It’s lovely to think that Lindsay Lohan can still be saved. And while I don’t want to be overly pessimistic here, her family history and lack of basic intellect tell me it’s not likely to happen. And frankly Lindsay’s been doing this way too long without the serious consequences most of us would have suffered. Sure, she’s basically unemployable, but she still manages to rent out a $10,000 a month home and do nothing but shop with all of her limitless free time. The average person with Lindsay’s issues would probably struggle just to keep a roof over their head. Whatever consequences Lindsay has suffered, they’re not enough to get her to change her behavior. Which makes me think that nothing is, since all that’s left is jail… and the only thing worse.
According to the Enquirer, Samantha Ronson fears that worse thing – that she’ll come home and find Lindsay dead. But she hasn’t given up on the “actress” yet, and has managed to talk her into going into a counseling program together.
Samantha Ronson, terrified that her deeply depressed, drugged-out lover Lindsay Lohan has entered the final stages of a death spiral a la Anna Nicole Smith and Michael Jackson, phoned LiLo’s family and their closest friends, begged for intervention help to save her life – and finally convinced the fading young actress to enter a no-nonsense counseling program they’ll both attend. Things came to a head after Sam found Lindsay camped out on her doorstep at 5 a.m., and camera mics caught the hysterical star sobbing: “WHERE WERE YOU? Where were you?… I’ve been crying… Where were you?… Where were you?… Where were you? Where were you?” Wailed Sam to pals: “I’m afraid I’m going to come home and find her dead!” Stay tuned.
[From the National Enquirer, Aug 17, 2009, print ed.]
Is this like couples counseling or something more? Generally you do counseling alone so that you can be totally frank about your issues. Really the only reason I can imagine to go with your sometimes friend/sometimes girlfriend is if it’s a couples type thing. Which might help Lindsay and Sam’s relationship a bit, but Lindsay is the fundamental problem and she needs to work on the bottomless pit of her issues. She can’t do that with someone else there. There’s the chance that maybe she’ll make some sort of breakthrough in a couples setting or connect with the therapist and maybe that’ll inspire her to go on her own too. But adding Samantha into the equation – while it’s better than nothing – is mostly just a distraction. She needs to go all-out before she can improve enough.
Here’s Sam and Lindsay hang out with friends on Melrose Ave on July 30th. Images thanks to Pacific Coast News.
Lindsay hasn’t hit bottom yet. The recent dye job leads me to believe she’s looking for change, but unfortunately she’s looking on the outside. She needs to change herself from the inside.
Who knows maybe this will help. Maybe Sam does have Lindsay’s best interests at heart.
But if Lindsay is in this much of a downward spiral is Sam still with her purely to prevent Lindsay doing something stupid? It must be hell being with someone who is in that dark headspace.
Its either deep love or deep fear that is keeping Sam with Lindsay…
What exactly is wrong with Lindsay? Is it the drugs and alcohol? Is it her messed up family situation? She’s got two movie roles lined up. So it doesn’t seem like Hollywood cares as long as she shows up for work and does good work.
jaybird – L. probably won’t go to counselling unless S. is there.
In any case, sometimes that’s what it takes to connect people to help/mental health resources.
and, yes, there are thousands across N.A. in L’s “condition” – who have fewer resources, supports & less financial stability.
I work with them every day.
Sam is a good person I think.. I think she loves LL but probably isn’t ‘in love’ with her anymore i.e. doesn’t see her in a romantic way anymore. Too much has happened, too many scenes.. it’s more of a parent/child dynamic now (Guess who has which role duh.
What exactly happened to LL to make her so messed up? My own family is way more dysfunctional than LL- WAY. Maybe this would have happened to a lot of us if we had LL’s access to money to self destruct though. Regardless I no longer watch LL and laugh, it’s now hoping she’ll just stay afloat and stay straight (so to speak – in terms of lifestyle/clean living, lol)
Who is to say Samantha Ronson is to be held without blame for the volatile relationship that her and Lindsay have…Maybe she is the one who instigates and antagonizes the blowups that they have…believe me, everyone has a dark side, so Lindsay parties like a rock star, so did I at her age…she is the one that almost always has a smile on her face when she is in front of the cameras…on the other hand Samantha Ronson walks around looking like Princess Vlad The Impaler with dark circles under her eyes and a constant scowl on her face…you would think at any minute she is gonna snap and stab somebody in the face or something…what I’m saying is don’t put all the blame on Lindsay!! She don’t deserve it…
I agree with Beth-She’s probably just at the level of trying to help LL and going with her to couceling will force LL to be honest with the therapist.
I agree with Ramona, from my take I think Samantha is a bigger part of the blame then anyone gives her credit for. Because she seems to lead Lindsay on and then kinda bolt when there’s trouble. She’ll pull away from Lindsay but then when Lindsay threatens to bolt Samantha wants her back. I think they both have issues not just Lindsay.
