I went into a spiral over the weekend when Bernie Sanders won the Nevada caucus with a healthy majority, and Nate Silver’s analysis was basically “the nomination is Sanders’ to lose.” All I’ll say on that point is that ONLY three states have voted, and two of those states were caucuses. Please get out and vote in your primaries. It’s extremely important. On one side, there’s a 78-year-old man who just had a heart attack, refuses to release his medical records, is getting help from Russia, and has some of the worst, most toxic supporters in the country. On the other side, there’s literally ANYBODY else. I’m voting for Liz Warren in the Virginia primary.
If – and perhaps when – Bernie Sanders gets the nomination, there will be a lot of talk about what it means for down-ticket races. In 2018, Democrats won back the House and Nancy Pelosi became the Speaker once again. Throughout the Trump years, Pelosi is one of the few people in the world who has shown, time and time again, that she knows how to get under Trump’s skin. She knows how to play him and make him look foolish. But according to many vocal Sanders supporters, Pelosi needs to go. In their political analysis, all we need to do is oust Pelosi and…? Susan Sarandon is one of those people:
We’re not looking to keep Pelosi because there’s a progressive running against her who supports Medicare for All and the Green New Deal among other things. Check out @ShahidForChange at https://t.co/g293QvlKFB and vote by March 3rd. https://t.co/6G8MWfUzIP
— Susan Sarandon (@SusanSarandon) February 23, 2020
I… am old enough to know better. Susan Sarandon is old enough to know better. Bernie Sanders is old enough to know better. These kinds of all-or-nothing, my-way-or-the-highway purity tests serve no purpose other than shrinking the Democratic base and shrinking the vote. Plus, if the official line from the Sanders campaign is that “Pelosi needs to go,” that’s just plain insulting to Pelosi’s very real record as a liberal/progressive champion AND a savvy realpolitk operator.
Besides all that, Susan Sarandon is an a–hole. I think less of Sanders because he appears on stage with a nutjob who claimed that Hillary Clinton would be worse for the country than Trump.
Photos courtesy of Getty.
This is getting old quick. The Sanders camp really need to rein in their supporters or else they’ll turn off a large segment of the voting population (undecided, independents, moderate Democrats) and truly ensure a Trump re-elect. But perhaps, that’s why Russia is helping out to ensure a Sanders vs. Trump election knowing both will turn off huge segments of the voting population and critical voters will once again sit out the election.
Rein. The word you want is rein — rein in their supporters, i.e. to limit or control them. The word you used means to rule as a monarch.
Do you mean reign?
huckle, the quote is “rein x in” – like the reins of a horse.
That is EXACTLY WHY Russia is pushing/meddling for Bernie. THIS IS WHAT THEY WANT! They WANT divisiveness amongst Dems, ensuring the voters will just stay home, ensuring a #TangerineTwitler win.
I responded to a tweet in my line saying if Bernie got the nom, she would “leave pres. slot blank and vote down”, and encouraged others to do that, too. When I responded that this is *exactly* what Russia wants to happen, how we need to support WHATEVER Dem candidate gets the nom… OMG you would not believe the filthy vitriol that I got back! People like that are Putin’s dream voters.
Abso-fkg-lutely.
100%. They helped Bernie in 2016 too, or at least used him to hurt Clinton. A large number of proBernie and proJill Stein posts/groups/tweets were bots. Voter depression is a very useful tool.
Sarandon just enrages me. Ugh.
Me too. But hey, now he has Marianne Williamson’s endorsement. Nothing is logical anymore.
Yep. They need someone palatable for the I’s, GOP defectors and moderate Dem vote. Bernie is horrible and plus I really think he’ll drop dead within the 4 years if he wins. I heard rumblings that he’d selected Wailin Palin lite – Tulsy for VP. Really do we need two years of idiot?
