Don’t hate me for forgetting Beyonce! I didn’t really FORGET Beyonce at the Golden Globes, it was more like… I just assume that Beyonce is always there, omnipresent, omniscient and goddess-like. Actually, I just forgot because she didn’t walk the red carpet and there were not many of photos of her. But the Queen understand how this works, so on Monday, she dropped the full-length photos of her Schiaparelli look, and she authorized her stylist to speak to the Hollywood Reporter:
While Beyoncé wowed per usual in a glorious custom look by Schiaparelli with on-trend voluminous golden sleeves at the 2020 Golden Globes on Sunday night, many viewers were frustrated by Bey’s lack of airtime.
The best original song nominee (for “Spirit” from The Lion King) skipped the red carpet and was not a presenter, so also had no time on stage. (She and Jay-Z arrived fashionably late, and were asked to stand and wait to be seated, as documented by The Hollywood Reporter’s awards columnist Scott Feinberg). Beyond that, the pro photographers somehow didn’t manage to snap her. And then she and Jay-Z made an early exit. So images of the power couple were few and far between. To make up for it, Bey and Jay conducted their own private photo sesh, posted to Instagram on Monday morning.
Beyoncé’s stylist Zerina Akers chatted with The Hollywood Reporter about the look: “When I first laid eyes on Daniel Roseberry’s debut collection at Schiaparelli, I knew I wanted to work with him” she said. “I loved his approach to volume and wanted Beyoncé to be one of the first to dawn the new haute couture style of the house. I leaped at the first chance to work with the Schiaparelli team on a custom project and they delivered. Lorraine Schwartz sealed the deal with these custom earrings and rings!”
Apparently, she wore $8 million worth of diamonds. If someone loaned me that many diamonds, I would want to be photographed from all angles by hundreds of photographers. Anyway, her look was great, especially compared to the trainwreck style we saw from many of the women. Also: when people did get a glimpse at Beyonce during the show, they couldn’t stop talking about how she remained seated when Joaquin Phoenix won:
Beyoncé sitting during the standing ovation for Joaquin Phoenix's win is the type of energy I want to see from everyone in 2020 pic.twitter.com/EJD8uq4mHq
— Sam Stryker (@sbstryker) January 6, 2020
Which is fine by me – it’s not like she was in Joaquin’s path and she needed to move out of the way. She was comfortable and she probably thought “Joker wasn’t even good, I’m not standing.”
In addition to that, Beyonce and Jay-Z brought their own bottles of champagne!! They brought two bottles of Ace of Spades (Armand de Brignac) champagne (held by a bodyguard), and when The Morning Show table ran out of booze or water, Reese Witherspoon asked if Beyonce and Jay would share and they did! So Jennifer Aniston and Reese drank Jay’s champagne.
. @Beyonce and Jay-Z just walked in. They're waiting until Kate McKinnon finishes speaking to take their seats. Is their bodyguard carrying bottles of alc for them? pic.twitter.com/eeB7NPHW4g
— Amy Kaufman (@AmyKinLA) January 6, 2020
Photos courtesy of Instagram, Avalon Red.
As much as I have been shying away from the big poufy shoulders, she looks fantastic!
She’s one of the very few who could pull this off. She’s just beautiful.
Simply breathtaking. I literally gasped and clapped.
Yes it looks good on her. Not the other actress in yesterday’s post.
It works with the VERY low cut neckline.
Not bad, but too much house of dereon.
I like Beyonce and all but am I the only one who thinks she’s not exactly the brightest? And the aura of mystery she has is because she’s just not interesting to talk to. Jay-Z however is intelligent and street smart.
Same here. Also I think she looks a bit unhappy. Either that or she is over it.
+1
Maybe she arrived late to avoid thirsty Gwyneth jumping all over her for a photo op to promote her Netflix series
That’s exactly what I think. I think she’s smart in having learned that having a lot less of her goes a long way, but I think by virtue of her surprise dropping projects and not speaking ever people have decided she’s this amazing mysterious queen instead of a fairly average celebrity. I don’t know man. The constant adulation is strange to me.
I think she’s very talented and extremely beautiful. But I don’t think she is a genius and I don’t think she has particularly good style.
I’m so happy we think alike. Not speaking a lot is a great choice I wonder if someone suggested it to her. First her father, then Jay-Z and her team. I’m jaded but there is probably not much behind the surface so giving us PR info, glam pictures and videos only was the perfect choice for her. She’s interesting without being interesting herself if that makes any sense. I really don’t get her Queen status, her being above other celebrities.
I’ve always thought Beyonce is one of those women who is beautiful but as soon as she opens her mouth it’s all downhill from there.
Phew…glad I’m not alone. While she is indeed very talented & beautiful I just don’t get the constant worshipping of her. I’m all for having a favorite celebrity/entertainer but the level some get elevated to is just insane. They’re still just people, albeit very rich & famous people, but people.
I have a hard time thinking of someone who has been so accomplished for so long, and who has managed to navigate the pitfalls of fame without crashing and burning (as so many others have) as dumb. It’s actually smart to avoid saying too much and tweeting too much. We’ve seen a lot of people destroy their careers that way, particularly in recent years. There are many different types of intelligence. Not all smart people are great speakers and not all great speakers are smart.
I will never forget her talk show appearances to promote Dreamgirls. Painful. Nonsense about putting a photo of an Oscar on her treadmill to motivate her. Dead eyes.
That said, she’s smart enough to know what she doesn’t know. No more interviews and she and her team are expert at putting together great albums and a mysterious image.
Agree. Remember that HBO documentary a while back? It was like listening to Sarah Palin present in a gen ed philosophy class.