Thank You, and well said Summer!!
@ ramona- Maybe SR looks so grim b/c of the acute stress of caring for an addict/ensuring they don’t harm themselves. And you know, she’s a DJ and works crazy hours. She might be deemed an enabler by some for still keeping LL around but it seems her intentions are good. SR is not a mental health professional so she’s just doing the best she can until LL agrees to get help it seems. Come to think of it- I’m surprised LL hasn’t been put on 515o hold (i think the term for involuntary mental hospital hold?) like Mischa Barton and Britney were. Hell, I think if LL could get clean for real and get a conservatorship for a bit like Britney things would be great. Sad thing is LL’s parents are both immature and greedy famewhores so that wouldn’t happen.
The only person to blame for Lindsey’s problems is Lindsey. No one forces her to be with Ronson, snort crap up her nose, chain smoke, eat nothing, drink, run around acting crazy- No one is forcing her to do those things, she is doing them of her own free will. She choses to be around the people she s with, she choses to live her life the way she does, not her mother, not her girlfriend, not her manager, but her. Sam is just a symptom of the problem, but not the cause. Lindsey will not get any better unless SHE wants to and sees that she needs help.
U people that blame Sam is CRAZY and still think that LL is a child that got abuse PLEASE. In the beginning they are friends and later become cleary more that’s why they are always together but Sam it’s not LL MOTHER or PARENT RELATED so LL make her OWN decisions nobody force her doing anything we learn wrong and right when we have at last 9 years old. So even when we are teenagers WE NOW the Difference and now she have 23years old and u people STILL say that is not her faul give me a break.
Hey M Are you speaking Ebonics???
or just a stupid language that only you can understand??
Lindsay has been acting since she was 10 years old and she is a very accomplished singer, what the hell has Samantha Ronson done that could compare to Lindsay, the only reason she is so popular and in all the magazines is because of Lindsay. Sam Ronson is a D.J.it don’t take much talent to sit on your ass and spin records in a nightclub….Samantha has been publicity leeching off of Lindsay for years…she may pretend to be offended by all the attention but lets face it, she would be a nobody and a complete unknown if it weren’t for Lindsay’s popularity and I’m willing to bet she wouldn’t be making near as much money nor have as many jobs if it weren’t for Lindsay!!
She’s wearing those fugly shoes again! Someone needs to organize an intervention about those things. They look like they’ve been mauled by a rabid Rottweiler!
Ramona- Samantha Ronson comes from a wealthy family, so I highly doubt that she is the one leeching off Lindsey, it is more the other way around. Lindsey may be all of the things you pointed out, but her behavior has made her poison in Hollywood, hence she is hardly working like she used to be.
Both of these girls are effed up and they both need to stay away from the other. Simple as that. Lindsey, however, is her own worst enemy and people need to quit blaming others for her problems and see that she needs to take responsibility for the way her life is.
“Very accomplished singer?” On what planet? Sam was very well-known before she let herself get sucked in the Lohan vortex.
Its 100% clear that LL doesn’t give two shits about anyone but herself & that she will drag everyone around her down until they are as miserable as she is.
I wish she would OD so I would have to stop reading about her.
Bodhi, have you ever really listened to any of her music??
I think it is pretty good….But if you really want to hear what a real singer is supposed to sound like just visit this site and let me know what you think…I’m curious to have your opinion…
Go to myspace.com/theonlybrelandkent
No offense intended at all Ramona, but people who keep making excuses for Lindsay and excusing her behaviour are NOT HELPING HER AT ALL. If you are truly a fan, you’d want Lindsay to accept resonsibility for herself and her lifestyle – something which is completely her “fault”, or completely her responsibility to put a more positive spin on it for you – AND GET HELP. Until she takes responsibility she’ll keep sinking lower & lower until she’s dead. Addicts are masters of deception – they’ll do & say ANYTHING you want them to as long as they can get their next fix. It is not until they can recognize what they’ve become and accept responsibility that they can even begin to get help. Making excuses for her & pointing the finger at everyone but her simply allows her to live the way she’s living, if you can call it living, and prevents her from getting the help she desperately needs. In the end, it does not matter one bit who did what to you, or who you think was unfair to you, or whatever – you have to grow the f*ck up, stop blaming everyone else, and get yourself some help (obviously I’m talking about Lohan here, not you 😛 )
I wish her fans could see that by making excuses for her they’re doing her NO FAVOURS. Not that I care, I despise this twat LOL, but still, I don’t wish such misery on anyone.
I think Sam is way too fucked up herself to give anyone else advice. But, she’s not the one to blame for Lindsay’s problems. Lindsay is no little kid. She’s an adult and responsible for her actions. Lindsay leads this erratic lifestyle because she wants to. No one forced her to live surrounded by permissive sycophants, no one forced her to take drugs, no one made her destroy her career and become the biggest joke ever. She could’ve stopped it all, if she was smart enough to admit her problem and seek help.