Exactly. I spoke to a friend who voted Trump in 2016. She hates the guy now and wants to vote for Biden. She’s a registered Democrat. However, she told me this weekend she’ll vote for 45 again if Sanders get the nominee. I lost it on her. I don’t like Sanders, but I’m voting Blue no matter what.
Friend has no idea I almost dropped her as a friend after she (and her whole Italian immigrant family) voted for the Orange Menace in 2016. Trump was an unknown moron then, he’s not now. We know he’s dangerous, corrupt and a malignant narcsassist. I just can’t with some people, and Sarandon is one of them.
I’m glad my Republican friends are Never Trumpers and not only won’t vote for him, they’ll still vote only for a Democrat. They’re not keen on a number of the candidates but acknowledge anyone is better.
Bernard’s campaign is (once again. like they did to Hilary) a vote supression operation. They’re doing exactly what the Kremlin wishes they would: alienate democrat voters and independents.
It’s a circus. All of it. Who’s the bigger act? Whoever can illustrate better insanity gets the nod. Thanks Americans. You have no f@cking brain.
It really is. This is what decades of apathy and obliviousness has wrought. And Sarandon can go F herself.
Ugh…This woman is such an ass…his supporters make it really difficult to hear his side of things
I can’t w/her. Her “Trump is better than Clinton” smacked of privileged white woman who is rich & her life doesn’t really change no matter who is president. What about people who don’t have that privilege?
As for Pelosi? She is out there fighting to keep the fraud in The Oval in check. Did anyone remember Sanders big stand against Trump’s criminal behavior during the impeachment hearing? Of course you don’t because he was asleep or running for office. A BS nomination hands Trump another term. It also hurts down ballot as BS is all about BS & no one else. Don’t buy the snake oil he is selling. Go out & vote for who you truly think is the right candidate & hopefully someone other than BS will rise to the top.
BS isn’t a democrat & I know democrats who said they will not vote for him. They won’t vote Trump either but this is what is so scary
That worked in 2016. Voter depression. Keep Democrats home rather than vote for HRC. Because she and trump were ‘the same’. And it worked with enough people who did that or voted Jill Stein or for Mickey Mouse on a write in.
And, yes, get out and vote in the primaries and for whoever the candidate is in the general even if you have to suck it up. Even if trump’s policies don’t hurt you directly (though I think they do everyone on some level). In 2016 my hubby voted for HRC not just because she was the candidate but also because trump was. He’s a cis, heterosexual white man in the military with guaranteed healthcare and salary. His retirement was solid between his pension and IRAs. He’d be just fine under trump. His vote wouldn’t be suppressed either. But he knew that trump was an existential threat to the US, even if the degree wasn’t apparent then. If you have the privilege and comfort you need to especially come out against him. He’s for Warren in the primary (loved her for years) but whoever the nominee is in November. Our kids went HRC even though they were Bernie in the primary. Our youngest is 18 in May and all fired up. There is zero room for complacency.
I can’t stand this person.
Sarandon is white privilege trash.
Yes she is.
Because she gets to hope for this “revolution” while she is insanely comfortable and safe. Nothing is ever going to touch her. That to me, is the stankiest most selfish thing.
No woman should have voted for anyone other than Clinton last time, no one. If women would band together, we could move this world forward. But we have Sarandons banding with the boys.
Her Pelosi and Clinton “are worse” shtick is white privilege at its finest. I was really hoping she would have gone away after 2016.
Let’s see…Pelosi got us ACA and impeached Trump. Sanders and his ilk put Trump in the WH and have crippled the DNC with their “no corporate funding bs”. I know who I’m backing.
It is illegal for corporations to give money to political committees. Sanders has had no impact on DNC fundraising.
@ MAC have you heard of this little thing called a Super PAC, ruled on by Supreme Court. In 2010 Corporations can and have absolutely donated large amounts of money to political campaigns.
Sanders will absolutely not get my vote in the primaries but I will vote blue no matter who.
Susan is being typical Susan a out of touch millionaires. She and Bernie with their multiple homes are so for the people they make me want to barf.