I agree with @Leigh: Beyoncé is brilliant in many genres but not a great speaker. To know how to showcase her many many superb talents, and to *not* detract from them by showing off her weaknesses, is a great strategy.
Um, what about her Oscar-worthy turn in Austin Powers 3, hellooo?
She’s smart enough to realize that people want “Beyonce.” If she delivers that and just shuts up and keeps her real-world self very, very private she gets the best of both worlds.
Reminds me of Bruce Springsteen. He writes these amazing songs, but when he did a Songwriter’s show for VH1, it was just awful. He basically went “this is a song about…” and recapped the lyrics. Both Bs are self taught and intuitive in their art and guard their “real” self from the public.
Now I’m interested in his biography. Heard great things about it, but that could just be fans. Should I check back in on another Beyonce post?
Yay, several people agree with me, I thought I was alone.
She’s this icon but basically it’s almost all PR we don’t know the real her and it’s smart. I think her team is really strategic and she’s coached. I just feel her emptiness and not only when to comes to public speaking but in general. No more interviews because she was so bad yet she still is held to queen B goddess status. Sorry to mention her here.. Yet Kate Middleton is branded as dumb.
I disagree. I think people underestimate how far you can get with just talent and hard work. Also if you don’t have mental health problems, don’t have substance abuse issues, and are talented and/or lucky it does not seem that hard to avoid any pitfalls. Jenny McCarthy is a literal anti-vaxxer and has been working consistently for decades. Robert Deniro also seems kind of dim and has been quite successful. And frankly idk if Beyoncé did avoid any missteps considering she married Jay-Z.
I just feel like it implicitly blames the poor and/or unsuccessful when every successful person is by virtue of success deemed to be intelligent.
@Ladylaw – Are you seriously comparing Beyonce to Jenny McCarthy??? Beyonce has been doing A LOT more than “working consistently.” She’s been dominating for the better part of two decades. There are plenty of talented, hard-working, sober and sane people who have not managed to come anywhere close. And she’s managed to do all of that without running around encouraging people to endanger the lives of their children. It’s ridiculous how the standards of success and intelligence for black women are measured so differently than the standards for white women. It’s also ridiculous to blame her for Jay-Z’s shortcomings. Would you classify Hillary Clinton as being unintelligent because she married a cheater?
I don’t see how she could maintain fame at her level if she’s not smart. Not sharing things is smart – it adds more punch and importance when she does.
She may not be book smart, but she does have some level of street smarts when it comes to this business. She has been very successful in navigating a solo career.
What does it matter? She’s talented and at the very least smart enough to hire smart people to run her business. Smart is recognizing your limits.
^^This exactly^^
And I’m not a Beyonce fan. She’s got the right people and she’s listening to them. That’s smart.
There’s a difference between being smart & being good at interviews or witty on the spot in a public forum. I have no doubt that she is very intelligent, but it could be that she doesn’t shine at every single thing in the world, like interviews. She’s played this “flaw” well, so again, she’s a smart cookie.
Exactly. And she’s also the type of person to not stand if her outfit is exactly situated the way she wants and doesn’t care to mess it up by rising for a few seconds only to sit back down again lol.
This is what I believe is happening here too. No shame! That’s a log of dress, I’d probably sit also.
*lot of dress, sorry
Yes it’s smart to be mysterious instead of outgoing if you’re not super articulate. Being intelligent isn’t black or white though she has value and things to add even if she doesn’t come off as smart as someone who can do well in any interview
How pitiful to judge someone more successful than yourself as “not the brightest” if she’s not, then what perhaps are you other than jealous?
So basically I have no right to judge anyone, ok. So maybe we should all stop judging the Kardashians, Trump because they’re way more successful than us?
Honestly, how tacky to ask other guests if they can share their bottles. Reese, I’m side-eyeing you for this.
No more tacky than arriving late for an event.
And bringing your own booze!! That’s super tacky.
Bringing your own booze is even against the law in many places. In a venue with an alcohol license, they must supply and serve the liquor. But I guess those rules are only for us peasants.
@Another Anne – please google “corkage”
Lemme sum this up for my people: white women are on here saying Beyonce isn’t smart, the “kind” ones choose “street smart but not book smart coz God forbid a black woman is both. She is also dumb for marrying Jay Z (who is also just street smart and not book smart, whatever that means but we know what THEY mean). she is tacky for being late and bringing her own drink. They are sooo over her for not being more vocal and being mysterious but they also believe she shouldn’t be speaking coz she’s not very good at it. Caucasians, did i report your comments correctly? if not, i apologize I’m obviously just street smart as well.
Um, I’ve called Jay-Z both intelligent and street smart while calling Bey not the brightest. I don’t blame her for not giving interviews if that’s the case. Her whole team is great. Please don’t bring racism into this. You’ve complied all the anti-arguments from several posters to bring your point.
@Liriel did you just tell a WOC to not talk about racism?? 🤔
respectfully, I appreciate @flylikeabird ‘s comment. I’m thinking about it and i believe there is a valid critique there. thanks flylikeabird.
I walked away from the comments feeling like they were lowkey racist. I think FlyLikeABird hit the nail on the head. Beyonce said her piece on why she doesn’t like doing interviews, and she has achieved a level of stardom where she has the privilege not to do so. How someone intuits from that level of success that she is not the brightest is insane to me, as is the assumption that she doesn’t give interviews because she can’t speak well. No one is making these types of assumptions about Harrison Ford, Bill Murray, etc.
But she’s an American Citizen….
… their bodyguard held 2 bottles, I doubt their table had enough to share once the Morning Show ran out. I’m also sure the venue wouldn’t let tables run it of water!!!
