I haven’t really talked about the still-alleged “prank call” between Russian “pranksters” and Prince Harry since the story broke. The Russians were apparently posing as Greta Thunberg and they recorded Harry (or “Harry”) talking at length about his family, politics and the environment. I only listened to a few minutes and the voice sounded like Harry, but I’m not great at spotting a lot of those deepfakes. Various reporters have sworn up and down that their “palace sources” have confirmed that it really was Harry on the phone and those same reporters are gleefully gloating about how Harry got duped and how obviously this is going to happen a million more times because Harry was so, so wrong to choose Meghan and his child over THEM. The whole thing – including the “exclusive” to the Sun – has the vibe of a tabloid set-up rather than a Russian scheme, especially since the story fits so well into the anti-Sussex narrative many reporters have already played into for two years. So, there’s more.
On Wednesday the Sun reported that two Russian tricksters pretending to be Greta Thunberg and her father called Harry and got him to open up about him about some of the issues that have kept him in the news. According to Buckingham Palace aides, the affair is proof that Harry might really need the support of royal staff. “It perhaps highlights that there is a lot of work that goes on behind the scenes, never publicly spoken about, to ensure things run smoothly and are hitch-free,” one said to the Telegraph. “As they move forward, they do need to invest in proper resources and have the right management, rather than adopting an approach more familiar in show business. Perhaps this incident will highlight that. Let’s hope it’s a wake-up call.”
Another aide who spoke to the newspaper was even harsher. “You can be as accessible, relaxed and as informal as the media portrays you, but as soon as you act like that, mistakes can happen,” the source said. The Telegraph also reported that Harry was forced to change his phone number and email as a result of the prank, something that is familiar to anyone who has ever been phished.
As Meghan and Harry were negotiating their exit from the royal family, plenty of palace aides turned their firepower on the couple and the way they’ve chosen to communicate with the press. Yet based on the glowing reaction to their final visit to the U.K. as working royals, a case could be made that their P.R. strategy is already working. But if Harry keeps fumbling the things us commoners figured out a long time ago, the aides will certainly look prophetic as time goes on.
“It perhaps highlights that there is a lot of work that goes on behind the scenes, never publicly spoken about, to ensure things run smoothly and are hitch-free,” said one unnamed staffer who often says this to himself whenever he’s on the receiving end of one of Prince William’s screaming tantrums. From the quotes I saw of Harry’s interview – if it was him – he didn’t say anything bad, he was just indiscreet and silly to believe that he was actually speaking to Greta. Well, lesson learned. Why does it have to be a week-long story about how Harry will TOTALLY regret ever abandoning these poor royal reporters and these poor royal staffers? Oh, right.
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Wasn’t there an article that it was the former head of the Royal Foundation that forwarded the e-mail to Harry. It’s people trusting staff that seems to get people in trouble. Just like with the DNC Podesta questioned the phishing e-mail, but then a staff member said it was okay.
Exactly. It was someone that worked for KP and the royal foundation that forwarded the email. He took it at face value. I would have too if I were him. He didn’t say anything bad and this story isn’t doing the damage the tabloids want it to. People feel sorry for him and really liked what he said. He didn’t divulge any personal details. What he said is stuff we already knew.
I personally think KP set him up since this came from the Sun.
Between Brexit and coronavirus, you would think royal aides have more important matters to deal with.
I listened to Palace Confidential the other day and Sarah Vine stated in what seemed like an exaggerated way that not only had Harry stayed in the royal fold (of course) this wouldn’t have happened because his handlers (who are way more experienced at their jobs and at life than he is) would have vetted the call and it wouldn’t have even gotten to him. She basically stated that he’s just not smart enough to know this could happen and that he has been too sheltered in life as well to even perceive that something like this could happen. She failed to state that this has also happened to QEII btw.
My thing is this: other than the he’s too stupid to live without the protection of his family, which was really demeaning, I understood her point. First off, anybody could be pranked/punked. However, he IS used to having staff and layers of protection around him to vet these things. As he adjusts downward, he/they are likely in for a bumpy and rough ride on all dimensions. His family & the Sarah Vines of the world expect slow-top Harry to fail. But I have an honest question. Once, Harry truly gets acclimated or even semi used to living in the “real world”—that wilderness beyond a royal household and/or aristocratic circles—can he truly go back? His new experiences will shape him into such a different man. If he doesn’t neatly fit the mold now, how in the world (once he’s been in the “real world”) do they expect him/long for him to crawl back, kiss the ring, and go back to his old servile position?