@onemoretime That is not how Super PACs work. They are independent entities that can spend money to influence elections, but they cannot give directly to candidates or parties, nor can they coordinate with campaigns or parties. The coordination part is poorly enforced, but it is against the law.
Nonsense, Mac
It is this type of Sanders supporter Taht will ensure Cheeto wins again. They are all counting on it. Get out and vote my American celebitches! You can turn the tide
SS’s comment tells us everything about her & Sanders and the Bros. That they are such egomaniacs they have no idea what a powerful and successful politician Pelosi is. It’s like they have no clue how gov works. The main reason I don’t think Bernie belongs in the race is his piss poor lifetime record of gov service.
Exactly. She (and they) make me so spitting angry
Is Susan Sarandon Russian?????? Asking for a friend. XO
His a**hole supporters is one of many reasons why I don’t want Sanders to win the nomination. I’ll vote for him if he wins, but I’m not going to be happy about it.
Ditto, Greenbunny. But I am afraid we’re hosed if he gets the nomination. This really sucks.
For everyone who is voting in primaries or caucuses, the Washington Post has this quiz where it asks you a series of questions to seek out your position, then tells you which candidates best align to your ideologies. While a lot of times we vote with our hearts or our fears, it’s important to be objective about what we believe so we can make a rational decision. The link is https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/policy-2020/quiz-which-candidate-agrees-with-me/
I was surprised by my result, which said Mike Bloomberg and I agree on the most issues. Unfortunately they didn’t have a question about whether I would vote for a known sexual harasser… I’m glad Bernie and I didn’t align well because I don’t care for his supporters, as evidenced by BernieBros or SS.
Thank you for the link. My results are Bloomberg/Biden, too, but I’m voting for Warren.
Thank you, Ali. At this point even political quizzes should be suspect.
I will be voting for Warren too. My results said Bloomberg/Biden! Lol
I took that quiz in 2004, IIRC, and my match was Al Sharpton. Today it’s Warren, 15/20.
Based on that, i agree with Klobuchar the most. Huh. But that was me answering more practically than ideally. Voting for Warren.
Mine showed Amy aligns most with me, too. I’d LOVE a Liz/Amy ticket!
Thank you for that! I got Warren. Yay! She already had my vote. Nice to know I align with her with some issues that I hadn’t researched yet, like trade and gun control.
Sanders came in second-to-last for me. Another yay!! I knew I didn’t like him.
Wow, Warren number 1 by a lot (She already had my vote after Kamala dropped out)… Sanders DEAD LAST. That kinda surprised me, I thought I aligned with him more ideologically but just didn’t like (some of) his supporters.
I took the quiz and realized for me almost every question I had a “yeah sure would be nice” answer and a “this is actually attainable in a partisan congress and considering things cost money” answer. I think people overestimate how much change a president can enact…without breaking the law of course. Voting for a super left candidate doesn’t mean that jack sh*t of his plans would ever make it past Congress. It’s so ridiculously naïve to think that.
I was feeling really good about the upcoming election until Sanders became the front runner. It’s super early and I’m hopeful that things change. One of my former closest friends is a Bernie Bro and he’s lost so many friends over his asshole behavior yet remains delusional and continues trying to mansplain and talk down to everyone all of the time. Bernie is basically a left leaning Trump and they have the exact same appeal; a large portion of his supporters are a basket of deplorables too, they just have liberal views. There isn’t all that much difference. He will also be 79 years old in November. So we’re looking at one term for a guy who claims he can uproot the entire system. Realistically that means he will be a lame duck president who gets nothing done. No thank you. This is why I think we should consider breaking away from a two-party system. I’ll be terribly disappointed if we end up with a Sanders vs Trump election in 2020.
I don’t trust polls anymore. These are the same polls that told us Hillary couldn’t be defeated and yet here we are.