Jay has been extremely vocal about supporting black-owned businesses and not giving money/clout to brands that don’t support their interests (look up comments made my Cristal ownership years ago)
From his and Beyoncé’s song Family Feud:
“Nah, we did that, black-owned things
Hundred percent, black-owned champagne“
And
“I’ll be damned if I drink some Belvedere while Puff got Ciroc”
@Wamamax3 ah interesting! I hadn’t even considered their reasons.
Also Ace of Spades is terrible champagne!
Tackier than bringing your own drinks?
Arriving late _and_ bringing your own brew? That’s a bit rude, isn’t it? (a cheap PR stunt for his brand)
Thinking the same thing. Show up on time and drink what everyone else is drinking, or don’t go. Rude.
Seriously, I think she was avoiding Gwyneth’s thirst run that evening
Doesn’t Moet sponsor the GG’s, too?
I like Beyonce but yeah…showing up an hour late, being the only one to sit down when everyone else is giving a standing ovation, and bringing Jay’s liquor to a party where Moet is the sponsor…it’s more than a bit rude.
I actually saw JayZ pouring for people — shamless promotion…. LOL
Well you don’t expect them to drink what all those common millionaire/celebs were drinking..
So rude. The “air of mystery” isn’t the best PR move when you’re campaigning for an Oscar. I doubt voters were wooed by the stunt.
I freaking love Beyonce but even I think this was a little much.
Another chapter of celebrities who live in their own special snowflake bubble…
Yeah, so there are celebrities and uber celebrities.
That gown is amazing!
I love it. It’s somehow completely over the top but elegant all at the same time. LOVE. THAT.
Well let’s hope the next time she wins something and a member of the audience opts for keeping his butt on his seat, her rabid fans will brush it off and not drag him endlessly for just being comfortable .
Kidding, such an audacious soul will have to go into hiding or writing a masterpiece apology essay.
Yeah, that really bugged me. And I’m going to have to disagree with Kaiser about it being ‘fine’ because she was probably ‘comfy’. Like – I get it. We hate the Joker. But if this were happening to Bey, I’d bet my last dollar on the person doing it to be hounded relentlessly by her stans.
I have nothing against Beyonce. She’s talented. She puts on a SHOW. But if she remained seated for no reason other than ‘eh, comfy, didn’t like the joker anyway’ that’s pretty lame. I’m not expecting her to be a personal cheerleader for him, but you’re in the SAME ROW. At least stand up – even if you don’t want to go nuts clapping. You’re at the award show, so it’s not like you’re above clapping for the winners it because you’re already participating in the silly event.
Unless there’s some sort of horrible Bey/Phoenix beef that I’m unaware of – then I’d be completely willing to reverse that comment about it being unfair. If she has a reason for remaining seated (not feeling well, pain, Joaquin beef) I support that. But if it was just ‘I’m comfy sitting’ that’s really lame.
i know this is a slightly different issue but at every theater show i have been to in nyc the audience gives a standing oh. i don’t feel like that. my ohs must be earned. if she didn’t like the performance, why should she stand? I mean you can respect the hard work without that ultimate gesture.
Does everything have to be a standing ovation?
No, but this was.
Again to you guys…what about Brie Larson not clapping for Casey Affleck (former co-conspirator of Joaquin Phoenix’s, don’t forget) at MULTIPLE awards shows? Don’t hurt your back while you stretch to defend that over this. None of us are obligated to clap/stand for anyone, my God.
This. Everyone has a choice as to whether to stand or not stand. Could be anything from her not feeling great to her not feeling that his performance was all that amazing. Her simple act of remaining seated is not worthy of anyone’s ire. Let’s save our disdain for actions that actually matter and have consequences.
First, the dress is ugly.
Second, I guess she didn’t get up because it takes some effort in that dress and the shapewear/corset she is wearing underneath. No shade from her side (or towards her).
I think it’s because the dress was hard to move in and arrange correctly too. There’s probably only three positions it’s tolerable in, and if those puffy sleeves get bumped 🤷🏼♀️
I imagine Jay-Z had to pull her up to be able to stand. Let her sit and look gorgeous from the neck up 😉
I could use less of both of them. The dress is ugly. Too much for the GG. He looks terrible. Ehhhh to both. And being THAT late is so not cool. Nevermind bringing in your own booze.
Too much? It’s not like other wore cocktail dresses from Zara and she wasn’t the only one with puffy sleeves.
@leriel i summarized all the bitter Beckys on this post not just you. It’s funny how you immediately felt targeted. guilty conscience? I did not bring racism into it , you, karens and Beckys did. It’s always telling how pointing out your misogynoir aggressions always gets met with accusation of bringing race into it. “race is the child of racism, not its father” Ta-Nehisi Coates.
For me, the top pic is iconic– incredibly elegant and simply gorgeous.
For the dramatic photo shoot, the dress it’s interesting, but sitting at a table with other people, the huge shoulders look ridiculous.
I see my fellow Celebitches are bringing the same kind of energy into Beyonce posts in 2020 than in 2019. So much salt, so much to unpack, so much “who does this dumb lady think she is?” Can’t wait to read the comments on the first Blue Ivy post of the year!!
More salt in here than the Dead Sea.
But don’t you know she is doing too much with her dressing up to attend an award show? It’s not as if she was at the Golden Globes afterall, as a nominee no less.
It’s interesting to see the same people who put on their white savior suits for a different WOC in these comment sections dog-whistling about Beyoncé any time she comes up.
Keep the same energy.