It was “staff” who supposedly set up the call and forwarded Harry’s contact information to “Greta” and her “dad”. So who are the stupid ones? Either this was done deliberately to embarrass Harry or it’s the pot calling the kettle, well you know, in terms of who is incompetent. So nice of these “royal experts” to gloss over that point.
MisIAm. I’m with you. If it is Harry on tape, then lesson learned and he will learn it. A front line command leader doesn’t survive the most dangerous battleground on earth at the time, by not learning and adapting. If it is him, then I think the key question is: who set him up? Someone on the inside of the royal system aided and abetted this. I also find it interesting that The Sun just happened to be the TABLOID that got the tape and then sat on the story until after Harry’s last official appearance, I see ‘some royal pinkies’ all over this. Either KP or the BP courtiers area behind this betrayal in actively working with an organization Harry is suing. (Hummm, doesn’t Wooten work for The Sun? Isn’t Wooten’s life partner still the Director of Communications for the Cambridge’s?). The Sun knows hacking and hackers very well. They were part of the first Levinson inquiry re hacking and Harry has joined the Levinson 2 class action suit against The Sun et al for hacking. I so hope Harry’s legal team are able to bring legal discovery to this episode.
It just makes him more genuine and relatable. Any way you spin this they left with a bang and are not looking back.
I love the sh%t outta the fact H&M are livin’ their best life with zero f*cks given for any of these blowmongers.
The more the press covers this, the more it seems like “someone” set up him (not the Russians) in order to show how inept Harry is without the courtiers and the palace protecting him.
I don’t think its working for anyone except those who already thought that about Harry.
Agree, and I think it’s KP courtiers who gloating because they believe their negative PR shenanigans have been a success. I think VF has been a KP mouthpiece for quite some time with Katie Nlcholl as their go-to RR (refuse to call her a journalist). Now, the author (Erln Vanderho0f) of this article and a bitchy one last week about the Sussexes “reimagined press strategy” must have fallen in step as well. Despite VF’s history with KP, I think the latter article was written because of lack of access (VF was not invited to the DoS final solo engagement at BP).
I’m so sad. I’ve loved Vanity Fair for decades but I started to notice an anti- M&H slant after their South Pacific tour. It appears to me that Katie Nicholl just sits down and makes up excrement to lob at H&M and VF is cheapened by their association with her. No more money and no more clicks for VF. It’s time for the public and for celebrities who support fair treatment for H&M to turn their backs on Vanity Fair.
Other people have gotten pranked by the same people and well Harry didn’t say anything crazy. All they want is an opportunity to stick it to Harry for leaving. That is it.
A whole industry that exists to support a long-standing institution should never sound like a 20 something year olds broken heart after one too many Long Island Iced Teas penning drunken emails to an unrequited hearts desire.
I don’t buy a word of what they’re saying. None of it.
Being ensconced in the tender embrace of the Queen’s/BP’s good graces didn’t stop Andrew from giving his I-don’t-sweat-and-was-eating-pizza Jeffrey Epstein “car crash” interview.
So yeah. Let’s talk endlessly about what Prince Harry *might* have said, none of which was embarrassing. Let’s ignore what Andrew, who has every Royal resource at his fingertips, said.
Excellent point.
Super Excellent Point!
Kapok, Bunny! Hadn’t thought of that. Surely the Andrew interview was a huge fail on the part of the royal courtiers. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I don’t think that Harry said anything inappropriate for the most part. But as Kaiser said he was indiscreet. I think that this is a lesson learnt about what subjects he should talk about and to whom.
If this was indeed a setup…wow…would William and Kate and the Coutiers go to such lengths?
That would say so much about this family? The Markles wouldn’t have anything on them at all.
How would William and Kate possibly have set up Russian hackers to do this? The same ones who pranked elton john and some prime ministers? Come on now, be reasonable.
You may hate them, but how would ever even manage the logistics of this setup?
Harry made a really silly mistake, it happens. It doesn’t always have to be someone else’s fault.
That it happened makes him look indiscreet and naive, but the idea that KP is behind this is not that far-fetched. Some have speculated that Woott0n (Dim editor), who reportedly has done this to others, and his KP contact(s) are behind this prank.
Supposedly the former communication director is the one who forwarded Harry’s information. Then she claimed it wasn’t her job to vet calls and confirm authenticity. Hello? She is also refusing to comment. So I think this is looking more and more like a set up.
I haven’t seen that confirmed or even suggested anywhere reputable (that it was his KP staff who allowed him to talk to fake Greta).