We need someone who can rebuild the govt after Anus mouth destroyed it. Bernie doesn’t have the fortitude for that kind of hard work. Plus I’m afraid he’ll install extreme leftist toadies in the departments – which is another kind of train wreck.
Well she’s getting dragged to hell and back on Twitter for this and she probably doesn’t care. I cannot stand Bernie and his “more progressive than thou” minions. It gets harder and harder each day to steel myself to vote for him if he’s the nominee.
I’ll have to start drinking about 8:00am on Election Day to do so.
I need a drink or 10 NOW.
There is nothing inevitable about Sanders winning the nomination. He won two states with almost no Black voter. Once Black people are allowed to vote in actual primaries, rather that crude process known as a caucus, he’s going to be singing a different tune.
For all the talk about the DNC favoring HRC over him, the real reason while BS lost the primaries by almost 4 million votes is that he didn’t perform well with African American, especially the older ones, and it’s not looking that much better this time around.
And there is some stuff that are not talked about on mainstream (white media) but that Black folks are definitely talking about and that might end up costing Sanders a few votes. Case on point: that well-know scammer Shaun King, aka Martin Luther Cream, aka Thurgood Partial, etc.
He might be popular with some high-profile celebrities, but regular Black people, and especially black women, have had his number for years. Someone who chose Shaun King as a surrogate is not worthy of trust.
Dang straight, Sarah. It’s super early days, and I shade Bernie’s campaign for acting like it’s a done deal.
It’s like being in the first two minutes of the first quarter of a game and a team already declaring victory. It’s still incredibly early.
I was out of town this weekend but my friends, who I’ve canvassed and phone banked with in the past, went out canvassing for Warren. I plan to do the same. If Bernie does get the nom we have no choice but to vote for him, but it will be nice to say we did everything we could for our first choice.
An adorable little girl rang my doorbell for Warren yesterday. I told her I liked her tiara and her glasses; she told me she loved my Valentine’s Day decorations. We both agreed it is time for a girl president.
I know it’s childish to call people names, but I laugh my head off with the Shaun King nicknames. “Talcom X” is another one.
He’s the prototype “Bernie Bro”, hypocritical, misogynistic, dismissive and intellectually dishonest.
Finding new nicknames for Shaun King and Donald Trump is Black Twitter at its very best, and that’s saying something! My favorite for Trump are: Parmesan Putin, Papaya Batista, Sweet Potato Saddam and Carrot Cake Chavez.
UGH. I followed Shaun King for YEARS… right up until he started in with his Bernie conspiracy theories this cycle – I unfollowed him on all platforms – I just do not have the energy for that nonsense.
This! All of this thank you!
Alllll of this. He stands no chance. If the Dems voting in the caucuses know what’s right for them, they will go with literally any other option than Sanders.
Wow I almost forgot about Shaun King after I blocked him in Twitter. That is a blast from the past! He was so annoying!
Nancy Pelosi is doing a great job despite all the sh*t she has to deal with from all sides.
She gave me one of my favorite lines during her press conference smackdown of James Rosen and praying for the president. ‘Understand that.’ I wish it’d become a hashtag. ‘Trump is a treasonous asshole. #understandthat.’
Nancy is a treasure.
Omg, I love her!
It is still very early in the game. Ignore polls and noise, as you vote for YOUR preferred primary candidate.
Apparently Susan Sarandon isn’t getting enough attention in her life.
And she and those pushing this same nonsense proved they are clueless. Pelosi doesn’t put something like the Green New Deal to a floor vote unless it is guaranteed to pass. Saves time, money, and allows people to work on it in committee until it will pass. Historically, she will be recognized as one of the greatest Speakers ever. They would trade that clout for nothing. Steve Scalise would eat Buttar for lunch; he fears Pelosi.