@Enn, Yep I noticed the different vibes. This is one of the many reasons I never read the comments underneath Meghan’s stories. There is something especially unnerving about reading all these women defending her from racism in the British media, knowing they will be acting like the Royal reporters they loathe when it comes to Beyonce or another black celebrity they dislike.
Oh, and real talk between you and me? There is a lot of energy to defend the BIRACIAL duchess married to a WHITE man but the comment sections looks like a Faux news segment when it comes to the black couple. Something to think about.
@Sarah, yeah, we’re seeing eye to eye here. A lot of talk about stunts, intelligence, rudeness and whatnot when it’s a powerhouse black couple. Reminds me of when Homecoming dropped and a lot of people purposely missed the point of it as a celebration of black excellence and HBCUs.
Thanks Sarah, their empathy for black women ends with Duchess Meghan. It’s is hypocritical to say the least.
Watch and learn, black women. You too can work really hard, become really famous and successful and in the end just be a dumb lady who doesn’t know her place.
it’s a gossip blog. have you not read the comments on paltrow? stop making something out of nothing.
The second comment is literally intuiting that a black 38-year old mother of three, who is worth over $470 million on her own and clearly one of the hardest working entertainers in the game, maintains an aura of mystery because she is “not exactly the brightest” and “not interesting to talk to”. You could float in this water without trying.
🍊No, valid points are being made. The trouble is, when some live to play the role of cold, dismissive older white woman nearly every time women outside of that demographic point out a problem, everything seems like something made of nothing.
It is misogynistic to talk this way about older white women. And ageist.
The issue is if you took this story and substituted Beyonce with Sandra Bullock, you would not see anywhere near the same level of hateful comments over (1) being late, (2) not standing for Joaquin Phoenix to get an award, and (3) bringing alcohol to the event (which clearly was the right move since others ran out, and has its origins in a dispute Jay-Z had over racist comments by the owner of Cristal several years ago). It isn’t misogyny to point out racial blind spots.
🙄White men and white women can both express the kinds of attitudes Terry Gilliam expressed when racism and misogyny are discussed, and deserve to be called out. Pointing it out when specific white women have a pattern of behaving that way is not misogyny. Acknowledging the position age gives people in the culture, and how specific ones abuse that power in those discussions to mean “my anti-political correctness is proof of my maturity and toughness” is not a critique of the aging process.
@jules and Jenner, I’m an 43 yr old white woman and I agree w otaku. Women my age and older are the worst. From blaming women for being raped (things like: look at the way they were dressed, no wonder he thought she wanted it), to excusing men for anything they do ( she was dressed too sexy, gave him mixed signals, boys will be boys). I definitely see a generation difference in how things are viewed. I view things from a younger generation POV so I often see things differently. It might be stereotyping but imo, it’s pretty much right on. All this uproar over imo minor shit is typical of older white women who don’t like black women who are too confident and/or outspoken.
💞Thank you, Joanna (and the funny thing is, one of them has went into that toxic territory fairly recently that you’re pointing out). Somebody gets it! Of course what I said doesn’t apply to all older women/white women/ older white women. There are plenty of progressive, compassionate allies from those demographics who do not dismiss or abuse younger woc/woc, etc. for making observations about racism and sexism in our society. A lot of us really appreciate them, they deserve our support. One of the things they typically don’t do is pull out the white tears just because abusive behavior people from their demographic frequently engage in is being mentioned.
I’m glad someone said it because damn, some people are really, really salty. She didn’t stand up for some guy getting his award? Ok. She and her husband showed up late? Stuff happens. They brought their own booze? So what. They’re at the Golden Globes for heavens sake. A party celebrating celebrities. I find it refreshing that they have a casual attitude about this Hollywood circle jerk. Yet here we have people calling her dim and uninteresting? Take a deep breath casual racists, women of color can be smart and successful and don’t have to fit in the tiny box that you’ve allocated for them. And I’m not even a Bey fan but cripes, you guys are rough.
Clearly the snippy white people are up and the Beyhive is still getting their beauty sleep because the comments here so far are a mess…
I’m also a snippy white person who waaay back in the day wasn’t a big fan of Beyonce, thought she was too full of herself, but I really took the time to examine those thoughts and opened my eyes to the way Beyonce gets so much unnecessary hate from white people. Once you see it you can’t unsee it. (Wonder why she stood up for Meghan so quickly hmmm…)
Jay z and Beyonce have their issues (they’re still ultimately billionaires with all the problematic attachments that has) but Jay z started his own champagne company because he didn’t like the racism of existing companies towards hip hop.
At the VERY WHITE golden globes this year, I can understand why they bring their own bottles and also why she isn’t wasting her energy on carpets and standing around just to be falsely told she’s not as good as people who will never have to work as hard as her. (Beyonce, in her career, is much less awarded than someone like Taylor swift who is…not as good.)
I’m not even a *big* fan, I didn’t listen to lemonade until it came out on other streaming platforms a year or two later, but a certain type of white person can’t stand Beyonce and sorry but the comments here are looking that way…
Yeah, honestly, the subliminal racism in a lot of these comments is notable.
The idea that she is stupid, crass for bringing alcohol, crass for not standing up (who cares?)—ridiculous, lol.
That comment section is one big microaggression. It’s gonna ask to touch my hair.
LOL!
Comment of the day there to Sarah. I actually LOL’ed.
They arrived and hour late, brought their own booze and she didn’t stand because they can. They’re ultra A-list. The Globes need them more than they need the Globes.
I’m not always a fan of Jay, but his comments on why he will no longer patronize white-owned, conglomerate champagne makers is on point, and good for him for not just talking the talk, but walking the walk. Also, Joaquin Phoenix is exhausting, and I’m fine with anyone who doesn’t indulge his Method, self-important B.S.
