I remember an old Saturday Night Live skit whose punchline about giving Chelsea a gift was, “What do u get a girl who has nothing?” The audience groaned, and I was outraged that anyone would make a child the butt of their joke. I’ve rooted forher since then.
He did say that yep. You know what i just thought of, I wonder if nutmeg as Meghan McCain is known on twitter, will dare to touch this? She knows what her father did. This story is perfect for her ginned up phony outrage, but I wonder if she dares?
Thank you for the reminder! I’m going to need that to survive a few of my co-workers.
Signed! SO tired of the fake “whataboutism” BS.
These people are dumber than a box of rocks.
Hey Melania and the Maga Idiots do you want to talk about the rights of children I just read the U.S. has held a record 69,550 migrant children in government custody in 2019.
She did not write that tweet. “Obviously biased public pandering” is not in her vocab. What’s the over/under that KellyAnne wrote that?
That’s true. I tweeted that yesterday, but with some nasty observations about why she couldn’t have written the tweet. I’m not sorry. It’s the truth.
Yeah, her vocabulary consists of “from A to Z” type of stuff, not “pandering” and “biased.”
Okay, I now take back my comment, cause you are correct I didn’t think about the language of the tweet. There is no way Melania wrote that. She probably didn’t even think it.
Very good point, that. She wouldn’t know how to say this in English.
Glad I read the comments before posting because this is EXACTLY what I was going to say. Lol.
It’s her attack dog STephanie Grisham. She is wore that Suckabee if you can believe. And Melting Kelly anne was on fox this am saying Trudeau was jealous of that tub of lard that’s why he said mean things. Trumpster women are delusional.
Um… but Greta Thunberg was fair game? Mocking a minor with a disability? I swear these people, I don’t know how they function in their reality.
I can’t wait for this bs to be over. But I also bet Trump is already planning pulling all strings and connects to escape prison and fake his death or whatever option a b and c so that he can hide out under the radar somewhere
Excellent point- Right wingers said terrible things about Greta.
And the Obama daughters.
And Chelsea Clinton, to the extreme.
I wish she would’ have said it because now it’s a distraction and gives them something stupid to scream about, but she didn’t say anything WRONG.
Amy Carter too. The only Democratic kids who didn’t get bashed were John and Caroline Kennedy, probably cause they were so young and at their really cute stage. Plus, their father was assassinated so that would be hard to do, but pretty sure the right could do that now though. They weren’t teenagers or awkward pre-teens. They only care about their LEADER’s kids and his white followers!!!!
She certainly gave them a way to turn the focus off what was actually discussed in the hearing which MAGA nation doesn’t want to hear or talk about. Now it was just about her using baron’s name to make a point. At least she apologized, which trump never has when saying scathing things about Greta Thunberg who although she certainly has put herself out there is still s child. People should call out Melania every time orange face bullys someone online. Such hypocrisy.
I am sure Greta Thunberg’s family feels the same way, Melania.
And the Parkland kids… and the Sandy Hook families.
This is so perfect, and such an example of how hypocritical these horrible people are.
So…the MAGAs don’t understand English?
Anyone can “mention” Barron. Barron, Barron, Barron. Amy Carter and the Obama girls were ripped mercilessly, called ugly, sluttish, etc. Also, my God, as was mentioned above, the assassinated Parkland teens and Sandy Hook six year olds. Maligned after shot to death, NO significant gun law change to prevent tragedy for America’s kids. Cowardly donald is SO chicken-shit afraid of the NRA. Other people’s tragedies mean zero to him. So entirely selfish and parasitic. Yes, let other people fight the wars because I have fallen arches (or whatever other lie). STFU and cooperate with the impeachment hearings and go quietly to jail. Or go kicking and screaming.
JUST GO!!! Frigging unbelievable. Oh, and the MOFO makes BANK on Secret Service protection for him and his very extended family (agents must all stay in Trump-owned hotels and pay millions for the privilige of protecting their asses).