Lindsay is hardly “accomplished”. Her movies were bombs. Her music is craptastic. The only nice thing she did ever was A Prairie Home Company, but her role was too small. Fortunately, because her acting sucks. The project she has lined up will not the biggest thing ever to her career. Machete is pretty much a B-movie. Robert Rodriguez doesn’t write good characters, especially for women. I bet her work is to show her boobs in some scene. I don’t believe in a comeback for Lindsay, a la RDJ or Mickey Rourke. She’s not talented like them.
Just a reminder, Sam is a millionaire heiress. Unlike Lindsay, she has nothing to prove. She can spend her whole life being stupid, because she can afford to. Her family is filthy rich, her brother is a famous producer and her sister is a fashion designer. Working for her is a hobby.
Which one was the “very accomplished singer” and how long ago was that?
I don’t know her music from Adam, but it’s not for nothing to become proficient at turntablism. I’m not involved that genre, but I have met some musicians who are through work, seminars, research, etc.
It’s really complicated stuff, and some conservatories are offering diploma programs in it. I saw a three-minute instructional video at a seminar once, and I was overstimulated like a goat in a can store.
But isn’t her brother Mark Ronson? I’d think that could provide as big of a boost as anything.
1. Samantha is heiress to a Hilton-sized fortune. She does not need Lindsay. She does not even need to work.
2. lindsay’s movies have been steadily doing worse and worse. Her last real blockbuster was in 2005. Do the math. Lindsay is box office poison.
I suspect Sam’s been in love with Linds since 2004, if not before. Sam shows up in a number of old pictures, being the mom, caring for linds, probably hoping for recognition someday.
And Samantha has always seemed like the type whose heart is far bigger than her brain.
It’s possible that Samantha’s song “Play Stop Rewind” was actually inspired by.. something.. that happened between her and Lindsay many years ago.
Also with a powerhouse producer brother, yea that’d be Mark Ronson, Grammy winner, I doubt Samantha will ever lack for work connections.
As far as “singer”, Samantha’s voice is a bit softer, not as much projection, but she is better than lindsay at matching and holding her pitch.
agreeing to go to counseling with lindsa was probably the only way linds would agree to go.
I have a lot of empathy for young women hell-bent on self destruction, but for whatever reason I really can’t muster much compassion for LiLo. Maybe it’s because she’s always been a self-entitled twat? (With horrible taste in fashion.)
I’m sure Sam means well, but ultimately this can cause more harm than good. It’s just another outlet for Linds to play her “poor me” routine, and point out how many people have wronged her in the past.
And when the couples counseling doesn’t work (and it won’t) Linds will always lord the experience over Sam, and use it to further validate/justify her (incredibly selfish) behavior.
Seen it a million times. No good can come of this.
jaundicemac: And the choir said AMEN.
Well Ramonna sorry my poor English it’s not my first language but i can understand well what everyone here is saying and you may have noticed that the majority does not agree with you and fortunately for me they are better at expressing what I would want to say. Hope that you will not be so permissive or the type of mother who always puts the blame for the failures of his son/daughter in the other child and think your child is an “angel” and never do anything wrong This tactic worked well for Dina that even today thinks everyone is against her “little girl”
M, Nobody has to agree with me…not even you…I just state my opinion just like everyone else…All I’m saying is that there are two sides to every story and I am glad that people are voicing their opinion in reference to mine ….It is a welcome honor…including yours….
Hey M,
First of all, sorry you have to defend yourself against ignorant idiots like Ramona. I think “she” might actually be a Lohan…
Anyway, I also agree with you about Blohan never having been held accountable for anything by her parents. I have been in education for almost 20 years, (mostly private schools) and have seen it all. It is NEVER the kid’s fault; it is always the teacher, or another kid. I knew of a boy who was busted for drugs, and the parents actually sent him on a vacation to the Caymen Islands to “recover” from the stress. Dina Lohan is no different-every time Blohan was arrested or caught with drugs, her moronic mother defended her actions and blamed the media, or her friends. Blohan is a screwed up druggie, with major issues, and until she AND her family take responsibilty, she will continue with her downward spiral.
Hey Sox…I think your the ignorant DUMBASS idiot!! So you have seen it all teaching in private schools??? Give me a break while I go gag myself and vomit….I can tell you are not a parent and if you are then I pity your poor children!!
i dont think u should say lindsay has a ” lack of basic intellect”..i think shes smart its just that she doesnt truly have a mother…
I must be the only one who doesn’t get the attraction of Sam. Does she ever smile? She always looks like she’s coming or going from a bar. And she’s not even boyishly cute just grungy, mopey, and dope-y.
LL could use some jesus in her life along with the counselling. At this stage of the game she cannot got without his support. It worked for me!
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