As for fashion, she looks flawless, per usual, and I think he’s just so-so. Though that velvet jacket is working, I loathe the flavor saver on his chin and the droopy, ’70s-style bow tie, but since they’re both undoubtably style icons, I expect we’ll be seeing a lot more of that Rat Pack chic.
The comment section is a mess. I feel like it’s even worse than usual. I know they are different women but it’s so annoying to see all the Karens and Beckys being pressed about Bey not giving Joaquim a standing ovation when he won for that trash movie of his (quick aside, Joaquim and Casey Affleck were sexual assault buddies back in the day, funny how y’all forgot about that) but yesterday they were all over the website fawning over the likes of Jennifer Aniston, a woman who spent most of the last decade being BFF with a noted racist, or even worse defending n-word user Ricky Gervais.
Anyway, disappointed but not surprised.
Thank you, Sarah! I had not forgotten about the Casey Affleck connection, but a lot here seem to have. Also, Jen’s connection to Chelsea handler and her racist B.S.
The questions about Bey’s intelligence are so gross. The way they talk about Blu Ivy is disgusting, you’d think she was an adult already. And then blaming Bey for Jays actions. It’s weird and disappointing to see people being so hateful toward a person whose almost completely inoffensive, it’s bizarre, and well… you know.
I didn’t read the comments in Bey threads for a long time Because of the salty bitterness, but then they started to get better… I guess we’re going backward and now this site is full of Ricky Gervais stans?? I wish I were surprised.
Glad some of you were brave enough to even make these observations. In case you get attacked for it, just remember: Some of the same ladies doing it will be the same ones who have called discussing hate crimes unfair to whites, cry misandry and reverse racism at every imagined opportunity, and blame adult misogynoir directed at Blue Ivy on her mother not doing enough to hide her daughter’s face from public view. 🍵
Preach, Yokoohno!
Great comment Yokoohno!
Jay Z is all about his own Black owned businesses. This was a masterful PR move and it is working. Don’t forget he is in cahoots with the NFL. Jay Z is about being a billionaire first and being Black second.
Thanks for the info regarding Jay and his champagne label – I didn’t know about that and judging be the comments I am not the only one. As its mostly PR for his own brand I still find it rude.
@ yokoohno, agree with everything you said.
If she arrived when Kate McKinnon was speaking, that was, what, an hour into the show? That’s a pretty late arrival, especially considering someone made a dress for you and someone loaned you lots of diamonds (presumably for the red carpet.)
I thought the borrowing of champagne was funny though – Jennifer Aniston’s IG for the Globes was good, she has one really gorgeous pic of her in her dress, a pic of her getting ready, etc. It was interesting to see.
I think her stylist may have had to release a statement about her dress and jewels bc she didnt show up on the red carpet. Not many companies want to lend things for free (even to Beyonce) without getting some publicity.
Oh please do you ladies see the amount of likes on her IG post??? plenty people saw her dress.
Yeah, I’m pretty sure that Beyonce wearing your dress is enough publicity as is. Hilarious that anyone thinks that a fashion designer is going to dictate or be disappointed about what Beyonce does in her or his dress. Looks like she got plenty of attention for that dress.
Since when is full participation in a standing ovation required? I see tons of Bway shows a year, and I won’t stand if I don’t want to. Such a bizarre criticism.
I missed her on Christmas, somehow all my “end of the years” are related to her albums.
Arriving late and bringing their own booze…?
Tacky.
I think standing ovations are overdone and I have for years. Not every thing requires one. I like Bey more for this.
She is talented, but extremely overrated. I don’t see the big deal about her at all.
She doesn’t pose for photos because she doesn’t look like her IG photos in real life or carpet photos. She looks bored and uncomfortable. Gained quite a bit of weight lately and is trying to hide it
Why do they need a bodyguard at the GG, do other celebs bring bodyguards? The dress is awful 😆.
Beyoncé is a creative genius. She works very hard and demands the best of herself and her team but there’s a innate brilliance there that no amount of work or production could create.
She is so beautiful. I love the dress. She looks stunning as usual.
My Beyoncé claim to fame story……I sat close to her last year in Oakland at the NBA Finals game. I’m telling you, she was as gorgeous in person as she is on screen.
Woah, these comments. I’ll see myself out. I hope this isn’t indicative of what the comments are going to be like on POC posts for the rest of the year.
Ugh, I can’t with her. Am i the only one who thinks arriving late to such event is totally disrespectful? And of course she did it on purpose just to “promote” Jay-Z champagne and basically doing product placement.
I always thought that nobody was let in after the show started. But I guess being Beyoncé it would’ve made it worse letting her out. God forbid
Beyonce is a star in the old sense and has been one for several decades. I’m sure the golden globes was happy to let her in.
Wow. These comments. The vitriol. Ok.
My favorite of these comments is “I don’t get her appeal” “totally overrated” “self-important” “she’s so dumb that’s why she doesn’t give interviews”.. blablabla well for all we know they were stuck in traffic.
Second.. You can hate her all you want but recognize she is talented.
Third.. speaking well means nothing if you don’t put in the work. Trying to say that her success is due to her team and she’s just a dumb puppet is just stupid and honestly racist. Tons of people have great teams and still can’t make it work.
She doesn’t have to act any way other than respectful and polite to other human beings. She’s not here to act the way you deem appropriate. She’s no longer looking for acceptance.
She has many flaws but i will never open my mouth to say she’s dumb/not talented/ugly etc. You people are mean.
Stop it. It’s disgusting.
