I wrote the (abridged) history of Taylor Swift and Kanye West yesterday, as I do every so often just so everyone can be on the same page. This is a ten-year-plus gossip story, and who knew that Kanye’s drunk bullsh-t at the 2009 VMAs would lead to a nearly eleven-year (off and on) feud. So, as we discussed, the longer video of Taylor and Kanye West’s 2016 phone call came out. Team Swift claimed the call proved that Taylor did not know about the lyrics. Team Kimye claimed that the call proves what Kanye claimed, that he sought Taylor’s permission to name-check her in a song, she gave it and had general knowledge of what the lyrics would be.
After the call came out late Friday/early Saturday, some of Taylor’s fans got on Tumblr, Instagram and Twitter to declare that “Kim Kardashian Is Over,” and they flooded Kim’s social media pages with snake emojis. Taylor spent the weekend “liking” Tumblr posts which proclaimed her the victor in this feud with Kanye and Kim. Kim “liked” one tweet about the drama this weekend, the one below.
The video showed nothing new. We all knew that. I’m so confused right now pic.twitter.com/NO0b92Qvpo
— kim (@kimkwestlegion) March 21, 2020
So clearly, there was more to say, right? *deep sigh* Actually, before I get into the new stuff, I’d just like to point out the fallacy of believing that KIM was the one who leaked the full video. Kim moved on from Taylor Swift in 2016. Kim was caught off guard by this weekend’s shenanigans. You really can’t argue that KIM leaked the full video, which led to three days full of Snake Fam harassment on Kim’s social media. Which group was prepared and in total lock-step to make the same (false) argument that the video exonerated their fave? I’m just saying. Speaking of, Taylor posted this last night on her Instagram Stories:
Taylor Swift via Instagram Story.#KimKardashianIsOverParty pic.twitter.com/1l3hgW4Oaw
— SWIFTIES™ (@SwiftiesIndia13) March 24, 2020
I…. honestly can’t. I know fully that tons of people are buying it, so I’ll hold my tongue. Thankfully, I don’t have to say a bunch of sh-t because Kim Kardashian responded to Taylor. Here is what Kim tweeted. I’m not embedding these because it would take up too much space, but you can see them here, and yes, she had the balls to tag Taylor’s account, which is funny because Taylor never has the balls to directly @ someone she’s beefing with.
@taylorswift13 has chosen to reignite an old exchange – that at this point in time feels very self-serving given the suffering millions of real victims are facing right now. I didn’t feel the need to comment a few days ago, and I’m actually really embarrassed and mortified to be doing it right now, but because she continues to speak on it, I feel I’m left without a choice but to respond because she is actually lying.
To be clear, the only issue I ever had around the situation was that Taylor lied through her publicist who stated that “Kanye never called to ask for permission…” They clearly spoke so I let you all see that. Nobody ever denied the word “bitch” was used without her permission. At the time when they spoke the song had not been fully written yet, but as everyone can see in the video, she manipulated the truth of their actual conversation in her statement when her team said she “declined and cautioned him about releasing a song with such a strong misogynistic message.”
The lie was never about the word bitch, It was always whether there was a call or not and the tone of the conversation. I never edited the footage (another lie) – I only posted a few clips on Snapchat to make my point and the full video that recently leaked doesn’t change the narrative.
To add, Kanye as an artist has every right to document his musical journey and process, just like she recently did through her documentary. Kanye has documented the making of all of his albums for his personal archive, however has never released any of it for public consumption & the call between the two of them would have remained private or would have gone in the trash had she not lied & forced me to defend him.
This will be the last time I speak on this because honestly, nobody cares. Sorry to bore you all with this. I know you are all dealing with more serious and important matters.
[From Kim Kardashian’s Twitter]
I mean… those law studies are paying off, huh? *sips tea*
Photos courtesy of WENN, Backgrid and Avalon Red.
I hate to say it, but I actually do think Kim comes out of this looking the most evolved. She definitely said what she had to say on this years ago and moved on. Taylor seems like one of those people who can’t forgive someone getting the best of her. Who knows why too, because none of this ruined her career. She is as popular as she’s ever been.
Ican’t stand Kanye as a person, but still think that Kim is absolutely right here. I think the lyrics were gross, he put Taylor on the spot, but attempted to do the right thing. and Taylor to completely lied in her original statement and has twisted it numerous times to try to seem like she was only mad about the word bitch. which she probably was mad about the word bitch! but she definitely didn’t caution him not to release such a misogynistic song. she told him she thought it was funny and cool.