As for Medicare 4 All. Medicare is one of the most successful and popular programs ever in the US but it does have a number of serious problems. First up is the solvency of the program itself for the current population. That can be fixed but Republicans have not been interested in doing so. Second , and the issue that hits its beneficiaries directly, is the cost-sharing. Part A has premiums if you didn’t work enough quarters. Part B has premiums for all beneficiaries. On top of the premiums are the deductibles, $1,400+ for a hospital stay for Part A. $198 a year for Part B (doctor’s services, ER). And then, there are the co-pays. Medicare Part B is a straight indemnity plan. For most services, Medicare pays 80% of the allowable fee and the Patient pays 20%. For some services, it only pays 70%. And some states allow balance billing so if the doctor charges more than the Medicare allowable, the patient pays the 20% of the Medicare allowable AND the remaining balance. This all adds up very quickly, which is why so many need a supplemental plan. And Medicare currently does not cover pediatric services. Of course, none of that hurts the likes of Susan Sarandon. Personally, I’m better off on my HMO than I would be on Medicare 4 All. We do need universal healthcare. I support single payer and this would be a start but Sanders is glossing over the nitty gritty and people die in the nitty gritty.
@Lightpurple,
Thank you for putting the facts out there about M4A. It’s a pipe dream that has no choice of passing into law and no means to fund it. Instead of campaigning on universal healthcare for all with the option for private insurance, Sanders wants to wipe away what heath insurance is available.
My folks have Medicare and it’s shitty. I do not want to give up my private insurance. I really don’t care.
You’re welcome.
Elizabeth Warren is reeleased veeeeeery detailed plans on how to pay for Medicare for all, without raising middle class taxes (which sanders can’t do). It’s not a pipe dream but it will take someone experienced and realistic, like her!
I really hoped it would be a woman this time around. I cannot with Bernie Bros. They are so toxic. Of course I will “fall in line” and vote for Sanders, because the country is at stake, but I won’t be happy about it.
I blocked Mark Ruffalo this weekend after his comment about “centrists” and after watching the Berners attack Ava, I’m completely done with them. Bernie attracts the same type of people Trump does and that’s a huge red flag for me.
I didn’t block him but told him to stop dismissing my yet to be cast vote and that his tone wasn’t helping
I blocked him months ago. I’ve decided I don’t have time to waste on bro crap.
I did block John Cusack months ago.
Not Ruffalo I thought he was one of the good ones.
Mark is one of the good guys. Bernie and some of his bro are trash but his policies are not. As a woc it’s heartbreaking to see people saying they won’t vote for him in case he’s the nominee. We’re not supposed to vote for likability ffs. Vote for policies and work at the community level at all times people.
Dee, what work has Bernard done at the community level in the last 40 years exactly? Can you provide examples?
Honestly I agree with all the above. And support Pelosi in what she’s done. I kept hoping Trump and Pence would be thrown out and she’d replace them.
HOWEVER, I have to say this tone won’t help. We can disagree without name calling and slandering.
If not, it will simply be Trump2 if Sanders wins and we don’t tone it down.
We can do better than the Trump supporters whose tone is off-putting. And we can do better than the Bernie Bros that troll people that disagree with them.
Susan seriously hates strong intelligent women, doesn’t she?
Sanders team are putting this out because they will not win the nomination. They want to claim that DNC cheated them just like the B Bros did in 2016.
I still think it will be Biden with Harris as VP and Bloomberg money machine behind them in November.
Warren has my vote.
My Bernie Stan friend is posting all about how Russia isn’t interfering in the election, it’s all the big bad DNC and now we have two sides of people ignoring facts. Awesome, our country is full of idiots who think truth doesn’t matter anymore.
I’ve wondered where that stupid, self important b was hanging out. I thought she might be hiding, embarrassed by her 2016 shenanigans, but noooooo, here she is again. She lives in a bubble. There’s a reason Putin’s helping BS-there’s so much oppo research on him that 11/3/20 will be a disaster all around. It’s obvious that a large segment of the American electorate is ignorant enough to vote for a demented, rage monster, grifting rapist despite all the damage he’s done. And the Bernie bros and broettes are as cultist as the deplorables, a large percentage will not commit to voting for anyone but their god.