The “don’t get her appeal” is specially ridiculous. I mean, who sings and dances like her? Her vocal range is remarkable even when she’s dancing at the same level of her professional dancers, I don’t see anyone, even from my teenage years (Britney, Christina, Pink) doing that.
The misogynoir really rears its ugly head on posts about Beyoncé. So depressingly predictable. She’s crass for not standing for the ovation (but praise for Brie Larson for not applauding Casey Affleck’s win), she’s dumb (ignoring the brilliance of Lemonade, her Coachella performance, and her 20 years of success), she’s rude for being late (while she stands patiently to take her seat to not interrupt Kate McKinnon’s speech), and how dare they bring their own champagne (which they shared on request and brought as a political act to not support brands that aren’t owned by POC), and the usual “I just don’t get why people revere her” when Black women explain exactly why on post after post.
Thank you, MariaS. The white tears and outrage on a Beyonce post…Jesus. I thought immediately of Brie Larson not clapping for Casey Affleck THROUGHOUT that awards season. You know, Joaquin Phoenix’s former bro-in-law/partner in crime? No outrage there. I hope all of the Beckys who felt the need to speak their mind about the “uppity” (you know that’s the word they’re thinking) Beyonce can do a little self-reflection.
Who knows why they were late? Maybe something happened, a problem or something, that delayed them?
As for bringing champagne, there’s been more than a other celebs who have brought flasks and such to different award shows, and I feel like there’s been stories of others bringing other liquor or stuff to the Globes. It’s not a big deal.
For real! She’s a mom of 3 who had to strap into a ballgown for this event. Who knows what kind of emergencies/stains she faced on her way out the door
Has any (white) female celebrity been called dumb as often as Beyonce? Asking for a friend.
Paltrow.
Jessica Simpson.
Jessica Simpson….remember chicken of the sea?
No one ever said Britney was the brightest either.
Drew Barrymore, Miley.
Aniston constantly gets called out for only talking about tanning and make-up and being shallow and dumb. So what is your point?
Jenny McCarthy. All the Kardashian/Jenners. Britney. Jessica Simpson. Scar-Jo. Lohan
LOL Sarah…look at all of these posters bending over backwards trying to tell you that criticism of Beyonce is definitely not about race. L.O.L.
Dumb is not an adjective that accurately describes Beyonce. Full stop.
I personally dont think Beyonce is dumb and totally disagree with the poster who said that but Sarah asked if white women have been accused of being dumb and people replied with other women who have been deemed dumb. That’s not bending over backwards, that just answering Sarah’s question.
Justathought – If you read Sarah’s comments on the rest of this post, you would know that she was NOT just asking a question, she was making a point. A point a lot of people, including you, seemed to miss. Women of color consistently face racist microaggressions. I believe that’s the point Sarah is making. Anecdotal examples of white women just supports the points some of us on this thread are trying to make.
@Green we were just replying to her question, I dont think we were required to read every post Sarah made. Sarah asked a question we answered with facts. Beyonce, like many women, is subjected to stupid opinions that arent based on fact just like other famous women. I think you are 100% entitled to be angry with the original poster who said Beyonce isnt smart (again I disagree with this) but Saran wanted to know if other women have been deemed dumb based on opinions, we answered.
I think in this case, it stands out because she didn’t do anything deserving of being called stupid. She didn’t make any idiotic statements in the media or hijack the show. We call Paltrow and Simpson or Miley stupid because they put their ignorance in display via websites, shows, or social media drama – big difference, one you guys aren’t acknowledging, which is extremely disingenuous. Tacky, you could potentially argue for this behavior, but even that’s pushing it because it was clearly controlled enough that it only came out after the telecast aired and didn’t show up live.
But why dumb? Why dig into her intellect, suggest she isn’t responsible for her own fame? All because she, what, showed up late with booze (which she shared!)? That, IMO, is where I agree with the commenters here that are non-white that there’s an undertone to Beyoncé posts that I don’t see with white celebrities. Something subconscious, maybe, an insidious need to knock her down. Some of you maybe need to ask yourself why that is.
Veronica, FWIW, I’m white and I think its racist. To have an entire thread of people legitimately hypothesizing that she doesn’t give interviews because she is (a) dumb, (b) not interesting (what even?) or (c) can’t talk properly, and not because (1) anything she does is heavily scrutinized, (2) she achieved a level of stardom where she doesn’t need to give interviews, and (3) she wants to control her image because she wants to control how her work is received … it is just straight up depressing. The misogynoir is real and none of the white women referenced above are Beyonce-level successful.
And notice how those examples don’t have the excellence of Beyonce’s work, so one has a point to say that likes of Paltrow (questionable actress) and Jessica Simpson (called herself dumb once) aren’t smart.
No.
I like that she stayed seated during Joaquin (Jokin’!) Phoenix’s standing ovation. I think Joker was extremely overrated, and his ego is so inflated now. This is a repeat of Leo DiCaprio’s Oscar campaign that painted him as being “overdue” for an Oscar. Totally entitled and self-congratulatory.
I also get the feeling, although I really hope it’s not the case, that Joker inflamed or validated a lot of toxic masculinity already present in our culture. So the OTT congratulatory response Joaquin is getting from Hollywood also makes me uneasy.
So yeah, go Bey!! She’s the only female celeb who could stay seated during this kind of outpouring and I like that she exercised that professional power.
thank you.
I thought Joker was totally about fragile white male ego.
I actually really like the joker bc it shed light onto the idea that physchos are made not born. Most prolific serial killers suffered through some pretty shocking abuse in their lives which led them to their crimes. There is also some correlation between head injuries and extreme abuse/neglect that seem to be a common denominator. I didnt think it was about fragile Male ego but how abuse and neglect can have a truly detrimental effect. No what’s interesting is that women who face the same issues tend towards self distruction while their Male counterparts tend towards violence against others.