Taylor is pretty vengeful and passes off her revenge in the most passive aggressive ways whilst playing the victim. I think her getting mad at the word ‘bitch’ at the time was her only loop hole to worm her way out of it. At the Grammys when she won album of the year, she said got on stage and said ‘don’t let anyone take credit for YOUR FAME’ insinuating that was the line she was offended by. When Kanye debut the song at that huge album listening party a hot second later all her model friends and c-list minions were trashing him online. It all seemed very pre-meditated. Not to mention the fact that Kanye released this song BELIEVING that Taylor was cool with it. Even if Taylor suddenly changed her mind and got offended by the final product, its not Kanye fault when he believed she was ok with it. I think the fact her career never really bounced back after it has got to hurt. If she thinks this will revert her career back to 2017, I think she’ll be disappointed.
Honestly, at this point, they all come off poorly. If Kim truly didn’t care she wouldn’t have said anything, but she wanted the attention that will inevitably come from releasing that statement.
Exactly! These are two 40 year olds and a 30 year old. They all need to grow up.
Agreed. And they’re all being so passive aggressive in how they’re whining about “there are more important things” but STILL giving all their thoughts on it.
Damn, Kim. Well done. And well put!
Kim vs. Taylor is like woman vs. girl
It’s been 10 years. Can we move on?
Kanye’s lyrics were offensive and there’s no way Taylor agreed to the final product. She sounds really uncomfortable on the phone call and like she’s afraid to just say no. Kanye even picked up on her feelings and asked her why she sounded sad. I’m not a Taylor stan (way too old) but I tend to believe her more. None of these people should be weaponizing their fans, though.
Believe her on what?? This video prices AGAIN that Taylor lies when she she said TWICE that she never spoke to Kanye and that she cautioned him about those lyrics. She may have been uncomfortable, no one is saying she enjoyed the conversation. The point is Taylor lied, tried to become a victim, and honestly kept the white girl/black villain narrative running. No one is team Kanye, so I don’t know why Taylor felt the need to reignite this.
Kim actually sounded great in this. I never thought I’d say that.
Taylor’s 2016 statement wasn’t that they have not spoken, it was that she didn’t approve of certain lyrics and that the audio was edited to make it sound like she did.
I can’t be arsed to listen to a long conversation between two people I don’t particularly like, so I won’t comment if this new full audio proves or disproves their 2016 claims.
Kanye called Taylor, gave her the low down and she was very agreeable. She was aware that it wasn’t the final product and told him to go with whatever line is best. If she didn’t like the final product, it’s not Kanye fault when he released it believing she was ok with it. It’s not even the phone conversation that was controversial, it was what happened after and her reaction to the song. She got on stage at the Grammys and basically condemned him. She revealed herself to be quite scheming.
I’m so confused. Are we STILL debating whether or not Kanye had permission from Taylor to mention her in that song of his from years ago?
I think Kim comes off looking like the winner here, but that’s probably because I can sense her exasperation that this is STILL going on and I’m with her on that.
Kim’s response has given me the tea to nourish my soul today. I’m not even a fan of hers but that response was pretty perfect and showed Taylor to be an asanine liar.
Now, can we all agree to move on? Yes? Yes.
Team Kim.
Wait she really said that her fans have gone through HELL because of this silly drama? Gurl. New York City hospital right now are going through hell. Single parents losing their jobs right now are going through hell. People losing loved ones who die in quarantine are going through hell.
This is gross and dumb. Taylor needs to stop.
This….Thank you for saying this. Her statement shows how out of touch she is with the reality most people are facing right now. Claiming her fans went through hell is ridiculous especially with the state of the world right now. Did no one check her statement before she posted it?
@Polyanna – yes all of this. And…How exactly did her fans go through hell? They had to take time off of work or school to post snake emojis on twitter? How exactly did this actually affect their lives?
But that’s the thing. Taylor “went through hell” because Kimye’s fans were weaponized against her… How many times has Taylor weaponized her fans against other people? She’s still trying to do it to Kimye. That just seems so dumb to me.. not to mention vindictive…
Honestly… I have no dogs in this fight but vindictiveness is so ugly
Kim has moved on ages ago.