Even Jill Stein got out of her Russian vault to prop Bernie… They’re in the shadows, waiting for instructions.
The thing is you don’t even have to like Pelosi…but you can recognize that a surrogate attacking her like this at this particular moment in time is just f*cked up as hell. That’s my issue…same with Sanders. Trump commits some horrendous crime yet again, and Bernie puts out a tweet railing against “establishment” Republicans and Democrats as if both parties are the same. Also, I’m really tired of his campaign doing a me against us sort of thing….like they spin it as if everyone opposed to him is an “establishment” democrat (as he said those were the ones trying to stop him) or a “centrist.”
You have to have an ego to run for president, but one hopes that ego is based on a record of accomplishment and tempered with humility and a sense of what one can realistically achieve in the context of a balanced government. Bernie puts himself first (as he did in 2016), is nearly as good at riling people up as Trump, is stubborn as hell and nearly vindictive, and is losing his physical capacity. I’m afraid that the religious influence on American politics, with its messianic roots, continues to influence voters who are more desperate than ever. All I can do is hope the “seasoned politician” aspect of Sanders influences some of his choices going ahead, but he’s already threatening to disrupt the convention and lord knows who he’ll pick for VP, should he win. Chaos is what the Russians want, indeed.
I really can’t stand this woman and many of Bernie’s loudest supporters DO NOT make me want to vote for him at all. And I mean in November if he gets the nom. Like I will, but I’m not going to be happy about it at all. I can’t wait till more states (including mine FL) get to start voting in their primaries. They’re acting like this man already won.
In FL too. We vote 2 weeks after Super Tuesday. I hope the southern states decimate Bernie.
Regarding Sanders…
Let me see him win an open primary in an urban city….I TRULY want to see that…
And if he somehow does win…get ready for 4 more years of Trump!
Signed: THE DEM BASE!
If we had elected Gore, we could have had a green new deal in the early 2000’s. But the far left thought he was too corporate and went with Ralph Nader.
Now, we have a chance to elect someone who could build on the ACA, but the far left wants to throw it away for someone who will probably lose the House for us. Bernie doesn’t stand a chance to pass any healthcare reform, let alone MFA.
Oh shut up Susan. Why does she think anyone cares what she wants? Why does she think she speaks for anyone but her white privileged self?
I’m voting Blue No Matter Who, even if it’s Bernie, but personally I want Warren and she has my primary vote. And Nancy Pelosi has been incredibly effective in the 18 months or so she’s been back at Speaker. This infighting is enough to make me scream.
I voted for Warren in a swing state and I voted for the strongest, most money-raising Democrats in every single down-ballot slot.
I’m always amused at people outside the district coming with the “oust Pelosi” stuff. I’ve lived in her district for most of my adult life, and no one has even come close. I don’t know if this progressive opponent has any real traction, but this cycle may not be best time to try it after she has shown she is one of the only people who can stand up to Trump and consistently unnerve him. Also, why would we give up having the most powerful representative in the country with a proven track record at this very critical point?
Exactly. Her institutional knowledge is unfathomable. Meanwhile, her opponent would have to learn where the men’s rooms are, easier than learning where the women’s rooms are, but still. It would be a huge loss for the district.
Interesting how she and Mark Ruffalo are pushing them Bernie train and everyone coming together but are awfully silent as Ava Duvernay is getting death threats for simply saying she’s undecided.
I wasn’t exactly a fan of HRC but I voted for her because I wanted to be able to sleep at night. If Bernie is the nominee I will begrudgingly vote for him. Are these Bernie bros planning to do the same if their guy is not the nominee??
I just saw the stuff with Ava Duvarnay. Sanders stans do love to insult and harass black women, don’t they?
Yes they do knowing that no one will come to our defense.
You don’t win over undecided voters by threatening them.