I agree with Justathought. Also I’d add that after seeing Joker my friend asked me “Do you also think we’re complicit in making psychopaths?”. I didn’t sleep well that night.
I’m sorry, I disagree with both of your comments. And I’ll first state that this is a typical example of the kind of privilege I’ve seen on these boards. A lot of the people, older women, on here have absolutely NO CLUE what other women, especially young women, are facing these days. A lot of women have dealt with worse than this Joker character and yet somehow, we still go on being good people. Imagine that!
Let me say now and be more explicit that the Joker movie and its popularity was alarming to me because it’s about this toxic “victimhood” and chips on shoulders that a lot of young men are carrying. 1. The horrific hatred toward mothers and the mother issue on display there. 2. The complete lack of identity, character, empathy or humor, lightness, or joy in the main character — And we’re supposed to sympathize with him? None of my male friends liked this movie, but you know who did? Those guys in that tacky neighborhood bar who glare at me when I walk in and I’m sure would not do a single thing to protect me if anything ever happened to me in that bar or right outside.
The question is not “Do you think we’re complicit in making psychopaths?” but “Do you think you’re complicit in letting violence go on to other women and good men?”
There you go. Sorry, but these kinds of ignorant comments make me absolutely IRATE at this point. My neighborhood board just posted a listing for self defense classes for women today. Everyone is on edge and fed up that this kind of apathy keeps going on.
@hmm I studied criminology in university for four years and continue to work in the field today so my comment comes education. There are many research papers that discuss the linkage between serial killers and childhood abuse/neglect that have been published over the years that back this claim up with facts. Also if you look at Manson, Ramirez, Gacy, fish and Henry Lee Lucas, all prolific serial killers, you will note that they were victims of childhood abuse. Also, as I noted in my original comment, women tend not to resort to violence however there are exceptions like Aileen Wournos and Rose West. Also crime stats have shown a steady decrease in violent crime rates since its peak in the early 90s. So please dont come in throwing insults around on a topic
Beyonce doesn’t need to stand for anyone if she doesn’t wish to, she doesn’t need to bow to artificial convention, she doesn’t have to arrive on the dot, she doesn’t have to give interviews. I LOVE that she is living her own life on her own terms, yes, as a Black woman in America. She’s a free woman, super rich, and an icon. So she was late. She isn’t harming anyone coming late or bringing her own drinks if she wants. (That was probably smart anyway, as Jennifer Aniston’s table apparently ran out of water and couldn’t get any more!) Who honestly are you all, Emily Post? I will always love her so deeply for Lemonade. I know she is not perfect, like some accusations of stealing others’ work, but come on. She’s so gifted. Calling her stupid for interviews when she was younger is unfair. No one who made Lemonade could be stupid. Also, I have a Ph.D. and I am awful if put on the spot in interviews! It means nothing. Anyone can have nerves.
@hmm wow you sound totally uneducated on the topic and yet you call others ignorant? You really need to start researching the psychology of crime before you comment bc you clearly have no idea what you are talking about.
Queen! I’m surprised she showed up at all considering the long history of award shows overlooking/ignoring her work. After the carpool karaoke loss I would never go to another event again. That’s why she’s the queen, less petty. Also, Spirit loss after she showed us what went into creating that song and the album?! 😒 Why would she stay for the whole thing? It was boring and a Sunday night. She got 3 kids at home she has to get ready for the week. I stan.
I feel like most people get forced into standing ovations by a few devotees of the winner’s project. Unless you are elderly, or an icon (see: Carol Burnett), or it’s a specific award for lifetime careers (Tom Hanks), I find the standing ovations at these awards shows appear forced and obsequious. It’s one of the main things I hate about awards shows. I really don’t think most people want to stand–but they do because they don’t want to be called out.
Why was there a standing ovation for Joaquin and Brad?
That look gives her no favour. She looks… ridiculous.
I like Beyonce, always have. That said, did anyone notice when the camera was on their table, Jay got up to make a toast and everyone was drinking but Beyonce. I truly thought we’d get a “Beyonce is pregnant again” conspiracy but nope, nothing.
I’ve been wondering this, but for months It would make sense that they brought their own bottles and were barely papped.
The only real question i have about them coming late is whether that bothers the designers who loan the outfit/jewelry – they don’t get that red carpet moment. Or does this all get enough buzz anyways that they don’t care?
Beyonce looked very elegant and luxurious.
So what if she didn’t stand for Joaquin! Have people forgotten his MeToo issues and general douche behavior?
agreed. I wouldn’t stand up for him either. Also i am constantly trying to smuggle in my own booze. But it is def not legal- at least here in Mass. Maybe that’s because I’m bringing it to work..:)
I’m a proud Black woman and I’ve never been a fan of Beyonce and have major issues with Jay-Z, the former drug dealer who cheated on his wife to the point that his sister-in-law had to kick his ass in an elevator while her sister just stood there.
I think it’s tacky to bring bottles of your own stuff to an event, unless you have dietary issues. Beyonce and Jay-Z could have hosted their own party and kept their stuff flowing. But Moet is the sponsor of the GGs. And arriving late to an event like this isn’t ‘fashionable’; it’s unprofessional. There’s a lot of timing involved with a show like this and guests need to be in their seats before the cameras start rolling.
If Beyonce didn’t stand for the Joker winning because she has issues with the film or with Phoenix, who has been accused of harassing women, then okay. But I think it was probably because she couldn’t stand in her dress. What would she have done if she’d won the award?