The robbery in Paris was a trauma, and she has changed since than.
I don’t mean she is a totally different person, but she has started studying, she has started to use her celebrity in a different way.
And Taylor? MOVE ON.
Kim is supporting trump so she is worse for wear.
Is she? Or is she using his power to get her job done? There’s a difference there I feel.
kim wants you to think she has changed, that is part of her game. but she is just as shallow and manipulative as ever.
THIS
I think all this shows that Kim hasn’t moved on very far.
Quarantine is making everyone so bored. This tea is cold. The situation is way more nuanced then either side will admit. Lies were told, the public was misled.
I want to know who leaked it. That’s the only thing slightly interesting about this story. If it comes out who leaked the tape then will have some fun. I agree I don’t think it was Kim. Team Snake Fam. Is having a hard time believing that but this all seems very pro Taylor. All the articles are very very pro Taylor. Kim seems more over it and unsure why this is still a thing.
Who leaked it is the main question here. And only one team had control of that video.
Yeah I wonder that too. Kim doesn’t seem surprised by the leak or even questioning how it got out there. KUWTK starts it’s new season this week, this family needed some pr !
Yep ‘i dont care’ but my team leaked and im responding but again i dont care. This is so obvious
Good point…. Kim released this then acted holier than thou cos she is over it? Snakey.
Honestly, Kimye and Taylor are probably friends with a deal to “beef” because the whole Taylor/Kanye thing brought them all sooo much publicity.
As someone else said above, this tea is cold.
NOBODY, at least in my opinion is looking good in this mess.
Frankly, Kim’s nearly blind defence of Kanye is very disturbing to me, I love my husband very much, he is the most important person in my life, but, if he behaved even 10% like Kanye, we would have to have a very, very serious discussion and I’m not talking about this incident only, the whole TRUMP thing is scary,
the slavery comments, Kanye bragging about his greatness…..
Kim can play : the I’m so evolved and into saving the unjustly imprisoned becoming a lawyer card all she wants, but I’m not buying it.
Kim is well known liar that mostly lives a very empty, self centred, greed and money obsessed lifestyle, so she has no credibility in my eyes.
Taylor Swift needs to let it go already, grow up, move on and do something worthwhile for others, especially in these uncertain times.
All involved should stop their pettiness and focus on something else.
I wish Kim to just stop with those absolutely hideous outfits, money truly can’t by style or class.
this rant is giving me life!
Why even release the full conversations? Especially at a time like now?? I don’t get it at all… it’s all so juvenile, which is why I think it was Taylor.
But how could Taylor get hold of the tape? It was recorded by Kanye.
If it was Taylor who leaked it now, Kim and Kanye still have a traitor in their midst.
This is true. I didn’t think about it like that….
Does the snake fam really want another frigging decade of anti-Kanye songs? I’m so over them and was really hoping Lover would be the last of them but oh boy, Ms. Snake Queen is so going to drag this out even longer. I expect there to be some kind of vindication anthem in the next few years.
Team Kim on this feud. It was over with 4 years ago. Taylor is the one keeping this going. Kanye moved onto bigger and more disgusting MAGA pastures, he isn’t thinking about Taylor and he hasn’t been for years! And Tay totally did lie about exactly what Kim is accusing her of lying about. This convoluted story Taylor came up with back then is still BS and this video doesn’t prove anything.
I just can’t with Taylor. This is embarrassing. I am not a Kim fan or anything, I don’t watch that family’s shows, etc, but I find myself cheering for Kim in this whole thing. Someone needs to watch Frozen.
Taylor refuses to grow the hell up.
And I’m dying that her fans have been through hell over Taylor getting caught lying.
Kim and Kanye aren’t good people, don’t get me wrong and they don’t “win”. But they have the edge here because they openly admit what they are.
TayTay has no sense of introspection.
Who leaked this video again? Of course the two of them are going to respond to it. Did anyone expect differently? It’s so tired and stupid at this point. Kim’s original tweet was good – “this isn’t new, wtf?” (ETA: I just realized the tweet was a Kim fan page, not Kim.) Just leave it at that. “This is stupid, please move on, people are dying, this is irrelevant and old.” But no. We will never see this from either of them.
Lmao at my face reading Kim’s statement. Subdued approval. Taking a sip myself.
The whole world is living through a pandemic and financial collapse and this is what these assclowns are consumed with?