They booed and screamed at John Lewis after he dared to question Bernie’s actions during the Civil Rights Movement. Somebody asked Lewis if he recalled seeing Sanders at any marches or at any other point during the movement (since the Bernie supporters basically claimed that he was a champion of civil rights). Lewis just responded that he never met Sanders while organizing or marching and didn’t ever recall hearing about him from anybody else either. And for that, they attacked him viciously.
I just early voted for Super Tuesday. For Elizabeth Warren. Yes, Susan Sarandon, I vote FOR my vagina, and all my other body parts that would need a really good supplemental policy to wrap around Medicare because I can’t afford 20% of every doctor’s bill when a visit to my liver specialist alone costs nearly a thousand dollars. And I don’t need or want your revolution. People die in revolutions.
I’m sure the trump campaign has this tucked away, ready to deploy at the crucial moment.
https://twitter.com/amandionair/status/1231738392603451392?s=21
STFU Susan! Plus I’m not voting for any clown working a manbun. What a pretentious moron. The problem with these newbies is that they think the only way to achieve these things (while laudable) is by taxing the middle class to death. I doubt they can make a dent with the rich but the ones they hurt are the people in the middle. If you want proof, crack open the SF Chronicle. I don’t need this played out on the national level. We already pay enough taxes for everything (nickel and dimed in SF here) and they’re just piling on more with nothing to show (pee and poop is real here. Plus the needles).
I was never a big fan of Nancy but she won me over the last few years. She’s not afraid of speaking up to the GOP trolls. She handled the impeachment masterfully. We need someone with experience. Not man bun over there.
Dear Susan,
Please go somewhere and sit the F down and STFU.
Sincerely,
Everybody
People voting for Sanders expecting a miraculous revolution are going to get a real nasty surprise if he gets in. We’ve learned nothing from the Obama years. Nobody hands change to you. We have to fight for it from the bottom up.
Also, f*ck these people who denigrate Pelosi’s career. She isn’t perfect, but she’s the reason we have the ACA. Don’t forget that legislation STARTED as Medicare for all. It had to be changed because it couldn’t get pushed through that way.
SS’s tweet reads We’re not looking blah blah. Who is the we??
Is she referring to herself and BS? I have a Twitter news feed with mostly Federal Prosecutor commentators and such like. I see big support for Pelosi myself. I do not know what other people see.
I agree with Kaiser’s assessment of BS personally. I have already voted early here in CA for Warren, knowing that she holds fourth place in the polls. But she is my choice. I am prepared that unless the polls change a lot that the Democrat Nominee will be BS. I have accepted that. I am also going to be Voting Blue regardless of who the Nominee. I feel it is my duty. It is either Blue or Trump.
This is just my opinion.
Shit like this is what makes me really distrust Bernie. Okay, he can’t shut down anonymous internet trolls. But he CAN call up someone like Susan Sarandon and say “your comments are not helpful, we need to promote unity as part of our agenda, please don’t appear at my events or speak out on my behalf if you can’t do that”.
Bernie may well win the nomination, but having his surrogates out there speaking like this is NOT going to create enough unity to beat Trump. Now that he seems to be the “front-runner” he really needs to start working harder on the inclusivity line.
Maybe he did call her after this, and she didn’t listen. We don’t know.
Not all if us are Bernie bros. Lots of diversity in his supporters.
Lots of bullies too.
Blue no matter who.
THIS
I’m contemplating logging out of Twitter. I was just on a thread that was accusing “moderates” (aka anyone that isn’t supporting Bernie) of being the ones responsible for holding minorities back. I’m as liberal as they come but I also now the limitations and what is possible to pass through for legislation. That doesn’t make me moderate that makes me REALISTIC.
And yes. Those could be bots. I get that.
Susan Sarandon is a toxic person. And I would really like her to just sit the eff down and shut her mouth permanently. That is all.
The Coronavirus epidemic has reached Italy, and she couldn’t attend the Milan Fashion Week as her usual. She has lots of free time to do damage.