Anyway what he said isnt too bad mostly! The chunga changa thing was embarrassing, and I’m surprised he didnt condemn his uncle Andrew given he thought he was speaking in a private context. I also surprised for someone so wary of friends leaking etc, that he let his guard down to talk to a 16 year old girl that he cant know very well.
It’s bad judgement, but ultimately from what we have heard he didnt say anything that bad! It’s a bit embarrassing, but no more than that!
I think he still had a guard up. He wasn’t going to tell Greta that he thinks his uncle is pedophile. He doesn’t know her on a personal level. The subject of the email said it was a meeting and he mostly talked about climate change and the media. He wasn’t pouring his heart out to her at all.
I think we need to remember that it is not Sussex staff at KP. Cambridge staff works out of KP; Sussex staff worked out of BP.
With all the leaks, I have a hard time believing he’d just take KP staff’s word for it, you know? It’s a very strange situation for sure.
I don’t think that Harry said anything inappropriate for the most part. But as Kaiser said he was indiscreet. I think that this is a lesson learnt about what subjects he should talk about and to whom.
If this was indeed a setup…wow…would William and Kate and the Coutiers go to such lengths?
That would say so much about this family. The Markles wouldn’t have anything on them at all.
Yeah, because the palace and courtiers have done such a great job with Andrew, from his “friendship “ with Epstein to his shady financial dealings, they have shown us all how well they do their job.
Harry will learn from this, move forward and thrive!
Exactly Harla. Look how Epstein was apparently at a palace function after his initial arrest. And the Queen was duped into thinking she was speaking to the Canadian PM a few years ago. Not to mention Charles and Diana’s private phone calls or Anne’s love letters that were leaked. Shows that the royal infrastructure isn’t the perfect protection palace aides and the press are trying to suggest it is.
If it was Harry sure it is a lesson learned but his relatives can sympathise as similar has happened to them!
Oh bullshit, even queen got pranked in ’90s were she was discussing the important politics and her celebration for Halloween to the fake prime minister. If these dumb people in royal aides didn’t protect protect the queen from the prank, then harry is no exception. They are trying to make a story out of nonstory because they are none on Sussex . The tides are changing that William is allowing his kid’s story get into the paper every week. That’s what happens when you make the deal with the devil. In summer we might get more pap stroll from Cambridge kids to make up Sussex absences.
Hahahaha! This story barely picked up enough traction to even be an embarrassment for Harry (if that even is him on the audio tape). The US media picked up on the story for only a day or two. Then the whole world got distracted by the COVID-19 pandemic, and now outside of the petty RR, nobody cares about this non-story! Karma is once again beautifully at work!!
I work in healthcare, we’re a little busy right now to give a damn about what Harry said to “Greta”.
I saw the headline last week and said “eh” to begin with.
RR were going on about, this would never have happened if they were still in UK, they have forgotten that, it happened to a whole Queen; she also fell victim to a hoaxer, Kate as well. Sophie, Fergie, the list is long, where was their protection, under the palace? The Sun Newspaper set the whole thing up, why are they paying the hoaxers, surely, it’s illegal. KP, must have passed the number on to Dan Wooten. Thank God, Harry did not deliver the embarrasment the sun envisaged. We love him, even more. The prank call happened in January, but they are publishing it, to stop us from discussing, Kate’s disgraceful, unroyal behaviour in The Abbey. Sorry Duchess, it’s part of Hstory now.
I don’t understand why these courtiers are acting like the royals can’t tie their shoes without them when they were the ones who had a hand in the Andrew-Epstein blow up which resulted in Andrew no longer being a working royal. Something which the Queen didn’t want.
So perhaps the courtiers aren’t the smart ones.
I’m sure that KP wants the conversation to be about Harry’s phone call rather than douche-bag William’s coronavirus comments. Good luck with that one. Talk about someone needing a handler.
IKR 🤯🤯🤯
The poor royal aides must be so angry and pressed that this story isn’t turn to be the big story/scandal that they hoped.
BTW the Queen and Princess Diana were phone pranks victims and they had royal staff so stay mad royal staff and bye!
The same royal staff that let Andrew do that car crash interview over Epstein? Or the royal staff that failed to advise FFK William that making a joke about coronavirus while on tour is a bad look? These clowns need to be pink slipped because the BRF needs to stop relying on them. Dollar bet KP put this out because they are afraid of a rival court in Canada. The farewell tour has the Lambridges spooked and this story proves it.
I believe the prank was a setup by The Sun and KP aides. It’s weird how the aides are ignoring that Harry was still under royal protection when this hoax happened. The royal courtiers are gloating that Harry was duped by royal courtiers.