Taylor REALLY needs to let this go. None of them are ever going to agree on this. It’s stupid and old news!
Once again, shit backfires on Taylor huh? I’m no Kim stan, but yeah she wins this round. Taylor looks even pettier than usual.
Kim Kardashian may sell vapid but she ain’t vapid.
I have zero interest in watching any video or reading more about this ridiculous story. Just want to say that Kim and Kanye have moved on with four kids and a stab at adulthood while Taylor is still waiting to be proclaimed Princess of Camelot.
this all deserves a million facepalm emojis. the shallowness, pettiness and narcissism is completely out of control.
My issue with Kardashian, is that she supported her husband making a nude model of Swift WITHOUT her permission for a crappy video. Sorry, but in my mind, that’s absolutely disgusting.
I’m relatively neutral on the rest. But that part always pissed me off.
IMO she puts up with a lot of that kind of stuff from him. I don’t really get it.
And according to this phone call – she WANTED the lyrics to be that Taylor OWED him sex. She’s disgusting.
This.
While taylor is clearly flawed i truly think kim first outed taylor in this situation years ago because she was pissed someone was more famous than her and had actual talent. I truly believe that was a huge factor here
Kim’s audio clips back in the day were heavily edited and obviously only brief chopped parts of a much longer conversation. I said at the time that Kim should have just posted the whole conversation online if she was so sure that her clip represented the whole conversation.
Kim was older and should have known better than to do any of this, it was so obviously just promotion for her show. She knew how her husband was clueless about how other people are really feeling and the many opportunities for big misunderstandings on both sides.
Taylor did sound pressured into saying things she wasn’t really comfortable with. This happens a lot with young women especially. And Taylor did not lie. I read what she said at the time and it wasn’t a lie. Kim was spinning it as a lie. This was all so junior high, and Kim was in her thirties. They needed a mediator, not what Kim was doing (she was promoting her view in interviews every chance she got while promoting the new season). People here bought into it because a lot of folks don’t like Taylor Swift.
Kim’s mother had warned against making a big deal about this and basically suggested Kim just invite Taylor over for a chat over tea and cookies. Demon Mother was right. The whole thing was just as juvenile as the original incident when drunken Kanye interfered on stage with Taylor receiving an award years before. Taylor made a mistake saying anything at all about it on stage, but she was understandably genuinely hurt. Kanye was doing a lot of hurtful things in his mania back then, and Kim was going along with it.
I don’t even know Taylor’s music, but it all seemed so pointless and vicious to me at the time. Kim is a pathological liar and all of a sudden we were supposed to believe she was a beacon of truth?
Kim is currently promoting a new season of KUWTK and a new show about her advocacy work.
I dislike the wests and the ks with all my might. Of course kkw would milk this, how could she not?
So ridiculous.
No dog in this fight but can always be counted on to not be able to control herself. And make everything about her. This is coming from someone who absolutely loathes that family.
I don’t see how Kim is coming out of this looking good. Even if she didn’t personally leak the video, someone on team Kardashian/Jenner/West did. Taylor doesn’t have the video. So she wasn’t the one to drudge this old drama up.
I don’t hate Kim or anything but there’s no way she is the bigger person here. No one looks good. People lied on both sides, and are still discussing it during a pandemic. At least Taylor used that attention to bring awareness to causes that could use donations right now.
I personally don’t care who is right or wrong, but out of curiosity, have we ever heard Kanye ask to take credit for her fame?
Yes, and Taylor says something to the effect of that it’s very tongue In cheek and it’s his opinion and view, and she thinks it’s funny. She told him she’s going to laugh at the media when they hear it because she was in on it with him the whole time.
Her side of the conversation is so damning, I can’t believe her fans are still trying to claim she’s right.
Taylor’s statement is embarrassing. Her fans suffered?? Get over yourself. The new video proves nothing.
There are real people with real problems all over America right now and those two idiots are worried about something that happened years ago? Taylor, you’re rich, successful, in love and popular. Move the F on.
People can multitask when it comes to worrying.
To say anyone can’t be worried or upset about other things in their life at this time is like saying we all should stop eating because elsewhere in the world, people are hungry.
wake up
I’m surprised no one else has brought this up:
Why is Kim being targeted with snake emojis and answering for a feud between Kanye and Taylor?
Because women constantly have to answer for men’s transgressions.