Same goes for celebrities and wannabe celebs who’ve named their offspring Saint, Sir, King, Prince, Princess etc
I would guess that the minor children from Amy Carter forward would have a few examples of truly outrageous comments aimed at them.
Why is it that there never seems to be a photograph of either parent seeking to genuinely interact with the boy?
Her husband mocked Greta Thunberg and she’s fine with it. Not a word from her about protecting a child when it’s her own husband actually insulting them. Children have been separated from their parents and caged. No problem for Melania. Barron’s name is mentioned in an analogy and she’s incensed. He wasn’t mocked or insulted. His name was mentioned. The faux outrage from this garbage woman and the ilk who support her husband, is a complete joke.
We need a like button!
I so agree!
Exactly. This wasn’t worth an apology.
Completely agree!
How ridiculous it is to even object at all to a kid’s name being referred to in a public forum with no other disparaging remark uttered towards him…………..but in light of who these people are and what they have actually done to and said about other children, their indignation is especially moronic.
I totally agree. Well said.
Yes! Thanks Deanne. A thousand likes.
Yes, Deanne, preach.
I do not support Trump in any way. However, the comment should have not been made. Keep children out of the discussion.
It was a play on words, not a comment about the child.
If this is what you have energy to get outraged about I don’t really know what else to say to you.
I don’t care at this point. If he can jail children and babies his spawn deserves all the ridicule.
If I recall correctly, a prominent Republican staffer once said that Sasha and Malia Obama looked like prostitutes because they wore short skirts to one of their father’s events. It turned out that one of them was wearing her school uniform.
But then again, calling a Black girl a prostitute is as American as apple pie.
+1.😓 That was messed up on so many levels, including the fact that it IS an example of rape culture. These people held/hold Sasha, Malia, and Michelle Obama to ridiculous standards when it came to that issue (gee, wonder why? 😒) yet want to fake concern about it when something is said about one of Their Women (Smelanija, Bristol).
Can we all agree that Melania definitely didn’t write that tweet?
Yes I think we can. I didn’t read the tweet just the summary, but thanks to all who brought this up as it makes a big difference. She probably didn’t give a crap, but someone said it’s a good angle to go. However, I’m not so sure, cause I still feel there is a small portion of independent Americans who voted for him cause they thought he was tough. Well!!!!! He doesn’t seem so tough when he balks at leaders mocking him for talking too much, and he gets offended when his child’s name is brought up and not in a negative way. He seems like the dreaded snowflake they think all the liberal are. I think maybe this small portion will look at him and rethink it. All we need now is someone to say he has a tiny penis, and all hell will break loose.
Ha ha are we supposed to believe Melania wrote that tweet? Sure. Also, his son wasn’t attacked. She simply mentioned his name !
And Republicans have the nerve to call Democrats snowflakes. I’m old enough to remember all the crap Chelsea Clinton had to endure at the hands the right wing. Compared to what has been said about previous preisdent’s children this is positively tame.
Anyways. They can can it after the way they’ve mocked the parkland kids begging GROWN ADULTS to do something about gun control cause they can’t even go to SCHOOL without running the risk of getting shot up and the girl begging GROWN ADULTS to do something about climate change so that she and kids after her will even have a Earth to live on. Or the kids they’ve SEPARATED FROM THEIR PARENTS AND LOCKED IN CAGES. Or the way they’ve treated Chelsea Clinton or Malia and Sasha. Baron has largely been kept out of the spotlight (as he should cause he’s a CHILD) and has not faced nearly as much scrutiny as other First Children. Not that this even counts as scrutiny. Eff off. We don’t to hear it.
The sad expression on Barron’s face speaks volumes.
I’ve never seen that kid smile, not even once.
in fact, I’ve never seen ANY register of ANY kind of emotion on his face. like, to me, he doesn’t even look sad. just vacant.
Imagine what could’ve been said about Meghan McCain by the opposition. Makes me sick that McCain would tell jokes about other people’s children. He’s a dad and should’ve known better. Selective memory is hard on the truth once people have passed on.
I don’t really care, Melania.