I like Pelosi more than Sanders (I wish she was running instead of him because I like watching her put the screws to Trump and how he rages even though he knows he can’t get rid of her, heh, checks and balances). As for Susan S, she can just go away. She voted poorly (promoted Jill Stein in 2016 even though the woman didn’t have a chance in hell in winning because we are a two party system) and I don’t want to hear about her regrets.
We are fighting for our lives here. If Bernie wants to win he needs to tell these people to just vote for him. That’s all, no school yard fights between the dems…just vote for whomever gets the dem nod. The idea is to get rid of the orange menace.
Yeah it’s crazy how he barely has any delegates compared to how many you actually need and people are like ‘yep, that’s a wrap’. He needs over a 1000 more. Literally it is still wide open. I dread sanders winning if for no other reason than I think there’s a good chance he’ll lose. Fox will bleat on about socialism like we’ll be Venezuela and not Denmark. They used this tactic successfully in 2009-10 with the ACA and the ‘government takeover’ of a huge chunk of the economy. And there was an article written after the election by Kurt Eichenwald that said the huge amount of oppo research the republicans had that didn’t come to light because he wasn’t the candidate. The ‘oh Bernie definitely would’ve beat trump’ is an unproven narrative. He saw some of it and it included video of Bernie at Central American rallies in the 80s where they (not him) were saying ‘death to the gringos’. Doesn’t matter he didn’t say it. That’ll be on a 24/7 loop on fox.
If he’s the candidate I’ll vote for him because pretty much anyone is better than this dumpster fire of a president who has not one redeeming quality (not even the ‘loves dogs’ or ‘is a good husband and father’ lines trotted out). But boy I hope he’s not.
She is worse than before as if she has a say in who should be retained. These same Bernie or bust along with that Comney email crap is part of the huge problem that resulted in #3 being elected.
#3 refers to the impeachment status he wants erased…uggh
I am keeping my head out of all the election updates until like… October… I find them too depressing (not living in USA)… but now I find myself a bit lost!
I’d thought Bernie had a lot more support generally. Ah well. I’ll wait till the dust settles. It is far too exhausting to keep up with every update when it isn’t even my country’s election.
I’ve never actually met a Bernie Bro. I hear a lot about them, and I do know several Bernie supporters, but they’re mostly really nice. I live in Vermont and never go on Twitter tho. Much better like this
It amazes me that the commenters at this site are so pro-Warren and yet so anti-Sanders. Their policies are so similar. Yes, many of Sanders’ supporters are jerks, but don’t focus on that. Look at the policies.
Sarandon is an idiot, no question. But if she wants to plug some no-name running against Pelosi, then go for it. Maybe it’ll push Pelosi to actually develop a climate change policy that isn’t “oh well, too late”. She is an admirable woman but really needs to sharpen up in regards to climate change. Sometimes having an opposition further left can benefit this.
Sanders is better than Bloomberg, that’s for sure. Look at his policies. So many policies are only promoted by Warren and Sanders. Yes, they both have flaws, but they have a real chance of making your country better. It’s odd to see you all falling for the media fearmongering, because usually Celebitchy is smarter than that.
I used to think that Susan Sarandon was cool a long time ago. But, this b.s. she is pulling once again, with Bernie Sanders has me furious. She showed her ass at the last convention. Bernie Sanders is bound and determined to screw up another election. He is definitely part of the reason we have an orange gorilla in the White House. His ego has convinced him that he can strong arm the GOP into doing whatever he wants. And those Bernie bots believe all the smoke he blows up their ass. If Sanders is back in, let’s convince Hillary to run again. Although, she never would, because she has seen the bullshit she had to go through. Can someone write a newspaper page to Sarandon and Sanders to tell them that we want to win this time?
It’s clear that people like Sarandon is in that white, elite HW privileged demographic. They don’t like strong women who stand up to men. F K Sarandon.