So I think that Beyonce and Jay-Z were a bit tacky that night. But when you’re in a room with Ricky Gervais spewing his lame bile or Gwyneth Paltrow wearing THAT dress, you’re going have to work VERY hard to be the tackiest person at that affair.
^^ THIS.
I’ll sit over here with you.
I’m also a black woman. I don’t dislike Beyonce (Jay, I actively dislike), but I’m not a superfan. Personally, I’m more into Solange.
I’m additcted to Solange’s music!
I prefer Solange as well. I like her sense of style much better than House of Dead Wrong. I also think that when Solange refers to African-American iconography, she actually has an idea of what she’s referring to.
And I will always be here for a woman who was willing to kick a motherfucker’s ass if he hurt her sister.
Has Phoenix been accused of harassing women – isnt it just his colleagues? Though that was a sick toxic misogynist environment he was in and that turned me off him as well. I used to be a big fan before that movie he did with Casey Affleck. But I read he doesnt talk to him anymore which I liked because I thought it maybe showed some loyalty to his sister (who was married to Affleck and divorced him.)
But as far as Beyonce goes, anyone saying Beyonce is stupid….is really stupid.
Is her intelligence highly focused into certain areas? Absolutely. Her sustained creativity and success is not an accident and she’s no puppet. That we were all that “dumb”. Please.
@Eastbound, I didn’t say ANYTHING about Beyonce’s intelligence.
Kerwood you’ve worded it perfectly.
Earthbound I called Beyonce not the brightest. Not stupid. She’s talented. But she doesn’t give interviews anymore literally because she’s not well spoken. As for creativity a lot of effort from her PR team.
@leriel I understand that your racist brain is literally incapable of appreciating a black woman of Beyonce’s calibre and black women in general. But how hard is it to simply refrain from voicing out your racist thought? It can’t be that hard. Unless you believe your freedom of expression trumps black women’s dignity and freedom from hate speech?
Liriel, your many comments on this post tell me nothing about Beyonce but a lot about you. And if some of you are black women as you claim, having Liriel agree with you has me shaking my head.
@Purple
Wait. So, all black women MUST be beyonce superfans? And we’re responsible for ignorant white women who happen to comment on the same thread? Get outta here with that. It’s immature and just as eye-roll-worthy as lirel’s comments.
I don’t think Bey is dumb. I don’t think she’s untalented. It’s just not my thing, and I like Solange’s vibe more. It’s allowed.
(And yes, I’m black.)
Nice to see all the Beckys and Karens on a Beyonce post, as usual.
I’m a woman of color and need to stop reading the comments on a Beyonce post. Always disappointed in people whose opinions I generally enjoy
Man, some of you guys are just unbelievable with your nasty comments. Beyonce looks great, her breasts look fab. Who cares if they arrive late, you don’t know what held them up, it might not even have been their fault. It’s an awards show, not court. If I had a drink line, I’d plug it too. I’d sure wouldn’t stand up in heels if I didn’t have to and for the record, I know maybe 2 to 3 Beyonce songs. But I just had to chime in cause some of you are ridiculous with your criticism.
Anyone notice Jay-Z always poses with his head back in recent photos? What is that?
Beyonce looks very pretty here and I love her boobs. The dress is ok, she is wearing the dress so that’s something
I have never been a serious beyonce fan but I do think she has had the ability to select for the most part very very good people to work with and for her and is smart enough to listen. This is admirable and learning how to delegate and pay attention is an admirable thing and is where many artists seem to falter.
Yeah, her team is top notch and she doesn’t act out.
All of the people on this thread questioning Bey’s intelligence. Lol. The woman has been in the game since she was a TEENAGER. She has cultivated icon status in our culture. She may not be the most articulate in interviews but that is not the litmus teat for intelligence. Beyonce is talented and a smart businesswoman.
I’m sorry but she has whole PR team. Kardashians also are “icons”, Kylie is a billionaire. Are they talented? Hell, Trump is a president. Is he smart?
Way to go comparing Beyonce to the Kar-Jenners and Trump…..your true colors are showing.
so on point. don’t apologize.
This! She is pushing 40! And yes, been in the game since her teen years. Crediting others for her work, her artistry is just the standard misogynist narrative. Like any great artist -you cant fake that level. That level and duration of consistency is due to Beyonce herself.
There are several interviews wherein Beyonce does go into depth as far as the roots of her creativity. She is naturally, deeply creative. It is called smart (and often “genius”) how Madonna controls, reinvents and TMs her image but with Beyonce oh, no, that’s due to everyone else. Thats not her, she is a puppet. Nice try but NOPE. Beyonce is the typical control freak artist and she has more vision in her little toe than most in their whole body.
Formation, Apeshit….that stuff is some of her best . This downplaying and reducing is done to almost all women artists but especially Black women artists and it just depresses and frustrates me to no end. But I already know Beyonces still going to be bringing it hard into her old age, proving (almost) everyone wrong by then.
I clearly remember watching her on Oprah in 2000 (around then) I had never seen her before and thought she was stunning. Oprah proceeds to tell her not to talk about her personal life to the media. That it’s smarter to keep you private life unwraps. And I think Beyonce listened to her and behaves like that. I think she’s privately ladylike.
I stand with valiantly varnished!
Eh, being late happens. Sucks, but it does. They waited to sit, so it’s not like they strutted in and stopped everything to take a seat. After everything that goes into an evening like this, it’s not like you can call it off halfway. Probably didn’t stand because of that dress, too.
Lol celebrities are a trip, though. Can you imagine riding up with booze bottles at hand and just chilling like that? The life.
Joker was amazing!!! Why are you like this?!!!!!
beyonce looks beautiful and graceful