The GOP propaganda machine will seize upon any distraction. The big news yesterday was that Barr’s chosen prosecutor can find no evidence for the bogus argument that the FBI opened up the Trump/Russia investigation on false premises. What is horrible is how the mainstream press jumps on these predictable, manufactured outrages and dutifully cycles them through radio, television, internet and newspapers to sell advertising–effectively using these nothing stories like noise to drown out the actual issues at hand. They are complicit in the attempted destruction of our Republic.
The ones using Barron’s name now to distract are – as usual – those so publicly offended Republicans.
They are the only reason this boy’s name is dragged through the headlines. With they’re fake, gaslighting outrage to distract from the very real crimes of iQ45.
The same Republicans who are not even slightly outraged by children in cages. And these children still are in cages.
I am so tired of these horrible people. Please get rid of this mobster traitorous trash asap. Melanie can go eff herself. She is a goddamn birther.
I don’t think the professor said anything wrong, but with this psycho right wing snowflake environment it sadly gave the MAGA machine ammo to distract from the real issue, which is that the US has a criminal and traitor as president.
One: it’s pretty obvious Melania never wrote that tweet. The spin factory is in full deflection mode right now.
Two: Karlan wasn’t actually talking about Baron at all here. To repeat that talking point plays into their spin. She was merely mentioning the choice of his name, which he had no input in the selection of. As Karlan correctly points out, that choice of aristocratic title as a name, is endemic of a person with grandiose tendencies. A narcissist who truly believes they are entitled to privileges beyond their station and position.
Bringing kids into any of this is bullshit. That’s not about politics, it’s just decency. Being anti-MAGA doesn’t give anyone a free pass to be an asshole.
Oh please😒 save your faux “outrage.”
She wasn’t being an asshole. She didn’t insult anyone. She used a play on words to say the President can’t bestow titles of nobility. It’s a point about the limits of presidential power.
BARF. Barf barf barf barf barf. The only Melania Trump I can stand is the version Aquaria impersonated in the Snatch Game on RuPaul’s Drag Race. Melania WISHES she was that interesting/funny!!!
It was probably a cute throw away comment that she probably uses in her lectures but not one she should have used in the hearings although it was used as an analogy to explain. That’s not the real problem tho. The real problem occurs if leading news organizations that are not Fox gives her one-liner more air coverage than it deserves and/or fails to cover the substance of her comments.
The Fox crowd, the National Review crowd and others of that ilk were going to sh*t on, debunk or ignore anything that doesn’t fit their ongoing narrative anyway.
Most people would agree with the FL in the idea that kids should be kept out of politics/arguments/anything their parents do, but this was literally an example in what Trump does or thinks he can do. I’ve heard GOP’s say way worse about women. Let’s not forget how they attacked Dr. Ford and how she still has to live in hiding due to death threats. They should change their name to the hypocrisy party.
“Barron” is such a ridiculous name… unhinged parent alert (see also: Prince, Princess, Major, Duke ….)
Amy Carter. Chelsea Clinton. Sasha & Malia Obama. All of these former WH kids would love to have a word with Melania and MAGAt crowd. Hypocrites. The entire lot of them.
They can all suck it. That comment was benign. Pamela Karlan is great! She shut down that stupid rep (forgot his name and don’t care to learn it) at the opening statements.
Now the butt hurt GOPers are telling people not to send their kids to Yale and Harvard. Don’t worry dude. The Trumpsters don’t have that kind of money to send their kids there. They wear uninformed and stupidity like a badge of honor.
Shut the f*ck up, Melania. Immigrant children are dead because of scum like you. I have no problem hoping Barron’s father’s legacy follows your son for the rest of his life so he has no opportunity to capitalize on it.
Three cheers – let the First Floozy get so upset (daily, forever), she leaves her fake citizenship behind and goes away.
I’ve been thinking how Barron also sounds like barren, which is what I imagine T’s inner life to be like…truly, I think there’s something unconscious in his attachment to that word…
Why didn’t Melaria spoke up about the poor teenage boy who died in the detention center. It is heartbreaking to read about it, and I feel for his parents. The deplorables are hypocrites.