They were hoping he would say something scandalous or incriminating in another attempt to ruin him. But he didn’t say anything bad so they have to go with the ‘he was humiliated line’. If anything he came across really well.
Of course they’re still floating, it’s all they have after being dumped by the Sussex’s.
Losers.
Harry also had royal staff when his phone was hacked for several years. The royal staff is awful, no question. This is why the press are trying to make it out that this would never happen if he stayed. He was still a senior member when this happened. The staff is incompetent.
Harry is still a senior member until March 31. Something even the leaky courtiers seem to keep forgetting.
EXACTLY!
But it was a staffer from KP/ the Royal Foundation that passed them his contact info. These people are clowns.
@ST has it correct about the former staff of the Royal Foundation that forwarded the email to Prince Harry. The comments from the present staff at BP are invalid since it was the absence of Prince Harry’s staff ,due to the events in January 2020, prevented the necessary vetting.
It seems that every day that goes be, with every leak and comment from ‘sources’ and courtiers – Prince Harry has made the best available decision for him and his family. I hope the royal sources and courtierscontinue to be complicit with the tabloid harassers and expose their real motives for their past actions.
It demonstrates why Harry needs security in terms of physical, financial and emotional. I hope his father is actually paying attention and would do what is necessary to protect his son.
Become part of the solution Prince Charles, the rot is in the family. Until recently it attacked Harry , then Harry and Meghan, then Harry , Meghan and Archie . If it seems like there are advantages to this behaviour, it will continue.
Who will be the next prey?
In terms of the tabloid, there goes another golden egg. Diana’s son is a survivor. Now he needs to thrive.
The phone call demonstrates that this is a traditional family. Prince Harry is a straight up dude.
The courtiers and the royal reports are acting’s like jilted ex who are lashing out that their ex’s has moved on . This so called Royal reporters have a unhealthy obsession with the royal family they don’t see them as human beings they see them especially Meghan and Harry as human objects to attack . They really are trying really hard to make Harry looked bad when in reality the courtiers are the ones who look stupid and unprofessional and petty. This just a another sad attempt to deflect on the bad press that Kate and William we’re getting over their actions at the church services their trying really hard to make this into a scandal so people won’t keep talking about Kate rude behavior.
Someone on Twitter was giving a question of if this is a pre-approved thing aimed at forcing the palace’s hand “we’ll talk if you dont stop backstabbing us” kind of thing! The whole was harmless and harry’s speech was relaxed even when greta was clearly fake so..
These reports seem like damage control. As if courtiers want to play it down to seem like harry’s losing something🤦♀️
I doubt it was even him.
Omg!!!! You are so brilliantly witty! I laughed so hard at this: “It perhaps highlights that there is a lot of work that goes on behind the scenes, never publicly spoken about, to ensure things run smoothly and are hitch-free,” said one unnamed staffer who often says this to himself whenever he’s on the receiving end of one of Prince William’s screaming tantrums.
I think the people behind this are disappointed all their effort didn’t do much of anything. Nobody really cares at the end of the day. His fans still love him his haters still hate him.
Gloating over a dumb prank like this is like gloating over sending him Too Much Tuna.
“…. plenty of palace aides turned their firepower on the couple and the way they’ve chosen to communicate with the press. Yet based on the glowing reaction to their final visit to the U.K. as working royals, a case could be made that their P.R. strategy is already working.” LOL.
These RR’s are so sour that after all the mud-slinging and character assassination, the Sussexes farewell tour was an overwhelming success. They were hoping that they would come back to the UK with their heads down, that crowds would boo them and the opposite happened. Everyone welcomed them back with open arms, from the excited school kids, to Commonwealth scholars, to military veterans, to their charities and of course they glowed, they dressed to impress and they made an impact and delivered on every event – even their pictures were memorable and went viral…so sour grapes from the RR’s and Palace hacks.
As for this phone prank, who knows if it’s even true, but if it was, Harry said nothing bad to incriminate himself and in the end it was a non-story. Also, since when does having Royal support staff protect you from leaks – the Queen herself was fooled before, heck. her physical security couldn’t even prevent a man from climbing into her bedroom – Gimme a freaking break!
Gloating over this like 13 year olds. Geez.
If this was a prank, the people who pulled it look like the asses. Harry didn’t say anything crazy or abnormal. This backfired if it was a true prank. People have got to grow up.
It was a KP staffer who forwarded the original contact email. This story just proves that the BRF and their staff and courtiers CANNOT be trusted AT ALL. Harry and Meghan were too right to get out of there when they did, and I hope they hire Gavin deBecker for their security, they’re gonna need someone really good looking out for their safety.